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Speaker 1 (00:00):
John Girardi in for Trevor today. I am the executive
director at Right to Life of Central California RTLCC dot org. Yes,
I think the federal Medicaid program and the perverse incentives
that it presents to doctors, the unsustainable financial picture of
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it is leading to less care for pregnant women, and
particularly in California, with medical pushing women towards abortion. And
I have a piece about this that I had published
today in National Review. On National View Online, you can
go to my Twitter dot Twitter account Twitter dot com,
slash Fresnojohnny at Fresno, Johnny on X. I'm never going
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to get used to calling it X. I'm sorry, Elon.
It's always going to be Twitter to me.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
All right now. It is the height of megalamine.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
It's already a pretty megalomaniac thing to think you should
be a radio host, which I am, John Girardi, the
host of the John Girardi Show six to seven pm
Monday through Friday here on this very fine station, and
also writes Life Radio every Saturday morning at nine. But
I'd say even more megalamoniacal is to write something, have
it getting published, and then talk about it. Yourself on
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your radio show that you're hosting, Like, I'm talking to
you all about how I am talking to you all,
so bear with me. But I want to talk about
Medicaid and medical and basically the huge problems with prenatal
care provision that's resulting from it. So my take off
for this piece was Madera Community Hospital. As you guys know,
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Madera Community Hospital closed down a couple of years ago,
and it closed down. Why did it close down? Sixty
percent of their patients are on medical and medical doesn't
pay doctors very well for the services a doctor provides
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to a medical patient. So in the circle of life
that is American healthcare, you have three ps, the patient,
the payer, and the provider. The payer is the insurance
company or the government run insurance program like medical or Medicare,
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or a private insurance. The payer pays the provider for
performing a service on the patient. Where does the payer
get money, Well, the payer gets money either from the patient,
usually from the patient's employer who pays the premium for
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that patient's health insurance, or if it's a government funded
program like medical, it gets money from the taxpayers. So
the payer is so okay, the doctor aka the provider
gives some service to the patient and then the payer
pays the doctor, and the payer gets its money either
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from health insurance premiums or from taxes. Okay, here's the
problem with Medicaid slash Medical. Since Obamacare, the number of
people on Medicaid nationwide has increased dramatically the number of
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people on medical in California. So Medicaid is a joint
federal slash state program, and so every state has its
own sort of iteration of the federal Medicaid program. California's
is called medical and what Medicaid is. What medical is
is basically health insurance for people who are under a
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certain income threshold. It used to be with Medical that
it was design for specific groups of people who are
called legacy enrollees, so it's people who, for example, pregnant mothers,
disabled people, other groups. However, Medicaid has just become healthcare
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for lower income people, and the pool of people covered
by Medicaid has grown. The problem is, especially in California,
that the tax revenue and the state spending to pay
for the healthcare of medical beneficiaries has not grown at
the same rate. So you have a ton of people
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on medical and only a certain pool of money to
pay doctors for providing those patients with services. So what
happens as a result is that when a doctor provides
a medical service to a medical patient, the reimbursement they
get from medical is not very much money. If they
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do the same service to a patient who has a
private health insurance plan like Anthem, Blue Cross or you
know this that or the other guys or whatever, they
get way more money. And this phenomenon makes it difficult
to take care of medical patients if the hospital, the
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doctor whoever, is going to just lose money or barely
break even taking care of that patient.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
That's why, you know, one of the there was this
whole local.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Story about Valley Children's Hospital and are they paying Todd Cuntrapak,
the CEO of Valley Children's Are they paying him too
much money? And there was an accusation that came out,
is Valley Children's misappropriating medical funds to give Todd Centrapack
all this money, which makes me just roll my eyes.
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The quote medical funding that Valued Children's gets. It's it's
not like medical just gives away money. Medical gives Valuid
Children's money as reimbursement for services valid children's doctors perform
for patients, and those reimbursements barely cover the cost of
providing that care in the first place. Value Children's does
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not getting rich off of medical. I can guarantee you
that that they're not profiting from medical. Okay, same with
you know, Fresno and Clovis Community. There was this accusation
against Community Hospital up. Oh, they're they're they're funneling money
from Fresno community to Clovis community to make Clovis community
all nice and taking money away from lower income Latinos
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and black people who go to you know, Community Hospital Downtown. Again,
that's silly. If anything, I'm sure Clovis Community, which gets
a slightly higher percentage of private insurance payers, is probably
helping keep the lights.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
On at Community Downtown anyway.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
So you have this large pool of people covered by medical,
you only have certain amount of dollars, and it's not
like you can just get more money to pay for
medical reimbursements to go up. We're already the most heavily
taxed state in the country. What are you gonna do
increase taxes more on Californians. We pay more in taxes
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than anybody. How's that going to work? So medical reimbursements
are just not very much, and it resulted in Madera
Community Hospital closing down. Now, there were other reasons why
Maderic Community Hospital closed down. They didn't have jeez, they
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didn't have enough of a pool of qualified nurses, so
they would have to bring in all these travel nurses
who were really expensive. There were a lot of reasons
Maderia Community closed down, but medical was one of the
big reasons. And in fact, there have been about one
hundred and fifty one rural hospitals throughout the United States
since the twenty tens that have closed or partially closed
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in part because of Medicaid and this dynamic that Medicaid
just does not reimburse doctors enough. In rural areas, people
tend to be lower income, more people on Medicaid, and
it strains all these rural health systems. And one of
the biggest areas where this strain is felt is in
the provision of obgyn care, care for pregnant women and
other just general women's healthcare. Let me give you guys
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this example just from my own experience in starting our
Obria clinic, where we're taken care of a disproportionate number
of medical patients. The global bill for a pregnant woman
for her clinic visits and her delivery, and that's how
you build it for basically a lot of our clinic
that you can build for certain other kinds of things.
But you submit a global bill for her pregnancy, the
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clinic visits plus her delivery. A patient with a normal
delivery plus her clinic visits. With MEDICALITIY reimbursement is x.
For private insurance plan, it's three x. I mean, that's
how much more money we're talking like somewhere like all
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total wild estimates. Some of this might be a couple
of years old, but like fifteen hundred dollars versus forty
five hundred dollars, that's the difference we're talking about. And
with gynecology services, it's even worse from what I understand
from docs I've talked with. So I read this story, Okay,
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Mideric Community Hospital is going to reopen. Okay, great news.
Good to hear Maderak Community. You know Midera County does.
The only other hospital in Madera County is Valley Children's.
They didn't have another general hospital in Midea County. All
these people had all these bad emergency services. They were
either having to drive up north r Said or down
south to Fresno. Okay, Madera Community is reopening. They got
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a fifty seven million dollars state loan. They're reopening. But
guess what, They're not going to have no maternity ward,
No maternity ward have Madera Community when it reopens. That
was sort of buried several paragraphs deep in the Fresno
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B story reporting on it.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Why well, we.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Need to assess the financial impact because obgyn care for
medical patients loses money. So let me ask you put
yourself in the shoes of a low income woman.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
In Madera.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
You get pregnant, you don't have great financial standing. Maybe
the boyfriend's not really in the picture, maybe your family's
not in a great financial place. You're on medical. You
got to and someone who can take you for your
obgyn care. You got to find somewhere where you're going
to deliver. Another thing we're seeing is that medical is
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so unprofitable that more and more obgy in clinics and
medicalis are pain in the neck to work with that
more and more obgy in clinics don't want to take
medical patients, and that was the thing. Docks in the
San Joaquin Valley for years would say, Okay, well we're
gonna save some spots for medical patients. You know, docs
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would almost treat it the way like lawyers treat pro
bono work. You know, I know, I'm not going to
make money off of these medical patients, but this is
sort of a community minded thing I'm doing, all right,
I want to take lower and patients more and more
doctors not even doing that, and the finances of it
are sort of forcing them out of doing that. It's
forcing docs into the situation where it's either all or nothing.
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You take either all medical patients where you can get
access to certain kinds of state subsidies that allow it
to be somewhat profitable, and then you churn out with
no gynecology care because that still loses you a ton
of money. So all ob and you're delivering like fifty
babies a month, which is a huge volume, so of
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course your quality of care is gonna slip, or you
just don't take medical at all. And medical patients, by
the way, they tend to be more complex cases. They
tend to have worse health problems, more high risk pregnancies.
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It's worse for your liability. So you're a lower income
woman in Madera, you don't have anywhere to deliver in
the county. You're gonna have to drive to Fresno or Merced.
You know, maybe your og yn is closer there, and
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maybe you've got a Can you find an obguayn is
going to take medical if you do, are you one
of a gazillion? Is your first appointment with your obguayne
going to be four months from now?
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Huge percentage women.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
In Madera County are just not getting any prenatal care
in the first trimester whatsoever. Not getting adequate prenatal care.
Oh but you know what, there's a planned parenthood in Madera.
Just go in there, get a prescription for the abortion
pill done in a week. And there's no out of
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pocket costs for abortion in California anymore. The state legislature
passed to law saying no copees, no deductibles, medical covers.
Abortion doctors get or providers get heightened subsidized reimbursements for
providing abortion. You now have the abortion chapelle that you
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can get a prescription from it through a telemedicine visit.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
This is the Trevor carry Show on the Valley's Power Talk.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
John Garladi and for Trevor Carrey today. My thanks to
Trevor and Ryan and Chris and all the Power Talk
guys for letting me be on the Golden Power Talk. Mike,
I'm talking about my article that I got published in
National Review where I'm talking about medical and how I
think it's pushing lower income women into abortion. And I'm
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wondering if that is precisely the point.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Done? Done? Done?
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Is that precisely the point do they do? They want
it incentivized to push lower income women into abortion. Now,
the sort of fundamental problem with medical right now, and
this is not just the thing that impacts obgyn care,
but it acutely impacts obgyan care, is that, again, we
have tons of medical beneficiary, we have a limited pool
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of money to pay doctors for providing services to those
medical beneficiaries. So the amount of money doctors health care
providers get for providing a service is much less than
what you can expect to get from a private health
insurance carrying patient. And as you add more and more
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people that you know it's the same pool of money
and split between more and more people. So, you know,
Gavin Newsom adding anyone who might be in California illegally
as also eligible for medical has been a disaster, costing
the state billions more than they expected. Why they didn't
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expect that it would cost billions of dollars, I don't know.
So Gavin Newsom has only exacerbated this problem. And it
makes me wonder if this is all intentional to push
women towards abortion rather than having babies, to push lower
income women towards abortion than having babies. And this is
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why the pro abortion cause. The original founding spirit of
Planned Parenthood was openly clearly eugenic in nature. They were
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openly in favor of the concept of eugenics, the alleged
science of breeding human beings well for a race of thoroughbreds.
Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood, was all on
board with all that crap and was very coincidentally pushing
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her birth control services in the original iteration of planted
Parenthood on what racial groups exactly, A lot in African
American communities, a lot among the Italians, a lot among
the Irish. Basically racial groups that were not white Anglois,
snakes attacks and Protestants that she just didn't like. She
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spoke for gathering of the ku Klux Klan. She cheered
the Supreme Court when the Supreme Court had one of
its worst decisions, when the Supreme Court had this decision
that basically the state rules allowing for sterilization of lower
income women, one of the horrible old Supreme Court decisions
that Margaret Sanger thought was great. And now after World
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War Two, all of those people who were in favor
of eugenics and were citing eugenics as the reasons for
favoring birth control and or abortion, all of a sudden
they got real quiet, real fast. After Americans came home
from World War Two and saw the horrors of what
eugenics practically worked out looked like.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
And planned. Parent had changed.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
The whole pro abortion movement and the process and suicide
movement got away from eugenics and shifted towards Autonomy's tried
to make it about well, it allows people to make
their own individual choices. Let a woman decide what she's
going to do with her body. Let a woman decide
what she's going to do with her life. Et cetera,
et cetera, et cetera. But the problem is, as applied,
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it still seems like there are these very eugenic motivators.
You will very often hear people slip into, well, this
woman needs to make the choice what's best for her life,
and how is she really going to be able to
take care of this child in the low income situation?
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I mean, is this child really you know, might wind
up in the foster care system, and blah blah blah
blah blah. The foster care system is always a great
argument for murdering someone, apparently, like people will genuinely say
to you, well, maybe it's better for abortion rather than
have these kids end up in the foster care program,
to which I would say, all right, so is the
foster care program so bad that we literally it would
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be better if we murdered every child in the foster
care program? Is that how bad you think the foster
care program is? Sorry, warts and all, I'd say, the
foster care program is better than being dead. And it's
a lot of this kind of ablest quality of life
ultimately eugenic argumentation, and that masks slips when I propose
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things like, hey, well maybe we should. You know, Congress
wants to cut funding for abortion providers. Maybe we provide
it more for prenatal care through Medicaid. Maybe we take
funding streams and divertum you know, maybe less Medicaid funding
for able bodied adults who can find work and maybe
find insurance. More focus on women. One of the arguments
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that gets pushed is, well, long term, there's going to
be cost savings from.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Promoting more abortion, promoting more birth control because it's less expensive.
It is. Yeah, that's the scary thing.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
It is cheaper to kill someone then actually to take
care of them. And this is the risk of government
run healthcare systems. Again, I'm not saying. I'm not saying
government run healthcare systems are inherently bad. I don't you know.
I'm not saying abolish Medicaid overnight. But government run healthcare
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systems and private run healthcare systems too, I will say,
they have an incentive to cut costs. They do, and
if you can do something early on to cut off
long distance costs down the line, you're gonna do that.
You know why assistant suicide has become so popular in Canada.
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They have government run healthcare system and you know, it's
a lot less expensive than chemotherapy. Dialysis is just killing somebody.
So I wonder when I look at California and I
see louringcome women that it is objectively easier, more cost
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effective to just have them have an abortion then have
a baby. I wonder if that's intentional. Wayne from Fresno,
you're on there Perry Show with John Drody.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
What's up? Wayne?
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Hi? John? God bless you what you're doing, especially with
your clinic that you started in all your pro life efforts.
God bless you. I want to ask you a general
generalized question about abortion. How can abortions still be legal?
I'm talking about the clinical abortion where they open up
the woman's body and pull out the baby and kill it.
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How can abortions still be legal when Scott Peterson years
ago was convicted of murdering both his pregnant wife and
his unborn son. Isn't that contradictory? Could you explain it is?
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Yeah, that is a good question. I'll explain it real quick.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
It's because California law is inconsistent, and that inconsistency is
just embedded into California law. So it just basically takes
the attitude of if you are a murderer and you
just shoot a woman who happens to be pregnant, yes
you can be prosecuted for double homicide. But California has
a genuine carve out in its homicide law. I think
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it's California Penal Code one eighty seven. There's an explicit
carve out in the health Code saying that the killing
of a child growing in the womb in the context
of an abortion procedure chosen by the woman is not
covered as under California's homicide law. So yes, is it inconsistent? Yes,
it is, and that's just the only explanation for it.
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So I appreciate the question when I know that's a
very very common question people have.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Is it Trevor Charry Show on The Valley's Power.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Talk Medical, How basically medical medicaid are I think pushing
women into abortion? Basically, the low reimbursement rates of for
OBG y N care are more and more pushing women
into abortion. We've got Maya, Miya, Maya. You're on the
Trevor Carey Show with John Geordy.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
What's up?
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Hi? Can you hear it?
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Yep?
Speaker 2 (23:23):
I can go for it?
Speaker 4 (23:24):
Okay. I was just wondering why is it so hard
to just get birth control? But if you walk in
to get birth control, you don't I'm sure, okay, see,
and that's doing an abortion is like, oh, we're going
to take care of you. No I need re control.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Oh well you need business and it's like through the roof.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
But otherwise they're going to take.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Care of you.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
And then even when you do pay for it out
of pocket, they give you the Plan B and all
this other stuff, but just to get the birth control
shot or pills. Like why is it so hard to
get birth control? But they just want to They want
people to get pardy and then abort the babies. I
don't understand.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Yeah, well, I mean I don't know how. I mean,
I guess birth control. Having not gotten birth control myself,
it is a pretty I don't think it would work.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
I don't think it would work on me.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Now.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
I will say though, I do think there is a
bit of a false security with birth control. I think
it is often birth control as a sort of a
loss leader for groups like Planned parenthoods. So you get
you know, you get ten dumb twenty year olds, you
give them all birth control. You know that birth you
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know that birth control has a certain built in failure rate.
I know these people are all having sex at a
time in their life when they're not really ready to
welcome a child, and you know that they won't use
it consistently, and you'll get two of those women coming
back to have abortions, which abortion is your money maker,
and they pay for the other.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
So it's it's the money.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
It's the money abortion. It's not like education.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
You should they should sit down and educate these women
because I was on the tunnel, I've been on the
shot what not. But it's just like it's expensive.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Yeah, well, I would say, like, like you have to
realize this about abortion providers. They don't they make all
their money on abortion. It's the only service they provide,
especially if they're serving mostly medical patients. It's the only
service they provide that reimburses them.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Worth a dam No, there's no help, it's no Well,
obviously I realize it's it's not really to help any
it's everything's the money making system.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
But it's just it just boggles my mind.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
It's like education. Two women get on the shut the pills.
There's a bird control things you can go through or.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Or orgeous for you or just you know, don't get
in a sexual relationship when you're not ready to have
a baby.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
I mean maybe, I.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Mean and ultimately like that's and I think that the
problem is from a public health perspective, the best thing
you can promote is primary prevention, not used not don't
you not not use?
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Yeah, we'll talk in the middle.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
Why don't they promote the middle?
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Well, that's what I'm saying. They do promote the middle.
They promote the middle because it makes them more money
on abortion. Later, I'm saying the middle doesn't work.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
The middle, Well, it would work if there's more promotion
on education.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
They promoted and educated about it. They they it's mandated
to be taught in every California public school.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
They dump tons of money into it.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
They dole out way more contraception than they do individual
abortion procedures.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Abortion is not.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Clinic.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Well, I mean, look, I've got my employee standing outside
of planned parenthood multiple days a week.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Most of those people.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Going in and out are going in and out for contraception,
and they're eventually they'll come back for abortion. What I'm
saying is, and I appreciate the callum, I thank.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
You for the discussion. I appreciate. I'm on a heartbreak.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
This is the thing that I you know, when smart
ALECI people say to me.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
Well, if you don't like abortion, how come you're not
promoting more contraception, more sex, a little more conception. You're
just a you know, uptight Catholic who thinks contraception is bad.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
First of all, from a public health perspective, as much
as you want to rag on abstinence education, the only thing,
the only thing anyone has in their head about abstinence education.
Whatever is the scene from Mean Girls where the teachers
don't have sex or You'll die. From a public health perspective,
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a primary preventative strategy is the best strategy to stop
the risky health care behavior that you want to avoid.
We didn't say, hey, everybody smoke less dangerous cigarettes mitigate
the risk. We told people to avoid the risk, stop
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the risk, just say no, don't smoke. And teenage rates
of smoking tobacco normal tobacco cigarettes have plummeted in the
United States with a concerted, decades long, consistent effort. But
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for some reason, we think that sex that we are
just these uncontrollable beings, and so We're like, ah, fifteen
year olds can be expected to not have sex, So
let's do this risk reduction strategy. Just throw condoms at
the problem. Give them all condoms, give them all birth control.
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You know who is not likely to practice restraint when
it comes to sex if they're given even the slightest
bit of a yellow light. It's sixteen year olds. You
know who's not likely to use their birth control very regularly.
It's sixteen year olds. You know who's not likely to
use a condom right or forget Oh but I forgot
to use a condom, or I broke the cond whatever,
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be irresponsible with it. Sixteen year olds. And again, how
does planned parenthood make all their money? They make their
money by giving out contraception to ten people who are
making bad choices, having sexual activity with someone they shouldn't
be in the sexual relationship with, and then waiting on
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one of them to have their birth control fail or
they forget to take their birth control, and then they
get pregnant and they get an abortion, and that makes
up all the money the planned parent had lost. That's
what I That's why I say birth control is a
loss leader for these entities. So I recognize I have
very much a minority viewpoint on this topic, but I
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think I'm right and I'm the guy with the microphone,
So if you don't like it, you know, hey, no
good boys of pleasure filling in for Trevor, Paul Leffler
and the President of State Bulldog Baseball Hour coming up
right after this.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
As most of you all know, I am the host of.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
The John Girardi Show, usually airs Monday thro Friday sixty
seven unless you know, Paul Leffler's stepping in for Bulldog Sports.
And I'm also the host of Right to Life Radio
every Saturday morning here on Power Talk nine to ten.
And I'm my day job, of course, I'm the director
of Right to Life of Central California. We're a pro
life educational, nonprofit outreach organization. If you liked any of
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this radio show and you'd like me to come to
your church, to your school, to come talk, give talks
for youth groups, give talk to adult groups about the
accessible talk to adult groups, especially parent groups, about the
accessibility of abortion to children. A lot has changed in
California state law in the last even five years, making
abortion more accessible to children. Stuff has changed with California
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sex education curricula. If you would like me to come
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Speaker 2 (31:34):
As I've mentioned. Also, you know, I wrote this whole.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Thing in National Review about abortion and medical and it's
in part because I started a nonprofit obgyn clinic to
help lower income women get good prenatal carets called the
Obria Medical Clinics of Central California. I'd really encourage you
guys to check out Obria three six five dot org.
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Obria three six five dot org. You can donate tax
douctorble not donation to our nonprofit. Again, we do great
work helping women in need. We're trying to walk the
pro life walk, not just talk the pro life talk.
We realize that a lot of you know. Again, my
thesis is California has made it much easier for a
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lower income pregnant woman to have an abortion than to
have a baby, and as a result, we need to
do everything we can to help people in those situations,
to extend the boundaries of who is our neighbor and
do everything we can to help alleviate the burdens of
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a difficult, unexpected pregnancy for lower income people. So if
you want, if you believe that as I do, if
you want to support that work again. Obria three six
five dot org Obria three sixty five dot org. You know,
I've been writing more and more. I'm working on sort
of a longer form work. I don't know if it's
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going to be a book. Maybe it's more of a
I don't know, maybe somewhere in between a book and
a long essay. And it's been thinking about the parable
of the good Samaritan and trying to apply the concept
of mercy or compassion to various kinds of ethical questions,
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ethical and public policy questions. And one of the things
that's interesting about the parable of the Good Samaritan it
comes right after the great commandment, what's the greatest commandment?
Love Lord, your God with all your heart, Love your
neighbor as yourself. And then some lawyer, of course, asked Jesus.
I say this as a lawyer.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
We are pains in the butt.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
I asked you as well, But who's my neighbor? And
Jesus gives the parable of the good Smaritan. You know,
guy lying half dead by the side of the road,
Jewish guy lying half dead by the side of the road.
Priest doesn't stop to help him. The Levite doesn't stop
to help him because they know they'll be richuly impure
if they touch him. But the Samaritan stops helps the
guy out. And I think that our first instinct is
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always to put ourselves in the shoes of the priest,
or the Levite, or the or the Smaritan, and asks, well,
which of these would I behave like and sort of
examine your conscience about Well, hopefully I would act like,
you know, the Samaritan. The way that a lot of
church fathers thought about it, though, was actually, no, we're
the guy half dead by the side of the road,
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and Jesus is the Smeratan, and these two things sort
of reinforce each other.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
The assist that Trevor carry show on the Valley's Power
Dog
John Girardi in for Trevor today. I am the executive
director at Right to Life of Central California RTLCC dot org. Yes,
I think the federal Medicaid program and the perverse incentives
that it presents to doctors, the unsustainable financial picture of
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it is leading to less care for pregnant women, and
particularly in California, with medical pushing women towards abortion. And
I have a piece about this that I had published
today in National Review. On National View Online, you can
go to my Twitter dot Twitter account Twitter dot com,
slash Fresnojohnny at Fresno, Johnny on X. I'm never going
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to get used to calling it X. I'm sorry, Elon.
It's always going to be Twitter to me.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
All right now. It is the height of megalamine.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
It's already a pretty megalomaniac thing to think you should
be a radio host, which I am, John Girardi, the
host of the John Girardi Show six to seven pm
Monday through Friday here on this very fine station, and
also writes Life Radio every Saturday morning at nine. But
I'd say even more megalamoniacal is to write something, have
it getting published, and then talk about it. Yourself on
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your radio show that you're hosting, Like, I'm talking to
you all about how I am talking to you all,
so bear with me. But I want to talk about
Medicaid and medical and basically the huge problems with prenatal
care provision that's resulting from it. So my take off
for this piece was Madera Community Hospital. As you guys know,
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Madera Community Hospital closed down a couple of years ago,
and it closed down. Why did it close down? Sixty
percent of their patients are on medical and medical doesn't
pay doctors very well for the services a doctor provides
(02:02):
to a medical patient. So in the circle of life
that is American healthcare, you have three ps, the patient,
the payer, and the provider. The payer is the insurance
company or the government run insurance program like medical or Medicare,
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or a private insurance. The payer pays the provider for
performing a service on the patient. Where does the payer
get money, Well, the payer gets money either from the patient,
usually from the patient's employer who pays the premium for
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that patient's health insurance, or if it's a government funded
program like medical, it gets money from the taxpayers. So
the payer is so okay, the doctor aka the provider
gives some service to the patient and then the payer
pays the doctor, and the payer gets its money either
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from health insurance premiums or from taxes. Okay, here's the
problem with Medicaid slash Medical. Since Obamacare, the number of
people on Medicaid nationwide has increased dramatically the number of
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people on medical in California. So Medicaid is a joint
federal slash state program, and so every state has its
own sort of iteration of the federal Medicaid program. California's
is called medical and what Medicaid is. What medical is
is basically health insurance for people who are under a
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certain income threshold. It used to be with Medical that
it was design for specific groups of people who are
called legacy enrollees, so it's people who, for example, pregnant mothers,
disabled people, other groups. However, Medicaid has just become healthcare
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for lower income people, and the pool of people covered
by Medicaid has grown. The problem is, especially in California,
that the tax revenue and the state spending to pay
for the healthcare of medical beneficiaries has not grown at
the same rate. So you have a ton of people
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on medical and only a certain pool of money to
pay doctors for providing those patients with services. So what
happens as a result is that when a doctor provides
a medical service to a medical patient, the reimbursement they
get from medical is not very much money. If they
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do the same service to a patient who has a
private health insurance plan like Anthem, Blue Cross or you
know this that or the other guys or whatever, they
get way more money. And this phenomenon makes it difficult
to take care of medical patients if the hospital, the
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doctor whoever, is going to just lose money or barely
break even taking care of that patient.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
That's why, you know, one of the there was this
whole local.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Story about Valley Children's Hospital and are they paying Todd Cuntrapak,
the CEO of Valley Children's Are they paying him too
much money? And there was an accusation that came out,
is Valley Children's misappropriating medical funds to give Todd Centrapack
all this money, which makes me just roll my eyes.
(06:00):
The quote medical funding that Valued Children's gets. It's it's
not like medical just gives away money. Medical gives Valuid
Children's money as reimbursement for services valid children's doctors perform
for patients, and those reimbursements barely cover the cost of
providing that care in the first place. Value Children's does
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not getting rich off of medical. I can guarantee you
that that they're not profiting from medical. Okay, same with
you know, Fresno and Clovis Community. There was this accusation
against Community Hospital up. Oh, they're they're they're funneling money
from Fresno community to Clovis community to make Clovis community
all nice and taking money away from lower income Latinos
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and black people who go to you know, Community Hospital Downtown. Again,
that's silly. If anything, I'm sure Clovis Community, which gets
a slightly higher percentage of private insurance payers, is probably
helping keep the lights.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
On at Community Downtown anyway.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
So you have this large pool of people covered by medical,
you only have certain amount of dollars, and it's not
like you can just get more money to pay for
medical reimbursements to go up. We're already the most heavily
taxed state in the country. What are you gonna do
increase taxes more on Californians. We pay more in taxes
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than anybody. How's that going to work? So medical reimbursements
are just not very much, and it resulted in Madera
Community Hospital closing down. Now, there were other reasons why
Maderic Community Hospital closed down. They didn't have jeez, they
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didn't have enough of a pool of qualified nurses, so
they would have to bring in all these travel nurses
who were really expensive. There were a lot of reasons
Maderia Community closed down, but medical was one of the
big reasons. And in fact, there have been about one
hundred and fifty one rural hospitals throughout the United States
since the twenty tens that have closed or partially closed
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in part because of Medicaid and this dynamic that Medicaid
just does not reimburse doctors enough. In rural areas, people
tend to be lower income, more people on Medicaid, and
it strains all these rural health systems. And one of
the biggest areas where this strain is felt is in
the provision of obgyn care, care for pregnant women and
other just general women's healthcare. Let me give you guys
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this example just from my own experience in starting our
Obria clinic, where we're taken care of a disproportionate number
of medical patients. The global bill for a pregnant woman
for her clinic visits and her delivery, and that's how
you build it for basically a lot of our clinic
that you can build for certain other kinds of things.
But you submit a global bill for her pregnancy, the
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clinic visits plus her delivery. A patient with a normal
delivery plus her clinic visits. With MEDICALITIY reimbursement is x.
For private insurance plan, it's three x. I mean, that's
how much more money we're talking like somewhere like all
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total wild estimates. Some of this might be a couple
of years old, but like fifteen hundred dollars versus forty
five hundred dollars, that's the difference we're talking about. And
with gynecology services, it's even worse from what I understand
from docs I've talked with. So I read this story, Okay,
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Mideric Community Hospital is going to reopen. Okay, great news.
Good to hear Maderak Community. You know Midera County does.
The only other hospital in Madera County is Valley Children's.
They didn't have another general hospital in Midea County. All
these people had all these bad emergency services. They were
either having to drive up north r Said or down
south to Fresno. Okay, Madera Community is reopening. They got
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a fifty seven million dollars state loan. They're reopening. But
guess what, They're not going to have no maternity ward,
No maternity ward have Madera Community when it reopens. That
was sort of buried several paragraphs deep in the Fresno
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B story reporting on it.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Why well, we.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Need to assess the financial impact because obgyn care for
medical patients loses money. So let me ask you put
yourself in the shoes of a low income woman.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
In Madera.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
You get pregnant, you don't have great financial standing. Maybe
the boyfriend's not really in the picture, maybe your family's
not in a great financial place. You're on medical. You
got to and someone who can take you for your
obgyn care. You got to find somewhere where you're going
to deliver. Another thing we're seeing is that medical is
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so unprofitable that more and more obgy in clinics and
medicalis are pain in the neck to work with that
more and more obgy in clinics don't want to take
medical patients, and that was the thing. Docks in the
San Joaquin Valley for years would say, Okay, well we're
gonna save some spots for medical patients. You know, docs
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would almost treat it the way like lawyers treat pro
bono work. You know, I know, I'm not going to
make money off of these medical patients, but this is
sort of a community minded thing I'm doing, all right,
I want to take lower and patients more and more
doctors not even doing that, and the finances of it
are sort of forcing them out of doing that. It's
forcing docs into the situation where it's either all or nothing.
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You take either all medical patients where you can get
access to certain kinds of state subsidies that allow it
to be somewhat profitable, and then you churn out with
no gynecology care because that still loses you a ton
of money. So all ob and you're delivering like fifty
babies a month, which is a huge volume, so of
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course your quality of care is gonna slip, or you
just don't take medical at all. And medical patients, by
the way, they tend to be more complex cases. They
tend to have worse health problems, more high risk pregnancies.
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It's worse for your liability. So you're a lower income
woman in Madera, you don't have anywhere to deliver in
the county. You're gonna have to drive to Fresno or Merced.
You know, maybe your og yn is closer there, and
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maybe you've got a Can you find an obguayn is
going to take medical if you do, are you one
of a gazillion? Is your first appointment with your obguayne
going to be four months from now?
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Huge percentage women.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
In Madera County are just not getting any prenatal care
in the first trimester whatsoever. Not getting adequate prenatal care.
Oh but you know what, there's a planned parenthood in Madera.
Just go in there, get a prescription for the abortion
pill done in a week. And there's no out of
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pocket costs for abortion in California anymore. The state legislature
passed to law saying no copees, no deductibles, medical covers.
Abortion doctors get or providers get heightened subsidized reimbursements for
providing abortion. You now have the abortion chapelle that you
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can get a prescription from it through a telemedicine visit.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
This is the Trevor carry Show on the Valley's Power Talk.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
John Garladi and for Trevor Carrey today. My thanks to
Trevor and Ryan and Chris and all the Power Talk
guys for letting me be on the Golden Power Talk. Mike,
I'm talking about my article that I got published in
National Review where I'm talking about medical and how I
think it's pushing lower income women into abortion. And I'm
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wondering if that is precisely the point.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Done? Done? Done?
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Is that precisely the point do they do? They want
it incentivized to push lower income women into abortion. Now,
the sort of fundamental problem with medical right now, and
this is not just the thing that impacts obgyn care,
but it acutely impacts obgyan care, is that, again, we
have tons of medical beneficiary, we have a limited pool
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of money to pay doctors for providing services to those
medical beneficiaries. So the amount of money doctors health care
providers get for providing a service is much less than
what you can expect to get from a private health
insurance carrying patient. And as you add more and more
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people that you know it's the same pool of money
and split between more and more people. So, you know,
Gavin Newsom adding anyone who might be in California illegally
as also eligible for medical has been a disaster, costing
the state billions more than they expected. Why they didn't
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expect that it would cost billions of dollars, I don't know.
So Gavin Newsom has only exacerbated this problem. And it
makes me wonder if this is all intentional to push
women towards abortion rather than having babies, to push lower
income women towards abortion than having babies. And this is
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why the pro abortion cause. The original founding spirit of
Planned Parenthood was openly clearly eugenic in nature. They were
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openly in favor of the concept of eugenics, the alleged
science of breeding human beings well for a race of thoroughbreds.
Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood, was all on
board with all that crap and was very coincidentally pushing
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her birth control services in the original iteration of planted
Parenthood on what racial groups exactly, A lot in African
American communities, a lot among the Italians, a lot among
the Irish. Basically racial groups that were not white Anglois,
snakes attacks and Protestants that she just didn't like. She
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spoke for gathering of the ku Klux Klan. She cheered
the Supreme Court when the Supreme Court had one of
its worst decisions, when the Supreme Court had this decision
that basically the state rules allowing for sterilization of lower
income women, one of the horrible old Supreme Court decisions
that Margaret Sanger thought was great. And now after World
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War Two, all of those people who were in favor
of eugenics and were citing eugenics as the reasons for
favoring birth control and or abortion, all of a sudden
they got real quiet, real fast. After Americans came home
from World War Two and saw the horrors of what
eugenics practically worked out looked like.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
And planned. Parent had changed.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
The whole pro abortion movement and the process and suicide
movement got away from eugenics and shifted towards Autonomy's tried
to make it about well, it allows people to make
their own individual choices. Let a woman decide what she's
going to do with her body. Let a woman decide
what she's going to do with her life. Et cetera,
et cetera, et cetera. But the problem is, as applied,
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it still seems like there are these very eugenic motivators.
You will very often hear people slip into, well, this
woman needs to make the choice what's best for her life,
and how is she really going to be able to
take care of this child in the low income situation?
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I mean, is this child really you know, might wind
up in the foster care system, and blah blah blah
blah blah. The foster care system is always a great
argument for murdering someone, apparently, like people will genuinely say
to you, well, maybe it's better for abortion rather than
have these kids end up in the foster care program,
to which I would say, all right, so is the
foster care program so bad that we literally it would
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be better if we murdered every child in the foster
care program? Is that how bad you think the foster
care program is? Sorry, warts and all, I'd say, the
foster care program is better than being dead. And it's
a lot of this kind of ablest quality of life
ultimately eugenic argumentation, and that masks slips when I propose
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things like, hey, well maybe we should. You know, Congress
wants to cut funding for abortion providers. Maybe we provide
it more for prenatal care through Medicaid. Maybe we take
funding streams and divertum you know, maybe less Medicaid funding
for able bodied adults who can find work and maybe
find insurance. More focus on women. One of the arguments
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that gets pushed is, well, long term, there's going to
be cost savings from.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Promoting more abortion, promoting more birth control because it's less expensive.
It is. Yeah, that's the scary thing.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
It is cheaper to kill someone then actually to take
care of them. And this is the risk of government
run healthcare systems. Again, I'm not saying. I'm not saying
government run healthcare systems are inherently bad. I don't you know.
I'm not saying abolish Medicaid overnight. But government run healthcare
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systems and private run healthcare systems too, I will say,
they have an incentive to cut costs. They do, and
if you can do something early on to cut off
long distance costs down the line, you're gonna do that.
You know why assistant suicide has become so popular in Canada.
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They have government run healthcare system and you know, it's
a lot less expensive than chemotherapy. Dialysis is just killing somebody.
So I wonder when I look at California and I
see louringcome women that it is objectively easier, more cost
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effective to just have them have an abortion then have
a baby. I wonder if that's intentional. Wayne from Fresno,
you're on there Perry Show with John Drody.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
What's up? Wayne?
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Hi? John? God bless you what you're doing, especially with
your clinic that you started in all your pro life efforts.
God bless you. I want to ask you a general
generalized question about abortion. How can abortions still be legal?
I'm talking about the clinical abortion where they open up
the woman's body and pull out the baby and kill it.
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How can abortions still be legal when Scott Peterson years
ago was convicted of murdering both his pregnant wife and
his unborn son. Isn't that contradictory? Could you explain it is?
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Yeah, that is a good question. I'll explain it real quick.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
It's because California law is inconsistent, and that inconsistency is
just embedded into California law. So it just basically takes
the attitude of if you are a murderer and you
just shoot a woman who happens to be pregnant, yes
you can be prosecuted for double homicide. But California has
a genuine carve out in its homicide law. I think
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it's California Penal Code one eighty seven. There's an explicit
carve out in the health Code saying that the killing
of a child growing in the womb in the context
of an abortion procedure chosen by the woman is not
covered as under California's homicide law. So yes, is it inconsistent? Yes,
it is, and that's just the only explanation for it.
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So I appreciate the question when I know that's a
very very common question people have.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Is it Trevor Charry Show on The Valley's Power.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Talk Medical, How basically medical medicaid are I think pushing
women into abortion? Basically, the low reimbursement rates of for
OBG y N care are more and more pushing women
into abortion. We've got Maya, Miya, Maya. You're on the
Trevor Carey Show with John Geordy.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
What's up?
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Hi? Can you hear it?
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Yep?
Speaker 2 (23:23):
I can go for it?
Speaker 4 (23:24):
Okay. I was just wondering why is it so hard
to just get birth control? But if you walk in
to get birth control, you don't I'm sure, okay, see,
and that's doing an abortion is like, oh, we're going
to take care of you. No I need re control.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Oh well you need business and it's like through the roof.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
But otherwise they're going to take.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Care of you.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
And then even when you do pay for it out
of pocket, they give you the Plan B and all
this other stuff, but just to get the birth control
shot or pills. Like why is it so hard to
get birth control? But they just want to They want
people to get pardy and then abort the babies. I
don't understand.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Yeah, well, I mean I don't know how. I mean,
I guess birth control. Having not gotten birth control myself,
it is a pretty I don't think it would work.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
I don't think it would work on me.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Now.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
I will say though, I do think there is a
bit of a false security with birth control. I think
it is often birth control as a sort of a
loss leader for groups like Planned parenthoods. So you get
you know, you get ten dumb twenty year olds, you
give them all birth control. You know that birth you
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know that birth control has a certain built in failure rate.
I know these people are all having sex at a
time in their life when they're not really ready to
welcome a child, and you know that they won't use
it consistently, and you'll get two of those women coming
back to have abortions, which abortion is your money maker,
and they pay for the other.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
So it's it's the money.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
It's the money abortion. It's not like education.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
You should they should sit down and educate these women
because I was on the tunnel, I've been on the
shot what not. But it's just like it's expensive.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Yeah, well, I would say, like, like you have to
realize this about abortion providers. They don't they make all
their money on abortion. It's the only service they provide,
especially if they're serving mostly medical patients. It's the only
service they provide that reimburses them.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
Worth a dam No, there's no help, it's no Well,
obviously I realize it's it's not really to help any
it's everything's the money making system.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
But it's just it just boggles my mind.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
It's like education. Two women get on the shut the pills.
There's a bird control things you can go through or.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
Or orgeous for you or just you know, don't get
in a sexual relationship when you're not ready to have
a baby.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
I mean maybe, I.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Mean and ultimately like that's and I think that the
problem is from a public health perspective, the best thing
you can promote is primary prevention, not used not don't
you not not use?
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Yeah, we'll talk in the middle.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
Why don't they promote the middle?
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Well, that's what I'm saying. They do promote the middle.
They promote the middle because it makes them more money
on abortion. Later, I'm saying the middle doesn't work.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
The middle, Well, it would work if there's more promotion
on education.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
They promoted and educated about it. They they it's mandated
to be taught in every California public school.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
They dump tons of money into it.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
They dole out way more contraception than they do individual
abortion procedures.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Abortion is not.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Clinic.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Well, I mean, look, I've got my employee standing outside
of planned parenthood multiple days a week.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Most of those people.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Going in and out are going in and out for contraception,
and they're eventually they'll come back for abortion. What I'm
saying is, and I appreciate the callum, I thank.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
You for the discussion. I appreciate. I'm on a heartbreak.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
This is the thing that I you know, when smart
ALECI people say to me.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
Well, if you don't like abortion, how come you're not
promoting more contraception, more sex, a little more conception. You're
just a you know, uptight Catholic who thinks contraception is bad.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
First of all, from a public health perspective, as much
as you want to rag on abstinence education, the only thing,
the only thing anyone has in their head about abstinence education.
Whatever is the scene from Mean Girls where the teachers
don't have sex or You'll die. From a public health perspective,
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a primary preventative strategy is the best strategy to stop
the risky health care behavior that you want to avoid.
We didn't say, hey, everybody smoke less dangerous cigarettes mitigate
the risk. We told people to avoid the risk, stop
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the risk, just say no, don't smoke. And teenage rates
of smoking tobacco normal tobacco cigarettes have plummeted in the
United States with a concerted, decades long, consistent effort. But
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for some reason, we think that sex that we are
just these uncontrollable beings, and so We're like, ah, fifteen
year olds can be expected to not have sex, So
let's do this risk reduction strategy. Just throw condoms at
the problem. Give them all condoms, give them all birth control.
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You know who is not likely to practice restraint when
it comes to sex if they're given even the slightest
bit of a yellow light. It's sixteen year olds. You
know who's not likely to use their birth control very regularly.
It's sixteen year olds. You know who's not likely to
use a condom right or forget Oh but I forgot
to use a condom, or I broke the cond whatever,
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be irresponsible with it. Sixteen year olds. And again, how
does planned parenthood make all their money? They make their
money by giving out contraception to ten people who are
making bad choices, having sexual activity with someone they shouldn't
be in the sexual relationship with, and then waiting on
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one of them to have their birth control fail or
they forget to take their birth control, and then they
get pregnant and they get an abortion, and that makes
up all the money the planned parent had lost. That's
what I That's why I say birth control is a
loss leader for these entities. So I recognize I have
very much a minority viewpoint on this topic, but I
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think I'm right and I'm the guy with the microphone,
So if you don't like it, you know, hey, no
good boys of pleasure filling in for Trevor, Paul Leffler
and the President of State Bulldog Baseball Hour coming up
right after this.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
As most of you all know, I am the host of.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
The John Girardi Show, usually airs Monday thro Friday sixty
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life educational, nonprofit outreach organization. If you liked any of
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this radio show and you'd like me to come to
your church, to your school, to come talk, give talks
for youth groups, give talk to adult groups about the
accessible talk to adult groups, especially parent groups, about the
accessibility of abortion to children. A lot has changed in
California state law in the last even five years, making
abortion more accessible to children. Stuff has changed with California
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sex education curricula. If you would like me to come
speak for those things, please get in touch with us
Right to Life Central California. You can find us online
at RTLCC dot org.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
As I've mentioned. Also, you know, I wrote this whole.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Thing in National Review about abortion and medical and it's
in part because I started a nonprofit obgyn clinic to
help lower income women get good prenatal carets called the
Obria Medical Clinics of Central California. I'd really encourage you
guys to check out Obria three six five dot org.
(31:57):
Obria three six five dot org. You can donate tax
douctorble not donation to our nonprofit. Again, we do great
work helping women in need. We're trying to walk the
pro life walk, not just talk the pro life talk.
We realize that a lot of you know. Again, my
thesis is California has made it much easier for a
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lower income pregnant woman to have an abortion than to
have a baby, and as a result, we need to
do everything we can to help people in those situations,
to extend the boundaries of who is our neighbor and
do everything we can to help alleviate the burdens of
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a difficult, unexpected pregnancy for lower income people. So if
you want, if you believe that as I do, if
you want to support that work again. Obria three six
five dot org Obria three sixty five dot org. You know,
I've been writing more and more. I'm working on sort
of a longer form work. I don't know if it's
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going to be a book. Maybe it's more of a
I don't know, maybe somewhere in between a book and
a long essay. And it's been thinking about the parable
of the good Samaritan and trying to apply the concept
of mercy or compassion to various kinds of ethical questions,
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ethical and public policy questions. And one of the things
that's interesting about the parable of the Good Samaritan it
comes right after the great commandment, what's the greatest commandment?
Love Lord, your God with all your heart, Love your
neighbor as yourself. And then some lawyer, of course, asked Jesus.
I say this as a lawyer.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
We are pains in the butt.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
I asked you as well, But who's my neighbor? And
Jesus gives the parable of the good Smaritan. You know,
guy lying half dead by the side of the road,
Jewish guy lying half dead by the side of the road.
Priest doesn't stop to help him. The Levite doesn't stop
to help him because they know they'll be richuly impure
if they touch him. But the Samaritan stops helps the
guy out. And I think that our first instinct is
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always to put ourselves in the shoes of the priest,
or the Levite, or the or the Smaritan, and asks, well,
which of these would I behave like and sort of
examine your conscience about Well, hopefully I would act like,
you know, the Samaritan. The way that a lot of
church fathers thought about it, though, was actually, no, we're
the guy half dead by the side of the road,
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and Jesus is the Smeratan, and these two things sort
of reinforce each other.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
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