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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Miguel Arius gives a heads up that immigration enforcement is
coming to the Cherry Auction. Is that what a Fresno
City council member is supposed to be doing, letting people
know so that they won't get deported for being in
the country illegally. This is not Trevor Carrey. This is
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John Girardi. I'm the executive director at Right to Life
of Central California, the development director for the Obria Medical
Clinics of Central California, the host of the John Girardi
Show right here on Power Talk weeknights six to seven pm,
filling in for Trevor today on this lovely Friday. Thank
you all so much for tuning in. More about what
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we're doing at Right to Life of Central California. We're
gonna have Gary Bretdefeld on the show after the three
point thirty break. All right, I want to talk about
immigration stuff. There's a ton to talk about. There's immigration
stuff to talk about. There's whether Donald Trump can you know,
be the president, Whether he can you know, be the
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president who like is able to command the armed forces
to do what he wants them to do in spite
of a federal judge in San Francisco, who says he's
not allowed to. But that got overturned. So we got
all kinds of stuff. But I want to start with
some bitter fighting among local Democrat politicians. I am holding
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in my never nicotine stained fingers. I'd rustle it, except
I'm just holding my laptop, which has this article in it. Rush.
Whenever Rush was about to read a news story that
was in a newspaper or something, he would rustle the
newspaper very aggressively in front of the microphone. Let's see
if I got a paper over here. Hopefully Trevor didn't
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need that piece of paper. Tensions boil between Arius and
dem Congress members piece in GV wire. After taking criticism
for supposedly not suppose supporting immigrants enough, two Central Valley
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Democratic Congress members are returning fire. Fresno City Council member
Miguel Arius blasted representatives Jim Costa, Democrat from Fresno, Adam Gray,
Democrat from Mersaid, and David Valadeo, Republican from King's County
at Thursdays Fresno City Council meeting. Arius, also a Democrat,
mentioned a peaceful immigration rally in Fresno last Monday and
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thanked some of his colleagues for attending. Then he turned
his attention to the Central Valley's House delegation. I am
disappointed in our federal representation as the Ice forces are
terrorizing and terrifying our immigrant community at their job sites,
at school graduations, at community centers. You have Congressmen Valideo
negotiating how severe the cuts to Medicare are going to
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be to our vulnerable families in the valley. I think
he meant medicaid. I don't think there's any Medicare cuts
that are on the table in Washington. I think he
means medicaid. You have Representative Gray announcing legislation to protect
water instead of residents, Arius said. Earlier in the week,
Gray had introduced the Valley Water Protection Act. I will
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not apologize for standing up with the needs of our
valley community, Gray said an email to Politics one on one.
That's the gbwire section that talks about politics stuff. If
Councilman Arius wants to spew misinformation and blatant lies about
my record or what's going on here, maybe he should
join Christy Nomes's press team. I hear they might be
looking for folks who have a flexible relationship with the truth.
Whoo Gnome is the Secretary of Homeland Security. Gray said
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he too has supported pro immigrant bills the same as
Costa Mention, as well as the American Dream and Promise
Act the Dream Act. He also said that he's fought
back against the GOP narrative about undocumented immigrants, etcetera, etcetera, etc. Now,
what the heck is going on here? Well, this is
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the sort of infighting and unhappiness that is happening right
now among Democrats, as Democrats are really kind of struggling
with something. On the one hand, Trump just got elected
on the back of a country that wanted deportation. So
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you've got congressmen that they wanted illegals to be deported
that you know, those Trump's kind of signature issue, and
there's polling to reflect that there's more support than ever
for deporting illegal aliens, including mass deportations of lots of
illegal aliens. But on the other hand, you've got Democrats
who fundamentally reject those ways of thinking. And I could
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maybe see maybe there is some daylight, maybe the daylight
is over exaggerated, but I think arius one to put
himself in a certain kind of spot. What Arius wants
to do is to echo the kind of Democrat way
of thinking that I was hearing two days ago when
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I was in Sacramento. So two days ago I went
up to Sacramento. I went to the state Capitol for
legislative hearing about a abortion bill. It's a bad abortion bill.
But while I was there, I was in this committee
hearing room where the Senate Health Committee was going to meet,
and I heard the tail end of the Senate Budget
Committee meeting, and oh man, they are so mad up
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in Sacramento at Gavin Newsom for his budget and it's cuts, specifically,
it's cuts to medical for illegal aliens. Newsom was the
one who extended medical eligibility to illegal aliens. It cost
way more than he expected, so now he has to
kind of roll it back, claw it back, and he
looks like an idiot, and liberals are furious with him.
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And just to for all of you to understand, the
kind of men are from Mars, women are from Venus,
Republicans are from planet Earth, Democrats are from somewhere else.
The different ways of thinking about this, The way that
Democrats in Sacramento talk about illegal immigrants. They talk about
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them as there is no distinction to be made between
illegal aliens and actual citizens or even legal aliens like
aliens who are in the country legally lawfully, no distinction
that they make.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
That.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
In fact, it's almost to the point of they view
someone's status as illegal as making them more deserving of
government largesse and concern and care than not having that status,
almost like the way that you know they do affirmative
action on behalf of well, you're part of a historically
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persecuted minority, so we want to give you advantageous treatment.
They view being an illegal alien and undocumented immigrant whatever
you want to call it, the undocumented community, they view
that as actually like a plus. It's something that puts
you higher up in their ranking of people that we
want to help and we are supposed to be concerned about.
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Like they're talking, here's Newsome having to do something to
address the disaster budgetary situation. He's put us in, so
he's he's not even kicking illegal aliens off of medical coverage.
He's just freezing it so that we won't be adding
in new adult illegal aliens to medical coverage. And the
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left is so mad, why are you attacking this vulnerable
community at this time when it is under militarized attack
from the Trump administration. That's the language I was hearing
from lawmakers. You've got Joaquin Arambula on the floor of
the State Assembly voting against not even Newsome's budget proposal,
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the more free spending budget proposal that the leadership in
the State Assembly and State Senate agreed on. Arambula voted
even against that because he's saying, like an a Rambula
in his speech on the floor. We're gonna get the
audio for it. I'll play it later in the show.
See if I can get it over to give it
over here so I can play it. Basically, Arambula is
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on the floor of the State Assembly saying that he
is there representing this community, to which I said, well,
I think there's a real serious question about whether a
California State Assembly member is representing people who aren't in
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the country legally. Frankly, it's a bit of a stretch
to say that you're representing legal aliens. I mean, legal
aliens aren't allowed to vote, like non citizen resident aliens
are not allowed to vote. Illegal aliens certainly are. What
are you talking about that you're representing them, you're trying
to protect them. It seems like a real fundamental governmental
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like how is a democracy or how is a representative's
republics supposed to work? Problem? Who are your constituents? Whom
are the Who is the group of people that you
are supposed to represent? I would think definitionally, it's not
the people who aren't in the country legally. So that
is the hardcore, doctrinaire left, pro illegal alien mindset that
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is dominant in Sacramento. I don't think it's quite so
dominant in Washington among the Democrats, but it's certainly dominant
in Sacramento. And that, I think is what Joaquina Rambula
is trying, not Nawauquin Rambula, what Miguel Arius is trying
to do here. He is trying to position himself as
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I am the true hardcore liberal in Fresno me and
maybe he's trying to set himself up for whenever Jim
Costam moves on. I mean, Arius is an ambitious guy.
You know, people don't sign up with the Fresno City Council,
you know, this term limited position that doesn't pay very well,
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that that's not their end goal in life. That's not
their end ambition in life. There they've got there's a
next thing on the horizon, all right, this is not
the capstone. They want to do something else. There's bigger
and better jobs out there than the Fresno City Council.
They're paying better, and so I think that's what Arius
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is trying to do. He's trying to position himself as
I am the real true blue, hardcore left winger here
in local Fresno government. Vote for me, and so here
he is, you know, having a press conference. This is
the other big news story. Fresno council member warms of
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possible ICE raid at popular outdoor market. Fresnes City Council
member Miguel Arius is warning that an immigration raid could
take place at the Cherry Avenue auction in Fresno. We
have learned that this weekend ICE is planning to engage
in a massive immigration raid at the Cherry Auction in Fresno.
Arius said during Thursday's council meeting, So I would advise
our immigrant community that they should stay away from the
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Cherry Auction this weekend, as they would put themselves in
their families in the most vulnerable position to be picked
up and taken out a country without due process, as
have been clearly documented in our state. Well, first of all,
I think it's an open question whether they would be
taken out without due process. I think a lot of
the people who are being picked up are people who
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have already had judgments of deportation against them, so that
they've already had their due process, people who have been
kicked out once already. Like a lot of the enforcement
efforts around the state have been sort of focused on
stuff like that, And it kind of makes me wonder
like if is Arius doing this, Like, first of all,
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how did he get this information? If he got this
information legitimately, how did he get it? And is there
some kind of I mean, my lawyer brains sort of
the wheels are spinning. Is this some kind of criminal thing?
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Like?
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Are we obstructing federal governmental action here? So on the whole,
I think this is what Arius is trying to do.
He's trying to say, you know, Adam Gray, he doesn't
really care about immigrants. He's off in Washington, DC, you know,
playing in the congressional baseball game and talking about water.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
I'm here.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Doing what's necessary. I'm the real hardcore liberal in San
Joaquin Democrat Politics. I think that's what's happening.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
This is the Trevor Chary Show on the Valley's Power Talk.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
If you want to understand why Miguel Arius is taking
to microphones to say, I heard this news that ICE
is going to do a raid at the Cherry Avenue auction.
Stay away. I'm trying to protect your families. And you're like,
what the heck this is? Is this the job of
a local government elected official to warn people in the
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country illegally away from a rumored ICE raid. It seems
like it's it's unclear where Arius got this information, and
he's not saying who he heard it from. I again,
I sort of wonder, you know, I'd have to do
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kind of deep dive legal research on whether or not
this is this constitute some kind of a crime or something.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
But I.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Find it very strange anyway, Now, if you find it
strange that a president city council member is going to
such lengths so solicitous for illegal aliens to tell them, Hey,
you know, you gotta watch out. There's this Cherry Avenue auction.
You gotta you know, stay away, there's an ICE raid.
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I'm my thesis is that Arius is trying to fit
in with the attitude of California Democrats and the attitude
that I saw at the Capitol when I was I
was there earlier this week for an abortion bill. They
genuinely refuse to acknowledge any difference between immigrants who are
here legally and immigrants who are here illegally. They genuinely
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feel like being an illegal alien is, in fact something
that should make the state be more solicitous to protect
you than not, like almost like it's a like a
you know, the way you would treat if you were
into affirmative action, you treat someone better because they're African
American or because they're you know this or that minority
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group that they they view one status as illegal as
something that's a plus in the game of intersectionality. If
you don't believe me, here's a little thirty second thirty
seven second clip. This is Joaquin Arambula, California State Assembly
member represents the chunk of the Fresno Area, chunk of
Fresno County. This is Joaquin Arambula talking on the floor
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of the Assembly. He's talking about the Joint Assembly and
State Senate budget bill. This bill it halts some funding
for illegal aliens to receive medical coverage for their health insurance.
This is You've got Gavin Newsom's budget proposal, which I
think is irresponsible. Then there's the State Assembly and State
Senate budget proposal, which I think is more irresponsible. Arambula
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doesn't even like the State Senate State Assembly proposal. He's
more fiscally irresponsible than that, more pro illegal alien than that.
Here's what Arambula had to say today on the floor
of the State Assembly. Horrible.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
We need to be a party that stands up for
the vulnerable, that stands up for the poor, and stands
up for those who are waiting up before the sun is,
who are building our roads, who are taking care of
our disabled, our elderly, and our children Hoover who often
are not fality. But here are the people's house. We
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have to do the people's work and I will continue
to be a representative for all here in our state.
And so unfortunately I must recommend that no vote here today.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
They for a lot of.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Eds to keep my mouth.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
So did you hear that he said I need to
be a representative for the people. He's clearly.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Saying like I am here to represent illegal aliens, and
so he views his job Arambula views his job, and
I think Arius is trying to ape this, to imitate this.
Arambula views his job as a California State Assembly member,
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where he is representing the people of his district, that
he is there representing people who aren't legally in the country,
that that's his job is to stand up for them.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
And I think I've got just beyond just the crazyes,
that there's a real problem there, a real problem of
like what is the purpose of government, What is the
role of government, What is the role of a government official?
Whom do they to whom are they responsive on a
practical level. Obviously, you're responsive to voters because they vote
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for you, and they can vote you out of a job.
You're responsive to citizens. Sure, maybe you can argue you're
responsive to care about people who are not yet citizens
but are in the country legally resident aliens. Okay, you
don't want to ignore them, don't want to spit on
their rights or anything, and maybe you want to do
things to help them. Okay, I cannot fathom. But clearly
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your concern is less for them than for actual citizens.
I cannot fathom. Lawmakers saying, yes, I am elected here
to represent the interests of people who can't vote, of
people who are not even legally supposed to be here.
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And he even said at one point, you know, we're
living this two tiered system of healthcare, which is.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Yeah, this is the Trevor carry Show on the Valley's Power.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Talk, joining me to talk about not about right to
life stuff, but about other stuff that's been happening. He's
had a busy week on the County Board of Supervisors
bringing attention to something that I feel like has been
happening for years and has just been totally glossed over
the involvement of Fresno County government in the Gay Pride
parade and in celebrating Pride Month in all kinds of
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ways and bringing attention to it. At the most recent
County Board of Supervisors meeting, we welcome Fresne County Supervisor
Gary Brettefeld. Good to see you, Gary, Good to see
you John.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
Glad to be here.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Yeah, I think this is my first time talking with
you on air since you were elected supervisors. So anyway,
congratulations and yeah, I think you're doing some pretty great
work in your short stint so far as a supervisor,
and I think this is one of the main things
that has sort of animated me. So tell me a
little bit about the problem. Describe the problem of what
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Fresnoe County's Department of Public Health it was the Department
of Public Health did with regards to the Gay Pride
parade which happened in the Tower District this past Saturday.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
Well, I became aware that they were sponsoring it through
social media, and then I inquired about and found that
they had spent five thousand dollars of taxpayer money to
be in the parade. They weren't the only one to
be A Department of Behavioral Hell spent five hundred dollars.
Social Services I believe spent one hundred dollars, So it's
almost six thousand dollars. And in addition to that, they
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handed out little goodie bags that included condoms and lube
and fans with rainbow colors on and all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
So this is raising two questions for me. In the
parade like yes, like marching in it.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
My understanding is they marched in the parade.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Okay, Well that I did not know. Okay, that's good
to know. I tangentially My family went to confession at
Saint Teres Catholic Parish, which is in the Tower District.
It's kint near Presdent City, and we saw people going
to the pride parade and my kids were like, oh, Daddy,
are they going to church? Only I don't think they're
going to church suite. So anyway, that's my understanding.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
They were definitely their handing out goodie bags. Whether they march,
I don't know for sure. I was told that they did.
I don't know that for sure, but they were.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
There, okay, but they were there, all right. Well, and
some of the defenses I've heard of this. I think
the ABC thirty a couple of local news outlets did
stories where they had you know, you were presenting the issue,
and then they had someone sort of the count you.
One of the arguments was, well, you know, condoms are
very effective for preventing disease, and we can get all
these people there theub the lub thing just kind of
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I mean, I don't I don't want to get into
it too much. I'm not sure what public health purpose
was being achieved, but maybe the less said the better.
All right, let let's let's move on. So what are
some of the legal problems that you found with the
county doing this. In addition, I guess the main thing
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of it seems like these county agencies were doing it
without the knowledge or approval of the county Board of Supervisors.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
Well, first of all, the people should know that the
packets that they handed out of the condom had the
rainbow colors on it, So it wasn't your tradition'll go
to a pharmacy. Here's your condom package. They had to
spend money to get that taxpayer money. I don't know
that there's a legal issue from my perspective, there's an
ethical issue of whether that money should be spent that way.
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Taxpayer money spent to facilitate people conducting themselves in responsible ways,
And you're right, the loop takes it to another level.
But the fact is, whether you're homosexual heterosexual, why are
we the taxpayers funding condoms for people. If you want
a condom, go buy it. It's your responsibility for your
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own health and your own sexual conduct. It's not like
they're hard to find. They're not hard to find. They're
very easy to find in a pharmacy. You pay for
it yourself. Why is the taxpayer via the county funding this.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Right right now. One of the things I think you
had mentioned this during the supervisors meeting was that for
a county department to be spending over a certain amount
for picipating.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
It was actually for board members to spend money anything
above fifteen hundred dollars, there's an administrative order that it has
to go before the county Attorney and then has to
go before the board. The board has to approve it.
So if each board member has to do that, why
are we allowing departments to just unilaterally go and spend
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whatever money they want. It makes absolutely no sense because
the board is responsible for everything that happens in the.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
County right well, And even like when I've been talking
about this on the show or talking about it with people,
the county county government officials don't exist in a vacuum.
There's a sort of structure of it. In America, authority
is vested in the people. The people elect the elected
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supervisors who govern, supervise the off various offices, various services
of the county. So the idea of the county, like
you can say all day long you want, well, the
county Department of Public Health they're just trying to look
out for people's public health, give out condoms to prevent disease.
But doesn't matter in my book, if it's not what
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the elected supervisors want, that you're not. You shouldn't be
allowed as a county agency to just kind of go
rogue like you're an unelected, unaccountable actor. You're supposed to
be responsive to the elected guys, which is.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
You, exactly, And it is up to the Board of
Supervisors to set policy, and that probably has not been happening.
It's going to happen now. We directed I directed the
CEO Chief Administrative Officer to come back with an administrative
policy that says any direct department that wants to spend
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money for a community event has to have prior board
approval before that moves forward. And then everybody takes a
vote and they're accountable as to whether or not they
support that or don't support that. And I can tell
you even I think the folks who are more liberal
on the board agree with me that they should have
to come before the board to have any expenditure. And
I would suspect they wouldn't even support what they did.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Sure, I mean, and I could imagine, you know, the
shoe being on the other foot. I realized the examples
of Pride Parade, but what if you had I don't know,
the Proud Boys at a gathering, or it takes some
very fringe right wing group and the president, county Department
of Public Health. So well, you know these guys need
information about public health resources. I'm sure that you know
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more liberal folks on the board wouldn't want any part
of it or would want to know in advance. So
let's go through. So you gave the proposal. Your proposal
for addressing this is basically get a list of events
throughout the year. There was also the raised that the
county supervisor meeting the problem with holidays like Pride Month.
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So you've got county institutions like my library, the Clovist
Branch of the present kind of life break, big old
Pride Month display all over the place. That's not a
thing you ever voted on. And so tell me a
little bit about wanting to address that issue.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
So there's there's the two issues. One is the expenditure,
which is going to come back, and I suspect it'll
be a five oh four to one, probably a five
to zero vote that no money should be spent until
it's approved by the board. The second issue, which I
raised and super Isaac Magzig raised, was we go into
the libraries. I see Pride everywhere throughout the library. I
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don't for me personally, I don't think it should be there.
Why that Pride? Why are they doing that? There was
D Day. I didn't see D Day in the library.
I suspect they maybe do something about Veterans Day or
Memorial Day. But I think the bottom line is I
don't think Pride Month belongs in the library. They can
have books, fine, people can check them out, but I
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don't think we should be promoting it. And they're promoting it.
They got a whole list of books Pride there, and
they got Pride you know, charts all over the library.
I think most people don't want that, and so I
think what we want to do is come up with
what are the approved holidays that the board wants to
recognize via the county. And if that is a Pride
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Month is not part of that, then my expectation is
it won't be anymore in the library like that. You
can have books on Pride, whatever, but it doesn't need
to be promoted in the library. I'd like to see
that not promoted in the library. And I think, frankly
a lot of people would yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Well, and it strikes me as you know, there was
some pushback during the supervisors meeting. Oh, you're going to
do every single holiday. You're going to tell people what
to put. Well, again, it gets back to you're the
elected supervisors. These county institutions are supposed to be accountable,
not to the unelected people who just work at the library, right,
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They're supposed to be accountable to you, because they're supposed
to be accountable to the voters.
Speaker 5 (27:54):
And let me tell you how this worked at the city. Okay,
they put the pride flag out at the City of Fresnel.
I voted against it. It was six to one. The
way they dealt with it was they came up with
a list of what are the recognized holidays or community events.
We're going to allow a flag to fly out city Hall.
We took a vote on it. I voted no. Yeah,
they's voted yeah. So they have other flags that go
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up there. So they have a list of flags that
you can put up in the list that you can't.
The same thing should happen at the county with holidays,
and the Board of Supervisors voted before I got there
that only the American flag in California flag will fly
outside those billities. Why because they didn't want the Pride
flag flying outside. And that was the decision that that
board made, Yeah, which I agree with.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Yeah, well, Gary, I really appreciate you being on the show.
If any stuff you want to promote draw anyone's attention to,
I mean, you know, no, watch watch the President County
Board of Supervisors needing you see to see some fireworks happening.
So anyway, well, Gary, I appreciate all the work you're doing,
and I really hope that the measures you're proposing here
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that they catch on. So anyway, thank you so much.
Out of the show.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
This is the Trevor Cherry Show on the Valley's Power Talk.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
John Girardi, the executive director at Right to Life of
Central California, filling in today for our good buddy Trevor Carrey.
It's quite a different world in Sacramento. I'll probably talk
about it more in the next hour, but I went
up to Sacramento two days ago to testify against a
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bad abortion bill. Obviously, my day job. As you all know,
I'm director at Right to Life of Central California. So
I got asked by some groups up there if I
would come to testify against AB forty. This is a
bad bill that basically it's trying to undo a good
thing the Trump administration did. The Biden administration was trying
to say that every emergency room in the country has
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to provide abortion services in certain ill defined, quote emergency situations.
They were using this federal law called m TALA, the
Emergency Medical Treatment and Labor Act, which had never ever
been interpreted as having any kind of abortion requirement, and
in fact m TALA has a provision in it about
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need the need in emergency situations to stabilize both the
mom and the baby. So basically Trump rescinded these Biden
rules saying that IMTALA required abortion. And this has ticked
off California Democrats quite a bit. Mia Bonta, the wife
of the Attorney General Rob Bonta, is a California assembly member,
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and she introduced AB forty, and basically I came up
to testify against it. But it's just astonishing just the
urgent insistence that they have, and they had like the
whole lineup of California based medical entities in support of it,
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Planned Parenthood, the California Medical Association, and the gal from
the California Medical Association testified. So it's the author testifies,
she brings a witness in support of the testimony, and
then I was the witness in opposition and the witness
in favor. She basically let the cat out of the
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bag that this was to target religious hospitals. That basically
what they don't like pro abortion folks don't like. They
don't like that Catholic hospitals don't do abortions, and so
they want through some backdoor way to force Catholic hospitals,
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probably Adventist hospital also, I imagine similar ethical restrictions on
it being religiously based. They want to force religious hospitals
to do abortions. That's what it is, and not just
emergency type procedures that you know, even with Catholics don't
even really consider abortion, like like removing a baby who's
growing during an extopic pregnancy or a premature delivery for
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a child when there's a really serious situation that could
result in the mom's death. The Catholic Church doesn't even
view those things as abortion. That's not what they're talking about,
because they're talking about putting the abortion pill miph of
pristone in the emergency rooms. The abortion pill miph pristone,
the way it does an abortion, it takes like two
or three days. That's not emergency. That's not an emergency abortion.
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That's just an abortion. But this is the unreality we
live in. And so I think, I actually, did you know,
here's this person that representative from the California Medical Association
totally bungled her testimony, didn't understand the factual scenario that
had prompted this particular law. She was kind of a
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train wreck. And I realized, you know what, these people
give off an air of competence up here in Sacramento
because they've captured all the institutions. There are a bunch
of dummies, you know, they have in Sacramento, just this
monolithic control over all these institutions, and all these big
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institutions like the California Medical Association, all the universities and
all of this, and all these trade associations, all these
people in favor of this legislation. All these people put
their pants on one leg at a time, ain't none
of them smarter than you or me. But they live
in this complete, utter, unreality where they think, yeah, yeah,
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I'm sure a majority of people just think it's great
to force religious hospitals to violate their dearly held beliefs.
That that's the reality they inhabit. They there, The reality
they inhabit in Sacramento is so different from the reality
we inhabit, you and I that it's it's hard to fathom.
Like they have no starting premises in common. I mean,
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we played the sound earlier in the show. Joile Quina
Rambula basically saying that he presents illegal aliens as well
as anyone else who happens to live in his district,
and therefore that's why he is voting against the budget
bill that's cutting some funding for medical coverage for illegal aliens.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
To assist that Trevor carry show on The Valley's Power
Dog
Miguel Arius gives a heads up that immigration enforcement is
coming to the Cherry Auction. Is that what a Fresno
City council member is supposed to be doing, letting people
know so that they won't get deported for being in
the country illegally. This is not Trevor Carrey. This is
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John Girardi. I'm the executive director at Right to Life
of Central California, the development director for the Obria Medical
Clinics of Central California, the host of the John Girardi
Show right here on Power Talk weeknights six to seven pm,
filling in for Trevor today on this lovely Friday. Thank
you all so much for tuning in. More about what
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we're doing at Right to Life of Central California. We're
gonna have Gary Bretdefeld on the show after the three
point thirty break. All right, I want to talk about
immigration stuff. There's a ton to talk about. There's immigration
stuff to talk about. There's whether Donald Trump can you know,
be the president, Whether he can you know, be the
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president who like is able to command the armed forces
to do what he wants them to do in spite
of a federal judge in San Francisco, who says he's
not allowed to. But that got overturned. So we got
all kinds of stuff. But I want to start with
some bitter fighting among local Democrat politicians. I am holding
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in my never nicotine stained fingers. I'd rustle it, except
I'm just holding my laptop, which has this article in it. Rush.
Whenever Rush was about to read a news story that
was in a newspaper or something, he would rustle the
newspaper very aggressively in front of the microphone. Let's see
if I got a paper over here. Hopefully Trevor didn't
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need that piece of paper. Tensions boil between Arius and
dem Congress members piece in GV wire. After taking criticism
for supposedly not suppose supporting immigrants enough, two Central Valley
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Democratic Congress members are returning fire. Fresno City Council member
Miguel Arius blasted representatives Jim Costa, Democrat from Fresno, Adam Gray,
Democrat from Mersaid, and David Valadeo, Republican from King's County
at Thursdays Fresno City Council meeting. Arius, also a Democrat,
mentioned a peaceful immigration rally in Fresno last Monday and
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thanked some of his colleagues for attending. Then he turned
his attention to the Central Valley's House delegation. I am
disappointed in our federal representation as the Ice forces are
terrorizing and terrifying our immigrant community at their job sites,
at school graduations, at community centers. You have Congressmen Valideo
negotiating how severe the cuts to Medicare are going to
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be to our vulnerable families in the valley. I think
he meant medicaid. I don't think there's any Medicare cuts
that are on the table in Washington. I think he
means medicaid. You have Representative Gray announcing legislation to protect
water instead of residents, Arius said. Earlier in the week,
Gray had introduced the Valley Water Protection Act. I will
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not apologize for standing up with the needs of our
valley community, Gray said an email to Politics one on one.
That's the gbwire section that talks about politics stuff. If
Councilman Arius wants to spew misinformation and blatant lies about
my record or what's going on here, maybe he should
join Christy Nomes's press team. I hear they might be
looking for folks who have a flexible relationship with the truth.
Whoo Gnome is the Secretary of Homeland Security. Gray said
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he too has supported pro immigrant bills the same as
Costa Mention, as well as the American Dream and Promise
Act the Dream Act. He also said that he's fought
back against the GOP narrative about undocumented immigrants, etcetera, etcetera, etc. Now,
what the heck is going on here? Well, this is
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the sort of infighting and unhappiness that is happening right
now among Democrats, as Democrats are really kind of struggling
with something. On the one hand, Trump just got elected
on the back of a country that wanted deportation. So
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you've got congressmen that they wanted illegals to be deported
that you know, those Trump's kind of signature issue, and
there's polling to reflect that there's more support than ever
for deporting illegal aliens, including mass deportations of lots of
illegal aliens. But on the other hand, you've got Democrats
who fundamentally reject those ways of thinking. And I could
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maybe see maybe there is some daylight, maybe the daylight
is over exaggerated, but I think arius one to put
himself in a certain kind of spot. What Arius wants
to do is to echo the kind of Democrat way
of thinking that I was hearing two days ago when
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I was in Sacramento. So two days ago I went
up to Sacramento. I went to the state Capitol for
legislative hearing about a abortion bill. It's a bad abortion bill.
But while I was there, I was in this committee
hearing room where the Senate Health Committee was going to meet,
and I heard the tail end of the Senate Budget
Committee meeting, and oh man, they are so mad up
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in Sacramento at Gavin Newsom for his budget and it's cuts, specifically,
it's cuts to medical for illegal aliens. Newsom was the
one who extended medical eligibility to illegal aliens. It cost
way more than he expected, so now he has to
kind of roll it back, claw it back, and he
looks like an idiot, and liberals are furious with him.
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And just to for all of you to understand, the
kind of men are from Mars, women are from Venus,
Republicans are from planet Earth, Democrats are from somewhere else.
The different ways of thinking about this, The way that
Democrats in Sacramento talk about illegal immigrants. They talk about
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them as there is no distinction to be made between
illegal aliens and actual citizens or even legal aliens like
aliens who are in the country legally lawfully, no distinction
that they make.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
That.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
In fact, it's almost to the point of they view
someone's status as illegal as making them more deserving of
government largesse and concern and care than not having that status,
almost like the way that you know they do affirmative
action on behalf of well, you're part of a historically
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persecuted minority, so we want to give you advantageous treatment.
They view being an illegal alien and undocumented immigrant whatever
you want to call it, the undocumented community, they view
that as actually like a plus. It's something that puts
you higher up in their ranking of people that we
want to help and we are supposed to be concerned about.
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Like they're talking, here's Newsome having to do something to
address the disaster budgetary situation. He's put us in, so
he's he's not even kicking illegal aliens off of medical coverage.
He's just freezing it so that we won't be adding
in new adult illegal aliens to medical coverage. And the
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left is so mad, why are you attacking this vulnerable
community at this time when it is under militarized attack
from the Trump administration. That's the language I was hearing
from lawmakers. You've got Joaquin Arambula on the floor of
the State Assembly voting against not even Newsome's budget proposal,
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the more free spending budget proposal that the leadership in
the State Assembly and State Senate agreed on. Arambula voted
even against that because he's saying, like an a Rambula
in his speech on the floor. We're gonna get the
audio for it. I'll play it later in the show.
See if I can get it over to give it
over here so I can play it. Basically, Arambula is
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on the floor of the State Assembly saying that he
is there representing this community, to which I said, well,
I think there's a real serious question about whether a
California State Assembly member is representing people who aren't in
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the country legally. Frankly, it's a bit of a stretch
to say that you're representing legal aliens. I mean, legal
aliens aren't allowed to vote, like non citizen resident aliens
are not allowed to vote. Illegal aliens certainly are. What
are you talking about that you're representing them, you're trying
to protect them. It seems like a real fundamental governmental
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like how is a democracy or how is a representative's
republics supposed to work? Problem? Who are your constituents? Whom
are the Who is the group of people that you
are supposed to represent? I would think definitionally, it's not
the people who aren't in the country legally. So that
is the hardcore, doctrinaire left, pro illegal alien mindset that
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is dominant in Sacramento. I don't think it's quite so
dominant in Washington among the Democrats, but it's certainly dominant
in Sacramento. And that, I think is what Joaquina Rambula
is trying, not Nawauquin Rambula, what Miguel Arius is trying
to do here. He is trying to position himself as
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I am the true hardcore liberal in Fresno me and
maybe he's trying to set himself up for whenever Jim
Costam moves on. I mean, Arius is an ambitious guy.
You know, people don't sign up with the Fresno City Council,
you know, this term limited position that doesn't pay very well,
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that that's not their end goal in life. That's not
their end ambition in life. There they've got there's a
next thing on the horizon, all right, this is not
the capstone. They want to do something else. There's bigger
and better jobs out there than the Fresno City Council.
They're paying better, and so I think that's what Arius
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is trying to do. He's trying to position himself as
I am the real true blue, hardcore left winger here
in local Fresno government. Vote for me, and so here
he is, you know, having a press conference. This is
the other big news story. Fresno council member warms of
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possible ICE raid at popular outdoor market. Fresnes City Council
member Miguel Arius is warning that an immigration raid could
take place at the Cherry Avenue auction in Fresno. We
have learned that this weekend ICE is planning to engage
in a massive immigration raid at the Cherry Auction in Fresno.
Arius said during Thursday's council meeting, So I would advise
our immigrant community that they should stay away from the
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Cherry Auction this weekend, as they would put themselves in
their families in the most vulnerable position to be picked
up and taken out a country without due process, as
have been clearly documented in our state. Well, first of all,
I think it's an open question whether they would be
taken out without due process. I think a lot of
the people who are being picked up are people who
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have already had judgments of deportation against them, so that
they've already had their due process, people who have been
kicked out once already. Like a lot of the enforcement
efforts around the state have been sort of focused on
stuff like that, And it kind of makes me wonder
like if is Arius doing this, Like, first of all,
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how did he get this information? If he got this
information legitimately, how did he get it? And is there
some kind of I mean, my lawyer brains sort of
the wheels are spinning. Is this some kind of criminal thing?
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Like?
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Are we obstructing federal governmental action here? So on the whole,
I think this is what Arius is trying to do.
He's trying to say, you know, Adam Gray, he doesn't
really care about immigrants. He's off in Washington, DC, you know,
playing in the congressional baseball game and talking about water.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
I'm here.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Doing what's necessary. I'm the real hardcore liberal in San
Joaquin Democrat Politics. I think that's what's happening.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
This is the Trevor Chary Show on the Valley's Power Talk.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
If you want to understand why Miguel Arius is taking
to microphones to say, I heard this news that ICE
is going to do a raid at the Cherry Avenue auction.
Stay away. I'm trying to protect your families. And you're like,
what the heck this is? Is this the job of
a local government elected official to warn people in the
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country illegally away from a rumored ICE raid. It seems
like it's it's unclear where Arius got this information, and
he's not saying who he heard it from. I again,
I sort of wonder, you know, I'd have to do
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kind of deep dive legal research on whether or not
this is this constitute some kind of a crime or something.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
But I.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Find it very strange anyway, Now, if you find it
strange that a president city council member is going to
such lengths so solicitous for illegal aliens to tell them, Hey,
you know, you gotta watch out. There's this Cherry Avenue auction.
You gotta you know, stay away, there's an ICE raid.
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I'm my thesis is that Arius is trying to fit
in with the attitude of California Democrats and the attitude
that I saw at the Capitol when I was I
was there earlier this week for an abortion bill. They
genuinely refuse to acknowledge any difference between immigrants who are
here legally and immigrants who are here illegally. They genuinely
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feel like being an illegal alien is, in fact something
that should make the state be more solicitous to protect
you than not, like almost like it's a like a
you know, the way you would treat if you were
into affirmative action, you treat someone better because they're African
American or because they're you know this or that minority
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group that they they view one status as illegal as
something that's a plus in the game of intersectionality. If
you don't believe me, here's a little thirty second thirty
seven second clip. This is Joaquin Arambula, California State Assembly
member represents the chunk of the Fresno Area, chunk of
Fresno County. This is Joaquin Arambula talking on the floor
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of the Assembly. He's talking about the Joint Assembly and
State Senate budget bill. This bill it halts some funding
for illegal aliens to receive medical coverage for their health insurance.
This is You've got Gavin Newsom's budget proposal, which I
think is irresponsible. Then there's the State Assembly and State
Senate budget proposal, which I think is more irresponsible. Arambula
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doesn't even like the State Senate State Assembly proposal. He's
more fiscally irresponsible than that, more pro illegal alien than that.
Here's what Arambula had to say today on the floor
of the State Assembly. Horrible.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
We need to be a party that stands up for
the vulnerable, that stands up for the poor, and stands
up for those who are waiting up before the sun is,
who are building our roads, who are taking care of
our disabled, our elderly, and our children Hoover who often
are not fality. But here are the people's house. We
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have to do the people's work and I will continue
to be a representative for all here in our state.
And so unfortunately I must recommend that no vote here today.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
They for a lot of.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Eds to keep my mouth.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
So did you hear that he said I need to
be a representative for the people. He's clearly.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Saying like I am here to represent illegal aliens, and
so he views his job Arambula views his job, and
I think Arius is trying to ape this, to imitate this.
Arambula views his job as a California State Assembly member,
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where he is representing the people of his district, that
he is there representing people who aren't legally in the country,
that that's his job is to stand up for them.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
And I think I've got just beyond just the crazyes,
that there's a real problem there, a real problem of
like what is the purpose of government, What is the
role of government, What is the role of a government official?
Whom do they to whom are they responsive on a
practical level. Obviously, you're responsive to voters because they vote
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for you, and they can vote you out of a job.
You're responsive to citizens. Sure, maybe you can argue you're
responsive to care about people who are not yet citizens
but are in the country legally resident aliens. Okay, you
don't want to ignore them, don't want to spit on
their rights or anything, and maybe you want to do
things to help them. Okay, I cannot fathom. But clearly
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your concern is less for them than for actual citizens.
I cannot fathom. Lawmakers saying, yes, I am elected here
to represent the interests of people who can't vote, of
people who are not even legally supposed to be here.
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And he even said at one point, you know, we're
living this two tiered system of healthcare, which is.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Yeah, this is the Trevor carry Show on the Valley's Power.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Talk, joining me to talk about not about right to
life stuff, but about other stuff that's been happening. He's
had a busy week on the County Board of Supervisors
bringing attention to something that I feel like has been
happening for years and has just been totally glossed over
the involvement of Fresno County government in the Gay Pride
parade and in celebrating Pride Month in all kinds of
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ways and bringing attention to it. At the most recent
County Board of Supervisors meeting, we welcome Fresne County Supervisor
Gary Brettefeld. Good to see you, Gary, Good to see
you John.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
Glad to be here.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Yeah, I think this is my first time talking with
you on air since you were elected supervisors. So anyway,
congratulations and yeah, I think you're doing some pretty great
work in your short stint so far as a supervisor,
and I think this is one of the main things
that has sort of animated me. So tell me a
little bit about the problem. Describe the problem of what
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Fresnoe County's Department of Public Health it was the Department
of Public Health did with regards to the Gay Pride
parade which happened in the Tower District this past Saturday.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
Well, I became aware that they were sponsoring it through
social media, and then I inquired about and found that
they had spent five thousand dollars of taxpayer money to
be in the parade. They weren't the only one to
be A Department of Behavioral Hell spent five hundred dollars.
Social Services I believe spent one hundred dollars, So it's
almost six thousand dollars. And in addition to that, they
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handed out little goodie bags that included condoms and lube
and fans with rainbow colors on and all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
So this is raising two questions for me. In the
parade like yes, like marching in it.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
My understanding is they marched in the parade.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Okay, Well that I did not know. Okay, that's good
to know. I tangentially My family went to confession at
Saint Teres Catholic Parish, which is in the Tower District.
It's kint near Presdent City, and we saw people going
to the pride parade and my kids were like, oh, Daddy,
are they going to church? Only I don't think they're
going to church suite. So anyway, that's my understanding.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
They were definitely their handing out goodie bags. Whether they march,
I don't know for sure. I was told that they did.
I don't know that for sure, but they were.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
There, okay, but they were there, all right. Well, and
some of the defenses I've heard of this. I think
the ABC thirty a couple of local news outlets did
stories where they had you know, you were presenting the issue,
and then they had someone sort of the count you.
One of the arguments was, well, you know, condoms are
very effective for preventing disease, and we can get all
these people there theub the lub thing just kind of
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I mean, I don't I don't want to get into
it too much. I'm not sure what public health purpose
was being achieved, but maybe the less said the better.
All right, let let's let's move on. So what are
some of the legal problems that you found with the
county doing this. In addition, I guess the main thing
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of it seems like these county agencies were doing it
without the knowledge or approval of the county Board of Supervisors.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
Well, first of all, the people should know that the
packets that they handed out of the condom had the
rainbow colors on it, So it wasn't your tradition'll go
to a pharmacy. Here's your condom package. They had to
spend money to get that taxpayer money. I don't know
that there's a legal issue from my perspective, there's an
ethical issue of whether that money should be spent that way.
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Taxpayer money spent to facilitate people conducting themselves in responsible ways,
And you're right, the loop takes it to another level.
But the fact is, whether you're homosexual heterosexual, why are
we the taxpayers funding condoms for people. If you want
a condom, go buy it. It's your responsibility for your
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own health and your own sexual conduct. It's not like
they're hard to find. They're not hard to find. They're
very easy to find in a pharmacy. You pay for
it yourself. Why is the taxpayer via the county funding this.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Right right now. One of the things I think you
had mentioned this during the supervisors meeting was that for
a county department to be spending over a certain amount
for picipating.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
It was actually for board members to spend money anything
above fifteen hundred dollars, there's an administrative order that it has
to go before the county Attorney and then has to
go before the board. The board has to approve it.
So if each board member has to do that, why
are we allowing departments to just unilaterally go and spend
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whatever money they want. It makes absolutely no sense because
the board is responsible for everything that happens in the.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
County right well, And even like when I've been talking
about this on the show or talking about it with people,
the county county government officials don't exist in a vacuum.
There's a sort of structure of it. In America, authority
is vested in the people. The people elect the elected
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supervisors who govern, supervise the off various offices, various services
of the county. So the idea of the county, like
you can say all day long you want, well, the
county Department of Public Health they're just trying to look
out for people's public health, give out condoms to prevent disease.
But doesn't matter in my book, if it's not what
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the elected supervisors want, that you're not. You shouldn't be
allowed as a county agency to just kind of go
rogue like you're an unelected, unaccountable actor. You're supposed to
be responsive to the elected guys, which is.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
You, exactly, And it is up to the Board of
Supervisors to set policy, and that probably has not been happening.
It's going to happen now. We directed I directed the
CEO Chief Administrative Officer to come back with an administrative
policy that says any direct department that wants to spend
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money for a community event has to have prior board
approval before that moves forward. And then everybody takes a
vote and they're accountable as to whether or not they
support that or don't support that. And I can tell
you even I think the folks who are more liberal
on the board agree with me that they should have
to come before the board to have any expenditure. And
I would suspect they wouldn't even support what they did.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Sure, I mean, and I could imagine, you know, the
shoe being on the other foot. I realized the examples
of Pride Parade, but what if you had I don't know,
the Proud Boys at a gathering, or it takes some
very fringe right wing group and the president, county Department
of Public Health. So well, you know these guys need
information about public health resources. I'm sure that you know
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more liberal folks on the board wouldn't want any part
of it or would want to know in advance. So
let's go through. So you gave the proposal. Your proposal
for addressing this is basically get a list of events
throughout the year. There was also the raised that the
county supervisor meeting the problem with holidays like Pride Month.
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So you've got county institutions like my library, the Clovist
Branch of the present kind of life break, big old
Pride Month display all over the place. That's not a
thing you ever voted on. And so tell me a
little bit about wanting to address that issue.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
So there's there's the two issues. One is the expenditure,
which is going to come back, and I suspect it'll
be a five oh four to one, probably a five
to zero vote that no money should be spent until
it's approved by the board. The second issue, which I
raised and super Isaac Magzig raised, was we go into
the libraries. I see Pride everywhere throughout the library. I
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don't for me personally, I don't think it should be there.
Why that Pride? Why are they doing that? There was
D Day. I didn't see D Day in the library.
I suspect they maybe do something about Veterans Day or
Memorial Day. But I think the bottom line is I
don't think Pride Month belongs in the library. They can
have books, fine, people can check them out, but I
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don't think we should be promoting it. And they're promoting it.
They got a whole list of books Pride there, and
they got Pride you know, charts all over the library.
I think most people don't want that, and so I
think what we want to do is come up with
what are the approved holidays that the board wants to
recognize via the county. And if that is a Pride
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Month is not part of that, then my expectation is
it won't be anymore in the library like that. You
can have books on Pride, whatever, but it doesn't need
to be promoted in the library. I'd like to see
that not promoted in the library. And I think, frankly
a lot of people would yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Well, and it strikes me as you know, there was
some pushback during the supervisors meeting. Oh, you're going to
do every single holiday. You're going to tell people what
to put. Well, again, it gets back to you're the
elected supervisors. These county institutions are supposed to be accountable,
not to the unelected people who just work at the library, right,
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They're supposed to be accountable to you, because they're supposed
to be accountable to the voters.
Speaker 5 (27:54):
And let me tell you how this worked at the city. Okay,
they put the pride flag out at the City of Fresnel.
I voted against it. It was six to one. The
way they dealt with it was they came up with
a list of what are the recognized holidays or community events.
We're going to allow a flag to fly out city Hall.
We took a vote on it. I voted no. Yeah,
they's voted yeah. So they have other flags that go
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up there. So they have a list of flags that
you can put up in the list that you can't.
The same thing should happen at the county with holidays,
and the Board of Supervisors voted before I got there
that only the American flag in California flag will fly
outside those billities. Why because they didn't want the Pride
flag flying outside. And that was the decision that that
board made, Yeah, which I agree with.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Yeah, well, Gary, I really appreciate you being on the show.
If any stuff you want to promote draw anyone's attention to,
I mean, you know, no, watch watch the President County
Board of Supervisors needing you see to see some fireworks happening.
So anyway, well, Gary, I appreciate all the work you're doing,
and I really hope that the measures you're proposing here
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that they catch on. So anyway, thank you so much.
Out of the show.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
This is the Trevor Cherry Show on the Valley's Power Talk.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
John Girardi, the executive director at Right to Life of
Central California, filling in today for our good buddy Trevor Carrey.
It's quite a different world in Sacramento. I'll probably talk
about it more in the next hour, but I went
up to Sacramento two days ago to testify against a
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bad abortion bill. Obviously, my day job. As you all know,
I'm director at Right to Life of Central California. So
I got asked by some groups up there if I
would come to testify against AB forty. This is a
bad bill that basically it's trying to undo a good
thing the Trump administration did. The Biden administration was trying
to say that every emergency room in the country has
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to provide abortion services in certain ill defined, quote emergency situations.
They were using this federal law called m TALA, the
Emergency Medical Treatment and Labor Act, which had never ever
been interpreted as having any kind of abortion requirement, and
in fact m TALA has a provision in it about
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need the need in emergency situations to stabilize both the
mom and the baby. So basically Trump rescinded these Biden
rules saying that IMTALA required abortion. And this has ticked
off California Democrats quite a bit. Mia Bonta, the wife
of the Attorney General Rob Bonta, is a California assembly member,
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and she introduced AB forty, and basically I came up
to testify against it. But it's just astonishing just the
urgent insistence that they have, and they had like the
whole lineup of California based medical entities in support of it,
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Planned Parenthood, the California Medical Association, and the gal from
the California Medical Association testified. So it's the author testifies,
she brings a witness in support of the testimony, and
then I was the witness in opposition and the witness
in favor. She basically let the cat out of the
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bag that this was to target religious hospitals. That basically
what they don't like pro abortion folks don't like. They
don't like that Catholic hospitals don't do abortions, and so
they want through some backdoor way to force Catholic hospitals,
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probably Adventist hospital also, I imagine similar ethical restrictions on
it being religiously based. They want to force religious hospitals
to do abortions. That's what it is, and not just
emergency type procedures that you know, even with Catholics don't
even really consider abortion, like like removing a baby who's
growing during an extopic pregnancy or a premature delivery for
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a child when there's a really serious situation that could
result in the mom's death. The Catholic Church doesn't even
view those things as abortion. That's not what they're talking about,
because they're talking about putting the abortion pill miph of
pristone in the emergency rooms. The abortion pill miph pristone,
the way it does an abortion, it takes like two
or three days. That's not emergency. That's not an emergency abortion.
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That's just an abortion. But this is the unreality we
live in. And so I think, I actually, did you know,
here's this person that representative from the California Medical Association
totally bungled her testimony, didn't understand the factual scenario that
had prompted this particular law. She was kind of a
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train wreck. And I realized, you know what, these people
give off an air of competence up here in Sacramento
because they've captured all the institutions. There are a bunch
of dummies, you know, they have in Sacramento, just this
monolithic control over all these institutions, and all these big
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institutions like the California Medical Association, all the universities and
all of this, and all these trade associations, all these
people in favor of this legislation. All these people put
their pants on one leg at a time, ain't none
of them smarter than you or me. But they live
in this complete, utter, unreality where they think, yeah, yeah,
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I'm sure a majority of people just think it's great
to force religious hospitals to violate their dearly held beliefs.
That that's the reality they inhabit. They there, The reality
they inhabit in Sacramento is so different from the reality
we inhabit, you and I that it's it's hard to fathom.
Like they have no starting premises in common. I mean,
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we played the sound earlier in the show. Joile Quina
Rambula basically saying that he presents illegal aliens as well
as anyone else who happens to live in his district,
and therefore that's why he is voting against the budget
bill that's cutting some funding for medical coverage for illegal aliens.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
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