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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Sunstein Sessions on iHeartRadio, Conversations about issues that matter.
Here's your host, three time Grasie Award winner, Shelley Sunstein.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
I want to introduce you to a person that has
done so much good throughout his whole life. His name
is Bill Keegan. He was a Port Authority Police lieutenant
during the nine to eleven attacks on the World Trade Center.
He served as night operations commander of the World Trade
Center recovery teams, and as some of you know, that
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is an operation that lasted for seven months after September eleventh,
and then he went on to found Heart nine eleven
in two thousand and seven, which is a disaster response
organization of volunteer first responders, construction workers, and nine to
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eleven family members that have responded to three hundred and
sixty two disasters in sixteen states and six countries. They
rebuild communities, they restore hope, They help individuals and families
rise above adversity. And I was telling Bill before we
went on the air, I've been active in the nine
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to eleven community for most of the twenty four years
after and I never met Bill, and I never heard
of his organization and I'm like, what the so, Bill,
what's the deal? Why have I not heard of all
this good that you do with your group?
Speaker 3 (01:32):
And I wish I had a really good reason.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
It's kind of a fault of ours when you talk
about police and firefighters and union construction workers. We do
the job and we leave. We don't look for pats
on the back. We don't look to amplify what we've
done to press or to others. And I think that
that's one of the faults of Heart nine to eleven,
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is that we are not publicity seekers, more about getting
a job done and impacting on people's lives when they're
in such dire straits, when they're desperate, we come in
and our goals are to make them better than before
they met us. We hear it all the time, whether
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it's Brooklyn following Sandy Haiti, New Orleans, Tennessee, Oklahoma. Everybody
looks at us and says, you know, I can't believe
that you people from nine to eleven are here to
help us. We should be helping you. And the one
thing I say to them is you did help us
that when we were struggling in those nine months of
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the recovery and shortly thereafter you did come and help us,
and now we're returning to favor. We're taking our expertise,
our skills, our experiences, both tactical and also emotional, and
we're taking those lessons learned to communities such as yours
that are suffering similar fates.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Give us an example of something recent that you were
involved in, and take us from start to finish.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
So recently we've been hit with a lot of tornadoes
across the South. They're devastating, devastating. One day you have
a beautiful home. The next day you have a lot
of lumber sitting on top of where your home needs
to be. And people just look at that. Think about it.
They've struggled all their lives. They've worked very hard. They've
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accumulated this home where they've raised their children and maybe grandchildren,
and now it's gone. Their memories are gone, the pictures
are gone, the furniture is gone, everything that they put
put together is gone. And now they don't know where
to begin. And that's where Heart nine to eleven steps in.
And I think that that's one of our greatest exports
from ninety eleven is the lessons learned you can recover
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you can move on. This could be your greatest challenge,
but you can meet that challenge and we're here to
help you. And so it's not just like I said,
the tactical skills of removing the materials and then rebuilding them.
It's also that sense of hope that you know there's
a better day coming, when people are really struggling with
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their own faith and with the hope for a better day.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
How many people are on your team and do the
same people respond all the time or does it rotate
or how does that work?
Speaker 3 (04:27):
So it's very interesting.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
We have core people from the different organizations that we're
very involved in, Like I said, the FD and Y
and YPD, Portotharty Police Department and Reunion building trades carpenters.
You know, we're all work together down at nine to
eleven and now we're working together still and we have thousands,
literally thousands of volunteers that have worked with ART nine
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to eleven. Let me give you another example of maybe
a better example of Puerto Rico following Hurricane Maria.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
We had just been in Texas with her Kane Harvey.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
We were in Florida and then all of a sudden,
Maria hits Puerto Rico.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
We were there for two years.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
We rebuilt over four hundred homes in Puerto Rico, and
we were able to put somewhere between twenty to thirty
volunteers each week in Puerto Rico to rebuild the communities there.
And so when you say how many, we probably have
a core group of about three or four hundred, and
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then beyond that we have thousands that'll come for one
week at a time or a few days at a time.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
And were all these people also involved in nine to
eleven or did it grow after nine to eleven?
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Think that such a great question because the core basically
our people that went through nine to eleven and founded
Heart nine to eleven and laid the fundamental of what
the organization was going to be. But we've been able
to attract people that weren't even on the jobs on
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nine eleven. But it's such a part of our culture now,
it's part of our tradition, our legacy of selfless sacrifice
that so many of them wanted to be part of
Heart nine eleven because it was their way of touching
what was so important in their culture, whether it be
in a firehouse, police precinct, or on a job somewhere
in Manhattan building a beautiful building.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
So I'm speaking to Bill Keagan. He was a Port
Authority Police lieutenant during the September eleventh attacks on the
World Trade Center. He served as Knight Ops commander of
the World Trade Center Recovery Team, and then he went
on to found Heart nine to eleven in two thousand
and seven, which is a disaster response organization of volunteer
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first responders, construction workers, and nine to eleven family members,
and they've responded to more than three hundred and fifty
disasters in sixteen states in six countries. And you were
recently recognized by the rush Berry Making a Difference awards,
So you know, I know you don't want these, but
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you're getting the honors. You deserve these honors. So what
was that like for you?
Speaker 4 (07:09):
Well, you know, when I receive an honor, obviously it's
on behalf of all of those volunteers I just referenced,
and in so many ways, it's the sacrifices of the
people we lost on nine to eleven. That's really who
I'm accepting those awards for. So it's a little bit
easier when I put it in that context to be applauded,
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and it is important that these people be able to
single out people such as myself and the other eight
people that were given this award and get some monetary backing. Also,
it is important that we remember nine eleven. We remember
what came from ninety eleven, how the country came together,
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how we all fought together, and frankly, you know, given
the circumstances we're facing right now, we could use a
little bit more of that in this country, where we
just come together to solve problems instead of looking at
each as enemies. And that's what really started heart nine eleven.
I wanted to continue that growth, and the rush Berry
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Award kind of validated what we've been doing that some
twenty something years later, they're still recognizing people that had
worked in ninety eleven and continued to work.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
So it was a wonderful award.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
I was surprised when I went up to Gramapo College.
It's such a beautiful area and it was such a
great event. They did a fantastic job of honoring the
different charities and explaining what we do. So I was
really honored to be part of that ceremony.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
So let me ask you, how is your health.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
So unfortunately, I thought I had escaped. Much of the
illness that you hear about so often was there for
the entire nine months. I worked six nights a week
for twelve to sixteen hours a night, and I was
on the pile. So I was the operations, you know, search,
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rescue and recovery, and so I was looking back, you know,
twenty years I'm like, Wow, I'm really lucky that I
don't really have any health problems. I was fine, But unfortunately,
in December of twenty twenty three, I received a diagnosis
from the Robert Wood Johnson Barnabas Cancer Institute that I
have a stage four cancer that had started in my
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left kidney, went to my lymph nodes, to my lung
and into my brain.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
And I've been fighting that.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
Good battle with some great doctors at Robert Wood Johnson,
and we so far have stabilized all of the tombors
and legions, and some of them have decreased over time.
So I'm really pleased that medicine has come so far
in the technology that they now have these imminiotherapy drugs
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that have really triggered my own immunity systems and fighting back.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
On the cancer you know, I'm so sorry to hear that,
And frankly, I'm not surprised because the people who were
diagnosed with nine to eleven illnesses in recent years, almost
all of them who were down on the pile for
all those months at first symptom were diagnosed with stage
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four cancers. Because the nine to eleven cancers are like
cancers on steroids. I mean, we've never seen anything like them.
I'm assuming you're part of the World Trade Center Health program.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Thank god, thank god for that programs.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
So what did you think with like these job cuts
this they're fired, they're hired, they're fired, they're rehired for
the next few months. I mean, it's got to be
like pulling your hair out, because these programs know how
to treat these particular monsters of nine to eleven illnesses.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
The expertise that had developed over the years was extraordinary,
and to let it go and to sort of try
to start again was I think foolhardy, and I think
that they've learned their lessons as they're trying to put
this team back together. It is extraordinary when you hear
things like that. And I was perfectly healthy. I didn't
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know that there was anything wrong with me until they
took an MRI of my brain. And then my next
question was is, well, okay, how do we treat this?
And then they told me how to treat it, and
then they told me what the cost was, and I
looked at him and I said, I'm a police lieutenant.
I can't afford that. And then they said, don't worry
about it. The nine to eleven healthcare will take care
of it. And so for the last eighteen months, my
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medical are being paid by the people at Rutgers from
the healthcare system. And I can't tell you what a
load it is off your mind and my family to
not have to sell things to move to other places
and we could stay right here at home and get
the best treatment that's available in this world.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
And as you should as a nine to eleven hero,
anyone who was down there working, and it's not just
the people who were working, you the heroes who just
never gave up. It's the children who were told a
week later that it was safe to go back to school,
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the residents who went back to their apartments and their
homes because they were told the air was safe to breathe.
These are the innocence, the innocent victims of September eleventh,
because September eleventh, as we know, didn't end with September eleventh.
But Bill, despite this stage for cancer and that you're
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fighting these health issues, you're still doing the work with
your group Heart nine to eleven. You're still personally responding
to these emergencies.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
My goodness giving us a mission or purpose. And we
all know in life we need a purpose. If we're
looking beyond whatever's going on in our own lives and
helping others, we heal ourselves.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
And that's how I look at every day. I get up,
I get.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
On my computer, I talk to my teams, and we
develop programs for things we're going to do in the
near future and beyond. One of the things that I'm
really proud of is that from ninety eleven we learned
how you can overcome the emotional challenges of loss of grief,
and we worked with the Harvard School of Medicine, Yale
School of Medicine, and we're working right now at Mount
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Sinai to develop these programs and share them with others
that are going through very difficult times.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
I know you have a fundraising effort going on for
your wonderful group Heart nine to eleven. So tell us
about that. We only have like a minute left.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Yeah. Sure.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
So for the last twelve years, we've had a big
golf event in Liberty National Golf Classic. It is on
the border of Jersey City, on the Hudson River, a
mile away from the World Trade Center.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Compound.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
And it's a great because you're looking at the Statue
of Liberty and you're looking at the World Trade Center,
and everybody buys in and wants to give and enjoys
being on a fantastic golf course.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
And they all are there for the right reasons.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
They want to keep supporting us and allowing us to
do the great work.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
That we've been doing over the last eighteen years.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
And you also have a donation campaign going right this
nine dollars and eleven cents to Heart nine to eleven.
How do people donate?
Speaker 4 (14:58):
So if you go to our website Heart nine one
one dot org Heart nine one one dot org, you
will see the nine to eleven campaign.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
And I did that on purpose.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
It's only nine dollars and eleven cents because I want
a lot of people to be able to be involved,
to say that they've helped in the nine to eleven efforts,
and so if they go to the website, it's very
easily found. And I would very much appreciate help in
the nine to eleven campaign.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
So it's Heart nine eleven dot.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Org, Heart nine one one dot org.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Okay, thank you so much. A true hero, Bill Keegan.
You're just an extraordinary human being and I'm just amazed.
You just blew me away, absolutely blew me away. Thank you,
Thank you so much for everything you do.
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