John Milor, Author of the Fascinating Book ”Christian Ufology”

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'd like to welcome to the show author of Christian
uf ology, John Miler. John, welcome man, thanks for coming in.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Hey, thank you for having me on the show.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
And he's from the valley right here. I kind of
promoed you a little bit, but let him hear it
from your own mouth. Give us the John Miler background,
give us that resume, go over it real quick here
for us.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Okay, So I pretty much spent most of my life
in the military, joined the Army, fresh out of high
school active duty, went to the Did.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
You know it in junior high that you wanted to
do it?

Speaker 2 (00:34):
It was kind of formulating at that point.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Was it in your family? Were you one of those.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
My grandfather was actually my dad went to Vietnam my
uncle too, So yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
I call that family. Yeah, yeah, so it almost it
was not expected. But do you feel like an obligation
to continue the family tradition?

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Well, for me, it was it was more like just
in my gut something about putting on camos seemed right.
And you know, even playing in the neighborhood, I was
an expert at just disappearing and kids couldn't find me,
you know, when we played hide and Gosik and stuff,
and I got to be kind of like a daredevil

(01:13):
into parkourp and all this crazy stuff, and something about
that military running around, you know, I got playing army.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
We would do first time you're shot thirty second, second
time you're shot sixteenth and ninety, and then you're dead.
And I was the bean counter kid. I'd be like,
you didn't lay there for sixty seconds? Yeah, well we
had a mind, didn't we. Creativity? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Where'd you go after that? After you joined up? Where
did they send you?

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Okay? So I was at Ford Word, which is closed now.
It's this weird ghost town with trees growing in the
sidewalk and stuff. So it's really strange going there. But
I was there for two years and then I went
to South Korea for a year and patrolled the DMZ
for my first two years while I was at Ford Word.
That's when I deployed to the Panamanian conflict. We went there,

(02:00):
we spent time in the jungle. That's where I encountered
this other worldly ball of light and actually communicated with
it while I was in the jungle in active duty.
So that was an interesting experience. I talk about that
in my book.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
Now we hear about drug use in the jungles of Vietnam.
Was that happening in Panama?

Speaker 3 (02:18):
No?

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Absolutely, so this is this is wartime then, and they
would have made a big thing out of that.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
But you were you were sober and all your right,
mind right, and absolutely what'd you see? Describe what you saw?

Speaker 2 (02:29):
It was about the size of a soccer ball, and
it was pure energy when you have night time night time.
It was at night time, around midnight in the jungle.
So we were out in the perimeter behind Fort Sherman,
and uh, it was about midnight, and this thing would
blink on and off right, So it would blink on

(02:49):
about a nanosecond, but it was like so bright you
could see it from like a thousand yards away down
in the jungle. When I finally recognized that there was
something come in my.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
Way, did other soldiers see it? Yes?

Speaker 2 (03:04):
So I had one guy with me in my position
who was my greatest antagonist of all time. They used
to make fun of me a lot because I've always
been kind of a magnet for paranormal type things, and
I was kind of studied up on that kind of stuff,
really reading a lot about paranormal books and paranormal phenomena.

(03:26):
I was like fox molder, right, and so they made
fun of me because of that. But now here this
thing was coming toward us, and the guy that made
fun of me the most, my team leader. He was
here at my position, so I had to wake him
up to change the shift and tell him, look, there's
something that's not supposed to exist in your world headed
our way.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
And it was.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
It would blink on about every thirty seconds, just a blink,
and it was as bright as a camera flash or brighter.
It was extremely bright.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
When you say communicate, do you mean by blinking or
some other form, some other form describe.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
So when it finally got to about thirty feet away,
it stopped, kind of like it was observing us, and
I used my night vision goggles. I couldn't see it
when it wasn't blinking, and I couldn't hear it. It
was completely invisible and made no sound whatsoever when it
wasn't blinking. But then it would blink on and it
was extremely bright. And so I, against the wishes of

(04:22):
my team leader, who was freaking out, told him I
wanted to communicate with it because it wasn't ball, lightning.
It wasn't swamp gas. I knew all these other things right,
and I'm like, it's not this. This thing is not
supposed to exist. I have to introduce myself to it.
So this was like my James T. Kirk moment. You know,
I had to do first contact here. So I went
and introduced myself. I said, I, you know, never mind

(04:44):
the M sixty over there with a bunch of amah,
I was a named sixty gunner. I said, I actually
mean you no harm. And you know, I disarmed myself
for this introduction, right, and a feeling came over me,
and it was intense feeling of being watched. And I
could feel when this thing was moving, and I knew

(05:05):
where its location was, and I felt it fly over
my head when it was invisible, and I lifted the
night vision goggles and I did a one eighty. I
turned completely around, and I said, the next time it flashes,
it's going to flash right there, and I pointed at
a location where I felt it move and where I pointed.
When I said the word there, it blinked on Q.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
I would have run and gotten under my military bunk
bed with my machine gun nestled up next to my chest.
But did what was your reaction after?

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (05:35):
I was fascinated.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
I was just babbling and talking and my team leader
he became catatonic at that point.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Okay, so somebody, okay, it freaked some people out. Yeah,
oh yeah, did you make a report on this with
your superior.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
So it did a three sixty sweep on our position,
blinking as it went, observing us from every angle, and
then it went down into the jungle toward two other positions.
I brought it up the next day because nobody was
saying anything and everybody was quiet, and one guy and
I was like, it went to your position. Did you
see it? And he's like, I think I might have
seen something, but that's all I could get out of him.

(06:09):
And then the other guy said, oh, I think it
was a firefly. And I said, it was the size
of a sucker wall. And we've been seeing fireflies every
night since we're here. That was not a firefly.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
And you know it well, John, you have a bachelor
of two masters. You retired chief of Cyber Operations or
US Western Narrative INSE sector along the route. If you
told this story out loud, I'm sure that would have
people would have how did you keep were you loud?
I mean you were on coast to coast and all
this while you were in the military. Were you was
vocal about this? Or would it have been hard to

(06:39):
rise up like that, because don't they try and suppress.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
That in the army. When I brought it up, my
team leader said, oh, I know exactly what it was,
and everybody was quiet and they were looking at him,
and then he said, you summoned it. And then they
started making jokes about me being a wizard and where's
my my like.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
The governor of Arizona holding a press for the lights
of Phoenix coming out just like an alien. And then
later on said no, that I exactly freaked me out.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
I know that guy was was terrified out of his mind,
but he was roasting me. And then they all started
capitalizing on jokes and roasting me. And I already had
a reputation and.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
Was have you seen anything since then?

Speaker 2 (07:20):
I've experienced all kinds of things in my life.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Let's get into the Christian aspect, Christian ufology. The story. Guys,
you just heard John describe about the blinking light and
the energy and the feeling and knowing I have heard
countless people. You two knows me John better named by
this side of the Mississippi. I have seen so many
of those blinking orb lights, those lights that move quick

(07:44):
around the sky, and people are like, did you see that?
I mean they're astonished. You know, if they're faking it.
There's not that many good actors Hollywood. That's Hollywood can
fact that emotion. Not real people. It sounds fake when
it's fake. This is people purely. A lot of them
are scared. A lot I said, they've had the sense
of being watched as well. I mean this is across

(08:04):
the country. Are you feeling almost now a little solidified
in your belief by being spoken like this and being
discussed in Congress? Yes.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Even though my first book, Aliens in the Bible, and
especially after that Aliens in the Anti Christ, I said
that there will be open public disclosure of et life.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Now I knew you were going to have an answer
for it. Yeah, let's start at the basic element here,
Christian ufology. That almost sounds like a cult. Explain it.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
So if anybody's familiar with the show Ancient Aliens.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
And I'm not calling you o cult leader, I'm saying
that sounds like, okay, that show.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
The guy claims to speak for all ancient astronaut theorists,
and he does.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
What does that mean ancient?

Speaker 2 (08:54):
It goes all the way back to Eric Vondoniican Chariots
of the Gods, where they connected that he connected the
dots that angels and aliens are the same thing, and
it goes into this ancient astronaut theory and they have.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
Good angels, not demons, not down angels.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
Ancient astronaut is like Etis came here long long ago,
and it's it's in our archaeological records.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
You see it. It's Egypt, it is, it's in Mid
Middle the Mid Ages, the paintings.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
It's everywhere, and it's in ancient writings. They quote from
the Bible all the time. And that's what gets me
is because they take this phenomenon that is in pretty
much every religion of the world, an element of it
at least, and then they like to say that everybody,
all these religions are making a mistake. It's not God
that created everything. It's eties and they seeded life on earth.

(09:48):
We come from them, and they're gonna come back and
they're going to clarify this, and we need to wake
up and snap out of it and get away from
religion and accept the truth. And the thing is, you know,
a lot of the research that they do on that
show is over six hundred episodes I quote from that.
I'm like, yeah, I think they're right on the money
about a lot of things.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
So when you say episodes, so people understand you're talking
ancient aliens and History channel that ran for all those seasons.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
Correct, Okay, correct, And I think that they're right about
a lot of stuff. But the part, you know, extracting
Genesis two seven, God created Outam an eve. Right, God
created Adam from the dust of the year that I
believe that's in the Bible. God created us in his image.
Why would you want to get rid of that? And
it's very clear in the Bible. God, the same Elochime

(10:36):
who created the heavens and the earth, created Adam. So
you know that's our creator. And so they're confusing people.
They're throwing this out, you know, trying to redefine God
and demote him to an et. And so what I'm
saying is I wrote this book to say is possible
to believe in ets? My great grandmother saw it one

(10:57):
over one hundred and ten years ago, so you know.
And she was a firm Pentecostal. My great grandfather was
an evangelist, a preacher for like since John.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
I said, if I ever see something, I'm quitting my
job and starting the podcast in my basement somewhere. Yeah.
I mean, I and my whole life is a kid
loving space. I remember my dad was doing news in
West Memphis on the other side of the bridge, and
my mom and we were a little kid. She was
driving across the bridge and we're probably listening to him
on the radio, but they're talking about a UFO spotting.

(11:27):
I was like seven, and I remember after that, every
day going over that bridge, I'd be looking for a UFO. Yeah, everywhere.
And I've always especially recently with all these sightings at night,
I've gone out in my backyard in the last few months,
and I haven't seen anything. Yeah, a lot of people
have though, Yeah, so UFO.

Speaker 4 (11:47):
You know.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
I've seen stars that looked like a falling star and
then zigzag around and you know, do weird things. I've
seen that, but that's not much what my grandmother saw.
My great grandmother saw on the plains of Kentucky before
she had ever seen a vehicle was a straight up
cigar shaped vehicle about thirty feet long, floating above the ground,

(12:09):
maybe thirty feet above the ground, at a transparent dome
on top. And it was broad daylight on the plains
of Kentucky. Her and her sister were there just staring
at this thing as it cruised by, just a short distance.
It was so close they saw him turn his head
and look at him as he flew by, and then
it went over these bluffs and zipped off into the
sky and disappeared.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
Nazi technology we were testing out of Lexington Air Force face.
How much do you attribute to Wow, that's not from here,
and wow, our government might be really ahead of anything.
We're even comprehending both.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
I believe we have apprehended a lot of this technology
over the years, and we've been reverse engineering it, and
our stuff is at least on par with faking being
some of their stuff.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
There's movement, and it's above military basis. My guest is
John Miler, Christian ufology. We're going to come back and
delve into the Christian.

Speaker 4 (13:07):
Aspect that nineteen about seven miles stop.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
Let's the field like transitioning Delvia Northiast Fountain medslight it
Betterson Tower, use extreme caution for heavy UASH movement on
the base. Security Forces is handling the situation. Suggests that
are above seventeen hundred AHL what all of this as
a zero three three zero ZULU for a heavy unknown

(13:33):
US activity. Security Forces is handling it and Columbus is
going to starilized the aerospace. After you leave the Delta
aircraft use extreme caution. Patterson class Delta is now closed
for heavy UAS activity.

Speaker 4 (13:46):
Insist that Trevor Cherry show on the Valley's Power Dog.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
Right to left to right in a blank kind.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
Of freshly lass three four times event. Okay, Well, I
had an airplane cross right the left seventy five and
now there's another one that triple seven up there high
off the right side.

Speaker 4 (14:06):
That's its center.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
The twenty eight that might be goes to aircraft. I'm
not sure this thing with one and eighty.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
Degrees in luck a second, that's the pilot. This thing
when one hundred and eighty degrees in a second, No,
it's not another airplane. Like to welcome back. He's in
studio author of Christian uf ology, John Miler. John Let's
jump right into the first let me ask you the
yes and no questions. Is there something else out there? Yes? Okay,

(14:32):
what's your view of that? Coming being a Christian.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
I do believe that it's possible to be a Christian
and believe in ets. The ets are not just extraterrestrial,
they're also interdimensional. That we live in a multiverse.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
It's a spiritual battle, so that means there's spirits. If
you're a Christian, you believe the scriptures that it is
a spiritual battle. It's not against Gavin and Kamala and
putin humans are controlled by spirits. But there's something out there. Now,
would you say what that is? Do you think it's
demons in disguise as ets?

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Demons actually are the ghosts of the nephyline. When you
actually look up the words in the Hebrew, the word
rafieme translates as shades and spirits. And also giants and
the Nephylene were hybrid. They were part human, part angel,
and those come from going back to Genesis chapter six.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
When you reach it, can I give by your sunny
school reminder, David and the Nephelum. We could have easily
have stated that right, correct, correct, Goliath Goliath, the giants,
and it was a half breed. Hey, how about in
America the late eighteen hundreds early nineteen hundreds of newspaper
clippings of these astronomically huge people. They would make Shaquille

(15:48):
O'Neil look like a midget.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
Yes, they're global.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
Yeah, it's all in these mounds they built with all
the skeletons. I mean, it's out there. It's a fact
that there were once really really huge people.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
Correct, and the Smithsonian actively sought these out to get
them out and get rid of them. There's actually an
account that they took a bunch of these relics and
they dumped them off of a barge into the ocean.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
I have a like Osama bin Lad off a ship.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
They didn't like these bones, And if you can imagine
what it might be like to have bones of an
actual demon in your museum and the problems that might
cause just being around them, I could see that might
be a reason why they did that.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
Now, for those that don't know, the Old Testament and
the description was that the fallen angels that went with
Lucifer decided to cross over a realm that they should
not have crossed, and the women were beautiful and babies
were born correct read Genesis six. And that's why the
flood had to have.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
And that's why the flood came. Because these other worldly
beings integrated with society, gave us knowledge we weren't supposed
to have, corrupted us, accelerated our corruption to the point
that it led to the flood of.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
Noah taught women about lipstick.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
Yeah, that even that sorcery. I mean not all the
stuff that they taught arguably was bad. I mean they
showed like how to heal, they showed how you know,
all kinds of you know, musical instruments.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
Now the show you talked about ancient aliens. Of course,
I've watched that. The building of the pyramids, Yes, assisted
by when you look at down in Chile, up in
the mountains up there, from overhead, these weird walled angle
things suddenly take on a They make a picture if
you look at it from above looking down. Who designed that?

(17:38):
And why would they design it? Be for somebody above?
Right lines of nasca? Is that what they call I
just have seen some. It all blurs all the stuff
I watch, But the overhead, how amazing it looks like? Yes,
and without a computer generated layout back in you know,
the it would make.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Sense that the people were appealing to something above and
they put a lot of effort into creating some artwork.
Something from above would be able to see it.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
So you would see this as in a spiritual battle
of demonic influence to make people think, oh, they're good,
they're they're the angel of light, which Lucifer is the
Angel of light, and we're good and see ah, that
destroys Christianity. Bam blows it up. Look, there's other people
out there. We're not alone, and this is the intelligent life.
Is that I'm picking up? Kind of what?

Speaker 2 (18:23):
Yes, that's that's part of the strong delusion mentioned in
Second Thessalonians. It's it's a significant part of it because
it undercuts world religions. But it's it's only part of
the story because there are good guys out there too.
You know, there's good angels, right, So there's good guys
out there. The Bible even talks about it. Angels have chariots. Second,

(18:44):
you know, Second Kings to eleven, Elijah was taken up
into an angelic chariot like whipped them right up off
the ground and attractor beam and off to heaven. He went,
that was a good guy, Ezekiel. Chapter one and ten,
those were good guys.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
So I don't know the verse, but I know somewhere
in revelation angels are going to be shouting up in
the heavens in the end times, right.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
Yes, Replation fourteen six.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
What do you make of those weird trumpet sounds around
the world as well? Those weird very well going off
around the world. I mean, guys, this is all of
course on YouTube, but yeah, it's part of these manifestations.
They're tuning up, they're doing a little practice. Yeah, they're
doing a band. They're doing a little bit practice. I

(19:29):
want to get back to the Nephelin, but we're going
to do it after the break for those. I just
got a text here from my mom back instead, and
so he said, hey, Dad just bought his book on Amazon.
Go ahead and and tell everybody the lineup which one
would you like for them to buy first? You got
a couple of books, okay, So go for Christian Uthology.
My website for that is Christianeuathology dot net. And my

(19:51):
other book, The Strong Delusion, is at the Strong Delusion
dot Net. All right, let's come back and talk of
that ufology and that string, that strange delusion. Uh. When
the disciples asked Jesus about the end times, didn't they
say what should we look out for? And wasn't the
first words that came out of his mouth? Do not

(20:11):
be deceived? Correct? See I know mine too, and masquerades as.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
An angel of light, and the other fallen angels do
so as well.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
I've watched the Chosen. Yeah, I'm up, I'm up on
my the thank you, We'll coming back. John Miler, the
author Christian uf Ola.

Speaker 4 (20:28):
G this is the Trevor Terry Show on the Valley's
Power Talk. Okay, well I had an airplane.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
Cross, not an airplane there, air traffic guy. These pilots
are saying what they've seen. My guest, John Miler. Christian
uf Ology is the book. He's from Fresno. He has
been in the military. He retired from his position of
chief or Cyber Operations for the US Western Air Defense Sector.

(21:01):
And you heard his story if you missed how at
a young man as a young man in the military
down in Panama. It was a Grenada, Panama, Panama, Panama.
Podcasts available Power Talk ninety sixty seven dot com youne
catch the first part of this interview and John get
the website again. So people for the book.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
Here, Christianeuthology dot net and the Strong Delusion dot net.
I also have an author website. My name John Miler
dot com. That's John m I L O R dot com.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
I'm just gonna say, duck dot go John Miler. Yeah,
a John, Congress, I'd just been amazed. You know, what
was it called the Blue what was that history channel
about the nineteen fifties in the UFO, The Blue File
or the Project Blue Book. Project Book was actually thing.
I mean, we're now finding out how much the government
was involved in wanting to know what's out there. Were

(21:56):
you surprised at the video footage being shown in Congress
of these orbs that we're unexplainable diving into the water
in front of fighter jets.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
Yeah, yes, and no, I know that it's going on,
and I know that there's going to be disclosure in
the future because of what Jesus said, But in terms
of actually seeing it and you know, wanting to be
alive during the day when public disclosure becomes a reality,
I mean, I was kind of surprised at that.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
Do you see a worshiping aspect becoming involved in alien
worship worship because if they have powers beyond well, the
early humans did it, Yeah, so why wouldn't we do that?
Now you see how secular the world's going in anti
anti Jesus, which is anti Christ.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
Yes, Jesus said we would see a return to the
days of Noah. So you know, when they asked him,
what's it going to be like when you return, he said,
it'll be like the days of Noah. So out of
all of human history, he singled out that time in
history where the Watchers, the sons of God, descended on
Mount Herman, integrated with human society, and then spawned these
nefeline and that is insane. And he said that's what

(23:07):
it's going to be like when he comes back.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
Yeah. And if people are thinking John Miler's making up
a word, it's in the Bible. It's in the Hebrew translations.
Right when they then they call them the mighty men
of old or renown. I guess that meant knowledge, but
their strength as well. From a lot of that, I've
kind of dabbled into it, unlike your book here, I
can't wait to completely dig in here. But it seemed

(23:32):
like they weren't real good people either, right, you didn't
have a We don't know a lot about them, but
the fact that they would have that evil in them
half you know, Halffield, half McCoy.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
Yeah, Genesis six four says that man at that time
dwelt upon evil continually only, which is pretty bad.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
Right. I'm sure Charles Manson at least had a decent
thought once in his life. Yeah, exactly. Wow, this is
something now I've always wondered, John. My dad's a preacher,
so I'm a preacher kids. So I was in church
quite a bit, and I would hear about the rapture
and I'd be afraid that it might happen. And I
didn't get to grow up and be old enough to

(24:12):
have kids. I remember thinking about it like that, when
i'd hear somebody say it's coming soon here. But I
always thought, how are they going? How would the world
ever ever explain a pilot disappearing, members of Congress, disappearing,
people in their cars, disappearing because they're going to have accidents,
they're going to have fatalities, that it's going to be

(24:33):
utter chaos. But I'm so glad I get to ask
you this because this first time I've really said it
out loud. Do you think that's how like the rapture
could be explained, that these aliens got rid of the
people that wouldn't go along the I think that's a
doubt or maybe something like that.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
And yes, the ironic thing is it will be a
mass alien abduction. You're talking about, you know, a whole
fleet of angelic beings coming here to this planet.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
But we'll here. I always think kind of dark, not
not good.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
These are good guys. There's good guys out there. Not
all the angels were deceived, right, And they'll come here
in their angelic chariots and they will abduct the believers.
It will not be a bad thing. It'll be an
act of mercy on us. It'll be taking us out,
sort of like Abraham and Lot and you know a
Lot and his family being taken out of Sodom and

(25:23):
Gomore before that destruction.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
Yeah, that will happen, hopefully.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
And the world to see that, the world to see
that as a hostile action. And so seven years later,
when we're coming back with Jesus, then they'll see that
as a hostile action and they're like, oh, okay, hey,
remember what happened. Now they're coming back, so we have
to fight them, and this will be the catalyst that'll

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align everybody and it'll be like Independence Day, except the
dude in charge here on Earth fighting the aliens will
be the bad dude, and the aliens in this case
will be the Saints with Jesus.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
And if you're picking up Buddy's sewing, John is not
saying these aren't his beliefs that this is in the scripture.
I mean, you can go tonight, pull out your Bible
and everything that you've been saying is right in there.
I always thought it would be terrifying to have lived
through that time. If you had to go to Vegas
and be a gambling man, would you say if you
had to put a nobody no man knows the day

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nor the hour, if you had to do a nine
inning baseball game with the ninth inning being here comes
the Anti Christ and the world is gonna the days
of no are really here? Are we are we in
spring training? Are we in the first inning? Where do
you think you guys are in there?

Speaker 2 (26:36):
Back in Jesus's time, they called it the last hour,
and we're on the bottom of the eighth. So we
we have to be like in the last second.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
The last of the second in the last of the
second inning. Yeah, you're saying if.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
The last hour was two thousand years ago, we have
to be in the last second.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
It's just you're saying the last too close right to
the end. You're not saying the last of the second inning.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
You're saying the last second as in a second on
the watch.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
Three balls, two strikes, two out the bottom of the night.
Here's the wind up in the pitch on the way.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
And the ball is in the air.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
Ah Okay, we're all gasping. Yeah, well, that's guess an
exciting time to be alive. Of course, if you believe
the Bible, you believe that God orchestrates our leaders are
elected officials. However, you want to look at it around
the world, Nothing that happens in the world doesn't go
through the through his fingers, right as we've seen. So

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I've always thought for the world to get to the
point where the Bible predicts prophesies that it will be,
that's gonna be a lot of evil people having to
be elected. Yes, yes, yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
We're seeing that. I mean days of Noah also includes
rampant you know, celebrating sin and redefining right and wrong
and all of that, and not like we haven't seen
a lot of that, but you know that, you know,
the heavens will be shaken, and you know, returning to
the days of Noah. That's also part of it. But
there's also all kinds of things that you Frady's rivers

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drying up, and the pandemic. You know that one of
the horsemen. There's just so many things you can look at.
The AI is Revelation thirteen. The image of the Beast
is a man made thing that can talk, walk, think, speak,
and it's put in charge of the global economy.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
You describe youwsome almost Yeah, you're right. I always wonder
what that might be a hologram. I was thinking, what
what would that be? An image that's in everyone's existence,
a man made intellect, which that's AI. Yeah, and people
marvel about it and they will be in all of
this thing. Oh, we're in the infancy of that though. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
Yeah, and your cell phone this is precursor to the mark.
It's it's a global tracking device.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
You know what. I've noticed that they're actually getting us
in the physical practice of taking our hand with our
phone in it all right and doing the dude, just
paying with that whatever's in our palm, it's not in
in our palm, it's on the top of our but
it's just that, dude. And then little kids look up
and see mom and dad going dude, dude. And then

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so when they, you know, get their bank account, well,
we just got this new thing first where you can
well they're already doing it in Europe at nightclubs. They
can do it right now. And I'm glad you brought
up the mark of the beast. When I used to
in the eighties, when I was a teenager or whatever,
listening to some sermons about this, I'd like, okay, buy
or sell without that? How you got to buy a

(29:30):
hot dog at Dodger Stadium without money? I remember having
that thought, how can you? And today they might not
even take money.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
So in John's time, when he wrote that, they had
leoticia where you would have to just to buy or
sell anything there you had to take a mark and
burn incense to Caesar and he was worshiped as a god.
So you know, there was a there was a relevant
piece of that that was going on then. But Prophecy
echoes it repeats there's multiple Antichrist, but then there's a

(29:59):
man anti Christ. Right, That's just one example, but that
mark is another example, because there's elements of it that
I think are coming back, and we're looking at it
right now, and I think it may eventually materialize as transhumanism.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
Explain, So this is the integration of.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Computer technology with humans, and you know, I let it go,
let it do what it wants, and it'll eventually surpass us,
and the only way we'll be able to compete with
it is to augment ourselves with it, and then we
will be kind of like God's.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
Well, they're already talking about it, Yes they are. Do
you think Elon Musk is a wolf in cheafs clothing?

Speaker 2 (30:40):
I know he's looking into into the transhumanist humanism aspect
of it. I don't think he is putting two together
to see that maybe that is part of a beast
system that's coming. So yeah, I'm not. I don't think
like consciously or deliberately he's doing anything evil in that respect,

(31:01):
but I think that it may end up materializing in
that form.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
My guess. John Miler, author Christian Uthology, John, are you surprised?
I'm pleasantly surprised to hear conversations happening about in time
prophecy between Tucker Carlson and Joe Rogan having people on.
I mean, they're they're talking about it today and that
that didn't used to happen.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Yeah, yeah, I especially like Tucker's story about where he's like, yeah,
I know that their demons are real.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
Wasn't that something he's talking about? The scratch marks on
his body? Exactly? So if you think John's uh a
nut job for talking about seeing a glowing light in
the jungles of Panama, Tucker Carlson had a force in
his room that was attacking him.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
Yes, yes, I know what that's like too. By the way,
that's it's no fun.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
We'll tell it, man. You can't just say that and
not and not tell me.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
I've done exorcisms before and it's it's pretty freaky and it's.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
Real with other people supporting you. Yes.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
And I have a friend that was in deliverance ministry
for seventeen years and the story that he has just
one story after another of things that would just shock you. You
normally hear stories like that, stories like that only from missionaries,
But this stuff still happens here in the United States.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
Oh yeah, how can you not believe in spirits? My
friend I had here years ago was a sergeant at
Corcoran State Prison, and when they do sell extractions, they'd
have to film it all and bring everybody in and
strap them down if they were acting a fool and crazy.
And this guy was so violent to had him strap down,
and a nurse came in to check in to make
sure he was okay from the extraction, and he just

(32:43):
went calm, looked at her and started telling her about
the sexual abuse when she was a little girl that
happened to her. And she just dropped her stuff and
ran out of the room crying, that's a demon. Yeah, yeah,
I met boy, that is the most demon story that
I know. But you've obviously seen that and worse.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
Uh yeah, I mean I had a personal friend that
was a ghost hunter because I used to be into
that stuff too.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
But should you be out seeking them though? No, you learned, okay.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
I mean, if you're going to go to a place
to do an exorcism and and clean it, you know,
that's that's one thing, you know, that's that would probably
be God's divine anointing. For the person that has that ability, uh,
you know, and then that would be the reason why
that person would want to go to such places. But
you know, to go to a graveyard, you know, just

(33:33):
to take pictures of ghosts. No, you're just basically asking
for trouble doing that. And yeah, that's that goes south
pretty quick. Your house will get invested eventually if you
do that.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
Person Ufology, John Miler is his name. I'm going to
come back and ask him what he thought of the
Trump administration's latest response to the quote New New York, Jersey,
New Jersey, drones and across America more with mister meller Neck.

Speaker 4 (33:58):
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Talk can't handle the truth.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
It sort of applies to my overall audience because for
most new Agers, I'm too Christian, and from most Christians,
I'm a little outside the boundaries of normal you know, discussions.
So you know, that's that's how that applies, because I'm
trying to like show Christians that there's other ways to
interpret scriptures. So when things start happening in the future

(34:28):
that are hard to reconcile that I have already did
a lot of homework and show them that there's other
ways to look at the Bible to understand that there.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
Could be e t life.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
Even C. S. Lewis speculated and wrote an essay about it,
so you know I'm not alone.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
Did see us Lewis think it spiritual aspect and you
had good and bad up there?

Speaker 2 (34:50):
Correct, same thing. It's it's all integrated. Part of it
comes from the understanding of the word heaven. It's it's
a plural word. In almost every instance of the use
of the word heaven, it's plural. So when you see
a scripture like Colossin's one twenty, you see this and
you have to try to figure out what did Jesus

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mean because he died on the cross to reconcile to
all life here on earth and life in the heavens.
It literally says that that there's life in the heavens
that requires reconciliation with Jesus.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
Would that be well, that angels are already good, aren't they?

Speaker 2 (35:28):
Angels are? But there's beings out there that are not angels, saying.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
Well, they downfall and they can't be forgiven, they can't know.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
But what if they're like us? What if they are
not angels. Yet, what if they were like Adam and Eve?
They were, they sinned, So they have sin and death
on their worlds too, and they're looking for.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
You, adding that heaven's in there. It's in there. It's
in the Bible. He died for all those on earth
and in the heavens.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
And in the heavens, reconcile in the heavens.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
What's the scripture there?

Speaker 2 (35:57):
That is Colossin's one. So and having made peace through
the blood of his cross, by him, to reconcile all
things unto himself by him, I say, whether they be
the things in earth or things in heaven, and heaven is.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
A plural world. All right, what do you think the
White House saying, Oh, no, all those things had the
blinking lights on them. They're fine. The new Press Secretary
Levitt said, that's directly from President Trump. Nothing to worry
about up there. I've seen these white orbs like almost
have little orb babies, Like they just drop them off
and form lines of ten.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
Years in and they split up into pieces and then
they remerge together and they're fast. Yeah. Yeah, of our
fifteen thousand mile an hour estimates.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
It would scarce if they told us the truth that
the government did when they would freak out society.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
Uh yes and no, a lot less now and we're
a lot more ready for it.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
I can't believe we're talking about the super Bowl with
things in our skies like it's no big deal. We
just keep moving right on along exactly.

Speaker 4 (37:00):
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