December 28, 2025 • 46 mins
In this episode of the car show, Dane shares his expertise on used car inspections and the importance of getting a mechanic's opinion before making a purchase. He shares a personal story about a customer who bought a certified pre-owned Lexus with low miles, only to discover hidden damage. He emphasizes the need to inspect a used vehicle thoroughly, especially when buying from out-of-state. He also discusses the pros and cons of buying an extended factory warranty and warns against after-market warranties. Dane takes calls from listeners, answering questions on oil consumption, rust protection, and brake fluid maintenance.
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Food down, Good afternoon, Good afternoon, and welcome to the car.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
So that's a new that's a new one for me.
So I uh didn't know yeap, I didn't know when
to when my intro was so uh but hey listen,
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It's uh, I've been. It's good to be back. I
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want to encourage anybody to call as far as whatever
car question you may have or car you know, maintenance
issue or you know again buying a new or use one.
I was actually I was watching somebody I follow on
social media and talking about cars and whatnot, and this guy,
(02:42):
uh man, he was talking about used car inspections. And
I'll tell you what. It's something that I feel like
in the industry most people don't think about or talk about.
But man, if you are in the market to buy
a used vehicle. And let me tell you with the
price of these cars, nowaday, if you're buying a used vehicle, man,
(03:03):
you really really need to get it inspected by your mechanic,
a mechanic or by me anybody that needs to put
somebody needs to look at this vehicle. Okay. These cars
have a lot of you know, components that can break
easily and can be very very expensive. Okay. Now, if
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you're like, well, Dan, you know, I'm looking at a
car and it's coming from Florida or Georgia or whatever,
you know, you got to think about find a shop
down there near that place where it's being, where it's
coming from, and get it inspected. To find a reputable
shop and wherever it's coming from and get it inspected. Now,
we at Donovan's, we typically will It depends on the
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you know, depends on the age. It depends on the mileage,
of course, right, So if you've got a car that's
twenty years old and two hundred thousand miles, we're going
to typically charge you more simply because we're gonna we're
gonna have to spend a lot more time postal car
that's one year old and it's thirteen thousand miles on it, right,
you need to be And just because it's a newer
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vehicle with less miles does not mean it's not a
headache or doesn't mean that it's got problems, right, because
a lot of times, you know, these cars can get wrecked,
and these cars can get damaged, and you know, you
could be buying somebody else's problems, right, classic, classic example.
I had a young lady that was buying a vehicle
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that was a pre owned, certified, pre owned, certified right
lexus right, and so it's good it was certified up
to one hundred thousand miles. Well, guess what I found
out that we she brought it in regardless they had
low miles. I think they wanted forty or fifty thousand
dollars for this vehicle, and it was low miles. I
wanted to haven't inspected. Anyways, we looked at it and
(04:54):
go and I did inspect it, and sure enough, I
noticed that a lot of the components in the front end,
uh weren't factor they weren't normal. There you could see
there was a shift in some of the material the
bumper and stuff like that. So come to find out
it was wrecked at the dealership. It was wrecked, the
whole front end. I think I think she's I think
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it was like eleven thousand dollars worth a damage to
the front end of this vehicle. And they're selling this
thing as a pre owned, certified vehicle and it wasn't.
And uh, they did all kinds of damage. It wasn't
originally it had been wrecked. And a lot of us
sometimes will you know, we get we get complacent, right,
we say, oh, well, the car facts showed no accident report.
Well it doesn't. That doesn't necessarily mean it wasn't an accident. Okay,
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you know, point in case my vehicle. You know, if
I wreck my vehicle, right, and or you wreck your
vehicle and you've got a buddy that's gonna fix it
for you on the side and doesn't run everything through
car facts, it's not going to be on there. So
you got to be you know, make sure, especially in
today's vehicles, if you're buying a used vehicle, it's imperative
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and it's important that you get it inspected.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
I feel like we don't talk about this enough.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
I feel like it's something that like, you know, because
we get I get the phone call all the time,
do you guys look at cars before you before I
buy use one, absolutely, And whether you bring it to
Donoinans or you bring it to your mechanic or if
you're you know, listening from you know, really anywhere. Anytime
you're buying a used vehicle, you need to get it
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inspected by a reputable mechanic. The other thing that I
want to talk about real quick too, is if you're
buying a new vehicle, Okay, there is an option to
buy like an extended factory warranty. Okay, that is okay.
If you're buying a new vehicle and you haven't your
they have an option for an extended factory warranty. If
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you have the ability to in the in the money
to do it, buy it. Okay. It will save you
money down the road, especially with these new cars. If
you're buying a used vehicle with a after market warranty,
listen to this factory warranty or after market warranty. If
you're buying a used vehicle with a after market warranty,
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do not buy it. Okay, do not buy it now.
You can buy the car, but do not buy the
after market warranty. They are not it's it's, in my opinion, criminal,
what they do to people. They leave you to believe that, hey,
if anything breaks on this car, you're going to be covered.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
And I've seen it time and time again.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
They run people through the ringers on these things, and
you don't get your money back. So again, if you're
buying a new vehicle and they have an availability, if
you have the availability by a factory warranty, go ahead,
and if you can afford it, go ahead and do it, okay,
because it's a factory warranty. But if you're buying a
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used vehicle again and it's an after market warranty, I
don't care who it is. I don't care what the
name of the company is. I don't care what they
promise you. Do not buy it. Take that money that
they want to charge you. Let's just say that after
market warranties, I don't know, five thousand dollars. Take that
money and put it and invest it. Okay. I can
assure you you'll get way more for your money if
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you invest it than buy the after market warranty. Because
everybody is duped to think that this is going to
take care of you, and everything that breaks on this
car is going to be fixed. And I'm telling you
they don't. I see it time and time again and again.
In my opinion, it's criminal what they charge, what they
do to people. And we don't even we don't even
work with any of those companies because they spend, they
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waste so much time and money and your money really
and uh, they're a headaches. So please, if you're buying
a used vehicle, do not buy an after market warranty. So,
all right, again, taking your phone calls and we'll call
five one, three five hundred. Let's go to the phones.
We've got Jim. Hey, Jim, welcome to the car show.
I can help, Thank you.
Speaker 6 (09:00):
I finally got a hold of you. I'm going to
I'm want to talk to you about the oil uses,
probably high miless vehicles. Yeah, my wife is a twenty
eleven Toyota row Out four, wonderful car. I've got one
hundred and eighty seven thousand miles on it, and uh,
they recommend five W twenty oil. So and I babies
(09:22):
todath it's like now and then it starts to use
it the court. My wife goes it used to she
she knows how to check your own tars and all that,
and and she says it's court long.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Again.
Speaker 6 (09:34):
I look at that. Well, so I got a I
bout a quart of five W thirty and put in
it and it slows it down and still use the oil.
So I put a clod last TP and and then
don't use oil anymore. It don't the rings are wore out.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
What what is it?
Speaker 1 (09:51):
What did you put in it?
Speaker 6 (09:54):
STP?
Speaker 2 (09:58):
So you put the STP? What what was it? Just?
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Was it an additive or was it actual STP oil?
Speaker 6 (10:06):
Or it's STP.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
It's thickened oil.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Okay, all right, okay.
Speaker 6 (10:11):
He used to be in a can who had a
zip top on it and that now it's in a
planetic a bot. But anyway, it don't use oil anymore.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Really really, huh, I mean, what what's the what what
is the oil that the STP? What's the what is
the discussy of it?
Speaker 6 (10:32):
It's real thick. If you you put a take a
screwdriver the stick in it there and you cannot hold it,
cannot hold that screwdriver with that stuff.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
That's slick. Wow.
Speaker 6 (10:44):
Drag I drag raced all my life and uh, this
one guy used to all the way around the country.
He gets four or five hundred thousand miles out of
it an engine and I and I said, what do
you do? He said, well, every time I changed oil,
he set up put two cans STP in it. Engine
last for a long time. And that's all I have
to say.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Huh, Well, I will look into that.
Speaker 6 (11:07):
Okay, Well, pleasure, thank you. And I'll tell you what.
I administrated those after market warnings for years. They do
everything they can, everything they can. They'll say, well, I
didn't get a copy of this, not me have a
copy of that. And and because they didn't beat me,
you're gonna see ye. Some places won't even mess with them.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
I don't. I don't mess with them there.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
They're night they but they tell people the bumper to
bumper warn that's only a grand new car. But they
tell them that. They think everything's free. I know, but
I'll tell you it was a pleasure is speaking to you,
and I yes.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
All right, thank you. But yeah, we getting a little
bit of feedback there. But yeah, so listen, I'm here
to tell you just like Jim was saying, uh, two
things and this is a great and we talk about
this all the time on the show. Is listen oil
consumption is a very very common problem on most of
these vehicles. And I just had a customer not too
(12:09):
long ago and he goes, hey, I'm going through a
quart of oil every every thousand miles. And we're like, yeah,
well that's pretty common. And you could just see the
look on his face. He's like he just wasn't having it,
and he just was like, there's no way this car's
burning oil. I'm like, man, we do a lot of it.
That's that's the other thing is burning oil. And we
talk about this all the time on the show, but
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I wanted to talk again, you know, I was watching
that gentleman on social media and I just you know,
I wanted to emphasize to you, especially with the cost
of these new these used vehicles, right, they're expensive. Right,
it's the second most expensive, you know, item you're going
to have other than your house. Right, you want to
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make sure you take care of it. So if you're
buying again, if you were when you buy a house,
what do we do We get it inspected by somebody, Right,
same thing. If you're buying of use vehicle, you need
to get it inspected by mechanic to protect you because
again it can be It'll save you a lot of
money and a lot of headache if you get it inspected.
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So a lot of times we don't talk about it,
and I kind of want to emphasize on that today
is it's something that should be done. So all right,
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Let's go back to the phones. So we've got Opie. Hey,
OPI welcome, welcome to the show.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
I can help welcome back.
Speaker 8 (14:32):
And I'm going to tell you right now, enjoy them
young and is while you can, because they grew up
too fast.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
I know, man, I my daughter, I just I just had.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
I just had a grand baby about six weeks ago.
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So well, congratulations.
Speaker 8 (14:44):
My daughter gave me a grand baby, you know. But
you know, two weeks ago I taught her how to drive.
So talking about then pre hit the pre purchase inspections.
My wife's oh seven f two fifty that I bought
eighten years ago.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
Found a really good deal on it. It was a truck out.
Speaker 8 (15:04):
Of Texas, low miles, but it was all the way
up by Cleveland. We drove up there and I called
a Ford dealer, took it over to Ford dealer. They
charged me seventy five bucks. They went over this thing
and and now mind you it's a six to o,
which you know six o's were notorists were popping the
head studs. So the shop that had it, they had
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that in order to change the head studs, you have
to pull the cab and the doghouse off. They did
the headstud bulletproofed. It did everything that Ford should have
done to begin with. Well, I took it over to
this Ford dealer and they looked at it and they
said the radiator's leaking. And they said, that's a twenty
five hundred dollars job to put a radiator in this thing.
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And they said, oh, by the way, the bearings and
the turbot were on their way out. Took it back
to the place where we were buying it from I
and I gave them a report from the Ford dealer
and I said, ya want to fix this or or
the you know, the deal's over with And they said, well,
you know what, we can't sell that if we don't
fix it.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
They fixed it.
Speaker 8 (16:06):
We've still got it for the same price and ad
down the road we went.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Yeah, that you know, and that's a great, great point.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
And I tell my customers this all the time.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
You know, when you're doing when you what how what
you do is when you're looking at a used vehicle
and you get it inspected in your mechanic or whoever
you take it to find something wrong with it, it
gives you the upper hand. It gives you the leverage. Right,
so if they find these problems, right, you can go
back there and say, hey, you go, can you fix
these things?
Speaker 1 (16:36):
I'll buy the truck. Can you fix these things?
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Or can you take it off the price of the truck,
because I'm gonna have to turn around and spend you know,
another you know, five thousand or twenty five hundred dollars
like you said, another twenty five hundred dollars to fix
this radiator. Can you take the price? Can you take
it the price off.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
The car or the truck, or can you fix it?
Speaker 8 (16:52):
Well, they not only replaced the radiator, they also replace
the turbot, which that.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
That was probably another that was probably five five gran
there too.
Speaker 9 (17:02):
Yeah, yeah, so it.
Speaker 8 (17:03):
Worked, I mean, and it wasn't like It wasn't like
I took a scooter's garage, right, and you know, I
mean I took it to the Ford dealer and they
had that thing for three hours, and like I said,
they were charging seventy five bucks, and they gave me
a laundry list of stuff. You know, there was a
few connectors that weren't plugged in from where they had
the cab off of it and all that.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
Stuff, which they fixed some of that and as they.
Speaker 8 (17:24):
Found it, and then you know, they gave me a
laundry list, and you know, they.
Speaker 5 (17:27):
Said, well, yeah, we'll fix it, we'll do the deal.
Come back in a week and pick it up.
Speaker 8 (17:31):
So my wife, my wife and my mom went up
there and.
Speaker 5 (17:33):
Picked it up and brought it back.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
I mean, it's a great example. And again, you know
a lot of people too think that, hey, if you're
buying a car from a used car lot or a
deal even a dealership, you're buying a used car from,
then like, oh, it should be in good mechanical No,
these people are I'm sorry, but they're salesmen.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
They're just their job is the selle.
Speaker 8 (17:57):
There are three people. There are three people that aren't
trust politicians, lawyers, and car salesman.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
I think that the truth and not necessarily in that right, right, right, yeah,
and listen, you take some other calls, man, I appreciate it.
You have a great weekend, you can. Uh So Again,
when you're buying a vehicle used or from a dealership,
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it doesn't really matter because a lot of people are well,
I'm buying it from a dealership, so it should be good.
That does not always mean the case. That's not always
the case. And again, I'm not picking on used car salesmen.
I'm not picking on used car lots. These people their
job is to sell cars. They're not mechanics, right, And
again I'm not picking I'm not saying that they are
trying to deceive you. I'm not saying that that that
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everybody's just dishonest. I'm just saying, if you're buying something,
especially with the cost of today's cars, make sure you
get it inspected. And again, I'm not saying that they're
trying to pull the wool over your eyes and you're
you know, they're just trying to sell you, you know,
you know, a piece of crap. I'm just saying, get
it inspected. Again, their job, they're not mechanics. They don't
look at these cars when they're selling these cars. They
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don't pop the hood, they don't get it up on
the on the lift and take a look at it.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
They don't know what they're looking at.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Right. Their job is just to sell a car. It's
not to find out if there's anything wrong with it.
So again it's imperative. It's important that you get it inspected.
And again, let me reiterate, do not buy an aftermark
a warranty period. So all right, let's go back to
the phones. We've got Jim. Hey, Jim, welcome to the
car show. How can I help? Hi?
Speaker 10 (19:35):
How you doing?
Speaker 2 (19:36):
I'm good?
Speaker 1 (19:37):
How are you good?
Speaker 5 (19:39):
Good?
Speaker 9 (19:39):
Hey?
Speaker 10 (19:40):
I've got a twenty three four Runner that we bought recently,
and I was just wondering as far as buying rush
protection from I turn it down as a dealership. But
like z Bart's been around here forever and so forth,
I know these things, these vehicles today are better protected,
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you know, as they're built from rush and whatnot. But
what's your opinion on the z Barts of the world
out there in terms of added rust protection?
Speaker 5 (20:15):
You know what?
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Great question? Great question? So and listen, I had this
conversation with my brother earlier this week, I said, you know,
we were talking about a car and my truck actually
because my older truck and it's just so rusted. I'm like, well,
you know, we live in the rust belt here, and yeah,
everything that's out there, you know, with the Brian they
put down the salt and everything that we deal with,
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it's something that should we can talk about. Now. I
think with it being a twenty three, how many miles
are on it?
Speaker 10 (20:49):
We bought it with five thousand. I was a demo,
so I want to say it's got seven on it now?
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Okay? All right? And does I think there's some factors
that we need to think about out here? What part
it says you're in alexandera, Kentucky? Yeah, uh huh. And
is this vehicle does it stay? Is it is it
gonna be outside its entire life?
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Or is it garage kept?
Speaker 10 (21:13):
Garage?
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Okay? So I think if a vehicle, if a vehicle
is staying outside its whole life, I think it's something
that you should look into. If it's being garage kept,
I don't think that. And it's been Is this a
daily driver for you? Yes? Okay? The I see a
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lot of cars that come in that have the Z
bar on it there and they're protected or whatnot. I think,
if you're gonna do it, I'm not against it. If
you're gonna do it, I would do it sooner than later.
Here's and here's why. Sometimes when they when once they
spray that stuff. A lot of times too, it just
traps if there's already run. Like if you've got a
car that's ten years old and you want to do it,
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I would not recommend it because all you do is
just trap it. You just trap the water and you
trap it in there, and then in my opinion, you're
not really blocking it, you're justscapsulating it. But then it
continues to continue to russ. So yeah, on the on
the four Runner, though, I would have to have to
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look at it, because the older four Runners and the
older Tundras and the Kuna's man that I tell you
what I've seen, I can't tell you how many of
those cars I've come that have come into my shop
with the frames rotted out on it. I think Toyota,
oh yeah, it's a massive problem, massive problem. And yeah,
(22:40):
you know, and they did honor some of the frames
and replacing some of the frames, but not all of them.
I think that Toyota has gotten away from that. I
would have to because again with it being a twenty three,
i'd have to look at it.
Speaker 11 (22:53):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
I don't think it's a bad thing. But here here,
hear me out on this too. When you when they
do that, you know, they hit all those bold and
everything like that. So if there's in the fuel lines
and brake lines and everything like that. So going down
the road, if you have to remove those bolts, well
you can't get a you know, a socket on it
because the bolt's just covered in that that Z Bart stuff.
(23:14):
So yeah, you know, I'm not against it. I just
if you're gonna drive it and keep it in the garage,
if you're gonna drive it daily, keep it in the garage,
I don't. I wouldn't do it. I'd leave it the
way it was.
Speaker 10 (23:30):
Uh, well, what's the difference of leaving it in the garage.
I mean we're still gonna drive it on the assalted
road and then pull it in the garage versus leaving
it in the driveway.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Yeah. Correct, But here here because what happens is when
it sits outside. Okay, that moisture that's on the blacktop
or on the concrete. That moisture. Obviously, when it evaporates,
it rises, right, so it goes up and it just
collects there. Right. So if it sits in the garage,
obviously the frame or whatnot's gonna drive and whatnot, and yes,
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that water will evaporate, but it's not exposed to the
elements the way it is if it sits outside. You
know what I mean. I mean, I had correct and
I had a gentleman that had a ninety his unfortunately
his parents passed away. It was like a ninety seven
Cadillac and had like thirty thousand miles on it. Right,
this thing sat outside its whole life. It was a
(24:21):
ninety cent. This was I don't know, probably about five
years ago, right, so it was pretty old cars, twenty
years old something like that. And you know, he's like,
I said, man, this thing is an absolute rusted mess.
You need to get rote it. And he's like, well,
it's only got thirty thousand miles on it. I'm like,
I understand that. But it sat outside on the black
top outside its entire life, and it's a rusted mess. Now,
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if you've got a car that's sitting in a garage
for that amount of time, it's not getting that exposure
to the elements of the weather. So it's really that's
really key is keeping a car in a garage. That's
how you're gonna get the longevity out of a vehicle.
So I think with the age of it, and again
(25:03):
I would have to see it to this. I don't
know if Toyota has got away some of these, I
mean they still have a frame. But I just I
wouldn't do it.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Let let's let's put it this way. If I buy
a new vehicle, I'm not gonna do it. I just
I don't like covering all that stuff up because if
there's any type of repair that needs to be done
down the road, you've you've kind of just created another problem.
So yeah, so but I mean, you know, again I'm
(25:35):
not against it, but I just I'm not gonna do
it to my I don't do it to my vehicle.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
So what.
Speaker 10 (25:44):
Do you have an opinion on? You know, they've got
paint protection and different types of that. You know where
they put up.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Y ceramic coding. Yeah, I would do that, yeah, absolutely, Uh,
the ceramic coating, I would do. Uh, even some of
your kind of your local car washers will offer some
type of ceramica. It's not really a ceramic coding like
you need to take it to a professional and have
it done. Now it's pretty pricey, but yes, I mean
(26:13):
as far as the paint goes, I think, especially with
the debris and rocks and salt and everything like that. Yeah,
protect the paint because it can be. Bodywork is very expensive.
But I would do I would recommend that the z
bart I just again, I'm you know, I'm I don't
have a problem with it, but I just wouldn't do
it to my own vehicle. So okay, all right.
Speaker 6 (26:36):
Well that helps a lot. All right, thanks, take care.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
All right, you're welcome to take care. So you know
the thing is too and and I'm going back to
the whole get the car inspected. Right, You look at
these cars and the top, you know, the rest of
the whole body is like, oh man, this car is great,
The inside's perfect. Whatnot? The problem is you get it
up in the air. It's a whole nother story. And
(26:59):
I time and time again, I'll get these cars that
come into our shop to get inspected, get them up
in the air, and they do look great, You get
them up in the air and they're an absolute rusted mess.
And come to find out, if they come from Michigan,
you know, northern Ohio, New York, you know up all
those again, northern states, these things are absolute rusted messes.
(27:23):
They are messes, and it creates a tremendous amount of problems. Right.
So again, if you're going back to buying and used
vehicle and it is out of state, you want the
Southern States, you want Georgia, Florida, Texas, somewhere like that
because it's not exposed to all the elements of the
salt and the brine and everything else they put in
(27:43):
the streets these nowadays up here in the north. So
it's important too. Just because the interior is perfect and
the exterior is perfect and it looks great underneath tells
a whole other story, right, So it's something to think
about when you're buying a used vehicle. So I thought
Jim's questions were great. So and again, if you're if
your car is twenty years old and you're not familiar
(28:06):
with z bar z Bart kind of basically capsuleate capsulizes
and and supposed to prevent the rust from getting any worse. Right,
But what happens though, too, is it also traps the
moisture and the water in there too if it's not
done perfectly. Well. Okay, now, I've seen some jobs that
are done well. I've seen some jobs that are done horribly.
(28:29):
And you want to make sure that if you do
want to do it, you make sure one the car
is fairly new, and then two you want to make
sure that you find a reputable guy that can do it.
All right. Again, I'm not too familiar with who's the
best in in the Cincinnati area, the Tristate area that
can do it, but it is an option for you.
(28:50):
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Speaker 2 (29:39):
Michael has been patiently waiting A Michael, Welcome to the
car show. How can I help?
Speaker 5 (29:45):
Well?
Speaker 9 (29:45):
You and I spoke a couple of weeks ago about
my twenty twenty passbinder about the alternator. You remember that
because I called follow it up with your shop, and
I think you were correct. But however it went out
again and I had to have it. As a matter
of fact, Triple A said this is your fifth toe.
You're not getting any more toes. So I did actually
(30:06):
take it to the place I go out here in
East Kate, Ohio, and they said, now you need to
take it to the dealership, and it turns out it
was the alternator. Now, I having said that, and if
you remember I told you I had about a thousand
miles left before the warranty, the extended warranty after purchased
went out. Yeah, and believe it or not, the car
(30:28):
went out. It got fixed and the my deductible was
one hundred dollars and that's what I paid for a
fifteen hundred dollars alternator was one hundred dollars deductible.
Speaker 5 (30:40):
So they act.
Speaker 9 (30:41):
I've had other extended warranties where they're idiots, like you said, okay,
but for whatever reason, and I'll tell you the insurance
company with a fidelity warranty. And I purchased this car
from over on Loving Mageer Road hurts run a car
when it went out of business because they were giving
away these cars.
Speaker 8 (30:59):
But it acts.
Speaker 9 (31:01):
It actually it actually worked. So I was like, I
was totally shocked too, but it actually worked. I only
paid one hundred dollars deductible to have the entire alternator replaced.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Well, I mean, that's that's great, and that's absolutely great.
And you know, and listen, you know, when I was
working with these companies, like I said, I don't do
I just don't do bus with them anymore because it's
an absolute headache. But what what they do typically is
they say, hey, listen, we don't we don't pay any diagnostic,
we don't pay any shop supply fees, we don't pay
(31:33):
any taxes, we don't pay what's your labor rate? And
you're like, you know labor rates one hundred bucks, Well,
we only pay fifty dollars an hour, right, And then
what happens is and then and then if it's a
big repair like yours, typically they'll sit there and go, well,
we need to send our own guy out there to
basically diagnose it and make sure that you know what
you're doing. So then you're waiting two or three days
(31:55):
for somebody to come out and verify that yes, the
car does need the old NAT, and then you know,
all in all, what I see primarily is is like, okay,
well we'll pay the job's fifteen hundred dollars, right, but
we'll pay seven hundred and fifty. And I just don't
I don't think that's I don't think that's right. I
mean in your case, I mean that's great. And who
(32:16):
who was the company through, Well.
Speaker 9 (32:20):
It's through Fidelity, and who I took it to was
my And I'll tell you Dealership and Escape and it
was like okay, yeah, yeah, we've got disapproved. I was like, wow, okay,
but it was the cool thing is they hit my
car for a week, so they gave me a courtesy car.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
So I had one of these little the kicks.
Speaker 9 (32:43):
I don't know, we've got like nine million miles to
the gas. Yeah, help me five bucks to fill it up.
So I was like, I like my Pathfinder. Okay, I
like a little bigger, be a little more metal around me.
But I was I was shocked that they did it,
but it was and it was I loved them in
Deer and the Hurts rent a car that used to
(33:04):
be there.
Speaker 6 (33:05):
You know what I'm talking about, right, mm hmm yep, yep.
Speaker 9 (33:08):
Yeah. So I was like, I mean they were giving
these cars away. And in twenty twenty, I got a
twenty twenty Passfinder for twenty three thousand dollars. And I
typically do not get extended warranties. But that little magnum
p I voice if you remember that, was going off.
It's like, you know, you get this car almost from nothing,
(33:30):
why don't you just go ahead and get it?
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (33:32):
And like I said, like we talked a couple of
weeks ago. It was right before the warranty expired, and
I was like, I don't even know if you're going
to cover this, but they went ahead and covered it.
I was totally shocked.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Yeah, that's I mean, that's that's awesome. And like I said,
I have seen I have seen people where it does
work out for him, but nine out of ten times
it doesn't. But in your case, it worked out for you.
I'm I'm I'm I'm happy for you, man, So that's good.
Speaker 9 (33:59):
No, I agree.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
I agree with you because I've got extends the word on.
Speaker 9 (34:02):
Other cars that I've proned and they're like, God, no,
this isn't covered, this isn't covered, this isn't covered, this
isn't cover.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
I'm like, for real, Yeah, yeah, I had I had
a customer one time that had a Chevy. I can't
remember what kind of car it was, but anyways, he
needed a compressor, right, and so if you read the
fine details, is a C compressor's covered? Right, So call
them up, call the insurance company and they're like, yep,
it's a C compressor.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
It's bad yep. I was like, is it covered, Yep,
it's covered.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
I was like, all right. We're like, why, what's wrong
with the compressor? Said, well, it's it's I said, it's
leaking out of the front seal the A C compressor
and they're like, oh, that's not covered. I said, the
compressor's covered, yeah, but the front seal is not really,
so you gotta replace. I was like, well, I have
to replace the whole compressor to replace the seal. Yep.
Front In the fine print it said the front seal
(34:52):
wasn't covered, but everything else was. And I'm like, man,
that's that. That ain't that's not right.
Speaker 9 (34:58):
That's petty, that's petty.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Yeah. Yeah, So you know, so the customer still had
to pay twelve hundred dollars for a compressor because the
front seal was leaking. And again, listen, they've got lawyers,
they've got you know, they've got people writing, writing all
this stuff out, and they've got this stuff all figured out,
and I just feel that it's it's it's just very
deceiving to the general public. So that's kind of why
(35:20):
I got I get turned off, just turn off from it.
But again, I guess it can work in some people
if you do have one out there and you're like, oh, shoot,
I shouldn't have bought it. It can work out in
your benefit, especially in your case. It can work out.
But if you can avoid doing it, I would because
it's a whole bunch of record. And again in your case,
(35:40):
so if you would have brought it to my shop
and I had it for a week, I wouldn't have
the ability to give you a loaner car, right, so
you'd be without a car for an entire week, you
know what I mean. So that's the other side.
Speaker 9 (35:52):
We have three cars. We have three car we have
an extra car. As a matter of fact, my wife's
driving it now. But I'm sitting here looking at it.
It is said paid one seventy dollars two cents, the
labor was nine ninety nine point seventy five and the
part for a three seventy two point seven. So yeah, yeah,
(36:12):
I was like, and why I got you on the phone.
Let me ask you another question about brake fluids because
they have you on telephone. I was told because when
they checked my car it was like you got a
little coloring going on your brake fluid.
Speaker 5 (36:26):
I guess it's copper.
Speaker 9 (36:27):
I think, is that what they call it? Copper? Or
where where it's not your traditional red brake fluid.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Well, the break fluid. The brake fluid should look the
brake fluid should look like yellowish, it should look like
apple juice.
Speaker 5 (36:44):
Okay, okay, so it's actually.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
A little it's actually lighter than that.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
But when it starts getting darker or starting to look
like apple juice or darker colored, it should be changed. So,
I mean typically most manufacturers recommend every two years that
it should be that it should be changed. And I listen, uh,
we do it at our shop. You know, break fluid
absorbs moisture. Over time, you'll get a fading pedal because
(37:12):
that moisture. Obviously, you know again it's are you gonna
have some type of catastrophic failure if you don't do it? No,
But if you want to up keep your car, you
want to keep it going, and you want to have
a more responsive brake pedal and prolong the hoses and
the calipers and that thing, you should you should change it.
Speaker 9 (37:31):
But you know again, all my vehicles, all my vehicles
get oil changes with synthetic as five thousand miles or less.
That's I don't play around with vehicles. So and I
will caution I'm gonna throw this out there. I'm not
advocating or they're going against anybody, but I was told
(37:53):
that my bug. When they brought it in, they did
a service check off, yeah, video and service it. But
then they the service guy was like, your your fog
lights don't work. I was like, really, when I brought
it in they worked, but I checked the night before last.
I'm like, I said, you had my fog lights turned
off instead of turned on. So they wanted to replace
(38:15):
my fog light. Yeah, so buyer beware. I guess I'm
that one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I want to follow
up with you. But it actually turned out to be
the alternator and you and I we've had two discussions
on this prior to this, so.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
Well, I do remember. I do remember it so well.
Great man, that's awesome. I'm glad it worked out for you.
So I appreciate the phone call.
Speaker 10 (38:42):
All right, man, A great day.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
All right you too, Bye bye, all right again, taking
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Speaker 2 (39:25):
Welcome back taking your car questions and I want to
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We are run out of time, so I want to
go back to the phones as quickly as we can.
We've got bill a bill, Welcome to the car show.
How can I help?
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Thank you for patiently waiting.
Speaker 11 (39:40):
No, you're welcome, Thanks for taking a call.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
Sure, how can I help?
Speaker 11 (39:44):
I've picked up ninety four our Chevy truck. You know
I'm going to try to restore it, and it's been
sitting with gats in up for our all many years
and I just want to get your opinion the best
way to get the gas out what it'll be the
take the fuel filter off and let it pump out,
or somebody suggested taking it off with the fuel injection,
(40:09):
you know, in the engine, and let the relay pump
it out, or I'm not sure which way here.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Yeah, we said you wanted to restore it.
Speaker 11 (40:20):
Yeah, I mean it's a full size truck and I
don't see too many of those around anymore.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
No, no, you don't. How long? How long has the
truck been? How long? How old do you think the
gas is?
Speaker 11 (40:30):
I would say about four or five years.
Speaker 5 (40:32):
Maybe a little.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Yeah. Oh, there's nothing worse than the smell of stale gas.
Speaker 11 (40:38):
I discarded before I had a toad, and then once
I gave a gas that died and haven't been able
to start it since.
Speaker 5 (40:45):
Man.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
Well, typically I mean you could you could, you know,
take the line off at the one of the lines
off of the fuel filter and just pump it all out.
You could do that, I mean the way we would
do it at my shop. And you may not be
able to do this, but what we would typically do
is and the easiest way to do it is we
would take the bed off the frame and again typically
(41:13):
most trucks there's three there's six bolts that hold there's
three on each side of that frame that that hold
that that bed in there. Typically that's what we would
do is we would just you know, and the beds
are really really light. I mean, it usually only takes
about two maybe three guys just take those six bolts
(41:34):
out and lift that bed off, that off that frame,
and then the tank is right there, and then it's
got a plastic most likely, well it's a ninety four,
so it's got probably a metal locker ring. You just
take a screwdriver or a chisel, and a screwdriver would be recommended.
You don't want any sparks, and you want to knock
that locking ring off and just pull that pump out,
(41:56):
suck it out. I mean, I think that would be
the best, but again that's a lot of work. I mean,
you could take it off at the fuel filter and
have it pump out, but the pump could be bad too,
where it's not gonna pump out, you know what I mean.
Speaker 11 (42:11):
Yeah, you got a point there. Would that be better
sitting and dropping the tank?
Speaker 2 (42:16):
No, I wouldn't, No, because those straps. The Typically the
straps are completely severely rusted. The bolts that hold the
straps in are severely rusted, and they typically will break
off and you can't get the straps off, and where
the bolts for the bed you can get out. I've
(42:36):
never ever ever had a problem getting the bed bolts out,
always have a problem getting the fuel tank straps. So
I would not drop the tank. It would be easier.
If you're gonna drop the tank, don't just take the
bed off. But if the pump is working, yeah, obviously
get a bucket or pail or something underneath it and
(42:59):
try to pump it out out. But man, back in those days,
I mean GM and four were notorious for bad fuel pumps,
but you could try it.
Speaker 11 (43:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
And then the other thing though, too, is if that
fuel filter itself, that line, the nut that screws into
that filter, if it's all rusted, right, it's all rusted,
it will come off. Then you can't get it off.
Then you know, break the fuel line, and then you're
not gonna be able to get fuel lines for it,
and it could open up a can of worms. I
(43:30):
would probably just take the bed off, make it a
Saturday project. Take the it's six bolts. I mean most
trucks have just three bolts on each side of the frame. Yes,
it would require a little bit more work, but you're
taking that bed off, you're gonna restore it anyways.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
Take that bet off. The pump is right there.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
It would make your life so much easier by going
that route. That's the way I would do it, And
I'd siphon it out that way.
Speaker 11 (43:55):
Oh canstead of sing it through the piller tube as well?
You like, that's those pump hand pumps that siphon it out.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
So most most I don't on a ninety four, I'm
not sure, but most vehicles they've got like a like
a ball that's in the filler neck. So if the
if the truck was to flip over, the gas doesn't
pour out of there, and so people can't siphon the
gas out of it. On a ninety four, it probably
you probably still can't siphon the gas out of it.
I'm not quite sure. I know on these newer cars,
(44:25):
most of the cars that are out there today, they've
got a ball that won't allow so if again, if
the car does tip, the gas doesn't pour out of it.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
You know, Yeah, so I mean you can you can try.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
There's a it's on Amazon. There's a pump. It's like
a manual pump. It's just got a little marble at
the end of it. But you would run it down
there and then you just shake it and it. Man,
the things you can get them for like they're cheap.
I don't want to say, like twenty six bucks. You
can try to siphon it out that way, but I
(45:00):
think the best way would be just take the bed
off the frame and and uh and and go that route.
Speaker 11 (45:07):
So all right, it wouldn't been good to change up
filter anyway.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
And it would be absolutely it would be.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
But I would I would recommend if you're gonna do it,
you make I would get some PB blast or some
WT forty and so get some some type of penetrating oil,
and you soak that thing for a couple of days.
Soak it. Let it try to work its way in
there so you don't, you know, get one of those
lines it's all rusted and and and create a headache
(45:37):
for you. So hey, listen, I gotta go. I really
do appreciate it. Thanks for holding all right, all right,
take care Brandy. I apologize. Please call me back next Saturday.
I'll be back to answer all of your car questions.
I really do appreciate everybody calling. Everybody, have a great weekend.
Uh let's go bangles right hoo day. We need to
win tomorrow. Uh last week wasn't too great but uh
(45:58):
but uh anyways, Hey, I'll be.
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So I uh didn't know yeap, I didn't know when
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want to encourage anybody to call as far as whatever
car question you may have or car you know, maintenance
issue or you know again buying a new or use one.
I was actually I was watching somebody I follow on
social media and talking about cars and whatnot, and this guy,
(02:42):
uh man, he was talking about used car inspections. And
I'll tell you what. It's something that I feel like
in the industry most people don't think about or talk about.
But man, if you are in the market to buy
a used vehicle. And let me tell you with the
price of these cars, nowaday, if you're buying a used vehicle, man,
(03:03):
you really really need to get it inspected by your mechanic,
a mechanic or by me anybody that needs to put
somebody needs to look at this vehicle. Okay. These cars
have a lot of you know, components that can break
easily and can be very very expensive. Okay. Now, if
(03:27):
you're like, well, Dan, you know, I'm looking at a
car and it's coming from Florida or Georgia or whatever,
you know, you got to think about find a shop
down there near that place where it's being, where it's
coming from, and get it inspected. To find a reputable
shop and wherever it's coming from and get it inspected. Now,
we at Donovan's, we typically will It depends on the
(03:49):
you know, depends on the age. It depends on the mileage,
of course, right, So if you've got a car that's
twenty years old and two hundred thousand miles, we're going
to typically charge you more simply because we're gonna we're
gonna have to spend a lot more time postal car
that's one year old and it's thirteen thousand miles on it, right,
you need to be And just because it's a newer
(04:10):
vehicle with less miles does not mean it's not a
headache or doesn't mean that it's got problems, right, because
a lot of times, you know, these cars can get wrecked,
and these cars can get damaged, and you know, you
could be buying somebody else's problems, right, classic, classic example.
I had a young lady that was buying a vehicle
(04:32):
that was a pre owned, certified, pre owned, certified right
lexus right, and so it's good it was certified up
to one hundred thousand miles. Well, guess what I found
out that we she brought it in regardless they had
low miles. I think they wanted forty or fifty thousand
dollars for this vehicle, and it was low miles. I
wanted to haven't inspected. Anyways, we looked at it and
(04:54):
go and I did inspect it, and sure enough, I
noticed that a lot of the components in the front end,
uh weren't factor they weren't normal. There you could see
there was a shift in some of the material the
bumper and stuff like that. So come to find out
it was wrecked at the dealership. It was wrecked, the
whole front end. I think I think she's I think
(05:14):
it was like eleven thousand dollars worth a damage to
the front end of this vehicle. And they're selling this
thing as a pre owned, certified vehicle and it wasn't.
And uh, they did all kinds of damage. It wasn't
originally it had been wrecked. And a lot of us
sometimes will you know, we get we get complacent, right,
we say, oh, well, the car facts showed no accident report.
Well it doesn't. That doesn't necessarily mean it wasn't an accident. Okay,
(05:39):
you know, point in case my vehicle. You know, if
I wreck my vehicle, right, and or you wreck your
vehicle and you've got a buddy that's gonna fix it
for you on the side and doesn't run everything through
car facts, it's not going to be on there. So
you got to be you know, make sure, especially in
today's vehicles, if you're buying a used vehicle, it's imperative
(06:02):
and it's important that you get it inspected.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
I feel like we don't talk about this enough.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
I feel like it's something that like, you know, because
we get I get the phone call all the time,
do you guys look at cars before you before I
buy use one, absolutely, And whether you bring it to
Donoinans or you bring it to your mechanic or if
you're you know, listening from you know, really anywhere. Anytime
you're buying a used vehicle, you need to get it
(06:28):
inspected by a reputable mechanic. The other thing that I
want to talk about real quick too, is if you're
buying a new vehicle, Okay, there is an option to
buy like an extended factory warranty. Okay, that is okay.
If you're buying a new vehicle and you haven't your
they have an option for an extended factory warranty. If
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you have the ability to in the in the money
to do it, buy it. Okay. It will save you
money down the road, especially with these new cars. If
you're buying a used vehicle with a after market warranty,
listen to this factory warranty or after market warranty. If
you're buying a used vehicle with a after market warranty,
(07:14):
do not buy it. Okay, do not buy it now.
You can buy the car, but do not buy the
after market warranty. They are not it's it's, in my opinion, criminal,
what they do to people. They leave you to believe that, hey,
if anything breaks on this car, you're going to be covered.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
And I've seen it time and time again.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
They run people through the ringers on these things, and
you don't get your money back. So again, if you're
buying a new vehicle and they have an availability, if
you have the availability by a factory warranty, go ahead,
and if you can afford it, go ahead and do it, okay,
because it's a factory warranty. But if you're buying a
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used vehicle again and it's an after market warranty, I
don't care who it is. I don't care what the
name of the company is. I don't care what they
promise you. Do not buy it. Take that money that
they want to charge you. Let's just say that after
market warranties, I don't know, five thousand dollars. Take that
money and put it and invest it. Okay. I can
assure you you'll get way more for your money if
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you invest it than buy the after market warranty. Because
everybody is duped to think that this is going to
take care of you, and everything that breaks on this
car is going to be fixed. And I'm telling you
they don't. I see it time and time again and again.
In my opinion, it's criminal what they charge, what they
do to people. And we don't even we don't even
work with any of those companies because they spend, they
(08:39):
waste so much time and money and your money really
and uh, they're a headaches. So please, if you're buying
a used vehicle, do not buy an after market warranty. So,
all right, again, taking your phone calls and we'll call
five one, three five hundred. Let's go to the phones.
We've got Jim. Hey, Jim, welcome to the car show.
I can help, Thank you.
Speaker 6 (09:00):
I finally got a hold of you. I'm going to
I'm want to talk to you about the oil uses,
probably high miless vehicles. Yeah, my wife is a twenty
eleven Toyota row Out four, wonderful car. I've got one
hundred and eighty seven thousand miles on it, and uh,
they recommend five W twenty oil. So and I babies
(09:22):
todath it's like now and then it starts to use
it the court. My wife goes it used to she
she knows how to check your own tars and all that,
and and she says it's court long.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Again.
Speaker 6 (09:34):
I look at that. Well, so I got a I
bout a quart of five W thirty and put in
it and it slows it down and still use the oil.
So I put a clod last TP and and then
don't use oil anymore. It don't the rings are wore out.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
What what is it?
Speaker 1 (09:51):
What did you put in it?
Speaker 6 (09:54):
STP?
Speaker 2 (09:58):
So you put the STP? What what was it? Just?
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Was it an additive or was it actual STP oil?
Speaker 6 (10:06):
Or it's STP.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
It's thickened oil.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Okay, all right, okay.
Speaker 6 (10:11):
He used to be in a can who had a
zip top on it and that now it's in a
planetic a bot. But anyway, it don't use oil anymore.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Really really, huh, I mean, what what's the what what
is the oil that the STP? What's the what is
the discussy of it?
Speaker 6 (10:32):
It's real thick. If you you put a take a
screwdriver the stick in it there and you cannot hold it,
cannot hold that screwdriver with that stuff.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
That's slick. Wow.
Speaker 6 (10:44):
Drag I drag raced all my life and uh, this
one guy used to all the way around the country.
He gets four or five hundred thousand miles out of
it an engine and I and I said, what do
you do? He said, well, every time I changed oil,
he set up put two cans STP in it. Engine
last for a long time. And that's all I have
to say.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Huh, Well, I will look into that.
Speaker 6 (11:07):
Okay, Well, pleasure, thank you. And I'll tell you what.
I administrated those after market warnings for years. They do
everything they can, everything they can. They'll say, well, I
didn't get a copy of this, not me have a
copy of that. And and because they didn't beat me,
you're gonna see ye. Some places won't even mess with them.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
I don't. I don't mess with them there.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
They're night they but they tell people the bumper to
bumper warn that's only a grand new car. But they
tell them that. They think everything's free. I know, but
I'll tell you it was a pleasure is speaking to you,
and I yes.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
All right, thank you. But yeah, we getting a little
bit of feedback there. But yeah, so listen, I'm here
to tell you just like Jim was saying, uh, two
things and this is a great and we talk about
this all the time on the show. Is listen oil
consumption is a very very common problem on most of
these vehicles. And I just had a customer not too
(12:09):
long ago and he goes, hey, I'm going through a
quart of oil every every thousand miles. And we're like, yeah,
well that's pretty common. And you could just see the
look on his face. He's like he just wasn't having it,
and he just was like, there's no way this car's
burning oil. I'm like, man, we do a lot of it.
That's that's the other thing is burning oil. And we
talk about this all the time on the show, but
(12:29):
I wanted to talk again, you know, I was watching
that gentleman on social media and I just you know,
I wanted to emphasize to you, especially with the cost
of these new these used vehicles, right, they're expensive. Right,
it's the second most expensive, you know, item you're going
to have other than your house. Right, you want to
(12:49):
make sure you take care of it. So if you're
buying again, if you were when you buy a house,
what do we do We get it inspected by somebody, Right,
same thing. If you're buying of use vehicle, you need
to get it inspected by mechanic to protect you because
again it can be It'll save you a lot of
money and a lot of headache if you get it inspected.
(13:10):
So a lot of times we don't talk about it,
and I kind of want to emphasize on that today
is it's something that should be done. So all right,
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Let's go back to the phones. So we've got Opie. Hey,
OPI welcome, welcome to the show.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
I can help welcome back.
Speaker 8 (14:32):
And I'm going to tell you right now, enjoy them
young and is while you can, because they grew up
too fast.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
I know, man, I my daughter, I just I just had.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
I just had a grand baby about six weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
So well, congratulations.
Speaker 8 (14:44):
My daughter gave me a grand baby, you know. But
you know, two weeks ago I taught her how to drive.
So talking about then pre hit the pre purchase inspections.
My wife's oh seven f two fifty that I bought
eighten years ago.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
Found a really good deal on it. It was a truck out.
Speaker 8 (15:04):
Of Texas, low miles, but it was all the way
up by Cleveland. We drove up there and I called
a Ford dealer, took it over to Ford dealer. They
charged me seventy five bucks. They went over this thing
and and now mind you it's a six to o,
which you know six o's were notorists were popping the
head studs. So the shop that had it, they had
(15:27):
that in order to change the head studs, you have
to pull the cab and the doghouse off. They did
the headstud bulletproofed. It did everything that Ford should have
done to begin with. Well, I took it over to
this Ford dealer and they looked at it and they
said the radiator's leaking. And they said, that's a twenty
five hundred dollars job to put a radiator in this thing.
(15:48):
And they said, oh, by the way, the bearings and
the turbot were on their way out. Took it back
to the place where we were buying it from I
and I gave them a report from the Ford dealer
and I said, ya want to fix this or or
the you know, the deal's over with And they said, well,
you know what, we can't sell that if we don't
fix it.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
They fixed it.
Speaker 8 (16:06):
We've still got it for the same price and ad
down the road we went.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Yeah, that you know, and that's a great, great point.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
And I tell my customers this all the time.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
You know, when you're doing when you what how what
you do is when you're looking at a used vehicle
and you get it inspected in your mechanic or whoever
you take it to find something wrong with it, it
gives you the upper hand. It gives you the leverage. Right,
so if they find these problems, right, you can go
back there and say, hey, you go, can you fix
these things?
Speaker 1 (16:36):
I'll buy the truck. Can you fix these things?
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Or can you take it off the price of the truck,
because I'm gonna have to turn around and spend you know,
another you know, five thousand or twenty five hundred dollars
like you said, another twenty five hundred dollars to fix
this radiator. Can you take the price? Can you take
it the price off.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
The car or the truck, or can you fix it?
Speaker 8 (16:52):
Well, they not only replaced the radiator, they also replace
the turbot, which that.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
That was probably another that was probably five five gran
there too.
Speaker 9 (17:02):
Yeah, yeah, so it.
Speaker 8 (17:03):
Worked, I mean, and it wasn't like It wasn't like
I took a scooter's garage, right, and you know, I
mean I took it to the Ford dealer and they
had that thing for three hours, and like I said,
they were charging seventy five bucks, and they gave me
a laundry list of stuff. You know, there was a
few connectors that weren't plugged in from where they had
the cab off of it and all that.
Speaker 5 (17:21):
Stuff, which they fixed some of that and as they.
Speaker 8 (17:24):
Found it, and then you know, they gave me a
laundry list, and you know, they.
Speaker 5 (17:27):
Said, well, yeah, we'll fix it, we'll do the deal.
Come back in a week and pick it up.
Speaker 8 (17:31):
So my wife, my wife and my mom went up
there and.
Speaker 5 (17:33):
Picked it up and brought it back.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
I mean, it's a great example. And again, you know
a lot of people too think that, hey, if you're
buying a car from a used car lot or a
deal even a dealership, you're buying a used car from,
then like, oh, it should be in good mechanical No,
these people are I'm sorry, but they're salesmen.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
They're just their job is the selle.
Speaker 8 (17:57):
There are three people. There are three people that aren't
trust politicians, lawyers, and car salesman.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
I think that the truth and not necessarily in that right, right, right, yeah,
and listen, you take some other calls, man, I appreciate it.
You have a great weekend, you can. Uh So Again,
when you're buying a vehicle used or from a dealership,
(18:25):
it doesn't really matter because a lot of people are well,
I'm buying it from a dealership, so it should be good.
That does not always mean the case. That's not always
the case. And again, I'm not picking on used car salesmen.
I'm not picking on used car lots. These people their
job is to sell cars. They're not mechanics, right, And
again I'm not picking I'm not saying that they are
trying to deceive you. I'm not saying that that that
(18:46):
everybody's just dishonest. I'm just saying, if you're buying something,
especially with the cost of today's cars, make sure you
get it inspected. And again, I'm not saying that they're
trying to pull the wool over your eyes and you're
you know, they're just trying to sell you, you know,
you know, a piece of crap. I'm just saying, get
it inspected. Again, their job, they're not mechanics. They don't
look at these cars when they're selling these cars. They
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don't pop the hood, they don't get it up on
the on the lift and take a look at it.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
They don't know what they're looking at.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Right. Their job is just to sell a car. It's
not to find out if there's anything wrong with it.
So again it's imperative. It's important that you get it inspected.
And again, let me reiterate, do not buy an aftermark
a warranty period. So all right, let's go back to
the phones. We've got Jim. Hey, Jim, welcome to the
car show. How can I help? Hi?
Speaker 10 (19:35):
How you doing?
Speaker 2 (19:36):
I'm good?
Speaker 1 (19:37):
How are you good?
Speaker 5 (19:39):
Good?
Speaker 9 (19:39):
Hey?
Speaker 10 (19:40):
I've got a twenty three four Runner that we bought recently,
and I was just wondering as far as buying rush
protection from I turn it down as a dealership. But
like z Bart's been around here forever and so forth,
I know these things, these vehicles today are better protected,
(20:03):
you know, as they're built from rush and whatnot. But
what's your opinion on the z Barts of the world
out there in terms of added rust protection?
Speaker 5 (20:15):
You know what?
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Great question? Great question? So and listen, I had this
conversation with my brother earlier this week, I said, you know,
we were talking about a car and my truck actually
because my older truck and it's just so rusted. I'm like, well,
you know, we live in the rust belt here, and yeah,
everything that's out there, you know, with the Brian they
put down the salt and everything that we deal with,
(20:39):
it's something that should we can talk about. Now. I
think with it being a twenty three, how many miles
are on it?
Speaker 10 (20:49):
We bought it with five thousand. I was a demo,
so I want to say it's got seven on it now?
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Okay? All right? And does I think there's some factors
that we need to think about out here? What part
it says you're in alexandera, Kentucky? Yeah, uh huh. And
is this vehicle does it stay? Is it is it
gonna be outside its entire life?
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Or is it garage kept?
Speaker 10 (21:13):
Garage?
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Okay? So I think if a vehicle, if a vehicle
is staying outside its whole life, I think it's something
that you should look into. If it's being garage kept,
I don't think that. And it's been Is this a
daily driver for you? Yes? Okay? The I see a
(21:36):
lot of cars that come in that have the Z
bar on it there and they're protected or whatnot. I think,
if you're gonna do it, I'm not against it. If
you're gonna do it, I would do it sooner than later.
Here's and here's why. Sometimes when they when once they
spray that stuff. A lot of times too, it just
traps if there's already run. Like if you've got a
car that's ten years old and you want to do it,
(21:56):
I would not recommend it because all you do is
just trap it. You just trap the water and you
trap it in there, and then in my opinion, you're
not really blocking it, you're justscapsulating it. But then it
continues to continue to russ. So yeah, on the on
the four Runner, though, I would have to have to
(22:18):
look at it, because the older four Runners and the
older Tundras and the Kuna's man that I tell you
what I've seen, I can't tell you how many of
those cars I've come that have come into my shop
with the frames rotted out on it. I think Toyota,
oh yeah, it's a massive problem, massive problem. And yeah,
(22:40):
you know, and they did honor some of the frames
and replacing some of the frames, but not all of them.
I think that Toyota has gotten away from that. I
would have to because again with it being a twenty three,
i'd have to look at it.
Speaker 11 (22:53):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
I don't think it's a bad thing. But here here,
hear me out on this too. When you when they
do that, you know, they hit all those bold and
everything like that. So if there's in the fuel lines
and brake lines and everything like that. So going down
the road, if you have to remove those bolts, well
you can't get a you know, a socket on it
because the bolt's just covered in that that Z Bart stuff.
(23:14):
So yeah, you know, I'm not against it. I just
if you're gonna drive it and keep it in the garage,
if you're gonna drive it daily, keep it in the garage,
I don't. I wouldn't do it. I'd leave it the
way it was.
Speaker 10 (23:30):
Uh, well, what's the difference of leaving it in the garage.
I mean we're still gonna drive it on the assalted
road and then pull it in the garage versus leaving
it in the driveway.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Yeah. Correct, But here here because what happens is when
it sits outside. Okay, that moisture that's on the blacktop
or on the concrete. That moisture. Obviously, when it evaporates,
it rises, right, so it goes up and it just
collects there. Right. So if it sits in the garage,
obviously the frame or whatnot's gonna drive and whatnot, and yes,
(24:01):
that water will evaporate, but it's not exposed to the
elements the way it is if it sits outside. You
know what I mean. I mean, I had correct and
I had a gentleman that had a ninety his unfortunately
his parents passed away. It was like a ninety seven
Cadillac and had like thirty thousand miles on it. Right,
this thing sat outside its whole life. It was a
(24:21):
ninety cent. This was I don't know, probably about five
years ago, right, so it was pretty old cars, twenty
years old something like that. And you know, he's like,
I said, man, this thing is an absolute rusted mess.
You need to get rote it. And he's like, well,
it's only got thirty thousand miles on it. I'm like,
I understand that. But it sat outside on the black
top outside its entire life, and it's a rusted mess. Now,
(24:42):
if you've got a car that's sitting in a garage
for that amount of time, it's not getting that exposure
to the elements of the weather. So it's really that's
really key is keeping a car in a garage. That's
how you're gonna get the longevity out of a vehicle.
So I think with the age of it, and again
(25:03):
I would have to see it to this. I don't
know if Toyota has got away some of these, I
mean they still have a frame. But I just I
wouldn't do it.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Let let's let's put it this way. If I buy
a new vehicle, I'm not gonna do it. I just
I don't like covering all that stuff up because if
there's any type of repair that needs to be done
down the road, you've you've kind of just created another problem.
So yeah, so but I mean, you know, again I'm
(25:35):
not against it, but I just I'm not gonna do
it to my I don't do it to my vehicle.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
So what.
Speaker 10 (25:44):
Do you have an opinion on? You know, they've got
paint protection and different types of that. You know where
they put up.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Y ceramic coding. Yeah, I would do that, yeah, absolutely, Uh,
the ceramic coating, I would do. Uh, even some of
your kind of your local car washers will offer some
type of ceramica. It's not really a ceramic coding like
you need to take it to a professional and have
it done. Now it's pretty pricey, but yes, I mean
(26:13):
as far as the paint goes, I think, especially with
the debris and rocks and salt and everything like that. Yeah,
protect the paint because it can be. Bodywork is very expensive.
But I would do I would recommend that the z
bart I just again, I'm you know, I'm I don't
have a problem with it, but I just wouldn't do
it to my own vehicle. So okay, all right.
Speaker 6 (26:36):
Well that helps a lot. All right, thanks, take care.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
All right, you're welcome to take care. So you know
the thing is too and and I'm going back to
the whole get the car inspected. Right, You look at
these cars and the top, you know, the rest of
the whole body is like, oh man, this car is great,
The inside's perfect. Whatnot? The problem is you get it
up in the air. It's a whole nother story. And
(26:59):
I time and time again, I'll get these cars that
come into our shop to get inspected, get them up
in the air, and they do look great, You get
them up in the air and they're an absolute rusted mess.
And come to find out, if they come from Michigan,
you know, northern Ohio, New York, you know up all
those again, northern states, these things are absolute rusted messes.
(27:23):
They are messes, and it creates a tremendous amount of problems. Right.
So again, if you're going back to buying and used
vehicle and it is out of state, you want the
Southern States, you want Georgia, Florida, Texas, somewhere like that
because it's not exposed to all the elements of the
salt and the brine and everything else they put in
(27:43):
the streets these nowadays up here in the north. So
it's important too. Just because the interior is perfect and
the exterior is perfect and it looks great underneath tells
a whole other story, right, So it's something to think
about when you're buying a used vehicle. So I thought
Jim's questions were great. So and again, if you're if
your car is twenty years old and you're not familiar
(28:06):
with z bar z Bart kind of basically capsuleate capsulizes
and and supposed to prevent the rust from getting any worse. Right,
But what happens though, too, is it also traps the
moisture and the water in there too if it's not
done perfectly. Well. Okay, now, I've seen some jobs that
are done well. I've seen some jobs that are done horribly.
(28:29):
And you want to make sure that if you do
want to do it, you make sure one the car
is fairly new, and then two you want to make
sure that you find a reputable guy that can do it.
All right. Again, I'm not too familiar with who's the
best in in the Cincinnati area, the Tristate area that
can do it, but it is an option for you.
(28:50):
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Speaker 2 (29:33):
Taking your car questions the number call five one three
seven nine fifty five wred.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Let's go back to the phones.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Michael has been patiently waiting A Michael, Welcome to the
car show. How can I help?
Speaker 5 (29:45):
Well?
Speaker 9 (29:45):
You and I spoke a couple of weeks ago about
my twenty twenty passbinder about the alternator. You remember that
because I called follow it up with your shop, and
I think you were correct. But however it went out
again and I had to have it. As a matter
of fact, Triple A said this is your fifth toe.
You're not getting any more toes. So I did actually
(30:06):
take it to the place I go out here in
East Kate, Ohio, and they said, now you need to
take it to the dealership, and it turns out it
was the alternator. Now, I having said that, and if
you remember I told you I had about a thousand
miles left before the warranty, the extended warranty after purchased
went out. Yeah, and believe it or not, the car
(30:28):
went out. It got fixed and the my deductible was
one hundred dollars and that's what I paid for a
fifteen hundred dollars alternator was one hundred dollars deductible.
Speaker 5 (30:40):
So they act.
Speaker 9 (30:41):
I've had other extended warranties where they're idiots, like you said, okay,
but for whatever reason, and I'll tell you the insurance
company with a fidelity warranty. And I purchased this car
from over on Loving Mageer Road hurts run a car
when it went out of business because they were giving
away these cars.
Speaker 8 (30:59):
But it acts.
Speaker 9 (31:01):
It actually it actually worked. So I was like, I
was totally shocked too, but it actually worked. I only
paid one hundred dollars deductible to have the entire alternator replaced.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Well, I mean, that's that's great, and that's absolutely great.
And you know, and listen, you know, when I was
working with these companies, like I said, I don't do
I just don't do bus with them anymore because it's
an absolute headache. But what what they do typically is
they say, hey, listen, we don't we don't pay any diagnostic,
we don't pay any shop supply fees, we don't pay
(31:33):
any taxes, we don't pay what's your labor rate? And
you're like, you know labor rates one hundred bucks, Well,
we only pay fifty dollars an hour, right, And then
what happens is and then and then if it's a
big repair like yours, typically they'll sit there and go, well,
we need to send our own guy out there to
basically diagnose it and make sure that you know what
you're doing. So then you're waiting two or three days
(31:55):
for somebody to come out and verify that yes, the
car does need the old NAT, and then you know,
all in all, what I see primarily is is like, okay,
well we'll pay the job's fifteen hundred dollars, right, but
we'll pay seven hundred and fifty. And I just don't
I don't think that's I don't think that's right. I
mean in your case, I mean that's great. And who
(32:16):
who was the company through, Well.
Speaker 9 (32:20):
It's through Fidelity, and who I took it to was
my And I'll tell you Dealership and Escape and it
was like okay, yeah, yeah, we've got disapproved. I was like, wow, okay,
but it was the cool thing is they hit my
car for a week, so they gave me a courtesy car.
Speaker 5 (32:40):
So I had one of these little the kicks.
Speaker 9 (32:43):
I don't know, we've got like nine million miles to
the gas. Yeah, help me five bucks to fill it up.
So I was like, I like my Pathfinder. Okay, I
like a little bigger, be a little more metal around me.
But I was I was shocked that they did it,
but it was and it was I loved them in
Deer and the Hurts rent a car that used to
(33:04):
be there.
Speaker 6 (33:05):
You know what I'm talking about, right, mm hmm yep, yep.
Speaker 9 (33:08):
Yeah. So I was like, I mean they were giving
these cars away. And in twenty twenty, I got a
twenty twenty Passfinder for twenty three thousand dollars. And I
typically do not get extended warranties. But that little magnum
p I voice if you remember that, was going off.
It's like, you know, you get this car almost from nothing,
(33:30):
why don't you just go ahead and get it?
Speaker 2 (33:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (33:32):
And like I said, like we talked a couple of
weeks ago. It was right before the warranty expired, and
I was like, I don't even know if you're going
to cover this, but they went ahead and covered it.
I was totally shocked.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Yeah, that's I mean, that's that's awesome. And like I said,
I have seen I have seen people where it does
work out for him, but nine out of ten times
it doesn't. But in your case, it worked out for you.
I'm I'm I'm I'm happy for you, man, So that's good.
Speaker 9 (33:59):
No, I agree.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
I agree with you because I've got extends the word on.
Speaker 9 (34:02):
Other cars that I've proned and they're like, God, no,
this isn't covered, this isn't covered, this isn't covered, this
isn't cover.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
I'm like, for real, Yeah, yeah, I had I had
a customer one time that had a Chevy. I can't
remember what kind of car it was, but anyways, he
needed a compressor, right, and so if you read the
fine details, is a C compressor's covered? Right, So call
them up, call the insurance company and they're like, yep,
it's a C compressor.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
It's bad yep. I was like, is it covered, Yep,
it's covered.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
I was like, all right. We're like, why, what's wrong
with the compressor? Said, well, it's it's I said, it's
leaking out of the front seal the A C compressor
and they're like, oh, that's not covered. I said, the
compressor's covered, yeah, but the front seal is not really,
so you gotta replace. I was like, well, I have
to replace the whole compressor to replace the seal. Yep.
Front In the fine print it said the front seal
(34:52):
wasn't covered, but everything else was. And I'm like, man,
that's that. That ain't that's not right.
Speaker 9 (34:58):
That's petty, that's petty.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Yeah. Yeah, So you know, so the customer still had
to pay twelve hundred dollars for a compressor because the
front seal was leaking. And again, listen, they've got lawyers,
they've got you know, they've got people writing, writing all
this stuff out, and they've got this stuff all figured out,
and I just feel that it's it's it's just very
deceiving to the general public. So that's kind of why
(35:20):
I got I get turned off, just turn off from it.
But again, I guess it can work in some people
if you do have one out there and you're like, oh, shoot,
I shouldn't have bought it. It can work out in
your benefit, especially in your case. It can work out.
But if you can avoid doing it, I would because
it's a whole bunch of record. And again in your case,
(35:40):
so if you would have brought it to my shop
and I had it for a week, I wouldn't have
the ability to give you a loaner car, right, so
you'd be without a car for an entire week, you
know what I mean. So that's the other side.
Speaker 9 (35:52):
We have three cars. We have three car we have
an extra car. As a matter of fact, my wife's
driving it now. But I'm sitting here looking at it.
It is said paid one seventy dollars two cents, the
labor was nine ninety nine point seventy five and the
part for a three seventy two point seven. So yeah, yeah,
(36:12):
I was like, and why I got you on the phone.
Let me ask you another question about brake fluids because
they have you on telephone. I was told because when
they checked my car it was like you got a
little coloring going on your brake fluid.
Speaker 5 (36:26):
I guess it's copper.
Speaker 9 (36:27):
I think, is that what they call it? Copper? Or
where where it's not your traditional red brake fluid.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Well, the break fluid. The brake fluid should look the
brake fluid should look like yellowish, it should look like
apple juice.
Speaker 5 (36:44):
Okay, okay, so it's actually.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
A little it's actually lighter than that.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
But when it starts getting darker or starting to look
like apple juice or darker colored, it should be changed. So,
I mean typically most manufacturers recommend every two years that
it should be that it should be changed. And I listen, uh,
we do it at our shop. You know, break fluid
absorbs moisture. Over time, you'll get a fading pedal because
(37:12):
that moisture. Obviously, you know again it's are you gonna
have some type of catastrophic failure if you don't do it? No,
But if you want to up keep your car, you
want to keep it going, and you want to have
a more responsive brake pedal and prolong the hoses and
the calipers and that thing, you should you should change it.
Speaker 9 (37:31):
But you know again, all my vehicles, all my vehicles
get oil changes with synthetic as five thousand miles or less.
That's I don't play around with vehicles. So and I
will caution I'm gonna throw this out there. I'm not
advocating or they're going against anybody, but I was told
(37:53):
that my bug. When they brought it in, they did
a service check off, yeah, video and service it. But
then they the service guy was like, your your fog
lights don't work. I was like, really, when I brought
it in they worked, but I checked the night before last.
I'm like, I said, you had my fog lights turned
off instead of turned on. So they wanted to replace
(38:15):
my fog light. Yeah, so buyer beware. I guess I'm
that one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I want to follow
up with you. But it actually turned out to be
the alternator and you and I we've had two discussions
on this prior to this, so.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
Well, I do remember. I do remember it so well.
Great man, that's awesome. I'm glad it worked out for you.
So I appreciate the phone call.
Speaker 10 (38:42):
All right, man, A great day.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
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Speaker 2 (39:25):
Welcome back taking your car questions and I want to
call five one three, seven four nine fifty five hundred.
We are run out of time, so I want to
go back to the phones as quickly as we can.
We've got bill a bill, Welcome to the car show.
How can I help?
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Thank you for patiently waiting.
Speaker 11 (39:40):
No, you're welcome, Thanks for taking a call.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
Sure, how can I help?
Speaker 11 (39:44):
I've picked up ninety four our Chevy truck. You know
I'm going to try to restore it, and it's been
sitting with gats in up for our all many years
and I just want to get your opinion the best
way to get the gas out what it'll be the
take the fuel filter off and let it pump out,
or somebody suggested taking it off with the fuel injection,
(40:09):
you know, in the engine, and let the relay pump
it out, or I'm not sure which way here.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Yeah, we said you wanted to restore it.
Speaker 11 (40:20):
Yeah, I mean it's a full size truck and I
don't see too many of those around anymore.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
No, no, you don't. How long? How long has the
truck been? How long? How old do you think the
gas is?
Speaker 11 (40:30):
I would say about four or five years.
Speaker 5 (40:32):
Maybe a little.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Yeah. Oh, there's nothing worse than the smell of stale gas.
Speaker 11 (40:38):
I discarded before I had a toad, and then once
I gave a gas that died and haven't been able
to start it since.
Speaker 5 (40:45):
Man.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
Well, typically I mean you could you could, you know,
take the line off at the one of the lines
off of the fuel filter and just pump it all out.
You could do that, I mean the way we would
do it at my shop. And you may not be
able to do this, but what we would typically do
is and the easiest way to do it is we
would take the bed off the frame and again typically
(41:13):
most trucks there's three there's six bolts that hold there's
three on each side of that frame that that hold
that that bed in there. Typically that's what we would
do is we would just you know, and the beds
are really really light. I mean, it usually only takes
about two maybe three guys just take those six bolts
(41:34):
out and lift that bed off, that off that frame,
and then the tank is right there, and then it's
got a plastic most likely, well it's a ninety four,
so it's got probably a metal locker ring. You just
take a screwdriver or a chisel, and a screwdriver would be recommended.
You don't want any sparks, and you want to knock
that locking ring off and just pull that pump out,
(41:56):
suck it out. I mean, I think that would be
the best, but again that's a lot of work. I mean,
you could take it off at the fuel filter and
have it pump out, but the pump could be bad too,
where it's not gonna pump out, you know what I mean.
Speaker 11 (42:11):
Yeah, you got a point there. Would that be better
sitting and dropping the tank?
Speaker 2 (42:16):
No, I wouldn't, No, because those straps. The Typically the
straps are completely severely rusted. The bolts that hold the
straps in are severely rusted, and they typically will break
off and you can't get the straps off, and where
the bolts for the bed you can get out. I've
(42:36):
never ever ever had a problem getting the bed bolts out,
always have a problem getting the fuel tank straps. So
I would not drop the tank. It would be easier.
If you're gonna drop the tank, don't just take the
bed off. But if the pump is working, yeah, obviously
get a bucket or pail or something underneath it and
(42:59):
try to pump it out out. But man, back in those days,
I mean GM and four were notorious for bad fuel pumps,
but you could try it.
Speaker 11 (43:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
And then the other thing though, too, is if that
fuel filter itself, that line, the nut that screws into
that filter, if it's all rusted, right, it's all rusted,
it will come off. Then you can't get it off.
Then you know, break the fuel line, and then you're
not gonna be able to get fuel lines for it,
and it could open up a can of worms. I
(43:30):
would probably just take the bed off, make it a
Saturday project. Take the it's six bolts. I mean most
trucks have just three bolts on each side of the frame. Yes,
it would require a little bit more work, but you're
taking that bed off, you're gonna restore it anyways.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
Take that bet off. The pump is right there.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
It would make your life so much easier by going
that route. That's the way I would do it, And
I'd siphon it out that way.
Speaker 11 (43:55):
Oh canstead of sing it through the piller tube as well?
You like, that's those pump hand pumps that siphon it out.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
So most most I don't on a ninety four, I'm
not sure, but most vehicles they've got like a like
a ball that's in the filler neck. So if the
if the truck was to flip over, the gas doesn't
pour out of there, and so people can't siphon the
gas out of it. On a ninety four, it probably
you probably still can't siphon the gas out of it.
I'm not quite sure. I know on these newer cars,
(44:25):
most of the cars that are out there today, they've
got a ball that won't allow so if again, if
the car does tip, the gas doesn't pour out of it.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
You know, Yeah, so I mean you can you can try.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
There's a it's on Amazon. There's a pump. It's like
a manual pump. It's just got a little marble at
the end of it. But you would run it down
there and then you just shake it and it. Man,
the things you can get them for like they're cheap.
I don't want to say, like twenty six bucks. You
can try to siphon it out that way, but I
(45:00):
think the best way would be just take the bed
off the frame and and uh and and go that route.
Speaker 11 (45:07):
So all right, it wouldn't been good to change up
filter anyway.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
And it would be absolutely it would be.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
But I would I would recommend if you're gonna do it,
you make I would get some PB blast or some
WT forty and so get some some type of penetrating oil,
and you soak that thing for a couple of days.
Soak it. Let it try to work its way in
there so you don't, you know, get one of those
lines it's all rusted and and and create a headache
(45:37):
for you. So hey, listen, I gotta go. I really
do appreciate it. Thanks for holding all right, all right,
take care Brandy. I apologize. Please call me back next Saturday.
I'll be back to answer all of your car questions.
I really do appreciate everybody calling. Everybody, have a great weekend.
Uh let's go bangles right hoo day. We need to
win tomorrow. Uh last week wasn't too great but uh
(45:58):
but uh anyways, Hey, I'll be.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
Next Saturday answer all your car questions.
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