Catching Up With Fresno County Farm Bureau CEO Ryan Jacobsen

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
If you remember, was at twenty nineteen, I believe it
was when our local Republican congressman went down to Arizona
and President Trump did that signing, basically speeding up the
exact the.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Meat biological I remember it.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
Yes, it was, it was Valideo, It was a now
I think McCarthy was down there, and so that was
a big deal in the sense that I remind folks
all the time these biological opinions were started under President Obama.
Simply the President signed this order essentially the like, hey,
we're taking a long time, let's get these wrapped up
so we can start making progress. They were wrapped up

(00:34):
in twenty twenty, and essentially we went from that calendar
based approach you talked to over to this signed space,
like what's happening in the conditions of the delta today,
and let's make decisions today versus like trying to make
decisions going forward. And it probably meant some real water
for us here in the valley. You know, depending on
the year, it could be five to twenty percent more,
which for my farmers, that's that's the difference between hopefully

(00:57):
stayed in business and not stayed in business some years
and so that's a big, big deal in that sense. Well,
you know, we've talked about it numerous times. The Biden
administration very barely immediately basically stopped the you know, the
those new biological new biological opinions, essentially implemented the former
biological opinions, and then over the course of the last

(01:19):
four years, basically redid them again with I don't want
to say different science, but came to a different conclusion
that wasn't too far off from what the conclusion was
back when it was under the calendar based approach.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
There were some differences, but overall it wouldn't have made
that big a difference if we hadn't gotten off what
Trump wanted us to do, because I hear that a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
Oh no, no, the Trump situation was big, I mean five
to twenty percent allegations.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
What you're saying, would it? Okay? Oh no, no, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
But we basically went back to these new we went
back to the old biological opinions under Biden that basically
took us back in time and.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
What was that science? What year was that? Based on
the Carter's administration.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Two thousand prior to two thousand and nine, give or
take about two thousand and nine, in two thousand and eight,
two thousand and seven, two thousand and nine's when they
had new ones were kind of put in place by
the judicial system. And so with all that confusion, basically
the Biden administration quote unquote redid them. They released them
here just in the last few months. It did not
mean additional water supplies for here for the valley. It

(02:17):
wasn't necessarily good news for us when we looked at that.
And so essentially what the President released on Friday of
this last week is essentially like, hey, we're going to
probably try to make some routes to get over to
what we what I passed the first term in Trump
one point zero and get to a point where hopefully
we're going to see stronger, better reliable water supply issues

(02:38):
here in the valley. Now, let me tell I think
this is important. I am pleased with the President has
done so far. In fact, I brought you know, three
press releases from local entities that all talked about how
good this is for local water. These are this is
not me talking, these are other folks that are talking.
But with all that said, I also want Congress to

(02:59):
act too, so we got this eighteen month window, give
or take, where you know, what the president does may
or may not only live for four years. But I'm
hopeful or optimistic that hopefully we can have some congressional
changes as well to help solidify some of these changes
we're looking.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
At, so we're not having to go back.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
You know, I've told you before, whoever sits in the
president's seat has a lot of bearing over the economic
health of this valley because they determine where these water
allocations are going to be in.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
And you don't want executive order overruling another executive.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
We saw it that we saw what happened four years ago,
and so I mean, and at that time, you know,
this wasn't talked about a lot, but you know, we
talked about I'm talking. You know, the president comes in
day one, day four, day five, he's making big changes. Well,
the former president made big changes in the first month
that dealt with our water situation. So it didn't take
him a long time to try to undo all this
good stuff that we had going on there. And so

(03:49):
and I cannot stress this enough. I will say this
until I'm blue in the face. You know, we talked
about you know, quote unquote Trump's biological opinions that were
started under President Obama. They were scientifically based. We learned
stuff over the course of that decade that made it
so that we could make better decisions of delta. It
was sickening that there was folks that were saying we
had to go back to the old ones. The old

(04:10):
ones weren't necessarily scientifically based. They were just based off
of what we knew at the time. But here we
are the sacience, data, capital technology of the world, and
yet we're using outdated information because it benefits others when
it comes to water supply or others that want to
shut off the spickett of the Sandwikin Valley. I am
a massive proponent, like, hey, we got to let the

(04:30):
you know, let the science fall where the science falls.
But the science was pointing us to that, hey, we
can still have additional water for communities, additional water for
agriculture at the same time of trying to do species protection.
And that's what I still believe that, you know, the
Trump one point zero tried to accomplish through those administrations.
And I'm hoping, like I said, we get there through this,
but we need something more long term and you know, duration,

(04:52):
simply because my farmers can't deal with every four year
ups and downs of what's going on here and as
and all this that I'm talking about really focusing on
the biological opinions because that was the main thing Trump did.
But in addition to that, I mean, I'm optimistic that
this administration is looking at other water supply issues that
we haven't looked at for potentially generations.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
So my in studio guest, Ryan Jenkinson, CEO of the
Fresnoine County Farm Bureau, Ryan Weir right now, Well, at
the end of the month, it's supposed to be our
biggest month for rain. Pretty dry. I heard we got
a big Pineapple Express coming in up north that's going
to drop twenty inches in a lot in the bank
account in the era.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
Someone just told me that, you know, is looking at
twenty to forty inches.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
I mean, that's great news. I needed to swing down
just a little south there because I need it in
my watershed right here.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
We they're talking about we've heard all the talk with
what happened in southern California and the reservoirs being empty,
and if you if you lived in New Jersey or Alabama,
and you followed the news, you would think that we
all our reservoirs are dry. But Lake Oreville's at one
hundred and twenty seven percent. Saan Louis is at one
hundred and and two percent, So I get that looks

(06:00):
good on the over report card.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
The reservoirs are in healthy shape right now. Essentially we've
had Trevor two back to back wet years. I mean,
twenty twenty three record wet year, twenty twenty four, a
good old, just solid average year. Northern California was actually
in better shape last year or this last season than
we were, just because they got some of the brunt
of more of those storms up north there. But the
reservoirs are healthy because of that. But I will also

(06:24):
say that it's disappointing that after you know, two wet years,
my state water allocation is a twenty percent betteral water
allocation hasn't been made yet, but I expect it to
be like ten percent, fifteen percent maybe more, but not
optimistic that that's going to be the case. So even
during these times in which we're following two wet years,
we're still not in the best of position in regards

(06:44):
to water allocations. And so yes, the reservoirs are in
decent shape, but we still have a long ways to
go in this season. The season is shrinking quickly, and
you are absolutely correct. I mean, you looked out there
today right nice and sunny and warm and sunshine. It's
none of those beautiful calif from your days. But I'm
almost too beautiful for our farm farm community. Who wants
to see a few more of those storms. So I'm

(07:05):
I'm hopeful that this next one drops a little bit
more California. You've heard me say this, and I think
it's always worth repeating. I mean, my season is made
or broken by give or take three or four three
four five storms. It's not a lot of storms we need.
If I was to have three to four solid storms
between now and the end of the season, we're probably
in decent shape.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
For the year.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
But calendar me on the end of the season. What's
that marker?

Speaker 3 (07:27):
Calendar? So April first, April first is our season.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
But here in the Fresno area, can you ever take
We're pretty most years wrapped up by mid mid March,
end of February mid March is kind of when I
mean we always, you know, get a storm or two
in March or April, but they're not really big storms.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
You've probably heard March. You know, you want that March miracle.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
It happens, but it doesn't happen that often more times
than not. Come the end of February, we start wrapping up,
and there's there's always years. Twenty twenty three was an example.
We still had more story, but for the most part
it's wrapped up by the end of Bebrar.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
We need some atmospheric rivers in February.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
I would you know, two or three good ones would
solve a lot.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
Of our issues here. What year was it where they
didn't stop? Was that two years ago? It was two
years ago? Twenty three?

Speaker 3 (08:12):
I had we had? Was it?

Speaker 2 (08:13):
I always forget the night my own twenty three or
twenty seven? In an umbrella? Then it was and knew
where it was at all times. Yeah, that's not normal California.
I was one of the I mean, I'll be fair
with you.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
As the time at the time, when you know we
were probably halfways through, it's like pinch me, because I
mean you also you started to recognize, like, hey, we're
we're living through something that this is going to be
a memorable year, because it was I think it was
twenty three, twenty seven, twenty eight, I forgot the number,
but basically, storm after storm after storm, and not they
they hit A lot of them hit Central California. We
always have them go south, we have them break north south,

(08:44):
but not central California. And we had freight train after
freight train after freight train coming to either the centrals
California or right right near us here.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
So I think it was a weekend day, didn't We
text each other the same picture of the satellite of them.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
All lined up like they were literally like craziest line
up up in the ocean, one after another.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
And so boats waiting to drop off shipment in Long
Beach Yep, yep, Nope they were.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
They were delivering, delivering, delivering, and just just an incredible
and and and I still.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
Go back to that year.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
There was some magic that took place during that year.
Not only was it extraordinarily wet and I we obviously
saw devastation. We saw folks that lost their homes, We
saw flooding in some areas. But with all that said,
we still escaped a lot of the damage that could
have happened. Our first hundred degree day that year I
think was like June thirtieth, like literally it was the
end of June, which you know is uncharacteristic for this area.

(09:32):
I mean there's times we got our first hundred degree
day in May early May sometimes versus waiting all the
way till the end of June. So that really saved
us from the massive flooding that could have happened.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
But I remember, though, I learned some history Tillarry Lake
or Lake Tilary, Tilary Lake and how it was there before.
And then yeah, largest freshwater lake met west of Mississippi,
and we tried it up and tried organized and tried
it up, tried it up, and it came back. It
came back. U Are they just now? How soon after that?

(10:02):
I never realized, I know, the follow up though, to
the recovery of those people that had their fields flooded
that obviously did probably even ask you then did it
help the underground aquifers?

Speaker 1 (10:12):
So no, that's the that's the well I'm sorry locally here, Yes,
in the in the area where the Hillary Lake is
not as much as you would think, because what happens
is they have a very they have a very It's
it's very difficult to penetrate corkoran clay. You told me
about this, Yeah, corking clay. So there is some recharge.
I believe that it's been said to like five to

(10:32):
eight percent, but it's not as massive as you think. Now,
the soils you you're standing on around here in Fresno
and going down the you know, whether it's Selma, Kingsburg
extraordinarily poorous soils that will just recharge incredible amounts of water.
But down in the corkorand area there, corkoran clay is
very difficult to get water through.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
I'm glad I remember this question for the next time
you came in. When I hear like Oklahoma, Texas or
even Tennessee or some states North Carolina to talk about, well,
we add drought and had rain in a while, their
underground a aquifers have not been pumped. They they got
a big savings account.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
They Oh no, So one of the largest aquarifers in
the US is in the middle of the US, or
it is the largest in in the middle.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
I always hoguile, I always mess up the name of it.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
But uh no, they've had pumping issue, I mean too
much pumping in certain issues. So they have their own
issues with it. When you hear about drought in the Midwest, though,
you canna remember a lot of those places are purely
relying upon mother nature, and so it's it's it's basically, hey,
the corns knee high, and we haven't had, you know,
rain in three weeks, and it's gonna die or shrivel
away if we don't get some rain. So it's a

(11:37):
much different type of agriculture here. You know, start talking
July and we don't want rain. We're talking devastation. On
the other side. If we got rain, we're obviously very
relying upon these water systems of our dam's reservoirs, canals,
you know, aqueducts that bring us this water through the
snowpack that we accumulate during the winter months.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
He's the CEO of the from some county farm bureau,
Ryan Jacob and you and missus Jacobson. If you ever
held a dinner party, you could really impress your guests
and show how well you're doing by serving eggs.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
These days, bucket eats, right, pretty much depend on what
you're looking at a bucket each.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
I want to come back and let's talk about the
recent and the bird flu back with Ryan Jacobson in studio.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
This is the Trevor Cherry Show on the Fallacy's Power Talk.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
Got a feature on there. It looks like a radio dial.
Now and make me make power Talk. Your number one
pre said out there, will you do that, Ryan Jacobson,
and you get home tonight, after you get all the
kids to bed and all your business done, will you
think of me? I'll text you.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
Yeah, absolutely, why not?

Speaker 2 (12:38):
I got a bet with C. K Runn and who
can get the most? So that's what that what it is? Yeah,
oh there you go. Okay, we got to make that happen.
Let's see. I think that like Trader Joe seems to
be cheaper with eggs, and like some of the other
kind of grocery stores, right, I've noticed that as well,
Like you can't go off the historic what the price
is used to me when it comes to eggs, like

(12:59):
it can shuffle very significantly depending on what's place you're
at right now. So I went back to Tennessee. While
we were back to my sister from Michigan said eggs
or eight ninety nine. We're like what? Then I come back.
I had vacation time. I went to save Mart and
they were eleven ninety nine, and I was just like
spunge shocked. I felt like I was in some kind

(13:20):
of world I didn't recognize.

Speaker 3 (13:21):
We can talk afterwards.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
I got a supply place here that's actually been pretty
good for me. But yah, I don't want to publicly
say that, because man, there's short supply like some places.
Have you You've seen the signs somewhere, places right like
either limiting you to number of eggs we don't have
any more eggs or whatever else? Do I feel like
a Russian shopping on Sunday night in Moscow in nineteen
sixty four. Yes, it's been wild.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
It has been absolutely wild.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
So you want to know why, right, I've been just
gonna blame AOC or noosom or somebody I'm kind of
blame here.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
I mean, obviously we're in the transition on the president's side,
so I guess there's potential. But this is purely this
is a common doodle du there is that is as
accurate as anything out there. It's called HPAI highly pathenogenic,
even influenza. More commonly you'll hear it referred to as

(14:12):
bird flu. But essentially believe it or not now. This
is what's going to surprise people. This particular virus that
we see going around right now has been around since
twenty twenty two. We're about to hit the three year
mark as far as this particular strain that we've seen
impacting the chicken operations or the laane operations throughout the
country here.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
But this one, obviously, it hit just.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
Perfectly kind of I don't want say right before the
holiday season, but essentially before the holiday season. So you
had the perfect storm going on here in California. You know,
not only do you know we have those separate Prop
twelve compliance issues as far as free range chickens and
all that stuff, which means our supply of eggs is
already more limited than other parts of the country. But
during you know, the holiday season, more people are utilizing

(14:56):
and cooking with eggs because the baking going on.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
You know, people with back.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
Your chickens right well, back your chickens don't produce as
much during the winter time, so you got people, those
people buying more eggs.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
And then this, you know, obviously this even influenza comes in.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
And just director Ryan Nigel looked it up for me
in Fresno in the city limits, you can have up
to twelve. I think no, I think that's right. Yeah,
and he had to be thirty or forty feet from
a residence.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
Yep, yep, yep.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
And you don't think there's gonna be a bunch of
people trying to get those same little baby chicks when
they start rolling off of the line.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
This shit, that's what I want for Easter.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
I might be able to hook you up there. Maybe
I'll get you some chicks.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
Uh the uh, But yeah, there's a this It was
the perfect storm of there was So what happens, Trevor,
when you have even a single bird on one of
these facilities that's part of the community population. It is
so fast spreading that essentially all the birds already have
it by the time you see any symptoms in one.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
So when I hear individuals say they're overdoing it, they
don't need to kill that many millions, they're wrong. They're wrong.
It's what would that do me? If I ate some
av and flu fried chicken at home?

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Actually, if it's fried chicken properly cook nothing, there's no issue.
The unfortunate part is is if you do get you know,
if you don't cook it all the way.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
That's when it becomes problematic.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
But this one about eggs, then why why can't we
fully cook the eggs?

Speaker 3 (16:17):
No, no, eggs, there's no problem with eggs. Eggs.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
Your your eggs supply that you're getting is safe. It's
that the chickens actually do end up succumbing to this disease.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
So then go ahead and get the eggs up until
they're death from them.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
Well, they want to stop the spread, so that's why
you kind.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
Of spread by the eggs. And why don't we get
them up until the end.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
Because once they shart sewing symptoms, they go downhill very quickly.
The chicken compassion that there basically has it essentially, yes,
And we are trying to stop the spread to neighboring
farms or other places because it is so viron Most
of the time this is spread, we think predominantly through
wild birds. This is something not affecting just our domesticated chickens.

(16:59):
I mean, this is affecting domestic I'm sorry, wild waterfowl
you know, ducks and geese and stuff like that. This
is affecting them just as much as it's affecting our
much job to track all that. Yeah, No, it's a
huge wildlife compartment. Obviously tags and tracks and tests and yep, no, absolutely,
So you were talking about the chicken side of this,
but the untold story are not that enough. People don't

(17:21):
know what's going on right now. But the issue we
had is that this particular same HPAI jumped to dairy
cows last year, and so it was very specific. There
was a farm I forget if it was up in
Michigan or somewhere up in that part of the United States,
where there was an individual that actually is likely carried
it from their poultry job over to a dairy they

(17:45):
were working on. And this is I know this is
going to sound crazy to you, but this particular virus
does extraordinarily well in memory glands. Hence the reason it
is blown up in dairy cows. It is extraordinarily contagious
and dairy cows. We were able to escape it here
in California for approximately I think it was five months,

(18:06):
six months, whatever it was. But in August of this
past year we had our first confirmed cases here in California.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
What's a dude to the cows just like the chickens.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
So here very specifically, so cows already are naturally warmer
than you and I. You know, we're ninety eight point whatever.
Cows are about one on one. So the first thing
that happens is they start to spike a fever. They
stop eating because of that fever. They stopped drinking because
of that fever, which no balls into one thing after another.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
What a horrible scene for a rancher or a farmer.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
It's awful.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
I like the chickens, they throw the feed and they
just don't move as quick. I will tell something.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
For any of these listeners out here that have potential
friends that are in that daring industry that don't know
that that had this but don't know the specifics, I
will tell you that the men and women of that industry,
the employees, the owners, and everybody else. If you've been
through this, it is absolutely miserable. I mean, you are
doing all you can to protect your cattle. You are

(19:06):
trying to get the fever down so that you can
You're basically trying to force liquids into them. You're trying
to keep them so that they will get healthy again.
As you probably assume, Trevor, there's no production. Production disappears
when they're not eating. They're not drinking. So a cow
that is producing very good all of a sudden goes
to nothing, and so you try to get her healthy again,
and then when you do get her healthy again, it

(19:28):
doesn't return to where the production was before. So not
only is the dairy men or woman being affected on
the front side, as far as the costs that are
being associated with treating these cows and the hours and
everything else that is extraordinarily just.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
I can't tell you how much work goes into it.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
But also then they're losing the production side, which is
the way they get paid, and so it is a
insurance against the burn flu or when it comes to
dairy cows. On the federal side, I'm not aware of
any program. I don't believe in most is most of
these dairy men and women have that opportunity now on
the on the poultry side, the answer is yes, we're hoping.

(20:06):
I think that there is some assistance down the line
or within for these people to get through this.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
But I can tell you.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
You would hope there be if a hurricane or tornado
comes to there's federal assistance for yep. This maybe a
stupid question, but you say dairy cows the mammary glens,
the milk cows when they die, do they become hamburger meat,
the steak and all that? Do we get that from them?

Speaker 1 (20:29):
And I just want to make it so we know
that it's not if she dies on the dairy that
that would not be part of the food supply. But
at a time in which that cow becomes where the
milking economics don't make sense, she if is healthy and
is able to, will then enter the food supply as beef.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
All right now, when they get this avian fluenza, the
cows do is their meat?

Speaker 3 (20:53):
Can we No?

Speaker 1 (20:54):
We don't, no, no there, So this is the one thing
I want to just stress I can't stress high enough.
Number One, our milk supply is safe. For our milk
that is pasteurized, which is basically exposing it for very
short durations of time the high temperatures. It kills the pathogen.
So you're not gonna get this illness if you get
me unpasteurized. You just drink from the cow that morning.

(21:16):
Would does that affect humans as it passed on? Yes,
it can be passed on if you don't want to
be drinking if it's not from the farm. Right now,
when this is going on. So the crazy part is,
do you know how they actually started to identify this
is that cats are very susceptible to influenza, and there
was apparently dairy cats at one of these facilities that

(21:37):
started to see this illness that was drinking the milk
and the cats would actually die.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
That's how they figured out. Yeah, how much testing, I mean,
the state, the county going around.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
In a huge amount of great question because you know,
once you get into basically when you enter you get
some cows, you're going to enter a quarantine status.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
You can still ship milk.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
I think that's so important is that the milk will
still be able to you know, the inner of the
food supply because it's pasteurized, it is safe, there's no
issues there. But with all that said, you enter quarantine
so that we can try it as a state of
California try to get through this great. I will tell
you that I have no qualms. It's been a great
relationship between Federal USDA, the state California Department Food and
Agriculture working together trying to assist dairymen and women through this.

Speaker 3 (22:20):
It's been a long haul. There's lots of testing that
goes on.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
Because believe it or not, we can actually see it
in the milk before we see any signs on the cows,
any symptoms there. And so the testing is one of
our key ways to be able to identify if it's
on a premise or a facility there and vice versa.
They're able to test out of the quarantine if they're
showing that it's not in the milk anymore.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
Wow, you taught me a lot in just a few minutes,
and many people out there.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
Yeah, it's big.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
I have watched him over the last eight minutes speak
and eyeball the Chinese food in front of him. During
that we had a bunch of Chinese food. I will
let you go put a little more on that plate.
And I thank you for coming in people, I mean anytime,
any kind of question than trying You're very open to
talk to people. What's the best way to get a
hold of you?

Speaker 1 (23:04):
All my informations on our website FCFB dot org as
in Fresno County Farm Bureau dot org. But we are
very proud of what we do, representing the most productive
farmers and ranchers in the world right here in the
Siwicon Valley. And so definitely appreciate the opportunity always come
on with you to talk the issues because this is
an aggtown.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
Like it or hated.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
I mean, this is what we do here in this valley.
We feed the nation, we feed the world, and so
very much critical that everybody knows some of the issues
we're going through.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
Well. Enjoy that orange chicken. Absolutely, Thank you Ryan, Thank you,
Bud anything.

Speaker 4 (23:35):
This is the Trevor Cherry Show on the Valley's Power Talk.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Thank you Ryan Jacobs, some CEO the Freszo County Farm Bureau.
We got big Senate confirmations this week. Today started RFK Junior.
We got DNI nominee Telsea Gabbard. FBI's cash Betel gonna
be rolling out. I was about to say on Thursday,
and then I realized that is tomorrow. This time tomorrow,
will be saying this time tomorrow, we're hours away from

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Saturday morning. So he's in front of RFK. Would be
two days in front of two different committees. And of
course the I'm gonna say Illuminati spawn possibly, I don't
I don't know how far that the Kennedys go back
in this. I have no idea. I wear my JFK
pen around. He had his issues, yes, we all know that,

(24:24):
but I think he truly loved this country. Without a doubt.
He would be a Republican today. That's how That's how
I feel would have gone along with the the insanity.
I don't think RFK Junior's father would be now. I
can't speak for him. I don't know that. Carolyn Kennedy
Caroline Kennedy, Bobby's cousin, the daughter of JFK. She smeared

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her cousin today.

Speaker 5 (24:52):
Now that Bobby has been nominated by President Trump to
be Secretary of Health and Human Services, a position that
would put him in charge of the health of the
American people, I feel an obligation.

Speaker 4 (25:04):
To speak out tell us.

Speaker 5 (25:06):
Overseeing the FDA, the NIH, the CDC, and centers for
Medicare and Medicaid services, agencies that are charged with protecting
the most vulnerable among us, is an enormous responsibility, and
one that Bobby is unqualified to fill. I've known Bobby
my whole life. We grew up together. It's no surprise

(25:27):
that he keeps birds of prey as pets, because Bobby
himself is a predator. Siblings and cousins who Bobby encouraged
down the path of substance abuse, suffered addiction, illness, and death.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
How painful that must have been for her. How painful.

Speaker 6 (25:47):
I can't even imagine how painful that must have been
for I mean, she's a very private person, and just
from as a point of view of someone who's had
a sibling who's nominated, this is such a proud moment
for a family when someone in your family is asked
to serve. And I can't even imagine what it took

(26:10):
to say all those things and put them out in
the public square.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
I don't know, how about having your Illuminati card punch
for a new membership for another year. There you go,
that's what it took. Well, when it gets down the
situations like this, we need to bring in the experts.
I think she's not that type of person. She's very deliberate,
so I would think that this was very painful for
her and well thought out that she had to do this.

(26:37):
I ank he Ever, Now that's a record straight All right,
let's head off. We got Senator Bernie Sanders on stage
right here talking to the nominee for Health and Human Services,
Robert F. Kennedy, Junior pro vaccine you want to ask questions.

Speaker 7 (26:53):
You have started a group called the Children's Health Defense.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
Children's Health Defense. Her parents did not want to have
mercury injected into their I don't know, three week old.
A mom's group that got together and made these little
baby clothes, little onesies that had the sayings on the
front of the onesies. This is what Bernie Sanders made
a HISSI had a hissy fit over lit a.

Speaker 4 (27:18):
Richariina right now?

Speaker 7 (27:20):
Is I understand that on their website they are selling
what's called onesies, these little things clothing for babies. One
of them is tiled on facts Unafraid. Next one of
the sould for twenty six bucks a piece, by the way,
next one is no vax, no problem. They're coming before

(27:40):
this committee and you say you're pro vaccine, just want
to ask some questions, and yet your organization is making
money selling a child's product to parents for twenty six bucks,
which cast fundamental doubt on the usefulness of vaccines.

Speaker 4 (27:58):
Can you tell us now that you.

Speaker 7 (28:00):
Will, now that you are your comedy pro vaccine, that
you're going to have your organization take these products off
the market.

Speaker 8 (28:08):
Senator, I have no power over that organization, not you
heard of it. I resigned from the board.

Speaker 7 (28:13):
I was just a few months ago. You founded that.
You certainly have power you could make that. How are
you supportive of this?

Speaker 8 (28:20):
I have had nothing to do with it?

Speaker 7 (28:22):
You supportive of these onesies?

Speaker 8 (28:23):
I'm supportive of vaccines?

Speaker 3 (28:25):
Are you supportive of.

Speaker 7 (28:26):
These this clothing which is militantly anti vaccine?

Speaker 8 (28:31):
I am supportive of vaccines. Well, I want good science
and I want to protect.

Speaker 7 (28:36):
But you will not tell the organization you founded not
to continue selling that product.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
Thank you, as chim. Yeah, we have freedom of speech
in America, Bernie, freedom of speech, and I'm white as well,
and you have the freedom to be that.

Speaker 9 (28:50):
So are you lying to Congress today when you say
you are pro vaccine? Or did you lie on all
those podcasts? We have all of this one by the way.

Speaker 8 (29:01):
Yeah, the Senator, as you know, because it's been repeatedly debunked,
that statement that I made on the Lexus Freedman podcast
was a fragment of this statement. He asked me, and
anybody who actually goes and looks at that podcast and
we'll see this. He asked me, are there vaccines that
are saving effective? And I said to him, some of

(29:24):
the live virus vaccines are And I said, there are
no vaccines that are saving effective. And I was going
to continue for every person. Every medicine has people who
are sensitive to them, including vaccines, right, so he interrupted
me at that point. I've corrected it many times, including
on national TV. You know about the Senator Widen, So

(29:47):
bring this up right now? Is dishonest?

Speaker 2 (29:49):
Yes, listen to a senator prison warden boy, she kind
of she kind of gets a little bit unhinged here.

Speaker 8 (29:58):
The same chemicals that kill fish make people sick. Also, today,
Americans overall health is in grievous condition. Over seventy percent
of adults and a third of children are overweight or obese.
Diabetes is ten times more prevalent than it was during
the nineteen sixties. Cancer among young people is rising by

(30:21):
one or two percent a year. Autoimmune diseases, neurodevelopmental disorders, Alzheimer's, asthma, ADHD, depression, addiction,
and a host of other physical and mental health conditions
are all on the rise, some of them exponentially. The
United States has worse health than any other developed nation.

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We spend more on healthcare, at least double and in
some cases triple as other countries.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
All right, I'm going to let you hear Elizabeth Warren
when I come back. I got way more of this
audio to show how unhinged that they are. This is
a man that says, America, I want to make sure
what you're putting into your body is safe. Nah no yah,
anything like that. And these senators that are quizzing them

(31:11):
took so much money from big pharma. M h followed
the money. We'll come back. Listen more audio next.

Speaker 4 (31:20):
This is the tremor Chary show on the Valley's Power Talk.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
So you're asking me, you're asking me not to sue.

Speaker 8 (31:33):
Mike, Yeah, you are, That's exactly what you're doing.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
Oh unhinged. I slowed her down, listened to a new
no Calm down, Calm Down, Pocahontas. This is all a
spiritual issue. RFK Junior realizes that.

Speaker 4 (32:00):
Not just a national security issue.

Speaker 8 (32:01):
It is a spiritual issue, and it is a moral issue.
We cannot live up to our role as an exemplary nation,
as a moral authority around the world, and we're writing
off an entire generation of kids.

Speaker 5 (32:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
I was watching Larry David's wife, Cheryl sit behind him,
his wife in real life back there, and I think
I saw Megan Kelly back behind. Yes, she was there
in the audience, a row right behind Cheryl. Maybe they
know each other. I liked when he said this.

Speaker 8 (32:29):
The whole problems in this country that we must face honestly,
and the first thing I've done every morning for the
past twenty years is to get on my knees and
pray to God that he would put me in a
position to end the chronic disease epidemic and to help
America's children. Boo, I'm so grateful to President Trump the

(32:53):
opportunity to sit before you today and seek your support
and partnership in this endeavor.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
Oh, get off your knees, praying to God to help
us stop that.

Speaker 3 (33:04):
What a bad guy.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
He talked about insurance, and I couldn't see from the angle,
but he could see the Democrats' faces when he's talking
about private health insurance. Listen, Oh, it's Americans.

Speaker 8 (33:14):
If they can afford to be we'll be on private insurance. Oh.
We need to figure out ways to improve care, particularly
for elderly from veterans, for the poor in this country,
and medicaid. The current model is not doing it. I
would ask you know any of the Democrats who are
chuckling just now. Do you think all that money, the

(33:37):
nine hundred billion dollars that we're sending to medicaid every
year has made Americans healthy? Do we think it's working
for anybody?

Speaker 2 (33:44):
Yeah? Keep chuckling, keep chuckling away. Now I'm going to
play you. He was asking a question by Republican senator
about abortion today. This has been a big issue with
a lot of conservatives, and Rifley so because when he
was candidate our FK Junior. This is what he said
about abortion. Should there be a limit or you're saying

(34:06):
all the way up through full term, a woman has
a right to have an abortion.

Speaker 8 (34:09):
Yeah. I mean, I don't think any woman ever, ever
in history has said I'm going to have a you know,
I'm going to have a baby, I'm going to get
pregnant and carry that baby to eight months of term,
and then I'm going to terminate the pregnancy. I don't
think anybody wants to do that. We should leave it
to the woman. We shouldn't have government.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
Involved, even if it's full term. Even if it's full term.
A very catholic of him. He was asked this question today.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
You're going to handle time.

Speaker 8 (34:40):
I'm going to support President Trump's policies. On Title ten.
I agree with President Trump that every abortion is a tragedy.
I agree with them that we cannot be a moral
nation if we have one point two million abortions here.
I agree with them that the states should control abortion.
President Trump has told me that he wants to in

(35:04):
late term abortions, and he wants to protect conscious exemptions,
and that he wants to and federal funding for abortions
here abroad. That's Title ten. I'm going to do. I
serve as the pleasure of the president. I'm going to
implement his policies.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
I serve at the pleasure of the president. I'm going
to implement his policies. I at this juncture, I'll handle that.
I know maybe how he really feels, but he's going
to do what the Trump administration wants him to do.
Harry was when they ask him, will you commit right
now not to fire anybody in the health arena that

(35:39):
you know what they mean is somebody that doesn't agree
with you or something like that. Listen to this great response.

Speaker 10 (35:47):
Will you commit not to fire anyone in the health
arena who currently works on protecting Americans from cyber attacks
in their healthcare file.

Speaker 8 (35:57):
I will I will commit not siring anybody who's doing
their job.

Speaker 10 (36:02):
Based on your opinion, based upon your opinion, or your
political agenda, or mister Trump's political.

Speaker 8 (36:09):
Ena based upon my opinion.

Speaker 10 (36:11):
So I guess that means a lot of the folks
who've had any type of views on vaccines will be.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
Out of work.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Well, oh, it's up to him. Are they doing their job?
It's refreshing. This is what I have wanted the entire
time from the Republican Party is to actually have a
backbone to stand up to not waiver to say no
criminal illegal aliens are criminals. They committed a crime. No,

(36:43):
we're not going to allow individuals out there that have
harmed people, hurt people, rate people, stab people. We're going
to come get them for crying out crazy. There are
three hundred and twenty so that we know of. You know,
there's probably more unincompass need alien children that oops, we
lost track of. Do you remember what happened in Fresno

(37:06):
County when it was reported that some foster kids were
sleeping on desk? Remember that? Remember the outrage? How do
we dare treat children? And rightfully so. But we knew
their names, we knew where they were. I'm glad that
got fixed, but there's three hundred and twenty thousand children
in America.

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