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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Seeing in those stunned I'm Harry Hinton. Like time thirty eight,
Chamberlin left germinating today seeing in stun majority of Americans
back President Trump's mass deportation plan. They get a Devon
up in Arnold, Devon. If you're listening, I got your email,
he said. You know, he called Alcatraz the rock. He said,
(00:23):
say it in your say it and your best. Sean
Connery Alligator Alcatraz down in the Everglades in Florida, he said,
we said call it the croc, the croc instead of
the rock. Man, I got sent to the crock. What's
the croc? Alligator Alley many, maybe some of you didn't
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believe when I first played that Attorney General in Florida
out there talking about he had the rock and roll
music behind him. Remember he had that like two minute
video he put together. Then suddenly I heard, well Governor
Desamto saying they're gonna do it and build Pam. It's
going up, Pam. There you go, Bam, welcome to the
hotel Alligator Alcatraz. That in the Everglades. Some politician I
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saw was talking about, they're fearful if all those alligators
and pythons are around that they're not being housed in
proper buildings and can be attacked by the animals. Yeah.
Can you imagine in nineteen forty eight Edward R. Murrow
reporting on Congressman. It wouldn't have been a woman probably
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back then, but Congressman complaining about Alcatraz because if they escape,
they could be they could drown. Yeah, that's the that's
the point. You're missing. You're missing the point. Now, we
do have an illegal alien issue here in California, but
as I always say, many of them are good, decent,
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neighborly people, yet all have broken the law. Now, I
got a few suggestions to address the farm worker problem,
but I'm starting out with the nation without laws, it
turns into lawlessness. And now we've got to fight from
the left actually stop the enforcement of the law. So,
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if you are here illegally and you're saying, you know what,
you're right, it's not fair. I'd like to do this
legally or fairly, or come out of the shadows of
vet me. If you're here legally and you want to
raise your hand and say, vet me, let's get a
some kind of guest worker program. It might affect your family.
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You might be on the road three or four months now,
that would probably be lower. I can't say total pull anymore.
Lower down what's the word, lower down? Little lower down
the list of individuals that the government needs to come after. Now,
those good decent neighborly people aren't hanging out in the
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middle of the day now him at park, their park
in La No. The people that I'm talking about that
are here illegally that fall into that good decent category. Man,
they're working their fingers to the bone out in the fields.
I have enjoyed many bountiful pleasures coming in the last
month here. Just so we sat down with some jello,
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some raspberries, We had some peaches, strawberries, and of course
whipped cream. Got to have that mix on there. But yeah,
it's important. All jobs depend on the AG. What really
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depends on the AG only people that put it in
the groundwater and go out their ten to it, then
pick it and then they take it off. Now a
lot of machinery does that. And I understand that there's
a lot of people in AG that are United States citizens.
Whether you're a big farm, small farm, medium farm, that
you have just gone along with the whole system. I
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mean you're a bad person. I don't look at you
as you're proud of the problem. Okay, but we can
all admit that farmer, that illegal alien in this talk
show host that let's fix this. Let's vet people. And
if you are one of those good decent people and
you come forward out of the shadows and we get
to vet you, and you work hard, and you've got
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proof of that, you got an ag guy that says, yes,
they work. You know what we need to do. But
before we even get to that point, we got to
weed it out and get rid of the criminals. I
wish a lot of the maybe if the government and
this this idea just popped in my head right now.
Imagine if President Trump said, if you're one of the
good decent people here and you have no criminal records
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since you've been here, and you can show your working
and you're contributing, and you have a reason to be here,
come forward and we'll pay you two hundred dollars a
pop to tell us where some the criminals that you
know are or no to allow you to stay here
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and work, you got to tell us if you know
ten criminals. Now that gets too confusing, but you see
where I'm going here and incentive to come forward and
to do it the right way. The latest census of
AG reports in twenty twenty two. Last numbers that I
saw here at americanthinker dot com. If you want to
look at some of these numbers, there were one point
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nine million farms in America on eight hundred and eighty
million acres, producing five hundred and forty three billion dollars
in market value of AG products sold. President County bounces
back and forth with current at times, you know what
one's number one, the next year the other one's number one.
But we got a lot here and around us that
always are in the top five. This is this is
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the bread basket right here where we live. Now, out
of all those farms, how many do you think are
owned by corporations? I would have thought it would have
been so much higher than this. Only seven percent, eighty
five percent are owned by families and individuals, seven percent
by partnership. Now maybe here in the valley the percentage
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is a lot higher. Remember this is across America, the
census on AG. You know, Iowa, Tennessee, North Carolina, South Carolina,
it's all factored in here. Of this number one point
five percent of farms, twenty eight thousand, they said, hired
migrant workers. Now, ie going, it's not like you're going
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to come for and go yep, yep, yep. Here I
am yep. Oh no, I got three more I forgot
about here. Add them to the list here, government, Hey, government,
let me tell you the laws I'm breaking here. So
let's the that number out the winder. Let's see, there
were three point six million farm workers, forty percent of
them unpaid, meaning owners or their families worked on it.
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Of the paid farm workers, they said, thirty two percent
were Native Border Americans, seven percent form born, nineteen percent
unauthorized form born workers, forty two percent illegals. Twenty five
percent of all farm workers, they say, when you group
it all together, are legal aliens. I'm going to say
in the valley, it might be a little more in
that somebody out there. If you want to tell me
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I'm a whistleblower, I will tell you seventy eight percent
are illegal aliens. I've worked, you know. If somebody wants
I'm not out in the fields. Don't know how to
do that to count I know how to do that.
I just don't know how we would go out there
and count, Hey, I cleaned out a rabbit farm man. Yeah,
I put my ad out there in high school. At
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that point when I realized working out in that heat,
it spurred me on, and that's it's some hot working
in high school set and trap out in the desert
in the summer at a gun club down in that
bunker in that heat. I really said, I'm going to
try and do something where I don't have to be
in the So I applaud and don't know how you
do it every day with the intense heat out here. Now,
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are there Americans that will do the jobs that they
always tell us the jobs Americans want to do? There's
probably not enough these days. No, you would rather be
on welfare and make almost maybe close to something as
you could lunging lay on the cows, you get some doritos,
and you know, three of your group together to pay
the PG and E to keep it a little bit cool.
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You'd rather do that than go out in the fields.
So I think America the hard work ethic. It would
be tough to find what we would need for replacement.
If we've blinked right now and all the illegals left,
What that would do to add. So there needs to
be a system to have them come out of the shadows,
vet and go back to work. Now, I don't know
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how all that works out, but there would be a
lot of people that would not either vetted or not.
You got your V stamp vetted, and any money you're
going to send back to your home country, we're going
to tax. Yeah, we should do that, they said. Illegals
in California, this is a census of ag said eighty
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six per center for Mexico. They estimate California has anywhere
between three hundred and seventy five thousand and five hundred thousand,
half a million illegals workers in the field. They said
Florida has about three hundred thousand. Again, would not know
to know if that's correct or not. I would think
a lot of the people in the field's working might
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be trafficked. Having to It's like a loan man. You
got to make the payment back, You got to go
to work. Yeah, you can't hang up on the people
that would be calling you here. You know, if you've
got a credit you're calling you, you can hang up
on them. Go oh no, no, bankrupt, I don't care.
Click the people that traffic to you hear you don't
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hang up on so, yes, you do go to work.
So I would assume there's a lot of people you
would go after the first kind of job that you
could get without. Uh, I don't know legal citizenship, a
driver's license, social security number, because I'm sure I don't
know how the cartels might give you a three month pause,
you know, kind of like in sales, you know, to
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build up your own sale. You know, get something generated
here and then on commission and then suddenly payments are due.
I don't know how that works out. I'm so they
all got their own travel plans. We'll call them ABC
and D. I'm sure those people are working out in
the fields got criminal histories and we just don't know it.
You know, a lot of them that are legals working
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in the fields have stolen somebody's identity, false identity, and
that messes up people's lives to do that. So I say,
come out of the shadows. There'll be a grace period.
So get employers out there. They can get all their
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their farms, are working conditions, everything into compliance with law.
Maybe get them a work visa, and that grace period
will give the workers time to get documentation and passports
and they're valid IDs from where they're from. And I'd
never noticed it until just a few weeks ago the
Mexican consulate off earned a Northeast resident over there by Walmart.
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I saw the flags waving and all that. I was like,
I've driven by this, I don't know how many times
and I've never seen it. So get the Mexican consulates
here to help with the volume of work that's going on.
And if you really show off, well maybe knock some
off the tariff. But our illegal alien workforce problem is
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something that I don't think that we need to mess with.
And I do think that we can have a way
where and again I don't know, are their children allowed
to stay here? And twenty thousand dollars a year for
each kid in class? Nah? U, Well you can't separate. Well,
there's traveling salesmen that go on the road, there's baseball
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players and the rolling stones. There are other kind of
jobs that people have that take them away from their
family for a time period. Now, if you want to
stay for two seasons, you do your work visa for
two seasons. We just can't be responsible for you and
the entire family. This is not an orphanage. We take
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care of kids that have nobody else to take care
of them. We provide them food, education, and a roof
over their head. And so America is not an orphanage
and that needs a change. Now you got these studies
that where are you from. I'm from the Bay Area
Council Economic Institute. They said deportation of illegals that cost
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usay two hundred and seventy five billion dollars. Yeah, that's
probably coming from the same people that estimated high speed
rail costs as well. They don't believe anybody in calf
when it comes to money. Two hundred and seventy five
billion dollars, I don't know do the math on how many.
Let's just take the high end. If how many illegals
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are and say we gave him five grand eats, they
probably jump at that many of them when to go
back home? I bet it when he can come close
to two hundred and seventy five billion dollars, that's crazy talk.
Well we uh, during my last time since I was
on the air, Sean Diddy Combs. He's not out yet,
but uh, he's not going to be in prison forever either.
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And a few months ago we had attorney Roger Binactar
in studio and he, let's just say, he predicted what happens.
So he's going to join us here at the bottom
of the hour. We'll do a recap of the recap
of the recap of what's happening next. This is the
Trevor Cherry Show Condom Valley. He's powered talking to get
out of that high rise jail cell there as well.
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I don't think he even got bail. No bail. His
lawyer said that all the cell mates other applauded him
when he came back. He beat the man, he beat
the government how bad. We'll talk to Attorney Roger binak
Dark coming up here at the bottom of the hour.
This uh new political party of ln Musk is forming
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the American Party. What does he think He's Andrew Yang
or something. Do you think he's Ross Perot or something?
He is the richest man in the world. I heard.
I can't remember who I heard all this stuff I hear.
It just jumbles around in my head and then I
grab one and a thought. But they were talking about
how his border directors at his companies at some point
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are going to be like, hey, you're not focused. You know,
he is the richest man in the world, but everybody
kind of has to. It's sure he could blow them
all off, but that would not be financially beneficial to him,
and he wants to keep his well flowing. So border
directors at some point might be hey, either could be
a politician, or let's focus here on on these rockets.
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Let's focus here on owning artificial and tellig you know whatever,
they're focus on two parties, Democrats and very Bloodlikins. That's
Governor Jesse Ventura. That was his book. He said, it's
all wrestling. It was until President Trump came along Candidate
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Trump and became President Trump and said, no, we're in.
We're ending this globalism crap. No, We're going to make
America great again. That did say because I was so
soured on the Republican Party. My word back twenty thirteen
to a gang of Gang of eight back talking about
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how we need to as the Republican Party, we need
to get the Hispanic votes and so we need to
soften our stance. You know, go John McCain on illegal aliens,
you know, call them undocumented. Stop using that. We need them.
We need the Hispanic people that are around that are
citizens to like us. Some of their family members might
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be illegals. And if we're tough on it, well you
saw what happened. President Trump came along and the views
are changing. He's winning with Hispanics. Are you kidding me?
He's winning with Hispanics. Oh yeah, you got majority right
now saying deport you don't believe me again, CNN blasting
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it out a majority say yes, So you're not in
the minority. Don't believe them, just because they're standing on
a corner waving flags and they get you know, two
hundred and eighty seven people on you know, the flood
the intersection, and you going, wow, this is.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Support all immigrant who are here illegally. Fifty five percent
of New York Times Marquette sixty four percent, CBS News
fifty percent, ABC News with a slightly different question fifty
six percent. So what you're seeing essentially here is very
very clear indication that a majority of Americans, in fact,
when they're asked us one question, which I believe gets
that the underlying feelings, do in fact want at the
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port bowl immigrants who are here illegally. There's no arguing
with these different numbers because they're all essentially the same
across four different posters.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Yep, that's how America feels. We want people to obey
by the law. That doesn't mean you're a racist. Quit
that stop that it's worn so thin. Now what if
the lawn says, I don't care what the bord of
directors tell me. I'm a lawn musk and I'm on
ketamine and I'm gonna go do what I want to do, Right,
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Joe Rugan, I'm gonna smoke a doobi. I'm gonna get
twenty percent of the vote. I'll get some of these
other Republicans that were maybe against Trumper. Yeah, you know
what's gonna happen. You're probably help the Democrats win with
the super majority, and then they're gonna come along and
they're gonna throw you in prison. Probably, well, we'll see,
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it'll probably fizzle the dizzle nizzle. Let's talk about Snoop Dogg.
I wonder if he's ever going to get into politics.
He could, you know what, He could run for city
council in LA and win. He could run for I
hate to say it, he could probably run for mayor
of LA and win. These guys with money, man, they
can make influence in politics. So who knows, maybe Elon
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Musk will be coming along, maybe he'll be getting in
to the race. I just I ask about Snoop Dogg
because I watched something from about four years ago and
he said, I Mike, Yeah, I might consider that it's
spinning his beer down below. I might consider that. Well,
it looks like Sean Combs. I always said I was
gonna start calling him Diddy. Well that's what I thought.
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There were kids involved. Not that I'm condoning his behavior,
but he went from being one of the most disgusting
people in the world too. Yeah. I couldn't tell you
exactly who, but I knew that there are people in
that industry that behaved the way everything came out in court.
We've watched documentaries about r Kelly stop It. There's of
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course we knew that. I mean, we've heard about back
in the decades with Hugh Haffner on the underground tunnels
and guys. That's that's why it's a devil's den. Well,
Sean Combs, he's not going to be spending life in jail.
We'll talk to Attorney Roger Banactar. He predicted this outcome
a few months ago. We'll talk to him next. Right here,
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the assistent Trevor Cherry show on the Valley's Power Talk.
What's your kind of music?
Speaker 3 (19:31):
You know, I like it all. I like I love country.
On the fourth of July, it really it really hits.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Home, doesn't it fit? Yeah? Music to me is a
mood thing, all different kinds of music.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Out of the country music stars, who's your favorite? Don't
tell me Garth Brooks.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
No, I like Blake Shelton. I'm more pop any format
you go with, I'm gonna I'm gonna be actually be
the pop of that.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Well. I'm the pop version nice Well. I I grew
up in clovies, So Garth's my guy. The reason I
said Garth is because you and I are Run Paul fans.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
So that's how do you relate that to Garth? You're
just thinking every we like everything. Since we like Ron Paul,
all our other likes are going to be the same.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
You know.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
There's I like Garth so much that I got offered
tickets to go see when he was here? Did you yeah?
And I said no? And they looked at me, like
you like country and I said, yeah, but I don't
like stoplights, I don't like parking, I don't like crowds.
That's how leaving the living room is overrated to me.
Now that I it's called old man itis, I think.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Yeah, but that man's a legend.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
I know, I would have loved it if I could
blink and be there, then blink can be back home.
I do all that kind of stuff. Well, Sean Diddy
Combs is a legend in the in the rap world,
starting out as an intern and working his way all
the way up to a mogul. You know, labels, endorsements.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Music labels, booze, clothes world.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
King Cavin in FBI surrounded his house back to suff
He already knew he was in trouble at that point
when the video from Cassie, his girlfriend, beating in the
hotel was released. In that right when it kind of started.
Everything else have been rumor, allegations, blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
I mean there was always you know, the the quote
that you'll see a lot of stars say, is there
ain't no party like a Diddy party, right, And you
always wondered what that meant if the people in Hollywood,
if it made their eyebrows go up, and it was
something that stuck with them. What exactly would go on
at these didty parties. This is something that's been you know,
rumored of questionable ilk for years. But what really was,
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in fairness a clear domestic violence case involving Cassie, who
was also a musician, who who was apparently, you know,
trying to make a breakout. She she was a one
hit wonder at one point and then ended up his girlfriend.
I mean the hotel video which was played in this trial.
She testified about it. This trial. There were two female
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victims that prominently testified, Cassie the musician, and another female
that he was romantically involved with, which for some reason
they decided to protect her identity as Jane Doe. Jane
Doe also has a pending lawsuit apparently against Diddy in
civil court. But you know, when the video of Cassie
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came out in conjunction with her lawsuit, he went on
that public Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok apology tour saying how
he wasn't proud of what he'd done, et cetera. I
don't think he saw that FBI raid coming over the
horizon though, I mean they hit all of his homes
in multiple states at the same time, because they came
surging over the wall like they were looking for El Chopo.
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This was not some minor operation. This wasn't as if
I mean to me, it's you don't hit multiple homes
unless you believe that there is you're going to find
layers of evidence in each. But what were they looking
for at the time. Nobody really knew, Nobody really understood.
Then came what seemed to be the rumor that was
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fed from the Justice Department about this guy's involved in
human trafficking, and not only human trafficking, but human trafficking
of the worst kind of children. And then now here
we are, excuse me, let's back up. Then he gets
taken into custody. He's arrested September fourth. He actually turned
himself in. His lawyer's arranged for it all, hoping that
they'd be able to get in pretrial release or bond
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status is what's commonly known as. And to his shock
and horror, they took him into custody and he's been
there since September fourth of twenty twenty four. It seems
like longer, but he's been there and he's faced some
very very heavy charges, stuff that you typically don't see
in this context.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Now, I what last time I talked with you, I
was like, why didn't they come out to shoot the prosecution? Who,
by the way, thanks for reminding me, was James. I'm
afraid they're gonna kill me, kill me for me. FBI
director's daughter was the prosecution. And today if I call
a doc, I'm always like, hey, who'd you vote for?
Last time? We got to ask judges? Who appointed this judge?
Speaker 3 (24:05):
That's an excellent question. So this judge was actually appointed
in twenty twenty two by Joe Biden. He was confirmed
the following year, in March of twenty twenty three. That's
that's what I could dig up about him. With judges,
a lot of voting history is is is confidential, not surprising,
but you know he was appointed by Joe Biden and
confirmed by the Biden Congress in twenty three.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
You know, with the FBI raids so intense like you
described there, and then you know, I don't know if
it was weeks or months later, I think it was,
but we heard about like even like nine year old's
underage kids involvement and these ain't nothing like a Diddy
party kind of things. And I started to think, are
we going to hear about Oprah and Will Smith and
Pee Wee Herman? Who was all there? You know?
Speaker 3 (24:49):
I mean, who weren't we going to hear about? I mean,
Lebron James was out there. I mean there are clips
of Lebron on social media saying to Sean Combs, ain't
no party like a Diddy par part. We all know,
we all know about a Diddy party. We all know
you got to get ready for a Didty party. I
mean he's not and he's not the only one. I
mean there's if you you had Oh my gosh, how
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am I forgeting this? Is that I can see his
face right now. He is also a rap star, a
rap superstar, not just a regular star. Jay Z jay
Z is like, you know, we got to be careful
finishing each other's sentence and piling the wrong idea. So,
I mean, you have superstar after superstar connected to p Diddy,
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and uh so we never I mean we all thought
we were going to see the worst of all this
come out, just like you said that there's going to
be child trafficking and all these other things. And as
you and you mentioned this.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
I have to say, for a month when I heard
his name, I felt nauseous because I thought it was
under a I really did.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
I mean, because you thought it was also probably going
to tie into Epstein. I mean the prosecutor in this case.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
There's no list. We know that now there's a list,
open shutcase. Done nothing to see there. But yeah, I
was really thinking it would be Hollywood elites would be
uncovered to be at these parties and whatnot. But what
we heard was disturbing, you know, of what did come out,
how you treated Cassie. But on the flip side, she's
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texting him I can't wait.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
But let's back up for a second. Not just Hollywood elite.
Remember Sean Combs was heavily involved and get out the
vote efforts for a certain side politically, for a certain
leaning politically. I mean they had concerts, free concerts where
jay Z, Beyonce, many of these megastars were performing, and
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get out the vote efforts. So there was clearly the
idea that there is a political undercurrent to this, that
this that this charge, that this prosecution has some political
undercurrent to it. You can't say that that's a random
conspiracy theory because there are enough connections to enough significant people.
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I mean there are there's video with Barack Obama and
P Diddy talking about voting and how and and President Obama.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Was senator I think MTV the one I saw on
MTV in.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
An effort to do what get out out the vote.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
It shows how closely they were tied at an early
early age.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
So all of this is truly unique. And we have
yet to see someone of this stature charged in a
reco case where there wasn't some complex money laundering, drug trafficking,
some type of truly interstate or international criminal concerted effort.
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And that's what they started with in this case. And
when they filed it, I thought to myself, what are
they going to come up with? What are they going
to Is he smuggling drugs? I don't see any reason
for that. He's got huge, huge stream of revenue from
four different sources music, he has bottled water, he has
clothing brands, he's got alcohol.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
He has no reason to go corrupt. He's rich enough.
He's done it legit.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
He's printing money. He's printing money. You know. He's on
the A list for every new York, Miami, La event.
I mean, these are the these are the premier let
even there. I mean he I think I think he
would have visited the White House before he's been he'd
been a guest for the correspondence dinner. I mean, this
is a very prominent person who suddenly had every piece
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of real estate that he had raided overnight. All of
his is a security camera footage, his security camera seized.
Every one of his bodyguards are uh taken for questionings?
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Were suns handcuffed? Am I thinking? Right? Do they handcuff
some of them?
Speaker 3 (28:51):
You know, I can't speak to it.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
I do know that no one knew they did they
were at the house the raid in La.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
I know that there were people in the home and
they were they were temporarily detained, if not ultimately taken
into custody for questioning. There's a there's a bunch of
weird ties in this too. Like he had his head
of security in California was also Michael Jackson's head of security.
You know, there's just a lot of weird stuff going on,
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a lot of weird stuff going on.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Well, I not sure that that Hollywood things a small
little family, Yeah, and that doesn't want to telling each other.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
There are a lot of layers to this, onion, and
I don't know that we will.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Ever see with your theory there the political side of this.
Are you saying it was political retribution back because he
supported Obama?
Speaker 3 (29:37):
No, that is not That's not what I Well, first
of all, he was taking he was arrested and charged
under Biden, right, right, So I mean that that doesn't
really line up. Right, I'm saying that.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
There's there were some infighting. Then where's the political aspect?
You said it's not a conspiracy theory. I don't know
if I'm picking up then on well, I'm under saying.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
People say that with Epstein there were that there were
charges that there were ties with Stein politically on both
sides of the aisle. But you know, there there are
there were allegations that and I obviously, and I don't
know that we're ever going to see them now, but
that Clinton was on the flight logs that you know,
there were substantial that there were some very significant players
that were on the flight logs through Epstein Island. So
(30:18):
Clinton obviously preceded Barack Obama.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Tyer, I'm saying there's Republicans on there as well, and
people don't want this information out and they just squashed
it all. Well, I mean changing the subject back to
Ebstein here. But yeah, well so you think there's they
intertwined in some fashion.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
I am not saying that there. I have no affirmative
evidence that p diddiots can had anything to do with Epstein.
What I am saying to you is that all of
these happenings are what we're reading about them, is that
there there must be an undercurrent to this that we
aren't seeing that's beyond the baseline charges, and that actually
(30:57):
is reflected in the verdict. And you know, we could
talk about here. They charged him with RICO. RICO is
a criminal statute that was enacted in order to regulate
mafia activities and criminal organizations across state lines. It stands
for the.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Rats, and that was from the sex trafficking. If they
had proven that, that would have been a RICO charge
for the sex trafficking, yes and no.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Right you have to show that it's part of a
criminal enterprise. So RICO stands for the Racketeer, Influenced and
Corrupt Organizations Act. So if they would have found that
the sex trafficking that he was ultimately found guilty of
was for the purposes of a criminal organization or or
for the benefit of a criminal organization, then he could
(31:39):
have been found guilty of the Rico charge, which is
all this was ever about. Right now, he stands convicted
of a violation of the Man Act, which is transporting
somebody across state lines for prostitution. That is something that
you know, solicitation for prostitution, pimping, and pandering. These are
things that are illegal in most states. In each state
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where he is alleged to have engaged in this conduct,
that's illegal California and New York. It's illegal in both
of those states. He didn't need to be in a
federal court to prosecute this. That's what's kind of baffling.
Same with the domestic violence against Cassie, that infamous hotel
lobby video or hotel floor video where he's dragging her
(32:22):
violently by her hair and she's kicking and screaming. That
was an open and shut domestic violence case. If the
idea was to convict this guy for what they could
actually prove, for what they actually knew, he could have
been charged in any one of the counties where he
did these acts and it would have been a very
short trial. This was a fifty nine day federal jury trial.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
This was not something They never brought out any proof
of underage.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
There wasn't a single witness.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Yeah, well, how long will Sean Diddycombe serve based on
what we now know? That's going to be my quest
to Attorney Roger Banakdar. He'll answer it next. This is
the Trevor Jarry Show on The Fallacy's Power Talk. Attorney
Roger banak Dar, he's covered the Ditty case. Director Ryan
(33:12):
Nigel brought it to my attention when he sent me
a screenshot of you on on Fox. I guess some
you're busy with your own business, but I guess some
of these trials of course catch our attention here. But
you kind of went in depth with it and really
followed along with it.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Yeah, no, it was. It was a good time. We
were on Fox talking about it and also about the
Menendez brother trial recently as well. There's been some some
big things happening in the news, and this Didty case
is really it's something that's going to be for the
books for a lot of reasons.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
What was He actually explained the man act and was
he pimping somebody? Is that what they got him on?
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Right? So the Man Act is a federal statute which
essentially says it's illegal to take another person across state
lines for the purposes of prostitution. It's something that is
already punishable in most states as a felony within a locality,
but it gives the federal courts and the US prosecutors
(34:10):
a hook to go in and prosecute this. Where traditionally
you would see it is where people are trafficking people
against their will, like illegal immigrants, people oftentimes women that
are brought into the country under specialized visas and then
just disappear and then they're trafficked from state to state.
I've seen it in massage parlor cases. I've seen it
(34:32):
in child trafficking cases. You don't usually see it in
this context where you have the two victims that they
put on of this. The two people that he was
found guilty of trafficking for purposes excuse me, transporting for
the purposes of prostitution were the singer Cassie and another
young woman by who they kept under a pseudonym, Jane Doe.
(34:53):
But this really wasn't what most people thought of when
they hear the term prostitution. Prostitution, at least under California law,
is very transactional. It means two people which engage in
a sex act in exchange for some known amount of compensation,
some known amount of remuneration.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Excuse me, Roger, one moment, we have congress and Jim
cost a line too. Okay, I'm sure, go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
Sorry, I'm gonna take a ass on that one.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
The go ahead, I'm gonna take a drink.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
So under California law, what it typically contemplates is someone
going to another person and saying, I want this sex
act from you. There's an exchange of The legal term
is consideration money, some immediate transaction, a lot like buying
a bottle of water at a corner store, but for
an illicit sex act. Here, the two victims that testified,
(35:49):
the two people that he was found guilty of trafficking
or excuse me, transporting, were people that testified unequivocally, and
this went unimpeached, me agreed upon. We're in long term
relationships with Sean Combs, so each of them testified that
they believed that they were his girlfriend at various stages
(36:11):
and they had these long and multi year relationships. They
referred to the term love, that they loved each other
and that they were partners.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Do you think that built in the jurors mind like
it does mine, like you went along with it.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
I think inevitably it has to write it's human nature.
It's I mean, in seeing the videos that we saw
of Cassie, for example, there's no question that woman suffered
physical violence. It's not right, it's absolutely wrong. There's no
excuse for that. But a jury, you are really looking
at a pool of strangers, and that's why we have
(36:48):
the system that we do. The idea is that you
bring in members of the community that don't know you,
that are hopefully objective, and that will bring a sense
of emotional detachment so that they can view the evidence
for what it is and then call balls and strikes
based on whether the evidence proves the elements of each offense.
(37:08):
And in this case, I mean, as you and I
talked about, we expected that maybe some of the rumors,
some of the expectation was going to prove true about children,
for example, and that would have been the first thing
out of the gate in this trial, right when you
put your first witness on whether you're a plaintiff's attorney
or a prosecutor. That is when you start with a
(37:29):
blank canvas, and that is where you create your masterpiece.
That's where you do your best work. And we didn't
see any of that.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
And listen, you're doing great work right now. Would missus
benac gar be upset if I kept mister benat Garth
for another segmentary? We we got to talk about how
you know, how he you know, what's going to happen
to him? Is he going to get out? You got
another let's do it? You got another in you? Yeah,
all right, I think that that jury thought, okay, yeah,
that what everything that was happening. He was a really
(37:58):
bad boyfriend. He's a domestic abuse her boyfriend. You all
went along with it. You went along for the ride
with this. You knew exactly what you were doing. Like
if you hit me right now, boom, I would either well,
I would probably leave because I knew I had a lawsuit,
because I would fake our current talker anymore, and you
run my career.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
I could either hit you or run. I could flee,
I could leave. Those are two psychological reactions fight flight, Yeah,
those are the two natural things that your mind goes
to in that context, and that's one of the reasons
I think the prosecutors hammered so long.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
They insisted Trevor Jerry show London Valley's power dog
Seeing in those stunned I'm Harry Hinton. Like time thirty eight,
Chamberlin left germinating today seeing in stun majority of Americans
back President Trump's mass deportation plan. They get a Devon
up in Arnold, Devon. If you're listening, I got your email,
he said. You know, he called Alcatraz the rock. He said,
(00:23):
say it in your say it and your best. Sean
Connery Alligator Alcatraz down in the Everglades in Florida, he said,
we said call it the croc, the croc instead of
the rock. Man, I got sent to the crock. What's
the croc? Alligator Alley many, maybe some of you didn't
(00:44):
believe when I first played that Attorney General in Florida
out there talking about he had the rock and roll
music behind him. Remember he had that like two minute
video he put together. Then suddenly I heard, well Governor
Desamto saying they're gonna do it and build Pam. It's
going up, Pam. There you go, Bam, welcome to the
hotel Alligator Alcatraz. That in the Everglades. Some politician I
(01:07):
saw was talking about, they're fearful if all those alligators
and pythons are around that they're not being housed in
proper buildings and can be attacked by the animals. Yeah.
Can you imagine in nineteen forty eight Edward R. Murrow
reporting on Congressman. It wouldn't have been a woman probably
(01:29):
back then, but Congressman complaining about Alcatraz because if they escape,
they could be they could drown. Yeah, that's the that's
the point. You're missing. You're missing the point. Now, we
do have an illegal alien issue here in California, but
as I always say, many of them are good, decent,
(01:54):
neighborly people, yet all have broken the law. Now, I
got a few suggestions to address the farm worker problem,
but I'm starting out with the nation without laws, it
turns into lawlessness. And now we've got to fight from
the left actually stop the enforcement of the law. So,
(02:17):
if you are here illegally and you're saying, you know what,
you're right, it's not fair. I'd like to do this
legally or fairly, or come out of the shadows of
vet me. If you're here legally and you want to
raise your hand and say, vet me, let's get a
some kind of guest worker program. It might affect your family.
(02:37):
You might be on the road three or four months now,
that would probably be lower. I can't say total pull anymore.
Lower down what's the word, lower down? Little lower down
the list of individuals that the government needs to come after. Now,
those good decent neighborly people aren't hanging out in the
(02:58):
middle of the day now him at park, their park
in La No. The people that I'm talking about that
are here illegally that fall into that good decent category. Man,
they're working their fingers to the bone out in the fields.
I have enjoyed many bountiful pleasures coming in the last
month here. Just so we sat down with some jello,
(03:22):
some raspberries, We had some peaches, strawberries, and of course
whipped cream. Got to have that mix on there. But yeah,
it's important. All jobs depend on the AG. What really
(03:46):
depends on the AG only people that put it in
the groundwater and go out their ten to it, then
pick it and then they take it off. Now a
lot of machinery does that. And I understand that there's
a lot of people in AG that are United States citizens.
Whether you're a big farm, small farm, medium farm, that
you have just gone along with the whole system. I
(04:06):
mean you're a bad person. I don't look at you
as you're proud of the problem. Okay, but we can
all admit that farmer, that illegal alien in this talk
show host that let's fix this. Let's vet people. And
if you are one of those good decent people and
you come forward out of the shadows and we get
to vet you, and you work hard, and you've got
(04:28):
proof of that, you got an ag guy that says, yes,
they work. You know what we need to do. But
before we even get to that point, we got to
weed it out and get rid of the criminals. I
wish a lot of the maybe if the government and
this this idea just popped in my head right now.
Imagine if President Trump said, if you're one of the
good decent people here and you have no criminal records
(04:51):
since you've been here, and you can show your working
and you're contributing, and you have a reason to be here,
come forward and we'll pay you two hundred dollars a
pop to tell us where some the criminals that you
know are or no to allow you to stay here
(05:12):
and work, you got to tell us if you know
ten criminals. Now that gets too confusing, but you see
where I'm going here and incentive to come forward and
to do it the right way. The latest census of
AG reports in twenty twenty two. Last numbers that I
saw here at americanthinker dot com. If you want to
look at some of these numbers, there were one point
(05:33):
nine million farms in America on eight hundred and eighty
million acres, producing five hundred and forty three billion dollars
in market value of AG products sold. President County bounces
back and forth with current at times, you know what
one's number one, the next year the other one's number one.
But we got a lot here and around us that
always are in the top five. This is this is
(05:55):
the bread basket right here where we live. Now, out
of all those farms, how many do you think are
owned by corporations? I would have thought it would have
been so much higher than this. Only seven percent, eighty
five percent are owned by families and individuals, seven percent
by partnership. Now maybe here in the valley the percentage
(06:15):
is a lot higher. Remember this is across America, the
census on AG. You know, Iowa, Tennessee, North Carolina, South Carolina,
it's all factored in here. Of this number one point
five percent of farms, twenty eight thousand, they said, hired
migrant workers. Now, ie going, it's not like you're going
(06:36):
to come for and go yep, yep, yep. Here I
am yep. Oh no, I got three more I forgot
about here. Add them to the list here, government, Hey, government,
let me tell you the laws I'm breaking here. So
let's the that number out the winder. Let's see, there
were three point six million farm workers, forty percent of
them unpaid, meaning owners or their families worked on it.
(06:56):
Of the paid farm workers, they said, thirty two percent
were Native Border Americans, seven percent form born, nineteen percent
unauthorized form born workers, forty two percent illegals. Twenty five
percent of all farm workers, they say, when you group
it all together, are legal aliens. I'm going to say
in the valley, it might be a little more in
that somebody out there. If you want to tell me
(07:21):
I'm a whistleblower, I will tell you seventy eight percent
are illegal aliens. I've worked, you know. If somebody wants
I'm not out in the fields. Don't know how to
do that to count I know how to do that.
I just don't know how we would go out there
and count, Hey, I cleaned out a rabbit farm man. Yeah,
I put my ad out there in high school. At
(07:43):
that point when I realized working out in that heat,
it spurred me on, and that's it's some hot working
in high school set and trap out in the desert
in the summer at a gun club down in that
bunker in that heat. I really said, I'm going to
try and do something where I don't have to be
in the So I applaud and don't know how you
do it every day with the intense heat out here. Now,
(08:06):
are there Americans that will do the jobs that they
always tell us the jobs Americans want to do? There's
probably not enough these days. No, you would rather be
on welfare and make almost maybe close to something as
you could lunging lay on the cows, you get some doritos,
and you know, three of your group together to pay
the PG and E to keep it a little bit cool.
(08:28):
You'd rather do that than go out in the fields.
So I think America the hard work ethic. It would
be tough to find what we would need for replacement.
If we've blinked right now and all the illegals left,
What that would do to add. So there needs to
be a system to have them come out of the shadows,
vet and go back to work. Now, I don't know
(08:50):
how all that works out, but there would be a
lot of people that would not either vetted or not.
You got your V stamp vetted, and any money you're
going to send back to your home country, we're going
to tax. Yeah, we should do that, they said. Illegals
in California, this is a census of ag said eighty
(09:13):
six per center for Mexico. They estimate California has anywhere
between three hundred and seventy five thousand and five hundred thousand,
half a million illegals workers in the field. They said
Florida has about three hundred thousand. Again, would not know
to know if that's correct or not. I would think
a lot of the people in the field's working might
(09:34):
be trafficked. Having to It's like a loan man. You
got to make the payment back, You got to go
to work. Yeah, you can't hang up on the people
that would be calling you here. You know, if you've
got a credit you're calling you, you can hang up
on them. Go oh no, no, bankrupt, I don't care.
Click the people that traffic to you hear you don't
(09:56):
hang up on so, yes, you do go to work.
So I would assume there's a lot of people you
would go after the first kind of job that you
could get without. Uh, I don't know legal citizenship, a
driver's license, social security number, because I'm sure I don't
know how the cartels might give you a three month pause,
you know, kind of like in sales, you know, to
(10:16):
build up your own sale. You know, get something generated
here and then on commission and then suddenly payments are due.
I don't know how that works out. I'm so they
all got their own travel plans. We'll call them ABC
and D. I'm sure those people are working out in
the fields got criminal histories and we just don't know it.
You know, a lot of them that are legals working
(10:38):
in the fields have stolen somebody's identity, false identity, and
that messes up people's lives to do that. So I say,
come out of the shadows. There'll be a grace period.
So get employers out there. They can get all their
(11:00):
their farms, are working conditions, everything into compliance with law.
Maybe get them a work visa, and that grace period
will give the workers time to get documentation and passports
and they're valid IDs from where they're from. And I'd
never noticed it until just a few weeks ago the
Mexican consulate off earned a Northeast resident over there by Walmart.
(11:23):
I saw the flags waving and all that. I was like,
I've driven by this, I don't know how many times
and I've never seen it. So get the Mexican consulates
here to help with the volume of work that's going on.
And if you really show off, well maybe knock some
off the tariff. But our illegal alien workforce problem is
(11:43):
something that I don't think that we need to mess with.
And I do think that we can have a way
where and again I don't know, are their children allowed
to stay here? And twenty thousand dollars a year for
each kid in class? Nah? U, Well you can't separate. Well,
there's traveling salesmen that go on the road, there's baseball
(12:06):
players and the rolling stones. There are other kind of
jobs that people have that take them away from their
family for a time period. Now, if you want to
stay for two seasons, you do your work visa for
two seasons. We just can't be responsible for you and
the entire family. This is not an orphanage. We take
(12:27):
care of kids that have nobody else to take care
of them. We provide them food, education, and a roof
over their head. And so America is not an orphanage
and that needs a change. Now you got these studies
that where are you from. I'm from the Bay Area
Council Economic Institute. They said deportation of illegals that cost
(12:49):
usay two hundred and seventy five billion dollars. Yeah, that's
probably coming from the same people that estimated high speed
rail costs as well. They don't believe anybody in calf
when it comes to money. Two hundred and seventy five
billion dollars, I don't know do the math on how many.
Let's just take the high end. If how many illegals
(13:09):
are and say we gave him five grand eats, they
probably jump at that many of them when to go
back home? I bet it when he can come close
to two hundred and seventy five billion dollars, that's crazy talk.
Well we uh, during my last time since I was
on the air, Sean Diddy Combs. He's not out yet,
but uh, he's not going to be in prison forever either.
(13:33):
And a few months ago we had attorney Roger Binactar
in studio and he, let's just say, he predicted what happens.
So he's going to join us here at the bottom
of the hour. We'll do a recap of the recap
of the recap of what's happening next. This is the
Trevor Cherry Show Condom Valley. He's powered talking to get
out of that high rise jail cell there as well.
(13:57):
I don't think he even got bail. No bail. His
lawyer said that all the cell mates other applauded him
when he came back. He beat the man, he beat
the government how bad. We'll talk to Attorney Roger binak
Dark coming up here at the bottom of the hour.
This uh new political party of ln Musk is forming
(14:20):
the American Party. What does he think He's Andrew Yang
or something. Do you think he's Ross Perot or something?
He is the richest man in the world. I heard.
I can't remember who I heard all this stuff I hear.
It just jumbles around in my head and then I
grab one and a thought. But they were talking about
how his border directors at his companies at some point
(14:41):
are going to be like, hey, you're not focused. You know,
he is the richest man in the world, but everybody
kind of has to. It's sure he could blow them
all off, but that would not be financially beneficial to him,
and he wants to keep his well flowing. So border
directors at some point might be hey, either could be
a politician, or let's focus here on on these rockets.
(15:03):
Let's focus here on owning artificial and tellig you know whatever,
they're focus on two parties, Democrats and very Bloodlikins. That's
Governor Jesse Ventura. That was his book. He said, it's
all wrestling. It was until President Trump came along Candidate
(15:25):
Trump and became President Trump and said, no, we're in.
We're ending this globalism crap. No, We're going to make
America great again. That did say because I was so
soured on the Republican Party. My word back twenty thirteen
to a gang of Gang of eight back talking about
(15:45):
how we need to as the Republican Party, we need
to get the Hispanic votes and so we need to
soften our stance. You know, go John McCain on illegal aliens,
you know, call them undocumented. Stop using that. We need them.
We need the Hispanic people that are around that are
citizens to like us. Some of their family members might
(16:06):
be illegals. And if we're tough on it, well you
saw what happened. President Trump came along and the views
are changing. He's winning with Hispanics. Are you kidding me?
He's winning with Hispanics. Oh yeah, you got majority right
now saying deport you don't believe me again, CNN blasting
(16:32):
it out a majority say yes, So you're not in
the minority. Don't believe them, just because they're standing on
a corner waving flags and they get you know, two
hundred and eighty seven people on you know, the flood
the intersection, and you going, wow, this is.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Support all immigrant who are here illegally. Fifty five percent
of New York Times Marquette sixty four percent, CBS News
fifty percent, ABC News with a slightly different question fifty
six percent. So what you're seeing essentially here is very
very clear indication that a majority of Americans, in fact,
when they're asked us one question, which I believe gets
that the underlying feelings, do in fact want at the
(17:08):
port bowl immigrants who are here illegally. There's no arguing
with these different numbers because they're all essentially the same
across four different posters.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Yep, that's how America feels. We want people to obey
by the law. That doesn't mean you're a racist. Quit
that stop that it's worn so thin. Now what if
the lawn says, I don't care what the bord of
directors tell me. I'm a lawn musk and I'm on
ketamine and I'm gonna go do what I want to do, Right,
(17:36):
Joe Rugan, I'm gonna smoke a doobi. I'm gonna get
twenty percent of the vote. I'll get some of these
other Republicans that were maybe against Trumper. Yeah, you know
what's gonna happen. You're probably help the Democrats win with
the super majority, and then they're gonna come along and
they're gonna throw you in prison. Probably, well, we'll see,
(17:58):
it'll probably fizzle the dizzle nizzle. Let's talk about Snoop Dogg.
I wonder if he's ever going to get into politics.
He could, you know what, He could run for city
council in LA and win. He could run for I
hate to say it, he could probably run for mayor
of LA and win. These guys with money, man, they
can make influence in politics. So who knows, maybe Elon
(18:22):
Musk will be coming along, maybe he'll be getting in
to the race. I just I ask about Snoop Dogg
because I watched something from about four years ago and
he said, I Mike, Yeah, I might consider that it's
spinning his beer down below. I might consider that. Well,
it looks like Sean Combs. I always said I was
gonna start calling him Diddy. Well that's what I thought.
(18:43):
There were kids involved. Not that I'm condoning his behavior,
but he went from being one of the most disgusting
people in the world too. Yeah. I couldn't tell you
exactly who, but I knew that there are people in
that industry that behaved the way everything came out in court.
We've watched documentaries about r Kelly stop It. There's of
(19:04):
course we knew that. I mean, we've heard about back
in the decades with Hugh Haffner on the underground tunnels
and guys. That's that's why it's a devil's den. Well,
Sean Combs, he's not going to be spending life in jail.
We'll talk to Attorney Roger Banactar. He predicted this outcome
a few months ago. We'll talk to him next. Right here,
(19:25):
the assistent Trevor Cherry show on the Valley's Power Talk.
What's your kind of music?
Speaker 3 (19:31):
You know, I like it all. I like I love country.
On the fourth of July, it really it really hits.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Home, doesn't it fit? Yeah? Music to me is a
mood thing, all different kinds of music.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Out of the country music stars, who's your favorite? Don't
tell me Garth Brooks.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
No, I like Blake Shelton. I'm more pop any format
you go with, I'm gonna I'm gonna be actually be
the pop of that.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Well. I'm the pop version nice Well. I I grew
up in clovies, So Garth's my guy. The reason I
said Garth is because you and I are Run Paul fans.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
So that's how do you relate that to Garth? You're
just thinking every we like everything. Since we like Ron Paul,
all our other likes are going to be the same.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
You know.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
There's I like Garth so much that I got offered
tickets to go see when he was here? Did you yeah?
And I said no? And they looked at me, like
you like country and I said, yeah, but I don't
like stoplights, I don't like parking, I don't like crowds.
That's how leaving the living room is overrated to me.
Now that I it's called old man itis, I think.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Yeah, but that man's a legend.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
I know, I would have loved it if I could
blink and be there, then blink can be back home.
I do all that kind of stuff. Well, Sean Diddy
Combs is a legend in the in the rap world,
starting out as an intern and working his way all
the way up to a mogul. You know, labels, endorsements.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Music labels, booze, clothes world.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
King Cavin in FBI surrounded his house back to suff
He already knew he was in trouble at that point
when the video from Cassie, his girlfriend, beating in the
hotel was released. In that right when it kind of started.
Everything else have been rumor, allegations, blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
I mean there was always you know, the the quote
that you'll see a lot of stars say, is there
ain't no party like a Diddy party, right, And you
always wondered what that meant if the people in Hollywood,
if it made their eyebrows go up, and it was
something that stuck with them. What exactly would go on
at these didty parties. This is something that's been you know,
rumored of questionable ilk for years. But what really was,
(21:40):
in fairness a clear domestic violence case involving Cassie, who
was also a musician, who who was apparently, you know,
trying to make a breakout. She she was a one
hit wonder at one point and then ended up his girlfriend.
I mean the hotel video which was played in this trial.
She testified about it. This trial. There were two female
(22:01):
victims that prominently testified, Cassie the musician, and another female
that he was romantically involved with, which for some reason
they decided to protect her identity as Jane Doe. Jane
Doe also has a pending lawsuit apparently against Diddy in
civil court. But you know, when the video of Cassie
(22:22):
came out in conjunction with her lawsuit, he went on
that public Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok apology tour saying how
he wasn't proud of what he'd done, et cetera. I
don't think he saw that FBI raid coming over the
horizon though, I mean they hit all of his homes
in multiple states at the same time, because they came
surging over the wall like they were looking for El Chopo.
(22:44):
This was not some minor operation. This wasn't as if
I mean to me, it's you don't hit multiple homes
unless you believe that there is you're going to find
layers of evidence in each. But what were they looking
for at the time. Nobody really knew, Nobody really understood.
Then came what seemed to be the rumor that was
(23:05):
fed from the Justice Department about this guy's involved in
human trafficking, and not only human trafficking, but human trafficking
of the worst kind of children. And then now here
we are, excuse me, let's back up. Then he gets
taken into custody. He's arrested September fourth. He actually turned
himself in. His lawyer's arranged for it all, hoping that
they'd be able to get in pretrial release or bond
(23:26):
status is what's commonly known as. And to his shock
and horror, they took him into custody and he's been
there since September fourth of twenty twenty four. It seems
like longer, but he's been there and he's faced some
very very heavy charges, stuff that you typically don't see
in this context.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Now, I what last time I talked with you, I
was like, why didn't they come out to shoot the prosecution? Who,
by the way, thanks for reminding me, was James. I'm
afraid they're gonna kill me, kill me for me. FBI
director's daughter was the prosecution. And today if I call
a doc, I'm always like, hey, who'd you vote for?
Last time? We got to ask judges? Who appointed this judge?
Speaker 3 (24:05):
That's an excellent question. So this judge was actually appointed
in twenty twenty two by Joe Biden. He was confirmed
the following year, in March of twenty twenty three. That's
that's what I could dig up about him. With judges,
a lot of voting history is is is confidential, not surprising,
but you know he was appointed by Joe Biden and
confirmed by the Biden Congress in twenty three.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
You know, with the FBI raids so intense like you
described there, and then you know, I don't know if
it was weeks or months later, I think it was,
but we heard about like even like nine year old's
underage kids involvement and these ain't nothing like a Diddy
party kind of things. And I started to think, are
we going to hear about Oprah and Will Smith and
Pee Wee Herman? Who was all there? You know?
Speaker 3 (24:49):
I mean, who weren't we going to hear about? I mean,
Lebron James was out there. I mean there are clips
of Lebron on social media saying to Sean Combs, ain't
no party like a Diddy par part. We all know,
we all know about a Diddy party. We all know
you got to get ready for a Didty party. I
mean he's not and he's not the only one. I
mean there's if you you had Oh my gosh, how
(25:13):
am I forgeting this? Is that I can see his
face right now. He is also a rap star, a
rap superstar, not just a regular star. Jay Z jay
Z is like, you know, we got to be careful
finishing each other's sentence and piling the wrong idea. So,
I mean, you have superstar after superstar connected to p Diddy,
(25:35):
and uh so we never I mean we all thought
we were going to see the worst of all this
come out, just like you said that there's going to
be child trafficking and all these other things. And as
you and you mentioned this.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
I have to say, for a month when I heard
his name, I felt nauseous because I thought it was
under a I really did.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
I mean, because you thought it was also probably going
to tie into Epstein. I mean the prosecutor in this case.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
There's no list. We know that now there's a list,
open shutcase. Done nothing to see there. But yeah, I
was really thinking it would be Hollywood elites would be
uncovered to be at these parties and whatnot. But what
we heard was disturbing, you know, of what did come out,
how you treated Cassie. But on the flip side, she's
(26:19):
texting him I can't wait.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
But let's back up for a second. Not just Hollywood elite.
Remember Sean Combs was heavily involved and get out the
vote efforts for a certain side politically, for a certain
leaning politically. I mean they had concerts, free concerts where
jay Z, Beyonce, many of these megastars were performing, and
(26:43):
get out the vote efforts. So there was clearly the
idea that there is a political undercurrent to this, that
this that this charge, that this prosecution has some political
undercurrent to it. You can't say that that's a random
conspiracy theory because there are enough connections to enough significant people.
(27:05):
I mean there are there's video with Barack Obama and
P Diddy talking about voting and how and and President Obama.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Was senator I think MTV the one I saw on
MTV in.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
An effort to do what get out out the vote.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
It shows how closely they were tied at an early
early age.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
So all of this is truly unique. And we have
yet to see someone of this stature charged in a
reco case where there wasn't some complex money laundering, drug trafficking,
some type of truly interstate or international criminal concerted effort.
(27:47):
And that's what they started with in this case. And
when they filed it, I thought to myself, what are
they going to come up with? What are they going
to Is he smuggling drugs? I don't see any reason
for that. He's got huge, huge stream of revenue from
four different sources music, he has bottled water, he has
clothing brands, he's got alcohol.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
He has no reason to go corrupt. He's rich enough.
He's done it legit.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
He's printing money. He's printing money. You know. He's on
the A list for every new York, Miami, La event.
I mean, these are the these are the premier let
even there. I mean he I think I think he
would have visited the White House before he's been he'd
been a guest for the correspondence dinner. I mean, this
is a very prominent person who suddenly had every piece
(28:33):
of real estate that he had raided overnight. All of
his is a security camera footage, his security camera seized.
Every one of his bodyguards are uh taken for questionings?
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Were suns handcuffed? Am I thinking? Right? Do they handcuff
some of them?
Speaker 3 (28:51):
You know, I can't speak to it.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
I do know that no one knew they did they
were at the house the raid in La.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
I know that there were people in the home and
they were they were temporarily detained, if not ultimately taken
into custody for questioning. There's a there's a bunch of
weird ties in this too. Like he had his head
of security in California was also Michael Jackson's head of security.
You know, there's just a lot of weird stuff going on,
(29:17):
a lot of weird stuff going on.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Well, I not sure that that Hollywood things a small
little family, Yeah, and that doesn't want to telling each other.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
There are a lot of layers to this, onion, and
I don't know that we will.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
Ever see with your theory there the political side of this.
Are you saying it was political retribution back because he
supported Obama?
Speaker 3 (29:37):
No, that is not That's not what I Well, first
of all, he was taking he was arrested and charged
under Biden, right, right, So I mean that that doesn't
really line up. Right, I'm saying that.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
There's there were some infighting. Then where's the political aspect?
You said it's not a conspiracy theory. I don't know
if I'm picking up then on well, I'm under saying.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
People say that with Epstein there were that there were
charges that there were ties with Stein politically on both
sides of the aisle. But you know, there there are
there were allegations that and I obviously, and I don't
know that we're ever going to see them now, but
that Clinton was on the flight logs that you know,
there were substantial that there were some very significant players
that were on the flight logs through Epstein Island. So
(30:18):
Clinton obviously preceded Barack Obama.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Tyer, I'm saying there's Republicans on there as well, and
people don't want this information out and they just squashed
it all. Well, I mean changing the subject back to
Ebstein here. But yeah, well so you think there's they
intertwined in some fashion.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
I am not saying that there. I have no affirmative
evidence that p diddiots can had anything to do with Epstein.
What I am saying to you is that all of
these happenings are what we're reading about them, is that
there there must be an undercurrent to this that we
aren't seeing that's beyond the baseline charges, and that actually
(30:57):
is reflected in the verdict. And you know, we could
talk about here. They charged him with RICO. RICO is
a criminal statute that was enacted in order to regulate
mafia activities and criminal organizations across state lines. It stands
for the.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Rats, and that was from the sex trafficking. If they
had proven that, that would have been a RICO charge
for the sex trafficking, yes and no.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Right you have to show that it's part of a
criminal enterprise. So RICO stands for the Racketeer, Influenced and
Corrupt Organizations Act. So if they would have found that
the sex trafficking that he was ultimately found guilty of
was for the purposes of a criminal organization or or
for the benefit of a criminal organization, then he could
(31:39):
have been found guilty of the Rico charge, which is
all this was ever about. Right now, he stands convicted
of a violation of the Man Act, which is transporting
somebody across state lines for prostitution. That is something that
you know, solicitation for prostitution, pimping, and pandering. These are
things that are illegal in most states. In each state
(32:01):
where he is alleged to have engaged in this conduct,
that's illegal California and New York. It's illegal in both
of those states. He didn't need to be in a
federal court to prosecute this. That's what's kind of baffling.
Same with the domestic violence against Cassie, that infamous hotel
lobby video or hotel floor video where he's dragging her
(32:22):
violently by her hair and she's kicking and screaming. That
was an open and shut domestic violence case. If the
idea was to convict this guy for what they could
actually prove, for what they actually knew, he could have
been charged in any one of the counties where he
did these acts and it would have been a very
short trial. This was a fifty nine day federal jury trial.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
This was not something They never brought out any proof
of underage.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
There wasn't a single witness.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Yeah, well, how long will Sean Diddycombe serve based on
what we now know? That's going to be my quest
to Attorney Roger Banakdar. He'll answer it next. This is
the Trevor Jarry Show on The Fallacy's Power Talk. Attorney
Roger banak Dar, he's covered the Ditty case. Director Ryan
(33:12):
Nigel brought it to my attention when he sent me
a screenshot of you on on Fox. I guess some
you're busy with your own business, but I guess some
of these trials of course catch our attention here. But
you kind of went in depth with it and really
followed along with it.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Yeah, no, it was. It was a good time. We
were on Fox talking about it and also about the
Menendez brother trial recently as well. There's been some some
big things happening in the news, and this Didty case
is really it's something that's going to be for the
books for a lot of reasons.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
What was He actually explained the man act and was
he pimping somebody? Is that what they got him on?
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Right? So the Man Act is a federal statute which
essentially says it's illegal to take another person across state
lines for the purposes of prostitution. It's something that is
already punishable in most states as a felony within a locality,
but it gives the federal courts and the US prosecutors
(34:10):
a hook to go in and prosecute this. Where traditionally
you would see it is where people are trafficking people
against their will, like illegal immigrants, people oftentimes women that
are brought into the country under specialized visas and then
just disappear and then they're trafficked from state to state.
I've seen it in massage parlor cases. I've seen it
(34:32):
in child trafficking cases. You don't usually see it in
this context where you have the two victims that they
put on of this. The two people that he was
found guilty of trafficking for purposes excuse me, transporting for
the purposes of prostitution were the singer Cassie and another
young woman by who they kept under a pseudonym, Jane Doe.
(34:53):
But this really wasn't what most people thought of when
they hear the term prostitution. Prostitution, at least under California law,
is very transactional. It means two people which engage in
a sex act in exchange for some known amount of compensation,
some known amount of remuneration.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Excuse me, Roger, one moment, we have congress and Jim
cost a line too. Okay, I'm sure, go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
Sorry, I'm gonna take a ass on that one.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
The go ahead, I'm gonna take a drink.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
So under California law, what it typically contemplates is someone
going to another person and saying, I want this sex
act from you. There's an exchange of The legal term
is consideration money, some immediate transaction, a lot like buying
a bottle of water at a corner store, but for
an illicit sex act. Here, the two victims that testified,
(35:49):
the two people that he was found guilty of trafficking
or excuse me, transporting, were people that testified unequivocally, and
this went unimpeached, me agreed upon. We're in long term
relationships with Sean Combs, so each of them testified that
they believed that they were his girlfriend at various stages
(36:11):
and they had these long and multi year relationships. They
referred to the term love, that they loved each other
and that they were partners.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Do you think that built in the jurors mind like
it does mine, like you went along with it.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
I think inevitably it has to write it's human nature.
It's I mean, in seeing the videos that we saw
of Cassie, for example, there's no question that woman suffered
physical violence. It's not right, it's absolutely wrong. There's no
excuse for that. But a jury, you are really looking
at a pool of strangers, and that's why we have
(36:48):
the system that we do. The idea is that you
bring in members of the community that don't know you,
that are hopefully objective, and that will bring a sense
of emotional detachment so that they can view the evidence
for what it is and then call balls and strikes
based on whether the evidence proves the elements of each offense.
(37:08):
And in this case, I mean, as you and I
talked about, we expected that maybe some of the rumors,
some of the expectation was going to prove true about children,
for example, and that would have been the first thing
out of the gate in this trial, right when you
put your first witness on whether you're a plaintiff's attorney
or a prosecutor. That is when you start with a
(37:29):
blank canvas, and that is where you create your masterpiece.
That's where you do your best work. And we didn't
see any of that.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
And listen, you're doing great work right now. Would missus
benac gar be upset if I kept mister benat Garth
for another segmentary? We we got to talk about how
you know, how he you know, what's going to happen
to him? Is he going to get out? You got
another let's do it? You got another in you? Yeah,
all right, I think that that jury thought, okay, yeah,
that what everything that was happening. He was a really
(37:58):
bad boyfriend. He's a domestic abuse her boyfriend. You all
went along with it. You went along for the ride
with this. You knew exactly what you were doing. Like
if you hit me right now, boom, I would either well,
I would probably leave because I knew I had a lawsuit,
because I would fake our current talker anymore, and you
run my career.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
I could either hit you or run. I could flee,
I could leave. Those are two psychological reactions fight flight, Yeah,
those are the two natural things that your mind goes
to in that context, and that's one of the reasons
I think the prosecutors hammered so long.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
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