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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Avery. All right, Dad, what's your name? Eric? Eric? And Avery?
All right, guys, step up to the line right there.
If either of you hit two out of four, we're
gonna give you a four pack. Two out of three.
We're at two out of three. All right, how old
are you? Avery? Hold on twelve? He's not a teenager yet.
Take one step forward. All right, all right, that's a
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twelve year old line. Go ahead, two out of three?
There you go, all right, here he goes one. He Okay,
it's hanging on the edge. If you hit the next
one in, you'll get two. Well, if you hit that
one in and the next one goes in, that one
that's hanging, Oh that was so close if it had
just clipped it. He got one out of three. We
call that all right. Let's see what dad can do
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from the dad line. Back there, Hey, come on, bye, man,
play some corn dog hole at the sports station. He
is off with that one. This is riveting play by play.
We had one out of three. Okay, we're gonna let
him pick one. Well, look at John Matcha being. Look
at that. He lets you, guys break the rule. Go
ahead and pick out an Oh, I see his eye
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on the flavor flave resno bulldog GOLDI I'm not telling
you that you can pick a hat. You can pick
anything you want out on this table there, Avery, right, Avery,
I remember, I remembered right, he's talking away here. Listen,
we're gonna be out here till six o'clock and thanks
to c K with our simulcast with Fox Sports thirteen forty,
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we're gonna be doing that the first hour every Friday
as this season continues on here or continues on it
hadn't even started yet. It will tomorrow though in Kansas
as the Dogs take on the Jayhawks and Lawrence. We'll
have our warm up which he can the crew at
one thirty, pre game with Leffler coach Hill camarrel at
two thirty, and the kickoff at three point thirty. We
got some more corn Dog holers have stepped here as well.
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I guess they'll alert me if anybody hits two out
of three there to win as well. I have the
schedule in front of me for those that are just
now interested in what's all going on Kansas tomorrow, next weekend.
Georgia Southern September sixth away at Oregon State September thirteenth,
that will be home against Southern University, September twentieth, away
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with Hawaii, October fourth, home with Nevada, October tenth, away
with Colorado State, October twenty fifth, home against San Diego State,
November first away with Boise and on the fifteenth of
November Wyoming at home, and on the twenty second Utah
State at home, and the twenty ninth of November Santo
State State away. So there is the schedule for the
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twenty twenty five football schedule. Did you wind? You hit
two out of you hit two out of three? Congratulations?
What'd you pick? Are you still looking? You're going to
Presdent State? Oh, she's an alumni. Okay, gotcha, all right,
you gotta pick. Oh she won the tickets. What's your name? Tzirae?
You got the four pack? Congratulations? Georgia Southern next Saturday. Okay,
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I see three people cheering you. Is that where the
four pack is going? Or? Am I putting you on
the spot here? You know that's why you guys were
cheering so loud. You're like, pick me. Come on, all right, guys,
thank you for playing. DESI a see we're giving it away.
We'll be here till six o'clock. How you doing you?
You want to play corn hole to win some prizes?
Right here? Look at that? You win game tickets. John,
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we got another way. He's let him get the winners info.
And well, have you played yourself? If you had two
out of three, you could win some prizes or present
state football tickets for next Saturday. So go browse around.
You can come on back and roll here. Yeah, everybody played, man,
I tell you, this season's gonna be something else. And
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I have never there was some Colon Kaepernick action which
kind of got me out of the NFL, and really,
for the first time in my life, I became such
a college football watcher, and at that time, Fresno State
well college football living here. I never stayed anywhere long
enough to really get an allegiance going, but I sure
have and it's still fun. Look at that. I'm looking
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at David Tongapa. He's over there. Hey, you got you
some stuff? What'd you get? What'd you get? Three shirts
and a polo? You're losing some weight, so you had
to get some new clothes. Well, thank you for supporting
the business here sembleman. Yeah, all right, they're all in
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the bag, or i'd ask you to whip them out,
but we twenty five percent off on one item. You're
a good salesman. You're a good salesman, all right? Look
at that. Hey, I was talking there with the David.
He's David today with the assemblyment about our aging football
stadium and the public private partnership that's been going on.
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And I've been reading. Fresle B had an article about
this about how they could partner with investors for football stadiums,
and I was reading how some of these like Kansas
and c K was telling me about that. How that's
where the jay Dogs open against the Jayhawks tomorrow, the
David Booth Kansas Memorials Stadium. Talking about the renovations. It's
about halfway done, but they're gonna they're gonna build suites,
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they're gonna when these winter suits, a club lounge. They're
gonna do fan amenities, leg room in the seating areas,
they say, improved site lines as well as restrooms and
concession areas as well there. And uh, they're gonna have
a lot of nice things coming with this renovation, just
like we're giving away a lot of nice things here
at the Sports Station. We got another winter I tell
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you they're getting the eyeball. The first hour they were
cold as ice, but they're heating it up here in
the four o'clock hour here. I I still don't know
how people pass up the inflatable mascot led I have.
I have no idea. I know everybody goes. I don't
have enough room for that. That's a big old blow up.
That's a big old well. You can keep picking out here.
Public private partnership. Uh. They did it down in San
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Diego State. They at the stadium they're out of forgot
it's something dragging or something. They they did a residential
property there. They actually built a whole tel, a hotel there.
They have retail space, they have it. Hey, you're welcome,
thank you you bet. In San Diego they got more
than one million feet of office, they got like technology
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and research space, and the project costs more than three
hundred million according to university. Up in Michigan State, they're
building one hundred and fifty million dollar sports arena through
public private partnership. Down in Texas, Moody in twenty twenty two,
three hundred and seventy five million. They didn't use any
university or public money. It was a public private partnership.
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Now that takes a lot of private money with some
people with some money, of course, but they said down
in Texas, the university gets ownership of the land and
the building. They have control of the arena and revenue
including parking and all the food and all the merchandise.
And they get this for sixty dates a year indoor
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basketball games, of course, graduation, other events. And they get
twenty percent of all the revenue that's generated by all
the suites that they bring into the arena. And it
doesn't matter what event it is as well. So I'm
quoting here in this article for Sdent State Athletic Director
Garrett Classa. He said, it's absolutely a model to look
at now. He was up in Chicago. They built he
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set a residential academic complex on campus through a public
private partnership. We got another winner, he said. If you
look around our campus, there's a need for more businesses.
That's part of the discussion. I can't guarantee it's part
of the final plan, but absolutely it's something for the
university to explore. Now, I guess renovations would happen. And
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there's no dome over the valley Children's going on. But
an indoor arena that's good costs a lot, but they're
talking about it paying itself off because it could book
more dates than just a football stadium as well. I
mean basketball plays what sixteen games a season, football plays six.
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But if you get it multi use out there and
you schedule outside of football, like the example of the
care concert brought in two million dollars from outside the area,
you keep popping all those up and pretty soon you're
looking at some serious money as well. The public private
partnership that talk about this with renovation at Valley Children's
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or you know it's gonna take new construction. They're talking
about a possible conference center, a smaller entertainment venue, retail,
student housing somebody even a hotel going in at campus point,
the public private development on the east side of the campus.
So as solutions. I thank you to Sandy who mailed me.
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She listens to the show. She sends me old newspapers
in the old Fresno Bees from the eighties and you know,
some of them into the night. He's but hearing all
the aspirations and reading some of those stories about like downtown. Well,
it takes a lot of money, and we'll see if
that money can come up. We of course, have had
some ballot measures that needed fifty percent of the vote
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plus one to pass, and that was rejected in twenty
twenty two and twenty twenty four with a sales tax
as well, But really haven't had any upgrades since nineteen
ninety two when they put in twenty two seats suites
and eleven thousand seats were added in there as well.
They actually had some financials in here, said Prosidol. State
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in twenty twenty four reported football operating revenues of fourteen
point three million dollars. Okay, that sounds like a lot
of money to deal with, right San Diego thirty point
six million, Poise State thirty million dollars. So yeah, that
makes that fourteen point three look a little bit harder
to actually get out there and spread around. But I
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think it's good. I think it'd be great for the
valley and I think it would help a lot of
growth and opportunity here. The sales tax aspect of it,
of course, I don't know. Maybe try it again, see
what happens with that public private partnership. Actually seems to
be something to I guess imitate as well as we've
seen it. But it all a lot of it really
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depends too with winning. Let's be real about it, when
cities turn on fire when sports teams win. I well,
I lived in la with some winning, but that's such
a big area. He didn't have the same influence as like,
like I remember living in Denver when the Rockies in
O seven went to the World Series. That brought an
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excitement to the town. Fresno State winning that brings an
excitement to any city, to any program as well. And
last year, of course, with the interim coach Skipper, there
a lot of people, as I was talking with c
K last Hour about it, a lot of people you know,
wanted him to stay on, said he didn't have a
real shot with actually you know, his team, him getting
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to build it. I think I said during that time
period something to the effect of coach Skipper was told, hey,
here's the Titanic, get it to Port. And it arrived
at Port, it made it in. It was yeah, it
kind of damaged, but it made it in. He survived.
But of course that's all in the past. And I
was also saying with c K last Hour about it's
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funny how we move ahead so quickly and very much
excited for tomorrow as the Dogs take on Kansas Jayhawks
and Lawrence. We'll have the warm up with Ck and
Crew at one thirty, pre game with Leffler coach Hill
Camlorell two thirty, in the kickoff at three point thirty. Listen,
if you want to come on out, you want to
win a four pack to next weekend's home opener with
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Georgia Southern. We are playing corn dog hole. I think
we're gonna have a guy right here, he's gonna hit
two out of three and he's gonna win a four
pack of tickets. You want to give it a shot, sir,
Let's do this before we go to break. Got a
good feel about him, right back at the white and
gray line right there. All right there, turn around, you
hit two out of three, you get a four pack
to the Presentel Bulldogs at Georgia Southern. Let's see what
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he's doing here. All right here? Come shot one? Oh,
watch out behind this guy, all right, tone down the
arm a little bit. We don't want to knock things
off the wall. I'm kidding, all right, here we go.
Second shot, oh, lot softer? All right, well, we'll do
one here for Why did I feel so good? And
you didn't even hit the wood board? You didn't even
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It's not regulation, all right, he's a pro he's a
probe corn holer. Al right, he didn't even hit wood Guys. Hey,
I'm gonna tell you there was a four year old
up here that I'm giving you a better shot. All right,
let's go, man, I'm sure I'm okay. He backed up.
I see what he's doing. He's used to the distance up.
He almost hid it. Yep, okay, I'll eat my words.
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It was the distance up. All right, let's go. He's
in the middle of the mall. Oh listen, come by.
You can play your own corn dog holds a Trevor
Nation Lab of the Place Tour live at the Sports
station inside Fashion Fair. He did win, all right. We
got three dudes here going to try and hit two
out of three winning some prizes here. We'll be out
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here till six o'clock as well. We still got t
shirts are oh almost a seven foot led bulldog mascot.
They're all gone now, but we still got the Flavor
Flave gold chain. One of those is still here. We
still got some hats. We got some tumblers here. We
got some present state flags, we still got t shirts,
we still got beanies, we still got laminated posters out
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here as well. And we're gonna be doing all over
the place tour all fall man before every Frezzo State
football game. All right, that's one. Let's see. If he's
saying two out of three here, let's go. He did it,
Ladies and Joe. If he has three out of three,
he wins tickets and enterprise three out of three tickets
And okay, you want tickets, man? Is that what you want? Tickets?
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You got a four pack of tickets the next weekend's
resident state game against Georgia Southern. Enjoy man, look at
that man, thank you. Uh, listen to me, Trevor eight
to six. You can I sound real tall on the radio,
but you it's how Yeah, you're a little taller. So
there you go, man, So listen three to six and
enjoy the football game. Man, Hey, you bet you. That's
what it's like. You come out here. Uh, and you
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can win like that with a corn doghole competition for
the dogs as well. Uh. We're gonna be talking with
a former Fresnel State grad here. He's a musician, and
he's on his way. John. If you're hustling out there,
hey man, it's a Friday, relax. If you're listening to me,
he's texting, I see, oh north of south side, you're
asking me, Uh, I guess it'd be the south side.
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Not park in the back by uh by Macy's and yeah,
not on the uh on the black on the Shaw side. Yeah,
in the back. You just walk in and it'll look like
a casino because all the mirrors and the loud music.
I think I even almost heard people winning price. Hey,
you're welcome, man. What that's your name? Isaac? Thank you?
You bet you? You bet you. You're welcome man. But yeah,
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just walk through Macy's and then hang it right and
you'll see us here at the sports station. But his
twin brother was Derek Carr's roommate on the team, and
he oh, you won too. Look at all these congratulations man,
And my next guy's coming up to the bottom of
the hour, John Shabagley, and he just sing at the Vatican,
look at the products and out seeing it at the Vatican.
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We'll let him tell that story as well, and talk
a little bit about his twin brother playing with the
dogs and being roommates with Carr. I cannot get over
the hat collection. I tell you what that like. I said,
if I won the lottery, I would have a whole
wing of my house, and that's exactly what it would
look like. I wouldn't wear the same hat every day.
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I would rotate them around as well. And I can't
believe the little kids. So if they got stuff for
babies back there that looks legit like Mookie Betts, little
Mookie Bet baby, they got the whole setup. Here. I
was reading something about Volkswagen and what they're up to.
They're actually, if you want to get more horsepower in
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your car, you gotta pay more. So it's actually sitting there.
The horsepower is actually sitting there in your car, but
they lock the horsepower behind a subscription paywall. And I
was like, what in the world. I'd never heard of that,
And then I said, I looked up started reading a
little bit more about this story, and I guess it
was two years ago. Mercedes Benz started it saying they
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would lock sixty extra horsepower and if you wanted that
sixty extra horsepower, you had to pay ninety dollars a
month for them to kick it up. You know what,
I do have to say bravo to whoever was in
some kind of meeting there at Mercedes Benz and they're like,
how can we squeeze every last dime out of this car?
And the guy said, you know what, we when we
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back off the horse power and make them pay a
little bit more, pretty soon we'll be buying cars and
you'll be having to pay a subscription price for the
water to come out of your windshow wipers. Yeah, you
got the wind show wipers, but you gotta pay a
subscription price if you want water to come out of
the wind show wipers. Watch this will continue now. I
know you used to have to pay more, like to
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get air conditioning and back in the day to get
an AM FM cassette player or AMFM CD player. Yeah,
it costs more to get things like that. But Volkswagen
decided to join this subscription war. They right now, they're
listed at two hundred and one horse power. You pay
a little bit extra and they'll bump you up to
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two hundred and twenty eight. But Volkswagen's not charged as
much as Mercedes. They're only charging twenty two dollars a month.
For this, or you can just pay eight hundred and
seventy five dollars. You know when they take you into
that room after you buy a car and you think
you're done, and you got that real smiley guy sitting
in the ninth Hey, what you need. I know you
got little kids, and you're probably gonna be stopping at
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wind and you're gonna have some frosty on the back seat.
So let's get this leather protected that just three hundred
and eighty four dollars and we'll do the wheel ballance thing.
You know that guy that sells you all that extra
So I guess now you'll be going in and they'll
be trying to sell you extra horsepower as well with
that fee. So can you imagine rushing to the I
don't know, baby and labor Russian to the hospital and
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your subscription runs out midway. I'll still stay on the
ground after hearing stories like this, the hurricane that was well,
I guess it hit, but a few days ago. It
was really out there. And there is an airline that
always seems to get the stories about it that make
you kind of always say, but spared airline. They set
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a plane flew right through the hurricane. Those are the
things that you normally kind of try and bypass. From Newsweek,
they said the plane Spared Airlines flew right into the
storm before turning south that left Philadelphia on his way
to San Juan, and the flight path showed it flew
right through a Category four storm. Spirit Airlines said safety
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is always our top priority. In this case, our pilots
followed procedure while en routes of San Juan. I guess
maybe you could fly could fly over it. My next guest,
John just walked in. You don't have to talk yet.
I just need a thumbs up, her thumbs down. He's
gonna come on next. Do you have an airplane freak
out like turbulent story because you fly? What do you
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have one thumbs up or kind of thumbs Yeah, Okay,
we're gonna talk to him about that. We're gonna talk
to him about his brother's twin brother being roommates with
Derek Carr back in the day. And he just sang
at the Vatican in Rome in front of a whole
bunch of Catholics. Look at that brave Protestant getting up
there and proclaiming, man, he's just back every time I
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talk to him. He has a fascinating story. John Shabbagley
enjoys its. Next, it's a Trevor Nation all over the
place tour. We're live here at the sports station inside
fashion Fair. Thank Mercedes, who works at Macy She's just
folded our t shirts. Uh, And I told her I
worked at Miller's outpost of clothing store. How do I'm
Trevor with my little star? And to this day, I look,
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she's undoing it. Mercedes, it you want it? Okay? I
still can't. I cannot go into a store. I don't
know why people treat close the way that they do. Okay,
it's a product, and we give them money for it.
Right a plumber, a plumber comes over, we give him money.
We don't go out to his van and mess all
this tools up? Why do we do that with clothing stores?
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This is true. I'm glad I got you.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
I'm glad I'm standing up for that. What is wrong
with people? And they're getting crazier, aren't they getting? You'll
be in a safe way. You'll find uh, You'll find oranges.
You'll find some frozen sausage over on top of a
can of green beans. Because somebody just put it there.
They's time to care. I had no idea I was
going to go off on this John. Thank you, John Shabak,
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ladies and gentlemen, John, tell everybody who you represented, what
you do. I'm just gonna let you talk for a
minute here.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Oh you're great. Wells forever.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Always been enjoyed to collaborate this last last last year
or so, now we've been collabing. So I've had the
privilege of being a musician, recording artists and music minister
for the last twenty plus years, a Bulldog graduate. And
now we started work seven years ago called psalmist Mission
where we trained musicians with God's heart for hurting world
in a nine month worship cohort. We do p Salmismission
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dot org. And so I'm trying to not only be
a musician that invests.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
In our writing. You are well, thank you man.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
But now we're training a bunch of others who can
help not only be known or seen, but serve your
hurting world.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
So music just kind of touched the human soul.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Right.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
You can say you know God sees you, and you
can say God see ease you, and all of a
sudden the human soul wakes up.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
You know, you know, we don't ever carry around to
our favorite movie per se. But everybody has their favorite song.
That salt music is something extra special.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
And that's his fun.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
You got a favorite movie, but it's different than.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Your favorite song, probably right, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Favorite food maybe comes a little closer to those favorite song.
But songs you can hear it and you can flash
back to an emotion, a memory, a decade, a time period.
You can almost smell the people that were in your life. Right.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
That's the way art is. It's the way God made art.
It touches us in deep ways.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
When when does writing songs hit you at some of
the weirdest times, or do you go, honey, I'm gonna
take songwriting time and go sit down with my pen
and paper.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
No, I mean, And then then it reminds me of
a couple of weeks ago, sitting in the back overlooking
the Vatican, when I got asked to sing our song
called Hold Me Together, when God Held Me Together, And
I would have had no idea years later we would
have been singing it over the Vatican with the young
adults from many different nations singing.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Hole Me Together. You hole me together, and so you don't.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Life so often creates these moments and then you get
to pass it on in in a special way. And
that's a special thing as a songwriter, to serve your world.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Now you were over in Israel, you you were am
I remembering Rome and then Rome again.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Yeah, yeah, Italy and then yeah Rome and.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
They were singing a song all at one time around
the world. That was the first room thing, that's right.
And then you went back and had pop tarts with
the Pope. Tell him what he was like at breakfast? Right?
You know?
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Pop Leo quite a man, you know, Yeah, Pope Francis,
he just he just left the planet. And uh, and
I've never been to Rome, and now I've been there
twice in a couple of months. And now we were
actually about about a two hundred feet above the Vatican
under a Vatican flag. I'm singing and h leading this
whole group and and Pope Leo's were like we could
have had the most VIP seat there was. It was
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with the venue and he's down there with mobs of
Italians from all over and it was so surreal because
you're me and my family looking over the rail just
staring at him and he's hearing your voice. Yeah, they
actually so. We led at two festivals. It's two day festival.
The first festival we led and a bunch of Italians
were there. The next day they met with Pope Leo
all in the Vatican and they said, when it got
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really quiet, we actually heard you singing at the top.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
So anyway, it's pretty crazy.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Now, John, the picture you sent me when we talked
on the phone the other day, I knew you wouldn't
have done this. I know you're not like Hakeem Jeffrey's
the minority leader in the house who photoshops used to
look slimmer. Yeah, but that picture you sent of you
singing into a microphone with the basilica.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Behind you, it looks fake. Huh, Yeah, it looks fake.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
I mean I was sitting in the back with my
family before we uh, I was about to go on
and and I was watching the sun set behind Saint
Peter's Basilica, and I'm sitting with my family and I'm like, God,
there's no way you're going to because the program went
an hour long, and I'm thinking, there's no way you're
waiting for the sun to go down before I get
up as that as a backdrop, right and literally it's
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exploding behind me when I'm up there.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
I don't know this me for interrupting your God's story. Hey, congratulations,
I'm winning. I'm glad you won. There you're you're welcome.
There you go back to God. Well that was very godly.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
There you go, there you go.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
I was touched. Okay, now go on story. Well it
was created. It was obviously so so precious. I mean,
you can't make the sky explode. But my friend was
blue and a light that I guess.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
There was a glow behind me. It looked like it
was fake, but it was the sunset.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Well okay, was the sun hitting the glow off the
basilica that kind of created that. That the the the.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Red blue ambient light that was from the lights from
the production and behind me the glow was the sunset.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Where could somebody go right now on their phone and
see this?
Speaker 2 (25:29):
I mean, yeah, did.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Did you post it? Think?
Speaker 3 (25:31):
I posted it on yeah on my Instagram and uh
and that is tell them yeah at John Schappaglin j
O N S A J B A G l I
N A l I A N fautiful. Yeah, pretty special
you know, you know, but you think it's fake, but
it wasn't. It happened, so it isn't.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
I I color with my color pencils, and I choose
the light, you know, the color, you know all of that,
and it makes you now think when you're out driving around,
look what a color or God was how he just
fun that? How fun that had to be to create
like that? And he just beauty sunsets man every day.
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And he's so creative. He just keeps painting new every day.
He starts over every day. He doesn't need to to
just he just creates it and then he keeps on going.
And I think as a creative that has been some
of the most amazing things to see God as the
master artist and to start painting with God for his
purposes and then not just to you know, to serve
your world painting with God, it's been pretty special. And
(26:29):
in how sunrises or sun rises or crisp and sunsets or.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Muniform and yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
The difference in that totally as well.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Well.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Congratulations on there we got the winners are we Vegas
Arenal who I don't know, Uh, congratulations all right, enjoy
the shirt as well. Who won who did you win
it for her? She won it? She beat you? Man?
All right, well congratulations, Hey did you try it yet?
Speaker 2 (26:59):
I know, but I'm gonna have to do it.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Yeah, let the mic down, take off the headphones, because
I want you to come back and talk about your
twin brother here.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Yeah, he's pretty something special.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
All right, Here goes John sha Bagley in on the
corn dog hole, from the sports station, inside fashion Fair,
the Tribor Nation, all over the place store. Okay, one
out of two, one more, one out of two. Choke.
That was a choke. That was let's don't take a
picture of that. It would have no sunshine of God
(27:29):
behind what you just did.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Right, that's right. We all have many weaknesses.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
That was darkness. Your brother got the sports gene, though,
didn't he? This is true, man, he sing though he
actually can't sing. We actually used to sing the national
anthem for our basketball games. When did you play ball at? Oh?
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Yeah, brother, I played all hoops all through high school.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
Like but he you know, he was the d one
athlete with the chisel at eight pack, and I was
a fat kid who could sing.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Hi, Trevor, That's basically how it were.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Well, you don't play basketball. If you're the fat kid,
you could maybe be a pulling guard or something.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
But so it was that.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Thankfully when I got into hoops to kind of reset
my metabolism and that helped out pretty good. But God
made sure I had I was living in the shadow
for a while. He was the last white.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Armenian dude left in the track heath. If you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Everybody else with brothers, but you know, and but my
twin was super fast and he would wake up buffer
and I was always like, that's not fair.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
You didn't even do anything.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
So but he's always that like you were right along
with him, same grade, same age, shame everything. Did they
dress you the same when you were little? Early on?
Speaker 2 (28:29):
We definitely had that, you know.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
As the story goes, my parents they couldn't have kids,
and then actually prayed the loan of child of God
and gave birth.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
To my twin brother.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Then the doctor said get ready for exhibition, being pushed again,
and she's.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Like what, and out I came.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
They didn't know a better, They.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Didn't even know, so I was eight minutes behind my twin.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
But did they know beck? I don't remember that. There
was no ultra shoun I don't.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
I think I.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Don't really know what you were reborn well seventy nine,
so so yeah, so it was they thought, she's like,
I just have a big baby. He was, she had too,
So having a twin is really special. We're each other's
cheer in corner. And you know, he's amazing, so proud
of him, and you know vice versa.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
What was that like she didn't go through high school?
And did he get other college offers or was she? Yeah,
pulled in a couple of different directions. And same thing
even after college was he had some offers to some
professional combines and stuff.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
He did great.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
You know, he was always just an exceptional athlete and
and so it was great. You know, I studied music
and he studied like eighty things and you know, I
mean he's like super smart too. So we had the
major in English, double minor and business and linguistics while
being a.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Presence day and then and then goes to law school.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Right, so well we've been talking about recently with the name,
image and likeness and how tough it is for student athletes.
Your your brother, smart guy.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
He's now what now but now he's a deputy district
attorney up and San Jose.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
So he had to study, he had to work out,
he had to go to practice, he had games, he
had at all that. What's your thoughts on name, image
and likeness in paying college athletes now some money to.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Yeah, I'm honestly, I'm a little worried it's diluting the
purity of it all. I mean, I'm all for people
getting affirm for what they do, but I think we
already have such an emphasis. I think there's a beautiful
purity about self sacrifice, supporting your team. And I'm a
little worried about money making everything upside down.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
But that's me and I am so quite the opposite. Okay,
you're an eighteen nineteen twenty twenty one, twenty two year
old with phenomenal talent, and your talent is packing in
one hundred thousand people in a stadium. Well, we pay
eighteen nineteen twenty twenty one year old singers that are
packing stadiums, don't we look at the talent? Your brother has,
the talent you have, See, That's how I look at it. Yeah, Now,
(30:47):
I Kenny wig Ands farmer Bulldog and went on to
the NFL. He was talking about like in the NFL
to get pay for play, you make a great play,
you play a certain amount of time, you get above
your minimum or whatever your salary. It's because you played
extra out there working. So I could see if you do.
You know, you used to get stickers on your football helmets,
were doing a great play' turn that into well you
(31:11):
saw how what it was like. I mean, it had
to be hard for your brother to keep like pocket
change going. I don't know what his personal life was
like for these college athletes. David Tongyapop was in here
talking about it one time. Yeah, or was it Kenny
Wigans said they had like thirteen dollars And that.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Sounds about right. It sounds like starving artists. We know
all about it, man.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Yeah, well, what's he you said?
Speaker 3 (31:30):
He's deputy district District attorney level four, so he's legit.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Man, he's taking down the bad guys. I'm so proud
of him.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
And and then now my niece and nephews are coming
up as the next gen athletes, so it's pretty fun
to watch.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Now you help a lot of people in the valley
that want to become singers. It's almost like a singing
boot camp. Kind of thing that you have going on,
John Shabagli, and tell folks how they can get a
hold of you if they want to get involved with
what you do. Yeause, you're a boot camp. You're a
drill sergeant too, right, you don't you don't put up
with if you're not in for the game. Right to
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waste my time?
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Right right?
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Well we got to raise up Sofi, you've seen your
music video. I appreciate It'll sit out in the forest
and play a piano and be gentle. Totally.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
People matter, man, people matter, we say, uh uh, training
musicians from the inside out.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
So it's called Psalmist Mission.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
So Psalm a psalmist a Mission dot org or John
at Salmist Mission dot or you can send me, send
us an email or info. It's almost mission and just
training at the future. So now we're on year seven.
They are about one hundred and twenty twenty of them littered
all over the Central Valley graduates and now other states. Uh,
leading worship more churches than I can keep track of,
doing community events, serving in community outreaches and every color
(32:43):
you know, Korean, Latino, Dominican, Haitian, Ukrainian, See, Tennesseean and
it's been special to feel like you're hanging out with
a giant bag of skittles.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
And you know, and usually it's our diversity that keeps
us separate. I think God made us different on purpose
and that what makes it beautiful. And if you can
and music, it seems to bring us all together into
a specials.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
I'm sure you're going to say yes to this question,
but that's gonna Have you ever had students that come
in and have taught you something?
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Oh? All the time?
Speaker 3 (33:11):
In fact, one of the special things about inviting the
future is you know that that God is sending special
ones and they help color the whole work, and so
it keeps growing when you're raising up others and every
special person that dissembles because we don't just focus on
their skill. We focus on skill, but we also focus
in on their heart. So they're already thinking how do
(33:32):
I honor God with my gift and serve my world?
Not just get unbelievable, you know, and that they keep
coloring the work one one group at a time, one
individual at a time, and so it's honestly growing out
of control. So if you feel like music and mentorship
is something that the Valley should continue to have. These
are actually some critical months for us with Selma's mission.
Would love you to think about supporting it and so
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we can help pouring into the future. We wanted to
make it really economical, so we didn't just pour into
the call or the privilege. We poured into those people
of gifting and a calling, and so we've been able
to pour into a lot of minorities and like diversity
and stuff. But love you to consider that if we
keep trying to keep raising up the future.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Final question, yes, uh, do you have anybody that can
sing real good and gets a lot of applause on
stage and you have to in your training and kind
of deflate their head as it's growing.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Wonderful question?
Speaker 1 (34:21):
So, and what was yours like singing at the Vatican?
Did you have to deflate your own? Well, you always
got to keep it in check.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
And I think, honestly that's why God has made the
road incredibly costly, because he's got a He's got to
lovingly pummel you on the inside and so you realize
you're not that cute kid. And so we train in
nine pillars. One of our pillars is actually called uh
identity loved but not impressive. So we tell all these
gifted musicians, God doesn't need any more peacocks. You're just uh,
(34:47):
but he gave you peacock feathers that brings him on
or and so your colors are beautiful.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
But you're gonna give you your value. If you got
a young Bobby Brown up there, you'll let him go.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Right, we got it. Well, of course it's actually it's
not about squashing. It's actually about augment.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Yeah yeah, right, well you got a launch it. You
have it, you have that, you have the it thing.
I noticed it right originally.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Right, well, Trevor Carrey, we gotta do what we gotta do.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
John shabaglian Man, thank you for dropping by the sports
station inside Fashion Fair mall. And uh in closing right here,
I want you to give out that that side again.
Make sure everybody that might have heard it and go
what was it again? Awesome, he convinced me after I
listened to it. And now I'm gonna write it down.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
When you're kind so like psalms in the Bible, P
S A L M I S T. Psalmist Mission M
I S S I O n dot Org Music Mission,
nonprofit trying to train up the future in the Central Valley,
and now after seven years it's actually becoming a model
in many other regions and.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
And so around the world. So it's a pretty special
valley story.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
I'm a bulldog music major, like my twin played athletes,
and now we're trying to pour up in the futures.
Would love you to think about supporting us as we
keep pulling in the future. You're so watch games and
listening when you can. Oh yeah, oh yeah, he's I
mean he's and he's amazing, and we cheer each other.
I remember being in the stands when he was crushing it,
and he's been in my concerts. And that's how we
walk as twins.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
You know. John Shabaglin, God blesus. Thanks for stopping him.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
May the best, Trevor, thanks so much.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Man. Hey, we're here at the Sports Station, their new location.
They moved in the mall. They're right next to the
women's Macy's. You can park out front, come through the
food court, hang a right, or you can park in
the back lot. That's the south lot. I guess there, yes,
And you can come to women's Macy's and hang a
right and we're right inside.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Here come, It's to.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Trevor Nation all Over the Place tour Sports Station inside
Fashion Fair. We're at the Sports station new location, right
next to the women's Macy's. It's the all over the
Place Tourist.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
The first week.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
We're doing this and every Friday, if you joined us,
in the three o'clock hour ck On Sports from Fox
Sports thirteen forty, we did our first simulcast of our
two iHeart radio stations. And speaking of iHeartRadio stations, that's
where you can hear the game tomorrow as the Dogs
take on the Kansas Jayhawks and Lawrence warm up, C
(37:01):
K and the crew at one thirty, and then we'll
have the pregame. I can't believe we're back to saying this, man,
it's that time of the year. Paul Leffler coach Hill
camorl at two thirty. Then the kickoff live from Lawrence,
Kansas at three point thirty on the show. Do we
still have more tickets? Do we have any more football? Well, okay,
in the five o'clock hour, you can come out here
(37:21):
and play corn dog Hole. We'll have that four o'clock.
You know I'm gonna give you time getting off work
we'll do it right at five thirty, we'll do the
corn dog. We'll see how many people are in line
for this. We might have to make it two out
of three, possibly one out of three, I tell you.
And there's not as many corn dog holers that are
hitting that hole like I thought there would be. I
(37:41):
only hit one, didn't I And that was over my
head backwards. So I stopped after that. When you do
a shot like that and you hit it, you quit.
You don't try and do it again. Just like the
first time I was out doing a show at the fair,
I did my first horse horse racing bet and I
bet twenty and I won sixty bucks. It was odds
one and three there, and I should have quit this
(38:02):
Assistant Trevor Carey Show London Valley's Power Talk
Avery. All right, Dad, what's your name? Eric? Eric? And Avery?
All right, guys, step up to the line right there.
If either of you hit two out of four, we're
gonna give you a four pack. Two out of three.
We're at two out of three. All right, how old
are you? Avery? Hold on twelve? He's not a teenager yet.
Take one step forward. All right, all right, that's a
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twelve year old line. Go ahead, two out of three?
There you go, all right, here he goes one. He Okay,
it's hanging on the edge. If you hit the next
one in, you'll get two. Well, if you hit that
one in and the next one goes in, that one
that's hanging, Oh that was so close if it had
just clipped it. He got one out of three. We
call that all right. Let's see what dad can do
(00:42):
from the dad line. Back there, Hey, come on, bye, man,
play some corn dog hole at the sports station. He
is off with that one. This is riveting play by play.
We had one out of three. Okay, we're gonna let
him pick one. Well, look at John Matcha being. Look
at that. He lets you, guys break the rule. Go
ahead and pick out an Oh, I see his eye
(01:03):
on the flavor flave resno bulldog GOLDI I'm not telling
you that you can pick a hat. You can pick
anything you want out on this table there, Avery, right, Avery,
I remember, I remembered right, he's talking away here. Listen,
we're gonna be out here till six o'clock and thanks
to c K with our simulcast with Fox Sports thirteen forty,
(01:24):
we're gonna be doing that the first hour every Friday
as this season continues on here or continues on it
hadn't even started yet. It will tomorrow though in Kansas
as the Dogs take on the Jayhawks and Lawrence. We'll
have our warm up which he can the crew at
one thirty, pre game with Leffler coach Hill camarrel at
two thirty, and the kickoff at three point thirty. We
got some more corn Dog holers have stepped here as well.
(01:48):
I guess they'll alert me if anybody hits two out
of three there to win as well. I have the
schedule in front of me for those that are just
now interested in what's all going on Kansas tomorrow, next weekend.
Georgia Southern September sixth away at Oregon State September thirteenth,
that will be home against Southern University, September twentieth, away
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with Hawaii, October fourth, home with Nevada, October tenth, away
with Colorado State, October twenty fifth, home against San Diego State,
November first away with Boise and on the fifteenth of
November Wyoming at home, and on the twenty second Utah
State at home, and the twenty ninth of November Santo
State State away. So there is the schedule for the
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twenty twenty five football schedule. Did you wind? You hit
two out of you hit two out of three? Congratulations?
What'd you pick? Are you still looking? You're going to
Presdent State? Oh, she's an alumni. Okay, gotcha, all right,
you gotta pick. Oh she won the tickets. What's your name? Tzirae?
You got the four pack? Congratulations? Georgia Southern next Saturday. Okay,
(02:57):
I see three people cheering you. Is that where the
four pack is going? Or? Am I putting you on
the spot here? You know that's why you guys were
cheering so loud. You're like, pick me. Come on, all right, guys,
thank you for playing. DESI a see we're giving it away.
We'll be here till six o'clock. How you doing you?
You want to play corn hole to win some prizes?
Right here? Look at that? You win game tickets. John,
(03:20):
we got another way. He's let him get the winners info.
And well, have you played yourself? If you had two
out of three, you could win some prizes or present
state football tickets for next Saturday. So go browse around.
You can come on back and roll here. Yeah, everybody played, man,
I tell you, this season's gonna be something else. And
(03:40):
I have never there was some Colon Kaepernick action which
kind of got me out of the NFL, and really,
for the first time in my life, I became such
a college football watcher, and at that time, Fresno State
well college football living here. I never stayed anywhere long
enough to really get an allegiance going, but I sure
have and it's still fun. Look at that. I'm looking
(04:00):
at David Tongapa. He's over there. Hey, you got you
some stuff? What'd you get? What'd you get? Three shirts
and a polo? You're losing some weight, so you had
to get some new clothes. Well, thank you for supporting
the business here sembleman. Yeah, all right, they're all in
(04:21):
the bag, or i'd ask you to whip them out,
but we twenty five percent off on one item. You're
a good salesman. You're a good salesman, all right? Look
at that. Hey, I was talking there with the David.
He's David today with the assemblyment about our aging football
stadium and the public private partnership that's been going on.
(04:43):
And I've been reading. Fresle B had an article about
this about how they could partner with investors for football stadiums,
and I was reading how some of these like Kansas
and c K was telling me about that. How that's
where the jay Dogs open against the Jayhawks tomorrow, the
David Booth Kansas Memorials Stadium. Talking about the renovations. It's
about halfway done, but they're gonna they're gonna build suites,
(05:04):
they're gonna when these winter suits, a club lounge. They're
gonna do fan amenities, leg room in the seating areas,
they say, improved site lines as well as restrooms and
concession areas as well there. And uh, they're gonna have
a lot of nice things coming with this renovation, just
like we're giving away a lot of nice things here
at the Sports Station. We got another winter I tell
(05:26):
you they're getting the eyeball. The first hour they were
cold as ice, but they're heating it up here in
the four o'clock hour here. I I still don't know
how people pass up the inflatable mascot led I have.
I have no idea. I know everybody goes. I don't
have enough room for that. That's a big old blow up.
That's a big old well. You can keep picking out here.
Public private partnership. Uh. They did it down in San
(05:49):
Diego State. They at the stadium they're out of forgot
it's something dragging or something. They they did a residential
property there. They actually built a whole tel, a hotel there.
They have retail space, they have it. Hey, you're welcome,
thank you you bet. In San Diego they got more
than one million feet of office, they got like technology
(06:13):
and research space, and the project costs more than three
hundred million according to university. Up in Michigan State, they're
building one hundred and fifty million dollar sports arena through
public private partnership. Down in Texas, Moody in twenty twenty two,
three hundred and seventy five million. They didn't use any
university or public money. It was a public private partnership.
(06:37):
Now that takes a lot of private money with some
people with some money, of course, but they said down
in Texas, the university gets ownership of the land and
the building. They have control of the arena and revenue
including parking and all the food and all the merchandise.
And they get this for sixty dates a year indoor
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basketball games, of course, graduation, other events. And they get
twenty percent of all the revenue that's generated by all
the suites that they bring into the arena. And it
doesn't matter what event it is as well. So I'm
quoting here in this article for Sdent State Athletic Director
Garrett Classa. He said, it's absolutely a model to look
at now. He was up in Chicago. They built he
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set a residential academic complex on campus through a public
private partnership. We got another winner, he said. If you
look around our campus, there's a need for more businesses.
That's part of the discussion. I can't guarantee it's part
of the final plan, but absolutely it's something for the
university to explore. Now, I guess renovations would happen. And
(07:42):
there's no dome over the valley Children's going on. But
an indoor arena that's good costs a lot, but they're
talking about it paying itself off because it could book
more dates than just a football stadium as well. I
mean basketball plays what sixteen games a season, football plays six.
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But if you get it multi use out there and
you schedule outside of football, like the example of the
care concert brought in two million dollars from outside the area,
you keep popping all those up and pretty soon you're
looking at some serious money as well. The public private
partnership that talk about this with renovation at Valley Children's
(08:28):
or you know it's gonna take new construction. They're talking
about a possible conference center, a smaller entertainment venue, retail,
student housing somebody even a hotel going in at campus point,
the public private development on the east side of the campus.
So as solutions. I thank you to Sandy who mailed me.
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She listens to the show. She sends me old newspapers
in the old Fresno Bees from the eighties and you know,
some of them into the night. He's but hearing all
the aspirations and reading some of those stories about like downtown. Well,
it takes a lot of money, and we'll see if
that money can come up. We of course, have had
some ballot measures that needed fifty percent of the vote
(09:15):
plus one to pass, and that was rejected in twenty
twenty two and twenty twenty four with a sales tax
as well, But really haven't had any upgrades since nineteen
ninety two when they put in twenty two seats suites
and eleven thousand seats were added in there as well.
They actually had some financials in here, said Prosidol. State
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in twenty twenty four reported football operating revenues of fourteen
point three million dollars. Okay, that sounds like a lot
of money to deal with, right San Diego thirty point
six million, Poise State thirty million dollars. So yeah, that
makes that fourteen point three look a little bit harder
to actually get out there and spread around. But I
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think it's good. I think it'd be great for the
valley and I think it would help a lot of
growth and opportunity here. The sales tax aspect of it,
of course, I don't know. Maybe try it again, see
what happens with that public private partnership. Actually seems to
be something to I guess imitate as well as we've
seen it. But it all a lot of it really
(10:20):
depends too with winning. Let's be real about it, when
cities turn on fire when sports teams win. I well,
I lived in la with some winning, but that's such
a big area. He didn't have the same influence as like,
like I remember living in Denver when the Rockies in
O seven went to the World Series. That brought an
(10:42):
excitement to the town. Fresno State winning that brings an
excitement to any city, to any program as well. And
last year, of course, with the interim coach Skipper, there
a lot of people, as I was talking with c
K last Hour about it, a lot of people you know,
wanted him to stay on, said he didn't have a
real shot with actually you know, his team, him getting
(11:03):
to build it. I think I said during that time
period something to the effect of coach Skipper was told, hey,
here's the Titanic, get it to Port. And it arrived
at Port, it made it in. It was yeah, it
kind of damaged, but it made it in. He survived.
But of course that's all in the past. And I
was also saying with c K last Hour about it's
(11:25):
funny how we move ahead so quickly and very much
excited for tomorrow as the Dogs take on Kansas Jayhawks
and Lawrence. We'll have the warm up with Ck and
Crew at one thirty, pre game with Leffler coach Hill
Camlorell two thirty, in the kickoff at three point thirty. Listen,
if you want to come on out, you want to
win a four pack to next weekend's home opener with
(11:48):
Georgia Southern. We are playing corn dog hole. I think
we're gonna have a guy right here, he's gonna hit
two out of three and he's gonna win a four
pack of tickets. You want to give it a shot, sir,
Let's do this before we go to break. Got a
good feel about him, right back at the white and
gray line right there. All right there, turn around, you
hit two out of three, you get a four pack
to the Presentel Bulldogs at Georgia Southern. Let's see what
(12:10):
he's doing here. All right here? Come shot one? Oh,
watch out behind this guy, all right, tone down the
arm a little bit. We don't want to knock things
off the wall. I'm kidding, all right, here we go.
Second shot, oh, lot softer? All right, well, we'll do
one here for Why did I feel so good? And
you didn't even hit the wood board? You didn't even
(12:32):
It's not regulation, all right, he's a pro he's a
probe corn holer. Al right, he didn't even hit wood Guys. Hey,
I'm gonna tell you there was a four year old
up here that I'm giving you a better shot. All right,
let's go, man, I'm sure I'm okay. He backed up.
I see what he's doing. He's used to the distance up.
He almost hid it. Yep, okay, I'll eat my words.
(12:52):
It was the distance up. All right, let's go. He's
in the middle of the mall. Oh listen, come by.
You can play your own corn dog holds a Trevor
Nation Lab of the Place Tour live at the Sports
station inside Fashion Fair. He did win, all right. We
got three dudes here going to try and hit two
out of three winning some prizes here. We'll be out
(13:13):
here till six o'clock as well. We still got t
shirts are oh almost a seven foot led bulldog mascot.
They're all gone now, but we still got the Flavor
Flave gold chain. One of those is still here. We
still got some hats. We got some tumblers here. We
got some present state flags, we still got t shirts,
we still got beanies, we still got laminated posters out
(13:36):
here as well. And we're gonna be doing all over
the place tour all fall man before every Frezzo State
football game. All right, that's one. Let's see. If he's
saying two out of three here, let's go. He did it,
Ladies and Joe. If he has three out of three,
he wins tickets and enterprise three out of three tickets
And okay, you want tickets, man? Is that what you want? Tickets?
(13:58):
You got a four pack of tickets the next weekend's
resident state game against Georgia Southern. Enjoy man, look at
that man, thank you. Uh, listen to me, Trevor eight
to six. You can I sound real tall on the radio,
but you it's how Yeah, you're a little taller. So
there you go, man, So listen three to six and
enjoy the football game. Man, Hey, you bet you. That's
what it's like. You come out here. Uh, and you
(14:19):
can win like that with a corn doghole competition for
the dogs as well. Uh. We're gonna be talking with
a former Fresnel State grad here. He's a musician, and
he's on his way. John. If you're hustling out there,
hey man, it's a Friday, relax. If you're listening to me,
he's texting, I see, oh north of south side, you're
asking me, Uh, I guess it'd be the south side.
(14:42):
Not park in the back by uh by Macy's and yeah,
not on the uh on the black on the Shaw side. Yeah,
in the back. You just walk in and it'll look like
a casino because all the mirrors and the loud music.
I think I even almost heard people winning price. Hey,
you're welcome, man. What that's your name? Isaac? Thank you?
You bet you? You bet you. You're welcome man. But yeah,
(15:05):
just walk through Macy's and then hang it right and
you'll see us here at the sports station. But his
twin brother was Derek Carr's roommate on the team, and
he oh, you won too. Look at all these congratulations man,
And my next guy's coming up to the bottom of
the hour, John Shabagley, and he just sing at the Vatican,
look at the products and out seeing it at the Vatican.
(15:28):
We'll let him tell that story as well, and talk
a little bit about his twin brother playing with the
dogs and being roommates with Carr. I cannot get over
the hat collection. I tell you what that like. I said,
if I won the lottery, I would have a whole
wing of my house, and that's exactly what it would
look like. I wouldn't wear the same hat every day.
(15:50):
I would rotate them around as well. And I can't
believe the little kids. So if they got stuff for
babies back there that looks legit like Mookie Betts, little
Mookie Bet baby, they got the whole setup. Here. I
was reading something about Volkswagen and what they're up to.
They're actually, if you want to get more horsepower in
(16:12):
your car, you gotta pay more. So it's actually sitting there.
The horsepower is actually sitting there in your car, but
they lock the horsepower behind a subscription paywall. And I
was like, what in the world. I'd never heard of that,
And then I said, I looked up started reading a
little bit more about this story, and I guess it
was two years ago. Mercedes Benz started it saying they
(16:35):
would lock sixty extra horsepower and if you wanted that
sixty extra horsepower, you had to pay ninety dollars a
month for them to kick it up. You know what,
I do have to say bravo to whoever was in
some kind of meeting there at Mercedes Benz and they're like,
how can we squeeze every last dime out of this car?
And the guy said, you know what, we when we
(16:57):
back off the horse power and make them pay a
little bit more, pretty soon we'll be buying cars and
you'll be having to pay a subscription price for the
water to come out of your windshow wipers. Yeah, you
got the wind show wipers, but you gotta pay a
subscription price if you want water to come out of
the wind show wipers. Watch this will continue now. I
know you used to have to pay more, like to
(17:18):
get air conditioning and back in the day to get
an AM FM cassette player or AMFM CD player. Yeah,
it costs more to get things like that. But Volkswagen
decided to join this subscription war. They right now, they're
listed at two hundred and one horse power. You pay
a little bit extra and they'll bump you up to
(17:38):
two hundred and twenty eight. But Volkswagen's not charged as
much as Mercedes. They're only charging twenty two dollars a month.
For this, or you can just pay eight hundred and
seventy five dollars. You know when they take you into
that room after you buy a car and you think
you're done, and you got that real smiley guy sitting
in the ninth Hey, what you need. I know you
got little kids, and you're probably gonna be stopping at
(17:59):
wind and you're gonna have some frosty on the back seat.
So let's get this leather protected that just three hundred
and eighty four dollars and we'll do the wheel ballance thing.
You know that guy that sells you all that extra
So I guess now you'll be going in and they'll
be trying to sell you extra horsepower as well with
that fee. So can you imagine rushing to the I
don't know, baby and labor Russian to the hospital and
(18:22):
your subscription runs out midway. I'll still stay on the
ground after hearing stories like this, the hurricane that was well,
I guess it hit, but a few days ago. It
was really out there. And there is an airline that
always seems to get the stories about it that make
you kind of always say, but spared airline. They set
(18:45):
a plane flew right through the hurricane. Those are the
things that you normally kind of try and bypass. From Newsweek,
they said the plane Spared Airlines flew right into the
storm before turning south that left Philadelphia on his way
to San Juan, and the flight path showed it flew
right through a Category four storm. Spirit Airlines said safety
(19:08):
is always our top priority. In this case, our pilots
followed procedure while en routes of San Juan. I guess
maybe you could fly could fly over it. My next guest,
John just walked in. You don't have to talk yet.
I just need a thumbs up, her thumbs down. He's
gonna come on next. Do you have an airplane freak
out like turbulent story because you fly? What do you
(19:29):
have one thumbs up or kind of thumbs Yeah, Okay,
we're gonna talk to him about that. We're gonna talk
to him about his brother's twin brother being roommates with
Derek Carr back in the day. And he just sang
at the Vatican in Rome in front of a whole
bunch of Catholics. Look at that brave Protestant getting up
there and proclaiming, man, he's just back every time I
(19:51):
talk to him. He has a fascinating story. John Shabbagley
enjoys its. Next, it's a Trevor Nation all over the
place tour. We're live here at the sports station inside
fashion Fair. Thank Mercedes, who works at Macy She's just
folded our t shirts. Uh, And I told her I
worked at Miller's outpost of clothing store. How do I'm
Trevor with my little star? And to this day, I look,
(20:14):
she's undoing it. Mercedes, it you want it? Okay? I
still can't. I cannot go into a store. I don't
know why people treat close the way that they do. Okay,
it's a product, and we give them money for it.
Right a plumber, a plumber comes over, we give him money.
We don't go out to his van and mess all
this tools up? Why do we do that with clothing stores?
(20:37):
This is true. I'm glad I got you.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
I'm glad I'm standing up for that. What is wrong
with people? And they're getting crazier, aren't they getting? You'll
be in a safe way. You'll find uh, You'll find oranges.
You'll find some frozen sausage over on top of a
can of green beans. Because somebody just put it there.
They's time to care. I had no idea I was
going to go off on this John. Thank you, John Shabak,
(21:00):
ladies and gentlemen, John, tell everybody who you represented, what
you do. I'm just gonna let you talk for a
minute here.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Oh you're great. Wells forever.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Always been enjoyed to collaborate this last last last year
or so, now we've been collabing. So I've had the
privilege of being a musician, recording artists and music minister
for the last twenty plus years, a Bulldog graduate. And
now we started work seven years ago called psalmist Mission
where we trained musicians with God's heart for hurting world
in a nine month worship cohort. We do p Salmismission
(21:29):
dot org. And so I'm trying to not only be
a musician that invests.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
In our writing. You are well, thank you man.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
But now we're training a bunch of others who can
help not only be known or seen, but serve your
hurting world.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
So music just kind of touched the human soul.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Right.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
You can say you know God sees you, and you
can say God see ease you, and all of a
sudden the human soul wakes up.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
You know, you know, we don't ever carry around to
our favorite movie per se. But everybody has their favorite song.
That salt music is something extra special.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
And that's his fun.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
You got a favorite movie, but it's different than.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Your favorite song, probably right, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Favorite food maybe comes a little closer to those favorite song.
But songs you can hear it and you can flash
back to an emotion, a memory, a decade, a time period.
You can almost smell the people that were in your life. Right.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
That's the way art is. It's the way God made art.
It touches us in deep ways.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
When when does writing songs hit you at some of
the weirdest times, or do you go, honey, I'm gonna
take songwriting time and go sit down with my pen
and paper.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
No, I mean, And then then it reminds me of
a couple of weeks ago, sitting in the back overlooking
the Vatican, when I got asked to sing our song
called Hold Me Together, when God Held Me Together, And
I would have had no idea years later we would
have been singing it over the Vatican with the young
adults from many different nations singing.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Hole Me Together. You hole me together, and so you don't.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Life so often creates these moments and then you get
to pass it on in in a special way. And
that's a special thing as a songwriter, to serve your world.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Now you were over in Israel, you you were am
I remembering Rome and then Rome again.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Yeah, yeah, Italy and then yeah Rome and.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
They were singing a song all at one time around
the world. That was the first room thing, that's right.
And then you went back and had pop tarts with
the Pope. Tell him what he was like at breakfast? Right?
You know?
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Pop Leo quite a man, you know, Yeah, Pope Francis,
he just he just left the planet. And uh, and
I've never been to Rome, and now I've been there
twice in a couple of months. And now we were
actually about about a two hundred feet above the Vatican
under a Vatican flag. I'm singing and h leading this
whole group and and Pope Leo's were like we could
have had the most VIP seat there was. It was
(23:37):
with the venue and he's down there with mobs of
Italians from all over and it was so surreal because
you're me and my family looking over the rail just
staring at him and he's hearing your voice. Yeah, they
actually so. We led at two festivals. It's two day festival.
The first festival we led and a bunch of Italians
were there. The next day they met with Pope Leo
all in the Vatican and they said, when it got
(23:57):
really quiet, we actually heard you singing at the top.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
So anyway, it's pretty crazy.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Now, John, the picture you sent me when we talked
on the phone the other day, I knew you wouldn't
have done this. I know you're not like Hakeem Jeffrey's
the minority leader in the house who photoshops used to
look slimmer. Yeah, but that picture you sent of you
singing into a microphone with the basilica.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Behind you, it looks fake. Huh, Yeah, it looks fake.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
I mean I was sitting in the back with my
family before we uh, I was about to go on
and and I was watching the sun set behind Saint
Peter's Basilica, and I'm sitting with my family and I'm like, God,
there's no way you're going to because the program went
an hour long, and I'm thinking, there's no way you're
waiting for the sun to go down before I get
up as that as a backdrop, right and literally it's
(24:44):
exploding behind me when I'm up there.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
I don't know this me for interrupting your God's story. Hey, congratulations,
I'm winning. I'm glad you won. There you're you're welcome.
There you go back to God. Well that was very godly.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
There you go, there you go.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
I was touched. Okay, now go on story. Well it
was created. It was obviously so so precious. I mean,
you can't make the sky explode. But my friend was
blue and a light that I guess.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
There was a glow behind me. It looked like it
was fake, but it was the sunset.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Well okay, was the sun hitting the glow off the
basilica that kind of created that. That the the the.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Red blue ambient light that was from the lights from
the production and behind me the glow was the sunset.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Where could somebody go right now on their phone and
see this?
Speaker 2 (25:29):
I mean, yeah, did.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Did you post it? Think?
Speaker 3 (25:31):
I posted it on yeah on my Instagram and uh
and that is tell them yeah at John Schappaglin j
O N S A J B A G l I
N A l I A N fautiful. Yeah, pretty special
you know, you know, but you think it's fake, but
it wasn't. It happened, so it isn't.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
I I color with my color pencils, and I choose
the light, you know, the color, you know all of that,
and it makes you now think when you're out driving around,
look what a color or God was how he just
fun that? How fun that had to be to create
like that? And he just beauty sunsets man every day.
(26:09):
And he's so creative. He just keeps painting new every day.
He starts over every day. He doesn't need to to
just he just creates it and then he keeps on going.
And I think as a creative that has been some
of the most amazing things to see God as the
master artist and to start painting with God for his
purposes and then not just to you know, to serve
your world painting with God, it's been pretty special. And
(26:29):
in how sunrises or sun rises or crisp and sunsets or.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Muniform and yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
The difference in that totally as well.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Well.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Congratulations on there we got the winners are we Vegas
Arenal who I don't know, Uh, congratulations all right, enjoy
the shirt as well. Who won who did you win
it for her? She won it? She beat you? Man?
All right, well congratulations, Hey did you try it yet?
Speaker 2 (26:59):
I know, but I'm gonna have to do it.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Yeah, let the mic down, take off the headphones, because
I want you to come back and talk about your
twin brother here.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Yeah, he's pretty something special.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
All right, Here goes John sha Bagley in on the
corn dog hole, from the sports station, inside fashion Fair,
the Tribor Nation, all over the place store. Okay, one
out of two, one more, one out of two. Choke.
That was a choke. That was let's don't take a
picture of that. It would have no sunshine of God
(27:29):
behind what you just did.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Right, that's right. We all have many weaknesses.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
That was darkness. Your brother got the sports gene, though,
didn't he? This is true, man, he sing though he
actually can't sing. We actually used to sing the national
anthem for our basketball games. When did you play ball at? Oh?
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Yeah, brother, I played all hoops all through high school.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
Like but he you know, he was the d one
athlete with the chisel at eight pack, and I was
a fat kid who could sing.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Hi, Trevor, That's basically how it were.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Well, you don't play basketball. If you're the fat kid,
you could maybe be a pulling guard or something.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
But so it was that.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Thankfully when I got into hoops to kind of reset
my metabolism and that helped out pretty good. But God
made sure I had I was living in the shadow
for a while. He was the last white.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Armenian dude left in the track heath. If you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Everybody else with brothers, but you know, and but my
twin was super fast and he would wake up buffer
and I was always like, that's not fair.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
You didn't even do anything.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
So but he's always that like you were right along
with him, same grade, same age, shame everything. Did they
dress you the same when you were little? Early on?
Speaker 2 (28:29):
We definitely had that, you know.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
As the story goes, my parents they couldn't have kids,
and then actually prayed the loan of child of God
and gave birth.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
To my twin brother.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Then the doctor said get ready for exhibition, being pushed again,
and she's.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Like what, and out I came.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
They didn't know a better, They.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Didn't even know, so I was eight minutes behind my twin.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
But did they know beck? I don't remember that. There
was no ultra shoun I don't.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
I think I.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Don't really know what you were reborn well seventy nine,
so so yeah, so it was they thought, she's like,
I just have a big baby. He was, she had too,
So having a twin is really special. We're each other's
cheer in corner. And you know, he's amazing, so proud
of him, and you know vice versa.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
What was that like she didn't go through high school?
And did he get other college offers or was she? Yeah,
pulled in a couple of different directions. And same thing
even after college was he had some offers to some
professional combines and stuff.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
He did great.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
You know, he was always just an exceptional athlete and
and so it was great. You know, I studied music
and he studied like eighty things and you know, I
mean he's like super smart too. So we had the
major in English, double minor and business and linguistics while
being a.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Presence day and then and then goes to law school.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Right, so well we've been talking about recently with the name,
image and likeness and how tough it is for student athletes.
Your your brother, smart guy.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
He's now what now but now he's a deputy district
attorney up and San Jose.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
So he had to study, he had to work out,
he had to go to practice, he had games, he
had at all that. What's your thoughts on name, image
and likeness in paying college athletes now some money to.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Yeah, I'm honestly, I'm a little worried it's diluting the
purity of it all. I mean, I'm all for people
getting affirm for what they do, but I think we
already have such an emphasis. I think there's a beautiful
purity about self sacrifice, supporting your team. And I'm a
little worried about money making everything upside down.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
But that's me and I am so quite the opposite. Okay,
you're an eighteen nineteen twenty twenty one, twenty two year
old with phenomenal talent, and your talent is packing in
one hundred thousand people in a stadium. Well, we pay
eighteen nineteen twenty twenty one year old singers that are
packing stadiums, don't we look at the talent? Your brother has,
the talent you have, See, That's how I look at it. Yeah, Now,
(30:47):
I Kenny wig Ands farmer Bulldog and went on to
the NFL. He was talking about like in the NFL
to get pay for play, you make a great play,
you play a certain amount of time, you get above
your minimum or whatever your salary. It's because you played
extra out there working. So I could see if you do.
You know, you used to get stickers on your football helmets,
were doing a great play' turn that into well you
(31:11):
saw how what it was like. I mean, it had
to be hard for your brother to keep like pocket
change going. I don't know what his personal life was
like for these college athletes. David Tongyapop was in here
talking about it one time. Yeah, or was it Kenny
Wigans said they had like thirteen dollars And that.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Sounds about right. It sounds like starving artists. We know
all about it, man.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Yeah, well, what's he you said?
Speaker 3 (31:30):
He's deputy district District attorney level four, so he's legit.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Man, he's taking down the bad guys. I'm so proud
of him.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
And and then now my niece and nephews are coming
up as the next gen athletes, so it's pretty fun
to watch.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Now you help a lot of people in the valley
that want to become singers. It's almost like a singing
boot camp. Kind of thing that you have going on,
John Shabagli, and tell folks how they can get a
hold of you if they want to get involved with
what you do. Yeause, you're a boot camp. You're a
drill sergeant too, right, you don't you don't put up
with if you're not in for the game. Right to
(32:04):
waste my time?
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Right right?
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Well we got to raise up Sofi, you've seen your
music video. I appreciate It'll sit out in the forest
and play a piano and be gentle. Totally.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
People matter, man, people matter, we say, uh uh, training
musicians from the inside out.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
So it's called Psalmist Mission.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
So Psalm a psalmist a Mission dot org or John
at Salmist Mission dot or you can send me, send
us an email or info. It's almost mission and just
training at the future. So now we're on year seven.
They are about one hundred and twenty twenty of them littered
all over the Central Valley graduates and now other states. Uh,
leading worship more churches than I can keep track of,
doing community events, serving in community outreaches and every color
(32:43):
you know, Korean, Latino, Dominican, Haitian, Ukrainian, See, Tennesseean and
it's been special to feel like you're hanging out with
a giant bag of skittles.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
And you know, and usually it's our diversity that keeps
us separate. I think God made us different on purpose
and that what makes it beautiful. And if you can
and music, it seems to bring us all together into
a specials.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
I'm sure you're going to say yes to this question,
but that's gonna Have you ever had students that come
in and have taught you something?
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Oh? All the time?
Speaker 3 (33:11):
In fact, one of the special things about inviting the
future is you know that that God is sending special
ones and they help color the whole work, and so
it keeps growing when you're raising up others and every
special person that dissembles because we don't just focus on
their skill. We focus on skill, but we also focus
in on their heart. So they're already thinking how do
(33:32):
I honor God with my gift and serve my world?
Not just get unbelievable, you know, and that they keep
coloring the work one one group at a time, one
individual at a time, and so it's honestly growing out
of control. So if you feel like music and mentorship
is something that the Valley should continue to have. These
are actually some critical months for us with Selma's mission.
Would love you to think about supporting it and so
(33:53):
we can help pouring into the future. We wanted to
make it really economical, so we didn't just pour into
the call or the privilege. We poured into those people
of gifting and a calling, and so we've been able
to pour into a lot of minorities and like diversity
and stuff. But love you to consider that if we
keep trying to keep raising up the future.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
Final question, yes, uh, do you have anybody that can
sing real good and gets a lot of applause on
stage and you have to in your training and kind
of deflate their head as it's growing.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Wonderful question?
Speaker 1 (34:21):
So, and what was yours like singing at the Vatican?
Did you have to deflate your own? Well, you always
got to keep it in check.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
And I think, honestly that's why God has made the
road incredibly costly, because he's got a He's got to
lovingly pummel you on the inside and so you realize
you're not that cute kid. And so we train in
nine pillars. One of our pillars is actually called uh
identity loved but not impressive. So we tell all these
gifted musicians, God doesn't need any more peacocks. You're just uh,
(34:47):
but he gave you peacock feathers that brings him on
or and so your colors are beautiful.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
But you're gonna give you your value. If you got
a young Bobby Brown up there, you'll let him go.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Right, we got it. Well, of course it's actually it's
not about squashing. It's actually about augment.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Yeah yeah, right, well you got a launch it. You
have it, you have that, you have the it thing.
I noticed it right originally.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Right, well, Trevor Carrey, we gotta do what we gotta do.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
John shabaglian Man, thank you for dropping by the sports
station inside Fashion Fair mall. And uh in closing right here,
I want you to give out that that side again.
Make sure everybody that might have heard it and go
what was it again? Awesome, he convinced me after I
listened to it. And now I'm gonna write it down.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
When you're kind so like psalms in the Bible, P
S A L M I S T. Psalmist Mission M
I S S I O n dot Org Music Mission,
nonprofit trying to train up the future in the Central Valley,
and now after seven years it's actually becoming a model
in many other regions and.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
And so around the world. So it's a pretty special
valley story.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
I'm a bulldog music major, like my twin played athletes,
and now we're trying to pour up in the futures.
Would love you to think about supporting us as we
keep pulling in the future. You're so watch games and
listening when you can. Oh yeah, oh yeah, he's I
mean he's and he's amazing, and we cheer each other.
I remember being in the stands when he was crushing it,
and he's been in my concerts. And that's how we
walk as twins.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
You know. John Shabaglin, God blesus. Thanks for stopping him.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
May the best, Trevor, thanks so much.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Man. Hey, we're here at the Sports Station, their new location.
They moved in the mall. They're right next to the
women's Macy's. You can park out front, come through the
food court, hang a right, or you can park in
the back lot. That's the south lot. I guess there, yes,
And you can come to women's Macy's and hang a
right and we're right inside.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Here come, It's to.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Trevor Nation all Over the Place tour Sports Station inside
Fashion Fair. We're at the Sports station new location, right
next to the women's Macy's. It's the all over the
Place Tourist.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
The first week.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
We're doing this and every Friday, if you joined us,
in the three o'clock hour ck On Sports from Fox
Sports thirteen forty, we did our first simulcast of our
two iHeart radio stations. And speaking of iHeartRadio stations, that's
where you can hear the game tomorrow as the Dogs
take on the Kansas Jayhawks and Lawrence warm up, C
(37:01):
K and the crew at one thirty, and then we'll
have the pregame. I can't believe we're back to saying this, man,
it's that time of the year. Paul Leffler coach Hill
camorl at two thirty. Then the kickoff live from Lawrence,
Kansas at three point thirty on the show. Do we
still have more tickets? Do we have any more football? Well, okay,
in the five o'clock hour, you can come out here
(37:21):
and play corn dog Hole. We'll have that four o'clock.
You know I'm gonna give you time getting off work
we'll do it right at five thirty, we'll do the
corn dog. We'll see how many people are in line
for this. We might have to make it two out
of three, possibly one out of three, I tell you.
And there's not as many corn dog holers that are
hitting that hole like I thought there would be. I
(37:41):
only hit one, didn't I And that was over my
head backwards. So I stopped after that. When you do
a shot like that and you hit it, you quit.
You don't try and do it again. Just like the
first time I was out doing a show at the fair,
I did my first horse horse racing bet and I
bet twenty and I won sixty bucks. It was odds
one and three there, and I should have quit this
(38:02):
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