December 18, 2024 • 23 mins
Director José Avelino Gilles Corbett Lourenço discusses his new romantic comedy, "Young Werther," – starring Douglas Booth, Alison Pill, and Patrick J. Adams! "Young Werther," based on the classic best-selling novel, is currently playing in theaters, on-demand, and on digital - click here to watch the trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHH2QXzHdoQ
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Werther, a carefree and charming young writer, stumbles across the love of his life only to find out she's engaged. Against his best friend's urgings, Werther turns his world upside down in a misguided and hilarious quest to win her heart.
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Werther, a carefree and charming young writer, stumbles across the love of his life only to find out she's engaged. Against his best friend's urgings, Werther turns his world upside down in a misguided and hilarious quest to win her heart.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The jam Bright Show, All about Movies. You're listening to
The jam Price Show All about Movies, and today my
guest is jose Avelino, Gill Corbet, Corbette Lorenzio. Did I do?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Okay? I think?
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Thank you, thank you. I appreciate that. Osay, I do.
Welcome to the show. It's good to have you here.
We're going to be talking about your film Young Worther,
which is just absolutely adorable. I really enjoyed this movie.
It's not your typical love story, but it's a lovely
(00:40):
story and it's so well done. It just it is.
It's just so well done and so entertaining. So thank
you for coming on the show to discuss Young Worther today.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Oh well, thank you, and thank you for saying such
kind things. That's so nice. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
You're very welcome, I mean, all of them. So, so
let's talk about I mean, I surprised when I was
doing my research where the material came for this movie,
A Young Worther. So why did you tell the audience
a little bit about the origin of the story to
begin with, and then we'll go from there.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
The film is based on a novel that was written
in seventeen seventy four by Guta called The Sorrows of
Young Wather And it's the story of a young guy
and a young girl who fall in love but she's
engaged an older man.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
But instead of it being this awful, terrible.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Thing, it's they kind of settle into this you know,
love triangle friendship triangle, where there's no sort of clear
heroin villain. It's just you know, people trying to connect
and live their lives and be good to each other.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Yeah, that's perfect, perfect, But seventeen seventy six, when was
it seventeen something seventy four, seventeen seventy.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Four, Yeah, two hundred and fiftieth anniversary this year.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Wow, And so you read this in college or high school.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
In college, I wasn't aware of the book until it
was a class that I took in third year called
Coming of Age Literature, and you know, we had to
read I don't know, however, many books, eighteen books that semester,
and it.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Was one of them. And you know what, I like
it just fine.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
I was like, like, this is a this is this
is nice. But you know, wrote my essay and stuck
it on the shelf. And then didn't pick it up
again for about a decade.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
And in those ensuing.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Years, I'd had some you know, heartbreaks of my own
and then a little more sort of experience in life,
and when I re read the book, it just sort
of hit a little differently, and I looked at it
and was like, you know this, this would make a
great movie.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
And it had been adapted.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Into film in Europe before, into operas.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Musical, Oh really, you know, television.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Series, comic books, it's been It's been widely adapted. Wow,
there hadn't been a major English language adaptation, so it
was excited to try ahead of that.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yeah, I mean it's surprised that nobody had done this before,
to be honest with you, because it is such a
great story and the fact that it is two hundred
and fifty years old. It is as did you have
to make it more current and fresher or was it
already that you know, the ground we're already laid out
(03:23):
in this book because I have not read it myself,
to be honest with you, Yeah, you.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Know, it's less of the film is it's not really
like a beat for beat recreation of the book, as
much as it is you know, borrowing really the sort
of narrative arc of the story and the characters and
the themes. So it's you know, it's very much a
set in present day. It's a contemporary sort of version
(03:49):
of the story. And really, you know, it's the things
that are being updated are the stuff on the edges
of the story, you know, it's you know, the wardrobe,
the locations, things like that. But the essence of the
story and what the characters are doing and how they're behaving,
(04:12):
you know that that feels timeless to me. It feels
like something that is true to the way their lives
would have been in seventeen seventy four, as they are today,
as they will be two hundred and fifty years from now,
when I've inevitably adapted into whatever form of entertainment we're
consuming them.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Interesting, interesting, Well it is adorable and you've got such
a love you know, your cast is. I love Alison
pill I just love everything she's in. I always enjoy
watching her. She's such a unique actress and I look
forward to seeing what she's going to do next. But
she's just adorable in this. And Douglas Booth, who I
(04:49):
didn't know anything about prior to seeing this film, but
after seeing him, I now want to go watch other
things that he has been involved with and thinks he
has been in because he's just a adorable and the
rest of the cast is too. If you want to
talk a little bit more about the rest of the cast,
But how did you come about casting Allison and Douglas
(05:09):
Because their chemistry is so wonderful in this film.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
I feel very lucky at having both of them in
the film and the chemistry that they have together. Because
you know, this wasn't a big studio film where you
do chemistry tests for months and you bring it actors
and play them off each other. This was, you know,
casting casting the role of Wather that Doug plays, you know,
(05:34):
took quite a.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Long time and met with so many different actors.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
I've first seen Doug a film called The Ryan Club
from about ten years ago, British film that if you
want to see every super talented, charming, handsome young British
man who was acting today, they were all in that
film and Doug really stood out from the pack for
me and I just followed him ever since.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
So so in your.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Douglas Booth filmography journey check out the Ride Club wonderful
and Alison I feel the exact same way about her,
you do. I think she's just exceptionally talented, you know,
someone who who can do comedy and drama with just
equal skills, so witty, so so wonderful, but just an
(06:21):
incredible actor.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
And the two of them together, I mean, I wish.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
I could take credit for for the connection that they had,
but that really comes from the two of them.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
And they're uh innate facility.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
For for language and their physicality and just the the
reactions and the how present they both were. They're just,
you know, incredible, and yeah, I loved loved watching them work,
and then the rest of our cast too. I have nothing,
but it was just the most positive experience. You know,
Patrick j Adams and people know from suits primarily it's
(06:53):
just the loveliest, steadiest guy's so funny off camera too,
just such.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
A quick wit.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Jehart and I who played Paul where There's best friend.
Johar is this sweet young actor from the UK as well. Actually,
he's in the new the new season of the How
God Was the Name of?
Speaker 2 (07:10):
It is? The Game of Thrones spin off show that
I should know the name of it, but I don't.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
I don't either.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Yeah, this is terrible. We're going to get Chris file
online for this.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
But that that show and uh yeah, Iris Apatow so
so warm and funny and smart and hum herd core
also just an incredible talent.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
It was it was a dream.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
It was a dreamcast and and you can see that
on the screen, you know, you can just see how
we get along in this moment. And what's it is
unusual because here it is. And so I don't know
if we really told the audience what the premise is
a little bit you did about the book, but why
don't you tell him a little bit more and more
(07:54):
detail about the film and and the relationships.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
So in this uh sort of version of the Worth story,
where there is a charming young man from Montreal who's
come to Toronto to run an errand for his mother
to retrieve a contested family heirloom from a from a
from a detested aunt. And while he's on this trip
(08:20):
that his hypochondriac best friend has accompanied him on, he
has a love at first sight moment with this very
intriguing woman who is in the middle of just completely
dressing down an old fish suitor who is clumsily trying
to pick up her little sister at a at a
gelato shop, and yeah, whether kind of insinuates himself into
(08:44):
into this woman's life, into Charlotte's life, and she initially
wants nothing to do with him, is not impressed by
his his charm, She's not charmed by his charm, he
has no interest in his his physical attractiveness. She's she's
not not falling for anty of it. But he attends
her birthday party and they just.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
They sort of.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
She learns that there's more to him than than than
meets the eye, than a first impression, and they have
a connection that blossoms into a friendship and a romance
that is complicated because she is engaged to an older
man who is a wonderful guy, and their relationship is imperfect,
but it is stable and where there upsets that stability,
(09:28):
but at the same time where they're also befriends the fiance,
and the film is just you know, an exploration of yeah,
their connection, their semi requited, unrequited love, friendship, all the
gray areas that come with relationships like these.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Yeah, which makes it feel was that was that too long?
Not at all not at all. And I think that's, uh,
that's so great because the relationships are solid. There isn't
There isn't a good guy or bad guy. Is not
like you're rooting for one more than the other, because
her fiance is really lovely and adorable and accepting. And
of course wor There is totally charming and adorable, and
(10:08):
we're rooting for him actually in many ways, but we're
also rooting for the best for everybody in this film,
and and and and the fact that they all become
friends and enjoy doing things together and whatnot as a
testament again to just integrity and caring about other people
(10:32):
and love too, because they all they all underneath love
each other in their own special ways, maybe not necessarily romantically,
but definitely in love. And and he comes and wakes
her up a little bit, you know, from her life.
And also I think the fiance, you know, is gets
awakened two from the relationship, which is is lovely.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Yeah's I mean, that's a great insight. It's it's you know,
it's it's it's not just the story of Werther and
Charlotte's relationship and how they affect each other, whether and
Albert affect each other too. I think Albert and where
they have almost like an older brother, younger brother, father's son,
best friend, equal romantic rival kind of this that there
(11:18):
are all these things at once. And you know, as
much as Albert has woken up and sort of reminded
of the things that make life worth living outside of
just working all the time, sort of maybe taking relationship
for granted, Albert helps where they're sort of mature, you know,
there's it's it's almost like an example of another way
(11:42):
to live. And I think with all the characters, it's
you know, it's looking at people as imperfect human beings,
but human beings who are having very real experiences.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Like it's.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
You know, I don't I don't think day to day
anyone goes through life trying to do the wrong thing
or be a villain or be a hero or you
know that people just exist and I think try to
be good to each other and show each other a
little grace. And that really resonated with me from the
original original text, and it was something that I was
hoping the.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Film would happen.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
It does. It definitely does. It does. That's grace is
a wonderful word. I love that word. It definitely has grace.
Why do you think this novel that was written two
hundred and fifty years ago has such residents today?
Speaker 3 (12:37):
I mean, I think a lot of it is in
you know what we're what we're just discussing about sort
of the the the tricky intricacies of human connection.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
You know.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
It's when you look at Charlotte and Albert's relationship.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
You know, they're they're engaged and they've been together.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
For some time. There's no in the book or in
the film, there's no there's no indictment of their relationship there.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
It's not labeling it as one.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Thing, and it's a living, breathing thing, the way that
all relationships are. And where there comes any he's this
gust of wind that sort of blows new life into
that relationship, and he has his own sort of aims
and is yeah, again like not a he's a complex character.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
They're all they're all complex human characters that.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Yeah, none of them are having their best day or
worst day in the film, you know, And it's we
talked a lot while shooting about having the movie not
feel like it's the definitive story of these characters' lives
or the one great love or the one great thing,
because that's I don't think that's necessarily true or reflective
with the human experience. We talk about the film being
(13:53):
more of the chapter in the Book of their Lives
and maybe a chapter from the first third of that book,
you know, something that they'll all look back on many
years later. It's like, oh, that was a that was
a very memorable summer. And we have these experiences and
we were changed by them. But yeah, and I think
that's I think that's the resonance of that book. It's
it's accepting people for Yeah, the interesting, flawed humans they are.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
I think that's always going to be relevant.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Yes, this is true, this is true. Well, you certainly
avoided falling into the realm calm trap with this. And
and because it's you, it's it's a standalone it's unique. Uh,
it's it's gotten many messages you know, underneath it, and
the acting is it's well the home the germophobic friend
(14:51):
as well. Okay, so you know, I don't know, maybe
that's very realistic. I'm sure in the world. But but
but the emotions and the feelings and the way this
move he's done is very real. And you don't feel like,
you know, you're just watching another you know, typical romantic
comedy in the way that you've put it together. As
(15:11):
I said, it's it's it's beautifully shot, the colors, you know,
the photography, the cinematography, the you know, the music. It's
it's really well done.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Really, I mean, like everything you said makes me smile,
very very broadly.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
The I mean the music was done by our incredible composer,
Owen Palette, who is this virtuoso.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
He was a or and still is an Indian musician.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
You know, he's he's known for being widely known for
being the violinist in The Arcade Fire, and he's in
recent years he scored the.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Film Her The Working Phoenix.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Oh yes, dream Scenario Nicholas Cage, and he's it's so
talented and such a romantic and such like what I've
first approached him about scoring the film.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
You know, many people, when I would.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Speak to them about the project, I would kind of
have to explain a little bit about the book. And
I'm not like a German literature scholar or anything. I
can't really go into depth about it. But I mentioned
it to Owen and he was like, oh, yes, guitas.
Like first it started going off. He's like, at one
point I was developing this you know, this operetta and.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
It was going to be Canoe interviewing. I was like, who,
he's so smart.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
But she's just an incredible musician and composer and our cinematographer,
Nick Hate. I mean, if the film looks beautiful, it's
because of Nick's I and his coordination with her production
designer Kiara Vernon, who when you talk about the colors,
she and Courtney Mitchell, our costumer, like worked in walkstep
to sort of have the film give this film like
(16:46):
a color journey and a quality of light that I
feel fine celebrating those aspects of the film because I'm
not saying anything about myself.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
I'm celebrating their work. Right, They really did such a
beautiful job beyond anything I could have mentioned.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Yeah, I mean it does. The colors just you know,
vibrate and stand out in this film. And again it's
just there's just segments. The way it's done, it's just
like little portraits, you know, they're just so beautifully done.
And the costume designer go ahead, I love that.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Thank you, Sorry you very no.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
No, you're very welcome back and keep going here. But
the costume design, where there's costumes, let's talk about his costumes.
His choice of suits and clothing I found fascinating.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Absolutely, yes, So yeah, Cordy Mitchell was our costumer and
so talented and so smart and yeah, wee there's costuming.
Was you know, he was meant to feel like like
a character out of time, you know, like we wanted
the film to feel to feel timeless, to feel like
it was you know, it was contemporary. But yeah, like
(18:01):
occupying like a unique zone and where there's outfits where
very much someone who is you know, he's he sees
like a dandy, you know, like really has an outfit
for every occasion. I gonna wear the same suit a
party that night that he's born earlier that day.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
I know I was thinking, like you when you had
one most suitcase, he was gonna stay overnight. All of
a sudden, he is all of these clothes instantly shopping.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
You know. One of the things in the film that
I love so.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Much was, and this was Courtney's idea, was you know,
Paul doesn't leave their hotel room in Toronto sort of
at all, and he's constantly Paul is always adorned in
the hotels like merch like he's always wearing It's the
Claudine Hotel. He's always wearing their sweatshirts and their sweatsuits
and their T shirts and things. And as Werther has
his sort of as part of his emotional journey, when
(18:52):
he's starting to vibrate more on Paul's anxious, more depressed level,
Worther takes on some of that costume as well. He's
wearing the hotel sweatshirts. And then related to that, my
mom and dad didn't see the film until the premiere,
and I showed it to them, and my mom was
like holding my hand during the movie, and she squeezed
it extra hard when she saw where they were staying
(19:14):
in the film, because I named the hotel for her.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
She's Claudine clad Mary Corba Lorenzo's, Oh my goodness, hotel's
name for her.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Yeah, And that night, my mom and dad they left
the party after the premiere and went home to babysit
our four year old and our seven year old, and
I had stolen sweatsuits from the film waiting for them
as pajamas at our house. So got a nice text
for my mom and dad wearing the Worth and Paul sweats.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Oh, how wonderful. That's sound exciting. Nice little tidbit for
the film. That's really great. So what was the most
difficult part of filming You filmed in Toronto?
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Yeah? Yeah, filmed in Toronto and sort of the surrounding areas.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
I used to live in Toronto. I lived in Toronto
for a summer. I loved it.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Oh really, did you Where do you do it?
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Near the university? I used to I lived in Rochester,
New York for a long time. This is the big
brief segue. And of course, you know, Toronto was only
three hours away, so I used to go to Toronto
all the time, and then I ended up living there
for some summer. So and yeah, yeah, I love Toronto.
It's a great city. It really is.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Very You know, much of the film was shot not
too far from you would have been living near the university.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Yeah, we shot all over Toronto. Wait, what was the
story as we got what was the question?
Speaker 1 (20:28):
We were just filming in Toronto.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Filming in Toronto, Yeah, I mean it was a great
A great joy of this film was being able to
not just film here, but set it here because Toronto
so often plays other films or plays other cities in
films and TV shows. Right, okay, is itself but it's rare.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
And yeah, it was.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
It was nice to start of have Carpelanche to pick
and choose all these really beautiful locations that I feel
like are not seen that frequently.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
On our screens. And yeah, present this version of the.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
City that is a bit heightened, that is a bit
fairy tale, but it's still grounded in reality enough that
like you can go to Baripay on the weekend and
stand in line and get the most delicious gelato in
the world. You know, you can go to restaurant twenty
Victoria south of Queen on Victoria Street and you know,
sit at a table next to Meryl.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Street when she's in town.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
It's that kind of city, and it's yeah, I feel
so grateful to have it.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
It is a great city. It really is. Well, where
can people where can people see Young Weather?
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (21:40):
So, Young Weather will be in theaters in the United
States on December thirteenth. Theaters. It's limited, I should know
exactly which cities, but many cities in the United States will.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Have it in theaters.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
It will also be available on vod in the United
States on December thirteenth, and then other territories around the
world mostly January.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Januarykyward's coming.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Yeah, well, everybody seek out Young Weather. It's a great
one to watch over the holidays. It's a wonderful film.
So thank you Jose for being on the show. I
appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Wonderful. Thank you so much for your thoughtful questions on
con words. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
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Speaker 2 (22:55):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
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Speaker 2 (23:02):
Yeah, thank you so much. This is so nice.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
You're so welcome. I look forward to seeing your next film,
lopet I have a great holiday season, take care, Thank you,
Bye bye. The jam Right Show All About Movies.
The jam Bright Show, All about Movies. You're listening to
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guest is jose Avelino, Gill Corbet, Corbette Lorenzio. Did I do?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Okay? I think?
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Thank you, thank you. I appreciate that. Osay, I do.
Welcome to the show. It's good to have you here.
We're going to be talking about your film Young Worther,
which is just absolutely adorable. I really enjoyed this movie.
It's not your typical love story, but it's a lovely
(00:40):
story and it's so well done. It just it is.
It's just so well done and so entertaining. So thank
you for coming on the show to discuss Young Worther today.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Oh well, thank you, and thank you for saying such
kind things. That's so nice. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
You're very welcome, I mean, all of them. So, so
let's talk about I mean, I surprised when I was
doing my research where the material came for this movie,
A Young Worther. So why did you tell the audience
a little bit about the origin of the story to
begin with, and then we'll go from there.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
The film is based on a novel that was written
in seventeen seventy four by Guta called The Sorrows of
Young Wather And it's the story of a young guy
and a young girl who fall in love but she's
engaged an older man.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
But instead of it being this awful, terrible.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Thing, it's they kind of settle into this you know,
love triangle friendship triangle, where there's no sort of clear
heroin villain. It's just you know, people trying to connect
and live their lives and be good to each other.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Yeah, that's perfect, perfect, But seventeen seventy six, when was
it seventeen something seventy four, seventeen seventy.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Four, Yeah, two hundred and fiftieth anniversary this year.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Wow, And so you read this in college or high school.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
In college, I wasn't aware of the book until it
was a class that I took in third year called
Coming of Age Literature, and you know, we had to
read I don't know, however, many books, eighteen books that semester,
and it.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Was one of them. And you know what, I like
it just fine.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
I was like, like, this is a this is this
is nice. But you know, wrote my essay and stuck
it on the shelf. And then didn't pick it up
again for about a decade.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
And in those ensuing.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Years, I'd had some you know, heartbreaks of my own
and then a little more sort of experience in life,
and when I re read the book, it just sort
of hit a little differently, and I looked at it
and was like, you know this, this would make a
great movie.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
And it had been adapted.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Into film in Europe before, into operas.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Musical, Oh really, you know, television.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Series, comic books, it's been It's been widely adapted. Wow,
there hadn't been a major English language adaptation, so it
was excited to try ahead of that.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yeah, I mean it's surprised that nobody had done this before,
to be honest with you, because it is such a
great story and the fact that it is two hundred
and fifty years old. It is as did you have
to make it more current and fresher or was it
already that you know, the ground we're already laid out
(03:23):
in this book because I have not read it myself,
to be honest with you, Yeah, you.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Know, it's less of the film is it's not really
like a beat for beat recreation of the book, as
much as it is you know, borrowing really the sort
of narrative arc of the story and the characters and
the themes. So it's you know, it's very much a
set in present day. It's a contemporary sort of version
(03:49):
of the story. And really, you know, it's the things
that are being updated are the stuff on the edges
of the story, you know, it's you know, the wardrobe,
the locations, things like that. But the essence of the
story and what the characters are doing and how they're behaving,
(04:12):
you know that that feels timeless to me. It feels
like something that is true to the way their lives
would have been in seventeen seventy four, as they are today,
as they will be two hundred and fifty years from now,
when I've inevitably adapted into whatever form of entertainment we're
consuming them.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Interesting, interesting, Well it is adorable and you've got such
a love you know, your cast is. I love Alison
pill I just love everything she's in. I always enjoy
watching her. She's such a unique actress and I look
forward to seeing what she's going to do next. But
she's just adorable in this. And Douglas Booth, who I
(04:49):
didn't know anything about prior to seeing this film, but
after seeing him, I now want to go watch other
things that he has been involved with and thinks he
has been in because he's just a adorable and the
rest of the cast is too. If you want to
talk a little bit more about the rest of the cast,
But how did you come about casting Allison and Douglas
(05:09):
Because their chemistry is so wonderful in this film.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
I feel very lucky at having both of them in
the film and the chemistry that they have together. Because
you know, this wasn't a big studio film where you
do chemistry tests for months and you bring it actors
and play them off each other. This was, you know,
casting casting the role of Wather that Doug plays, you know,
(05:34):
took quite a.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Long time and met with so many different actors.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
I've first seen Doug a film called The Ryan Club
from about ten years ago, British film that if you
want to see every super talented, charming, handsome young British
man who was acting today, they were all in that
film and Doug really stood out from the pack for
me and I just followed him ever since.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
So so in your.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Douglas Booth filmography journey check out the Ride Club wonderful
and Alison I feel the exact same way about her,
you do. I think she's just exceptionally talented, you know,
someone who who can do comedy and drama with just
equal skills, so witty, so so wonderful, but just an
(06:21):
incredible actor.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
And the two of them together, I mean, I wish.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
I could take credit for for the connection that they had,
but that really comes from the two of them.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
And they're uh innate facility.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
For for language and their physicality and just the the
reactions and the how present they both were. They're just,
you know, incredible, and yeah, I loved loved watching them work,
and then the rest of our cast too. I have nothing,
but it was just the most positive experience. You know,
Patrick j Adams and people know from suits primarily it's
(06:53):
just the loveliest, steadiest guy's so funny off camera too,
just such.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
A quick wit.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Jehart and I who played Paul where There's best friend.
Johar is this sweet young actor from the UK as well. Actually,
he's in the new the new season of the How
God Was the Name of?
Speaker 2 (07:10):
It is? The Game of Thrones spin off show that
I should know the name of it, but I don't.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
I don't either.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Yeah, this is terrible. We're going to get Chris file
online for this.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
But that that show and uh yeah, Iris Apatow so
so warm and funny and smart and hum herd core
also just an incredible talent.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
It was it was a dream.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
It was a dreamcast and and you can see that
on the screen, you know, you can just see how
we get along in this moment. And what's it is
unusual because here it is. And so I don't know
if we really told the audience what the premise is
a little bit you did about the book, but why
don't you tell him a little bit more and more
(07:54):
detail about the film and and the relationships.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
So in this uh sort of version of the Worth story,
where there is a charming young man from Montreal who's
come to Toronto to run an errand for his mother
to retrieve a contested family heirloom from a from a
from a detested aunt. And while he's on this trip
(08:20):
that his hypochondriac best friend has accompanied him on, he
has a love at first sight moment with this very
intriguing woman who is in the middle of just completely
dressing down an old fish suitor who is clumsily trying
to pick up her little sister at a at a
gelato shop, and yeah, whether kind of insinuates himself into
(08:44):
into this woman's life, into Charlotte's life, and she initially
wants nothing to do with him, is not impressed by
his his charm, She's not charmed by his charm, he
has no interest in his his physical attractiveness. She's she's
not not falling for anty of it. But he attends
her birthday party and they just.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
They sort of.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
She learns that there's more to him than than than
meets the eye, than a first impression, and they have
a connection that blossoms into a friendship and a romance
that is complicated because she is engaged to an older
man who is a wonderful guy, and their relationship is imperfect,
but it is stable and where there upsets that stability,
(09:28):
but at the same time where they're also befriends the fiance,
and the film is just you know, an exploration of yeah,
their connection, their semi requited, unrequited love, friendship, all the
gray areas that come with relationships like these.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Yeah, which makes it feel was that was that too long?
Not at all not at all. And I think that's, uh,
that's so great because the relationships are solid. There isn't
There isn't a good guy or bad guy. Is not
like you're rooting for one more than the other, because
her fiance is really lovely and adorable and accepting. And
of course wor There is totally charming and adorable, and
(10:08):
we're rooting for him actually in many ways, but we're
also rooting for the best for everybody in this film,
and and and and the fact that they all become
friends and enjoy doing things together and whatnot as a
testament again to just integrity and caring about other people
(10:32):
and love too, because they all they all underneath love
each other in their own special ways, maybe not necessarily romantically,
but definitely in love. And and he comes and wakes
her up a little bit, you know, from her life.
And also I think the fiance, you know, is gets
awakened two from the relationship, which is is lovely.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Yeah's I mean, that's a great insight. It's it's you know,
it's it's it's not just the story of Werther and
Charlotte's relationship and how they affect each other, whether and
Albert affect each other too. I think Albert and where
they have almost like an older brother, younger brother, father's son,
best friend, equal romantic rival kind of this that there
(11:18):
are all these things at once. And you know, as
much as Albert has woken up and sort of reminded
of the things that make life worth living outside of
just working all the time, sort of maybe taking relationship
for granted, Albert helps where they're sort of mature, you know,
there's it's it's almost like an example of another way
(11:42):
to live. And I think with all the characters, it's
you know, it's looking at people as imperfect human beings,
but human beings who are having very real experiences.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Like it's.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
You know, I don't I don't think day to day
anyone goes through life trying to do the wrong thing
or be a villain or be a hero or you
know that people just exist and I think try to
be good to each other and show each other a
little grace. And that really resonated with me from the
original original text, and it was something that I was
hoping the.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Film would happen.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
It does. It definitely does. It does. That's grace is
a wonderful word. I love that word. It definitely has grace.
Why do you think this novel that was written two
hundred and fifty years ago has such residents today?
Speaker 3 (12:37):
I mean, I think a lot of it is in
you know what we're what we're just discussing about sort
of the the the tricky intricacies of human connection.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
You know.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
It's when you look at Charlotte and Albert's relationship.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
You know, they're they're engaged and they've been together.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
For some time. There's no in the book or in
the film, there's no there's no indictment of their relationship there.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
It's not labeling it as one.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Thing, and it's a living, breathing thing, the way that
all relationships are. And where there comes any he's this
gust of wind that sort of blows new life into
that relationship, and he has his own sort of aims
and is yeah, again like not a he's a complex character.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
They're all they're all complex human characters that.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Yeah, none of them are having their best day or
worst day in the film, you know, And it's we
talked a lot while shooting about having the movie not
feel like it's the definitive story of these characters' lives
or the one great love or the one great thing,
because that's I don't think that's necessarily true or reflective
with the human experience. We talk about the film being
(13:53):
more of the chapter in the Book of their Lives
and maybe a chapter from the first third of that book,
you know, something that they'll all look back on many
years later. It's like, oh, that was a that was
a very memorable summer. And we have these experiences and
we were changed by them. But yeah, and I think
that's I think that's the resonance of that book. It's
it's accepting people for Yeah, the interesting, flawed humans they are.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
I think that's always going to be relevant.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Yes, this is true, this is true. Well, you certainly
avoided falling into the realm calm trap with this. And
and because it's you, it's it's a standalone it's unique. Uh,
it's it's gotten many messages you know, underneath it, and
the acting is it's well the home the germophobic friend
(14:51):
as well. Okay, so you know, I don't know, maybe
that's very realistic. I'm sure in the world. But but
but the emotions and the feelings and the way this
move he's done is very real. And you don't feel like,
you know, you're just watching another you know, typical romantic
comedy in the way that you've put it together. As
(15:11):
I said, it's it's it's beautifully shot, the colors, you know,
the photography, the cinematography, the you know, the music. It's
it's really well done.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Really, I mean, like everything you said makes me smile,
very very broadly.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
The I mean the music was done by our incredible composer,
Owen Palette, who is this virtuoso.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
He was a or and still is an Indian musician.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
You know, he's he's known for being widely known for
being the violinist in The Arcade Fire, and he's in
recent years he scored the.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Film Her The Working Phoenix.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Oh yes, dream Scenario Nicholas Cage, and he's it's so
talented and such a romantic and such like what I've
first approached him about scoring the film.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
You know, many people, when I would.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Speak to them about the project, I would kind of
have to explain a little bit about the book. And
I'm not like a German literature scholar or anything. I
can't really go into depth about it. But I mentioned
it to Owen and he was like, oh, yes, guitas.
Like first it started going off. He's like, at one
point I was developing this you know, this operetta and.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
It was going to be Canoe interviewing. I was like, who,
he's so smart.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
But she's just an incredible musician and composer and our cinematographer,
Nick Hate. I mean, if the film looks beautiful, it's
because of Nick's I and his coordination with her production
designer Kiara Vernon, who when you talk about the colors,
she and Courtney Mitchell, our costumer, like worked in walkstep
to sort of have the film give this film like
(16:46):
a color journey and a quality of light that I
feel fine celebrating those aspects of the film because I'm
not saying anything about myself.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
I'm celebrating their work. Right, They really did such a
beautiful job beyond anything I could have mentioned.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Yeah, I mean it does. The colors just you know,
vibrate and stand out in this film. And again it's
just there's just segments. The way it's done, it's just
like little portraits, you know, they're just so beautifully done.
And the costume designer go ahead, I love that.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Thank you, Sorry you very no.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
No, you're very welcome back and keep going here. But
the costume design, where there's costumes, let's talk about his costumes.
His choice of suits and clothing I found fascinating.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Absolutely, yes, So yeah, Cordy Mitchell was our costumer and
so talented and so smart and yeah, wee there's costuming.
Was you know, he was meant to feel like like
a character out of time, you know, like we wanted
the film to feel to feel timeless, to feel like
it was you know, it was contemporary. But yeah, like
(18:01):
occupying like a unique zone and where there's outfits where
very much someone who is you know, he's he sees
like a dandy, you know, like really has an outfit
for every occasion. I gonna wear the same suit a
party that night that he's born earlier that day.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
I know I was thinking, like you when you had
one most suitcase, he was gonna stay overnight. All of
a sudden, he is all of these clothes instantly shopping.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
You know. One of the things in the film that
I love so.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Much was, and this was Courtney's idea, was you know,
Paul doesn't leave their hotel room in Toronto sort of
at all, and he's constantly Paul is always adorned in
the hotels like merch like he's always wearing It's the
Claudine Hotel. He's always wearing their sweatshirts and their sweatsuits
and their T shirts and things. And as Werther has
his sort of as part of his emotional journey, when
(18:52):
he's starting to vibrate more on Paul's anxious, more depressed level,
Worther takes on some of that costume as well. He's
wearing the hotel sweatshirts. And then related to that, my
mom and dad didn't see the film until the premiere,
and I showed it to them, and my mom was
like holding my hand during the movie, and she squeezed
it extra hard when she saw where they were staying
(19:14):
in the film, because I named the hotel for her.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
She's Claudine clad Mary Corba Lorenzo's, Oh my goodness, hotel's
name for her.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Yeah, And that night, my mom and dad they left
the party after the premiere and went home to babysit
our four year old and our seven year old, and
I had stolen sweatsuits from the film waiting for them
as pajamas at our house. So got a nice text
for my mom and dad wearing the Worth and Paul sweats.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Oh, how wonderful. That's sound exciting. Nice little tidbit for
the film. That's really great. So what was the most
difficult part of filming You filmed in Toronto?
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Yeah? Yeah, filmed in Toronto and sort of the surrounding areas.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
I used to live in Toronto. I lived in Toronto
for a summer. I loved it.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Oh really, did you Where do you do it?
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Near the university? I used to I lived in Rochester,
New York for a long time. This is the big
brief segue. And of course, you know, Toronto was only
three hours away, so I used to go to Toronto
all the time, and then I ended up living there
for some summer. So and yeah, yeah, I love Toronto.
It's a great city. It really is.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Very You know, much of the film was shot not
too far from you would have been living near the university.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Yeah, we shot all over Toronto. Wait, what was the
story as we got what was the question?
Speaker 1 (20:28):
We were just filming in Toronto.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Filming in Toronto, Yeah, I mean it was a great
A great joy of this film was being able to
not just film here, but set it here because Toronto
so often plays other films or plays other cities in
films and TV shows. Right, okay, is itself but it's rare.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
And yeah, it was.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
It was nice to start of have Carpelanche to pick
and choose all these really beautiful locations that I feel
like are not seen that frequently.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
On our screens. And yeah, present this version of the.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
City that is a bit heightened, that is a bit
fairy tale, but it's still grounded in reality enough that
like you can go to Baripay on the weekend and
stand in line and get the most delicious gelato in
the world. You know, you can go to restaurant twenty
Victoria south of Queen on Victoria Street and you know,
sit at a table next to Meryl.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Street when she's in town.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
It's that kind of city, and it's yeah, I feel
so grateful to have it.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
It is a great city. It really is. Well, where
can people where can people see Young Weather?
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (21:40):
So, Young Weather will be in theaters in the United
States on December thirteenth. Theaters. It's limited, I should know
exactly which cities, but many cities in the United States will.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Have it in theaters.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
It will also be available on vod in the United
States on December thirteenth, and then other territories around the
world mostly January.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Januarykyward's coming.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Yeah, well, everybody seek out Young Weather. It's a great
one to watch over the holidays. It's a wonderful film.
So thank you Jose for being on the show. I
appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Wonderful. Thank you so much for your thoughtful questions on
con words. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
You're welcome. You're welcome. I have a bleak brief message
for my listeners. If you would like to support the
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success with the film.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Recording stock okay, good, wonderful, it was great.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Yeah, thank you so much. This is so nice.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
You're so welcome. I look forward to seeing your next film,
lopet I have a great holiday season, take care, Thank you,
Bye bye. The jam Right Show All About Movies.
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