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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Getting ready big homecoming game tomorrow, of course where black
it is the blackout for Usno State five and two
to two and one in the Mountain West can be
taken on that team from the South. I go by
the name the Aztecs five and one, two and oh
in Mountain West. So these next two weeks are going
to be very crucial for the dogs here. This is
a make it or break it. Coach Ins has decided Yep,
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he's gonna stick with quarterback E. J. Warner. He's got
some good stats and he's got some that in the
interception fumble arena that had some people clamoring for bring
in the back up coach Ince. He knows leadership, he's coached,
he knows he knows how to get a vibe of
a team. So this is where we leave it up
to the expertise and the wisdom of people that do
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it all the time. We sit back on our armchairs
or in the stands, and it's it's so easy to say,
but that's what makes sports fun. That's part of it.
That's our job as fans, right to be that much
in passion that you have an opinion about it as well,
like to welcome out here with us love do on
the show out in the nature of California, and I
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feel like I left home. I did. I came to
another county by only driving a few miles. But Derrick
County Supervisor Jordan walm Off I said it correctly, didn't I?
You were one of the few. Finally, finally I said
it correctly. All right, how long you been a supervisor
up here in this county to the.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
North, Yes, the county Dinorth. I got elected in twenty
twenty two and started serving in January of twenty three,
and I've been at it ever since and loving it.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Now do you ever have aspirations earlier in your life
to get into politics.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
I would have never thought I was ever going to
get into politics.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
What was that deciding factor? Because I always applaud people
that I mean, we can, just like we complain about football,
people complain about politics. I always applaud people, even if
I don't agree with everything that they have to say
that get off the couch and say, I'm going to
go try and be the person that can change it
by making different laws.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Well, I've been in law enforcement for about fifteen years,
and so that's my career. By trade, and I've learned
a lot in that realm. And part of that I
served as the vice president of the Fresnoe Police Officers Association,
and there you start to get involved in politics a
little bit. You intermingle with city council mayor different races,
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things like that, and being able to be around that
and seeing the effect that good leaders have and seeing
the effect that bad leaders have. And when this opportunity
came up for my hometown, Madera, Madera County, No.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Not born and raised.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
I was actually raised in Reedley, and so I graduated
from Ridley High and two thousand and four, and shortly
after graduating high school, I moved up to Fresnoe and
just a couple of years after that, I moved to
Bnera County bought my first house right here in Madera
County District One.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Well, this county is growing. I said a few times
on the show that I as a kid, I used
to ask questions and wonder why aren't there new towns
being built? I you know, my sister and mom would
love little house in the prairie, And I go, why
aren't we doing that now? Why that's what they're doing
up here. It started out a little houses on the
prairie and now it's grown and grown and grown.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
It's pretty amazing to see that. And we're in your
district right now. You are currently in my district. Butcher
Boss is a great spot right in district one on
Business forty one, just south of river Stone, just north
of Valley.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
So that's what this is called Business forty one beside street. Yeah,
the access road, it's called business Business forty one. I
need that Madeira County jargon.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Yeah, you're you'll you'll get there no time, you'll be
spending more time.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
I can feel it, well, I don't. It's so amazing
how even the topography seems to kind of look different
as you move north, doesn't it.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
It's absolutely true. Actually, this residential neighborhood just behind us
here to.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
The west, and what's that called.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
It's called Rolling Hills Rolling Hill, So as the name implies,
a little bit, further north you go, you get more
of that rolling hills topography. We have a great view
of this here at mountains. It's really beautiful up here
when we can see them when they grow back, when
they grow back, when you can see them, they're great, Yes.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
And the town up to the right here tiers or
what's it called so of Vieho. Yes? Is it pretty
soon people will be able to put their add just
to sorow vi Ao slash California with a zip code.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Funny thing is you can actually do that today. You
can actually put.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
River newtown's been built. I can say a new town.
I've seen newtown built.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Not technically, however, they will still deliver mail if you
put the zip code correctly, you will get mail delivered
to your home if you or Vieho. They are not
They are not incorporated cities, and we don't see that
happening in the foreseeable future. If the residents.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
They're deciding see er fire, police, all all that that
goes along with the city.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Right there's a lot that goes onto it or that
goes into it. Right now, everything is so intermingled with
community service areas at separate water districts. It's really difficult
to go after the Act and incorporate a city that
is so intermingled with all these different municipal services.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
But if you ever thought of one that's happened in
your lifetime, do you remember one that's done.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
That well, he actually toured the latest city to be
incorporated in California just about a year ago, Mountain House.
It's over by Tracy and it was a master planned city,
and so we went and toured it just to take
a look at what they have.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
You're the guy to talk to about this, obviously, I've
had this question my whole life, and now you're explaining
how a city came to be.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Right, And they they went into the planning and how
it worked, and they planned to do it. They planned
to incorporate and out here it wasn't necessarily planned to incorporate.
So they integrated a lot of their services, their schools,
their parks, their city services. Everything was planned in order
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to be able to afford all of the amenities that
a city has. They also have some private security in
lieu of police officers and Mountain House they really have
a different.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Unique So a planned community would start really underneath the
ground with everything that it would need to provide a city. Right,
you kind of build up, correct, with all the services
that would be needed put out here in Teresa, Via. Okay,
first of all, the easier name, but.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
TV is what we call it the jargon up here.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
TV that's right. Take Okay, so TV over there. Uh
they got a fire department, now, don't they? Is there
a fire department.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
We have a fire station out there and it's actually expanding.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
And doctors and dentists and things like that.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
That's right. We have a camera and a health clinic
up there.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Churches church, well.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
They they do use the school there as a church.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Okay, so somebody's doing elementary. No building's been built yet,
but that's that's how towns get started, right.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
And they have the town center there with the hub.
They have access coffee shop where you can get some
great food, great coffee.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Have you have you found out, supervisor that my Derek
County much more open to business. Have you had any businesses,
because it seems like Frosten o Kinty a lot of
times you hear a lot of complaints that it's more
difficult for building and whatnot. And by businesses I mean
brick and mortar and also developers that want to do
these sprawling home subdivisions.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Well, we are very business friendly and we consistently hear
that from people that want to invest in our community.
They love our planning department, they love that we're small
enough that you can talk to the person in charge
and get answers immediately, and we're big enough to be
able to move those projects forward as well. And we
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do hold our developers accountable as well. We want to
make sure that they're providing the necessary infrastructure to meet
the needs of their development, so that isn't resting on
the hands of the taxpayers, so that developers are paying
their own way when it comes to infrastructure. But they
understand that, We understand that, and it's been a it's
been it's been good in that aspect. It's not that
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that has always been the case, because there are some
complaints that you know, we started building too fast without
the infrastructure in place, and you know, that has really
been a focus since I've been in office, making sure
that any future development that does occur, making sure that
the developers are putting the necessary infrastructure, roads, water, sewer,
all of that stuff in prior to them opening.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
My guest is Madera County Supervisor Jordan Wamhoff walm Off Supervisor.
I've gotten to know supervisor now Gary Breidefeld and Nathan
Magzig and a little bit how it works there. It's
three three Republicans, two Democrats. What's your board like, how
do you guys work together as well? Because I know
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AG is a big deal to supervisors up here as well.
But what's the dynamic on the boardlike.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
So the dynamic is we have four Republicans and one Democrat. However,
you know our board is still very non partisan ninety
nine points something percon And of all the issues that come.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Before possible in life these days.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
It it isn't you.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Mean that You mean that when you say that, it
really is.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
No, it really is because a lot of the issues
that come before our board, to any any county board,
it's implementing state programs. It's roads, it's water, it's uh,
it's infrastructure, it's all the things.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
That aren't you or free. You don't have free needle
exchange conversations and things like that. So it's a little
easier to stay with some basic issues.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Well, I will say that Mederic County has a long history,
and so I think that some things are implied. So
when people even have the notion that they want to
do a needle exchange, they do realize that they're still
in Maderic County.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Is that why you smiled right when I asked that
you got a grin on your face, like it's a
little different a few miles north.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
I guess it is a little different up here, and
we're proud of that. Some things are just implied. We
are still a very conservative county and whether even if
you're a Democrat, we have we have middle of the
road democrat, many middle of the road Democrats. We have
a lot a lot of Democrats that obtain their CCW
out here. You know, people still, you know, like their guns,
they like their freedom. Republican or Democrat. We see a
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lot of common sense out here. We really I think
we call that blue dog there there are there are
quite a few blue.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Dogs out here. I had a city council member, Mike
CARBOSSI tell me he's a blue dog Democrat. And I'll
never forget when I found out. I don't know how
old I was as an adult, but when I found
out my dad's older brother, my uncle Bill, they said
he went I think he dart passed, but they said, yeah,
he he was a Democrat. And I was my head,
what we had a Democrat? And that's when I learned
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that in Tennessee a lot of blue dog Democrats were
very quote kind of conservative.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
It's true. And I know Mike Carbossi very well. He's
a he's a great friend of mine, and uh, you know,
we align on a lot of things. Some things we don't,
but uh, you know, common sense really prevails, especially on
the local level. Once you get up to the state
or the federal stuff, you know, you you toe the
party line. But on a local level you don't have
to do that. I like our Bossy as a as
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a person. He's just he's a genuine individual, he really is.
And I tell him if he lived in Fort Worth,
he'd be a Republican. We'll see about that.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
I used to feel the same thing about Search sal
Quintero as well. I was like when we ended that
interview once we were having a good time life and
off the air, and I go, come on, just why
are you a Republican? Come on? He goes, Oh. So
many people tell me that. It's almost like Senator John fetterman,
come on over man. Yep.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Sal is a is a great guy and a great
example of another blue dog. And I think I think
sal has more Republican friends than he does Democrats.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Well, I gotta say he was one of the sharpest
dressmen in politics. Always looks sharp, always dressed, always had
a tie. Yeah, he's looking good, looking good, Well, supervisor,
I want to come back. Madera County here has now
become a Second Amendment sanctuary county. I guess that is
a tadbet conservative. We'll come back. We'll talk about that.
It's a Trevor Nation Fresno State Friday homecoming all over
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the place where we're live at a butcher boss when
eleven fifty six Highway forty one, just north of Valley
Children's Hospital here and Madera been a supervisor in this
growing county for now three years correct, three years, that's right,
three years and enjoying it. What made you guys get
into the California groove of becoming sanctuary this or sanctuary
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that you guys decided to be a Second Amendment sanctuary county.
Did you first explained that? Then I'll ask you if
you got pushback on that?
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Well, really it was about the governor recently signing into
law several anti gun bills that really just target law
abiding citizens and make it harder for people to obtain guns,
obtain gun parts, adds more regulation to gun stores, so
they ultimately just want to close up shop, and it's
death by a thousand cuts is really what it is.
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So with the governor taking these actions, we as a
county and I authored a resolution to declare Madera County
a sanctuary, a Second Amendment sanctuary county, and it's mostly symbolic,
but what it does is is it lets our residents
know that we hear them and we care about them.
We also care about our constitution, and the resolution essentially
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says that we are reaffirming our values and our and
what we believe in when it comes to the Second Amendment,
making sure that the CCW applications that people submit here
in Maderic County they're gonna be done expeditiously. We also
offer a free CCW training class for eligible county residents,
and so that resolution solidified those things.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
What makes it eligible For those that might not go
with CCW, They might go, well, this happened to me
before something. I know you're not a sheriff or police
chief here, but I guess it's crimes we will think
if there are. And you've got to be honest as well.
If they catch you fib in anything and find out
later you're pretty much I.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Don't know exactly what the criteria is, but I know
that our shaff, we have one of the best shaff.
So there's fifty eight counties. Sheriff Tyson Pogue is one
of the best. Is he's an amazing sheriff and he
really supports CCW, supports a second Amendment as well, and
he has done a fantastic job here in Madera County.
If you apply for a CCW, you will get an
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appointment that same week right now, which is unheard of
anywhere in the state. I mean, we are really pushing
these things through. We're cutting red tape where essentially, you know,
cutting out all the hoops that people normally have.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Well, of course you don't know all the rules. You
were in law enforcement most of your dot life. Well,
I never had to.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
I did apply for one actually when I was twenty one,
getting in law enforcement here in Madera County, and it
was a great experience.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Do you remember, I like to ask law enfortunate this
the first time you were out by yourself, there's no
trainer with you, You're by yourself on the streets. Do
you remember your first walk up to a car or
arrest or? That first was it at night time. It
was a rookie.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
I remember the call.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Everybody, everybody I've asked, does I want to hear this
to so?
Speaker 2 (15:00):
I when you get released, you get released to nights.
That's what happens when you're when you no longer have
a field training officer, you're you're you're out on nights.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
And uh.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
I remember hitting in service on on the on the
screen for the very first time. I'm ready, I'm ready,
I'm available for calls right and the dispatcher sends me
a message on the computer and says, I'm so sorry
and sends me to a call at Community Regional Medical
Center for a sexual assault. And for those who are
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in law enforcement, you know, these are very, very detailed
reports that you have to do. So my very first
call was a sexual assault at the hospital where I
had to conduct an interview in the hospital. And there's
lots of protocols you have to do. But I remember
that right out of the gate. So you got extremely
long report.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
You got to realize the the emotional aspect dead officers got.
You know, you're running down an alley and your gunfire's going.
That's different than sitting in a in air condition room
talking to a young woman about what has happened to her.
You know that, right, and that stuff you think about
when you go home at night.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Yeah, and you know they have to you know, part
of the investigation is they they perform very sensitive tests
on on on these women, the sexual assault kit and
a nurse performs that test where they're taking swabs of
sensitive areas, and you know, they have an advocate in
the room as well, and it's it's it's a horrendous
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crime and a lot of a lot of the times
these crimes happened to prostitutes as well, and and that's
what it was in this case. And she openly admitted that,
you know that she was a prostitute and went in
and told her story. She was very honest and very believable.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Wow. I would think one of the hardest things would
be domestic disputes that where you can't take the nothing
bad has happened to the point where you can you
can't take the kids out of the house, but you
see so many conditions that children live in. I think
that would be one of the hardest being in law
enforcement and you know nothing you can do about it.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Then you know, well, you can apply the law and
that's what you can do. But yeah, there are some
some absolutely heartbreaking stories.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
That living in filth.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
You know, ev you see cockroaches on the walls, you
see kids with head lies. You can tell they haven't
washed their clothes in weeks. It's there are some really
really sad stories out there, especially in our own community, right,
I mean in Fresnom. I've been to new brisk calls
like that.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Yeah, well, thanks to everybody out there that has that
badge and that gun and that that does that. My
granddaddy was chief of police of himself. There was a
night watch man rather for Tennessee. I had the black
and white picture. It looks like Andy Griffith the cherry
ball on the police car and he's in his uniform
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next to the coke machine in front of the filling
station with his cigarette and his legs crossed.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
So it was one of those one horse towns where
he was.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
They if he was the guy.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Someone had a problem, they called the chief and he
went out and handled it.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
There it was. My dad said. They were working on
the front porch once then my dad was sixteen and
my granddad was behind him. He said, George, watch that
hammer when you come back because they're doing a plank
and he didn't any He had hit his dad, my
granddad in the head, knocked him out. So my dad
they put him in the police car. My dad sixteen,
turns on the siren lide and were takes off and
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takes him to.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
The hospital any way necessary.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I don't think you'd see that today, though, would you. Oh? Yeah,
I mean, I guess a sixteen year old cock Mike
could do that. I guess.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Well, the second amend thing, I just want to go
back to that for a minute, because when you were
talking about it, you said it doesn't change any laws
or create new ones here in Madeira County. But it's
it's like when a Freso City council put in God
we trust on the dais. It's like it's a statement
it doesn't change any laws and then make anybody have
to go to church. But it was a statement that
they made, so I guess it's in that same arena,
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right it is.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
It's it's in the same arena. And you know, I
have received some criticism regarding you know, why didn't I
be more active when it comes to signing letters of
opposition regarding particular gun bills to send up to Sacramento. Yes,
we could have done that as well. However, we live
in a super majority in California where yeah, if we
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signed a letter of opposition to a particular gun bill,
it would have went up. They would have crumpled it,
thrown it right in the trash. At least now with this,
you know, we got some coverage on it.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
We made a statement.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
We had a huge community.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
And so although it may not change any laws in Sacramento,
you know this, Some of these stories got published in
the Sacramento b and and different areas all over and
I received phone calls from supervisors in six different counties
asking me about this resolution. So, although it doesn't change
any particular law, it got the attention of people, and
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it lets people know that that there are still counties
in California that care about the Constitution, care about the
Second Amendment.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Yeah, and these attacks at newsom issuing all these laws
he's putting it through to make it way harder in
tax and you can only buy this and that so
many a month, and all that it is just all
for show because the Supreme Court of the United States
shuts them down any time they go to court, they
get shut down. They lose every time in court, Newsom
does so it's just stage play.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Well some of it is stage play, but some of
it sticks. I mean, there are things who have an
eleven percent excise tax on guns and some gun parts
they added to the sensitive area list. If you have
a CCW that you can no longer go.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
To and the Supreme Court just say that you can
carry wherever that they can't do that, and then they
fought back.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
I'm just saying there are some things that they win.
There are some things that California still pushes through.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Yeah. Yeah, and with a concealed carry, they still have
it where you can have oh got it, put it away,
Oh got it. If you drive around town, go to
three or four different places, you might be in an
area where California says, oh, you can't have it, Yeah
you need.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
A PhD to and they're in a secure lock box
in your car, just to make sure. I mean, all
they're trying to do is make it so difficult that
you don't do it. That's really what it is. It
just targets law abiding citizens because in reality, the people.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
They play the game play the game, go ahead. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
In reality, the people that are committing crimes and shooting
each other, they're not following into these gun lawns.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
About this stuff. They do.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Well, okay, you're right, But it's all this does is
make it harder for people who are playing by the
rules to exercise their constitutional rights. That's all this is.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
And I'll tell you what if you grabbed a room
full of Democrats and you said to them, though, even
the ones that are like against gun law, you know
they're against the Second Amendment, really, and you said to them,
if you were at a festival and some guy came
out with an ak and started firing like crazy, you
would want eight ten responsible people that are trained in
that crowd that audience to return fire, wouldn't you, so
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that you don't get killed. I would hope that ninety
nine percent, if they were telling the truth, they'd be like, yes,
I want to live.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Well, yeah, I mean it does come down to training,
because if you carry a firearm, thank y'all, you need
to be responsible for every bullet in that gun and
you and part of that responsibility means you train regularly
and you are put in and you are training in
decision making as well. Because there are so many different factors.
You know, if if someone is you know, has a
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has a AK and they're spraying, yeah, you want people
there to be able to neutralize that threat as quickly
as possible. But even for police officers, I mean, you
hear stories of police officers and sheriff's deputies all throughout
the country who still make really bad choices and decisions
and uh it's and they're well trained, and it doesn't
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mean that they did it with intent. But you know,
humans are humans, and humans still make mistakes, and so
I just want if I just want those who are
who are going to take that get the CCW and
carry gun. Make sure you're proficient with it because people
rely on you to be proficient with it as well.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
If I recall, I don't know if it's FBI stats,
but I saw something at some point. Hey, if you
read it on the internet, it's true. I read it
on the internet, so must But they were talking about
the safety record of CCW holders. With off duty police
officers and CCW holders, we had a better safety record.
I think that off duty police officers did guns. I
don't know that stat I'll look that up. I'll get
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that to you, Well, what I do know.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
I mean I've worked with I mean, there's hundreds of
officers at the president Police Apartment.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Now, they're way more better trained. I know that.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
And you know, some of the best guys that I've
ever worked with and some of the most well trained,
and they take their job very, very seriously.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
And and the thing about it is that's not talked
about anytime you hear, oh an officer involved shooting, he's
off duty with pay while it's being reviewed. The few
seconds that you have when I thought of that, at
the bus stop down on Blackstone, they had that bodycamp
Presno PD pulled up middle of the day. It was
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the call of a transient lady causing a scene, and
she pulled that knife out and got that other individual
by the neck, and that officer was a few feet away,
and he took the shot and took him out. And
I mean, you just don't know when you're pulling up
when that gun's gonna have to come out, and the
split second decision making.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Not only that, and those that have seen that video
for that officer to take that shot, he had confidence
in himself and he had confidence in his shooting because
when you are when your target is a foot away
from another human being head, you have confidence and his
radio traffic, his voice was calm. You could tell that
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that officer has trained and he's done a great job.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
I think, do I remember him saying down? He was
trying to get the victim to go down, but they
you know, in the chaos, then he just took the shot.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Well, I don't recall the specifics of it, but yeah,
you would ideally you would want the person to drop down.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
But man, if I was if a knife was to
my neck, I'd be like, take that shot. Yes, indeed, Well,
thank you man for coming out. Is anything you want
to say to this upsetter by in Fresnee, anything you
want to say to Fresnel business about Madera County and
the opportunities.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
I will say that Madera County is open for business
and any person who's willing to invest in our community
you will see the difference when you come up to
Madera County. You will see how easy we are to
do business with. And this is our area is grown.
We have Riverstone, we have to throw a viejo, and
we have other areas that are around Valley Children's Hospital,
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which are growing as well. Those that choose to do
business in Madera County. You will notice a difference when
you're going through the planning process or the building process
and how easy it is to do business up here.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Madera County Supervisor Jordan Wama, thank you, sir. I appreciate
you for coming out here. And I know you've already
enjoyed this burst get and tried to appear in your
neck of the woods. But what a what a spot
out here? If you wanted to say, what business do
they need? Like an ice cream store up here? A
dessert store? Because this is like, this is the only
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barbecue joint. I would think up here for miles, right.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
I think this is the only barbecue place.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
All right? If I said I got five million dollars,
let's come up with something. What would you build? What's
needed here for the people? Do you think?
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Well, there are plans and with Dan Riley to have
a Riley's Brewery right actually just to the north of
Butcher Boss right here, and I've seen some of the
preliminary plans. It's beautiful, about a four and a half
million dollar building. It's just a full blown brewery, indoor outdoor,
open space. You have food trucks all that type of.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Stuff, so that's coming. Is there a dessert joint like
a cake, ice cream, meeed kind of place.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
We just opened Menscheese a few months ago. Mensche's Frozen
Yogurt just opened in the Riverstone Riverwalk shopping center right here,
and that was a fan favorite. Just in time for summer.
Those kids are to go in there in.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Same movie theater, but nobody we stay at home now
watch movies. You know, wh's the latch time you've been
to a movie, it's.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Well, I have three kids, so I did go fairly recently,
but I will say I have gone so much less,
and I think the movies are just terrible now. Yes,
I think everyone is just opted for Netflix and you know,
smaller budget.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Films and Netflix. If you don't like it, you can
start watching it in three minutes and you don't really
you know what it costs, just something you don't feel
like it's a movie price. And it's like, eh, I've just.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Been so disappointed with the blockbusters that have come out
in theaters. That's really it. And I think I don't
know the stats, but it just seems like people aren't
investing in those big, huge budget movies anymore.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Yeah, and you can tell the quality difference. You watch
a Will Smith movie from two thousand and one, a
Denaro movie from ninety eight or something. It's just the
quality involved in it. It looked, it even looks different than now.
Well just this, the plot lines and everything, the sets.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
You know, you can tell they put money into those
those movies. And you watch a Netflix movie, just it
feels like it's the same set or set in the
woods something free.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Well, you think about it. We used to have, let's
just say, one hundred great movies a year came out
of Hollywood. But now think of all these networks in
all the time they have to fill up. So why
wouldn't it get a little cheaper looking? It's bound to, right.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
I know it's the economics, but it is disappointing for
someone who grew up love going to the movies and
anticipating these big, huge blockbusters that come out. Hey, we
just don't.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
See them anymore. All right, it's Ciskel and Ebert. We're
live at the Butcher Boss here. You're too young. You
don't even know who Cisco and Ebert were?
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Do you two thumbs up?
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Come on. Okay, you do all right? Yeah, indeed, Hey,
thank you, supervisor, appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Hey, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
You've got your Trevor Nation Freshel State Homecoming Friday all
over the Place tour. We got a few more minutes.
They're open till six if you're coming up. Forty one
live at the Butcher Boss one eleven fifty six, forty one,
just north of Valley Children's Hospital here in Madre. Twelve
thirty is a kickoff, going to be a day game.
Our broadcast starts at ten thirty. We'll be down there
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at Old Dog Boulevard. Of course, you can c kob
down there, and you can get your blackout gear as well,
so it's gonna be a blackout game. That means you're
supposed to be wearing black attire. You can buy it
out there, or you can get it wherever you might
want to get out there and get it. And this
was a great story. I know, the world series maybe
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it's already started, it's probably already started the Dodgers in Toronto,
but there is a local connection to this that I
found very cool. Meant to bring this up with Paul Weffler.
I bet he even knew about it, but one Fresno
boy's gonna be at the World Series kmph dot com,
said Devin D. Barrera. Devin D. Now the D means something.
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Hang on. He's ten years old. He has an al
expaded trip to Toronto. He's going to be in the pitch,
Hit and Run, and he's going to fly out tomorrow
for the first game up in Toronto. But there's a
story behind Devin D's unique name. His father, Jabviera, said
he decided he wanted to call his son Dodger, and
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his wife said, calling Dodger that sounds like a dog's name,
so she said she wanted to name him Devon. So
she used the D from Dodger and said he's gonna
be Devon, and the dad said, let's do a hyphen
for Dodgers, So it's Devin D. I like that, Devin D.
Hey Devin D. Yeah, you got any time you name
a kid, you gotta act like you're yelling and out
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at the park for him to come to you. Hey,
Devin D, come on, we gotta go. He was born
into a Dodger's onesie, they said, and he's loved the
Dodgers ever since. So imagine this guy. He goes to
Baard Middle School in Fresno. He is on a travel
team called the Sun Devils. But imagine being ten years
old getting to go to a World Series game like
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that and it's the Dodgers that are playing, and it's
your favorite team. I guess the only thing to be
better would be if it was at Dodger Stadium. But
I mean getting to I'm sure he's been there probably,
but all expense pay trip to Toronto. Pitch hit and run.
He must be pretty pretty good. They said he's been
playing ball since he was six years old and he's
even created his own tutorial video to teach other kids
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how to play. So I don't know if they show
it during the pregame, maybe they would. Major League Baseball
probably show that pitch hit and ryn. I didn't even
know they were still doing it. I remember as a
kid what punt pass and kick? Yeah with the NFL,
and they'd always had the kids out there representing the
team that the town that they're from, be all in
their NFL uniform out there on the field. So I'm
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sure I wonder if Devin d will have a Dodger
uniform on for it. I'm sure that he would love
to have that, So watch that this weekend on Saturday.
I know my dad's getting all ready for the Dodger game.
Back in Tennessee. They got some friends visiting from Arizona.
So my mom was making the chicken wings and the
and the chili and in all of that, and uh
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so we'll see. I man, I just I wasn't excited
when Joe Carter in the Blue Jays, what would they
beat Atlanta? When a Canadian team won the World Series.
It just didn't seem right with America's pastime. So let's
try and keep this in America here with our pastime.
Thanks to again to Madera County Supervisor Jordan Wamoff stopping
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by talking about the Second Amendment and what makes Madera
County so great. Thanks to a voice of Fresno State
Athletics Paul Leffler for coming by joining us as well.
C K on sports. Of course, he joins me the
first hour of every show we do. And thank you
to Mark Evesian, the owner out here at Butcher Boss.
I have seen this meet out here grilling for three hours.
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I'm gonna look forward to having my sandwich here at
the end, I'm gonna come back and I'm gonna tell
you about this horrible story from Oregon, Portland, Oregon. Just horrendous.
What happened? Could you imagine this? Could you imagine getting
a call from your kids school saying, hello, parent, this
is your kid's school. We're sending out communication about food contamination.
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You're not gonna believe what they contaminated pretzels with at
a school. I think there's way more to this. I
think these parents deserve a clear answer about this because
food contamination. This sounds like food poisoning. I'll tell you that.
We'll wrap her up here. It's a Trevor Nation Fresno
State Friday Home come and getting ready for tomorrow, all
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over the place to it. We're live at the Butcher
Boss one eleven fifty six Highway forty one, just north
of Valley Children's Hospital here in Maderra. This is a
day game as well. Kick off at twelve thirty and
you'll hear it right here on Power Talk AM fourteen hundred,
Fox Sports thirteen forty, all Up and Down the Valley
thirteen sixty, Modesto, and also on the iHeartRadio app. Gonna
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be a big game. Fresno State five and two, two
and one in the Mountain West. The San Diego Aztecs
are five and one and they're two and zero in
the Mountain West. Paul Leffler, voice of Fresno State, CK
on Sports Conversations earlier this afternoon. The most important two
week span of the season coming up here. It'll be
making or break it one more win, go to a
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bowl game. But we want that mount West championships, you know,
to finish out the tenure in the Mountain West for
going to the PAC twelve tomorrow and we're gonna have
a big old tailgating going on tomorrow. Bulldog Boulevard k
kicks it off at ten thirty out their pregame at
eleven thirty and that daytime twelve thirty kickoff. This was
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I would think to kind of be alarming. How you doing, sir? Alarming?
This has happened at a school outside of Portland. They
had pretzels for the students they were served on Monday,
and somebody accidentally put oven cleaner on them. How do
you accidentally put oven cleaner on pretzels? I would say,
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you don't. The message described the incident as a food
contamination accident during which oven cleaner and granul little form
was mistakenly applied to pretzels. So you got a couple
different areas. I would think of the kitchen, you would
have your oven cleaning section down there with your sponges
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and your ajax and your lysol or whatever, and then
you would have the things that you cook with that
you sprinkle on pretzels in a totally different area. So
just saying they said it's unclear how it happened, a
formal inquiry is underway. Well, I would think so that
sounds like poisoning to me, straight up poisoning. Imagine getting
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a voicemail that it happened. They deserve an answer on that.
Did you see the video Coast Guard? You normally don't
think about the Coast Guard whipping out the weapons and
firing away, but they did. This happened at a base
in Alameda. Coast Guard issued these commands to stop this truck.
It was backing up. They told it to stop, and
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it kept on moving. Two men arrived at a local
hospital after the gunfire. I guess they got away. They
warned them and warned them, but they didn't do it.
So they arrived at the hospital. San Jose Mercury News
stated one of them's believed to be the driver of
the U haul. Not a good idea to do so.
I don't know what they had in mind as well,
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but the Coastguard handled that last night. Good to hear.
I still having today's world. I've been out here smelling
barbecue and talking and having a good time. You feel
a little bit out of the loop if you haven't
gone and scoured the news in the last few hours.
But I guess I don't know what's happening in Portland.
If it's going to be a violent weekend. I hope
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it's not gonna be a violent weekend, but we can
pretty much assume until those National Guard get there as well.
President Trump, now saying he's not sending it to San Francisco,
knew some did his whole I'm gonna sue everybody lawsuit.
Press conference, President Trump said he talked to some fine
folks in the Bay area and they assured hear him
that they are headed in the right direction. Mayor Laurie
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and I guess some of Trump's financial friends is well
said give us a shot. Let us try and do it.
I read where Mayor Dyer was up there with the
big city mayors of California, saying that it's one of
the safest streets that he's ever walked on. You know
what I gotta do. We gotta get a hold of
some people that actually just live there. That's it. Assist
the Trevor carry Show on The Valley's Power Talk
Getting ready big homecoming game tomorrow, of course where black
it is the blackout for Usno State five and two
to two and one in the Mountain West can be
taken on that team from the South. I go by
the name the Aztecs five and one, two and oh
in Mountain West. So these next two weeks are going
to be very crucial for the dogs here. This is
a make it or break it. Coach Ins has decided Yep,
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he's gonna stick with quarterback E. J. Warner. He's got
some good stats and he's got some that in the
interception fumble arena that had some people clamoring for bring
in the back up coach Ince. He knows leadership, he's coached,
he knows he knows how to get a vibe of
a team. So this is where we leave it up
to the expertise and the wisdom of people that do
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it all the time. We sit back on our armchairs
or in the stands, and it's it's so easy to say,
but that's what makes sports fun. That's part of it.
That's our job as fans, right to be that much
in passion that you have an opinion about it as well,
like to welcome out here with us love do on
the show out in the nature of California, and I
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feel like I left home. I did. I came to
another county by only driving a few miles. But Derrick
County Supervisor Jordan walm Off I said it correctly, didn't I?
You were one of the few. Finally, finally I said
it correctly. All right, how long you been a supervisor
up here in this county to the.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
North, Yes, the county Dinorth. I got elected in twenty
twenty two and started serving in January of twenty three,
and I've been at it ever since and loving it.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Now do you ever have aspirations earlier in your life
to get into politics.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
I would have never thought I was ever going to
get into politics.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
What was that deciding factor? Because I always applaud people
that I mean, we can, just like we complain about football,
people complain about politics. I always applaud people, even if
I don't agree with everything that they have to say
that get off the couch and say, I'm going to
go try and be the person that can change it
by making different laws.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Well, I've been in law enforcement for about fifteen years,
and so that's my career. By trade, and I've learned
a lot in that realm. And part of that I
served as the vice president of the Fresnoe Police Officers Association,
and there you start to get involved in politics a
little bit. You intermingle with city council mayor different races,
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things like that, and being able to be around that
and seeing the effect that good leaders have and seeing
the effect that bad leaders have. And when this opportunity
came up for my hometown, Madera, Madera County, No.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Not born and raised.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
I was actually raised in Reedley, and so I graduated
from Ridley High and two thousand and four, and shortly
after graduating high school, I moved up to Fresnoe and
just a couple of years after that, I moved to
Bnera County bought my first house right here in Madera
County District One.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Well, this county is growing. I said a few times
on the show that I as a kid, I used
to ask questions and wonder why aren't there new towns
being built? I you know, my sister and mom would
love little house in the prairie, And I go, why
aren't we doing that now? Why that's what they're doing
up here. It started out a little houses on the
prairie and now it's grown and grown and grown.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
It's pretty amazing to see that. And we're in your
district right now. You are currently in my district. Butcher
Boss is a great spot right in district one on
Business forty one, just south of river Stone, just north
of Valley.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
So that's what this is called Business forty one beside street. Yeah,
the access road, it's called business Business forty one. I
need that Madeira County jargon.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Yeah, you're you'll you'll get there no time, you'll be
spending more time.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
I can feel it, well, I don't. It's so amazing
how even the topography seems to kind of look different
as you move north, doesn't it.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
It's absolutely true. Actually, this residential neighborhood just behind us
here to.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
The west, and what's that called.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
It's called Rolling Hills Rolling Hill, So as the name implies,
a little bit, further north you go, you get more
of that rolling hills topography. We have a great view
of this here at mountains. It's really beautiful up here
when we can see them when they grow back, when
they grow back, when you can see them, they're great, Yes.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
And the town up to the right here tiers or
what's it called so of Vieho. Yes? Is it pretty
soon people will be able to put their add just
to sorow vi Ao slash California with a zip code.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Funny thing is you can actually do that today. You
can actually put.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
River newtown's been built. I can say a new town.
I've seen newtown built.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Not technically, however, they will still deliver mail if you
put the zip code correctly, you will get mail delivered
to your home if you or Vieho. They are not
They are not incorporated cities, and we don't see that
happening in the foreseeable future. If the residents.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
They're deciding see er fire, police, all all that that
goes along with the city.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Right there's a lot that goes onto it or that
goes into it. Right now, everything is so intermingled with
community service areas at separate water districts. It's really difficult
to go after the Act and incorporate a city that
is so intermingled with all these different municipal services.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
But if you ever thought of one that's happened in
your lifetime, do you remember one that's done.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
That well, he actually toured the latest city to be
incorporated in California just about a year ago, Mountain House.
It's over by Tracy and it was a master planned city,
and so we went and toured it just to take
a look at what they have.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
You're the guy to talk to about this, obviously, I've
had this question my whole life, and now you're explaining
how a city came to be.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Right, And they they went into the planning and how
it worked, and they planned to do it. They planned
to incorporate and out here it wasn't necessarily planned to incorporate.
So they integrated a lot of their services, their schools,
their parks, their city services. Everything was planned in order
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to be able to afford all of the amenities that
a city has. They also have some private security in
lieu of police officers and Mountain House they really have
a different.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Unique So a planned community would start really underneath the
ground with everything that it would need to provide a city. Right,
you kind of build up, correct, with all the services
that would be needed put out here in Teresa, Via. Okay,
first of all, the easier name, but.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
TV is what we call it the jargon up here.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
TV that's right. Take Okay, so TV over there. Uh
they got a fire department, now, don't they? Is there
a fire department.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
We have a fire station out there and it's actually expanding.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
And doctors and dentists and things like that.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
That's right. We have a camera and a health clinic
up there.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Churches church, well.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
They they do use the school there as a church.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Okay, so somebody's doing elementary. No building's been built yet,
but that's that's how towns get started, right.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
And they have the town center there with the hub.
They have access coffee shop where you can get some
great food, great coffee.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Have you have you found out, supervisor that my Derek
County much more open to business. Have you had any businesses,
because it seems like Frosten o Kinty a lot of
times you hear a lot of complaints that it's more
difficult for building and whatnot. And by businesses I mean
brick and mortar and also developers that want to do
these sprawling home subdivisions.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Well, we are very business friendly and we consistently hear
that from people that want to invest in our community.
They love our planning department, they love that we're small
enough that you can talk to the person in charge
and get answers immediately, and we're big enough to be
able to move those projects forward as well. And we
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do hold our developers accountable as well. We want to
make sure that they're providing the necessary infrastructure to meet
the needs of their development, so that isn't resting on
the hands of the taxpayers, so that developers are paying
their own way when it comes to infrastructure. But they
understand that, We understand that, and it's been a it's
been it's been good in that aspect. It's not that
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that has always been the case, because there are some
complaints that you know, we started building too fast without
the infrastructure in place, and you know, that has really
been a focus since I've been in office, making sure
that any future development that does occur, making sure that
the developers are putting the necessary infrastructure, roads, water, sewer,
all of that stuff in prior to them opening.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
My guest is Madera County Supervisor Jordan Wamhoff walm Off Supervisor.
I've gotten to know supervisor now Gary Breidefeld and Nathan
Magzig and a little bit how it works there. It's
three three Republicans, two Democrats. What's your board like, how
do you guys work together as well? Because I know
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AG is a big deal to supervisors up here as well.
But what's the dynamic on the boardlike.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
So the dynamic is we have four Republicans and one Democrat. However,
you know our board is still very non partisan ninety
nine points something percon And of all the issues that come.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Before possible in life these days.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
It it isn't you.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Mean that You mean that when you say that, it
really is.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
No, it really is because a lot of the issues
that come before our board, to any any county board,
it's implementing state programs. It's roads, it's water, it's uh,
it's infrastructure, it's all the things.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
That aren't you or free. You don't have free needle
exchange conversations and things like that. So it's a little
easier to stay with some basic issues.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Well, I will say that Mederic County has a long history,
and so I think that some things are implied. So
when people even have the notion that they want to
do a needle exchange, they do realize that they're still
in Maderic County.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Is that why you smiled right when I asked that
you got a grin on your face, like it's a
little different a few miles north.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
I guess it is a little different up here, and
we're proud of that. Some things are just implied. We
are still a very conservative county and whether even if
you're a Democrat, we have we have middle of the
road democrat, many middle of the road Democrats. We have
a lot a lot of Democrats that obtain their CCW
out here. You know, people still, you know, like their guns,
they like their freedom. Republican or Democrat. We see a
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lot of common sense out here. We really I think
we call that blue dog there there are there are
quite a few blue.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Dogs out here. I had a city council member, Mike
CARBOSSI tell me he's a blue dog Democrat. And I'll
never forget when I found out. I don't know how
old I was as an adult, but when I found
out my dad's older brother, my uncle Bill, they said
he went I think he dart passed, but they said, yeah,
he he was a Democrat. And I was my head,
what we had a Democrat? And that's when I learned
(10:34):
that in Tennessee a lot of blue dog Democrats were
very quote kind of conservative.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
It's true. And I know Mike Carbossi very well. He's
a he's a great friend of mine, and uh, you know,
we align on a lot of things. Some things we don't,
but uh, you know, common sense really prevails, especially on
the local level. Once you get up to the state
or the federal stuff, you know, you you toe the
party line. But on a local level you don't have
to do that. I like our Bossy as a as
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a person. He's just he's a genuine individual, he really is.
And I tell him if he lived in Fort Worth,
he'd be a Republican. We'll see about that.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
I used to feel the same thing about Search sal
Quintero as well. I was like when we ended that
interview once we were having a good time life and
off the air, and I go, come on, just why
are you a Republican? Come on? He goes, Oh. So
many people tell me that. It's almost like Senator John fetterman,
come on over man. Yep.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Sal is a is a great guy and a great
example of another blue dog. And I think I think
sal has more Republican friends than he does Democrats.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Well, I gotta say he was one of the sharpest
dressmen in politics. Always looks sharp, always dressed, always had
a tie. Yeah, he's looking good, looking good, Well, supervisor,
I want to come back. Madera County here has now
become a Second Amendment sanctuary county. I guess that is
a tadbet conservative. We'll come back. We'll talk about that.
It's a Trevor Nation Fresno State Friday homecoming all over
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the place where we're live at a butcher boss when
eleven fifty six Highway forty one, just north of Valley
Children's Hospital here and Madera been a supervisor in this
growing county for now three years correct, three years, that's right,
three years and enjoying it. What made you guys get
into the California groove of becoming sanctuary this or sanctuary
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that you guys decided to be a Second Amendment sanctuary county.
Did you first explained that? Then I'll ask you if
you got pushback on that?
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Well, really it was about the governor recently signing into
law several anti gun bills that really just target law
abiding citizens and make it harder for people to obtain guns,
obtain gun parts, adds more regulation to gun stores, so
they ultimately just want to close up shop, and it's
death by a thousand cuts is really what it is.
(12:50):
So with the governor taking these actions, we as a
county and I authored a resolution to declare Madera County
a sanctuary, a Second Amendment sanctuary county, and it's mostly symbolic,
but what it does is is it lets our residents
know that we hear them and we care about them.
We also care about our constitution, and the resolution essentially
(13:14):
says that we are reaffirming our values and our and
what we believe in when it comes to the Second Amendment,
making sure that the CCW applications that people submit here
in Maderic County they're gonna be done expeditiously. We also
offer a free CCW training class for eligible county residents,
and so that resolution solidified those things.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
What makes it eligible For those that might not go
with CCW, They might go, well, this happened to me
before something. I know you're not a sheriff or police
chief here, but I guess it's crimes we will think
if there are. And you've got to be honest as well.
If they catch you fib in anything and find out
later you're pretty much I.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Don't know exactly what the criteria is, but I know
that our shaff, we have one of the best shaff.
So there's fifty eight counties. Sheriff Tyson Pogue is one
of the best. Is he's an amazing sheriff and he
really supports CCW, supports a second Amendment as well, and
he has done a fantastic job here in Madera County.
If you apply for a CCW, you will get an
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appointment that same week right now, which is unheard of
anywhere in the state. I mean, we are really pushing
these things through. We're cutting red tape where essentially, you know,
cutting out all the hoops that people normally have.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Well, of course you don't know all the rules. You
were in law enforcement most of your dot life. Well,
I never had to.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
I did apply for one actually when I was twenty one,
getting in law enforcement here in Madera County, and it
was a great experience.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Do you remember, I like to ask law enfortunate this
the first time you were out by yourself, there's no
trainer with you, You're by yourself on the streets. Do
you remember your first walk up to a car or
arrest or? That first was it at night time. It
was a rookie.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
I remember the call.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Everybody, everybody I've asked, does I want to hear this
to so?
Speaker 2 (15:00):
I when you get released, you get released to nights.
That's what happens when you're when you no longer have
a field training officer, you're you're you're out on nights.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
And uh.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
I remember hitting in service on on the on the
screen for the very first time. I'm ready, I'm ready,
I'm available for calls right and the dispatcher sends me
a message on the computer and says, I'm so sorry
and sends me to a call at Community Regional Medical
Center for a sexual assault. And for those who are
(15:31):
in law enforcement, you know, these are very, very detailed
reports that you have to do. So my very first
call was a sexual assault at the hospital where I
had to conduct an interview in the hospital. And there's
lots of protocols you have to do. But I remember
that right out of the gate. So you got extremely
long report.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
You got to realize the the emotional aspect dead officers got.
You know, you're running down an alley and your gunfire's going.
That's different than sitting in a in air condition room
talking to a young woman about what has happened to her.
You know that, right, and that stuff you think about
when you go home at night.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Yeah, and you know they have to you know, part
of the investigation is they they perform very sensitive tests
on on on these women, the sexual assault kit and
a nurse performs that test where they're taking swabs of
sensitive areas, and you know, they have an advocate in
the room as well, and it's it's it's a horrendous
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crime and a lot of a lot of the times
these crimes happened to prostitutes as well, and and that's
what it was in this case. And she openly admitted that,
you know that she was a prostitute and went in
and told her story. She was very honest and very believable.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Wow. I would think one of the hardest things would
be domestic disputes that where you can't take the nothing
bad has happened to the point where you can you
can't take the kids out of the house, but you
see so many conditions that children live in. I think
that would be one of the hardest being in law
enforcement and you know nothing you can do about it.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Then you know, well, you can apply the law and
that's what you can do. But yeah, there are some
some absolutely heartbreaking stories.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
That living in filth.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
You know, ev you see cockroaches on the walls, you
see kids with head lies. You can tell they haven't
washed their clothes in weeks. It's there are some really
really sad stories out there, especially in our own community, right,
I mean in Fresnom. I've been to new brisk calls
like that.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Yeah, well, thanks to everybody out there that has that
badge and that gun and that that does that. My
granddaddy was chief of police of himself. There was a
night watch man rather for Tennessee. I had the black
and white picture. It looks like Andy Griffith the cherry
ball on the police car and he's in his uniform
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next to the coke machine in front of the filling
station with his cigarette and his legs crossed.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
So it was one of those one horse towns where
he was.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
They if he was the guy.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Someone had a problem, they called the chief and he
went out and handled it.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
There it was. My dad said. They were working on
the front porch once then my dad was sixteen and
my granddad was behind him. He said, George, watch that
hammer when you come back because they're doing a plank
and he didn't any He had hit his dad, my
granddad in the head, knocked him out. So my dad
they put him in the police car. My dad sixteen,
turns on the siren lide and were takes off and
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takes him to.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
The hospital any way necessary.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I don't think you'd see that today, though, would you. Oh? Yeah,
I mean, I guess a sixteen year old cock Mike
could do that. I guess.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Well, the second amend thing, I just want to go
back to that for a minute, because when you were
talking about it, you said it doesn't change any laws
or create new ones here in Madeira County. But it's
it's like when a Freso City council put in God
we trust on the dais. It's like it's a statement
it doesn't change any laws and then make anybody have
to go to church. But it was a statement that
they made, so I guess it's in that same arena,
(18:57):
right it is.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
It's it's in the same arena. And you know, I
have received some criticism regarding you know, why didn't I
be more active when it comes to signing letters of
opposition regarding particular gun bills to send up to Sacramento. Yes,
we could have done that as well. However, we live
in a super majority in California where yeah, if we
(19:19):
signed a letter of opposition to a particular gun bill,
it would have went up. They would have crumpled it,
thrown it right in the trash. At least now with this,
you know, we got some coverage on it.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
We made a statement.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
We had a huge community.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
And so although it may not change any laws in Sacramento,
you know this, Some of these stories got published in
the Sacramento b and and different areas all over and
I received phone calls from supervisors in six different counties
asking me about this resolution. So, although it doesn't change
any particular law, it got the attention of people, and
(19:58):
it lets people know that that there are still counties
in California that care about the Constitution, care about the
Second Amendment.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Yeah, and these attacks at newsom issuing all these laws
he's putting it through to make it way harder in
tax and you can only buy this and that so
many a month, and all that it is just all
for show because the Supreme Court of the United States
shuts them down any time they go to court, they
get shut down. They lose every time in court, Newsom
does so it's just stage play.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Well some of it is stage play, but some of
it sticks. I mean, there are things who have an
eleven percent excise tax on guns and some gun parts
they added to the sensitive area list. If you have
a CCW that you can no longer go.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
To and the Supreme Court just say that you can
carry wherever that they can't do that, and then they
fought back.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
I'm just saying there are some things that they win.
There are some things that California still pushes through.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Yeah. Yeah, and with a concealed carry, they still have
it where you can have oh got it, put it away,
Oh got it. If you drive around town, go to
three or four different places, you might be in an
area where California says, oh, you can't have it, Yeah
you need.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
A PhD to and they're in a secure lock box
in your car, just to make sure. I mean, all
they're trying to do is make it so difficult that
you don't do it. That's really what it is. It
just targets law abiding citizens because in reality, the people.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
They play the game play the game, go ahead. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
In reality, the people that are committing crimes and shooting
each other, they're not following into these gun lawns.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
About this stuff. They do.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Well, okay, you're right, But it's all this does is
make it harder for people who are playing by the
rules to exercise their constitutional rights. That's all this is.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
And I'll tell you what if you grabbed a room
full of Democrats and you said to them, though, even
the ones that are like against gun law, you know
they're against the Second Amendment, really, and you said to them,
if you were at a festival and some guy came
out with an ak and started firing like crazy, you
would want eight ten responsible people that are trained in
that crowd that audience to return fire, wouldn't you, so
(21:57):
that you don't get killed. I would hope that ninety
nine percent, if they were telling the truth, they'd be like, yes,
I want to live.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Well, yeah, I mean it does come down to training,
because if you carry a firearm, thank y'all, you need
to be responsible for every bullet in that gun and
you and part of that responsibility means you train regularly
and you are put in and you are training in
decision making as well. Because there are so many different factors.
You know, if if someone is you know, has a
(22:25):
has a AK and they're spraying, yeah, you want people
there to be able to neutralize that threat as quickly
as possible. But even for police officers, I mean, you
hear stories of police officers and sheriff's deputies all throughout
the country who still make really bad choices and decisions
and uh it's and they're well trained, and it doesn't
(22:46):
mean that they did it with intent. But you know,
humans are humans, and humans still make mistakes, and so
I just want if I just want those who are
who are going to take that get the CCW and
carry gun. Make sure you're proficient with it because people
rely on you to be proficient with it as well.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
If I recall, I don't know if it's FBI stats,
but I saw something at some point. Hey, if you
read it on the internet, it's true. I read it
on the internet, so must But they were talking about
the safety record of CCW holders. With off duty police
officers and CCW holders, we had a better safety record.
I think that off duty police officers did guns. I
don't know that stat I'll look that up. I'll get
(23:26):
that to you, Well, what I do know.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
I mean I've worked with I mean, there's hundreds of
officers at the president Police Apartment.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Now, they're way more better trained. I know that.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
And you know, some of the best guys that I've
ever worked with and some of the most well trained,
and they take their job very, very seriously.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
And and the thing about it is that's not talked
about anytime you hear, oh an officer involved shooting, he's
off duty with pay while it's being reviewed. The few
seconds that you have when I thought of that, at
the bus stop down on Blackstone, they had that bodycamp
Presno PD pulled up middle of the day. It was
(24:02):
the call of a transient lady causing a scene, and
she pulled that knife out and got that other individual
by the neck, and that officer was a few feet away,
and he took the shot and took him out. And
I mean, you just don't know when you're pulling up
when that gun's gonna have to come out, and the
split second decision making.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Not only that, and those that have seen that video
for that officer to take that shot, he had confidence
in himself and he had confidence in his shooting because
when you are when your target is a foot away
from another human being head, you have confidence and his
radio traffic, his voice was calm. You could tell that
(24:41):
that officer has trained and he's done a great job.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
I think, do I remember him saying down? He was
trying to get the victim to go down, but they
you know, in the chaos, then he just took the shot.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Well, I don't recall the specifics of it, but yeah,
you would ideally you would want the person to drop down.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
But man, if I was if a knife was to
my neck, I'd be like, take that shot. Yes, indeed, Well,
thank you man for coming out. Is anything you want
to say to this upsetter by in Fresnee, anything you
want to say to Fresnel business about Madera County and
the opportunities.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
I will say that Madera County is open for business
and any person who's willing to invest in our community
you will see the difference when you come up to
Madera County. You will see how easy we are to
do business with. And this is our area is grown.
We have Riverstone, we have to throw a viejo, and
we have other areas that are around Valley Children's Hospital,
(25:37):
which are growing as well. Those that choose to do
business in Madera County. You will notice a difference when
you're going through the planning process or the building process
and how easy it is to do business up here.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Madera County Supervisor Jordan Wama, thank you, sir. I appreciate
you for coming out here. And I know you've already
enjoyed this burst get and tried to appear in your
neck of the woods. But what a what a spot
out here? If you wanted to say, what business do
they need? Like an ice cream store up here? A
dessert store? Because this is like, this is the only
(26:11):
barbecue joint. I would think up here for miles, right.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
I think this is the only barbecue place.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
All right? If I said I got five million dollars,
let's come up with something. What would you build? What's
needed here for the people? Do you think?
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Well, there are plans and with Dan Riley to have
a Riley's Brewery right actually just to the north of
Butcher Boss right here, and I've seen some of the
preliminary plans. It's beautiful, about a four and a half
million dollar building. It's just a full blown brewery, indoor outdoor,
open space. You have food trucks all that type of.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Stuff, so that's coming. Is there a dessert joint like
a cake, ice cream, meeed kind of place.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
We just opened Menscheese a few months ago. Mensche's Frozen
Yogurt just opened in the Riverstone Riverwalk shopping center right here,
and that was a fan favorite. Just in time for summer.
Those kids are to go in there in.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Same movie theater, but nobody we stay at home now
watch movies. You know, wh's the latch time you've been
to a movie, it's.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Well, I have three kids, so I did go fairly recently,
but I will say I have gone so much less,
and I think the movies are just terrible now. Yes,
I think everyone is just opted for Netflix and you know,
smaller budget.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Films and Netflix. If you don't like it, you can
start watching it in three minutes and you don't really
you know what it costs, just something you don't feel
like it's a movie price. And it's like, eh, I've just.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Been so disappointed with the blockbusters that have come out
in theaters. That's really it. And I think I don't
know the stats, but it just seems like people aren't
investing in those big, huge budget movies anymore.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Yeah, and you can tell the quality difference. You watch
a Will Smith movie from two thousand and one, a
Denaro movie from ninety eight or something. It's just the
quality involved in it. It looked, it even looks different than now.
Well just this, the plot lines and everything, the sets.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
You know, you can tell they put money into those
those movies. And you watch a Netflix movie, just it
feels like it's the same set or set in the
woods something free.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Well, you think about it. We used to have, let's
just say, one hundred great movies a year came out
of Hollywood. But now think of all these networks in
all the time they have to fill up. So why
wouldn't it get a little cheaper looking? It's bound to, right.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
I know it's the economics, but it is disappointing for
someone who grew up love going to the movies and
anticipating these big, huge blockbusters that come out. Hey, we
just don't.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
See them anymore. All right, it's Ciskel and Ebert. We're
live at the Butcher Boss here. You're too young. You
don't even know who Cisco and Ebert were?
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Do you two thumbs up?
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Come on. Okay, you do all right? Yeah, indeed, Hey,
thank you, supervisor, appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Hey, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
You've got your Trevor Nation Freshel State Homecoming Friday all
over the Place tour. We got a few more minutes.
They're open till six if you're coming up. Forty one
live at the Butcher Boss one eleven fifty six, forty one,
just north of Valley Children's Hospital here in Madre. Twelve
thirty is a kickoff, going to be a day game.
Our broadcast starts at ten thirty. We'll be down there
(28:59):
at Old Dog Boulevard. Of course, you can c kob
down there, and you can get your blackout gear as well,
so it's gonna be a blackout game. That means you're
supposed to be wearing black attire. You can buy it
out there, or you can get it wherever you might
want to get out there and get it. And this
was a great story. I know, the world series maybe
(29:19):
it's already started, it's probably already started the Dodgers in Toronto,
but there is a local connection to this that I
found very cool. Meant to bring this up with Paul Weffler.
I bet he even knew about it, but one Fresno
boy's gonna be at the World Series kmph dot com,
said Devin D. Barrera. Devin D. Now the D means something.
(29:42):
Hang on. He's ten years old. He has an al
expaded trip to Toronto. He's going to be in the pitch,
Hit and Run, and he's going to fly out tomorrow
for the first game up in Toronto. But there's a
story behind Devin D's unique name. His father, Jabviera, said
he decided he wanted to call his son Dodger, and
(30:03):
his wife said, calling Dodger that sounds like a dog's name,
so she said she wanted to name him Devon. So
she used the D from Dodger and said he's gonna
be Devon, and the dad said, let's do a hyphen
for Dodgers, So it's Devin D. I like that, Devin D.
Hey Devin D. Yeah, you got any time you name
a kid, you gotta act like you're yelling and out
(30:25):
at the park for him to come to you. Hey,
Devin D, come on, we gotta go. He was born
into a Dodger's onesie, they said, and he's loved the
Dodgers ever since. So imagine this guy. He goes to
Baard Middle School in Fresno. He is on a travel
team called the Sun Devils. But imagine being ten years
old getting to go to a World Series game like
(30:45):
that and it's the Dodgers that are playing, and it's
your favorite team. I guess the only thing to be
better would be if it was at Dodger Stadium. But
I mean getting to I'm sure he's been there probably,
but all expense pay trip to Toronto. Pitch hit and run.
He must be pretty pretty good. They said he's been
playing ball since he was six years old and he's
even created his own tutorial video to teach other kids
(31:08):
how to play. So I don't know if they show
it during the pregame, maybe they would. Major League Baseball
probably show that pitch hit and ryn. I didn't even
know they were still doing it. I remember as a
kid what punt pass and kick? Yeah with the NFL,
and they'd always had the kids out there representing the
team that the town that they're from, be all in
their NFL uniform out there on the field. So I'm
(31:30):
sure I wonder if Devin d will have a Dodger
uniform on for it. I'm sure that he would love
to have that, So watch that this weekend on Saturday.
I know my dad's getting all ready for the Dodger game.
Back in Tennessee. They got some friends visiting from Arizona.
So my mom was making the chicken wings and the
and the chili and in all of that, and uh
(31:54):
so we'll see. I man, I just I wasn't excited
when Joe Carter in the Blue Jays, what would they
beat Atlanta? When a Canadian team won the World Series.
It just didn't seem right with America's pastime. So let's
try and keep this in America here with our pastime.
Thanks to again to Madera County Supervisor Jordan Wamoff stopping
(32:17):
by talking about the Second Amendment and what makes Madera
County so great. Thanks to a voice of Fresno State
Athletics Paul Leffler for coming by joining us as well.
C K on sports. Of course, he joins me the
first hour of every show we do. And thank you
to Mark Evesian, the owner out here at Butcher Boss.
I have seen this meet out here grilling for three hours.
(32:38):
I'm gonna look forward to having my sandwich here at
the end, I'm gonna come back and I'm gonna tell
you about this horrible story from Oregon, Portland, Oregon. Just horrendous.
What happened? Could you imagine this? Could you imagine getting
a call from your kids school saying, hello, parent, this
is your kid's school. We're sending out communication about food contamination.
(33:02):
You're not gonna believe what they contaminated pretzels with at
a school. I think there's way more to this. I
think these parents deserve a clear answer about this because
food contamination. This sounds like food poisoning. I'll tell you that.
We'll wrap her up here. It's a Trevor Nation Fresno
State Friday Home come and getting ready for tomorrow, all
(33:23):
over the place to it. We're live at the Butcher
Boss one eleven fifty six Highway forty one, just north
of Valley Children's Hospital here in Maderra. This is a
day game as well. Kick off at twelve thirty and
you'll hear it right here on Power Talk AM fourteen hundred,
Fox Sports thirteen forty, all Up and Down the Valley
thirteen sixty, Modesto, and also on the iHeartRadio app. Gonna
(33:46):
be a big game. Fresno State five and two, two
and one in the Mountain West. The San Diego Aztecs
are five and one and they're two and zero in
the Mountain West. Paul Leffler, voice of Fresno State, CK
on Sports Conversations earlier this afternoon. The most important two
week span of the season coming up here. It'll be
making or break it one more win, go to a
(34:06):
bowl game. But we want that mount West championships, you know,
to finish out the tenure in the Mountain West for
going to the PAC twelve tomorrow and we're gonna have
a big old tailgating going on tomorrow. Bulldog Boulevard k
kicks it off at ten thirty out their pregame at
eleven thirty and that daytime twelve thirty kickoff. This was
(34:30):
I would think to kind of be alarming. How you doing, sir? Alarming?
This has happened at a school outside of Portland. They
had pretzels for the students they were served on Monday,
and somebody accidentally put oven cleaner on them. How do
you accidentally put oven cleaner on pretzels? I would say,
(34:52):
you don't. The message described the incident as a food
contamination accident during which oven cleaner and granul little form
was mistakenly applied to pretzels. So you got a couple
different areas. I would think of the kitchen, you would
have your oven cleaning section down there with your sponges
(35:12):
and your ajax and your lysol or whatever, and then
you would have the things that you cook with that
you sprinkle on pretzels in a totally different area. So
just saying they said it's unclear how it happened, a
formal inquiry is underway. Well, I would think so that
sounds like poisoning to me, straight up poisoning. Imagine getting
(35:32):
a voicemail that it happened. They deserve an answer on that.
Did you see the video Coast Guard? You normally don't
think about the Coast Guard whipping out the weapons and
firing away, but they did. This happened at a base
in Alameda. Coast Guard issued these commands to stop this truck.
It was backing up. They told it to stop, and
(35:53):
it kept on moving. Two men arrived at a local
hospital after the gunfire. I guess they got away. They
warned them and warned them, but they didn't do it.
So they arrived at the hospital. San Jose Mercury News
stated one of them's believed to be the driver of
the U haul. Not a good idea to do so.
I don't know what they had in mind as well,
(36:14):
but the Coastguard handled that last night. Good to hear.
I still having today's world. I've been out here smelling
barbecue and talking and having a good time. You feel
a little bit out of the loop if you haven't
gone and scoured the news in the last few hours.
But I guess I don't know what's happening in Portland.
If it's going to be a violent weekend. I hope
(36:35):
it's not gonna be a violent weekend, but we can
pretty much assume until those National Guard get there as well.
President Trump, now saying he's not sending it to San Francisco,
knew some did his whole I'm gonna sue everybody lawsuit.
Press conference, President Trump said he talked to some fine
folks in the Bay area and they assured hear him
that they are headed in the right direction. Mayor Laurie
(36:57):
and I guess some of Trump's financial friends is well
said give us a shot. Let us try and do it.
I read where Mayor Dyer was up there with the
big city mayors of California, saying that it's one of
the safest streets that he's ever walked on. You know
what I gotta do. We gotta get a hold of
some people that actually just live there. That's it. Assist
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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.
The Breakfast Club
The World's Most Dangerous Morning Show, The Breakfast Club, With DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, And Charlamagne Tha God!