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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 6 (00:33):
I'll tell me it ship today, good afternoon, Good afternoon,
and welcome to the car.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
So that's a new that's a new one for me.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
So I uh didn't know yep, I didn't know when
to when my intro was so uh, but today listen, Uh,
you're you are listening to the car show fifty five
car see I'm dame not taking all of your car
questions and number called five one three four fifty five.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
That number again five one three seven fifty five hundred
as I usually do.
Speaker 7 (01:06):
You know.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
It's Uh, I've been. It's good to be back. I
took a little.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
I was gone for the past two weeks. I do apologize.
I want to be here every Saturday. I really do.
It's just you know, with uh, with work and three
boys all in sports man, it's just really hard to
to always get here. But uh, I'm here again every Saturday,
uh most saturdays. Uh to take all of your car
questions again the number called five to one three seven
(01:34):
four nine fifty five hundred. Uh, it's a gorgeous Saturday afternoon,
and you really can't get any better than this not
too hot, not too humid right in Cincinnati. You know,
if you don't like the weather, wait ten minutes and
it will change. But uh yeah, man, it's it's it's
great Saturday. And again happy to be back and uh
and uh again here every Saturday to take all of
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your car questions. So uh, I do want to encourage
anybody to call as far as whatever car question you
may have or car you know, maintenance issue or you
know again buying a new or use one. I was
actually I was watching somebody I follow on social media
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and talking about cars and whatnot, and this guy, uh man,
he was talking about.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Used car inspections. And I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
It's something that I feel like in the industry, most
people don't think about or talk about. But man, if
you are in the market to buy a used vehicle,
and let me tell you with the price of these
cars nowaday, if you're buying a used vehicle, man, you
really really need to get it inspected by your mechanic,
(02:46):
a mechanic or by me anybody that needs to put
somebody needs to look at this vehicle.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Okay, these cars have.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
A lot.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Of you know, components that can easily and can be
very very expensive.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Okay, Now, if you're like, well, Dan, you know, I'm
looking at a car and it's coming from Florida or
Georgia or whatever, you know, you've got to think about
find a shop down there near that place where it's being,
where it's coming from, and get it inspected. To find
a reputable shop and wherever it's coming from and get
it inspected. Now, we at Donovan's, we typically will it
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depends on the you know, depends on the age. It
depends on the mileage of course. Right, So if you've
got a car that's twenty years old and two hundred
thousand miles, we're gonna typically charge you more simply because
we're gonna we're gonna have to spend a lot more
time post a car that's one year old and it's
thirteen thousand miles on it, Right, you need to be
And just because it's a newer vehicle with less miles
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does not mean it's not a headache or doesn't mean
that it's got problems, right because a lot of times,
you know, these cars can get wrecked, and these can
get damaged and you know, you could be buying somebody
else's problems, right, classic, classic example. I had a young
lady that was buying a vehicle that was a pre owned, certified,
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pre owned, certified right lexus right, and so it's good.
It was certified up to one hundred thousand miles. Well,
guess what I found out that she brought it in
regardless they had low miles. I think they wanted forty
or fifty thousand dollars for this vehicle and it was
low miles, wanted to haven't inspected anyways, we looked at
it and go and I did inspect it, and sure enough,
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I noticed that a lot of the components in the
front end weren't factor they weren't normal.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
There.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
You could see there was a shift in some of
the material, the bumper and stuff like that. So, come
to find out it was wrecked at the dealership. It
was wrecked the whole front end. I think I think
she's I think it was like eleven thousand dollars worth
of damage to the front end of this vehicle. And
they're selling this thing as a pre owned, certified v
vehicle and it wasn't. And uh, they did all kinds
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of damage, it wasn't originally it had been wrecked. And
a lot of us sometimes will you know, we get
we get complacent, right, we say, oh, well the car
facts showed no accident report. Well it doesn't. That doesn't
necessarily mean it wasn't an accident. Okay, you know, point
in case, uh, my vehicle. You know, if I wreck
my vehicle right and uh, or you wreck your vehicle
(05:27):
and you've got a buddy that's gonna fix it for
you on the side and doesn't run everything through.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Car facts, it's not going to be on there.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
So you got to be you know, make sure, especially
in today's vehicles, if you're buying a used vehicle, it's
imperative and it's important that you get it inspected.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
I feel like we.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Don't talk about this enough. I feel like it's something that, like,
you know, because we get I get the phone call
all the time. Do you guys look at cars before
you before I buy use one? Absolutely? And whether you
bring it to Donovan's or you bring it to your
mechanic or if you're you know, listening from you know,
really anywhere. Any time you're buying a used vehicle, you
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need to get it inspected.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
By a reputable mechanic.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
The other thing that I want to talk about real
quick too, is if you're buying a new vehicle, Okay,
there is an option to buy it like an extended
factory warranty.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Okay, that is okay.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
If you're buying a new vehicle and you haven't your
they have an option for an extended factory warranty.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
If you have the ability to in the in the
money to do it, buy it. Okay. It will save
you money down the road, especially with these new cars.
If you're buying a used vehicle with a after market
warranty listeners, factory warranty or after market warranty. If you're
buying a used vehicle with a after market warranty, do
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not buy it. Okay, do not buy it. Uh Now,
you can buy the car, but do not buy the
after market warranty. They are not.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
It's it's in my opinion, criminal, what they do to people.
They leave you to believe that, hey, if anything breaks
on this car, you're going to be covered. And I've
seen it time and time again. They run people through
the ringers on these things and you don't get your
money back. So again, if you're buying a new vehicle
and they have an availability. If you have the availability,
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buy a factory warranty, go ahead, and if you can
afford it, go ahead and do it.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Okay, because it's a factory warranty. But if you're buying
a used vehicle again and it's an after market warranty,
I don't care who it is. I don't care what
the name of the company is. I don't care what
they promise.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
You.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Do not buy it. Take that money that they want
to charge you. Let's just say that after market warranties,
I don't know, five thousand dollars. Take that money and
put it and invest it. Okay.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
I can assure you you'll get way more for your
money if you invest it than buy the after market warranty.
Because everybody is duped to think that this is going
to take care of you and everything that breaks on
this car is going to be fixed, and I'm telling
you they don't. I see it time and time again
and again. In my opinion, it's criminal what they charge,
what they do to people.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
And we don't even.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
We don't even work with any of those companies because
they spent, they waste so much time and money and
your money really and uh they're headache. So please, if
you're buying a used vehicle, do not buy an aftermarket
war tis all right again, taking your phone calls.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
I'm gonna call five one three hundred. Let's go to
the phones. We've got Jim. Hey, Jim, welcome to the
car show can Out.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
I finally got ahold of I want to I'm going
to talk to you about the oil uses problem with
high Miles's vehicles. Yeah, my wife is a twenty elevent
toyat to row Out four, a wonderful car. I've got
one hundred and eighty seven thousand miles on it, and
uh they recommend five W twenty oil. So that's and
(09:01):
I babies to death, it's like now, and then starts
to use it the court. My wife goes it used
to she she knows I to check your tars and
all that, and and she says it's court. Well again
I looked at that. Well, so I got about a
quart of five W thirty and put in it and
slows it down and still use oil. So I put
(09:22):
a blobl STP and and then don't use oil anymore.
It don't the rings are wore out.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
What what did what did you put in it?
Speaker 4 (09:33):
STP?
Speaker 2 (09:37):
So you put so the STP? What what was it?
Speaker 5 (09:42):
Just?
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Was it an additive or was it actual STP oil.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Or it's STP. It's thickened oil.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Okay, all right, okay.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Used to be in a can who had a zip
top on it that now it's in a plastic bottle.
But anyway, it don't use oil anymore.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Really really huh, I mean, what what's the what what
is the oil that the STP? What's the what is
the discossy of it?
Speaker 5 (10:11):
It's real thing.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
If you you put it, take a screwdriver sticking it there,
and you cannot hold it. Cannot hold that screwdriver with
that stuff that's slick. Wow d I drag raced all
my life, and uh this one guy used school all
the way around the country. He gets four or five
hundred thousand miles out of it an engine, and and
(10:34):
I said, what do you do? He said, Well, every
time I changed the oil, he said, I put two
cansa STP in it. Engine last for a long time.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
And that's all I have to say.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Well, I will look into that.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Okay, Well, thanks.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
Pleasure, thank you, and I'll tell you what.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
I administrated those aftermarket warnings for years. They do everything
they can, everything they can. They'll say, well, I didn't
get a cop you this. Let me have to copy
of that. And because they didn't beat me, he's gonna
see yet some places won't even mess with them.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
I don't. I don't mess with him. They're they're a nightma.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
They but they tell people the tumper to bump or warm.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
That's only a grand new car.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
But they tell them that. They think everything's free. I know,
but I'll tell you it was a pleasure speaking to you.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
All right, And I know, ye, all right, thank you,
But yeah, we getting a little bit of feedback there.
But yeah, so listen, I'm here to tell you, just
like Jim was saying, uh, two things and this is
a great and we talked about this all the time
on the show.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Is listen. Uh. Oil consumption is a very very common
problem on most of these vehicles.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
And I just had a customer not too long ago
and he goes, hey, I'm going through a quart of
oil every every thousand miles, and and we're like, yeah,
well that's pretty common. And you could just see the
the look on his face. He's like he just wasn't
having it, and he just was like, there's no way
this car's burning oil. I'm like, man, we do a
lot of it. That's that's the other thing is is
burning oil. And we talk about this all the time
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on the show. But I wanted to talk again, you know,
I was watching that gentleman on social media and I
just you know, I wanted to emphasize to you, especially
with the costs of these new these used vehicles, right,
they're expensive. Right, it's the second most expensive, you know,
item you're going to have other than your house.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Right, you want to make sure you take care of it.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
So if you're buying again, if you were when you
buy a house, what do we do We get it
inspected by somebody, Right, same thing. If you're buying a
used vehicle, you need to get it inspected by a
mechanic to protect you because again it can be it'll
save you a lot of money and a lot of
headache if you get it inspected. So a lot of
times we don't talk about it, and I kind of
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want to emphasize on that today is it's something that
should be done. So all right, the phones are lighting up.
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Speaker 2 (13:50):
Uh, listen, the phones are lighting up. I really do
appreciate it. Again.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
I was a bit busy in the past two weeks,
but I am back and should be here for quite
some time, so I really do appreciate it. So again
the number call five one three seven, five hundred. Let's
go back to the phone. So we've got Opie. Hey, Obi, welcome,
welcome to show.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
I can help, welcome back. And I'm going to tell
you right now, enjoy them young is while you can,
because they grew up too fast.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
I know, man, I my daughter, I just I just
had I just had.
Speaker 5 (14:20):
A grand baby about six weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
So well, congratulations, thought he had.
Speaker 9 (14:24):
My daughter gave me a grand baby, you know, but
you know, two weeks ago I taught her how to drive.
So talking about them pre hit the pre purchase inspections.
My wife's O seven f two fifty that I bought
out of eighten years ago. Found a really good deal
on it.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
It was a truck out of Texas, low miles, but
it was all the way up by Cleveland. We drove
up there and I called a Ford dealer, took it
over to Ford dealer. They charged me seventy five bucks.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Okay, they went over this thing.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
And and now mind you it's a six to oh,
which you know, six o's were no terris or popping
the head studs.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 9 (15:04):
So the shop that had it, they had that in
order to change the head studs, you have to pull
the cab and the doghouse.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Off mm hmm. Yeah, you got to pull the whole.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
They did the headstud bulletproofed.
Speaker 9 (15:15):
It did everything that Ford should have done to begin with. Well,
I took it over to this Ford dealer and they
looked at it and they said, the radiator's leaking. And
they said, that's a twenty five hundred dollars job to
put a.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
Radiator in this thing.
Speaker 9 (15:27):
And they said, oh, by the way, the bearings and
the turbo were on their way out. Took it back
to the place where we were buying it from I
and I gave them a report from the Ford dealer
and I said, YO, want to fix this or the
you know, the deal's over with And they said, well,
you know what, we can't sell that if we don't
fix it.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
They fixed it.
Speaker 9 (15:45):
We still got it for the same price and down the.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
Road we went.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Yeah, you know, And that's a great, great point. And
I tell my customers this all the time. You know,
when you're doing when you what how what you do
is when you're looking at a U vehicle and you
get it inspected in your mechanic or whoever you take
it to find something wrong with it. It gives you
the upper hand. It gives you the leverage. Right, so
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if they find these problems, right, you can go back
there and say, hey, can you fix these things?
Speaker 2 (16:15):
I'll buy the truck. Can you fix these things?
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Or can you take it off the price of the truck,
because I'm gonna have to turn around and spend you know,
another you know, five thousand or twenty five hundred dollars
like you said, another twenty five hundred dollars to.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Fix this radiator. Can you take the price? Can you
take it the price off the car or the truck,
or can you fix it?
Speaker 5 (16:31):
They not only replaced the radiator, they also replaced the turbot.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Which that that was probably another that was probably five
grand there too.
Speaker 9 (16:41):
Yeah. Yeah, so so it worked out, I mean, and
it wouldn't look it wasn't like I took a scooter's garage, right,
you know. I mean I took it to the Ford
dealer and they had that thing for three hours, and
like I said, they were churching seventy five bucks, and
they gave me a laundry list of stuff.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
You know, there was a few connectors that weren't plugged
in from where they had the cab off of it
and all that stuff, which they fix some of that
and as they found it, and then you know, they
gave me a laundry listen, and you know, and they said, well, yeah,
we'll fix it. We'll do the deal, come back in
a week and pick it up. My wife, my wife
and my mom went up there and picked it up
and brought it back.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I mean, it's it's a great example.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
And again, you know a lot of people to think that, hey,
if you're buying a car from a used car lot
or a deal even a dealership, you're buying a used
car from, then you like, oh, it should be in
good mechanical No, these people are I'm sorry, but they're salesmen.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
They're just their job is there are three people.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
There are three people that don't trust politicians, lawyers, and
car salesman.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
And not necessarily in that order, right right, right, yeah,
and listen, I'll I'll let.
Speaker 9 (17:50):
You take some other calls.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
I figure out half that.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Man. I appreciate it. You have a great weekend. You
can uh.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
So again when you're buying a vehicle used or from
a dealership. It doesn't really matter because a lot of people, well,
I'm buying it from a dealership, so it should be good.
That does not always mean the case. That's not always
the case. And again, I'm not picking on used car salesmen.
I'm not picking on used car lots. These people their
job is to sell cars. They're not mechanics, right, And
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again I'm not picking on I'm not saying that they're
trying to deceive you. I'm not saying that that that
everybody's just dishonest. I'm just saying, if you're buying something,
especially with the cost of today's cars, make sure you
get it inspected.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
And again, I'm not.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Saying that they're trying to pull the wool over your
eyes and you're you know, they're just trying to sell you,
you know, uh, you know, a piece of crap. I'm
just saying, get it inspected. Again, their job, they're not mechanics.
They don't look at these cars when they're selling these cars.
They don't pop the hood, they don't get it up
on the on the lift and take a look at it.
They don't know what they're looking at right. Their job
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is just to sell the car, it's not to find
out if there's anything wrong with it. So again it's
imperative it's important that you get it inspected. And again,
let me reiterate, do not buy an aftermark or warranty period.
So all right, let's go back to the phones. We've
got Jim. Hey, Jim, welcome to the car show.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
How can I help?
Speaker 6 (19:14):
Hi?
Speaker 3 (19:14):
How you doing?
Speaker 2 (19:16):
I'm good?
Speaker 5 (19:16):
How are you good?
Speaker 4 (19:18):
Good?
Speaker 5 (19:19):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (19:20):
I've got a twenty three four Runner that we bought recently,
and I was just wondering as far as buying RUSS
protection from I turn it down at the dealership. But
like z Bart's been around here forever and so forth,
I know these things, these vehicles today are better protected,
(19:42):
you know, as they're built from rush and whatnot. But
what's your opinion on the z Barts of the world
out there in terms of added rust protection?
Speaker 7 (19:55):
You know what?
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Great question? Great question. So and listen, I had this
conversation with my brother earlier this week. I said, you know,
we were talking about a car and my truck actually,
because my older truck and it's just so rusted. I'm like, well,
you know, we live in the Roust Belt here, and yeah,
everything that's out there, you know, with the the Brian
they put down the salt and everything that we deal with.
(20:18):
It's something that should we can talk about now. I
think with it being a twenty three, how many miles
are on it?
Speaker 3 (20:29):
We bought it with five thousand. I was a demo,
so I want to say it's got seven on it now?
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Okay? All right?
Speaker 1 (20:35):
And does I think there's some factors that we need
to think about here? What part it says you're in Alexandria, Kentucky.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:45):
And is this vehicle does it stay? Is it going
to be outside its entire life? Or is a garage
capt garage? Okay?
Speaker 1 (20:54):
So I think if a vehicle, if a vehicle is
staying outside its whole life, I think it's something that
you should look into. If it's being garage kept, I
don't think that. And it's been Is this a daily
driver for you? Yes?
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (21:13):
The I see a lot of cars that come in
that have the Z bar on it there and they're
protected or whatnot. I think, if you're gonna do it,
I'm not against it. If you're gonna do it, I
would do it sooner than later. Here's and here's why
sometimes when they when once they spray that stuff a
lot of.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Times too, it just traps if there's already run.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Like if you've got a car that's ten years old
and you want to do it, I would not recommend
it because all you do is just trap it. You know,
you just trap the water and you trap it in there,
and then in my opinion, you're not really blocking it,
you're justcapsulating it. But then it continues to continue to russ.
So yeah, on the on the four Runner, though, I
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would have to have to look at it, because the
older four Runners and the older Tundras and.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Da Kumba's men. I tell you what I've seen.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
I can't tell you how many of those cars I've
come that have come into my shop with the frames
rotted out on it. I think Toyota, oh yeah, it's
a massive problem, massive problem. And yeah, you know, and
they did honor some of the frames and replacing some
of the frames, but not all of them. I think
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that Toyota has gotten away from that. I would have
to because again with it being a twenty three, I'd
have to look at it.
Speaker 9 (22:33):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
I don't think it's a bad thing. But here here
hear me out on this too. When you when they
do that, you know, they hit all those bolts and
everything like that. So if there's in the fuel lines
and and brake lines and everything like that. So going
down the road, if you have to remove those bolts,
well you can't get a you know, a socket on
it because the bolts just covered in that that z
Bart stuff.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
So yeah, you know, I'm not against it.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
I just if you're gonna drive it and keep it
in the garage, if you're gonna drive it daily, keep
it in the garage, I don't.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
I wouldn't do it. I'd leave it the way it was.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Well, what's the difference of leaving it in the garage.
I mean we're still gonna drive it on the assalted
road and then pull it in the garage versus leaving
it in the driveway.
Speaker 9 (23:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Correct, But here here, because what happens is when it
sits outside. Okay, that moisture that's on the blacktop or
on the concrete, that moisture obviously, when it evaporates, it rises, right,
so it goes up and it just collects there.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Right, So if it sits in the garage, obviously.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
The frame or whatnot's gonna drip and whatnot, And yes,
that water will evaporate, but it's it's not exposed to
the elements the way it is if it sits outside.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Yeah, I mean I had I had a most.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Correct and I had a gentleman that had a ninety
his unfortunately his parents passed away. It was like a
ninety seven Cadillac and had like thirty thousand miles on it, right,
This thing sat outside whole life. It was a ninety cent.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
This was I don't know, probably about five years ago, right,
so it was pretty old cars, twenty years old something
like that. And you know, he's like, I said, man,
this thing is an absolute rusted mess.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
You need to get roaded. And he's like, well, it's
only got thirty thousand miles. I'm like, I understand that.
But it sat outside on the blacktop outside its entire life,
and it's a rusted mess. Now, if you've got a
car that's sitting in a garage for that amount of time,
it's not getting that exposure to the elements of the weather.
So it's really that's really key, is keeping a car
(24:34):
in a garage that's how you're gonna get the longevity
out of a vehicle. So I think with the age
of it, and again I would have to see it
to this. I don't know if Toyota has got away
some of these, I mean they still have a frame.
But I just I wouldn't do it. Yeah. Let let's
(24:54):
let's put it this way.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
If I buy a new vehicle, I'm not gonna do it.
I just I don't like covering all that stuff up
because if there's any type of repair that needs to
be done down the road, you've you've kind of just
created another problem. So yeah, so but I mean, you know,
again I'm not against it, but I just I'm not
(25:17):
going to do it to my I don't do it
to my vehicle.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
So what about do you have an opinion on you know,
they've got paint protection and different types of that. You
know where they put.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Up the ceramic coding.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Yeah, I would do that, Yeah, absolutely. Uh the ceramic
coating I would do. Uh. I mean some of your
kind of your local car washes will offer some type
of ceramic it's not really a ceramic coding, Like you
need to take it to a professional and have it done.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Now it's pretty pricey.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
But yes, I mean as far as the paint goes,
I think, especially with the debris and rocks and salt
and everything like that.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yeah, protect the paint because it can be.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Bodywork is very expensive, but I would do I would
recommend that the z bart. I just again, I'm you know,
I don't have a problem with it, but I just
wouldn't do it to my own vehicle.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
So okay, all right, well that helps a lot.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
All right, thanks, all right, you're welcome to take care.
So you know the thing is too and and I'm
going back to the whole get the car inspected. Right,
You look at these cars and the top, you know,
the rest of the whole body is oh man, this
car is great. The inside's perfect. Whatnot? The problem is
you get it up in the air. It's a whole
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nother story.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
And I time and time again, I'll get these cars
that come into our shop to get inspected, get them
up in the air, and they do look great.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
You get them up in the air and they're an
absolute rusted mess.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
And come to find out if they come from Michigan,
you know, Northern Ohio, New York, you know up all
those again, northern states. These things are absolute rusted messes.
They are messes, and it creates a tremendous amount of problems. Right.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
So again, if you're going back to buying a used
vehicle and it is out of state, you want the
Southern States, you want Georgia, Florida, Texas, somewhere like that,
because it's not exposed to all the elements of the
salt and the brine and everything else they put in
the streets these nowadays up here in the in the north.
So that's it's important too. Just because the interior is
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perfect and the exterior is perfect and it looks great
underneath tells a whole other story, right, So it's something
to think about when you're buying a used vehicle. So
I thought Jim's questions were great.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
So and again, if you're if your car is twenty
years old, and and you're not familiar with z bar
z Bart kind of basically encapsulate capsulizes and and and
supposed to prevent the rust from getting any worse. Right,
But what happens though, too, is it also traps the
moisture and the water in there too if if it's
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not done perfectly.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Well, okay, now, I've seen some jobs that are done well.
I've seen some jobs that are done horribly. And you
want to make sure that if you do want to
do it, you make sure one the car is fairly new,
and then two you want to make sure that you
find a reputable guy that can do it. All right.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Again, I'm not too familiar with who's the best in
the Cincinnati area, the Tristate area that can do.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
It, but it is an option for you.
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Michael has been patiently waiting. Hey Michael, welcome to the
car show. How can I help?
Speaker 5 (29:25):
Well? You and I spoke a couple of weeks ago
about my twenty twenty passbinder about the alternator. You remember
that because I called followed up with your shop and
I think you were correct. But however it went out
again and I had to have it towed. As a
matter of fact, TRIPAA said this is your fifth toe.
You're not getting any more toes. So I did actually
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take it to the place I go out here in
East Kate, Ohio, and they said, no, you need to
take it to the dealership. And it turns out it
was the alternator. Now I haven't said that, And if
you remember, I told you I had about one thousand
miles left for the warranty, the extended warranty after purchased
went out. Yeah, and believe it or not, the car
(30:08):
went out, it got fixed, and uh, my deductible was
one hundred dollars and that's what I paid for a
fifteen dollars alternator was one hundred dollars deductible. So they
actually I've had other extended warranties where they're idiots, like
you said, okay, but for whatever reason, and I'll tell
(30:28):
you the insurance company with a fidelity warranty. And I
purchased this car from over On loving themgear road hurts
run a car when it went out of business because
they were giving away these cars. But it actually it
actually it actually worked. So I was like, I was
totally shocked too, but it actually worked that I only
paid one hundred dollars deductible to have the entire alternator replaced.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Well, I mean that's that's great, and that's absolutely great.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
And you know, and listen, I you know, when I
was working with these companies, like I said, I don't
do I just don't do bus with them anymore because it's.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
An absolute headache.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
But what what they do typically is they say, hey, listen,
we don't we don't pay any diagnostic we don't pay
any shop supply fees, we don't pay any taxes, we
don't pay what's your labor rate? And you're like, you
know labor rates one hundred bucks, Well, we only pay
fifty dollars an hour, right, And then what happens is
and then and then if it's a big repair like yours,
(31:26):
typically they'll sit there and go, well, we need to
send our own guy out there to basically diagnose it
and make sure that you know what you're doing. So
then you're waiting two or three days for somebody to
come out and verify that yes, the car does need
the alternator, and then you know, all in all, what
I see primarily is is like, okay, well we'll pay
(31:46):
the job's fifteen hundred dollars, right, but we'll pay seven
hundred and fifty. And I just don't I don't think
that's I don't think that's right. I mean in your case,
I mean that's great.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
And who who was the company through, Well, it's.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
Through Fidelity, and who I took it to was my
and I'll tell you dealership and Escape and it was
like okay, yeah, yeah, we've got disapproved. I was like, wow, okay,
but it was. The cool thing is they had my
car for a week, so they gave me a courtesy car.
So I had one of these little the kicks. I
(32:22):
don't know, We've got like nine million miles to the gas.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
Yeah, helped me.
Speaker 5 (32:27):
Five bucks to fill it up. So I was like, still,
I like my Pathfinder. Okay, I like this little bigger vehicles,
a little more metal around me. But I was I
was shocked that they did it, but it was fidelity
and it was I loved them. In Deer from the
Hurts rent a car that used to be there. You
know what I'm talking about, right, Yeah, So I was like,
(32:49):
I mean they were giving these cars away. And in
twenty twenty, I got a twenty twenty Pathfinder for twenty
three thousand dollars. And I typically do not get extended warranties,
but that little magnum p I voice, if you remember
that going off, like you know, you get this car
almost from nothing, why don't you just go ahead and
(33:11):
get it?
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (33:12):
And like I said, like we talked a couple of
weeks ago, it was right before the warranty expired, and
I was like, I don't even know if you're going
to cover this, but they went ahead and covered it.
I was totally shocked.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Yeah that's I mean, that's that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
And like I said, I have seen I have seen
people where it does work out for him, but nine
out of ten times it doesn't. But in your case,
it worked out for you. I'm I'm I'm I'm happy
for you, man. So that's good.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
No, I agree. I agree with you because I've got
extensive warranty on other cars that I've owned, and they're like, God, no,
this isn't covered, this isn't covered, this isn't covered, this
isn't cover.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
I'm like, for real, Yeah, okay, yeah, I had I
had a customer one time that has a Chevy or
I can't remember what kind of car it was, but anyways,
he needed a compressor, right, and so if you had
to find detail, says a C compressor's covered, right, So
call them up, call the insurance company and they're like, yep,
it's ac compressor.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
It's bad.
Speaker 9 (34:08):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Is like is it covered? Yep, it's covered.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
I was all right, We're like, why what's wrong with
the compressor? Said, well, it's it's I said, it's leaking
out of the front seal. The A C compressor and
they're like, oh, that's not covered. I said, the compressor's covered, yeah,
but the front seal is not.
Speaker 5 (34:24):
Really, so you got to replace?
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Is like, well, I have to replace the whole compressor
to replace the seal. Yep. Front.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
In the fine print it said the front seal wasn't covered,
but everything else was.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
And I'm like, man, that's that that ain't that's not right.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
Yeah, that's petty. That's petty.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
So you know, so the customer still had to pay
twelve hundred dollars for a compressor because the front seal
was leaking. And again, listen, they've got lawyers, they've got
you know, they've got people writing, writing all this stuff out,
and they've got this stuff all figured out. And I
just feel that it's it's it's just very deceiving to
the general public. So that's kind of why I I
(35:00):
get turned off, just turn off from it. But again,
I guess it can work in some people. If you
do have one out there and you're like, oh, shoot,
I shouldn't have bought it, it can work out in
your benefit, especially in your case.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
It can work out. But if you can.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Avoid doing it, I would because it's a whole bunch
of record. And again in your case, so if you
would have brought it to my shop and I had
it for a week, I wouldn't have the ability to
give you a loaner car, right, so you'd be without
a car for an entire week, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
So that's the other side.
Speaker 5 (35:31):
We have three cars. We have three car we have
an extra car. As a matter of fact, my wife's
driving it now. But I'm sitting here looking at it.
It it says it Telvie paid seventy two cents, the
labor was nine to ninety nine point seventy five and
the part for a three seventy two point oh seven.
So yeah, I was like, and why I got you
(35:53):
on the phone. Let me ask you another question about
break fluids because they have you on telephone. I was, Oh,
because when they check my car, it was like, you've
got a little coloring going on your brake fluid. I
guess it's copper. I think, is that what they call it?
Copper or where where it's not your traditional red brake fluid.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Well, the break fluid, the brake fluid should look the
break fluid should look like yellowish it should look like
apple juice.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
Okay, okay, so and it's actually.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
A little it's actually lighter than that.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
But when it starts getting darker or starting to look
like apple juice or darker colored, it should be changed.
So I mean typically most manufacturers recommend every two years
that it should be that it should be changed. And listen, uh,
we do it at our shop. You know, break fluid
absorbs moisture.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Over time, you'll get a fading pedal because that moisture. Obviously,
you know again it's.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Are you gonna have some type of catastrophic failure if
you don't do it? No, But if you want to
up keep your car, you want to keep it going,
and you want to have a more responsive brake pedal
and prolong the hoses.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
And the calipers and that thing, you should you should
change it.
Speaker 5 (37:11):
But you know again, all my vehicles, all my vehicles
get oil changes with synthetic as five thousand miles of less.
That's I don't play around with vehicles. So and I
will caution, I'm gonna throw this out there. I'm not
advocating or they're going against anybody, but I was told
(37:32):
that my fog when they brought it in, they did
a service check off. Yeah, video and service it. But
then they the service guy was like, your fog lights
don't work. I was like, really when I brought it in,
they work, but I checked them night before last. I'm like,
I said, you had my fog lights turned off instead
(37:53):
of turned on. So they wanted to replace my fog lights. Yeah,
so buyer beware I on that one. Yeah yeah, yeah,
but I want to follow up with you. But it
actually turned out to be the alternator and you and
I we paid two discussions on this.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Prior to this, so well I do remember. I do
remember it so well. Great man, that's awesome. I'm glad
it worked out for you. So I appreciate the phone call.
Speaker 5 (38:21):
All right, man, a great day.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
All right you too, Bye bye. All right again, taking
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Speaker 1 (39:06):
Welcome back, taking your car questions and then imber to
call five one, three, seven four nine fifty five hundred.
We are running out of time, so I want to
go back to the phones as quickly as we can.
We've got Bill, Hey, Bill, welcome to the car show.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
How can I help? Thank you for patiently waiting.
Speaker 7 (39:21):
No, you're welcome, Thanks for taking a call.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Sure, how can I help? I picked up.
Speaker 7 (39:27):
Ninety four Chevy truck. You know, I'm going to try
to restore it, and it's been sitting with gas in
it for our how many years? And I just want
to get your opinion the best way to get the
double gas out? Would it be the take the fuel
filter off and let it pump out? Or somebody suggested
taking it off with the fuel in Jackson, you know,
(39:50):
in the engine, and let the relay pump it out
or I'm not sure which way here.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Yeah, we said you wanted to restore it.
Speaker 7 (40:01):
Yeah, I mean it's a full sized truck and I
don't see too many of those around anymore.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
No, No, you don't know how long? How long has
the truck been sitting?
Speaker 5 (40:07):
How long?
Speaker 2 (40:08):
How old do you think the gas is?
Speaker 7 (40:11):
I would say about four or five years maybe a little.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Oh, there's nothing worse than the smell of stale gas.
Speaker 7 (40:19):
I di scorted before I had a toad, and then
once I gave a gas that died and haven't been
able to start it since.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Man, Well, typically I mean you could you could, you know,
take the line off at the one of the lines
off at the fuel filter and just pump it all out.
You could do that, I mean the way we would
do it at my shopping. You may not be able
to do this, but what we would typically do is
and the easiest way to do it is we would
(40:47):
take the bed off the frame. And again typically most
trucks there's three there's six bolts that hold there's three
on each side of that frame that that hold that
that bed in there. Typically that's what we would do
is we would just you know, and the beds are
(41:08):
really really light. I mean, it usually only takes about
two maybe three guys just take those six bolts out
and lift that bed off, that off that frame, and
then the tank is right there. And then it's got
a plastic most likely, well it's a ninety four, so
it's got probably a metal locker ring.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
You just take a screwdriver or a chisel, and a
screwdriver would be recommended.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
You don't want any sparks, and you want to knock
that locking ring off and just pull that pump out,
suck it out. I mean, I think that would be
the best, but again that's a lot of work. I mean,
you could take it off of the fuel filter and
have it pump out, but the pump could be bad too,
where it's not gonna pump out, you know what I mean?
Speaker 7 (41:52):
Yeah, you got a point there. Would that be better
sitting and dropping the tank?
Speaker 2 (41:56):
No, I wouldn't know.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
Because those straps the typically the straps are completely severely rusted.
The bolts that hold the straps in are severely rusted,
and they typically will break off and you can't get
the straps off, and where the bolts for the bed
you can get out.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
I've never ever ever had a problem.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
Getting the bed bolts out, always have a problem getting
the fuel tank straps.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
So I would not drop the tank. It would be easier.
If you're gonna drop the tank, don't just take the
bed off.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
But if the pump is working, yeah, obviously get a
bucket or pail or something underneath it.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
And try to pump it out. But man, back in
those days, I mean GM and Ford were notorious for
bad fuel pumps. But you could try it. Yeah. And
then the other thing though, too, is if that fuel
filter itself, that line, the nut that screws into that filter,
if it's all rusted, right, it's all rusted, it will
come off.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
Then you can't get it off. Then you you know,
break the fuel line, and then you're not gonna be
able to get fuel lines for it, and it could
open up a can of worms.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
Uh. I would probably just take the bed off, make
it a Saturday project.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
Take the it's six bolts, I mean most trucks have
just three bolts on each side of the frame. Yes,
it would require a little bit more work, but you're
taking that bed off, you're gonna restore it anyways, take
that bet off. The pump is right there. It would
make your life so much easier by going that route.
That's the way I would do it. And I'd siphon
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it out that way.
Speaker 7 (43:36):
Oh ken, instead of siving it through the pillar tube
as well. And you know they get those pump and
pumps that siphon it out.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
So most most I don't on a ninety four, I'm
not sure, but most vehicles they've got like a like
a ball that's in the filler neck. So if the
if the truck was to flip over, the gas doesn't
pour out of there, and so people can't siphon the
gas out of it. On a ninety four or probably
you probably still can't siphon the gas out of it.
I'm not quite sure.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
I know on these newer cars, most of the cars
that are out there today, they've got a ball that
won't allow so if again, if the car does tip,
the gas doesn't pour out of it. You know, yeah,
so I mean you can you can try. There's a
it's on Amazon. There's a pump. It's like a manual pump.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
It's just got a little marble at the end of it,
but you would run it down there and then you
just shake it and it. Man, the things you can
get them for like they're cheap. I don't want to say,
like twenty six bucks. You can try to siphon it
out that way, but I think the best way would
be just take the bed off the frame and and.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
And go that route.
Speaker 7 (44:48):
So all right, it wouldn't have been good to change
that silter anyway, and it.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
Would be absolutely it would be, but I would I
would recommend if you're gonna do it, you make I
would get some PB blast or some WT forty and
so get some some type of penetrating oil, and you
soak that thing for a couple of days. Soak it,
let it try to work its way in there, so
you don't, you know, get one of those lines that's
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all rusted and and and create a headache for you.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
So hey, listen, I gotta go. I really do appreciate it.
Thanks for holding all right, all right, take care, Brandy,
I apologize.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
Please call me back next Saturday. I'll be back to
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Everybody. Have a great weekend.
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Last week wasn't too great but uh but uh anyways, Hey,
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It's something that I feel like in the industry, most
people don't think about or talk about. But man, if
you are in the market to buy a used vehicle,
and let me tell you with the price of these
cars nowaday, if you're buying a used vehicle, man, you
really really need to get it inspected by your mechanic,
(02:46):
a mechanic or by me anybody that needs to put
somebody needs to look at this vehicle.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Okay, these cars have.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
A lot.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Of you know, components that can easily and can be
very very expensive.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Okay, Now, if you're like, well, Dan, you know, I'm
looking at a car and it's coming from Florida or
Georgia or whatever, you know, you've got to think about
find a shop down there near that place where it's being,
where it's coming from, and get it inspected. To find
a reputable shop and wherever it's coming from and get
it inspected. Now, we at Donovan's, we typically will it
(03:27):
depends on the you know, depends on the age. It
depends on the mileage of course. Right, So if you've
got a car that's twenty years old and two hundred
thousand miles, we're gonna typically charge you more simply because
we're gonna we're gonna have to spend a lot more
time post a car that's one year old and it's
thirteen thousand miles on it, Right, you need to be
And just because it's a newer vehicle with less miles
(03:51):
does not mean it's not a headache or doesn't mean
that it's got problems, right because a lot of times,
you know, these cars can get wrecked, and these can
get damaged and you know, you could be buying somebody
else's problems, right, classic, classic example. I had a young
lady that was buying a vehicle that was a pre owned, certified,
(04:13):
pre owned, certified right lexus right, and so it's good.
It was certified up to one hundred thousand miles. Well,
guess what I found out that she brought it in
regardless they had low miles. I think they wanted forty
or fifty thousand dollars for this vehicle and it was
low miles, wanted to haven't inspected anyways, we looked at
it and go and I did inspect it, and sure enough,
(04:36):
I noticed that a lot of the components in the
front end weren't factor they weren't normal.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
There.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
You could see there was a shift in some of
the material, the bumper and stuff like that. So, come
to find out it was wrecked at the dealership. It
was wrecked the whole front end. I think I think
she's I think it was like eleven thousand dollars worth
of damage to the front end of this vehicle. And
they're selling this thing as a pre owned, certified v
vehicle and it wasn't. And uh, they did all kinds
(05:03):
of damage, it wasn't originally it had been wrecked. And
a lot of us sometimes will you know, we get
we get complacent, right, we say, oh, well the car
facts showed no accident report. Well it doesn't. That doesn't
necessarily mean it wasn't an accident. Okay, you know, point
in case, uh, my vehicle. You know, if I wreck
my vehicle right and uh, or you wreck your vehicle
(05:27):
and you've got a buddy that's gonna fix it for
you on the side and doesn't run everything through.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Car facts, it's not going to be on there.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
So you got to be you know, make sure, especially
in today's vehicles, if you're buying a used vehicle, it's
imperative and it's important that you get it inspected.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
I feel like we.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Don't talk about this enough. I feel like it's something that, like,
you know, because we get I get the phone call
all the time. Do you guys look at cars before
you before I buy use one? Absolutely? And whether you
bring it to Donovan's or you bring it to your
mechanic or if you're you know, listening from you know,
really anywhere. Any time you're buying a used vehicle, you
(06:05):
need to get it inspected.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
By a reputable mechanic.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
The other thing that I want to talk about real
quick too, is if you're buying a new vehicle, Okay,
there is an option to buy it like an extended
factory warranty.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Okay, that is okay.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
If you're buying a new vehicle and you haven't your
they have an option for an extended factory warranty.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
If you have the ability to in the in the
money to do it, buy it. Okay. It will save
you money down the road, especially with these new cars.
If you're buying a used vehicle with a after market
warranty listeners, factory warranty or after market warranty. If you're
buying a used vehicle with a after market warranty, do
(06:53):
not buy it. Okay, do not buy it. Uh Now,
you can buy the car, but do not buy the
after market warranty. They are not.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
It's it's in my opinion, criminal, what they do to people.
They leave you to believe that, hey, if anything breaks
on this car, you're going to be covered. And I've
seen it time and time again. They run people through
the ringers on these things and you don't get your
money back. So again, if you're buying a new vehicle
and they have an availability. If you have the availability,
(07:26):
buy a factory warranty, go ahead, and if you can
afford it, go ahead and do it.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Okay, because it's a factory warranty. But if you're buying
a used vehicle again and it's an after market warranty,
I don't care who it is. I don't care what
the name of the company is. I don't care what
they promise.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
You.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Do not buy it. Take that money that they want
to charge you. Let's just say that after market warranties,
I don't know, five thousand dollars. Take that money and
put it and invest it. Okay.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
I can assure you you'll get way more for your
money if you invest it than buy the after market warranty.
Because everybody is duped to think that this is going
to take care of you and everything that breaks on
this car is going to be fixed, and I'm telling
you they don't. I see it time and time again
and again. In my opinion, it's criminal what they charge,
what they do to people.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
And we don't even.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
We don't even work with any of those companies because
they spent, they waste so much time and money and
your money really and uh they're headache. So please, if
you're buying a used vehicle, do not buy an aftermarket
war tis all right again, taking your phone calls.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
I'm gonna call five one three hundred. Let's go to
the phones. We've got Jim. Hey, Jim, welcome to the
car show can Out.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
I finally got ahold of I want to I'm going
to talk to you about the oil uses problem with
high Miles's vehicles. Yeah, my wife is a twenty elevent
toyat to row Out four, a wonderful car. I've got
one hundred and eighty seven thousand miles on it, and
uh they recommend five W twenty oil. So that's and
(09:01):
I babies to death, it's like now, and then starts
to use it the court. My wife goes it used
to she she knows I to check your tars and
all that, and and she says it's court. Well again
I looked at that. Well, so I got about a
quart of five W thirty and put in it and
slows it down and still use oil. So I put
(09:22):
a blobl STP and and then don't use oil anymore.
It don't the rings are wore out.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
What what did what did you put in it?
Speaker 4 (09:33):
STP?
Speaker 2 (09:37):
So you put so the STP? What what was it?
Speaker 5 (09:42):
Just?
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Was it an additive or was it actual STP oil.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Or it's STP. It's thickened oil.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Okay, all right, okay.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Used to be in a can who had a zip
top on it that now it's in a plastic bottle.
But anyway, it don't use oil anymore.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Really really huh, I mean, what what's the what what
is the oil that the STP? What's the what is
the discossy of it?
Speaker 5 (10:11):
It's real thing.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
If you you put it, take a screwdriver sticking it there,
and you cannot hold it. Cannot hold that screwdriver with
that stuff that's slick. Wow d I drag raced all
my life, and uh this one guy used school all
the way around the country. He gets four or five
hundred thousand miles out of it an engine, and and
(10:34):
I said, what do you do? He said, Well, every
time I changed the oil, he said, I put two
cansa STP in it. Engine last for a long time.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
And that's all I have to say.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
Well, I will look into that.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Okay, Well, thanks.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
Pleasure, thank you, and I'll tell you what.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
I administrated those aftermarket warnings for years. They do everything
they can, everything they can. They'll say, well, I didn't
get a cop you this. Let me have to copy
of that. And because they didn't beat me, he's gonna
see yet some places won't even mess with them.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
I don't. I don't mess with him. They're they're a nightma.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
They but they tell people the tumper to bump or warm.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
That's only a grand new car.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
But they tell them that. They think everything's free. I know,
but I'll tell you it was a pleasure speaking to you.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
All right, And I know, ye, all right, thank you,
But yeah, we getting a little bit of feedback there.
But yeah, so listen, I'm here to tell you, just
like Jim was saying, uh, two things and this is
a great and we talked about this all the time
on the show.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Is listen. Uh. Oil consumption is a very very common
problem on most of these vehicles.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
And I just had a customer not too long ago
and he goes, hey, I'm going through a quart of
oil every every thousand miles, and and we're like, yeah,
well that's pretty common. And you could just see the
the look on his face. He's like he just wasn't
having it, and he just was like, there's no way
this car's burning oil. I'm like, man, we do a
lot of it. That's that's the other thing is is
burning oil. And we talk about this all the time
(12:07):
on the show. But I wanted to talk again, you know,
I was watching that gentleman on social media and I
just you know, I wanted to emphasize to you, especially
with the costs of these new these used vehicles, right,
they're expensive. Right, it's the second most expensive, you know,
item you're going to have other than your house.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Right, you want to make sure you take care of it.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
So if you're buying again, if you were when you
buy a house, what do we do We get it
inspected by somebody, Right, same thing. If you're buying a
used vehicle, you need to get it inspected by a
mechanic to protect you because again it can be it'll
save you a lot of money and a lot of
headache if you get it inspected. So a lot of
times we don't talk about it, and I kind of
(12:51):
want to emphasize on that today is it's something that
should be done. So all right, the phones are lighting up.
I really do appreciate taking your phone calls. The number
to call five one, three, seven, nine fifty five hundred
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Speaker 1 (13:45):
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Speaker 2 (13:50):
Uh, listen, the phones are lighting up. I really do
appreciate it. Again.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
I was a bit busy in the past two weeks,
but I am back and should be here for quite
some time, so I really do appreciate it. So again
the number call five one three seven, five hundred. Let's
go back to the phone. So we've got Opie. Hey, Obi, welcome,
welcome to show.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
I can help, welcome back. And I'm going to tell
you right now, enjoy them young is while you can,
because they grew up too fast.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
I know, man, I my daughter, I just I just
had I just had.
Speaker 5 (14:20):
A grand baby about six weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
So well, congratulations, thought he had.
Speaker 9 (14:24):
My daughter gave me a grand baby, you know, but
you know, two weeks ago I taught her how to drive.
So talking about them pre hit the pre purchase inspections.
My wife's O seven f two fifty that I bought
out of eighten years ago. Found a really good deal
on it.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
It was a truck out of Texas, low miles, but
it was all the way up by Cleveland. We drove
up there and I called a Ford dealer, took it
over to Ford dealer. They charged me seventy five bucks.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Okay, they went over this thing.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
And and now mind you it's a six to oh,
which you know, six o's were no terris or popping
the head studs.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 9 (15:04):
So the shop that had it, they had that in
order to change the head studs, you have to pull
the cab and the doghouse.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Off mm hmm. Yeah, you got to pull the whole.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
They did the headstud bulletproofed.
Speaker 9 (15:15):
It did everything that Ford should have done to begin with. Well,
I took it over to this Ford dealer and they
looked at it and they said, the radiator's leaking. And
they said, that's a twenty five hundred dollars job to
put a.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
Radiator in this thing.
Speaker 9 (15:27):
And they said, oh, by the way, the bearings and
the turbo were on their way out. Took it back
to the place where we were buying it from I
and I gave them a report from the Ford dealer
and I said, YO, want to fix this or the
you know, the deal's over with And they said, well,
you know what, we can't sell that if we don't
fix it.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
They fixed it.
Speaker 9 (15:45):
We still got it for the same price and down the.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
Road we went.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Yeah, you know, And that's a great, great point. And
I tell my customers this all the time. You know,
when you're doing when you what how what you do
is when you're looking at a U vehicle and you
get it inspected in your mechanic or whoever you take
it to find something wrong with it. It gives you
the upper hand. It gives you the leverage. Right, so
(16:09):
if they find these problems, right, you can go back
there and say, hey, can you fix these things?
Speaker 2 (16:15):
I'll buy the truck. Can you fix these things?
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Or can you take it off the price of the truck,
because I'm gonna have to turn around and spend you know,
another you know, five thousand or twenty five hundred dollars
like you said, another twenty five hundred dollars to.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Fix this radiator. Can you take the price? Can you
take it the price off the car or the truck,
or can you fix it?
Speaker 5 (16:31):
They not only replaced the radiator, they also replaced the turbot.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Which that that was probably another that was probably five
grand there too.
Speaker 9 (16:41):
Yeah. Yeah, so so it worked out, I mean, and
it wouldn't look it wasn't like I took a scooter's garage, right,
you know. I mean I took it to the Ford
dealer and they had that thing for three hours, and
like I said, they were churching seventy five bucks, and
they gave me a laundry list of stuff.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
You know, there was a few connectors that weren't plugged
in from where they had the cab off of it
and all that stuff, which they fix some of that
and as they found it, and then you know, they
gave me a laundry listen, and you know, and they said, well, yeah,
we'll fix it. We'll do the deal, come back in
a week and pick it up. My wife, my wife
and my mom went up there and picked it up
and brought it back.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I mean, it's it's a great example.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
And again, you know a lot of people to think that, hey,
if you're buying a car from a used car lot
or a deal even a dealership, you're buying a used
car from, then you like, oh, it should be in
good mechanical No, these people are I'm sorry, but they're salesmen.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
They're just their job is there are three people.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
There are three people that don't trust politicians, lawyers, and
car salesman.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
And not necessarily in that order, right right, right, yeah,
and listen, I'll I'll let.
Speaker 9 (17:50):
You take some other calls.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
I figure out half that.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Man. I appreciate it. You have a great weekend. You
can uh.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
So again when you're buying a vehicle used or from
a dealership. It doesn't really matter because a lot of people, well,
I'm buying it from a dealership, so it should be good.
That does not always mean the case. That's not always
the case. And again, I'm not picking on used car salesmen.
I'm not picking on used car lots. These people their
job is to sell cars. They're not mechanics, right, And
(18:21):
again I'm not picking on I'm not saying that they're
trying to deceive you. I'm not saying that that that
everybody's just dishonest. I'm just saying, if you're buying something,
especially with the cost of today's cars, make sure you
get it inspected.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
And again, I'm not.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Saying that they're trying to pull the wool over your
eyes and you're you know, they're just trying to sell you,
you know, uh, you know, a piece of crap. I'm
just saying, get it inspected. Again, their job, they're not mechanics.
They don't look at these cars when they're selling these cars.
They don't pop the hood, they don't get it up
on the on the lift and take a look at it.
They don't know what they're looking at right. Their job
(18:55):
is just to sell the car, it's not to find
out if there's anything wrong with it. So again it's
imperative it's important that you get it inspected. And again,
let me reiterate, do not buy an aftermark or warranty period.
So all right, let's go back to the phones. We've
got Jim. Hey, Jim, welcome to the car show.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
How can I help?
Speaker 6 (19:14):
Hi?
Speaker 3 (19:14):
How you doing?
Speaker 2 (19:16):
I'm good?
Speaker 5 (19:16):
How are you good?
Speaker 4 (19:18):
Good?
Speaker 5 (19:19):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (19:20):
I've got a twenty three four Runner that we bought recently,
and I was just wondering as far as buying RUSS
protection from I turn it down at the dealership. But
like z Bart's been around here forever and so forth,
I know these things, these vehicles today are better protected,
(19:42):
you know, as they're built from rush and whatnot. But
what's your opinion on the z Barts of the world
out there in terms of added rust protection?
Speaker 7 (19:55):
You know what?
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Great question? Great question. So and listen, I had this
conversation with my brother earlier this week. I said, you know,
we were talking about a car and my truck actually,
because my older truck and it's just so rusted. I'm like, well,
you know, we live in the Roust Belt here, and yeah,
everything that's out there, you know, with the the Brian
they put down the salt and everything that we deal with.
(20:18):
It's something that should we can talk about now. I
think with it being a twenty three, how many miles
are on it?
Speaker 3 (20:29):
We bought it with five thousand. I was a demo,
so I want to say it's got seven on it now?
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Okay? All right?
Speaker 1 (20:35):
And does I think there's some factors that we need
to think about here? What part it says you're in Alexandria, Kentucky.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:45):
And is this vehicle does it stay? Is it going
to be outside its entire life? Or is a garage
capt garage? Okay?
Speaker 1 (20:54):
So I think if a vehicle, if a vehicle is
staying outside its whole life, I think it's something that
you should look into. If it's being garage kept, I
don't think that. And it's been Is this a daily
driver for you? Yes?
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (21:13):
The I see a lot of cars that come in
that have the Z bar on it there and they're
protected or whatnot. I think, if you're gonna do it,
I'm not against it. If you're gonna do it, I
would do it sooner than later. Here's and here's why
sometimes when they when once they spray that stuff a
lot of.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Times too, it just traps if there's already run.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Like if you've got a car that's ten years old
and you want to do it, I would not recommend
it because all you do is just trap it. You know,
you just trap the water and you trap it in there,
and then in my opinion, you're not really blocking it,
you're justcapsulating it. But then it continues to continue to russ.
So yeah, on the on the four Runner, though, I
(21:55):
would have to have to look at it, because the
older four Runners and the older Tundras and.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Da Kumba's men. I tell you what I've seen.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
I can't tell you how many of those cars I've
come that have come into my shop with the frames
rotted out on it. I think Toyota, oh yeah, it's
a massive problem, massive problem. And yeah, you know, and
they did honor some of the frames and replacing some
of the frames, but not all of them. I think
(22:26):
that Toyota has gotten away from that. I would have
to because again with it being a twenty three, I'd
have to look at it.
Speaker 9 (22:33):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
I don't think it's a bad thing. But here here
hear me out on this too. When you when they
do that, you know, they hit all those bolts and
everything like that. So if there's in the fuel lines
and and brake lines and everything like that. So going
down the road, if you have to remove those bolts,
well you can't get a you know, a socket on
it because the bolts just covered in that that z
Bart stuff.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
So yeah, you know, I'm not against it.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
I just if you're gonna drive it and keep it
in the garage, if you're gonna drive it daily, keep
it in the garage, I don't.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
I wouldn't do it. I'd leave it the way it was.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Well, what's the difference of leaving it in the garage.
I mean we're still gonna drive it on the assalted
road and then pull it in the garage versus leaving
it in the driveway.
Speaker 9 (23:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Correct, But here here, because what happens is when it
sits outside. Okay, that moisture that's on the blacktop or
on the concrete, that moisture obviously, when it evaporates, it rises, right,
so it goes up and it just collects there.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Right, So if it sits in the garage, obviously.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
The frame or whatnot's gonna drip and whatnot, And yes,
that water will evaporate, but it's it's not exposed to
the elements the way it is if it sits outside.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Yeah, I mean I had I had a most.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Correct and I had a gentleman that had a ninety
his unfortunately his parents passed away. It was like a
ninety seven Cadillac and had like thirty thousand miles on it, right,
This thing sat outside whole life. It was a ninety cent.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
This was I don't know, probably about five years ago, right,
so it was pretty old cars, twenty years old something
like that. And you know, he's like, I said, man,
this thing is an absolute rusted mess.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
You need to get roaded. And he's like, well, it's
only got thirty thousand miles. I'm like, I understand that.
But it sat outside on the blacktop outside its entire life,
and it's a rusted mess. Now, if you've got a
car that's sitting in a garage for that amount of time,
it's not getting that exposure to the elements of the weather.
So it's really that's really key, is keeping a car
(24:34):
in a garage that's how you're gonna get the longevity
out of a vehicle. So I think with the age
of it, and again I would have to see it
to this. I don't know if Toyota has got away
some of these, I mean they still have a frame.
But I just I wouldn't do it. Yeah. Let let's
(24:54):
let's put it this way.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
If I buy a new vehicle, I'm not gonna do it.
I just I don't like covering all that stuff up
because if there's any type of repair that needs to
be done down the road, you've you've kind of just
created another problem. So yeah, so but I mean, you know,
again I'm not against it, but I just I'm not
(25:17):
going to do it to my I don't do it
to my vehicle.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
So what about do you have an opinion on you know,
they've got paint protection and different types of that. You
know where they put.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Up the ceramic coding.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Yeah, I would do that, Yeah, absolutely. Uh the ceramic
coating I would do. Uh. I mean some of your
kind of your local car washes will offer some type
of ceramic it's not really a ceramic coding, Like you
need to take it to a professional and have it done.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Now it's pretty pricey.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
But yes, I mean as far as the paint goes,
I think, especially with the debris and rocks and salt
and everything like that.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yeah, protect the paint because it can be.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Bodywork is very expensive, but I would do I would
recommend that the z bart. I just again, I'm you know,
I don't have a problem with it, but I just
wouldn't do it to my own vehicle.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
So okay, all right, well that helps a lot.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
All right, thanks, all right, you're welcome to take care.
So you know the thing is too and and I'm
going back to the whole get the car inspected. Right,
You look at these cars and the top, you know,
the rest of the whole body is oh man, this
car is great. The inside's perfect. Whatnot? The problem is
you get it up in the air. It's a whole
(26:37):
nother story.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
And I time and time again, I'll get these cars
that come into our shop to get inspected, get them
up in the air, and they do look great.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
You get them up in the air and they're an
absolute rusted mess.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
And come to find out if they come from Michigan,
you know, Northern Ohio, New York, you know up all
those again, northern states. These things are absolute rusted messes.
They are messes, and it creates a tremendous amount of problems. Right.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
So again, if you're going back to buying a used
vehicle and it is out of state, you want the
Southern States, you want Georgia, Florida, Texas, somewhere like that,
because it's not exposed to all the elements of the
salt and the brine and everything else they put in
the streets these nowadays up here in the in the north.
So that's it's important too. Just because the interior is
(27:28):
perfect and the exterior is perfect and it looks great
underneath tells a whole other story, right, So it's something
to think about when you're buying a used vehicle. So
I thought Jim's questions were great.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
So and again, if you're if your car is twenty
years old, and and you're not familiar with z bar
z Bart kind of basically encapsulate capsulizes and and and
supposed to prevent the rust from getting any worse. Right,
But what happens though, too, is it also traps the
moisture and the water in there too if if it's
(28:00):
not done perfectly.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Well, okay, now, I've seen some jobs that are done well.
I've seen some jobs that are done horribly. And you
want to make sure that if you do want to
do it, you make sure one the car is fairly new,
and then two you want to make sure that you
find a reputable guy that can do it. All right.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Again, I'm not too familiar with who's the best in
the Cincinnati area, the Tristate area that can do.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
It, but it is an option for you.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
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seven nine fifty five hundred. Let's go back to the phones.
Michael has been patiently waiting. Hey Michael, welcome to the
car show. How can I help?
Speaker 5 (29:25):
Well? You and I spoke a couple of weeks ago
about my twenty twenty passbinder about the alternator. You remember
that because I called followed up with your shop and
I think you were correct. But however it went out
again and I had to have it towed. As a
matter of fact, TRIPAA said this is your fifth toe.
You're not getting any more toes. So I did actually
(29:45):
take it to the place I go out here in
East Kate, Ohio, and they said, no, you need to
take it to the dealership. And it turns out it
was the alternator. Now I haven't said that, And if
you remember, I told you I had about one thousand
miles left for the warranty, the extended warranty after purchased
went out. Yeah, and believe it or not, the car
(30:08):
went out, it got fixed, and uh, my deductible was
one hundred dollars and that's what I paid for a
fifteen dollars alternator was one hundred dollars deductible. So they
actually I've had other extended warranties where they're idiots, like
you said, okay, but for whatever reason, and I'll tell
(30:28):
you the insurance company with a fidelity warranty. And I
purchased this car from over On loving themgear road hurts
run a car when it went out of business because
they were giving away these cars. But it actually it
actually it actually worked. So I was like, I was
totally shocked too, but it actually worked that I only
paid one hundred dollars deductible to have the entire alternator replaced.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Well, I mean that's that's great, and that's absolutely great.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
And you know, and listen, I you know, when I
was working with these companies, like I said, I don't
do I just don't do bus with them anymore because it's.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
An absolute headache.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
But what what they do typically is they say, hey, listen,
we don't we don't pay any diagnostic we don't pay
any shop supply fees, we don't pay any taxes, we
don't pay what's your labor rate? And you're like, you
know labor rates one hundred bucks, Well, we only pay
fifty dollars an hour, right, And then what happens is
and then and then if it's a big repair like yours,
(31:26):
typically they'll sit there and go, well, we need to
send our own guy out there to basically diagnose it
and make sure that you know what you're doing. So
then you're waiting two or three days for somebody to
come out and verify that yes, the car does need
the alternator, and then you know, all in all, what
I see primarily is is like, okay, well we'll pay
(31:46):
the job's fifteen hundred dollars, right, but we'll pay seven
hundred and fifty. And I just don't I don't think
that's I don't think that's right. I mean in your case,
I mean that's great.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
And who who was the company through, Well, it's.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
Through Fidelity, and who I took it to was my
and I'll tell you dealership and Escape and it was
like okay, yeah, yeah, we've got disapproved. I was like, wow, okay,
but it was. The cool thing is they had my
car for a week, so they gave me a courtesy car.
So I had one of these little the kicks. I
(32:22):
don't know, We've got like nine million miles to the gas.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
Yeah, helped me.
Speaker 5 (32:27):
Five bucks to fill it up. So I was like, still,
I like my Pathfinder. Okay, I like this little bigger vehicles,
a little more metal around me. But I was I
was shocked that they did it, but it was fidelity
and it was I loved them. In Deer from the
Hurts rent a car that used to be there. You
know what I'm talking about, right, Yeah, So I was like,
(32:49):
I mean they were giving these cars away. And in
twenty twenty, I got a twenty twenty Pathfinder for twenty
three thousand dollars. And I typically do not get extended warranties,
but that little magnum p I voice, if you remember
that going off, like you know, you get this car
almost from nothing, why don't you just go ahead and
(33:11):
get it?
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (33:12):
And like I said, like we talked a couple of
weeks ago, it was right before the warranty expired, and
I was like, I don't even know if you're going
to cover this, but they went ahead and covered it.
I was totally shocked.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Yeah that's I mean, that's that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
And like I said, I have seen I have seen
people where it does work out for him, but nine
out of ten times it doesn't. But in your case,
it worked out for you. I'm I'm I'm I'm happy
for you, man. So that's good.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
No, I agree. I agree with you because I've got
extensive warranty on other cars that I've owned, and they're like, God, no,
this isn't covered, this isn't covered, this isn't covered, this
isn't cover.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
I'm like, for real, Yeah, okay, yeah, I had I
had a customer one time that has a Chevy or
I can't remember what kind of car it was, but anyways,
he needed a compressor, right, and so if you had
to find detail, says a C compressor's covered, right, So
call them up, call the insurance company and they're like, yep,
it's ac compressor.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
It's bad.
Speaker 9 (34:08):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Is like is it covered? Yep, it's covered.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
I was all right, We're like, why what's wrong with
the compressor? Said, well, it's it's I said, it's leaking
out of the front seal. The A C compressor and
they're like, oh, that's not covered. I said, the compressor's covered, yeah,
but the front seal is not.
Speaker 5 (34:24):
Really, so you got to replace?
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Is like, well, I have to replace the whole compressor
to replace the seal. Yep. Front.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
In the fine print it said the front seal wasn't covered,
but everything else was.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
And I'm like, man, that's that that ain't that's not right.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
Yeah, that's petty. That's petty.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
So you know, so the customer still had to pay
twelve hundred dollars for a compressor because the front seal
was leaking. And again, listen, they've got lawyers, they've got
you know, they've got people writing, writing all this stuff out,
and they've got this stuff all figured out. And I
just feel that it's it's it's just very deceiving to
the general public. So that's kind of why I I
(35:00):
get turned off, just turn off from it. But again,
I guess it can work in some people. If you
do have one out there and you're like, oh, shoot,
I shouldn't have bought it, it can work out in
your benefit, especially in your case.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
It can work out. But if you can.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Avoid doing it, I would because it's a whole bunch
of record. And again in your case, so if you
would have brought it to my shop and I had
it for a week, I wouldn't have the ability to
give you a loaner car, right, so you'd be without
a car for an entire week, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
So that's the other side.
Speaker 5 (35:31):
We have three cars. We have three car we have
an extra car. As a matter of fact, my wife's
driving it now. But I'm sitting here looking at it.
It it says it Telvie paid seventy two cents, the
labor was nine to ninety nine point seventy five and
the part for a three seventy two point oh seven.
So yeah, I was like, and why I got you
(35:53):
on the phone. Let me ask you another question about
break fluids because they have you on telephone. I was, Oh,
because when they check my car, it was like, you've
got a little coloring going on your brake fluid. I
guess it's copper. I think, is that what they call it?
Copper or where where it's not your traditional red brake fluid.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Well, the break fluid, the brake fluid should look the
break fluid should look like yellowish it should look like
apple juice.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
Okay, okay, so and it's actually.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
A little it's actually lighter than that.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
But when it starts getting darker or starting to look
like apple juice or darker colored, it should be changed.
So I mean typically most manufacturers recommend every two years
that it should be that it should be changed. And listen, uh,
we do it at our shop. You know, break fluid
absorbs moisture.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Over time, you'll get a fading pedal because that moisture. Obviously,
you know again it's.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Are you gonna have some type of catastrophic failure if
you don't do it? No, But if you want to
up keep your car, you want to keep it going,
and you want to have a more responsive brake pedal
and prolong the hoses.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
And the calipers and that thing, you should you should
change it.
Speaker 5 (37:11):
But you know again, all my vehicles, all my vehicles
get oil changes with synthetic as five thousand miles of less.
That's I don't play around with vehicles. So and I
will caution, I'm gonna throw this out there. I'm not
advocating or they're going against anybody, but I was told
(37:32):
that my fog when they brought it in, they did
a service check off. Yeah, video and service it. But
then they the service guy was like, your fog lights
don't work. I was like, really when I brought it in,
they work, but I checked them night before last. I'm like,
I said, you had my fog lights turned off instead
(37:53):
of turned on. So they wanted to replace my fog lights. Yeah,
so buyer beware I on that one. Yeah yeah, yeah,
but I want to follow up with you. But it
actually turned out to be the alternator and you and
I we paid two discussions on this.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Prior to this, so well I do remember. I do
remember it so well. Great man, that's awesome. I'm glad
it worked out for you. So I appreciate the phone call.
Speaker 5 (38:21):
All right, man, a great day.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
All right you too, Bye bye. All right again, taking
your phone calls are run. We are running out of time,
but we do have coming up. We've got Bill and Randy.
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Speaker 1 (39:06):
Welcome back, taking your car questions and then imber to
call five one, three, seven four nine fifty five hundred.
We are running out of time, so I want to
go back to the phones as quickly as we can.
We've got Bill, Hey, Bill, welcome to the car show.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
How can I help? Thank you for patiently waiting.
Speaker 7 (39:21):
No, you're welcome, Thanks for taking a call.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Sure, how can I help? I picked up.
Speaker 7 (39:27):
Ninety four Chevy truck. You know, I'm going to try
to restore it, and it's been sitting with gas in
it for our how many years? And I just want
to get your opinion the best way to get the
double gas out? Would it be the take the fuel
filter off and let it pump out? Or somebody suggested
taking it off with the fuel in Jackson, you know,
(39:50):
in the engine, and let the relay pump it out
or I'm not sure which way here.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Yeah, we said you wanted to restore it.
Speaker 7 (40:01):
Yeah, I mean it's a full sized truck and I
don't see too many of those around anymore.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
No, No, you don't know how long? How long has
the truck been sitting?
Speaker 5 (40:07):
How long?
Speaker 2 (40:08):
How old do you think the gas is?
Speaker 7 (40:11):
I would say about four or five years maybe a little.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Oh, there's nothing worse than the smell of stale gas.
Speaker 7 (40:19):
I di scorted before I had a toad, and then
once I gave a gas that died and haven't been
able to start it since.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Man, Well, typically I mean you could you could, you know,
take the line off at the one of the lines
off at the fuel filter and just pump it all out.
You could do that, I mean the way we would
do it at my shopping. You may not be able
to do this, but what we would typically do is
and the easiest way to do it is we would
(40:47):
take the bed off the frame. And again typically most
trucks there's three there's six bolts that hold there's three
on each side of that frame that that hold that
that bed in there. Typically that's what we would do
is we would just you know, and the beds are
(41:08):
really really light. I mean, it usually only takes about
two maybe three guys just take those six bolts out
and lift that bed off, that off that frame, and
then the tank is right there. And then it's got
a plastic most likely, well it's a ninety four, so
it's got probably a metal locker ring.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
You just take a screwdriver or a chisel, and a
screwdriver would be recommended.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
You don't want any sparks, and you want to knock
that locking ring off and just pull that pump out,
suck it out. I mean, I think that would be
the best, but again that's a lot of work. I mean,
you could take it off of the fuel filter and
have it pump out, but the pump could be bad too,
where it's not gonna pump out, you know what I mean?
Speaker 7 (41:52):
Yeah, you got a point there. Would that be better
sitting and dropping the tank?
Speaker 2 (41:56):
No, I wouldn't know.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
Because those straps the typically the straps are completely severely rusted.
The bolts that hold the straps in are severely rusted,
and they typically will break off and you can't get
the straps off, and where the bolts for the bed
you can get out.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
I've never ever ever had a problem.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
Getting the bed bolts out, always have a problem getting
the fuel tank straps.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
So I would not drop the tank. It would be easier.
If you're gonna drop the tank, don't just take the
bed off.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
But if the pump is working, yeah, obviously get a
bucket or pail or something underneath it.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
And try to pump it out. But man, back in
those days, I mean GM and Ford were notorious for
bad fuel pumps. But you could try it. Yeah. And
then the other thing though, too, is if that fuel
filter itself, that line, the nut that screws into that filter,
if it's all rusted, right, it's all rusted, it will
come off.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
Then you can't get it off. Then you you know,
break the fuel line, and then you're not gonna be
able to get fuel lines for it, and it could
open up a can of worms.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
Uh. I would probably just take the bed off, make
it a Saturday project.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
Take the it's six bolts, I mean most trucks have
just three bolts on each side of the frame. Yes,
it would require a little bit more work, but you're
taking that bed off, you're gonna restore it anyways, take
that bet off. The pump is right there. It would
make your life so much easier by going that route.
That's the way I would do it. And I'd siphon
(43:34):
it out that way.
Speaker 7 (43:36):
Oh ken, instead of siving it through the pillar tube
as well. And you know they get those pump and
pumps that siphon it out.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
So most most I don't on a ninety four, I'm
not sure, but most vehicles they've got like a like
a ball that's in the filler neck. So if the
if the truck was to flip over, the gas doesn't
pour out of there, and so people can't siphon the
gas out of it. On a ninety four or probably
you probably still can't siphon the gas out of it.
I'm not quite sure.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
I know on these newer cars, most of the cars
that are out there today, they've got a ball that
won't allow so if again, if the car does tip,
the gas doesn't pour out of it. You know, yeah,
so I mean you can you can try. There's a
it's on Amazon. There's a pump. It's like a manual pump.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
It's just got a little marble at the end of it,
but you would run it down there and then you
just shake it and it. Man, the things you can
get them for like they're cheap. I don't want to say,
like twenty six bucks. You can try to siphon it
out that way, but I think the best way would
be just take the bed off the frame and and.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
And go that route.
Speaker 7 (44:48):
So all right, it wouldn't have been good to change
that silter anyway, and it.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
Would be absolutely it would be, but I would I
would recommend if you're gonna do it, you make I
would get some PB blast or some WT forty and
so get some some type of penetrating oil, and you
soak that thing for a couple of days. Soak it,
let it try to work its way in there, so
you don't, you know, get one of those lines that's
(45:15):
all rusted and and and create a headache for you.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
So hey, listen, I gotta go. I really do appreciate it.
Thanks for holding all right, all right, take care, Brandy,
I apologize.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
Please call me back next Saturday. I'll be back to
answer all of your car questions. I really do appreciate
everybody calling.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
Everybody. Have a great weekend.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
Uh, let's go bangles right Hooday, we need to win tomorrow.
Last week wasn't too great but uh but uh anyways, Hey,
I'll be back next Saturday answer all your car questions.
Thank you so much for listening to the Car Show
on fifty five KRC the talk station, and
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