John Gerardi Guest Hosts - The Legacy of Charlie Kirk

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's the legacy that should be taken out of it?
There are different people sort of arguing about that right now,
and I want to give my little, I think fairly
uncontroversial take on what sort of legacy should be drawn.
What's the kind of legacy I think from my review
of listening to Charlie, hearing Charlie, what is the takeaway

(00:23):
he would want us to take from his death? This
is John Girardi, the executive director at Right to Life
of Central California and filling in for Trevor our three
of the Trevor Carrey Show, and then I'll be on
in the six to seven hour for the John Girardi Show.
All Right, I have been saying. I talked about this
last night. Last night I spoke for a Charlie Kirk

(00:45):
vigil event that was held at Fresno Estate, and I
made the point that I think this year sort of
book ended by President Trump's attempted assassination, in Charlie Kirk's
actual assassination, is a political moment that is going to
define the political character of gen Z of this generation.

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Gen Z, which already in the twenty twenty four election,
shifted drastically and surprisingly to the right in ways that
we're just absolutely baffling to people. I mean, it's been
just a constant trend throughout twentieth into twenty first American century,
American history that young voters tend to be more liberal.

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And then over time, as you get married and have
kids and start paying taxes, your priorities change, your worldview
starts to shift, you begin to think about things a
little differently, and then you start to vote more Republican.
And I think every generation has kind of had its

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political moment. It's sort of moment where if it kind
of had a sort of flash point of political identity
that helped form their identities. From nineteen sixty to nineteen
sixty eight, a certain kind of young Democrat was born,
and it was profoundly shaped by the Kennedys and kind
of bookended by Kennedy's election in nineteen sixty JFK's assassination

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in sixty three, Robert Kennedy's assassination in sixty eight, and
a whole generation of Democrat politicians were sort of born then,
not literally born, but metaphorically born. They were young, you know,
college aged whipper snappers then, and they became some of
the most prominent Democrat politicians who were in their sudden

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setting years right now, Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden,
Nancy Pelosi, et cetera. Joe Biden actually might have been
present during the Roman Senate. He might have been around
when Julius Caesar was being assassinated in the forties BC.
I'm not sure about that. We have to double check

(03:04):
on how old Joe Biden is at this point.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
That's a joke. That's Joe.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
Then another generation had the Reagan Revolution, and that that
was incredibly identity forming for a whole generation of people,
the anti communism of the Reagan generation, that the whole
fiscal revolution. I kind of laughed because I think it
might have been a lot of the same people who
had like a Kennedy awakening. A lot of those same people. Then,
you know, young idealistic liberals in their twenties became maybe

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forty year olds who realized, hey, you know what, I
am paying way too much in taxes, and you know what,
these communies are pretty bad people. And then they a
lot of them voted for Reagan. I mean, there had
to have been a massive bit of crossover from you know,
Kennedy to Reagan voters. Over that twenty year stretch, Reagan
was this profoundly influential, generation shaping politician. Every Republican politician

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between Reagan and I don't know. I guess the height
of the Trump era is pointing to Reagan and identifying themselves.
I'm a Reagan Conservative, Reagan conservative. Every county Republican party
has a Reagan Lincoln Reagan dinner. And I am wondering

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if what's happening right now for gen Z is a
kind of identity forming moment. It's not really an identity
forming moment, maybe necessarily for millennials like me, although I
do you know what, I have always contended that Obama
was the identity forming moment for millennials. I was in
college for the two thousand and eight election. I was

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in law school for the twenty twelve election. I was
not suckered in by the siren song of.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Barry Oh.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
But a bunch of people around me were a bunch
of my friends were a bunch of my acquaintances were
even pro life Catholics who should have known better, who
are saying things like, well, you know, if he is
able to to enact is more just like social program policies,
then that'll lead to fewer people having abortions. And it
did not. It didn't work out that, as was manifestly

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shown during the Biden years when the number of abortions
jumped by one hundred thousand a year. And by the way,
we'll talk about that a little bit later on in
this hour. New California legislation was just passed by the legislature.
It's sitting on Governor Newsom's desk, to allow the abortion
pill to be shipped to people with no patient name

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on the prescription label. Yeah, we'll talk about that a
little later on. But Obama was profoundly formative for millennials
in bad ways. All of the stuff they were imbibing
from their college professors who were so delighted that they
were voting for Obama, the sort of speech codes being enforced.

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You can't say black, you have to say African American,
which then somehow reverted back to black. You can't you know,
the shame and stigma for saying the wrong thing, behaving
in the wrong way, that so many baby boomer parents,
their kids go off to college, come back and their
kids are then getting mad at them for little things
They say that all of that experience was the Obama era,

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this formative sort of culture of socially stigmatizing people who
say the wrong things, ostracizing people who say the wrong things,
which had its height in about twenty twenty, twenty twenty one.
That was the height of things where it seemed like
the whole panoply of liberal social causes was going to

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be ascendant forever. And I think COVID had a lot
to do with breaking that stranglehold that millennial era politics
had or was seemed bound to have on gen Z.
I think gen Z got lied to so blatantly and

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so repeatedly over the course of COVID, and had their
lives turned topsy turvy. So many of their college experiences,
so many of their high school experiences, were kind of
ruined by COVID, by the stupid insanity of COVID, this
disease that was not very dangerous for college students at all,

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and they had to sit through and live through these
stupidities that it kind of made them want to question
whatever this dominant culture was. And here comes President Trump,
and here comes Charlie Kirk, And to see Charlie get

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killed in cold blood for saying a lot of things
they kind of agreed with but were a little scared
to say. To see him actually get murdered for it.
I feel like it's going to be a wake up
call for a lot of kids. So what is the
movement that's going to come out of it? What is

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the conservatism that will be born from this? I hope
it's a social conservatism. I hope it's a kind of
conservatism that's rooted in social conservative beliefs, because here's some
of the options on hand. It could just be the
barstool sports conservatism of drinking beer and looking at porn
and smoking dubes and things like that and watching college

(08:26):
football and having a good time, but fundamentally just being
a libertarian, fundamentally being like Dave Portnoy, you know, raging
on Twitter because the Supreme Court overturned Robi Wade. And
I don't think that's what Charlie Kirk would want. Having
seen him speak in person, I was really surprised, Like,

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this guy's are real Bible thumber, Like a lot more
of what he was talking about was appealing to talk
to the Bible and talking about the Bible, talking about
Christianity much more so a lot more time spent on
that than on politics, I thought, more than I expected, anyway,

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because that was the bedrock for him. Was I think
his faith was the grounding from which his political beliefs flowed.
And if you want to throw him, well, he said
this dumb thing at this time, he said that dumb
thing at that. All right, let's understand a couple of things.
Charlie died at thirty one. You know how many dumb

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things I've said at age thirty three, thirty four, thirty six,
More than I care to admit. So maybe a little
grace for the opinions he might have expressed as a
twenty year old that maybe he regretted as a twenty
nine year old or a thirty year old. The guy
was in the public space from eighteen on. But I

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do think he was sincere in and wanting his political
beliefs to flow from what he believed, and at the
core of that were his beliefs about the dignity of
human life and the biological reality that the metaphysical realities
of the human person as being male or female, the

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naturalness of the family, the family being the bedrock of society,
which wasn't only something that he talked about. It was
something that he lived. He was married, he had two kids.
That was a big part of I think what he
was offering to kids was not just hey, sign up

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for this political party. I think he wanted to offer
a sort of vision of human flourishing. However imperfectly he
may have offered it. I think at the bedrock of
it was life and basics of human anthropology. So I

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hope that that's the conservatism we take out of this,
and not even just for millennial for zoomers. I sort
of wonder about the millennial moms out there. Maybe you
voted for Obama, but you're starting to live a bit
more like conservatives. Maybe you got a tattoo back in

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the day, maybe you voted for Obama, maybe you did
this or that, but now you're at a point where
statistically speaking, there's a lot of millennial women out there
with Republican husbands, a lot of Democrat voting millennial women
with Republican husbands, and a lot of you millennial women
with Republican husbands. Your Republican husbands kind of liked Charlie Kirk,
and your Republican husband was pretty similar to Charlie Kirk

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and thought a lot of the same things Charlie Kirk thought.
And if they wanted to murder Charlie Kirk, would they
want to murder your husband too? Would they want to
take your kid's dad away from them forever because he
thought the wrong thing? I wonder how many moms are

(12:14):
thinking about that a little bit, Millennial moms, All the
millennial moms have voted for, you know, Barack Obama, Millennial
moms who are starting to have kids. You know, if
you're later thirties, maybe you're starting to have kids who
are teenagers, and maybe you start thinking about this stuff.

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I hope that the kind of conservative that's pulled out
of this is a social conservatism, because let me tell you,
it's not going to be a bare bones sort of
Reaganite conservatism of tax cuts and capital gate. You know
that there's not very much to build on.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
Look.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
I don't like high taxes, I don't like a lot
of regulation. But there is a certain old guard of
conservatism that wants to go back to this sort of
preach trump eraror where we say we care about abortion,
but we don't really do much about abortion, and what
we're really really pretty much concerned about is free trade
and tax cuts and regulation, lower regulation, and being nice
to the corporate world that is never nice to conservatives

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in return. That's not appealing and it's not what Charlie
had on offer. I think what Charlie had on offer
was something that was more grounded about how to live life,

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not just how to vote. So I hope that's what
you draw out of it. And I will say, as
a thirty something year old guy who is daily giving
his opinions on conservative thought, who has a wife and
several children, I have been a little you know, shook

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me up a little bit when I heard about Charlie's assassination,
and it made me think, you know, I'm not going
to flatter myself like I'm nearly the target Charlie is.
I have a local radio show in Fresno, California, and
I do right to life stuff. I don't do as
many kind of hostile event sort of speaking engagements nearly

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the number that he does, obviously, But it has made
me think, you know, the stuff they killed Charlie for
is all stuff that I believe. It's all stuff that
I talk about on my show when I fill in
for Trevor. It's stuff I talk about on my show
every single day, well, Monday through Friday and Saturdays. If
they'd killed Charlie for it and not cry about it,

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they would maybe not cry about me, and they wouldn't
cry for my wife and my kids. It's a sobering thing.
It's a sobering thing to think that there's this decent,
that this not small minority in our country that was

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pretty okay with it. It's a sobering thing to think.
And I think it's a something to steal the will,
to st e e l the will. What is your
response going to be to that, to that kind of hate?
I feel like it's almost impossible to draw the conclusion

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of anything other than more resolve and say, well, what
are you gonna do? I'm not gonna bend to it.
I'm not gonna give up. Hopefully I would treat others
the way I would like to be treated, and I
won't respond to hate with more hate. I don't think
that's what Charlie would want. It makes you think, it

(15:51):
makes you think. I hope that those anyway, As I'm
rambling on and on, this is.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
The Tremor Chary Show on the Valley scoured.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
Talk just really quickly here in this segment, one last
sort of Charlie Kirk thought about what sort of the
legacy that Kirk is leaving behind, What is the kind
of conservative ideals that gen Z should take from this?
I think really significant moment. I genuinely think, I mean,
Kirk's assassination is the most serious significant. It's the most

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significant I should say political assassination to happen in America
since Robert Kennedy, and I realized that sounds like way hyperbole,
but if you think about it, there have been attempted assassinations,
and there was an assassination earlier this year of the
two Minnesota lawmakers were killed by what appeared to be

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an insane former Democrat of Minnesota political guy. But as
far as national impact, I think it's hard to argue
that since Robert Kennedy's assassination, which Robert Kennedy was killed
just a couple of months after Martin Luther King was killed,
I think this is the most significant one. And I

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think whatever Conservatism gets drawn from this moment, sort of
book ended by the Trump near assassination and Kirk's assassination,
I think it needs to be rooted in social conservatism.
And here's one of the reasons why a lot of
people shifted a lot of things they believed to make

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room for the Trump era. Some people, I think, sincerely,
some people, I think, seeing which way the political winds
were blowing, a bunch of people are now all of
a sudden favor of tariffs, who thought tariffs were the
worst thing in the world, you know, seven years ago,
And a lot of people shifted a lot of things
they believed in order to sort of fit in with

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the Trump era. And maybe some of them, sincerely, maybe
the Trump era caused some people to think a little
bit more about certain things and rethink what exactly they
thought about these things. I know, I've thought a little
differently about a lot of these things. I've read different stuff,
and I've come to sort of think, well, I think
a greater I didn't really have any opinions one way
or another, frankly, on protectionism or trade or anything like

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that before Trump took office. The one thing that Charlie
Kirk never actually changed his opinion on the one set
of things he never changed his opinion on, no matter
whether it was super popular or super unpopular, were all
of his social conservative beliefs. And you know, I'm very

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glad I guess that the Trump administration is super anti transgenderism.
They were not so much that way in the first
Trump administration. The first Trump administration, we were cowering because
we thought that well, they were gonna win the trans fight,
just like they won the game marriage fight. We thought
that that was the inevitable bend of history, was that direction,

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And Kirk was holding the line on that stuff when
it was super unpopular. Even by the way, let me
note this was one of the super critical things that
I'll never forget Kirk for it. I'll never fail to
be grateful to Kirk for this was during the twenty
twenty four campaign, as Trump was getting super wobbly on

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the abortion issue because Republicans were losing all of these
elections with regard to abortion, all these state ballot initiatives
about abortion. Ohio had just passed this horrible state wide
abortion amendment to relegalize abortion in Ohio, and Florida had
this proposed state constitutional amendment on the ballot to get

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rid of the heartbeat bill that Governor DeSantis had passed
to ban abortion. After six weeks of pregnancy, and it
looked like Trump was so signaling that he was gonna
support that horrible ballad initiative. Well, all the reporting was
that who was it who convinced President Trump not to
abandon ship, who convinced President Trump to oppose that ballad initiative?

Speaker 2 (20:15):
Kirk? It was Charlie Kirk. He was the.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
Guy who went to Trump and said, you can't do this.
You can't throw pro lifers under the bus like this.
You have to stick with them. So I'll always be
grateful to Kirk for that, and I think it's evidence
of this really solid thing about his character was that
he believed the same things about social conservative issues beginning

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to end his whole time as a public figure.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
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Speaker 1 (20:50):
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other kinds a bunch of other different kinds of prizes.

(21:12):
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at Campus Point. All right, I want to talk about,
as you guys know, I'm the director at Right to
Life Central California rt LCC dot org. To help support
our work, I started out of Right to Life our

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Obria Medical Clinics ob Ria three six five dot org
to give to that. It's our nonprofit Obgyn Clinic helping
take care of lower income women in the President area
who need prenatal care so that they're not turned into abortion.
Let's try that. What a crazy idea, help women with
prenatal care. I want to talk as part of my

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Right to Life work, I've been observing this piece of
legislation that just got shoved through the state legislature right
at the end of the process. So normally the work
of the state legislature is it's a year long affair.
You introduce your bills in January February. You have to
get them through the committees and the first House. So

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if your bill is introduced in the Assembly, it goes
through a series of committees in the Assembly having votes,
and then the whole Assembly votes on it by I
think the two dates about May or June. Then you
go through the same process again in the other house,
the Senate. So goes through the Senate all the different committees,
and then it's voted for on the floor of the Senate. Finally,

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they if any amendments were made to the bill over
the course of that time, that Assembly and the Senate
has to pass the exact same language, so it might
bounce back and forth, and all of the legislation has
to get done and signed and voted on in a
non election year by mid September, So this past Friday
was the end of the legislative year for the state

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of California. Now, this bill that I'm going to talk
to you about got amended massively on September, roughly September
fifth or September fourth, so like a week before the
whole legislative session ended. After they were supposed to have

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all the hearings on this, after all the witness testimony
in favor and opposition and expert testiment, all that stuff
was supposed to happen over the course of the prior
nine months, the bill gets massively amended to be this
new craze of nationwide abortion bill. This bill AB two

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forty five, I believe it is. I wrote an article
about this for my friends at National Review. You can
check it out if you go to my Twitter account
Twitter dot com slash Fresno Johnny. You can see I'm
gonna actually retweet it as I'm doing this segment. So
what is this bill? This bill is basically to allow

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the abortion pill to get shipped through the mail to
women all over the country and to have no patient
or doctor or pharmacy name on the prescription label. Let
me repeat that they're gonna ship the abortion pill through

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the mail to women to take to terminate their pregnancy
at some point in the first ten weeks without the
patient's name on the label. So what's going on here?

Speaker 2 (24:38):
All right? First?

Speaker 1 (24:40):
What is the abortion pill? Most abortions today are not
done via surgery. Most abortions today are done through this
drug called mifepristone, aka the abortion pill. This is not
the morning after pill. It's a different drug. This is
the abortion pill. Morning after pill is the morning after

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Its goal is to prevent the release of an egg.
Although some people think it makes the uterine wall hostile
to the implantation of a new embryo.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
That's kind of its backup mechanism. Anyway.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
This is the abortion pill. It's prescribed within the first
ten weeks of pregnancy. Baby's growing attached to the inside
wall of the uterus. It cuts off this hormone called progesterone.
Without progesterone, the baby detaches from the inside of the
uterin wall. The baby is cut off from food and oxygen.
The baby dies. The woman then takes a second drug
called misoprostol. This induces labor and the baby is expelled

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from the woman's body. That's how most abortions happen nowadays,
especially since President Biden loosened the regulations around it in
twenty twenty one, specifically to do this to allow the
abortion pill to be prescribed without an in person patient
visit in twenty twenty one, instead of an in person
patient visit, which would allow you to have an ultrasound

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see if you're actually within ten weeks of pregnancy, which,
by the way, if you're beyond ten weeks of pregnancy,
your risks of complications.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Go way way up. The later on.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
It's like any miscarriage. The later it happens in a pregnancy,
the more serious the complications are. The Biden administration allowed
abortion pills to be prescribed with no inpatient, in person
patient visit. Why access Biden administration. The abortion movement wants

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universal abortion access. Any constraint on a person's ability to
get an abortion they want to knock down. If you
don't live near an abortion clinic, let the abortion pill
be shipped to you. They also knew that Roe v.
Wade was about to get overturned, and so by doing this,

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even though Texas might have outlawed abortion, they have set
up the apparatus by allowing the abortion pill to be
shipped through the mail and shipped either to your house
or picked up at a major pharmacy. They've set up
the apparatus to allow the abortion pill to be shipped interstate.
It doesn't matter that Texas is outlawed abortion. You can

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still get an abortion in Texas. You just have to
go to a shady website and have a doctor from
California ship it to you or a doctor from New York.
To protect those abortion providers in California, New York, California,
New York, all these other states have set up what's
called shield laws basically saying, California law enforcement, California courts

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are not going to cooperate with Texas, with Louisiana, with
Alabama in the enforcement of their anti abortion laws. Normally,
if you knock over a liquor store in El Paso
and you flee to New Mexico, well, or let's make
it better, knock over a liquor store in El Paso
and you flee the Los Angeles, Well, the California Highway

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Patrol will help out. The cops Andel Pass so they'll
get you. They'll ship you to Texas, or the courts
in California will say, all right, well you did this
crime in Texas, You're gonna go to Texas. They cooperate
with Texas legal authorities. All kinds of interstate transactions like
that happen where court systems or police in one state

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help out police court systems in another state. California basically
said when it comes to other states anti abortion laws,
we will not cooperate. So if you're in California you're
shipping abortion pills into Texas like crazy, Texas can't reach you,
The Texas Rangers can't.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
The law enforcement unit, not the baseball team.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
They cannot come into California and grab you to prosecute
you for violating Texas's abortion statutes. This is another layer
this law that was just passed by the California state legislature.

(29:02):
Aybe two forty five, Actually right, yeah, no, excuse me,
ABY two sixty, ABY two sixty.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
This law ABY two sixty.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
Is going to shield doctors by not even putting their
names on the abortion pill prescriptions, including and also not
putting the patience names on it. Now, you don't need
to be a rocket scientist to figure out how dangerous
that is if you don't have a patient's name on
a prescription bottle. What's the risk I'll tell you the

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risk that the wrong person takes the wrong medication. If
something is prescribed for me and I'm who am a
one hundred and sixty five pound adult male, and my
you know, eighty pound daughter who's only ten takes it
or seventy pounds. I don't know how much she weighed.

(29:55):
Seventy pounds, let's say if she takes it, well, that
might not go well. Or my you know, thirty five
pound five year old or forty pound five year old,
how much she weighs. That's not gonna go well, the
dosage is totally different for an adult man versus a
little five year old girl. And it's especially so when
you're talking about a drug that can have such a

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drastic impact as the abortion pill. There have been at
least my friend who works for the Heritage Foundation, Melanie Israel,
she's a scholar there. She's chronicled seventeen different stories of
women being given the abortion pill in a clandestine fashion
or against their will, either by a boyfriend who doesn't

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want her to be pregnant anymore, so he crushes up
MIFA pristone and puts it in her drink or some
such arrangement like that. Seventeen different stories of women being
given the abortion pill against their will. You don't think
that number is going to rise enormously if California, which
is by the way, all the abortion pills that are
going into these red states that have outload abortion, a
lot of them are coming from California. So you're gonna

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have this new wave of abortion pills flying into blue
state into red states rather with no patient name on
the label. Because at the end of the day, the
pro abortion movement in America, they don't actually support the
old Clinton era adage of safe, legal, and rare. They

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don't want it to be rare. They think there's no
reason for it to be rare. They want to publicly
fund it so that it's not rare. And every time
they want to increase access, what winds up getting sacrificed safety.
When California was like, oh, we don't have enough doctors
to do abortions, all right, let's let nurse practitioners and

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physician assistants do it. Well, they're not as qualified as doctors,
like some of them are wonderful, they're not as qualified.
You're accepting more safety risk. Well, women can't go to
abortion clinics to get it. Let's have the abortion pill
ship to them. The abortion pill is not as safe
as a surgical abortion. There's more complications. There's new research
out to indicate that something like eleven percent of abortion

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pill experiences involve a serious complication, not zero point five percent.
That's on the FDA label to assist that.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
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Speaker 1 (32:17):
In for Trevor Carrey Today, John Girardi Show, the normally
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Speaker 2 (32:23):
John Girardi Show will be coming.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
Up right after this, We're going to talk a little
bit about some of the arguing about what Charlie Kirk
actually believed, this whole kind of unseemly debate that Candice
Owens has been raised. Oh, Charlie actually hated Israel and
I have not liked a lot of that anyway. And
we'll also be talking a little bit about Pope Leo.
He has got a book coming out of this sort

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of interview he set for and a lot of interesting quotes.
Pope Leo seems so tactful. He's like the rorshack Pope.
Every Catholic is sort of seeing him and putting their
own spin on things. But I'll tell you kind of
what I think about the whole thing. The Charlie Kirk
memorial event, his funeral event, the sort of big public

(33:08):
memorial that's going to be held at the Arizona Cardinals
football stadium. President Trump will be speaking, Vice President Pencil
be speaking. I think Secretary Rubio spit like a ton
of huge heavy hitters will all be speaking at It
should be a pretty significant moment. This assistant Trevor carry

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show monda Valley's power Dog,