November 26, 2023 • 13 mins
Original Air Date: November 26, 2023
Nearing 40 and single, Jamie Megargee, producer of “Cubby & Christine Mornings” on 106.7 Lite FM recently decided to freeze her eggs which has freed her to find the man to love, marry and parent her future children.
Nearing 40 and single, Jamie Megargee, producer of “Cubby & Christine Mornings” on 106.7 Lite FM recently decided to freeze her eggs which has freed her to find the man to love, marry and parent her future children.
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(00:00):
Welcome to Sunstein Sessions on iHeartRadio,conversations about issues that matter. Here's your
host, three time Gracie Award winner, Shelley Sunstein. Good morning, and
I want to introduce you to awoman who is right next door to us
at Q at the Q Studio.She's in the Light FM studios. She
(00:21):
is Jamie mcgargy and she is theproducer of Cubby and Christine Mornings. And
the reason she is here not totake my job now. She is here
because we are giving thanks this weekend, and Jamie is most giving thanks for
the decision to freeze her eggs.Absolutely, this was a decision I had
(00:44):
a long time in my head thatI had wanted to do, and I
finally did it in the springtime.I worked with r May Reproductive Medicine Associates.
They were a dream to work withand they helped bring my vision to
life. And I had three roundsof egg gratry and now I have fourteen
eggs on ice. As they say, so when I am ready to start
(01:06):
my family, it's kind of likeI'm pushing the pause bend right now,
which is a beautiful thing which wedon't normally get to do. In life,
and when I'm ready, they'll bethere waiting for me, and I'll
be able to use them when I'mready for that. What made you come
to this decision? Well, sinceI was five, I knew I wanted
to be a mom, and youknow, I will be forty next year,
(01:27):
and I'm not you know, Idon't have a husband right now,
and I'm not really in that kindof full out dating mode yet. So
I figured now's the time. Ibetter do it now before it's too late.
So I decided to go through withit. And now I can relax
and hopefully date a little bit andthen find the person that I'm going to
end up with, and then we'llhave those eggs if I need them,
(01:49):
you know, waiting for me,waiting for us. It wasn't exactly an
easy process for you. I meanno, for some people, they just
go for the egg retrieval and it'sjust easy piecy. But you waited until
your late thirties. Ideally, ifyou really are set on okay, I
want to live my life, Iwant to travel, or I'm not dating
(02:12):
yet. Really, between the agesof like twenty eight and thirty three is
the most ideal time to do it, it is a little bit on the
more expensive side, so that waspart of what factored in for me,
and then I thought, oh,I'll do it at some point, and
then it finally came to a pointI'm like, oh, I better do
this. And most some women theideal amount of eggs you want to have
is about twenty because you know,not all of them are viable and can
(02:37):
be frozen once they collect them fromyou. And so unfortunately, just my
own personal journey, my AMH numbersthe anti malarian hormone that when they did
all these testamy weren't so great.So my first round we only got one.
So that made me think, Okay, you know, while my body
is primed and ready, let's dothis again. And so now I have
(03:00):
fourteen, which is a pretty healthynumber of eggs to have to be frozen,
which I am extremely thankful for ourmand switching up medications and the procedure
that I was on and everything.So I have those. Now you had
to give you your self shots.Yeah, so you can. You're usually
on like a hormone pill, andthen you have to do a couple injections
(03:21):
like around your abdomen in the morningand night and depending on like where your
numbers are at. I was ona higher dosage of most of the hormones
just to help me produce more sosome women it's I think it still is
probably the same amount of shots,but just amount of different doses. And
I didn't realize that it's so specific. So every couple of days you have
(03:43):
to go for blood work in anultrasound and based on those results, they
can tell you by that night,Okay, this is what it looks like
on your on your tests, weneed to adjust your hormones a little bit.
So they amazing. It's so it'sso down to the day that it's
so specific. You have to gothere so early in the morning so they
have the results to let you knowby that night. Okay, we're looking
(04:06):
great. Keep your dosage the same, or you know what, let's push
this one up a little bit.And our may was so great in looking
at my numbers and really just cateringthe program specifically to me perfectly. There
were side effects though, with allthese treatments, right because whenever you fus
with the hormones, Yeah, sideeffects a little bit of waking, which
(04:30):
is that's coming off now, whichit can happen, and that's just you
know, that's what your hormones do. A little bit of headache sometimes,
and I would say probably the biggestthing though, was just like a little
bit of fatigue. I was prettytired, yeah, And how long did
it take for you to bounce backfrom all that? After each So I
did three consecutive rounds. So forme it took a little bit longer than
(04:53):
probably than most people because I didit back to back. But after a
while and you balance back out,I mean tired for a while, but
in just like a little bit ofthe weight stuff. But other than that,
it wasn't too bad. After theprocedure, you felt pretty good,
all right. So you have fourteengood eggs right like these are? Do
you know that all these eggs arepotential waiting for the sperm guys? Women?
(05:17):
Wait? Yeah, waiting for thesperm girls. Yes, let's get
it right. So what happens isso the reason they want you to have
twenty. So let's say they havetwenty. I feel like they have fourteen
for me. I didn't realize they'reso delicate that when you go to use
them, some of them can diein the thawing. Process, and then
(05:38):
also when they saw them and thenthey look in the microscope, you won't
be able to actually know if it'sa good egg versus a bad egg until
they actually try to use it oractually look deeper into it. So that's
why they want you to have twentybecause let's say, maybe fifteen or good
out of that twenty. So eventhough I'm fourteen, I don't necessarily know
(06:00):
so specifically yet how many of thosefourteen are like perfect eggs. And so
it's a gamble, you know,right, It's still a gamble. Yeah,
my doctor said it's not a lottery, but it's sure as a raffle.
So the higher amount you have,the better you are off in the
future. And there's some women Iknow that have gone and they've gotten eighteen
(06:21):
twenty first try. It's just youknow, my body specifically, you know.
Oh, so how soon would theyknow after they do the sperm and
the egg meeting? You know,I don't know. But when I was,
when I was in the real worldor in the old school world,
(06:41):
you had to wait until you misseda period. I'm guessing though probably it
would have to be that now becauseyou're still getting pregnant. And then I
guess you have to wait. Theyprobably have such high scientific hormone testing that
they probably could know within a coupleof weeks. But I'm sure there is
a wait. I'm not at thatpoint, yeah, but I'm sure there
is going to be some waiting,a little bit of a waiting period,
(07:03):
waiting to know if it took.So I'm speaking with Jamie McCarthy. She
is the producer of Kubby and Christinemornings on Light FM and their studios right
next door. We're next literally nextdoor. Yeah, we share the same
printer exactly. So at what ageis the cutoff for using these eggs?
(07:27):
What is the I mean for younot the egg well for me specifically,
I would say probably, you know, after a few years and in my
forties. But this was fascinating mydoctor. I went in one day and
doctor Maslow and she was so excitedbecause she implanted a woman who was fifty
(07:47):
her eggs have been frozen for overten years and it was like a tremendously
successful pregnancy. Wow. So theyreally can be frozen for a decade,
you know. So if you're twentyeight and you want be he's at almost
forty, you could do it now, and then you can be up to
a fifty. I guess as longas your hormones are still functioning well and
you have your period and you canbecome pregnant, then there's no problem.
(08:11):
Tell us about the stress that youfelt dating and feeling like you had to
find your husband now because you wererunning out of time before. This is
Jamie pre egg freezing process. Ibasically stopped dating because I was at the
(08:31):
point where I was getting up therein age and a family was so important
to me that it would be almostbefore I froze my eggs on the third
date. Like, so you thinkwe're gonna do this, Like, you
know, we're really get married?Where do you want kids? Do you
want kids? Do you want todo this? So? I feel like
the intensity coming off of any womanwho was in that situation is too much.
(08:52):
So I kind of like took myselfout of the game. And then
our may presented itself in such abeautiful opportunity for me, and I jumped
on that. And now I feelwith fourteen on Ice as they say,
I feel like I can go backinto the dating world and take a breather
and take my time a little bitrather than like you want to get buried,
(09:13):
like you know, asking all thesequestions that would be clearly inappropriate on
the first few dates. So Ican now like calm down a little bit
in terms of dating. But atwhat point in the dating process do you
bring up having kids if some ifyour potential partner wants to have kids or
not, I mean don't. Idon't know any because I wasn't in what
(09:35):
My first pregnancy was a total surprise, so it was a plan. So
yeah, so this is not myworld. Yeah, I would say me
specifically the age where I'm at andwhat I want to be doing with my
life. If I go out withsomebody and we hit it off, I
would say by the second date,I would say, so, what do
you visions for yourself in the future? Do you plan to have a family?
(09:56):
Like not down their throat crazy questions, but like get their general overview
of what their life looks like andif it doesn't match with mine, I'm
out, Like I'm not I'm notbessing anymore with this, Like I'm not
dating for just part of my languageas and giggles, you know, I'm
just I want to find the husbandand the person who I am to have
a family with and am I settlingeither? I'm not. It just because
(10:18):
somebody says, yes, I wantto have a family doesn't mean that they're
a great match for me. Butit will determine whether I continue dating them
or not to see where they're at. You did online and apup dating?
Yes, So what was your experiencelike? Now? How long did you
do it? Oh? I didit for fifteen years? Fifteen years?
Yeah, and Shelley, here,I am so clearly. Oh yeah,
(10:41):
here, I am. So itis it did not work out well most
of I would say ninety percent ofthe stories are not even appropriate that I
could repeat what has happened to me. But yet so many people I don't
judge it though, because so manypeople on our floor are radio friends.
They're all married and have kids orengaged off bumble or a Tinder or plenty
of fish, And it works greatfor some people. For me personally,
(11:05):
I don't know really what went awry, but it did not work out for
me. What was the weirdest one? Oh my god, Uh, there's
got to be something add that Ican't even say on here. I don't
think you can't why it's so inappropriate? So inappropriated. Things they've said to
me, pictures they've sent to me, things that they have done before we
(11:26):
even met for the date where Ihave canceled the date. Yeah, I
so I have now decided I'm puttingit out there to friends and family if
you know somebody, I'm not evenembarrassed anymore. I'm like, if you
know anybody that seems to be inmy age range, do you think is
a good guy? Let me know. I'll be interested in meeting them if
(11:46):
they want to meet me. It'sgot to be an in real life connection
for me. Now, what areyou looking for? Obviously somebody that would
like a family we know that isvery grounded. Somebody very centered, somebody
very polite, was raised similar tome, Funny, you know, has
a good job. You know,just somebody I can get along with,
(12:07):
that we have a similar personalities orsenses of humor. And is religion important?
Not really? You know, it'sinteresting. There was just something in
the New York Post that women nolonger have this well, one in three
women no longer have this vision ofdating marriage, that there's no more timeline
(12:28):
in their mind to get this done. Is that what you're feeling now will
more now since you have eggs frozen. Yeah, I feel like my timeline
has extended now. I'm not beforeI didn't really feel like I had a
timeline at all. I'm like,oh, I got to use by date
to use date. My expiration datewas creeping in. I'm like, oh
(12:50):
my god, so I extended myexpiration date. So my use by date
has extended. And now I feellike I could take a breath, and
I don't feel like the timeline iscreeping over me like a shadow. Anything
else you want to tell us aboutthe process before we go, if you're
thinking about doing it, I begyou because you don't know where your numbers
(13:11):
are at. Let's say you can'tmake the financial or mental commitment to jump
into egg freezing completely, at leasthave your base checked, like your amh.
And that kind of is a loosetrajectory of like will you be able
to produce a lot of eggs andfor a cheap not a cheap amount,
but you know, for a reasonableamount, you can find out kind of
what your future life plan looks likein terms of kids, and then you
(13:33):
can either say, oh wow,I am so good to go, or
you know what my numbers aren't sohot. Maybe I should take a look
into this. But if you doquestion it or have any thoughts about that,
just definitely get your baseline checked.That makes a lot of sense.
Thank you so much, Jamie,Thank you, Shelly. You've been listening
to Sunstein sessions on iHeartRadio. Theproduction of New York's classic rock Q one
(13:56):
oh four point three
Welcome to Sunstein Sessions on iHeartRadio,conversations about issues that matter. Here's your
host, three time Gracie Award winner, Shelley Sunstein. Good morning, and
I want to introduce you to awoman who is right next door to us
at Q at the Q Studio.She's in the Light FM studios. She
(00:21):
is Jamie mcgargy and she is theproducer of Cubby and Christine Mornings. And
the reason she is here not totake my job now. She is here
because we are giving thanks this weekend, and Jamie is most giving thanks for
the decision to freeze her eggs.Absolutely, this was a decision I had
(00:44):
a long time in my head thatI had wanted to do, and I
finally did it in the springtime.I worked with r May Reproductive Medicine Associates.
They were a dream to work withand they helped bring my vision to
life. And I had three roundsof egg gratry and now I have fourteen
eggs on ice. As they say, so when I am ready to start
(01:06):
my family, it's kind of likeI'm pushing the pause bend right now,
which is a beautiful thing which wedon't normally get to do. In life,
and when I'm ready, they'll bethere waiting for me, and I'll
be able to use them when I'mready for that. What made you come
to this decision? Well, sinceI was five, I knew I wanted
to be a mom, and youknow, I will be forty next year,
(01:27):
and I'm not you know, Idon't have a husband right now,
and I'm not really in that kindof full out dating mode yet. So
I figured now's the time. Ibetter do it now before it's too late.
So I decided to go through withit. And now I can relax
and hopefully date a little bit andthen find the person that I'm going to
end up with, and then we'llhave those eggs if I need them,
(01:49):
you know, waiting for me,waiting for us. It wasn't exactly an
easy process for you. I meanno, for some people, they just
go for the egg retrieval and it'sjust easy piecy. But you waited until
your late thirties. Ideally, ifyou really are set on okay, I
want to live my life, Iwant to travel, or I'm not dating
(02:12):
yet. Really, between the agesof like twenty eight and thirty three is
the most ideal time to do it, it is a little bit on the
more expensive side, so that waspart of what factored in for me,
and then I thought, oh,I'll do it at some point, and
then it finally came to a pointI'm like, oh, I better do
this. And most some women theideal amount of eggs you want to have
is about twenty because you know,not all of them are viable and can
(02:37):
be frozen once they collect them fromyou. And so unfortunately, just my
own personal journey, my AMH numbersthe anti malarian hormone that when they did
all these testamy weren't so great.So my first round we only got one.
So that made me think, Okay, you know, while my body
is primed and ready, let's dothis again. And so now I have
(03:00):
fourteen, which is a pretty healthynumber of eggs to have to be frozen,
which I am extremely thankful for ourmand switching up medications and the procedure
that I was on and everything.So I have those. Now you had
to give you your self shots.Yeah, so you can. You're usually
on like a hormone pill, andthen you have to do a couple injections
(03:21):
like around your abdomen in the morningand night and depending on like where your
numbers are at. I was ona higher dosage of most of the hormones
just to help me produce more sosome women it's I think it still is
probably the same amount of shots,but just amount of different doses. And
I didn't realize that it's so specific. So every couple of days you have
(03:43):
to go for blood work in anultrasound and based on those results, they
can tell you by that night,Okay, this is what it looks like
on your on your tests, weneed to adjust your hormones a little bit.
So they amazing. It's so it'sso down to the day that it's
so specific. You have to gothere so early in the morning so they
have the results to let you knowby that night. Okay, we're looking
(04:06):
great. Keep your dosage the same, or you know what, let's push
this one up a little bit.And our may was so great in looking
at my numbers and really just cateringthe program specifically to me perfectly. There
were side effects though, with allthese treatments, right because whenever you fus
with the hormones, Yeah, sideeffects a little bit of waking, which
(04:30):
is that's coming off now, whichit can happen, and that's just you
know, that's what your hormones do. A little bit of headache sometimes,
and I would say probably the biggestthing though, was just like a little
bit of fatigue. I was prettytired, yeah, And how long did
it take for you to bounce backfrom all that? After each So I
did three consecutive rounds. So forme it took a little bit longer than
(04:53):
probably than most people because I didit back to back. But after a
while and you balance back out,I mean tired for a while, but
in just like a little bit ofthe weight stuff. But other than that,
it wasn't too bad. After theprocedure, you felt pretty good,
all right. So you have fourteengood eggs right like these are? Do
you know that all these eggs arepotential waiting for the sperm guys? Women?
(05:17):
Wait? Yeah, waiting for thesperm girls. Yes, let's get
it right. So what happens isso the reason they want you to have
twenty. So let's say they havetwenty. I feel like they have fourteen
for me. I didn't realize they'reso delicate that when you go to use
them, some of them can diein the thawing. Process, and then
(05:38):
also when they saw them and thenthey look in the microscope, you won't
be able to actually know if it'sa good egg versus a bad egg until
they actually try to use it oractually look deeper into it. So that's
why they want you to have twentybecause let's say, maybe fifteen or good
out of that twenty. So eventhough I'm fourteen, I don't necessarily know
(06:00):
so specifically yet how many of thosefourteen are like perfect eggs. And so
it's a gamble, you know,right, It's still a gamble. Yeah,
my doctor said it's not a lottery, but it's sure as a raffle.
So the higher amount you have,the better you are off in the
future. And there's some women Iknow that have gone and they've gotten eighteen
(06:21):
twenty first try. It's just youknow, my body specifically, you know.
Oh, so how soon would theyknow after they do the sperm and
the egg meeting? You know,I don't know. But when I was,
when I was in the real worldor in the old school world,
(06:41):
you had to wait until you misseda period. I'm guessing though probably it
would have to be that now becauseyou're still getting pregnant. And then I
guess you have to wait. Theyprobably have such high scientific hormone testing that
they probably could know within a coupleof weeks. But I'm sure there is
a wait. I'm not at thatpoint, yeah, but I'm sure there
is going to be some waiting,a little bit of a waiting period,
(07:03):
waiting to know if it took.So I'm speaking with Jamie McCarthy. She
is the producer of Kubby and Christinemornings on Light FM and their studios right
next door. We're next literally nextdoor. Yeah, we share the same
printer exactly. So at what ageis the cutoff for using these eggs?
(07:27):
What is the I mean for younot the egg well for me specifically,
I would say probably, you know, after a few years and in my
forties. But this was fascinating mydoctor. I went in one day and
doctor Maslow and she was so excitedbecause she implanted a woman who was fifty
(07:47):
her eggs have been frozen for overten years and it was like a tremendously
successful pregnancy. Wow. So theyreally can be frozen for a decade,
you know. So if you're twentyeight and you want be he's at almost
forty, you could do it now, and then you can be up to
a fifty. I guess as longas your hormones are still functioning well and
you have your period and you canbecome pregnant, then there's no problem.
(08:11):
Tell us about the stress that youfelt dating and feeling like you had to
find your husband now because you wererunning out of time before. This is
Jamie pre egg freezing process. Ibasically stopped dating because I was at the
(08:31):
point where I was getting up therein age and a family was so important
to me that it would be almostbefore I froze my eggs on the third
date. Like, so you thinkwe're gonna do this, Like, you
know, we're really get married?Where do you want kids? Do you
want kids? Do you want todo this? So? I feel like
the intensity coming off of any womanwho was in that situation is too much.
(08:52):
So I kind of like took myselfout of the game. And then
our may presented itself in such abeautiful opportunity for me, and I jumped
on that. And now I feelwith fourteen on Ice as they say,
I feel like I can go backinto the dating world and take a breather
and take my time a little bitrather than like you want to get buried,
(09:13):
like you know, asking all thesequestions that would be clearly inappropriate on
the first few dates. So Ican now like calm down a little bit
in terms of dating. But atwhat point in the dating process do you
bring up having kids if some ifyour potential partner wants to have kids or
not, I mean don't. Idon't know any because I wasn't in what
(09:35):
My first pregnancy was a total surprise, so it was a plan. So
yeah, so this is not myworld. Yeah, I would say me
specifically the age where I'm at andwhat I want to be doing with my
life. If I go out withsomebody and we hit it off, I
would say by the second date,I would say, so, what do
you visions for yourself in the future? Do you plan to have a family?
(09:56):
Like not down their throat crazy questions, but like get their general overview
of what their life looks like andif it doesn't match with mine, I'm
out, Like I'm not I'm notbessing anymore with this, Like I'm not
dating for just part of my languageas and giggles, you know, I'm
just I want to find the husbandand the person who I am to have
a family with and am I settlingeither? I'm not. It just because
(10:18):
somebody says, yes, I wantto have a family doesn't mean that they're
a great match for me. Butit will determine whether I continue dating them
or not to see where they're at. You did online and apup dating?
Yes, So what was your experiencelike? Now? How long did you
do it? Oh? I didit for fifteen years? Fifteen years?
Yeah, and Shelley, here,I am so clearly. Oh yeah,
(10:41):
here, I am. So itis it did not work out well most
of I would say ninety percent ofthe stories are not even appropriate that I
could repeat what has happened to me. But yet so many people I don't
judge it though, because so manypeople on our floor are radio friends.
They're all married and have kids orengaged off bumble or a Tinder or plenty
of fish, And it works greatfor some people. For me personally,
(11:05):
I don't know really what went awry, but it did not work out for
me. What was the weirdest one? Oh my god, Uh, there's
got to be something add that Ican't even say on here. I don't
think you can't why it's so inappropriate? So inappropriated. Things they've said to
me, pictures they've sent to me, things that they have done before we
(11:26):
even met for the date where Ihave canceled the date. Yeah, I
so I have now decided I'm puttingit out there to friends and family if
you know somebody, I'm not evenembarrassed anymore. I'm like, if you
know anybody that seems to be inmy age range, do you think is
a good guy? Let me know. I'll be interested in meeting them if
(11:46):
they want to meet me. It'sgot to be an in real life connection
for me. Now, what areyou looking for? Obviously somebody that would
like a family we know that isvery grounded. Somebody very centered, somebody
very polite, was raised similar tome, Funny, you know, has
a good job. You know,just somebody I can get along with,
(12:07):
that we have a similar personalities orsenses of humor. And is religion important?
Not really? You know, it'sinteresting. There was just something in
the New York Post that women nolonger have this well, one in three
women no longer have this vision ofdating marriage, that there's no more timeline
(12:28):
in their mind to get this done. Is that what you're feeling now will
more now since you have eggs frozen. Yeah, I feel like my timeline
has extended now. I'm not beforeI didn't really feel like I had a
timeline at all. I'm like,oh, I got to use by date
to use date. My expiration datewas creeping in. I'm like, oh
(12:50):
my god, so I extended myexpiration date. So my use by date
has extended. And now I feellike I could take a breath, and
I don't feel like the timeline iscreeping over me like a shadow. Anything
else you want to tell us aboutthe process before we go, if you're
thinking about doing it, I begyou because you don't know where your numbers
(13:11):
are at. Let's say you can'tmake the financial or mental commitment to jump
into egg freezing completely, at leasthave your base checked, like your amh.
And that kind of is a loosetrajectory of like will you be able
to produce a lot of eggs andfor a cheap not a cheap amount,
but you know, for a reasonableamount, you can find out kind of
what your future life plan looks likein terms of kids, and then you
(13:33):
can either say, oh wow,I am so good to go, or
you know what my numbers aren't sohot. Maybe I should take a look
into this. But if you doquestion it or have any thoughts about that,
just definitely get your baseline checked.That makes a lot of sense.
Thank you so much, Jamie,Thank you, Shelly. You've been listening
to Sunstein sessions on iHeartRadio. Theproduction of New York's classic rock Q one
(13:56):
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