John Gerardi Guest Hosts - The Defunding of Planned Parenthood

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
The most beautiful thing in the One Big Beautiful Bill
I think was the defunding of the nation's largest abortion
provider and other abortion providers like it, Plan Parenthood. But
how big of an impact is it actually going to be?
If only, if only there were like a guy who

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like studied this kind of thing and wrote about this
kind of thing and maybe hosted a radio show or something.
That person would be me John Girardi in today filling
in for my good buddy mister Trevor Carrey. Thank you
all so much for listening. My day job, as many
of you know, as that I'm the executive director at
Right to Life of Central California RTLCC dot org. I'm

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Obria three sixty five dot org. All right, I wanted
to assess what is the impact of the OBBB defunding
Planned Parenthood for one year a year, and part of

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me had been pretty discouraged by this because the original
version of the OBBB that the House passed said we're
going to defund Planned Parenthood for ten years. For ten years,
they will be ineligible to receive federal government funding. And
the chief federal funding planned parented gets is from what's
called medicaid. Okay, in California, we call it medical that's
our state's version of medicaid. So, Medicaid is a federal

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health insurance program funded by the taxpayers, funded jointly by
federal and state tax dollars. It's basically health insurance. Nowadays,
what it is really is health insurance for lower income people.
It used to be Medicaid was more reserved for certain

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classes of people for whom it would be difficult for
them to obtain health insurance any other way because they
lacked the ability to work. The s CHIP program helped
to provide for children. Medicaid was open for pregnant women
who maybe would find it difficult to work. It was

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open for certain classes of disabled people, and these were
called the legacy people within Medicaid. Well, Obamacare changed all that.
Obamacare massively expanded the doors of who's eligible for Medicaid,
and now just for everybody is on Medicaid, everybody under

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a certain income threshold, more or less, and to such
an extent that the Medicaid program it's alone is costing
something like a trillion dollars per year now because it's
mostly just health insurance for lower income people. Planned Parenthood
gets a ton of money from it, and it's basically
reimbursement to them for services they provide. So Planned Parenthood

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provides some kind of service in their clinic to a patient.
Let's say they do an std exam. They bill to Medicaid,
either medical or whatever. Their state Medicaid program is Whereverland
parent it is and they get a reimbursement for that service,
and the money they get back is a combo of

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federal and state tax dollars, most of it federal. Now,
what the OBBB did is say Planned Parenthood is basically
not a Medicaid eligible provider for a year. We're not
going to give any federal Medicaid reimbursement money to Planned Parenthood,

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to any abortion providers that fit within this kind of
description that's within the bill language. Now, I was trying
to assess, and this total was said to be around
seven hundred million dollars, I thought, okay, well, what's the
impact of that. And even I, who you know, study

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about this stuff, right about this stuff, I don't think
I had a real sense of the impact. I had
sort of thought, well, they'll have a bad year, but
they'll probably be fine, and I'm sure a bunch of
blues states will provide a bunch of extra funding to
help them get over the hump, and they'll probably get
extra donations because Planned PARENTOD always gets more donation when
people feel like they're picking on them. So when all

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the videos were released showing Planned PARENTID affiliates participating in
the selling of the bodies of aborted children and getting
money for it. And the question was did they profit
from it or were they just offsetting costs, because if
they profited from it, they were committing felonies. Their donations
went up astronomically after that story, because all liberals were

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upset that conservatives wanted to defund them when we're pointing
out their shady behavior. When Roe v. Wade got overturned,
a bunch of Planned PARENTID affiliates had a huge uptick
in donations. Mackenzie Scott, Jeff Bezos' ex wife, she one
year gave Planned Parenthood a nine figure gift just her

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one hundred mili and so I was kind of having this, well,
what is seven hundred million to plant parentids? So what
I did. Planned Parenthood is organized into what's called affiliates.
Each affiliate is a nonprofit corporation that runs a certain

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number of clinics in a given region of the country.
There are about forty nine affiliates. Some states, like California,
have multiple plan PARENTID affiliates. In other states there's one
Planned PARENTID affiliate that's covering several states. Okay, so in
total there are forty nine of these entities. They are

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all nonprofits, and because they're nonprofits, a lot of information
about them is publicly available. Nonprofits have to file what's
called the federal nine ninety tax form, which is publicly available,
and it provides a lot of basic financial information about
the nonprofit organization. How much revenue did they make in

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a given tax here, how much they had expenses, so
you can work out did they turn a profit, do
they have a loss? You can see executive compensation, so
if you wanted, you could look up rights to Life center.
You all could figure out how much money I make. Okay,
that's out there, and so this basic information exists for
every planned PARENTID affiliate. The most recent is twenty twenty three.

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Is the tax here that all the planned parent affiliates
have their information available from twenty twenty three. About twenty
eight of them have tax information available for twenty twenty four.
So what I did was I looked it up. I
looked it all up, and I put it in a
massive spreadsheet. So I've got here sitting in front of
me on my laptop. I've got a spreadsheet showing the

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name of the affiliate, what state they're in, whether abortion
is legal not legal in that state. What surplus or
deficit the affiliate made, how much revenue they made, how
much expenses they had, and then how much do they
get in what's called program services revenue, which is listed
on the nine ninety. Basically, what program services revenue is

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for Planned Parenthood is Planned Parenthood provides a service they
get and reimbursement for it, or a cope or deductible
or you know, some or maybe a direct pay or
something like that. But it's basically the money they get
for providing services. Here's what I found. In twenty twenty three,

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Planned PARENTHOODS forty nine affiliates had a combined one billion,
seven hundred and eighteen million dollars in revenue. They had
one billion, seven seventy two million in expenses, meaning they
lost somewhere around fifty four million dollars. In twenty twenty three,

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all their affiliates combined lost fifty four million, one point
seven one eight billion in revenue one point seven seven
two billion in expenses. So if we think, now, let's
assume that number is a little higher for this fiscal year,
that's the revenues would be higher. Maybe if all things

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stayed equal for twenty twenty six. Let's say it's one
point nine million. If they lose seven hundred million dollars,
that's more than a third of all their revenue gone Cyonora,
more than a third. I don't know about you. How
many businesses do you think big businesses with lots of
locations could survive even one year losing out on a

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third of their revenue. It's not a lot. And that
amount of revenue is donations plus insurance reimbursement, et cetera. Right,
nine hundred seventy eight Planned Parenthood made from their program
services revenue money for providing services all their affiliates combined

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may nine hundred seventy eight million, six hundred thousand bucks approximately,
So they're going to lose out on seven hundred million
of that nine hundred seventy eight million. That's how much
Medicaid represents, Basically, Medicaid and other federal programs represents in
the pool of what they make in program services. And

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I look at individual Planned Parenthood clinics and I can
see this scenario played out that these clinics are in trouble. Okay,
if the whole thing is losing fifty four million individual
Plan parent affiliates are losing more.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
So.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
Let's take for example, Plan Parentive Wisconsin. Plan Parentive Wisconsin
runs all the planned parenthood clinics in the state. They
have about twenty two clinics. In twenty twenty three, Plan
Parentive Wisconsin had thirty six million, three hundred thousand dollars
in revenue. They had forty one point nine million in expenses,

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so they lost five point six million in twenty twenty three.
So they had thirty six million in revenue. Twenty four
million is program services revenue, so they're getting two thirds
of their income from reimbursement for services they provide. The
big bulk of that is Medicaid money. Plan parent in

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Wisconsin reported fifty four percent of their money is coming
from Medicaid. They might lose if not most of it,
because state medicaid money might still be available to them.
They're going to lose most of that. I mean they
could lose easily twelve million dollars. They're already operating at

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a five point six million dollar loss. For an entity
that has forty million, about forty two million in expenses,
you want to lose you have forty two million dollar
per year costs and you're going to lose in one
year seventeen million bucks. You got to close some clinics.

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You gotta fire people, you got to lay people off.
That's a desperate situation. Let's go to California. Actually, you
know what I'm gonna save California. This is the Trevor
Cherry Show on the Valley's Power Talk. All right, folks,

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I'm talking about the defunding a Planned Parenthood and this
sort of research project I did. Hopefully we'll blossom into
some kind of article or something. I don't know, but anyway,
right now, it's just a Google sheet that I have
where I basically looked at the nine to ninety forms,
the publicly available tax forms for every planned parenthood clinic
group in America, all forty nine of them, all across

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the country, just to kind of get a sense of like, well,
how bad are they gonna get hurt from losing federal funding?
And I think the answer is they're gonna get hurt
really bad. So let's look at California. Now, you'd think
Planned parenthood is beloved by the state government in California.

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What bad could ever happen to them here? Even if
they lose their federal money, wouldn't the state provide them
with some extra funding or something to keep them afloat. Well,
you'd think so, but we're facing a bit of a
budget crunch right now in California, and the amount that
Planned Parenthood is going to lose in California with this
federal defunding is so much that I don't think California

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is gonna have the dough So let's check this out.
California has seven different Planned Parenthood regional affiliates Regional groups
of Clinics which Planned PARENTOED Los Angeles, Planned Parenthood of
Northern California, Planned Parenthood mar MONTI, which is clinics in

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Northern California, Central California, and Reno plan Parented Southwest in
San Diego the Plan Parentoid Central Coast. These seven affiliates
a Planned Parenthood had to combine five hundred and eighty
three million dollars in expenses and five hundred undred ninety
nine point eight million dollars in revenue in twenty twenty three.

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So yeah, abortion Planned PARENTOED is making six hundred million
dollars a year in California. That's not much money they're
making four hundred and seventy five million of their five
hundred ninety nine million dollars in revenue is coming from
quote program services, meaning reimbursement for services, and most of

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that's coming from Medicaid federal and state medicaid, which is
medical dollars. If they lose their federal medicaid funding, so
their state funding will still go through the state. State
of California is the only one that's paying for abortions
in California through the medical program. Federal dollars don't pay

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for abortion, only state dollars do.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
That.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
Still, Planned Parenthood is claiming that they would lose out
on twenty five million dollars per month three hundred million
dollars per year in state funding in federal funding. Rather,
if the federal government cuts them off, it would result

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in them losing three hundred million dollars. So let me
again put that in perspective. They have five hundred eighty
three million dollars in expenses in twenty twenty three, they
had five ninety nine million in revenues. They had like
a sixteen million dollar budget surplus. Let's imagine taking that

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sixteen million dollar budget surplus and let's subtract three hundred
million dollars, that becomes a two one hundred eighty four
million dollar deficit. Let's assume Planned Parenthood is crying wolf.
Let's assume Planned Parenthood is wildly over exaggerating how much
money they would need to make up from the loss

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of federal funding. And let's imagine that Mackenzie Scale gives
them a bunch of extra money, and that's somewhere the
State of California can scrimp and scrave and get more money.
You're still talking a nine figure loss for a combined
group of seven entities that have a budget of about
six hundred million bucks of expenses that are gonna be

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around six hundred million bucks. If you're losing one hundred
million dollars and you have six hundred million dollars in expenses,
you're gonna close something. I don't know, something's gotta give,
somebody's got to get laid off. Cause a lot, not
all these affiliates are profitable to begin with, like a
lot of Planned Parentods, I mean Planned Parenthood Marmanti, which

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is their regional affiliate that's here in Fresno. They have
two clinics in Fresno. They got clinics all throughout the
San Jauquean Valley, some in northern California and then some
in Reno. Planned Parenthood Marmanti in twenty twenty three lost
six million dollars one hundred and thirty five million dollars
in cost, one hundred twenty one million dollars in revenue.

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They're already losing money. You're gonna take a big chunk
away from that that they're already losing. So I actually
think and what's happening here California Planned parenthood clinics basically

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a lot of other planned parenthood clinics. Their revenue split
is about fifty percent donations and fifty percent program services.
In California it's eighty percent program services and twenty percent donations.
They are only sustained with our tax dollars. And this
is the part of the story that's most galling. Nobody

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has a right from on high to get government money.
No one has a right from on high to be
a participant in a government healthcare program where you indirectly
get government funding. No one has a right to that.
To be a medicaid, a medical provider, it's it's you've

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got to jump through a lot of hoops. You've gotta
qualify a whole bunch of different ways, do all kinds
of things, dupup up, and Planned Parenthood has basically only
been able to sustain and persist in their essential mission.
Their essential mission. The reason why Planned parentod exists is
to kill babies, is to perform abortions. Oh but they

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do other services, They do others. That's not that. Abortion
is the sine qua non abortion is the abortion is
the thing that is why they exist. It's their only distinctive.
It's the only reason people donate any money to them.

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If you wanted to donate to people who are good
at cancer screenings, you wouldn't donate money to Planned Parenthood.
You would donate to the Mayo Clinic or something. Okay.
The reason they exist as abortion, and it's this particularly
aggravating thing to think this whole thing was only able
to be propped up with my taxes, with your taxes.

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The only reason this machine that murders hundreds of thousands
of babies per year and playing paranoid alone performs I
think the majority of the one million abortions that happen
every year in this country. The whole edifice is propped
up with your taxpayer dollars. So again, do I wish

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it was more than one year? Yeah, But I'm actually
feeling a lot better about this one year defunding because
to think that they are so dependent on government money
that one year without is going to wreck a substantial
portion of their operation is kind of amazing. That in

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California alone they could face a nine figure deficit because
they don't have my taxpayer dollars. This is the Trevor
Carry Show on the Valleys our Talk John Girardi filling
in for Trevor. As you know, I'm the well maybe
you don't know, I don't know, making wild assumptions about

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the audience. I'm the executive director at Right to Life
of Central California RTLCC dot org. And I'm also the
co founder and development guy for the Obria Medical Clinics
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Make a monthly donation, help support our work at Obria. Uh,
there's possibility President Trump could be doing a second reconciliation.
Build sounds like the Senate is talking about it. Before
we get to that, let's talk about immigration stuff. We
got k C from Clovis. You're on the Trevor Carrey

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Show with John Groardy. What's up, casey, mister.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
Geardy, Hey, thank you for your contributions to RCL and major,
major kudos to your call screenner. He sounds like a
fantastic guy.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
Oh well, there you go, Ryan, Ryan getting the kudos.
So there you go.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
Yeah, yeah, very question. So yeah, I just wanted to
call in and talk a little bit about immigration, and
I kind of have a different spin on things looking
at it from well, I suppose you could say a
humble educator's point of view here, you know, the way
I've seen things developing over the course.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
Of with.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
Sort of the the emotional arguments and appeals appeals to
the emotion. What I've been seeing over the course of
these somewhat decades of my forty four years here as
a Fresno resident, what I've been seeing a lot of
the developments was what I kind of likened back to

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ancient history is because what better lessons do we learn
than through ancient history?

Speaker 1 (22:13):
And how I look at what lessons are we learning?

Speaker 2 (22:17):
Well from what I see is from the patrician class.
So I'm going back to the ancient Roman times and
the patrician class, the proletariats and the plebeians, and even
in our great go Roman YadA YadA, what's called the medics.
And so they were immigrants or or they were foreigners
who were allowed to work and be in the country

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and participate. But with the plebeian class, I see that
a lot of our politicians these days are using sort
of illegal immigrants as kind of a plubian class.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
Which is class, the kind of under the under class
that we're relying on for labor. And then you know,
we're letting in so many you know, the Roman case,
half the army wound up being not Romans, and that
became a pretty dicey deal. All right, well this is
a good springboard, casey, so I've got to run. But
thank you very much for that. And this is a

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good point the a lot of you know this. This
does lead me to a good rant that I want
to really get to the immigration under class thing. All right.
There are liberals who are willing to look you dead

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in the eye and say, well, who's gonna pick our vegetables,
Who's gonna mow our lawns if we tell illegal immigrants
to go away without any recognition that it's like the
most elitist thing in the world, that this is work

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that is so undignified that we must have a class
of persons do it, who who's status in the country
is so unstable as to allow employers to take advantage
of them by paying them less money and subjecting them
to horrible working conditions. That's effectively what you're saying, Well,

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who is who else is going to garden for me?
Maybe you piece? So you know what, like there's this
because that's effectively what we're talking about here is Yes,
farm labor is labor intensive. A lot of Americans don't

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want to do it. You know what else is really
labor intensive? Assembling cars on a factory floor in Detroit,
pre air conditioning that in the summer in Detroit, where
it's really stinking human That's not fun, that's really hard work.

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And Americans did it for decades now. It was American
citizens who were able to complain to their congressman, American
citizens who were able to vote, American citizens who had
legal rights rights to gather together, unionize, have negotiating leverage,

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say that, Hey, I'm not going to work for five
cents an hour, you know, I want this sort of
a salary of the living wage. Blah blah blah blah
blah blah blah blah bah. Because this is the thing
with all immigrant This is the thing with all immigrant labor,
whether it's illegal or even legal. Let's take legal immigration.

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All right, you're here on an H one B visa. Okay,
this is the krem Dela creme of the foreign guest
worker scenario. All right, An H one B visa is
extended to someone who has some sort of particularized technical expertise.
A lot of basically, a lot of like engineers from

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India come to America and they work for tech companies
with an H one B visa. Why do tech companies
like bringing them over? Is it because, as Vivek Ramaswami
moronically argued, Oh, American kids are too busy watching TV
after school and not working hard, and Indian kids are

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studying harder. No, it's because you don't have to pay
an H one B visa holder as much. An H
one B visa holder isn't going to complain about anything
because they're only in the United States as long as
they have the job. They lose the job there but

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gets shipped back to India. So guess who's not going
to poke their head above water to make a lot
of complaints, A lot of complaints an H one B
visa holder. That's why tech companies like them. It's not
because all we can't find smart people in America. You

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can find plenty of smart people in America. H one
B visa holders don't complain when you pay them less.
That's why they don't jump to another job because they
might not have another job lined up. They need you
to sponsor them for their job. So this idea that

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the left has that they are the ones who are
kind and compassionate because they want a permanent underclass of
cheap labor whose labor is allowed to be cheap, and
no small part because a large percentage of them are
in really dicey immigration situations, either legal or illegal. If

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we kick out out the illegal aliens, who will pick
tomatoes for us? I don't know, maybe someone who's paid
more fairly, someone who's not afraid that he'll be deported
and might have a chance to have some sort of
more reasonable push agriculture towards greater automation or something. I

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don't know, but the idea that you are being charitable
because you are promoting the interests of massive corporations, massive
agriculture corporations, other construction corporations, hotels, et cetera. To have
again a permanent underclass of people who are only here

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for money, who don't have the same long term investment
in the country. And it's not wrong to be here
just for money. By the way, I'm not even pass
a moral judgment on them. But the idea that you
are compassionate because you want to maximize the profits of
big time corporate employers who want to get away with

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paying their workers less. I just think the whole thing
is nuts. I think cloaking that in compassion is insane.
Who will pick the vegetables for us? Why don't you
pick a vegetab who will do our gardening for us?

(29:33):
I don't know. Go to home depot and buy yourself
a lawnmower. Try it for a little bit. This is
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There's a huge dearth of this. We have way too
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this leads to a big gap in the provision of healthcare.
It leads to more and more women seeking out abortion
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All right. Just very quickly, the OBBB managed to do

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a lot on the immigration front. It provided a lot
of funding for ice by a lot of funding for
detention areas, which is really important for asylum claimants. We
have all these people coming to the border saying I'm
seeking asylum. My life is threatened in my home. Their
life isn't really threatened in their home. They just want
to come to the United States for economic opportunity. Those

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people are supposed to be detained while their asylum claim
is being heard, and we don't have enough beds. So
OBBB is creating more beds, it's creating more immigration judges
who can hear asylum claims and clear out the backlog.
The disappointment of OBBB for me was not cutting enough,

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not cutting enough spending in all kinds of different ways,
not cutting enough spending from planned parenthood. There may, though,
be the possibility John Thune is very openly talking about
Senate Majority Leader John Thune openly talking about the possibility
of a second Reconciliation bill. Reconciliation bill. That's the kind
of bill the OBBB was. It's basically a certain kind

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of legislation that, because it's attached directly to the budget
and to spending, doesn't have to follow the normal rules
that most other legislation in the Senate has to follow
most other legislation in the Senate, to advance and to
end debate, you need sixty votes, not fifty, not fifty
plus one. Rather so that's why Trump was trying to

(32:59):
squash as much of his agenda into the Reconciliation Bill
as he possibly could. It's the only way he's going
to have a vehicle that only requires fifty votes to
get some stuff done, because ain't no way he can
get you know, seven Democrats to agree with him to
pass something with sixty votes, So this is my hope,

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