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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, it's tu Cloud in for Trevor Carey, filling in
on his beautiful Monday. As we move into the second hour,
and we have we have someone that's sitting in front
of me that if you want to raise a tax
in Fresno, and you hear his names on the other side,
you quake in your boots. There's a few fine businessmen
this town that have spent millions and millions of dollars
only to have my next guests come in and destroy
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their tax measure. So with that, I want to figure
out what in the world has got into Brook, Ashtian
who is supporting a tax. He said he might support
something a tax for roads. Brook, What has happened to you?
Are you becoming a liberal? You're supporting at tacks?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Oh my gosh, I hope not.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
The The reality is is that it's an extension of something.
So it's a it's a tax neutral plane, it's measure
C and it's for roads. And I think that one
of the things that we can certainly get behind. I mean,
obviously fire police roads. You know how, I don't know
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if you've driven these roads lately, but it's I mean,
it's spotthole Alley, everywhere everywhere you go.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
I mean it's bad.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
I mean it seems like either we've got to be
able to fix roads or we need We're gonna need
to recruit Dennis because you drive down the street and
you lose teeth.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
It's awful.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Well, I just had some gentlemen in from England last
week in Scotland working on some equipment my plant and
I had to run out to Patterson and they commented
how poor our roads were. I mean, they couldn't believe
how bad our roads were versus everywhere else. But this
is really a measure for Fresno County. And you know,
I make the joke, and anybody knows me knows I'm
I like to joke around and have fun with my friends.
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You know, I don't have a friend in front of me,
and just much some I like to pick on. But anyways,
I mean I did measure t from Madera County twenty
years ago with my brother in law, Tim Mormon, and
we did that because I believe in the roads tax,
because it's local money, it's it's for local good. But
there's there's a huge problem with this measure. C if
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it turns into like you know, the first or other
measure sees or other measure t's when it's more about
buses and transportation and feel good things parks rather than
transportation and fiction potholes exactly.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
And here's the real issue is that is that for
the county to put this on the ballot, it's going
to take a sixty six and two thirds vote, which
in today's economy and society is damn near impossible. It
just doesn't exist. It's very very hard to break that threshold.
So what happens is that you get private citizens like
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they try it on Presdent State and other deals where
they get private people to put up the money, They
go get signatures, and then it's only fifty percent plus one.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
So the threshold is very low.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
If you look at, for instance, you know, the last
measure that passed, the bond measure that passed for president
Unified School District. You know, I was opposed to that
because of the disorder and dysfunction that's sitting over there currently.
But I mean, you know, it went at almost sixty
percent and has to be the most mismanaged bond funds
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that I've ever seen in my entire life.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Right as it's sitting over frozen unified.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
So it to get to to get to the sixty
six and two thirds. You know, I make a joke.
What we need is more frozen unified voters really to
boost it up, right, people that really can't count. And
it's it's it's going to be a tall order. It's
going to be a very very tall order. It's going
to take a private initiative in my opinion, to get
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this thing done at fifty plus one. But you're right,
I mean, think about all the things that happen on
these roads, the sidewalks, the curbs, the gutters, even the trails. Right,
So everything in this county that moves in your business,
my business.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Ag.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
I don't care what it is, it's moving on those roads.
If we don't fix those roads, we're gonna have major problems.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Now.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
People say, well, you know, I'm already paying enough taxes
and I and I don't disagree with that. We got
bamboozled by this governor on SB one.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Oh absolutely, that's horrible.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
He sold us a bag of goods that was a
bag of you know what, And he said, well, we're
going to put this gas tax on.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
It's going to go for the roads.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
And so what they didn't do was they didn't blockbox it.
They didn't lock boxes thing together and say, all the
money that comes out of these gas tax is going
to go for these roads. He stole the money, he
took the money, and he just spent it. It's gone.
And so as a results, you know, we have dodgeball
where we don't drive anymore. We shouldn't get a driving license,
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we should get a dodgeball license. We're dodging potholes everywhere
we go.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Well, but one of the things that is concerning about
Measure C that we saw when when the group of
liberals opposed the last one because the last measure wasn't
bad that they lost, but because they didn't get their input.
And that's always the joke, Oh we got to have input,
we have a community input, you know, communities of interest,
which is an overused liberal term. But the reality is
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if if they had their way, they would have more
empty buses, more high speed rail, more wasted spending. And
for me, as a taxpayer, I'll be the first one
to donate to friends of my CSI group that it
hits tax measures against that if if it's a bad measure,
because we can't. We don't need more money for buses
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other than what's already historically there. Now, I think anything
more for public transportation that's in that measure than at
the end of the day is too much because we're
not a community. We're not a transportation community that will
rely on buses.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
There's nothing wrong with public transportation, and in most big
cities they use it and it's effective.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
And you go to New York.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
You've been in New York of many times. You're right,
the subway, I mean, it's effective. But we don't have
that same consensus or dynamic here sitting in the city
at Fresnoe. Look at the buses, they're empty, and they're
going to give us some updates on different things. But
you're you're one hundred percent correct in saying that the
left wing is coming from Measure C and the building
healthy communities. How in the world these guys even function.
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I mean, these guys, you know, ultimately, and I joke
about this, but they're responsible for the low flow shower heads.
You know, these are the guys that don't want you
to have a really great shower, right and even though
it has no bearing upon water, and you're spending four
times as much time in the shower just trying to
get the soap off right. You can't even enjoy a
good shower anymore. That's what they want to do with
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our gas tax, our measures C money, and they want
to put it into crazy ideas. And I'll tell you
some you know, not too far from them, as Ashley's
group sitting over there at at her you know, the foundation,
where she's gonna she's gonna maneuver some stuff around, and
she's always on some of these deals. She's the one
that did the crazy stuff with measure P and so
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we might I think what we need to do is
get back to you know, there's a there's a there's
an old move. You probably saw it with some of
your some of your kids. Matilda by Danny DeVito and
then the movie The Guys, the guys that used car salesman.
And he's putting glue on bumpers, and he's he's taking
drills and he's rewinding spinometers. He's doing all these things,
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and the little girl Matilda, looks up at him says, Dad,
She says, can't we just sell good cars dead? Don't
people want to buy good cars? And really that's what
we're talking about her. Can't we just fix potholes now?
Can't we just? Can't we just fix roads? Isn't that
what we Isn't that what we're supposed to do?
Speaker 1 (07:30):
But if you think about it, what the other think
about the roads is if you're driving right now listening
to the show, and you're on Highway forty one, think
about Fresno County twenty five years ago where forty one
stopped at McKinley. When I moved to Fresno, is McKinley
or Shaw wherever it stopped. That's all the further A win.
Maybe it's forty years ago when I moved here, but
I mean, that's all the farther I win. Look at
one eighty going going eastbound and westbounds amazing, one sixty eight.
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Can you imagine if we didn't have those roads? But
then we have policies like the idiot Obama policies. It
took you know, Maple Avenue between Olive and McKinley where
it's down to two lanes from four because we had
that of bike lanes for the bike diet, you know,
the lane diets. So how do we make sure that
we have the right one. And I'm very concerned about
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these terrorist groups, the Ashley's Group and building health care communities.
But really that's the way the approaches as terrorists, trying
to say, Okay, we'll give you this, but you know
we're gonna take you hostage before we give you something else.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Well, or or here's what they do.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
And I think our audience, your audience at Trevor's audience
knows this that if they can't beat you, they join you,
but they join you with poison. They give you the
poison pill, you know. And what I mean by that
is that they say, Okay, this group, tals group that's
going to do a Measure C. We're gonna do a
Measure C too. We're gonna we're going to try to
get the people that vote. We're going to offer them
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a little bit of this and a little bit of that.
And then they confuse the vote and they put on
three ballot measures for Measure C. And then people throw
their hands in the air, go, I can't figure this out.
It's no across the board right right. So they're very
skilled at what they do because it's their way or
the highway, and unfortunately they don't really want to even
build a highway. They want to build greenhouses, right, they
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want to build things that things that won't warm the planet.
I got news for you. The planet is cooling. It's
not warming, it's cooling. And so they you know, we
need to be very carbon sensitive. I mean, all of
these things that have come up not for big polluters.
But I'll tell you something. What has happened is is
that you know, in early two thousands, I'm sure it
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happened in your business, in mind and in most of
agg is that they came to us and said, okay,
get rid of all your equipment, all your diesel stuff
that works. All our tractors, our blades, our motigrators are scrapers,
everything that works, right, get rid of it, air resource board.
It still works, and I own it. Well, it doesn't
meet the carbon blah blah blah. So we say, okay,
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so we get rid of it. We got to start over, right,
four or five, ten millions. Some guys go forty fifty
million bucks into this deal. Well, then they come back
to you in twenty sixteen. Oh and by the way,
get rid of your trucks too. Well, wait a minute,
diesel truckle go a million miles. So you know what,
you know we did. We sold all this stuff to Nevada,
to Oregon, Arizona. I've sold stuff and it blows right
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back into the valley. These guys are these guys I.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Sold talk to Mexico. But that's the reality is that
we have these groups that are doing that. Yes, but
even in Fresno, City of FRESNOE. I mean, they've got
a rule now that she's got to be a union
contract if you're doing roads, and how do we stop
that contract from getting in the county contract because that's
just gonna that just inflates the cost, much like they've
done with housing and everything else that these politicians they
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want to, you know, scratch the back of their their
their their donors that are in the unions.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Well, so Measure C also effects comes into the City
of Fresno. City present I think administers some of these funds.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Do they not?
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Yeah, absolutely they do.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
So what you're.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Referring to is Fresno currently has a PLA, a project
labor agreement with the unions. And listen, some of my
great friends are union guys. I mean, I'm I'm having
lunch with some guys. Some of these guys tomorrow. But
great example, potholes come up, patchwork comes up for the
city of Fresle. So one of my companies we bid
on it. We bid on the patchwork. City Fresno has
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in their policy currently today if the engineer's estimate not
the bid result. If the engineer's estimate is over a
million dollars, and engineers have never been estimators, first of all,
and second of all, it's a guess. But if it's
over a million dollars, you have to you have to
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sign up.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Your guys have to sign up and join the union.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
So we purposely came in at nine hundred ninety nine
one thousand, nine hundred ninety nine dollars and they didn't
give it to us. The next bidder was one point
six The City Fresne paid six hundred thousand dollars more
for the same job, the same work. Because I said,
wait a minute, wouldn't this be based upon the bid result?
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And they said, now, it's based upon the engineer's estimate.
That's the way we worded it. So I'm currently trying
to work with the mayor and other people to go, guys,
this is not right. Boost this thing of you want
the you know, the PLA guys, the union contractors. Hey,
they want to do the twenty thirty forty million dollars stuff.
They're set the Granites, the tigers, they're set up for it. Gohing,
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knock yourself out. Most of those guys are union and
nobody cares. But they're not set up to do the million,
million and a half two million, three million dollar job.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
They they're not there. It's just not in their wheelhouse
to do that.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Yeah, so too much overhead, too much and so so
the non union guys come in and a lot of
that work. We work really well with these guys. We
work great with the cities and it works. But you're right,
that has to be adjusted along with getting this thing
passed because it's.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
A screwed up program.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Well, that's another one. We call Tyler Maxwell or any
of the people on city council and say why do
we have this?
Speaker 4 (12:57):
And they all voted for it. Well, you know.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Why because those are the major donors in our campaign.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
I know it all comes back to the money in
their pocket.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
But at the end of the day, here's another example
why we're not fixing potholes because guess what if they
gave you a million six contract and said, I want
you to fix all the potholes. For a million six
you can fix. It's gonna be a lot more potholes exactly.
And so those are just some of the issues we
have to say. I mean, I wanted to bring you
in because it's interesting. You know, you and I have
been anti tax. An it tax. We both agree it's
a good tax. It's a good tax if it's administered
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properly and if if the rails are put on properly.
But if we let these liberal groups Ashley's group building
health communities take over this process and no one in
the business community. It's not something we want to do,
but we're having to do it, you know, and it's
and we do have some good bedfellows. Henry pere is certainly,
you know, looking out for the best.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Henry sr. Listen is a friend of mine.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
And even though he's you know, he's a Blue and
I'm a Red, we're good friends. And this guy's smart,
he's super smart, and he's a I would consider him
like a blue dog Democrat.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
Well yeah, he could.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Henry couldn't get elected today, right, I mean in his
policy care where it's gone. But he understands we got
to fix the potholes. And this measure C is going
to be critical if Fresno County wants to grow or
we're going to be you're gonna be looking in twenty
years like God, I wish we had put this freeway
in this road in.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Just just for numbers, measure CE brought in one point
seven billion dollars last twenty years.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
One point seven billion.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
So when you're looking at the extension of one eighty,
you're looking at the things you're talking about going up
to Shaver, you're talking about some of the interchanges that
have happened, the overpass, the grant Let overpass, the Veterans overpass.
Right there, all that's measure CE money, plus all the
individual stuff in the roads where there's they match right,
there's matching funds.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
It's important.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
It's a half of a penny. I know, I don't
even think they're going to make the penny anymore. People
don't realize that it's it's only half a penny.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Well, it's a continuation. I mean measure T I mean
anybody driving up forty one right now. It's been mismanaged
in terms of the growth and they allowed all that
development out there and out in Maderra, so that's really bad.
But they are going to use the new measure t
funding some of it to to help that and they
need it just like we've needed in Fresno. So it's
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critical that we get the right measure on the ballot,
not the liberal measure. And I think I would be
there to support if we had to get one. You know,
do go get signatures to get I think it's worthwhile
and people better be involved.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Well you would hope so or get used to going
to the dentist. Yeah, because you're going to lose your feelings.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Yeah, no, absolutely, the way it works, well, I think
it's important and and you know, it's a subject that
these are the kind of the subjects are way in
the weeds, but that we need to.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
This is the Trevor carry shown on The Valley's Power.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Talk tout cloud in for Trevor Carrey. We're here at
the bottom of the hour. We don't have a lot
of time before we go to breaks, so I figured
we'd talk about a judge. You know, you hear all
these crazy things and again, you know, complaints about President Trump.
But I got a question for you do you think
we should have judges allowing criminals to go out the
back door to evade apprehension by you know, ice or whoever.
(16:00):
Maybe there's a story of a Milwaukee judge. She's been
thrown in Federal court. Judge Hannah Dugan was arrested Friday morning. Basically,
she allowed a criminal in a criminal case who was
in the country illegally ahead of a hearing, to sneak
out the back door of the courthouse. She opened the
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door let him run away because she felt that, you know,
the federal government shouldn't be coming to deport this person
who's already in the country illegally. She felt. Because she's
a judge, and I'm sure she's one of the more
liberal judges, she had the opportunity to help this criminal
out by lett him out of the back door instead
doing her duty being a judge. I don't care what
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side of the aisle you're on if you're a criminal
and you're in a criminal proceeding, which means he was
there for a criminal proceeding. He wasn't there, you know,
talking about his deportation as a criminal proceeding that he
was there for, and she was helping him run out
the back door, or I hope this judge they throw
away the keys. I mean, you know, make an example
out of her. Okay, slap her on the hand, embarrass her,
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make her apologize, do whatever. But judges should not be
helping criminals because they disagree with the president's policies. If
you're in this country illegally, you're breaking our laws. You
need to be held accountable. I'm not you know. If
you if you were here many many years ago, fifty
years ago and you haven't got citizenship, get off your
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butt and you should have gotten it right. And I
don't think anybody's coming for you if you've not had
a crime. But if you're a criminal, there's been there's issues.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
This is the Trevor Cherry Show on the Valley's Power Dog.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
All right, it's Tao Cloud in for Trevor Carey today.
We've got a great next guest, an old friend of mine,
a Democrat, someone that's been around the block of time
or two and she knows how the game's played. Someone
who I told should run for United States Senate. When
when Kamala Harris ran, but she she did want to run,
then she should have ran for Senate. She would have
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been better as our senator than and Kamala ever would
have been. And I gotta bring this up. I gotta
start with this. We got a little time, so we're
gonna start with a little fun. You know, I don't
believe what they did to President Trump was right uh
in during this last election with law fair. But Letitia,
you're your own valley person. You got a lot of
law fair from Scrivener, the DA down down in Current County,
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who's found herself in a little trouble with old Zach
Scrivener's case with what went on with that with you know,
they kind of let him off the hook for his problems.
He was just charged on Friday. So you know, tell
the listeners what happened to you? How crazy that was
that they you know, they raided your office a few
days before the election and you almost lost. So let's
talk about that. They We're gonna go into what's going
on with the E. I R And the oil.
Speaker 6 (18:46):
Yeah, okay, he had so much fun, but this is
just much juice here.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Cow. I'm all about the Jews.
Speaker 6 (18:53):
Oh so so is everybody. So let me tell you
how two weeks before my election we had, you know,
this sort of our own you know scandal. We shore
a watergate scandal here when the members of the di
Retorney's office arrived at my office while it was closed,
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while the lights were out, and when no one was here,
and attempted to bypass any of us, not get permission,
not to get a warrant, but we tried to strong
arm the CEO staff to let them into our office
without permission, without notice. They had cameras around their necks.
They were going to take pictures of something presumably criminal
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and very important to be going around all of these
due process, you know protections if you will, for a
fellow elected official. Well, the CEO team said, no, we're
going to follow the law. You need a warrant or
you need permission from the supervisor. Well, those same individuals
left that office and went straight to my office attempting
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to strong arm my twenty one year old staffer at
the front, and you know, with their guns and command presence,
tell as you know, that's very serious stuff, that's the state,
right And they said we need to get into the office.
And my young staffer said, well, does the supervisor know
that you needed to get into the office. And they said,
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well no, and well do you have a warrant or
do you have permission? No, none of it. So he
said you have to get permission. They returned to county council,
attempted again the county to the strong arm County council.
County Council said we need to follow the law. You
need a warrant. Came back to the office again. In
the intermediate time, I find out called the dation doesn't
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take my call, still has never taken it to this day.
I send her a text.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Message towel you know that's Cynthia Zimmer, whose nephew is
just indicted the other day. Okay, just continue.
Speaker 6 (20:53):
Same person, I said, Sindy, this is supervisor at these
say Perez's my first correspondence with her. But I said,
you're not allowed in my office without a warrant. And
uh so, you know, I was trying to both make
a legal statement but also let her know we're now
aware of that that this is happening, and I'm completely
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confused about any criminal conduct alleged and this just doesn't
seem right how this and of course it's the prosecutors
support my opponent. This is two weeks before the election. Uh,
they're huge part of my opponent's apparatus of the campaign.
Prosecutors are all in for my opponent. This says something
here just doesn't look right. Well, even after all that,
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how she text me back and says, thanks, I'll pass
the message along. That was her response to me. How
about needing a warrant to go into my office? So
I responded to her back talent and said, the message
is for you.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Well, and then just recently, uh, her nephew, Zach Scribner.
I don't know if it was this, Yeah, this must
have been happening already.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
Uh. He was.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
He was arrested for child and endangerment and number of
other charges and.
Speaker 6 (22:05):
Any well, he's never been arrested cow, that's right, he
has not.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
That's right. He was.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
He was he was stabbed in the back by one
of his kids for doing some very bad things. And
they just what happened on Friday. I think they he
just got charged. Was he is just charged with some crimes.
Speaker 6 (22:21):
Well, this coming week is going to be his first
court hearing, which is may first. He's of course entitled
to do process as you know, how we are, you know,
we we adhere to that reality, but certainly in this
particular line, there are some things that have been pretty
flagrantly different. I don't know what the intentions are. I
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can't speak to other people's intentions, but as you know,
you know, our sheriff pointed out that, uh, you know
President Trump had to be mugshotted, fingerprinted. I mean that
was part of the process and part of the humiliation. Frankly,
that comes with, you know, the allegations of a crime.
And we know that our president went through all of
those processes, and next year, somehow, you know, this person
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has has managed to get around those, you know, what
would seem like ordinary processes.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
And so yeah, I read where young Blood said that
the other day, and I thought it was pretty appalling
that you have a politician with the his aunt who's
the DA of the community, you know, running cover and
allowing him that when what's happened with Trump. But let's
let's change the subject. Letsia, you're a Democrat, I'm a Republican.
But we've always had We've known each other for a
long time, and we've had our agreements and disagreements, and
that's that's the beauty of this country. I think you
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and I both come from the same cloth that it's
okay to have varying views because we're all, you know,
fighting for the same good and to improve the communities
of our communities. So I you know, you're there's a
big eir coming up. And I talked before you're online
about you know, the Wall Street Journal art editorial on
Saturday about Kevin or Newsom and and what's happened with
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the oil industry in California. We just had another one
shut down or announced they're going to shut down a
plant over in uh Martinez area. So what's going on
down in Kern County and what are you trying to
do to help the oil industry in Kerrent County? Let
our residents and this message goes from northern Kern County
all the way up in Modesto, So let us know,
you know what's going on down there, because this affects everybody.
Speaker 6 (24:14):
Yes it does. And how we are the energy at
center for Southwestern United States, arguably in many ways global.
We do seventy percent, seventy to seventy five percent of
the state's fossil fuel production. We're very proud of that.
We're also sixty percent and growing of the state's renewable total.
So we actually position ourselves and see ourselves as energy experts.
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Ten years ago tu Cloud twenty fifteen, this board that
I was a body of submitted our oil and gassy
ir and we said to the States, we have conducted
environmental analysis. This is a project level environmental impact report,
because we want to get people working, we want to
get our permits pumping, we want to triple our domestic
supply as matters of national security, interests, as matters of
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you've being able to meet our needs, and increasingly shutting
down local production for foreign and domestic imports, which is
for so many reasons. How first of all stupid, so
we could agree on that, but just really bad decisions
for the business wise, and for our people, and for
our interests and for our national security. So what is
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exciting about right now is June we are reintroducing what
we believe is the final step. Tell and I'll tell
you the statements by the governor to your point about
changes and how he sees the oil industry and their
place in American security. California well being with the fourth
largest economy in the world, California and our oil industry
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is absolutely critical. And pivotal to our growth, our future,
all of it. So we have an opportunity right now
with what appears to be a changing you know, direction
of the state legend major now I can't believe it.
I don't know how many text messages and you know,
screaming matches we have had about what California Dems are
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doing to Kerrent County's economy. But it looks like how
they may have gotten a change of heart or having
a change of heart. I'm just beside myself. It's very exciting.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Well that's good. So I mean, so are you saying
that you started the eier ten years ago and you're
just finishing it now or is this a new one.
Speaker 6 (26:20):
It's the same miir we submitted ten years ago tow
and through endless litigation because of sequel and because of
self interested players who have the capacity in California to
touch you by a thousand cuts until you can no
longer function. That's what we've had here. Are dwindling revenue
to the county. How is not to be overstated, I
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promise you. When I joined the board thirteen years ago,
oil and gas revenue to our discretionary budget was thirty
two thirty three percent of our discretionary money. You know
what it is now.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
Tow twelve percent percent.
Speaker 6 (26:54):
And lowering and lowering. Wow, this is the impact to
our discret leationary budget. How we got all these fights
with the CiU. They're striking, they're upset with us, and
my message to them is we direct that anchor to
the State of California. Convey to your governor how significant
Kurent County's budget is as it relates to our ability
to pay our workers a decent wage and give them
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some hope about their commitment to being part of the
Kern County family. So, tew, it's the biggest thing since
I've been supervisor. It's legendary, it's huge. I think this
lab election probably has something to do with it. Tell
you know, but here we are looking at a very
different scenario for Kerrent County's economic future. It would be
absolutely transform transformative and a huge boon to Kerrent County.
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It's very very exciting how and by part of it?
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Well, okay, but what happens if the the ei R
doesn't move forward? Do they shut down your oil industry?
Do they You know what? You know, You're you're very
excited about it. I'm a little naive about, you know,
the details. So is is there something that is it
is different than other EIRs? Is there something that's more progressive,
it's more sustainable. What makes where you're at today so exciting?
Speaker 6 (28:11):
This is the cleanest oil production on the globe, on
the entire globe, Current County right here, we have the
cleanest processes, the cleanest systems. We have submitted that to
the state, but through their various methodologies of holding up
the approval of that r we're not allowed to issue
permits on new wells. And all they'll give us permits
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for is to shut down our well to cap them.
I mean, it's just a slap in the face this.
If this is finalized and it is panonized that the state,
which I believe could happen tw that means Current County
can issue our own permits over the counter ministerial permits,
because it would be the state saying Current County, you've
done a sufficient job revealing the environment and now boom,
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go get it, and we can start issuing permits.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Okay, get it. That's a big deal. So in other words,
we're going to have local control over our oil growth
in California, and that oil is going to produce taxes
and revenues for your county and then control our gas
prices and everything else where. Your products are used here
in all of California, for our farmers, ranchers and people
that live here.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
That is part exiding.
Speaker 6 (29:20):
Well, how it's our own control. It's our own r
funded by the oil and gas industry to the tune
of tens of millions of dollars. Well, we've submitted that
r CAW. It was a twenty million dollar cost to
the oil industry that funded Kern County doing the reports,
put doing everything in our power to be the cleanest
operation in the whole world, to say, yes we care
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about the environment. Yes we're raising our kids here and
the air they breathe matters too, like my boys I
raise here cow. But our people need to work. These
are eighty thousand dollars a year average jobs. This is
our discretionary money for roads, for law enforcement, for all
of it. How everything you dream your local government should do,
this is the funding mechanism. And for current County it's
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always been oil. It's our covenant CAW that that's our
god given resource that allows us to roll up our
sleeves and get out, you know, with our roughnecks and
earn that eighty thousand dollars year average salary for local families,
local families right their money for current county. We need
to control it. We've done the adequate environmental review and
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we are the cleanest in the world. And how that's
not a side thing. That's important. We want to be
able to look the Democrats in the faith and say, yes,
we have met your demands. Our industries have stepped up
with their science, with their technology, with their high paid lobbyists. Yes,
we've done it, and here we present it to you
as the finest package in the world. Now let us
get back to work.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Do you think Newsom will sign it? I mean, do
you think this the way he's changed his stripes and
realizing after he's lost the Nichia Venetian everywhere else? But
what about what Harvey? I think it's hard, is it?
Who's assembly a woman? Dillan down there? I think, okay,
what about do you think she would support it? You know,
I know, I know she is not voted positively on
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some of the bills. Uh, you know, other than to
play the game at time but what about her fellow Democrats.
Do you think they're going to support this or just
say no? I mean, is that what happens in Sacramento?
These Democrats you know, Uh Newsome gets to say, oh,
I'm for it, and the rest of them, you know,
do his dirty work for him.
Speaker 6 (31:23):
Well, I think, okay, fair enough. I think a change
of heart and Newsom that has happened because of the election,
because of the tariff challenges. Well we could we could
just list out why it's such a bad idea not
to have your own domestic supply and not to have
it roaring on all engines, if you will. I think
that a change of hearts from Gavin is is really
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taletelle about what the new world we're living in is
and how you've always known it and I've always known
it because we're down here and you and me work
at the Purple Center to get stuff done right. But
up there they don't. They don't really have a sense
of current county and unfortunately, past political relationships I don't
need to mention them, you know who they are have
caused us to have a relationship with Sacramento that's not
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based on facts, based on a lot of fear and
a lot of ignorance about just how critical Curn County is.
We're number one an ag of three thousand sixty nine
counties where we're number one in in falsi field production
for California and sixty percent of renewables. We're edging close
to our fossil foot fuel numbers in renewables. Because we're
not limiting ourselves on ideology or party or somebody's next
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election cycle. We say we're open for business. We are
in all the above energy policy county, and we want California,
at the fourth largest economy, to take lead from current county,
to join with us as partners, help us get the
maximum we add out of this incredible number one oil
basin in the world. It's also the number one warehouse
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for carbon capture. We could do all of it right
here in Colna. We've demonstrated to one hundred plus years
that we have the expertise, we have this, we have
the stakeholders, but we can't push them out. How they
feel pushed out, they feel us versus them. And with
a change in heart from Gavin, I'm so proud of
him that he would look at this with a new
face and a new art and give us an honest
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and honest, you know, opportunity to you know, get back
to where we were.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
And further well, I got to disagree, and I gotta
I gotta move on for commercial break here in a second.
But what they I agree he's had a change of heart.
But I think he's looking at the tea leaves of
last November and trying to figure out how his tea
leaves will be a little different come of four years
from now because he's in a he's in a tough
space with a lot of bad decisions he's made. But
I'm really excited about what you're you know, what you're
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seeing and what you're doing down there.
Speaker 5 (33:44):
As This is the Trevor carry Show on the Valley's
Power Talk.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
All right, it's Toal Cloud. I'm in for Trevor Carrey.
It's great to be here. Thanks for listening. I hope
you've enjoyed the show today. I had a lot of
stuff going on, a lot of people calling in. We're
going to have two more great guests come at the
bottom of the hour, but I thought i'd talk about
a little bit something more local. Misty her, she's the
new going to be the new superintendent for Fresno unified
a fair amount of controversy. I'd say, you know, we
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had a lot of great candidates, and from what I'm
hearing from my sources that they weren't really weren't considered
very well. There's there was a thought that that there's
a deal put in for Misty her and some of
the voting, the Shenanigans for city council, and a lot
of you know, a lot of innuendo that the mom
community would do this if you did that, and you know,
blah blah blah and different things out there. So you
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don't know what happens or what was true or what's falls.
But the reality is, you know, you got to look
at who they interviewed, and they you know, they Gustavo's Baldeurs.
I'm saying the name wrong, I'm sure because I can't read.
From Beaverton, Oregon, former Des Moines, Iowa Public School superintendent
Thomas Ahart and Andrea Towncil Calvert County, Maryland Public Schools.
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The three of them were the name candidates by the
GV Wire, but balder All bald Ross. Balder Ross, Yeah,
bald Ross. He was a superintendent of the of the
of the Year and twenty twenty by the American Association
of School Administrators. You know, and I know I've known
school administrators. We had we were lucky enough to have
one in in Sanger. Mark Johnson was one. And you
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know all school administrators like this, they they their time
comes and their time goes and they move on to
different districts. It would have been nice to understand why
we didn't pick someone that was that well thought of
versus Missy. Her from what I'm hearing is, you know,
she's well liked, but she's going to bring the same
old thinking. There's going to be not much new. She's
had the position for a year and a half and
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hasn't done much. She's done very little actually, from from
every thing I've been told for my sources, she and
and unfortunately, you know, when you're known like she is,
when she's been there a long time. I mean, I
think there's some people that are kind of exciting on
the Union side that say, hey, we can probably take
advantage of some of her her lack of skills, and
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that's unfortunate as well. I think what we need to
see for Misty, it had been better to see from
the board as we should have went outside. We need
a change in culture. Nothing has improved since COVID at
Presdent unified. It continues to regress. It's been a long
time without a superintendent. There's been a lot of shenanigans.
I mean it's been I think almost a year and
a half without a leader. And I'm sorry if you
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know a rudderless company without a leader, as this country
saw for four years.
Speaker 5 (36:27):
Today assisted Trevor Kerry Show on the Valley's Power Dog
Hey, it's tu Cloud in for Trevor Carey, filling in
on his beautiful Monday. As we move into the second hour,
and we have we have someone that's sitting in front
of me that if you want to raise a tax
in Fresno, and you hear his names on the other side,
you quake in your boots. There's a few fine businessmen
this town that have spent millions and millions of dollars
only to have my next guests come in and destroy
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their tax measure. So with that, I want to figure
out what in the world has got into Brook, Ashtian
who is supporting a tax. He said he might support
something a tax for roads. Brook, What has happened to you?
Are you becoming a liberal? You're supporting at tacks?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Oh my gosh, I hope not.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
The The reality is is that it's an extension of something.
So it's a it's a tax neutral plane, it's measure
C and it's for roads. And I think that one
of the things that we can certainly get behind. I mean,
obviously fire police roads. You know how, I don't know
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if you've driven these roads lately, but it's I mean,
it's spotthole Alley, everywhere everywhere you go.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
I mean it's bad.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
I mean it seems like either we've got to be
able to fix roads or we need We're gonna need
to recruit Dennis because you drive down the street and
you lose teeth.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
It's awful.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Well, I just had some gentlemen in from England last
week in Scotland working on some equipment my plant and
I had to run out to Patterson and they commented
how poor our roads were. I mean, they couldn't believe
how bad our roads were versus everywhere else. But this
is really a measure for Fresno County. And you know,
I make the joke, and anybody knows me knows I'm
I like to joke around and have fun with my friends.
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You know, I don't have a friend in front of me,
and just much some I like to pick on. But anyways,
I mean I did measure t from Madera County twenty
years ago with my brother in law, Tim Mormon, and
we did that because I believe in the roads tax,
because it's local money, it's it's for local good. But
there's there's a huge problem with this measure. C if
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it turns into like you know, the first or other
measure sees or other measure t's when it's more about
buses and transportation and feel good things parks rather than
transportation and fiction potholes exactly.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
And here's the real issue is that is that for
the county to put this on the ballot, it's going
to take a sixty six and two thirds vote, which
in today's economy and society is damn near impossible. It
just doesn't exist. It's very very hard to break that threshold.
So what happens is that you get private citizens like
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they try it on Presdent State and other deals where
they get private people to put up the money, They
go get signatures, and then it's only fifty percent plus one.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
So the threshold is very low.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
If you look at, for instance, you know, the last
measure that passed, the bond measure that passed for president
Unified School District. You know, I was opposed to that
because of the disorder and dysfunction that's sitting over there currently.
But I mean, you know, it went at almost sixty
percent and has to be the most mismanaged bond funds
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that I've ever seen in my entire life.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Right as it's sitting over frozen unified.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
So it to get to to get to the sixty
six and two thirds. You know, I make a joke.
What we need is more frozen unified voters really to
boost it up, right, people that really can't count. And
it's it's it's going to be a tall order. It's
going to be a very very tall order. It's going
to take a private initiative in my opinion, to get
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this thing done at fifty plus one. But you're right,
I mean, think about all the things that happen on
these roads, the sidewalks, the curbs, the gutters, even the trails. Right,
So everything in this county that moves in your business,
my business.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Ag.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
I don't care what it is, it's moving on those roads.
If we don't fix those roads, we're gonna have major problems.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Now.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
People say, well, you know, I'm already paying enough taxes
and I and I don't disagree with that. We got
bamboozled by this governor on SB one.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Oh absolutely, that's horrible.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
He sold us a bag of goods that was a
bag of you know what, And he said, well, we're
going to put this gas tax on.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
It's going to go for the roads.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
And so what they didn't do was they didn't blockbox it.
They didn't lock boxes thing together and say, all the
money that comes out of these gas tax is going
to go for these roads. He stole the money, he
took the money, and he just spent it. It's gone.
And so as a results, you know, we have dodgeball
where we don't drive anymore. We shouldn't get a driving license,
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we should get a dodgeball license. We're dodging potholes everywhere
we go.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Well, but one of the things that is concerning about
Measure C that we saw when when the group of
liberals opposed the last one because the last measure wasn't
bad that they lost, but because they didn't get their input.
And that's always the joke, Oh we got to have input,
we have a community input, you know, communities of interest,
which is an overused liberal term. But the reality is
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if if they had their way, they would have more
empty buses, more high speed rail, more wasted spending. And
for me, as a taxpayer, I'll be the first one
to donate to friends of my CSI group that it
hits tax measures against that if if it's a bad measure,
because we can't. We don't need more money for buses
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other than what's already historically there. Now, I think anything
more for public transportation that's in that measure than at
the end of the day is too much because we're
not a community. We're not a transportation community that will
rely on buses.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
There's nothing wrong with public transportation, and in most big
cities they use it and it's effective.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
And you go to New York.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
You've been in New York of many times. You're right,
the subway, I mean, it's effective. But we don't have
that same consensus or dynamic here sitting in the city
at Fresnoe. Look at the buses, they're empty, and they're
going to give us some updates on different things. But
you're you're one hundred percent correct in saying that the
left wing is coming from Measure C and the building
healthy communities. How in the world these guys even function.
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I mean, these guys, you know, ultimately, and I joke
about this, but they're responsible for the low flow shower heads.
You know, these are the guys that don't want you
to have a really great shower, right and even though
it has no bearing upon water, and you're spending four
times as much time in the shower just trying to
get the soap off right. You can't even enjoy a
good shower anymore. That's what they want to do with
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our gas tax, our measures C money, and they want
to put it into crazy ideas. And I'll tell you
some you know, not too far from them, as Ashley's
group sitting over there at at her you know, the foundation,
where she's gonna she's gonna maneuver some stuff around, and
she's always on some of these deals. She's the one
that did the crazy stuff with measure P and so
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we might I think what we need to do is
get back to you know, there's a there's a there's
an old move. You probably saw it with some of
your some of your kids. Matilda by Danny DeVito and
then the movie The Guys, the guys that used car salesman.
And he's putting glue on bumpers, and he's he's taking
drills and he's rewinding spinometers. He's doing all these things,
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and the little girl Matilda, looks up at him says, Dad,
She says, can't we just sell good cars dead? Don't
people want to buy good cars? And really that's what
we're talking about her. Can't we just fix potholes now?
Can't we just? Can't we just fix roads? Isn't that
what we Isn't that what we're supposed to do?
Speaker 1 (07:30):
But if you think about it, what the other think
about the roads is if you're driving right now listening
to the show, and you're on Highway forty one, think
about Fresno County twenty five years ago where forty one
stopped at McKinley. When I moved to Fresno, is McKinley
or Shaw wherever it stopped. That's all the further A win.
Maybe it's forty years ago when I moved here, but
I mean, that's all the farther I win. Look at
one eighty going going eastbound and westbounds amazing, one sixty eight.
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Can you imagine if we didn't have those roads? But
then we have policies like the idiot Obama policies. It
took you know, Maple Avenue between Olive and McKinley where
it's down to two lanes from four because we had
that of bike lanes for the bike diet, you know,
the lane diets. So how do we make sure that
we have the right one. And I'm very concerned about
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these terrorist groups, the Ashley's Group and building health care communities.
But really that's the way the approaches as terrorists, trying
to say, Okay, we'll give you this, but you know
we're gonna take you hostage before we give you something else.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Well, or or here's what they do.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
And I think our audience, your audience at Trevor's audience
knows this that if they can't beat you, they join you,
but they join you with poison. They give you the
poison pill, you know. And what I mean by that
is that they say, Okay, this group, tals group that's
going to do a Measure C. We're gonna do a
Measure C too. We're gonna we're going to try to
get the people that vote. We're going to offer them
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a little bit of this and a little bit of that.
And then they confuse the vote and they put on
three ballot measures for Measure C. And then people throw
their hands in the air, go, I can't figure this out.
It's no across the board right right. So they're very
skilled at what they do because it's their way or
the highway, and unfortunately they don't really want to even
build a highway. They want to build greenhouses, right, they
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want to build things that things that won't warm the planet.
I got news for you. The planet is cooling. It's
not warming, it's cooling. And so they you know, we
need to be very carbon sensitive. I mean, all of
these things that have come up not for big polluters.
But I'll tell you something. What has happened is is
that you know, in early two thousands, I'm sure it
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happened in your business, in mind and in most of
agg is that they came to us and said, okay,
get rid of all your equipment, all your diesel stuff
that works. All our tractors, our blades, our motigrators are scrapers,
everything that works, right, get rid of it, air resource board.
It still works, and I own it. Well, it doesn't
meet the carbon blah blah blah. So we say, okay,
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so we get rid of it. We got to start over, right,
four or five, ten millions. Some guys go forty fifty
million bucks into this deal. Well, then they come back
to you in twenty sixteen. Oh and by the way,
get rid of your trucks too. Well, wait a minute,
diesel truckle go a million miles. So you know what,
you know we did. We sold all this stuff to Nevada,
to Oregon, Arizona. I've sold stuff and it blows right
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back into the valley. These guys are these guys I.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Sold talk to Mexico. But that's the reality is that
we have these groups that are doing that. Yes, but
even in Fresno, City of FRESNOE. I mean, they've got
a rule now that she's got to be a union
contract if you're doing roads, and how do we stop
that contract from getting in the county contract because that's
just gonna that just inflates the cost, much like they've
done with housing and everything else that these politicians they
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want to, you know, scratch the back of their their
their their donors that are in the unions.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Well, so Measure C also effects comes into the City
of Fresno. City present I think administers some of these funds.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Do they not?
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Yeah, absolutely they do.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
So what you're.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Referring to is Fresno currently has a PLA, a project
labor agreement with the unions. And listen, some of my
great friends are union guys. I mean, I'm I'm having
lunch with some guys. Some of these guys tomorrow. But
great example, potholes come up, patchwork comes up for the
city of Fresle. So one of my companies we bid
on it. We bid on the patchwork. City Fresno has
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in their policy currently today if the engineer's estimate not
the bid result. If the engineer's estimate is over a
million dollars, and engineers have never been estimators, first of all,
and second of all, it's a guess. But if it's
over a million dollars, you have to you have to
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sign up.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Your guys have to sign up and join the union.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
So we purposely came in at nine hundred ninety nine
one thousand, nine hundred ninety nine dollars and they didn't
give it to us. The next bidder was one point
six The City Fresne paid six hundred thousand dollars more
for the same job, the same work. Because I said,
wait a minute, wouldn't this be based upon the bid result?
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And they said, now, it's based upon the engineer's estimate.
That's the way we worded it. So I'm currently trying
to work with the mayor and other people to go, guys,
this is not right. Boost this thing of you want
the you know, the PLA guys, the union contractors. Hey,
they want to do the twenty thirty forty million dollars stuff.
They're set the Granites, the tigers, they're set up for it. Gohing,
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knock yourself out. Most of those guys are union and
nobody cares. But they're not set up to do the million,
million and a half two million, three million dollar job.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
They they're not there. It's just not in their wheelhouse
to do that.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Yeah, so too much overhead, too much and so so
the non union guys come in and a lot of
that work. We work really well with these guys. We
work great with the cities and it works. But you're right,
that has to be adjusted along with getting this thing
passed because it's.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
A screwed up program.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Well, that's another one. We call Tyler Maxwell or any
of the people on city council and say why do
we have this?
Speaker 4 (12:57):
And they all voted for it. Well, you know.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Why because those are the major donors in our campaign.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
I know it all comes back to the money in
their pocket.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
But at the end of the day, here's another example
why we're not fixing potholes because guess what if they
gave you a million six contract and said, I want
you to fix all the potholes. For a million six
you can fix. It's gonna be a lot more potholes exactly.
And so those are just some of the issues we
have to say. I mean, I wanted to bring you
in because it's interesting. You know, you and I have
been anti tax. An it tax. We both agree it's
a good tax. It's a good tax if it's administered
(13:24):
properly and if if the rails are put on properly.
But if we let these liberal groups Ashley's group building
health communities take over this process and no one in
the business community. It's not something we want to do,
but we're having to do it, you know, and it's
and we do have some good bedfellows. Henry pere is certainly,
you know, looking out for the best.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Henry sr. Listen is a friend of mine.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
And even though he's you know, he's a Blue and
I'm a Red, we're good friends. And this guy's smart,
he's super smart, and he's a I would consider him
like a blue dog Democrat.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
Well yeah, he could.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Henry couldn't get elected today, right, I mean in his
policy care where it's gone. But he understands we got
to fix the potholes. And this measure C is going
to be critical if Fresno County wants to grow or
we're going to be you're gonna be looking in twenty
years like God, I wish we had put this freeway
in this road in.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Just just for numbers, measure CE brought in one point
seven billion dollars last twenty years.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
One point seven billion.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
So when you're looking at the extension of one eighty,
you're looking at the things you're talking about going up
to Shaver, you're talking about some of the interchanges that
have happened, the overpass, the grant Let overpass, the Veterans overpass.
Right there, all that's measure CE money, plus all the
individual stuff in the roads where there's they match right,
there's matching funds.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
It's important.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
It's a half of a penny. I know, I don't
even think they're going to make the penny anymore. People
don't realize that it's it's only half a penny.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Well, it's a continuation. I mean measure T I mean
anybody driving up forty one right now. It's been mismanaged
in terms of the growth and they allowed all that
development out there and out in Maderra, so that's really bad.
But they are going to use the new measure t
funding some of it to to help that and they
need it just like we've needed in Fresno. So it's
(15:07):
critical that we get the right measure on the ballot,
not the liberal measure. And I think I would be
there to support if we had to get one. You know,
do go get signatures to get I think it's worthwhile
and people better be involved.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Well you would hope so or get used to going
to the dentist. Yeah, because you're going to lose your feelings.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Yeah, no, absolutely, the way it works, well, I think
it's important and and you know, it's a subject that
these are the kind of the subjects are way in
the weeds, but that we need to.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
This is the Trevor carry shown on The Valley's Power.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Talk tout cloud in for Trevor Carrey. We're here at
the bottom of the hour. We don't have a lot
of time before we go to breaks, so I figured
we'd talk about a judge. You know, you hear all
these crazy things and again, you know, complaints about President Trump.
But I got a question for you do you think
we should have judges allowing criminals to go out the
back door to evade apprehension by you know, ice or whoever.
(16:00):
Maybe there's a story of a Milwaukee judge. She's been
thrown in Federal court. Judge Hannah Dugan was arrested Friday morning. Basically,
she allowed a criminal in a criminal case who was
in the country illegally ahead of a hearing, to sneak
out the back door of the courthouse. She opened the
(16:22):
door let him run away because she felt that, you know,
the federal government shouldn't be coming to deport this person
who's already in the country illegally. She felt. Because she's
a judge, and I'm sure she's one of the more
liberal judges, she had the opportunity to help this criminal
out by lett him out of the back door instead
doing her duty being a judge. I don't care what
(16:45):
side of the aisle you're on if you're a criminal
and you're in a criminal proceeding, which means he was
there for a criminal proceeding. He wasn't there, you know,
talking about his deportation as a criminal proceeding that he
was there for, and she was helping him run out
the back door, or I hope this judge they throw
away the keys. I mean, you know, make an example
out of her. Okay, slap her on the hand, embarrass her,
(17:08):
make her apologize, do whatever. But judges should not be
helping criminals because they disagree with the president's policies. If
you're in this country illegally, you're breaking our laws. You
need to be held accountable. I'm not you know. If
you if you were here many many years ago, fifty
years ago and you haven't got citizenship, get off your
(17:28):
butt and you should have gotten it right. And I
don't think anybody's coming for you if you've not had
a crime. But if you're a criminal, there's been there's issues.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
This is the Trevor Cherry Show on the Valley's Power Dog.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
All right, it's Tao Cloud in for Trevor Carey today.
We've got a great next guest, an old friend of mine,
a Democrat, someone that's been around the block of time
or two and she knows how the game's played. Someone
who I told should run for United States Senate. When
when Kamala Harris ran, but she she did want to run,
then she should have ran for Senate. She would have
(18:03):
been better as our senator than and Kamala ever would
have been. And I gotta bring this up. I gotta
start with this. We got a little time, so we're
gonna start with a little fun. You know, I don't
believe what they did to President Trump was right uh
in during this last election with law fair. But Letitia,
you're your own valley person. You got a lot of
law fair from Scrivener, the DA down down in Current County,
(18:25):
who's found herself in a little trouble with old Zach
Scrivener's case with what went on with that with you know,
they kind of let him off the hook for his problems.
He was just charged on Friday. So you know, tell
the listeners what happened to you? How crazy that was
that they you know, they raided your office a few
days before the election and you almost lost. So let's
talk about that. They We're gonna go into what's going
on with the E. I R And the oil.
Speaker 6 (18:46):
Yeah, okay, he had so much fun, but this is
just much juice here.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Cow. I'm all about the Jews.
Speaker 6 (18:53):
Oh so so is everybody. So let me tell you
how two weeks before my election we had, you know,
this sort of our own you know scandal. We shore
a watergate scandal here when the members of the di
Retorney's office arrived at my office while it was closed,
(19:16):
while the lights were out, and when no one was here,
and attempted to bypass any of us, not get permission,
not to get a warrant, but we tried to strong
arm the CEO staff to let them into our office
without permission, without notice. They had cameras around their necks.
They were going to take pictures of something presumably criminal
(19:37):
and very important to be going around all of these
due process, you know protections if you will, for a
fellow elected official. Well, the CEO team said, no, we're
going to follow the law. You need a warrant or
you need permission from the supervisor. Well, those same individuals
left that office and went straight to my office attempting
(19:59):
to strong arm my twenty one year old staffer at
the front, and you know, with their guns and command presence,
tell as you know, that's very serious stuff, that's the state,
right And they said we need to get into the office.
And my young staffer said, well, does the supervisor know
that you needed to get into the office. And they said,
(20:20):
well no, and well do you have a warrant or
do you have permission? No, none of it. So he
said you have to get permission. They returned to county council,
attempted again the county to the strong arm County council.
County Council said we need to follow the law. You
need a warrant. Came back to the office again. In
the intermediate time, I find out called the dation doesn't
(20:43):
take my call, still has never taken it to this day.
I send her a text.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Message towel you know that's Cynthia Zimmer, whose nephew is
just indicted the other day. Okay, just continue.
Speaker 6 (20:53):
Same person, I said, Sindy, this is supervisor at these
say Perez's my first correspondence with her. But I said,
you're not allowed in my office without a warrant. And
uh so, you know, I was trying to both make
a legal statement but also let her know we're now
aware of that that this is happening, and I'm completely
(21:15):
confused about any criminal conduct alleged and this just doesn't
seem right how this and of course it's the prosecutors
support my opponent. This is two weeks before the election. Uh,
they're huge part of my opponent's apparatus of the campaign.
Prosecutors are all in for my opponent. This says something
here just doesn't look right. Well, even after all that,
(21:37):
how she text me back and says, thanks, I'll pass
the message along. That was her response to me. How
about needing a warrant to go into my office? So
I responded to her back talent and said, the message
is for you.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Well, and then just recently, uh, her nephew, Zach Scribner.
I don't know if it was this, Yeah, this must
have been happening already.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
Uh. He was.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
He was arrested for child and endangerment and number of
other charges and.
Speaker 6 (22:05):
Any well, he's never been arrested cow, that's right, he
has not.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
That's right. He was.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
He was he was stabbed in the back by one
of his kids for doing some very bad things. And
they just what happened on Friday. I think they he
just got charged. Was he is just charged with some crimes.
Speaker 6 (22:21):
Well, this coming week is going to be his first
court hearing, which is may first. He's of course entitled
to do process as you know, how we are, you know,
we we adhere to that reality, but certainly in this
particular line, there are some things that have been pretty
flagrantly different. I don't know what the intentions are. I
(22:41):
can't speak to other people's intentions, but as you know,
you know, our sheriff pointed out that, uh, you know
President Trump had to be mugshotted, fingerprinted. I mean that
was part of the process and part of the humiliation. Frankly,
that comes with, you know, the allegations of a crime.
And we know that our president went through all of
those processes, and next year, somehow, you know, this person
(23:04):
has has managed to get around those, you know, what
would seem like ordinary processes.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
And so yeah, I read where young Blood said that
the other day, and I thought it was pretty appalling
that you have a politician with the his aunt who's
the DA of the community, you know, running cover and
allowing him that when what's happened with Trump. But let's
let's change the subject. Letsia, you're a Democrat, I'm a Republican.
But we've always had We've known each other for a
long time, and we've had our agreements and disagreements, and
that's that's the beauty of this country. I think you
(23:31):
and I both come from the same cloth that it's
okay to have varying views because we're all, you know,
fighting for the same good and to improve the communities
of our communities. So I you know, you're there's a
big eir coming up. And I talked before you're online
about you know, the Wall Street Journal art editorial on
Saturday about Kevin or Newsom and and what's happened with
(23:52):
the oil industry in California. We just had another one
shut down or announced they're going to shut down a
plant over in uh Martinez area. So what's going on
down in Kern County and what are you trying to
do to help the oil industry in Kerrent County? Let
our residents and this message goes from northern Kern County
all the way up in Modesto, So let us know,
you know what's going on down there, because this affects everybody.
Speaker 6 (24:14):
Yes it does. And how we are the energy at
center for Southwestern United States, arguably in many ways global.
We do seventy percent, seventy to seventy five percent of
the state's fossil fuel production. We're very proud of that.
We're also sixty percent and growing of the state's renewable total.
So we actually position ourselves and see ourselves as energy experts.
(24:37):
Ten years ago tu Cloud twenty fifteen, this board that
I was a body of submitted our oil and gassy
ir and we said to the States, we have conducted
environmental analysis. This is a project level environmental impact report,
because we want to get people working, we want to
get our permits pumping, we want to triple our domestic
supply as matters of national security, interests, as matters of
(24:59):
you've being able to meet our needs, and increasingly shutting
down local production for foreign and domestic imports, which is
for so many reasons. How first of all stupid, so
we could agree on that, but just really bad decisions
for the business wise, and for our people, and for
our interests and for our national security. So what is
(25:21):
exciting about right now is June we are reintroducing what
we believe is the final step. Tell and I'll tell
you the statements by the governor to your point about
changes and how he sees the oil industry and their
place in American security. California well being with the fourth
largest economy in the world, California and our oil industry
(25:42):
is absolutely critical. And pivotal to our growth, our future,
all of it. So we have an opportunity right now
with what appears to be a changing you know, direction
of the state legend major now I can't believe it.
I don't know how many text messages and you know,
screaming matches we have had about what California Dems are
(26:03):
doing to Kerrent County's economy. But it looks like how
they may have gotten a change of heart or having
a change of heart. I'm just beside myself. It's very exciting.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Well that's good. So I mean, so are you saying
that you started the eier ten years ago and you're
just finishing it now or is this a new one.
Speaker 6 (26:20):
It's the same miir we submitted ten years ago tow
and through endless litigation because of sequel and because of
self interested players who have the capacity in California to
touch you by a thousand cuts until you can no
longer function. That's what we've had here. Are dwindling revenue
to the county. How is not to be overstated, I
(26:41):
promise you. When I joined the board thirteen years ago,
oil and gas revenue to our discretionary budget was thirty
two thirty three percent of our discretionary money. You know
what it is now.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
Tow twelve percent percent.
Speaker 6 (26:54):
And lowering and lowering. Wow, this is the impact to
our discret leationary budget. How we got all these fights
with the CiU. They're striking, they're upset with us, and
my message to them is we direct that anchor to
the State of California. Convey to your governor how significant
Kurent County's budget is as it relates to our ability
to pay our workers a decent wage and give them
(27:17):
some hope about their commitment to being part of the
Kern County family. So, tew, it's the biggest thing since
I've been supervisor. It's legendary, it's huge. I think this
lab election probably has something to do with it. Tell
you know, but here we are looking at a very
different scenario for Kerrent County's economic future. It would be
absolutely transform transformative and a huge boon to Kerrent County.
(27:41):
It's very very exciting how and by part of it?
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Well, okay, but what happens if the the ei R
doesn't move forward? Do they shut down your oil industry?
Do they You know what? You know, You're you're very
excited about it. I'm a little naive about, you know,
the details. So is is there something that is it
is different than other EIRs? Is there something that's more progressive,
it's more sustainable. What makes where you're at today so exciting?
Speaker 6 (28:11):
This is the cleanest oil production on the globe, on
the entire globe, Current County right here, we have the
cleanest processes, the cleanest systems. We have submitted that to
the state, but through their various methodologies of holding up
the approval of that r we're not allowed to issue
permits on new wells. And all they'll give us permits
(28:32):
for is to shut down our well to cap them.
I mean, it's just a slap in the face this.
If this is finalized and it is panonized that the state,
which I believe could happen tw that means Current County
can issue our own permits over the counter ministerial permits,
because it would be the state saying Current County, you've
done a sufficient job revealing the environment and now boom,
(28:56):
go get it, and we can start issuing permits.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
Okay, get it. That's a big deal. So in other words,
we're going to have local control over our oil growth
in California, and that oil is going to produce taxes
and revenues for your county and then control our gas
prices and everything else where. Your products are used here
in all of California, for our farmers, ranchers and people
that live here.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
That is part exiding.
Speaker 6 (29:20):
Well, how it's our own control. It's our own r
funded by the oil and gas industry to the tune
of tens of millions of dollars. Well, we've submitted that
r CAW. It was a twenty million dollar cost to
the oil industry that funded Kern County doing the reports,
put doing everything in our power to be the cleanest
operation in the whole world, to say, yes we care
(29:42):
about the environment. Yes we're raising our kids here and
the air they breathe matters too, like my boys I
raise here cow. But our people need to work. These
are eighty thousand dollars a year average jobs. This is
our discretionary money for roads, for law enforcement, for all
of it. How everything you dream your local government should do,
this is the funding mechanism. And for current County it's
(30:02):
always been oil. It's our covenant CAW that that's our
god given resource that allows us to roll up our
sleeves and get out, you know, with our roughnecks and
earn that eighty thousand dollars year average salary for local families,
local families right their money for current county. We need
to control it. We've done the adequate environmental review and
(30:23):
we are the cleanest in the world. And how that's
not a side thing. That's important. We want to be
able to look the Democrats in the faith and say, yes,
we have met your demands. Our industries have stepped up
with their science, with their technology, with their high paid lobbyists. Yes,
we've done it, and here we present it to you
as the finest package in the world. Now let us
get back to work.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Do you think Newsom will sign it? I mean, do
you think this the way he's changed his stripes and
realizing after he's lost the Nichia Venetian everywhere else? But
what about what Harvey? I think it's hard, is it?
Who's assembly a woman? Dillan down there? I think, okay,
what about do you think she would support it? You know,
I know, I know she is not voted positively on
(31:06):
some of the bills. Uh, you know, other than to
play the game at time but what about her fellow Democrats.
Do you think they're going to support this or just
say no? I mean, is that what happens in Sacramento?
These Democrats you know, Uh Newsome gets to say, oh,
I'm for it, and the rest of them, you know,
do his dirty work for him.
Speaker 6 (31:23):
Well, I think, okay, fair enough. I think a change
of heart and Newsom that has happened because of the election,
because of the tariff challenges. Well we could we could
just list out why it's such a bad idea not
to have your own domestic supply and not to have
it roaring on all engines, if you will. I think
that a change of hearts from Gavin is is really
(31:45):
taletelle about what the new world we're living in is
and how you've always known it and I've always known
it because we're down here and you and me work
at the Purple Center to get stuff done right. But
up there they don't. They don't really have a sense
of current county and unfortunately, past political relationships I don't
need to mention them, you know who they are have
caused us to have a relationship with Sacramento that's not
(32:08):
based on facts, based on a lot of fear and
a lot of ignorance about just how critical Curn County is.
We're number one an ag of three thousand sixty nine
counties where we're number one in in falsi field production
for California and sixty percent of renewables. We're edging close
to our fossil foot fuel numbers in renewables. Because we're
not limiting ourselves on ideology or party or somebody's next
(32:31):
election cycle. We say we're open for business. We are
in all the above energy policy county, and we want California,
at the fourth largest economy, to take lead from current county,
to join with us as partners, help us get the
maximum we add out of this incredible number one oil
basin in the world. It's also the number one warehouse
(32:52):
for carbon capture. We could do all of it right
here in Colna. We've demonstrated to one hundred plus years
that we have the expertise, we have this, we have
the stakeholders, but we can't push them out. How they
feel pushed out, they feel us versus them. And with
a change in heart from Gavin, I'm so proud of
him that he would look at this with a new
face and a new art and give us an honest
(33:14):
and honest, you know, opportunity to you know, get back
to where we were.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
And further well, I got to disagree, and I gotta
I gotta move on for commercial break here in a second.
But what they I agree he's had a change of heart.
But I think he's looking at the tea leaves of
last November and trying to figure out how his tea
leaves will be a little different come of four years
from now because he's in a he's in a tough
space with a lot of bad decisions he's made. But
I'm really excited about what you're you know, what you're
(33:42):
seeing and what you're doing down there.
Speaker 5 (33:44):
As This is the Trevor carry Show on the Valley's
Power Talk.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
All right, it's Toal Cloud. I'm in for Trevor Carrey.
It's great to be here. Thanks for listening. I hope
you've enjoyed the show today. I had a lot of
stuff going on, a lot of people calling in. We're
going to have two more great guests come at the
bottom of the hour, but I thought i'd talk about
a little bit something more local. Misty her, she's the
new going to be the new superintendent for Fresno unified
a fair amount of controversy. I'd say, you know, we
(34:12):
had a lot of great candidates, and from what I'm
hearing from my sources that they weren't really weren't considered
very well. There's there was a thought that that there's
a deal put in for Misty her and some of
the voting, the Shenanigans for city council, and a lot
of you know, a lot of innuendo that the mom
community would do this if you did that, and you know,
blah blah blah and different things out there. So you
(34:34):
don't know what happens or what was true or what's falls.
But the reality is, you know, you got to look
at who they interviewed, and they you know, they Gustavo's Baldeurs.
I'm saying the name wrong, I'm sure because I can't read.
From Beaverton, Oregon, former Des Moines, Iowa Public School superintendent
Thomas Ahart and Andrea Towncil Calvert County, Maryland Public Schools.
(34:56):
The three of them were the name candidates by the
GV Wire, but balder All bald Ross. Balder Ross, Yeah,
bald Ross. He was a superintendent of the of the
of the Year and twenty twenty by the American Association
of School Administrators. You know, and I know I've known
school administrators. We had we were lucky enough to have
one in in Sanger. Mark Johnson was one. And you
(35:18):
know all school administrators like this, they they their time
comes and their time goes and they move on to
different districts. It would have been nice to understand why
we didn't pick someone that was that well thought of
versus Missy. Her from what I'm hearing is, you know,
she's well liked, but she's going to bring the same
old thinking. There's going to be not much new. She's
had the position for a year and a half and
(35:38):
hasn't done much. She's done very little actually, from from
every thing I've been told for my sources, she and
and unfortunately, you know, when you're known like she is,
when she's been there a long time. I mean, I
think there's some people that are kind of exciting on
the Union side that say, hey, we can probably take
advantage of some of her her lack of skills, and
(36:00):
that's unfortunate as well. I think what we need to
see for Misty, it had been better to see from
the board as we should have went outside. We need
a change in culture. Nothing has improved since COVID at
Presdent unified. It continues to regress. It's been a long
time without a superintendent. There's been a lot of shenanigans.
I mean it's been I think almost a year and
a half without a leader. And I'm sorry if you
(36:23):
know a rudderless company without a leader, as this country
saw for four years.
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