Catching up With Valley Congressman Tom McClintock

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
That was my response to Biden's dark branding speech.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
I wanted to let everybody hear again, how you all
the issues that you've been fighting? I tell you, with chaos, right,
we forget some things sometimes, don't we.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Yeah, well, yes, but hopefully we learn from them. And
I think Americans did in twenty twenty four, and hopefully
those dark Brandon days are behind us.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Yes, I remember when you went off on Newsom with
the French laundry. Remember those days. Well, I was about
to talk about black bears, But I'm smelling some black
coffee in here, aren't I. I love how coffee makes
a room smell. I don't like it myself, but I
love it. I've never been able to say anybody, hey,
let's go to coffee.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
All of the essential vitamins and minerals to get you
through the day.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
And you've never been sugar cream. It's always been oh yes, unadulterated, unadulterated. Now,
of course, your area hasn't been jerrymandered yet it still
remains in the mountains, right, You're not suddenly down part
of sand Diego with all them.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
Mine is one of the very few remaining Republican districts
in the state. But it is absolutely devastating to the
to to the whole concept of of of simple fairness.
And you know that's what the Independent reapportion Commission protects
Californians from. This, this this political abuse of the power

(01:24):
of Gary mandring, who's been going on for a long time.
It's named after Elberts Gary, the governor of Massachusetts. To
tell you how far back that goes. He was one
of the signers of the Declaration of Independence. Uh. He
figured out that he could design a district to benefit
his party and uh a, and it looked like a salamander,

(01:45):
and uh a newspaper published that, but they called it
a Gary mander, and the name stuck. And uh ever since,
uh it's gone from artwork to to uh granular science.
With all of the digital computerization we have now, you
can literally pretty much eliminate a political party simply by

(02:09):
radical garymandering. And that's exactly what Gavin Newsom is doing.
And that's exactly what Californians are protected from in their
constitution with this independent commission. This independent Commission. In the
last reapportionment, they held one hundred and ninety six public
meetings they received over thirty thousand communications from California citizens.

(02:31):
They listened to every constituency, they listened to every community,
and over a period of nine months in the open,
they drafted a consensus plan. That is what Gavin Newsom
is tearing up with a plan that was done in
three days behind closed doors by self interested politicians. And

(02:51):
I don't think it's going to fly.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
In eys a voter if I wanted to say something
about it in a public comment session. They're not holding
them money exactly. Oh no, of course not.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
And the only place you're going to get to say
is your vote at the ballot box on November.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Fourth, Gary Mandering, we got to remember that. Director Ryan
Aigel will be the correct talk show Gary Mandering, Thank you,
Congressman for that. They're two thousand and ten.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
Actually you can call this one a Gavin Mander.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
I think Gavin Mandering dipty do Mandaring, I call him
governor dipty do. A lot of people don't know the
hair gel from the member back in the day, dipty
do did they have that out here in California.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
I'm not going to I'm not going to admit to
remembering that.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Well, you'll remember the Nixon sticker on your on your car,
on your ride.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Yeah, yeah, I did have one of those. I was
too young to have a ride.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
I had my notebook on the notebook. Well, uh, twenty
ten California voters. I wasn't back in the state yet,
but they voted, hey, we want the people.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
Well and in fact, twenty ten, the Democrats tried to
abolish the Independent Commission and voters rejected them.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
Six Okay, now, okay, we're in a whole different now.
It can be looked at as you know, Trump arrangement syndrome.
Do you think the same Democrats in the state with
the ball You know, that's.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
What they're trying to do, is make it a referenced
about Trump but everything. But bear in mind, you know
this all started not with Trump, started with the Democrats
suing Galveston County because they wanted another racially garymandered district.
The lower court agreed with them, it was appealed, it
went to the Circuit court, a fifth circuit court. This
circuit court says, you can't garymander on the basis of race.

(04:31):
That is a fundamental violation of equal Protection Clause. So
then the Texas Texas legislature looks at that and says, well,
we've got like five or six racially Gary mandered districts.
To be in compliance with this court decision, we have
to we have to redistrict. Now, I'm not defending what
they've done. I think they have abused that power of inexcusably,

(04:57):
but Texas law allows them to do that. California law
forbids them to do what Gavin Newsman's doing, and that's
why he now has a constitutional measure on the ballot,
because that's the only way he can circumvent the constitution.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
So this convict swings a simonem in. Carl Demyo was
saying he was back during the Biden times DJ the court.
They all said, is that the same Galveston thing you're
talking about where they came in and said we have
to have a certain minority representation.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
Yeah, well that was the original suit and was brought
by Democrats to try to get an extra vote in redistricting.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
So they started the Texas Yeah, exactly, exactly. You don't
hear that too often.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
No, no, But what really is going on is this
there are so many people now fleeing California. We've had
two and a half million more people move out of
California that have moved in in the last decade. And
it's not just California. Wherever the Left is taking control
New York, Illinois, people are leaving now by the millions. Now.

(05:56):
In the next reapportionment, which will be based on population,
California could lose as many as five seats. Forget about redistricting.
They would lose five seats just because people are leaving California.
And guess who gains five seats Texas, where people are moving,
same thing in New York, they're likely to lose three seats.
Who's going to gain three seats Florida where everybody's moving.

(06:20):
So I think the Democrats are looking at this natural
effect of people fleeing their policies to other states. It's
going to cost them a number of congressional seats, and
they're trying to shore that up in this panicky move.
Remember they originally said, well, this was because this is
the retaliation for what Texas is doing. But they removed

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the provisions that were conditional on the Texas reapportionment, and
they passed the California Gary Manner or Gavin Mander before
Texas passed its maps. So I think this is something
that they've been planning for some time, and it's a
panicky reaction to the fact that people are fleeing Democratic
states and moving to Republican states, and that's going to

(07:03):
have a big impact on the congressional reapportionment in twenty thirty.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
My guess is Congressman Tom McClintock. And let me remind
you to keep in mind when you hear talk about
the census, you're mentioning all the people leaving California, leaving
the blue states. That's going to get more representation in
the red states. They need to count the illegal aliens
they have to.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Well, that's the other thing. Of nine million illegal aliens
that the Democrats were planning on having counted in the
census that would then pad their districts are now going
home under the law, and I think that is also
playing heavily into their calculations. But the main thing is

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people are rejecting their policies and voting with their feet.
They're moving to red states. So red states are going
to be gaining congressional seats. Blue states are going to
be losing them, and that's what they're trying to shore
up well.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
Yesterday Dylan Law Group, they fouled an emergency petition saying
that it violates the California Constitution. Do you think they'll
have any success in the courts.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
In the California course. That's so stacked against us right now.
But you know, getting back to the other point about
the illegal aliens, even with the independent Commission, the deck
is heavily stacked against Republicans. Republicans got forty percent of
the congressional vote in the last election. In California, they
got seventeen percent of the seats. And by the way,

(08:25):
if the Texas Legislature picks up five Republican seats through
their redistricting, all that means is that Texas will be
as lopsided for the Republicans as California is already lopsided
for the Democrats. Of what Gavin Newson wants to do
is take forty percent of the vote and instead of

(08:46):
delivering eighteen percent of the seats to Republicans, apartment seventeen
percent of the seats of Republicans, instead delivering about eight
percent and ignoring the will of so many California voters.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
It's been fascinating. The statue gave out about California. We've
been hearing it with other states across America. The percentage
of Republican votes.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
Illinois forty Republicans got forty seven percent of the congressional vote.
They got eighteen percent of the congressional seats in Illinois.
Then you look at Massachusetts, Republicans got thirty five percent
of the vote, they got zero percent of the seats.
Look nationally, Democrats in the last election got forty seven
percent of the congressional votes. They got forty nine percent

(09:30):
of the congressional seats. That translates to about eight seats
more than their vote would have entitled them. So it
is already skewed toward the Democrats. This skews it even further.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
The Gary mandering, he said, back during the seventeen hundreds,
what was the animal? They said, but it looks like salamander. Salamander.
I saw Governor Pritzker on with Stephen Colbert, and even
Colbert to his credit, I'll say, he goes, Governor, this
is like a scorpion tale, you know, swinging around for
some of those districts that they maneuver.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
As one of those in northern California, all of the
rural communities in the northeast corner California. I used to
represent them many years ago. Little counties like Lassen Modoc.
They're representative is no longer going to be elected by them.
Their representative is going to be selected by Marin County
voters three hundred miles away. And then you've got towns

(10:23):
like Lodi, small town, not all that far from here.
They're now split into three congressional districts.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
That's well, isn't it odd? Though? That you're my congressman.
I live in North Fresno and you represent a guy
that lives on Lake Tahoe. Not evenmore.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
I lost and actually I lost Tahoe in the last Okay,
how far I go to Western Eldorado County? All right,
so Plaserville, Eldorado Hills.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
A little bit more, I guess, like it, do you
feel that your district map is drawn correctly?

Speaker 1 (10:54):
Uh? Well, like I said, I'm one of the you're talking,
you're talking about.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
The current You're treated fair with your district. It's mapping.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
It's a big district. But yeah, I mean, I've I've
never questioned the fairness of the of the reapportioned map
of the commission. So yeah, I'm fine with it. Although
I did lose Plaster County, I gained Stanislaus County, and
politically that was an improvement.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Yeah, it doesn't seem like though, even the independence that
they say are on this, you know, independent commission map
drawing of we the people heavily democratically stacked designing the
maps that we've been voting with over the last few days.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
Again, they're they're they're balance between Democrat Republican independent commissioners.
But yeah, the complaint has been, as I said, we
got forty vote seventeen percent of.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
The stop truck stop and have them draw Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
But a lot of yeah, but a lot of that
is the fact they count illegal aliens for congressional apportionment purposes,
and that's one of the things that the Trump's trying
to change. That makes no sense at all that people
who are illegally in this country and subject to removal
under our laws, are somehow counted every ten years for

(12:05):
congressional representation. That's nuts.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
Well, we have in California. I feel kind of fortunate.
I remember many summers of looking up and being able
to stare at the sun at three in the afternoon
because of all the smoke from all the fires, you know,
Pacific Palisades. Of course, what happened down in southern California
was horrible, but it seems like we've had a relatively
mile But we got another one going right now in
Fresne County called the Garnet Fire. I want to come back.

(12:32):
You got a few bills in there that are talking
about that forced up there. My in studio guests is
Congressman Tom McClintock.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
More next, hang on, this is the Tremor Chary Show
on the Valley's Power Talk.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
My inn studio guests California Congressman Tom McClintock. Let's talk
about the Garnet fire burning in Fresno County has said
eighty five hundred acres as have this morning. They've ordered
evacuations northeast up there in this year National Forest, and
we got one in the Wine Country as well. A

(13:05):
few years ago. NAPA really towards stuff.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
Oh well, in what was it twenty two of we
lost four million acres to catastrophic fire in California. That
is what we used to lose centuries ago before We
began managing our forests, and what that warns us is
we've abandoned our forest to nature. That's how nature removes

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excess timber. Nature doesn't carry it out. Nature burns it out.
When we carried it out, we had healthy and fire
resistant and resilient forests. When we passed the environmental laws,
it made it very, very difficult to do that. Nature's
return to burnout the excess, and that's what we're facing it.

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We've lost a quarter of our national forest to catastrophic
fire in the last ten years, literally twenty five percent.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
Now I'm going to say that, I'll even say the
majority of environ menalists really do want to protect the earth,
and we got a big percentage out there that are
nut jobbers. Why don't the ones, though, that do really
want to protect the earth not see what you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
I don't know. I can't look into people's minds or hearts,
but I can tell you this. The policies that they
pursued in the nineteen seventies National Environmental Policy Act and
Dangered Species at California Environmental Quality Act, they promised that
these would improve the forest environment. Well, we've lived with
those laws now for fifty years, and I think we're

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entitled to ask how is the forest environment doing? And
the answer is absolutely damning. Their policies have destroyed our
National force. Now again, nature doesn't care that it takes
hundreds of years for a forest to regrow. Nature's got
all the time in the world. We mortals don't have
all the time in the world. We wanted to pass

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on these beautiful forests from one generation to the next,
and that's why we formed the Forest Service and the
other land management agencies, so they would send out foresters
every year into the National Force, mark off the excess timber.
Then we'd auction that off to logging companies to remove
They paid us. A quarter of the revenues from those
federal timber auctions went into the local communities that were

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affected by the public lands. The other seventy five percent
we put back into our forest and we had healthy,
thriving forces. Instead of losing four million acres a year
to catastrophic fire, we got that down to a very
consistent quarter million throughout the twentieth century until these laws
made it impossible for us to do the gardening. So

(15:35):
nature has returned to do the gardening for us. And
nature is a lousy gardener. If you doubt that for
a moment, just leave your own garden alone for fifty
years and tell me what it's going to.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
Look like or my backyard. Right now, my guests Congress,
from Tom Mclintock's let's look into instead into the heart
of the politicians. What argument do you hear back when
you stand upon the floor in Congress and talk about
how we need to protect our force. How did they
argue back, You're wrong.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
Loggers are evil. It's evil for anyone to make money
from our national lands. It's basically, it's Marcus Marxist drivel.
It's what it is. And and this this religious belief
that we should just leave nature alone to take care
of our forests. Well, as I said, nature's got a

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very different mind when it comes to our forests. Uh,
then we mortals that want want to preserve them from
one generation to the next.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
Well, it kind of self explanatory. And the title to
put out the Fire Act, This isn't about families that
go camping and have their camp site. This is about
fires that the state sees right and goes, well, it's
not big enough yet, we're just keeping an eye on it.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
Well. Worse than that, the Forest Service will leave a
lot of these fires to burn because they consider that
to be treatment of the land that they can put
in their reports. But the problem with that is that
if you well, the Tamarack Fire was the in for
my bill. That was a fire that began with a
lightning strike July fourth, a few years ago. That fire

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smoldered for eight days. During those eight days, the Forest
Service knew by the way, the local fire department went
there to put it out, and the Forest Service told
them to back off. And then the Forest Service flew
helicopters over that fire every day for eight days to
take pictures for their Facebook page, but never bothered to
drop a single bucket of water on the fire to

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put it out. On the eighth day, it exploded out
of control. It destroyed seventy thousand acres of our forests,
took out dozens of homes, and it was so unnecessary,
and their only excuse was, well, it wasn't doing very
much at the time. And my response to that is,
if you find a rattlesnake curled up in your bedroom,

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do you just leave it there and monitor it? Because
it's not doing very much, or do you kill it
before it does. And that's the way the Forest Service
used to operate. We used to whenever they spotted a fire,
they would jump right on top of it and put
it out, because it's a hell of a lot easier
and safer to put out one hundred little fires than
it is to allow one of them to explode out
of control, UH and create these these massive mega fires.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
I had no idea. I would have already assumed that
they would put out little.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
Well, they used to. They used to, But in the
nineteen seventies, the same environmental folly of was transferred was
put into practice by the Forest Service. They're called let burns. Well,
there are some forest fires that we should just let
burn because that's nature's way.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
UH.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
And there is a there is a place for prescribed
burns in UH in forest management. But an active fire,
particularly in a tinder box of forest, is not the
appropriate place of it was responsible for if you remember,
the massive Yosemite fire not putting seventy of a yellow

(19:00):
Stone fire in the nineteen eighties was caused by one
of these let burns, hundreds of thousands of acres. Reagan
was president then he said when he found out about
this idiotic let burn policy, he immediately shut it down
ordered immediate attacks on all fires. Unfortunately, the next year
he left and the policy returned, and now it's been responsible.

(19:23):
Well just the other a month ago, we had the
catastrophic fire on the North room of the Grand Canyon
that was also started by a let burn that they
allowed to get completely out of control. So this bill,
it says a number of things, but the most important
thing it says is you jump on these fires immediately.
If you want to use prescribed burns, first of all,

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you need to go through and thin the force by
removing the excess timber, and then you do a control
burn just for the forest floor that you've got left.
But you don't simply monitor or a fire and wait
till it gets out of control.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Those dead trees are matt sticks, that's all those are
sticking up, ye, Congressman explained the Proven Forest Management Act.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
Oh, well, that also goes back to these policies we've
been discussing. In twenty sixteen, we got a reform into
these laws, and it's said that for forest ending projects
in the Tahoe Basin under ten thousand acres you can
get a categorical exclusion from NEPA. Now. The reason that's
important is if you want to thin a forest today,

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under federal law, it requires an average of five years
of environmental studies at the cost of millions of dollars.
These environmental reports are typically eight hundred plus pages. It
costs more than the value of the timber that you're
trying to remove, so not a lot of it gets done.
It ends up costing us money rather than making us money.

(20:55):
We got a category exclusion from that nonsense. For the
Tahoe Basin. That's done is to take the environmental review
process from an average of five years down to a
few months. It's taken the environmental reports for more than
eight hundred pages down to a few dozen. It's taken
the timber harvested off of the federal lands in the
Tahoe Basin from a million board feet a year to

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nine million board feet a year. It has tripled the
amount of treated acreage in the basin. And that's what
saved the city of South Lake Tahoe from the Caldoor
fire a few years ago. The Caldoor fire hit a
tract that had been treated under this new authority. The
fire laid down and the firefighters were able to put
it out before it reached the town. Right across the

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boundary line is Grizzly Flats. Grizzly Flats is not under
that authority. We have been trying for a decade to
treat a tract of land that was an imminent threat
to Grizzly Flats. It had been held up in environmental
litigation all those years. The same fire hit that track,

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exploded out of control and destroyed the town of Grizzly Flat.
So anyway, the bill simply takes the proven policy that
we've been employing in the whole basin for the last
nine years that again saved South Lake Tall from burning,
and apply it nationally.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
Well, that sounds like that would create jobs for people
to come up there and get all the lumber out
of there. We create money, and it would save money
in the future because we're not burning our forests down,
so exactly.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
Yeah, And the irony is, you know, half this era
are owned by private timber companies and they make money
keeping those forests in superb condition. They're they're you know,
constantly removing the excess, planting new trees and making a fortune.
We used to do that as a federal government. The

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environmental laws stopped us from doing that. And now our
federal forests are in decrepit condition. Uh, they're morbidly overgrown
of we've got four times the timber density that the
land can support in the on the federal lands, we've
had an eighty percent decline and temper harvested off those

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federal lines since nineteen eighteen, and we've had a concomminate
increase in acres destroyed by fire. So private land companies
keep their lands in excellent condition and make money. The
federal government keeps its lands in decrepit condition and loses money.
What's wrong with that picture?

Speaker 2 (23:24):
Well, I'm for making money. My in studio guest is
Congressman Tom McClintock. He's also chairman of the Immigration Subcommittee
in Congress. We got ice in Trump versus California and
New some the reality more We Congressman Tom McClintock.

Speaker 3 (23:39):
Next, this is Super Tuesday with Trevor Carey on The
Valley's Power Talk.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
Congresson, thank you for your time. Appreciate you stepping in
and sitting down with us. For the life of me,
I can't believe that Democrats do not see that President
Trump is basically forcing them into a corner to say
we support criminals.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
Well, they have been pretty uncanny yet taking the twenty
percent side of every eighty twenty issue.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
They'll take the three percent side of a ninety seven
to three issue, aren't they.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
Yeah, Well, it's sad in a way it used to be.
I've spent my life arguing with liberals over the appropriate
size and scope of government, but we always agreed on fundamentals.
We always agreed in freedom and speech. We always agreed
to you ought to be judged on the content of
your character and not the color of your skin. We
all believed in due process of law and equal justice

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under law. We all believed in the Constitution. The modern
left doesn't share any of those values. So I think
that liberals today have far more in common with conservatives
than they have with the radical left that's taken over
the Democratic Party.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
Last hour, I played some audio from Joe Biden in
nineteen eighty nine, and when it was over, I said,
if you just took that transcript, he sounds like he
could be a running mate for JD. Vance. In twenty
twenty eight, it's so conservative.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
They have veered far far to the left, and now
you're you know, like what Reagan said. You know, he's
a former Democrat and he says, I didn't leave the
Democratic Party. The Democratic Party left me. And I think
there are a lot of Democrats that feel that way today.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
Well, I think some of the polling numbers and voter
registrations are showing that the decline and the Democrats and
the uptick in the in the Republicans. With this, I
kind of telling everybody and myself, we were all excited
after the election, and we're going to deport we don't
even know what is it. Let's just say ten plus million.
We don't know how many were unvetted that surged in.

(25:36):
And I've been telling boy, get your expectations a little
bit lower. This is going to be very difficult to do.
I mean, they go after you know, weed growers that
have illegal alien kids that don't have any adults around them,
and they try and stop that from happening.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
Well, this was the largest illegal mass migration in human history.
It shouldn't surprise that the Democrats unleashed on this country. Oh,
it shouldn't surprise us that today that now has to
be followed by the biggest legal repatriation of migrants in
the history of the world, and that's what's going on

(26:12):
right now. But it is I mean, the numbers are
truly remarkable. I saw I think a few research reported
over two million foreign nationals have now departed of the
United States, and most of them voluntarily. There have been
about three hundred and thirty thousand deportations. The rest are
voluntary deportions because the President gave everyone in the country

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illegally a choice. You can leave on your own terms.
We'll pay for your airfare, we'll put up one thousand
dollars to help you get resettled, and you can then
apply for legal entry into the country, as every legal
immigrant does, or if we have to come and get you,
you're going to be deported and we will never allow

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you back in. And so I think it was like
somewhere around one point six one point eight million they're
estimating have now self deported, have now left voluntarily, and
good for them because that if they if they're truly
desirous about becoming Americans, then the first thing we ask
is you obey our laws and you apply for legal

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entry into the country.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
The self deportation, great idea. I'm not going to refer
to legal aliens as insects, but in my analogy here,
if you have insects that are invading your house, you
get rid of the source of what they're coming there.
If you've got ants in your kitchen, there's.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
Something that they're coming far about.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
Well, what I'm saying is we need to draw up
the magnets that are drawing them here. And that first
thing goes back to nineteen eighty two Supreme Court in Texas.
With free education, I would tell you right now, I
would say eighty percent of illegal alien families here love
their kids as much as any American loves their kid,
and they would want them to be educated. Well, if

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that magnet was taken away, that would write there, boy, a.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
Lot they are human beings. And you know, I realize
a lot of them are escaping. You think they're escaping poverty,
escaping escaping crime. But that does not give them the
right to violate our laws of uh and to to
enter this country contrary to those laws, especially when millions

(28:23):
of legal immigrants obey those laws, wait patiently in line,
do everything that our country asks of them to do uh,
you know, and that's the difference. You know, it's fairly
simple situation. Without enforcement of our immigration laws, we have
no immigration laws. Without immigration laws, we have no border,
and without a border, we have no country.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
But short of military trucks going up and down the streets,
there there's no possible way that we're going to round
up even in the next ten years. Could do we
have first the will the will power to do it
as a country, do you how do we do that?

Speaker 1 (28:59):
How do we get The administration is prioritizing the first
priority or the six hundred thousand criminal illegal aliens that
Biden allowed into this country, and Tom Holman has said,
if we find other illegals in their company, we're you know,
we're going to enforce the law and we're going to
deport them as well. The next tier is about two

(29:23):
point four million illegal migrants who have applied for asylum,
have had their day in court, have been ordered to
be removed by a court, and have refused to obey
that order. And while that's going on, as I said,
I think there are a lot of illegal migrants who
are looking at the choices, looking at the determination of

(29:46):
this administration to actually enforce immigration law. And by the way,
that immigration law, immigration Nationality Act specifically says any adult
who is here in the country illegally shall be the aimed.
There's nothing discretionary about that. That's the law. Shall be detained.
That's the law that Biden simply ignored for four years.

(30:08):
And of being deported is not a punishment. Being deported
is an administrative act. Uh And anyone who is in
detention can leave that detention at any time they want
to any country that will accept them, but they're not
allowed to leave into our country. That's the law.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
But the judges aren't even following the laws.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
Well, I think most many of them are. I think
we're far more court cases, particularly at.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
The guess the big stories. It seems to be like.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
You have a lot of rogue judges at the at
the lower court level. But as it gets up, the
court system of the administration is on very solid ground
and they're simply enforcing an existing law and a law
that was written again not to keepeople out, but to
assure that when people come to this country, they come

(31:03):
with a sincere desire to become Americans, to raise their
children as Americans, and to adopt a common language, a
common culture, and a common appreciation of American constitutional principles.
If we're going to tolerate illegal immigration, there's no point
to legal immigration, and that entire foundation of a nation

(31:24):
based on legal immigration starts to crumble. That's why this
is so important. And by the way, we've gone through
the pathology of unlimited illegal immigration, and what we found
is it was destroying our schools by packing our classrooms
with non English speaking students. It's destroying our hospitals by

(31:46):
flooding emergency rooms with illegals demanding care. It was breaking
our social safety net, everything from food pantries to homeless
shelters meant to help Americans in distress. It flooded our
streets with fentanyl and brought in some of the most
violent criminal gangs in the world. Those are not victimless crimes.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
Oh, and those are those magnets. Free education, free healthcare, Congressman,
one of your co workers, aoc I remember, heard down
crying about the kids at the border being separated during
Trump one point zero. We reached out to a couple
sheriffs up and down the valley and asked them if
they've heard from the Feds, if they've heard from DHS
Tom Homan about the three hundred thousand missing unaccompanied children.

(32:36):
You know, we have Amber alerts if an American kid
is missing. We don't know. Nobody really seems Democrats and
personally don't even seem to care about this.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
That was one of the most stunning aspects of this
that more than three hundred thousand unaccompanied miners were allowed
into this country and the legislation we passed out of
the House says no, if it's an unaccompanied miner, you
do what what you would do if if they showed
up at your doorstep, you would find out where they

(33:05):
live and take them home. Instead, the Biden administration trafficked
them into the United States, left them with often poorly
vetted or unvetted custodians, not their family, and then lost
track of them. A lot of them went into sexual slavery,
into labor slavery. Uh, and we don't know where they are.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
You know, how many homers are alive, We don't know.
We don't even know their health. It's that's uh, that's evil.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
Yeah, it really yeah. And and anyway, those days are
behind us now thanks to the people of the of
the United States, saying they're tired of this. They and they,
you know, as as as Trump said, we didn't need
new laws, we needed a new president, and we got
one who's actually enforcing those laws. And the result is,

(33:58):
among many other things, of working wages are again on
the rise they felt during the Biden administration because of
this huge flood of illegal labor. As that illegal labor
is leaving the country of American wages are rising. Under
the Biden years of most of the new jobs went

(34:20):
to foreign nationals. Now they're going to American citizens. And
that's not coincidental. That's what happens when you enforce your
immigration laws.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
Congressman, I appreciate your time. I appreciate you coming in person.
That means a whole lot here really is I really
I like to see in the person right across from
me as well. And thank you for the Ryan he
left us the Epstein files. We'll read it to thank you. Congressman.
We'll clear up a lot. Thanks God bless you.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
This is the Trevor carry Show. On the Valley's Power.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
Talk yesterday, I was talking about Burning Man and how
they didn't know they had an orgy dome and orgy
tent that they set up at their big infested music
and arts festival It's out in Nevada. Last year they
all got down trapped in a muddy hell hole. The
rains poured down, people got stuck, the lines were forever.

(35:13):
They had won death last year and again director Ryan
Nigel said, it's like seventy thousand people that show it
to this.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
Well.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
Yesterday, the first day of the festival. I didn't even
know the first day of the festival was yesterday. When
I was talking about this orgy dome at burning Man
where people go in and yeah, just like the title says,
they all have sex together. I called it Sodom and Gomora,
didn't I yesterday it got destroyed like Sodom and Gamoor.

(35:41):
It wasn't fire in Brimstone. It was a wicked dust
storm run the camp sites wins over fifty miles an hour.
The orgy dome, according to the Gateway Pundit says, was
completely destroyed by the storm. Hell, I don't here that, huh,

(36:03):
all right. Probably some hypothermia at night and some heat
stroke in the day. Who would pick a place like
that at this time of the year to go out
to the heat well, I guess if it's called burning man,
I guess that wouldn't be during a cold time. But anyhow,
I think I think God. I think he looked down
and said, all right, they're doing it again. I fluttered

(36:25):
him out last time. We'll send in some fayroab plagues.
Do it next year. I guess you might have some frogs.
All your beer turns the blood. Who knows what's going on?
All right again? Thanks to Congressman Tom McClintock. That was
a good sit down with him.

Speaker 3 (36:44):
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