Fresno’s Underpass Fiasco: Promised in 1-2 Years, Delivered in 8

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
High speed rail. Well, we got a we got good
news here involving high speed rail. I'll be honest when
there's good news, I'm not just gonna harp on everything.
I will give the good news your Central Valley dot Com.
I read the headline here. Let's see personal high speed
rail underpass opens. Good. From Chinatown. That's that's good. Chinatown

(00:25):
right into the into the heart of downtown Fresno. From Chinatown,
right into the the rectum of downtown. Okay, but it
took eight years. Central Fish Company down there saw business
drop as soon as they closed us eight years ago,
down ten percent. The owner was quoted here in this article.

(00:47):
It was closed way back in twenty seventeen. You know
what they you know what they said. You know what
they said. Then you know what the city said, then
you know what they that. It would take a year,
maybe half the two years. Eight years later. Guys, they
built the Roman Collegemin eight days in the year seventy

(01:12):
So it takes us eight years to build an underpass.
This is so wrong that we would never ever hire
a construction company to break up all the concrete in
your driveway and lay new concrete down and build a
deck out back with this kind of behavior. You would
fire me to be at the Better Business Bureau. You'd

(01:33):
be online leaving messages like crazy, don't hire this company.
We don't put up with this in the real world,
but we do here in California. All right, I'm sure
there was a big ribbon cutting ceremony back in the day. Yeah, yeah,
just just gonna take It's gonna take eight years to

(01:56):
finish this hogwash, as Tony Soprano crap man going on,
it's happening over the country. I came across this Fox
article that more than a dozen federal infrastructure projects are
over budget by at least one hundred and sixty two
billion dollars. This is from the Senate Doge Caucus. They

(02:17):
said Department of Transportation Secretary Duffy helped uncover it. Biden
administration wouldn't make it public. You know, when we hear
things like one hundred and sixty two billion dollars, and
let's say this project or that project was, oh, this
one's just three billion dollars over budget, guys, that's not
a rounding error. Not when we were talking billions and

(02:39):
even millions and hundreds of thousands and tens of thousands, Okay,
tens of thousands at the end, you're off even hundreds
of thousands on big product. Okay, if they finished it
under time in one point something million over some big
freeway expansion, I'd be like, hey, all right, there, things happen,
but not one hundred and sixty two billion dollars. Not

(03:02):
when it's a certain project and it's a billion dollars over.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
Nope.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
And when they talk about being behind schedule, you know what,
I'm behind schedule. You know what? You know why I
get behind schedule. I lose track of time. I don't
set out to just go I'm gonna fully derail my
life if I was that, if I was that much
behind schedule, let's see, it's August first, twenty twenty five,

(03:33):
I would be doing the show from how far back
in the past year. That that much behind schedule. You
just think about it.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
Man.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
We don't operate our own lives that way. We get
fired if we're that much behind schedule. Hey, guys, I
got a great show about the COVID lockdowns. And you
know how Newsome was putting these color coded things on counties.
Now that wait, what are you talking about. I'm a
little behind schedule. But that's going to be the show today. Okay,

(04:06):
No that I mean in Minneapolis, there's a fourteen mile
light rail extension. They've been trying to build this three years.
The double the price tag to current two point seventy
four billion dollars fourteen mile light rail extension two point
seven billion dollars project. In Honolulu, they need nine point

(04:31):
nine billion more for that to be completed. Come on, man,
we need that, We need that money infused in. We
got to add that money. I'm sure over in Honolulu
they're saying, man, high shoot rail, Gay, it's more than
just a train. You know.

Speaker 4 (04:50):
You can't say this enough. The high speed rail is
more than a train project.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Yes, we know that. I'm sure they're saying it all
over the world when these.

Speaker 4 (04:58):
It's about economic train information, that's about the body, the
enormous potential of the valley.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
Yes, it's about not having rush hour traffic times in Honolulu.
I bet they're saying, uh oh, sorry, Gavin, he said
something about the valley.

Speaker 4 (05:13):
We can align our economic and workforce development strategies anchored
by the high speed rail and pair them with tools
like opportunity zones that can form the backbone of a
reinvigorated Central Valley economy.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
Ring Ring Ring. These are the creditors, Ring Ring Ring, Hey, Gavin.
In real life, we got to answer the phone. Yeah,
we got to answer the phone in the real world
to like investors and people like that. You know, if
we say, hey, it's only going to cost you like
thirty three billion dollars and then suddenly we're it's going
to cost dot one hundred and twenty eight billion dollars

(05:46):
and we got an overrun like that. A lot of
times people get sued taken to court bit wise in
the real world. No, you don't understand though, this change about.
It's about saving the planet. It's about clean air. It's
about dog gonet people. We've drawn them in our artists renderings.

(06:08):
You've seen them. You've seen them in these drawings. We've
shown you, guys, we're doing things. You see these people
that we've drawn with the clean air. You've seen the drawings.
It's saving the planet. You can tell in the drawings.
The air quality is better. You see in these drawings

(06:32):
the quality of life that surrounds these good people in
this good air. What are you Why are you trying
to stop that man? Because it's wasteful, it's not needed,
not wanted, the homeless, twenty four billion dollars unaccounted for

(06:55):
Democrats here in California just call it red handed should
I say blue handed? Straight up taxpayer for aud ride
in the out broad daylight in Torrents Democrat La County
Border Supervisors, it's one hundred and twenty two unit homeless
hotel project underneath some home key thing we've heard about
that they're going to pay thirty million dollars. They got,

(07:17):
that's what was on. They're going to write a check
thirty million dollars for a building that is worth ten
million at most. At most, that's like the high end. Tink.
How much things like this happen all over this state
that do not pass the smell test. The mayor of

(07:39):
Torrents down their mayor, George Chin, he nailed it. He said,
our responsibility it's a city, is to listen, hacking ways,
reflect our values. This independent appraisal reinforces concerns many in
our city have raised. He said, a price tagnulity three
times a market value. Now just wait seeing our money

(08:01):
like they like, they just don't care, and they don't care.
We haven't tried any common since with with homelessness. My
word Prosnell County hounds out free needles. President Trump signed
the nationwide with a sharp ear. Let me reach over

(08:24):
and grab it. There. It is trying to get homeless
people off the streets and into facilities. That's what it's
going to take. It's not about them having houses. It'll
take about let's see that long for a liberal district
judge to overturn anything like this that tries to better

(08:46):
up our communities. But we're not going to stop fighting
trying to make our cities great again, whether you Democrat, Marxist, fate,
compassionate people like it or not. Housing first, No, that
doesn't make any sense. Housing first. Let me ask Mayor

(09:06):
Dyer again, Let me ask Governor Newsom again. Let me
ask any Democrat or any Republican, anybody out there. Let's
just talk humans for a moment, can we You mean
we get to take off our labels? Yeah, just for
a minute. Let just take them off for a minute.
And I've used this analogy again, but I think it's
really spot on about how the government acts and how

(09:27):
we act in real life. And I don't want to
use anybody's kids. So I always use nephew because it's
your brother or sister's fault the kids that way. But
let's say your nephew is out in your front yard
with a makeshift kind of tent, kind of thing he
made out of boxes, and he's got a grocery cart
there with a bunch of cans in it, and he's, uh,

(09:50):
let's see, he likes to do math. When you get it,
he's doing some drink. He odd a few times that
nark Haan saved his life. So you want him to
be close, but you can't him in your house. No,
But he's out shows up in your front yard and
he's inviting his other you know, a hunter crackheads over

(10:11):
and they're they're all hanging out lighting illegal fires up
at all times hours. Oh oh wait, they have some
dogs too. You have some dogs are there, and there's
no bathroom around, so you know they're going somewhere. When
it got real hot one afternoon, you could smell it. Okay,
what are you going to do? Wait, it's illegal for

(10:33):
somebody to do that. Yeah, in somebody's front yard in
a neighborhood it would be, But anywhere else in town.
I guess we let it slide. But would you and
your spouse look out the upstairs window down at that
scene and go, you know what, how about let's find
him in an apartment. All he needs is a room key, right,
we don't want to give a key to our house,

(10:53):
but let's give a key to another room somewhere else.
And then if you had to pay for that room,
and you had to be responsible for, you know, to
co sign in case anything is damaged that you're responsible
for the payment of that room, would just sign up
for that program? Guys, it's time to show up and

(11:17):
speak out and push back.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
This is the Tremor Cary show on the Valley's Power Talk.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
That's when the Romans spread around the world. That was
the northern this most area, and they made this big
wall there. It's still parts of it there today. I've
wat some stuff on that and they had like almost
I'm just every mile or so or however, the Romans
was a guard post, big old wall, and they're finding

(11:47):
some very very very very very big leather shoes. This
doesn't fit the size of this period or even a
typical Italian foot, or even typical of what we think
are human feet. They've unearthed these ancient shoes, and they're
saying they have no idea whithery're so they're so big.

(12:08):
I guess you don't want to admit that.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Maybe the Bible was right, Maybe Goliath was a real guy.
It's amazing how US media newspapers up until nineteen thirties
reported on all the huge skeletons that were unearthed and
all these mounds across North America that, yeah, I mean

(12:32):
huge skeletons, h humans. Humans. They've been digging up these
leather shoes, confusing the archaeologists. They said one out of
four shoes belongs to someone of the size that they
can't explain. Yeah, all right, benef of them before the flood,

(12:57):
After the flood. I have been watched and reading and
so much of this. Uh of the nephelone, because you know,
you grew up in church, sunny school, David and golithe
he fought a giant. You know what was he just
like a big dude? They just the word they used. Then, Uh,
there whatsoever fallen angels? Great men and renowned of old?

(13:23):
Ye had the fallen angels that found the women pretty?
And I'm now really kind of piecing together and learning.
That's why the God of the Old Testament with the Jews,
the Israelites, of going in and striking and killing everybody
in the it was that DNA line. It was the
DNA line. And I do not, for the life of

(13:46):
me know why so many religions, churches, Christianity, uh, Protestants,
Catholicism do not talk more about this. I because it
changes a whole lot of perception out there. And we
have the archaeological remains here in America. Hey yeah, YouTube

(14:10):
still allows it. They still allow it. You can go
see these documentaries of you know, just put in you know, skeletons,
unearthed North America mounds, maybe put the mountains, the ancient
mounds in there. Oh yeah, you'd see nineteen twenty eight Muskogee, Illinois.
You'd see all these old bars out there and they'd
have a blanket laid out. Look what we found out

(14:31):
there dating in fence Hall. Incredible stuff, truly is. I
find it fascinating. Almost as fascinating it's trying to build
a multi multi, multi, multi multi billion dollar train. I
know they say it's to nowhere, but we live here.

(14:52):
We can say, guys, it's to nowhere. It doesn't make
sense out here, not at all. John, if he had
an opinion piece for Resno b ran it about how
it's supposed to be thirty three billion dollars and been
done five years ago, we should already be talking about
some of them need seat replacements. I uh, I guess

(15:16):
I'll have to get somebody from High Speed Rail on
that would be a good thing to do and ask
him some questions about is there going to be security
on it? You know, are people gonna be searched or
bags gonna be checked? If not, you can just call
it the high speed cocaine vatanyl meth rails. You can
just we hear all the drugs caught on I five

(15:37):
by HP pulling them over and the dogs, and I
mean we hear that all the time in Fresno County
in the I five stretch. So imagine what a valley,
that big of a stretch from Baker, Filton marceg get
it all the way up there and not have to
worry about the costs pull anybody over, if nobody's checking
your luggage that you're rolling on, I don't know, just
thinking out loud here, just trying to look into the future.

(16:01):
I wonder if the bathrooms will be kept up. I
wonder if they'll be graffiti on it. I wonder if
they'll be conductors walking through keeping order. Trains have conductors.
I wonder how easy to rail jump, just like the
subways in New York. I wonder it'll all be apps
on the phone. Wait, I can't ride the train if

(16:23):
I don't have my phone. That's right, buddy, you got
to have the app to show everybody. I don't know
what I haven't heard those kind of questions asked or answered,
probably because because why would we even talk about technology
now and what it's going to be like in twenty
forty five when they they get enough cap and trade
money by taxing businesses here to get enough money to

(16:45):
each year put enough into it to keep slowly building
it with private contractors. Is that how this is going
to turn out? Well? My next guest, send him and
David Togapa his bill three seven seven, his bill that
Governor Newsom just signed, provides a new way to get
more I guess money, or I'm gonna ask him, is

(17:09):
it just a way to find out how much it's
gonna cost, and then we can show how ridiculous it is.
It seems a little out of character for the Republican assemblymen.
But I have a lot of respect for this man
that I mean, one of the toughest campaigners, and he
hadn't been afraid to stand up up there. He was

(17:31):
on the Insurance committee, and I guess he was too loud,
so they kicked him off there. But we're going to
come back and talk to Assimble when Toga Pa about
high speed rail and well we'll get to a little
jerry mandering.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
The assistant Trevor Jerry show in London, Valley's Power.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
Dog at the first time a simplement David toga Pa.
It's called AB three seven seven his bill Governor Newsom
just signed that's going to I guess give us a
little layout of the That's why he's on. He's gonna
explain it to us, David talk about Welcome to the show, simleman.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
Hey, it's always great joining you when I can.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
Yes, indeed, I know you're a busy man. You've given
us a lot of time here. Let me just say
right out the get go. I said before we went
to break there that you're the hardest working guy I
ever saw You've been a voice of conservatism for the
Republican Party in Sacramento. You got kicked off the Insurance
Committee were you were too loud with the truth. This

(18:31):
ABY three seven seven seems a little out of character.
Is there a plan behind this that I'm not seeing?

Speaker 3 (18:38):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (18:38):
Yeah, The plan behind it is it's a do your
business or get off the pot with high speed rail.
We've got all these parcels that they've already acquired, They've
got everything, and this is about accountability. I actually was
ready for the governor to veto this built because the
entire goal behind it is after they've been doing this
for almost fifteen years, there's no legal framework, there's no

(18:58):
financial plan in play. They have all these estimates and
cost overruns, and this is a locked in. So the
next time that they say that we need more money,
we need more to throw out this, they will be
out of legal compliance high speed rail. We will become illegal,
and then we'll be able to move off of this project.
So that is what I am doing on this bill,
is to lock in that portion and to say no more,

(19:21):
We're not kicking the can down the road. You will
either live, but you live or die by the legal
framework that is put here on AB three seven seven,
and so that is where you know, this process was
started before I was even eligible to vote in two
thousand and eight, I was twelve years old. And now,
how do we fix it? What do we do with
these monuments? I call it a modern day Stonehenge? And

(19:43):
how do we start preparing a plan if we're going
to offload it and sell it? If the state is
going to allocate more money. There's no more that's coming
in the future, and we're moving off of it. And
so I think this bill actually has to do with
being a conservative and locking in the frameworks because it's
insane the current process that we're in right now.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
I just heard three different things come from you fix it,
end it? We need a plan? Is it end it
or fix it?

Speaker 2 (20:12):
Well, that's exactly what we're going to do. So what
this bill will force is for all of us to
lock ourselves in a room and then we will decide
what the legal framework is moving forward. And so this
brings in that accountability. That's what we're going to.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
Have to decide.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
And I truly believe that it's probably going to make
more sense to upload the project, sell it to a
private company and figure out the plan from there, because
what we're dealing with right now isn't even rooted in reality.
I've talked about it a lot that only in government
can you have the cost overruns that we're in right now.
In the real world, if you're ten percent overestimated costs,

(20:48):
you're probably going to be looking for a new job soon.
If you're twenty percent over cost, you're probably not going
to find a job again. If you're four hundred percent
overestimated costs, you probably work for the cat off on
a high speed rail.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
Okay, So I want to go back to some of
Liarmenttanga Pa, it's not end it. I can scratch that
off my list. You're saying we need to fix it,
and we need a plan, and I'm hearing you say
we need a private company who pays for the private company.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
That would be the government would have to liquidate the project.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
So that would be well, you're in government now, that's
called tax fayers. We would pay for that, right.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
No, no, no, no private company would buy it.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
They would oh in operated. Okay, it's not an Amtrak
thing anymore. It's a private train kind of situation exactly.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
Well, Amtrak is a private, private company.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
Are they They're not. I guess they're heavily subsidized. Is
that why I feel like it's part of government?

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Yeah, there's some railroad subsidies and everyone, but no, they
operate in an independent fashion. And so whether it's Pacific Railroad,
whether it's BNSF IF selling the high speed rail makes
more sense than this legal framework and the financial plane
that we are putting forward with AB three seven seven.
That is what this bill is about. It is forcing

(22:01):
the hand of California to decide what high speed rail
will be.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
All right, let's talk about this. Okay. Let's say it
goes to a private company and in your press release
on the Assembly build that the governor signed, and it's
going to lead to us basically getting a new cost
estimate at this juncture, right, it's it's.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
Going to bring us into compliance with Hey, this is
how much they're actually going to say that it's worth.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
Okay, and this is cost money cost estaments and what
is Okay, we're going to look at the financials here.
But I read here in your release here you should
said your bill's an important stuff to make sure present
in the valley are not left with an unfinished monument
of wasted taxpayer dollars, leaving us as a modern day Stonehenge.
So if your idea to go private, no more tax
paying money in, what company out there would actually see

(22:54):
the need here and would get want to buy the boondoggle?
At this point, I mean, if you take your average
Joe or your average Jose even in the year twenty
thirty five or twenty forty that have cars, is that
really going to be a need?

Speaker 2 (23:11):
I agree with you on that point. It is going
to be, in my opinion, a hard sell. But it's
that legal framework that we need. And within that same
legal framework, it could be deconstruction cost as well that
we really move off of this project. And that's where
if it isn't if we are not able to liquidate

(23:32):
the project, because most private companies will look at this
as one of the worst brand infrastructure projects probably in
the history of the world, then we're going to have
to decide on that. But what I wanted to make
sure is that there is a locked in time frame
because taxpayers have been kicked down the road, They've been
given promises and empty promises. There is nothing ending this.

(23:54):
It was always just.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
But you're saying, you don't want us left with an
unfinished monument, so you want it to continue. And I'm saying,
you said, not end it, you said fix it, get
a private company, and that would mean more, more work
would have to go on. I don't even know what
private company would sign up with that. You said that
you didn't really agree, you said you agree with me,
what private company would do that? So in that a

(24:16):
whole lot of wasted time that we're still going to
be putting money into this, why not say let's end it?
And we are going to have some unfinished monuments here
in the valley, but we can't.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
We can't leave the concrete structures there all.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
Right, break them down, sell them as concrete, sell them
to Hollywood to film you know, highway chasings on.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Yeah. Well, and that's what this is about. Is this
whole project has already started even before we got into office.
So this is what we've got to do.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
Yeah, I'm going back though, you're saying, we don't want
to be left with an unfinished monument, so you want
it to be finished.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
I want us to decide what we're going to do.
And that's what the.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
Bilk about Okay, well you're an assemblyman. Now you've already decided.
I pretty much heard you during the campaign saying that
it's not smart to do right.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Exactly, I don't believe that government should do this project.
I do believe high speed rail.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
Then once you put in, why don't you put in
it's important to make sure we're not left with an
unfinished monument that sounds like you're finishing it, do you?
I mean, I don't. You're gonna argue with yourself on
this one.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
Well, I'm trying to understand what you mean.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
Okay, let me read what you wrote. Then I'm gonna
read right down here one two, three, fifth line down.
Republicans have pushed for real accountability. It's clear the decision
to sign AB thirty seven three seven seven was a
political necessity. My bill is an important step to make
sure Fresno and the Central Valley are not left with
an unfinished monument of wasted tax payer dollars, leaving us

(25:45):
as a modern day Stonehenge.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
Yes, and but unfinished monument doesn't mean fully finished the
project or not, And it doesn't lock us into finishing
the project, us into a plan. And whether high speed
Rail wants to demolish that is part of the plan.

(26:08):
Whether the high speed rail says that they can finish it,
they are not going to get an endless amount of
funding because of this locked in portion for it. There's
no legal framework until right now for this locked in plan.
But that doesn't mean that we're locked into finishing high
speed rail, because it means also the are we liquidating

(26:30):
the property, are we demolishing the property? And here's the
locked in portion of funds that are allocated into it,
and so it's not it. So that's what I'm saying
is I just want to make sure that when high
speed rail has failed, in which we all believe it is,
that the valley isn't just left with a bunch of
concrete structures and they all just get up and walk away,

(26:53):
and then we have these giant graffiti buildings, a modern
day stonehenge. All right, locking in finishing the property in
the financial.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
What am I missing with? Let me just quote newsweek
dot Com California Governor Newsom is back to the state's
high speed rail network with new legislation that could provide
a new funding strategy. Is that a misquote of the
intention of your bill?

Speaker 2 (27:18):
Now, the new funding strategy. It's essentially what they're saying.
It's it's wrong. It's not providing any new funding. It's
locking in the funding that is currently there, so they.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
Cap and trade. It's like, is that the cap and
trade a billion a year? Is that the funding we're
talking about the cap.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
And trade is already allocated? That has nothing to do
with the bill.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
Okay, that's that's not what they're talking about. Then a
new funding strategy, Yeah, that's already that's already built in.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
Exactly, cap and trade is already built in. What this
is saying is they can't tell us that it's going
to cost us thirty three billion dollars and then come
back again and say one hundred and thirty three billion dollars.
So this is going to events that issue.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
So that sounds to me like you are planning on
keeping it going.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
No, No, that's not not at all. It's just saying
that there's no more funding coming after they lock in
the plan.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
So how's it going to be finished.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
The project itself?

Speaker 1 (28:24):
Yeah, what we're talking about, how would that be finished
if there's no no funding coming. I'm I'm trying to
follow your plan here. I'm trying to understand it.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
So AB three seven seven is a locked in financial
plan for the project, if high speed rail, and if
the legislature and the majority in the legislature say it
is thirty four billion dollars, that is what's currently remaining
right now. That is what they stated that they could
finish with the Central Valley portion. That is what they

(28:54):
have stated, not saying what I have stated. But they
can't come back and say, well, we're gonna need see
billion dollars to do it. This will no longer allow them.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
Locked in price. Locked in price, Yes, this is ay
locked in Okay, Now let me ask you this, what
if they go over does the work stop?

Speaker 2 (29:14):
It will become illegal for them to do that. Yes,
And that's where this bill is intended to make sure
that once that happens, in my opinion, we will force
them to make a decision to either offload the project
or we will have to use the rest of the
funding to take down this concrete monument.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
Okay, they first told us thirty three billion, and now
they're saying one hundred and twenty eight billion. So they're
not people that are really into a locked out kind
of price mentality here. So something tells me they're gonna
they'll they'll probably go over and work will come to
a stop, and we'll have court cases and in the meantime,
more tax paying money will be going into this. I
don't even know what time frame you and I are

(29:56):
debating here, because I don't even know if they even
know what time frame that it is, But I just
go ahead.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
What I'm saying is we So when they originally told
us thirty three billion dollars, that was an estimate, and
then they went to one hundred and twenty eight billion dollars,
and that is still an estimate. If AB three seven
seven was in place from the very beginning, they couldn't
have jumped US four hundred percent on the cost because
that would have been out of the legal framework. So

(30:24):
it would have if they would have signed this at
the very beginning, prevented that one hundred and twenty eight
billion dollar estimate.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
All right, If newsweek dot Com said NEWSOM has new legislation,
then it's your bill that it's a new funding strategy.
You're saying you disagree with that statement right there. Let
me just ask you, as we're getting close to an
end here, are you for high speed rail, yes or no.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
I am for high speed rail. I am not for
the California high speed Rail project. Okay, there's gonna be.
There's gonna be high speed rail in California. It's going
from Rancho Cucamonga to Las Vegas, and it's one hundred
percent privately funded.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
And that makes sense. I'm just wondering what private business
you're saying, Well, we're we're not gonna we're not gonna
stop it. We're gonna fix it, and it's going to
go to private and now taxpayers will be taken out
of it. But I don't know. Do you know, are
there any companies that have shown an interest in doing
high speed rail from Bakersilt to Mercelle, there are, There.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
Have nothing, And but that's what we're trying to do
right now is forced the hand of California because of
the position we're in right now. It's so irresponsible. There's
no direction.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
Well we're aware of that since two thousand and eight.
This is a national embarrassment for our state. You're for
high speed rail, but not for the California High speed Rail.
Let me ask it again, this merced to Baker Sild,
what your bill is currently working on Are you for
that project? Yes or no?

Speaker 2 (31:55):
Continuing I am not for the current iteration of the project,
which is why I passed ABY three seven seven.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
Okay, So it's kind of misconstrued. Then the Newsweek article
things like that that it's a new funding strategy.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
Exactly, it's not allocating any new funds. It's not throwing
more money at it. It is capping all of the
estimates that high speed Rail wants. High Speed Rail Authority
can't come in and say, well, we're getting a billion
dollars from Capetrade. Now I want another billion dollars from here.
Now I want another billion dollars from here. When the
legal plan comes in place, there's no more. It will

(32:34):
prevent us from going from thirty three billion to one
hundred and twenty eight billion. It will prevent us from
doing any more movement there. And if the government here
finally pulls their head out of La lah Land and says,
holy cow, we cannot finish this project because we are
not getting any more funding because of the locked in

(32:56):
financial plan, they will have to decide how to offload
or how to demolish the rest of the project with
the current funding in place.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
Yeah, that that current funding. When that cap and trade
with a billion dollars a year, that's a price on
that's a price on CO two and that that hurts
oil refineries, and that hurts food plants and paper mills
and cement manufacturers. It hurts California business.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
So and that's where it is. It's not a new
funding source. It is a new financial plan because high
speed rail for the last fifteen years hasn't had a
locked in financial plan.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
Okay, So that in closing here, I want to understand
you and thank you for the conversation and the discussion.
Why not, as a California similar to be the guy
that's going stop any more money to this. Please tear
down the structures you have in my county right now,
Let's stop this. Do I not understand Sacramento well enough,
or why not just be saying stop it? No, I'm

(33:55):
not going to do a bill for us to go
in there and try and figure out this mess. Stop
it now.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
That's actually what this bill is getting us too. And
this is the incremental step to get us to say,
once they break the financial plan in place, high speed
rail would become illegal, all right, And that gives us
the additional argument to say no more.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
Well, I and we just have.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
To take that because this is something that I inherited
and it's it's a project that has already started. And
like I said, I did not vote for ice speed
rail in twenty twelve, two thousand and eight. I was
twelve years old. And so that's what we just wanted
to make sure as we're taking the necessary steps and
bringing in accountability, we are figuring out what we can do.
And so I was with Secretary Duffy when they pulled

(34:46):
the four point four billion dollars because I was the
one who was able to show them all of the COSTAILD.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
That's why it felt out of character. That's why I said,
it felt out of character and I needed to understand this.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
Yeah, that's where that's it's if when you look at
it from a business standpoint and plan, it will give
us the necessary step to move off of high speed
rail one way or the other. This is just how
you get there.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
All right, Well, thank you for the explanation. And we
are twenty two days away from opening opening day for
us NOO against Kansas City, I mean against Kansas So
May next time you're on we'll talk a little bit
more football we normally do, but this is important and
thank you for the explanation. Yep.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
And so that's where we knew that some of the
news sources they would think of it as funding. It's
not funding. We're not adding any more money to it.
We're capping all of the funding to it, and with.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
I don't want need more funding going to it. Well,
hoping it works out in the end, we'll follow this
one and I might say bravo at some point.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
Yep, Well we'll break it down for you and so
that way when you see it, well we kind.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
Of did just break it down, but yeah, we'll see
if it works.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
Yep, we'll get there.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
And David Tongapa enjoy your weekend, sir, Thank you for
your time. Take out you bet you.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
This is the Trevor Carry Show on the Valley's Power Talk.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
So this is not a boondoggle as some have asserted.

Speaker 4 (36:14):
It is unless we abandon the vision because we couldn't
find funding.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
And that's my commitments. That's his funding commitment where keep
talking funding. You heard there are simonment David Tonguapa AB
three seven seven his bill signed by Newsom, the someonlement
saying news we got it wrong. It's not about funding
thought it was out of character. I still don't understand

(36:39):
why we would be going through all of that. Why
we can't just stand up and say no more, it's done.
It turn out the lines. Where's Dandy Dome? We need
Dandy don Meredith. The party is over, let's go back.
Not that long ago, here was David Tongapa talking about
high speed rail and the funding and people funding it.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
In speed rail more than fifteen billion dollars spent and
all we have is concrete and freebar. There are some
Democrats up here that I mean, they believe that there's
something wrong with high speed rail. I don't think they
understand what is wrong. I don't think that they see that.
You know, we're overly spending and there's nothing in return.

(37:22):
But a lot of them just keep going along to
get along because of yep. They this is this is
something that that they inherited and they have to keep
funding it, and they have to keep funding it because
certain groups keep telling them to do so, and they
don't want to push back.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
All right, well, now we're have to get spending under control.
I don't want any more spending. Well, Sonine have a
plan to get it capped where you can only go here, right?
Don't we have a national debt ceiling? They go over
that all the time, don't they. Yes, I don't trust
politicisms with capture ceilings. The numbers ever, lie do they?

(38:02):
Let's go see campaign A in Campaign B. Campaign A
was American Eagle with the Sydney Sweeney ad. American Eagle
made three hundred million dollars in a day. American Eagle
with the Sydney Sweeney ad of the tractor girl and
the jeans peeling out and was as a mustang I

(38:23):
think white with the blue stripes. Think it it was
a wire anyhow, that made sixty five million in free
media exposure because the Left went crazy over it. Jaguar there,
transvestite looking like skittles. I don't know what it was.

(38:46):
It was a transferstite skittle ad and it never showed
a jaguar normally like Jaguar ads or cigars and cognac
and swerving around their curve well double a seven kind
of feel James Bondfield to it, right, A little mistake

(39:06):
to it. Only a certain man drives the jaguar or lady.
And if she does her cigarettes, got that long thing
on the end like Corilla Deville. Yeah, they had all
these well, let's just say, freakazoid robots in their commercial.
And let's see in Europe there's sales plunged ninety seven percent.

(39:27):
In April. Just a few years ago they sold one
hundred and eighty thousand. Last year they sold twenty seven thousand.
I think that is what we call a little bit
of a drop off. Yeah, if that happened in your business,
there'd be a thing called, I don't know, a little
bit of a meeting. And guess what would happen in

(39:49):
that little bit of a meeting. It wouldn't be the
same boss that you saw, you know, prior to

Speaker 3 (39:55):
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