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October 11, 2025 • 36 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
To some of them in Carl the miles with us
so no on fifty tour, also the voter ID petition.
And I want to start this hour out by asking
a guy that spent a lot of time in San Diego,
he's now in Sacramento. We'll get a little background by
assemblymen de mile. Why do you love this state? And
why haven't you gone somewhere else?

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Oh? Wow? So when I grew up this this has
been a home for me.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
I grew up in Huntington Beach and my mother passed
away when I was thirteen. My father left the family
two weeks before abandoned us, and.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
My brother, sister and I were split up.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
I was the oldest.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
I was a middle child.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
I was taken to a Jesuit boarding school, taken in
by the Jesuit priests in Rockville, Maryland, and at age
thirteen thirteen and they gave me a free ride scholarship
to that boarding school. They gave me a free right
scholarship to college at Georgetown University. But being plucked out
of my home, I always wanted to come back. So

(01:01):
that was what nineteen ninety and back in nineteen ninety
things these an're pretty good in California, but then it
all slid and just got really bad. So by the
time I got back here in twenty two thousand and two,
things were not so good. But I thought, oh, well,
we can turn the tide. There's just rough roads. But

(01:21):
from two thousand and two onward it has been constant
boom boom boom boom, into.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
The ditch, into the dumpster. And so here's the thing.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
When I go to college campuses in high schools, and
I talked today and I tell these kids that California
is bad. They all say, yeah, it's pretty bad. I say, no, no, no,
you don't know how bad it is, because let me tell.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
You what we used to do. When us old guys.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
Used to travel the country or travel the world back
in the nineties and the eighties and the seventies, people
would ask where are you from, and we used to
say we would pump up our chest. We would say
calif and yeah, and they would say woo. And the
kids look at me like I'm like insane, Like wait,
people would say ooh, like it's just California and we're

(02:10):
not that great and like a lot of people are leaving.
I'm like, exactly, these kids don't know how bad California
is today because they don't know how good it used
to be.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Ay Man, And so I want all of you.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
To reach back in your memory because you know what
I'm saying is true.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Are you ready? Can I do that? It's nineteen seventy nine.
I'm in Memphis, Tennessee at thirteen years old. My dad's
graduating seminary the first church. Where is it? Where do
I get to tell my seventh grade classmates at Gray
Saint Lukes I'm going to California And they say, I mean,
I was just just a normal guy there. Suddenly I
was the rock star kid because I'm moving to California.

(02:51):
And they were asking me, are you going excited? Are
you going to see chips? Yeah, because that's when you're
gonna serve me. And I'll never forget. We're on the
tin driving in outside sam Berdandino. My brother was asleep
when I saw Paunch and John they were on the
tin the CHP and I woke him up. Wow, look
look we're here. It was it was like moving to

(03:11):
another world.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
And so the one thing that drives me is that
I know how great California was and can still be
I also am driven because I know that we can
take it back. And the only thing standing between us
and taking back California is not the just the bad
ideas of Democrats. They got wretchedly bad ideas. They broke us. Okay,
they broke the state. But I also have to say

(03:34):
the other thing standing between us and taking back California
is the inept and incompetent California Republican Party establishment. These
people can't find their rear end with the Search Party
in a map.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
They only have been able to do in particular. That's
the big cause.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
Let me go down the whole list of them. You know,
I'd rather say it from the other side. Who do
I like?

Speaker 3 (03:57):
I like David Tangipa, I like Ali Mercedo, I like
Shannon Grove. These are people I like because they're fighters
and they've been getting stuff done.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
Who is a Democrat that fought to make it a
crime to sixteen year old, you know, to be trafficked?

Speaker 2 (04:14):
What was her?

Speaker 1 (04:15):
So?

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Her name is.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
Maggie Crell in Sacramento, and I commend her for doing that,
and yet her own party threw under the bus said no,
they said we wanted to allow it to still be
possible to buy sixteen and seventeen year old girls and
boys for sex. We're the only state in the country
that hasn't made it a crime to buy girls and

(04:36):
boys miners for sex.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
This isn't so atrociously embarrassing. It is foul. It is wrong.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
And the Democrats killed her bill to make it a crime,
to make it a crime, and.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
So what we did.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
And it just hit me that at that age they're saying, well,
they're old enough, they're old enough. But yet when they
killed somebody.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Girlfriends and boyfriends, right, that's what they said.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
But at that same age, when they kill somebody, they're
a kid.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
And so when you look at this, when you look
at this, I blame Democrats for bad ideas. I blame
the establishment Republicans for surrendering. And so here's the thing.
I know, we can take the state back if all
of you get off the couch and into the fight.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
Which is why I need your signatures here at the press.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
Box, Sports Barrill, Sports Grill here in Clovis. The addresses
on the website Vote Idea events dot Org, Voter Idea
Events dot org, come down sign the petition also for
voter id also I will give you a petition pack
to take home and collect signatures from friends and family.
But I'll tell you the third thing that drives me.

(05:37):
First thing is I know how great California can be.
Second thing is I know that we can win it
if we actually all work together and fight and ignore
the Republican establishment. Just go out there in the streets,
get a plan, and execute it. Third reason why I
am motivated is that these people who are in charge
of our political system, and I include some Republicans in

(05:58):
the mix, the ones that are not fighting, they are corrupt.
They are wrong, and they need to be stopped. And
I'm so sorry that I have to describe it in
such stark terms. They are corrupt, they are strong, and
they must be stuffed. Gavin Newsom is corrupt as the
day is long. The Pigeon Lady, the lady who runs

(06:19):
our elections, Shirley Webber, she is not only a nept
but she's corrupt. So's Gavin Newsom. But these people are
on the tank. They take the money of the lobbyists
and the labor unions and the super PACs, and the
only thing they're worried about is their own political career.
They don't give a rip about poor people. And by
the way, here's the headline. They don't care about Latinos

(06:40):
or blacks either. They don't care about the people that
they say they're fighting for because their policies hurt those
people the worst. And so these people are bad people.
I'm sorry to say that. I really am. I shudder
when I say that, because I don't want to say
that about any people. But if they if.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
That's truly who who they are.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
As people suffer in this state, they continue to do
bad things. They need to be called out for corruption
and bad actions. And they you know, you don't hurt them,
but you take them out of office. That's what you do,
is you vote them out of office. And I cannot
let these people stay in command and control and hurt
so many people. That is why the moral imperatives that

(07:22):
we must fight to save California. No.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
On fifty two or that is a centleman Carl Demayo
in a parking lot in Clovis, letting it out. We
are here at the sports what's wrong in me? Pressbox?

Speaker 2 (07:37):
Sports grip?

Speaker 1 (07:38):
I haven't written down in front of me my word,
it's right behind us. I was sitting here thinking the
years ago you were describing when the the gas no
was it prop So at the time we were.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
The time that we were doing that in the parking lot,
we were collecting signators on just something called the gas
tax repeal petition. But by the time November came around,
they changed the title from SAX repeal to eliminate road
repairs and cancels transportation projects, which.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
Okay, and never what I was sitting here thinking about that.
That's why we were here, and we said, well, it's
gonna go to fix road repair. And here I am
thinking that the City of Fresno just had to put
on a credit card one hundred million dollars for road repair.
We and wh was't not the second go around that
we were paying that last time we were.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
They keep saying, Oh, we're gonna we're gonna give us
more gas tax and we'll fix the roads. Well, the
question is, well, what the hell are you doing with
the billions of dollars were already giving you. Oh, what
we're doing is we're doing transit, We're doing uh climate
change mitigation. These people are liars, cheats and thieves. They
actually make liars, cheats and thieves. Look like they somehow

(08:43):
of a moral code. They're so bad every turn. These
people are always getting in your pocket, taking your money
and lying the whole way and then asking you for more.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
So we didn't get our roads to exis.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
No roads are fixed.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
Have you seen any areas of the state traveling siphoned?

Speaker 2 (09:00):
It off? So bad?

Speaker 3 (09:01):
Hey?

Speaker 1 (09:01):
And isn't it true if you haven't left the state
in a long time and you you're out somewhere driving around,
You're driving from Temple to Klleen, Texas, and you're going, Wow,
look how smooth this is. You just get used to it.
You just get used to it.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
You go to their cities and you wonder, like, where
are all the homeless people?

Speaker 2 (09:20):
Where are all the homeless camps?

Speaker 1 (09:21):
Well? I heard in Texas they let you put like
old tires into whatever they grind up to make the
highways out there. That's why they look blacker. The pavement
ou But California has climate change. It makes it more
expensive to pave a mile of a road. It's just
so upside down, So we're having to borrow money future
generation to pay for it, just to fill in potholes.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
Yeah, well, they don't want you driving in the first place,
want to make it prohibitively expensive, and they want to
force you into government run transportation the bus or bike
or walk. And and here's just a reality check. I
want tell the politicians stop trying to manipulate people into

(10:02):
doing what you want. And I say it that way
all the time. Don't manipulate people. Let freedom drive the decision.
And if people want to drive a car, then it's
your job as an elected official to make sure that
the roads that they need to drive.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
On are properly maintained.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
Ah, that's another equation to put into it. They want
to make them bumpy, just so that we'll jump on
that high speed and more expensive for the gas and mileage.
Do you hear about the mileage tax?

Speaker 3 (10:28):
Oh? On top of the car tax and the gas tax,
they want to charge you per mile you drive the
miles so they have to monitor our cars. Yes, and
Biden already ish, Oh, this is all being already done.
This has been done since twenty twenty one. They put
in the Biden's first budget a requirement that all cars
made after twenty twenty three have to have a mileage
tracker on it because they're teeing up a mileage tax.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
Across the country and.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
Hand in California tapped into people's electric power storing in
the garage the reverse or they can pull it back
out if they need it for pennies on the dollar. Yeah,
and they sell it as a benefit to have as well.

Speaker 4 (11:02):
Well.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
We're getting all the problems figured out, aren't we. Did
you notice the temperature change? Actually noticed the temperature change.
That sun went right behind that tree.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
I almost feel like I almost feel like I gotta
get a jacket out here in Clovis.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
Hey. It's a it's a good feel. And I always
say it's whether when I lived in Buffalo and the
weather started getting warmer, there was that I call it
a giddiness to the population. You start to feel it
in the valley come late October. A giddiness to the look.
They're all giddy. You see the weather's changing. It's not hot.
We're giddy. We're like we're out and we're rolling.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
Almost feels like San Diego here right now.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
Don't push it, don't push it, don't push it. Don't
I I remember San Diego School of Baseball when I
was fifteen. That was my Christmas gift to go to
Grossmont College down there.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
My district.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
Yeah, and Tim Lannery played for the are we We're
live at the press Box Sports Grill, seventeen eighty five
hernd In northwest, corner of Herndon and Fowler, right. So
the al these, why do you need to come out?
I tell you right now because Reform California's out here,
Similarmen Demayo's out here. It's a voter ID petition. Need
to come by and sign looking for a million a

(12:11):
million signatures to get that voter I d we'll be
talking here in the next break. Freshol City Councilman Nick
Richardson is out here as well. We'll talk to him.
But right now, I saw these. I saw these two
younger gentlemen hanging out. Normally you don't see younger people
in suits. And I said to a similemen Demo. I

(12:31):
said to him, I said, you, who's the Secret Service
guys in training over there? They had their suits on
and microphone clips on. You guys look sharp. And I
went up and I asked them who are they? And
they said, we're a couple of guys that are doing
a new cup podcast is called the Right Angle Podcast.
You and Petty Timothy Carozolas. Did I say both nings?

(12:52):
Correct sir? Did I?

Speaker 4 (12:53):
Basically it's Karasolas, but that'll work for Karrosolas and you
and Petty Yep.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
All right, where are you guys from.

Speaker 4 (13:00):
I'm from Clubs, California, So I'm from Fresno City actually,
And you know, we went to the same school. We
had a bunch of the same hobbies. We realized that
we wanted to do podcasting. We saw, you know, intro,
and we saw a door to open that and now
we're moving into it. We're going We're going full fledged.
We want to be a voice for the youth. We
want to, you know, get out there, have the youth

(13:21):
voice put out, because it's really not.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
You're so fortunate, guys that you're living in the age
that you are. Because when I had that feeling, I
had to play radio with my Hatachi stereo in high school.
I go from a cassette to the to the forty
five and talking between it and then had the commercial
on the cassette and but you know, I couldn't go
Walter cronkite it. Now you can, with the technology and everything,
you can make it look top notch. Who's the technical

(13:46):
guy amongst you.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
I'd be the technical guy. I do the technical stuff.
He's the one who does the social media. He'll do
all that stuff for events, right, He'll be old organizer.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
I'm eighteen and Timothy Heldy I'm eighteen. Also, both guys
are eighteen years old. What would you say, you're if
we were doing the elevator ride down? They call it
an elevator pitch if I said, what is the Right
Angle podcast?

Speaker 5 (14:10):
The Right Angle Podcast is basically a political podcast meant
to reach out to the youth in a way that
Charlie sort of did and try and pick up where
the youth don't feel connected to it.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
It's so good because I to tell you guys the truth.
I'll just market at twenty four and under. Almost feel
it's lost. But I think I have too much negative
influence and there's too much on that because I mean
the proof was there with Turning Point USA and what
just talking to you guys. I asked some school teachers
sometimes you know, they teach tenth grade or something. I'll go,

(14:41):
are they lost? They're like, yeah, so I guess I
hear too much of that. So it's good to see
you guys where you're brought up in a quote right
angle kind of household. Yeah, my family was well about you, Timothy.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
Actually no, I was not. I was not introduced into
politics for a long time. My parents sadly passed away.
And I realized that if I wanted to make a
future for myself, I had to do it, and I
needed to do it. And so me with you, and
we found that politics was a place to start. We
saw that this was the entry door to that, and
so I decided I need to get into politics. I

(15:17):
need to find what's right. And through searching and reading
and looking at all the stuff, I realized, you know,
some of the Democrat stuff kind of crazy. And I
started realizing that the Republicans are starting to do things right,
and we have been doing things right. And I want
things like this, the core of values of a Republican
to be instilled inside me because it really does help.
I'm I'm a Christian, and I believe that those beliefs

(15:40):
helped me, but not only that, to be a better
person also.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
And wasn't it something to see the Vice President of
the United States say Since Charlie Kirk's assassination, he's talked
more about his faith out loud than he ever had. Infinitely,
that's something it gave me courage. I'm sure it had
to give you guys courage as well.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Right for sure.

Speaker 4 (16:00):
Honestly, when when I saw everything with Charlie, I felt
a surge of energy like I've never felt before, to
just fight for my freedom, for my rights and youth.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
You know, I always said, I'm fifty nine years old,
and I never understood my whole life, like with a wife.
I was married three times. When a wife would cry
over somebody famous dying, I'd be like, you didn't even
know him. I'm like, oh no, I kind of knew him.
And I never understood it until the former Dallas Cowboy
coach Tom Landry. I was driving in my car, like
two thousand and three or something. I heard it on

(16:32):
the news he died, and I teared up because it's
like my childhood died, and that it only that never
happened to me my whole life. That's the only time
it ever happened until Charlie. I mean, I don't you know,
we all it's something. I don't know what it was.
I guess it's the Holy Spirit.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
I've heard.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
I know it is the Holy Spirit.

Speaker 4 (16:48):
I've heard so many testimonies of people who don't even
know him, and they felt for him because he truly
was the voice of the younger generation. He was one
of the few who spoke out when no one else would.
And I believe that he is a voice of the youth.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
Hey, let's applaud young man like this. So that's gem
that's right? Yeah, all right, I really do. Do you
guys take abuse from people your age? It's easier, I
think for people that aren't around a lot of young
people to maybe express theirviews more. What's that like? Because
Charlie fought him back, and he did it in such
an eloquent way, but he had some singers man.

Speaker 4 (17:24):
Definitely. I believe especially in the college campus, you kind
of feel like you can't talk as much when there's
other people around. But specifically with the twenty point chapters,
they're starting to get them involved in much more schools.
And I realized that our voice wasn't silenced. It's just
the matter of getting out there and putting your voice
out there. It wasn't that the people were all against me.

(17:46):
It was just that I wasn't brave enough to put
my voice out there. And once I started pushing out
there to get my voice out. Even when someone did
say something, it felt like it was it was nothing
to me.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
All right you and slip me a twenty and I'll
let you guys say where people can go?

Speaker 4 (17:59):
What?

Speaker 1 (17:59):
All right there? Thanks? All right? So where can people go?
See you guys?

Speaker 4 (18:02):
So we do have a podcast on Apple Podcasts. It's
literally the Right Angle Live, The Right Angle Lives Live.
We do have Instagram up. We have guy Blue Sky.
You know. We're trying to get off the other people
to also specifically though, do you have the.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
So you need a marketing director? Guys, Yeah, I'm kidding.

Speaker 4 (18:24):
Go ahead, need a PR team. We'll get worked on this.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
No, you guys are doing great, go ahead.

Speaker 4 (18:29):
But for Instagram, it's the Right Angle Podcast. No space
is the writ Angle Podcast. And then you could also
search on Spotify. You could search on Apple Music, Amazon Music,
Amazon Music the writ Angle Podcast.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
Or you can come out here they're hanging out where
are we? Thanks guys, and thank you, thank you very much.
Create appreciate that we need more like that. It is
growing around the country, The Right Angle Podcast. Uh, this
is the Trevor Nation all over the place you o're
live at the press box. More Girl seventeen eighty five
Herndon northwest, corner of Herndon and Fowler, right next to

(19:04):
all these, some of them, and carl de Mayo is
out here with us Reform California. Come out sign the
petition for voter ID we need one million votes. And
thank you again to all the Reform California volunteers. I
got here an hour before the broadcast and they were
already here. I'm saying, that is that's the way that

(19:24):
we do it. All these missionary behind the liberal enemy line,
and listen, Democrats aren't our enemy. Let's educate him. Charlie
never looked at him as his enemy, did he No,
he didn't. But we got to fight back against some
of these idiotic mentalities that are going on, and yes,
some of them are straight up idiots. Did you see

(19:45):
the Katie Porter she's done. There were two videos released
on that. You know who's excited about that. Antonio Villa Ragosa,
He's like, you go, girl, keep being rude to everybody.
And the second one that was released was her talking
to I think it was somebody in the Biden administration,
like on a video thing, and she looked like she

(20:05):
was in her house and an aide was standing behind
her moving around. You could kind of see and she blurts,
out of cidity, you're in my you're in my shot,
in my shot. Calmed down, Julia Roberts, You're not doing
a movie in Hollywood. She is just something else, is
she not? So you know there's the Democrats all involved

(20:27):
up in that. I even heard her rumor. Is it
true that Senator Jose Padilla Alex Oh, sorry, yeah, Senator
Alex Padilla might be getting in the governor's race and
then if he won, that would open up a Senate
seat and he'd give it to Noose Senator Gavin no Oh. No,

(20:48):
it's a too good of a feeling day to let
my mind go that way. Fresco City Council and Nick
Richardson is here. We'll be talking to him next. It's
a Trevor nation all over the place.

Speaker 3 (20:59):
No On.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
I alerted everybody this morning to what's going on out here.
Nothing like a lot of time to get prepared. I
appreciate you coming out. City Councilman Nick Richardson, District six,
my district. Thank you for coming out.

Speaker 3 (21:14):
Man.

Speaker 6 (21:15):
My pleasure crossing that Willow border into Clovis over here.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
Right, and I really applaud the city of Clovis. And
I told council Member Drew Bessinger, I said, you guys
really know how to throw a party, and I don't
see bad headlines when they throw parties Clovis fast, big
hat days, rodeo. They do it well and there's even
alcohol mixed in. How do they do that? I mean,
families that have reunions can't pull that off.

Speaker 7 (21:39):
My family would probably struggle to have the success of
that that they have out here when you introduced that
many folks and some drinks.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
I even think they have events where they let people
walk around with alcohol looking antique stores and things don't
get broken. That's well behaved people. Really impressive.

Speaker 7 (21:55):
I mean, they have a great culture over here in
clothes and they're very proud of it, and I think
it's something to be admired.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
I'm not putting Fresnel culture down.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
Now.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
Come on, I'm starting to see a little edge build here.
It's too much building up. I am picking up a
little defense in this.

Speaker 7 (22:08):
Am I very much different. It's a time for stake,
there's a time for ice creamer.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
Hey, now what how's it been how long you've been
in the city council. It's been ten.

Speaker 6 (22:17):
Months or today actually is ten months?

Speaker 1 (22:20):
Ten months? All right? In that ten months? Is there
more craziness from the public? You know, I watch c MAC.
If something gets heated that I see about in the news,
I'll go back and look at that section. But you're
you're on that diace for hours a week. Is it?
Are people saner than my impression that you have to
go through. I guess this is my question. Are there

(22:40):
more crazies than I know of? Well, you know crazies,
I mean the people that we would all say they're yelling, shouting,
acting crazy. Not different, not a different opinion, but acting crazy.

Speaker 7 (22:50):
Currently, I think it's a little more tame than it
has been in the past. There's an update coming to
the Brown Act with SB seven O seven that was
just signed, which reintroduces the ability to remotely participate. So
you're gonna start getting the folks calling in again under pseudonyms,
calling and yelling from the safety of their own home.
As I say, there's not a weapon or vehicle in
the entire US arsenal that will give someone the sense

(23:11):
of power that a keyboard will, and We're about.

Speaker 6 (23:13):
To start hearing from a lot of those citizens again.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
You know, I was the City of Clovis. Their city
council No. One fifty. They backed out. It's gonna split
Clovis up into three different districts. Has the Fresnoe City Council,
and then you got a lot on your plate and
you guys don't make the decision. But hasn't been talked
discussed a little bit.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
I talked about it.

Speaker 7 (23:33):
We haven't had a city council meeting in the last
couple of weeks. This is one of the rare times
we have two weeks without it. I talked to another
council member yesterday, and you got to remember, the makeup
of the Fresno City Council and Clovis's are very different. Yes,
I am kind of the only one over there who
is a conservative.

Speaker 6 (23:48):
Not kind of.

Speaker 7 (23:48):
I am actually the only one over there who's a conservative.
So it's very important to me to explain the nuance
and to be very logical and diplomatic in the way
I approach subjects.

Speaker 6 (23:59):
So we made a video.

Speaker 7 (24:00):
My staff and I sat down yesterday with from the
video explaining the yes side the no side, Why I'm
personally going to vote no on Prop fifty, and some
of the nuance that maybe folks won't get if all
they're doing is passively consuming social.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
Media or watching YouTube and having to endure those commercials.
They really make it seem like it's, actually, Paul, we're
putting it back in the people's hands, and it couldn't.
They're taking it out of the people's hands.

Speaker 7 (24:22):
They're putting it in some people's hands where we don't
want that decision to be in their hands, and that's
namely the state legislature.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
Yeah, and when asked who drew the maps, they just
just riled on up, would not tell. Suddenly remember Mesito
who drew the maps? And sit down, young lady there
as well. So, yeah, it's a no on fifty. I've
been seeing some of the polling. You know, you can
take pauland forever you want to take it. It's normally
one thousand people out there. But you know, your job

(24:49):
is politics. My job's reporting on politics and having an
opinion every now and then. But your average Californian doing
the life boogie. It's hard in California to do the
life boogy. I wonder how much they're grasping this and
the importance of it. And I mean even on the
Republican side.

Speaker 7 (25:05):
We know anytime an elected official starts getting defensive and
angry when order questions, Yeah, one that doesn't do wonders
for transparency. It makes socks a little bit more suspicious,
but it should make the hairs on the back of
every patriotic neck stand up on end when elected officials
start being hesitant answering to the.

Speaker 6 (25:22):
People who put them in that position in the first place.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
All right, then I got a tough one on you.
When do we get rid of that green bike lane?

Speaker 7 (25:29):
On Fryan, We actually had some citizens get together and vote.
We've got some improvements coming on to Fryance, some dedicated
right hand turn lane, switching up some turn signals, the
green bike lane. There is no moratorium currently for the
green bike lane. That doesn't mean that improvements won't come.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
All right, Well, you know you're getting the frying question
every time you come out. If I don't see you
again next time, I'm about you, and I'll know it's
because I asked too many frank questions as well. What's
the number one complaint in the city? Is it still
maybe District six and you know, different districts or different complaints,
is it still the transient issue. I know, the Supreme
Court suddenly seemed like gave everybody a gift with that

(26:08):
ruling from up in Oregon where they overturned the Ninth
Circuit where you can't camp out. But I really don't
see anything changing, and I didn't really think it would
because it's where police go up and go, hey, you
can't be here, and if you come back the next
day and they're there, then you might get arrested. They
just move somewhere else.

Speaker 7 (26:25):
It's more the breaking up of the big scale encampments
that kind of was the goal of the anti encampment issue,
and that's because those encampments aren't just a place where
you can find unsheltered people. Those are also places where
if you want to deal drugs, that's where you go.
If you want to buy drugs, that's where you go.
If you're trafficking people or weapons or illegal whatever, you
can go to those encampments and hide out. And that's
what we're trying to keep out of the out of

(26:45):
the city of Fresno. And that was the intent behind
the encampment.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
You know, I've never thought of that. I heard the
story once of a guy saying he would beg it
in an out burger, get enough money, go back to
an encampment called a drug dealer. That's about as far
as I ever went into an encampment. But you're right,
a great place to hide, it's a.

Speaker 7 (27:01):
Great place for crime, and that makes it horribly as
now think about the mothers and children and vulnerable people
who are out there homeless on the streets. They're gonna
get taken advantage of in those encampments, and our goal
is to get them plugged in with long lasting, significant
resources and help, as opposed to just put them somewhere
where they're at more risk.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
Don't we really we should divide this into two categories,
sober and not sober. Let's deal with people that pass
the drug test differently than we do those that are
using something that their life's not going to be in order.
We're not going to hand you a room key if
you're on heroin or fetnol. It's just not going to
work out. I know there's a big push now federal
government saying we're going to change that priority of housing first,

(27:40):
but California is fighting that and now funds are going
to be taken away from housing first, and I guess
some of those will close down and they'll be back
out on the more on the street.

Speaker 7 (27:51):
A lot of the money that comes into the City
of Fresno isn't generated by We're not big enough to
be able to provide everything that we need for a
city of six hundred thousand our account of one point
one million. So a lot of that money is state
and federal money, and if that's coming down, you've got
to follow the rules of that money. I got a
bunch of angry people on social media chirping off a
couple of weeks ago because the federal government decided to

(28:12):
change the terms of a grant that gave us money
to start projects we started, and they wanted to complain
about it and say, well, we're going to follow the law.

Speaker 6 (28:18):
At the end of the day, sorry, we're going.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
To follow the law.

Speaker 7 (28:20):
We're going to follow the constitution. It's what I've always
done is the way it's going to work. So with
that low barrier, housing is what we have to be
able to provide to people of work.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
It's low barrier.

Speaker 7 (28:29):
Low barrier essentially means that we're not going to prod
you and ask you all kinds of questions about your
status of this and your drug use and whatever else.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
You know, we're just going to pay in a cup.

Speaker 6 (28:37):
Nope, we're just going to put you in housing. So
that's great, get them off the streets. But there's a
lot more than just drug use or alcoholism that goes
into it. There's a mental illness.

Speaker 7 (28:46):
You've got folks who are actively serving or actively have
warrants on their name, or our criminals on the run,
and we can't ask any of that information when we
give you housing.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
Do you agree though, we have it into two categories
because of people that do want to get their lives better,
they're going to be surrounded by people that are using.
Even when they're trying to get off, they say they
want to be sober. You have a sober housing. Knewsom
vetoed that almost all the Democrats in Sacramento were wanting
ten percent of the homeless budget to go to sober housing,
so they wouldn't have the influence, so you wouldn't have

(29:16):
the people up at night yelling and screaming and whatnot.
More of a normal life, And he vetoed that for
a second year in a row, and almost all the
Democrats were wanting it to happen.

Speaker 6 (29:25):
I would say it's three categories.

Speaker 7 (29:26):
I would say there are a category of people who
do want help and they're going to do what they
need to do to get it. They're the people who
do not want help and they enjoy what they have
right now based on astorals, yes. And the folks who
are not in a place where they can accept that
help because they need some other sort of really high
intensity intervention first, whether it is drugs, or its mental illness,
or it's you know, alcohol, or it's some other issue

(29:48):
that they got going on.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
Don't you wish there was a spirit in the government
at times where they would call it tough love. Hey,
we love these people so much they're destroying their lives,
going to have to treat them differently than the average
person with the average bill of rights backing them up. Yep.

Speaker 7 (30:05):
And as American citizens, they do have the right that
the American Constitution applies to them just as much as
everybody else. And I'm a big protector of that. So
I understand the tough situation there is, but that doesn't
mean that tough love can't exist, that doesn't mean we
can't put criteria, stipulations and regulations on shelters or on
the places where they're housing people who need it the most.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
I know our courts are clogged up. It wouldn't it
be great to have a judge that will sitting and
have to listen to at least five family members testify
and if they do it kind of like the red
flag law where they can come take a gun from
somebody if Uncle Cleam's acting crazy with it, where a
family could check them in. It used to be that way, right.

Speaker 6 (30:41):
Well, that's the tough part too.

Speaker 7 (30:43):
Say you get the family who comes in there and says, yeah,
this person needs other help, not housing, or they're an
issue whatever. Okay, so you take them the jail where
our jails are full. So they're going to go to
jail for maybe twenty four hours and then get out,
hop on the bus for free, and be right back
where they were doing whatever they were doing. And the
cop still has to fill out the reports and waste
the time.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
Do I all right, let's eat some good food, watch
football exactly. I don't know what we do man, sure
if Joe are Pyo Camps. I even thought maybe start Methville, Cokeville,
Heroin Land out in the middle of Nevada and fence
them in and just drop it air aerial saults. They'd
all get on the bus to go there.

Speaker 7 (31:20):
I'm not sure that name's gonna sell, but I think
that the principle I think that you're pointing to is
target it a demographic out of time and give them
what they need. And so I'm a big fan of that. Right,
you can target just veterans, and we've got most of
the veterans in the city of Fresno off the streets
in the last year fantastic, mostly through the work of
non governmental organizations and nonprofits. But you focus on them,
and then you focus on just mothers with kids, You

(31:42):
focus on just folks who have job training and need jobs.
You focus on a demographic out of time, and stop
pretending there's a blanket cure for everything. You're gonna find
more fixes.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
I was hoping we keep talking until I found what
I was looking for. Could you not see me going
through this? Right here? The Vietnam replica wall is here
in this well that heals, the wall that heals, and
I had the park. I'll give it in a minute.
I got two much of paper. But it's gonna be
here till Sunday at two. It's the park over just
south of the Clovis Medical Center there. I forget the
name of it, but do you know the name of it.

(32:13):
I don't know. It's here somewhere, but it's out there
and it's gonna be there till Sunday at two. Say
it again, Ryan David McDonald park, Thank you, Director Ryan Nigel.
Till two o'clock on Sunday, and it's open twenty four hours.
You go out there at two am and look at
it that it is and you'll see me out there.

Speaker 6 (32:30):
And if you miss me, then I was there.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
Is any ceremony you're involved with or anything like that. Nope,
not necessarily.

Speaker 6 (32:37):
Just something that's close to my heart. And my grandpa's
a Vietnam eravel.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
By your military background.

Speaker 7 (32:42):
Yeah, I did about ten years active duty in the
Marine Corps and then moved to the reserves in twenty
twenty two, and that's what allowed me to move home.
My grandpa was a, like I said, proud Vietnam era vet,
and he and I go do a lot of those
veterans things together.

Speaker 6 (32:52):
I got a few grandpas who served.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
Can I tell you full transparency here Lorenzo Rio's Clovis
Veterans Memorial Districts. Hey, buddy, I got a seat for you,
and I was like, he paused, and I said where
and when? And he said on a black Hawk And
I said, like with it running on the ground with
the rotors running, and he goes, no, We're gonna take
like a thirty minute flight around the valley. Black Hawk up,

(33:17):
black Hawk up. And I said, I'm chicken, I did,
I said, I go, I go? I would I mind?
That might mean I might run from a foxhold. Dude,
I just know I can't. I can't do it. I
I'm nervous on Southwest airlines too, so I'd.

Speaker 6 (33:34):
Like to blame you for that.

Speaker 7 (33:35):
But I see helicopters the same way I see jet skis.
There are a ton of fun to drive, and riding
on the back of one not my favorite.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
Okay, Anyhow I chickened out on that. So Hey, thank
you for coming by, man, always great to see you.
And No One fifty have you got in your ballot yet?
Did it have holes in the envelope like Sacramento had?

Speaker 7 (33:54):
I agreed, No One fifty. We did get our ballots.
They mind did not have holes.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
It was holeless mine mine as well. Thank you man. Absolutely,
let's not say have a good weekend. But it's not Friday.
It feels like Friday to me. I mean to start early.
Why not? City Council and Nick Richardson. We are live
at the Press Box Sports Grille, seventeen eighty five Herndon
in the northwest corner of Herndon and Fowler, right there
next to all these We're going to talk with City

(34:18):
council Woman Mayor pro Tem Diane Pierce is going to
be joining us after five o'clock here as we're live
in her. City of Clovis's Trevor Nation all over the place.
No on fifty tour, Trevor Nation, all over the place.
No on the five oh tour. The weather is just
beautiful out here. Coming up after five, we're going to

(34:39):
talk with City of Clovis Mayor pro Tem Diane Pierce.
She's been very much outspoken as the whole City Council
of Clovis has getting involved with it. We just had
City Council and Nick Richardson in. They're not as in
I guess, in agreement in the City of Fresno over this,
but there's just so much well just fly out lying,

(35:00):
that's what it is. It's really disgusting to know what's
going on and then to sit there and have to
endure because I can't find the remote. A commercial on
YouTube of we're doing this for the people to hear
Newsom talking about all that. It's just isn't it repelling?
It really is? And I can say that the people
that are fighting this actually love the state. And yeah,

(35:23):
there's more to a state than just the ground. You know,
a lot of people go back and I talk to
people that you know, they're great, great, great great. You know,
with ag comes that kind of of a community, and
it really does, because they take over the land and
it's you I know, people take over Paul's butcher shop
in Brooklyn as well. But it's it's ingrained here and

(35:44):
a lot of people want to save this because as
just talking with someonem and Carl de Mayo talking about
you know, young and how we remember and somebody that
lived in New Jersey, or lived in Georgia, or lived
in Wisconsin, California was the place to be. So they
loaded up to truck and they moved to Beverly Hills.
That is, the assistant Trevor carry Show on the Valley's

(36:06):
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