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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Sunstein Sessions on iHeartRadio, conversations about issues that matter.
Here's your host, three time Grasie Award winner, Shelley Sunstein.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
I want to tell you about a movie that is
now in theaters, Jane Austin Wrecked My Life. Now joining
me this morning is a director Laura Piani and the
star Camille Rutherford. And just let me run down what
this movie is all about. And it's both in French
and English. For my husband and me, we always have
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the you know, the words up on the screen, so
it doesn't matter. But yeah, it's both, it's in both languages.
Agatha is a hopelessly clumsy, but very charming young woman
who works in a legendary Shakespeare and Company bookshop in
the wonderful Harrie, Paris.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
And while she dreams of being a.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Successful writer and experiencing like love like Jane Austin, she
finds herself desperately single and she has writer's block and
matter bf F gets her invited to the Jane Austen
Writers Residency in England.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
She finally has a Jane Austin moment.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
So tell me, director Laura Piani, how did this all
come about?
Speaker 4 (01:22):
So the whole.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
The whole idea started when I was working as a
bookseller at Chickspeare and Company fifteen years ago. I was
film students and I needed to pay my rent and
I was dreaming to work in a bookshop. And even
as I you know, when I finished my studies and
I started to become a scriptwriter, I kept working there
because they became my family, the booksellers, and we were
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working at night and we were all you know, young writers, actors,
musicians working and working there and dream dreaming of, you know,
becoming artists. And it was a refuw use this bookshop,
and I wanted to portray that, you know, this kind
of place where you can have a lot of people.
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They were like me, we were the same. We felt
like we didn't fit really with the world we were
living in, and this in adequation was the common point somehow.
So it started this way, the desire for this film.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
And as I said, the star is Camille Rutherford. Camille.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Were you a fan Jane Austen fan before this movie?
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Yes? I was. I started.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
I discovered Jane Austin when I was about twelve years old.
Every summer. I'm half French, half English and I would
go to Durham in the northeast of England, where my
English grandparents used to live, for the summer break, and
we would watch with my small with Constance, my sister.
We would watch again and again the Sense and Sensibility
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adaptation written by Emma Thompson and directed by Ang Lee,
and so we had the pink DVD.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
I can remember very.
Speaker 6 (03:03):
Vividly the pink DVD box of Sense and Sensibility. We
watched it, maybe honestly forty times, and we watched Pride
and Prejudice a lot, the BBC adaptation, and then I
read and Sensibility. I actually read a book, so yeah, yeah, yeah,
I was very familiar with her and I really liked her.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
I still do.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Laura, was this a tough cell when it came to movie,
you know, movie makers, first studio to take the song?
Was this hard to sell to a studio? I mean
Sony Classics aptly named.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
So you know, it is a very strange story, the
story of this film, because it's a very independent film
that we did. We Total Freedom in France and we
couldn't imagine that it would be released in America.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Or anywhere else. Actually, it was a French.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
Film, you know, with English language and English actors, and
the beauty was that we did it very hearthouse. And
then it was selected in Toronto. The film it premiered
in Toronto, and that's where Toronto, yes, Toronto, sorry, and
they had.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Film festival there, very important film festival.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
Yes, we were very lucky to be selected. And the
title of the film, jana'sn wrecked My Life. Who was
in the catalog, you know, I think in Toronto in
the festiv value of like more than three hundred films
that are selected, but the Sony Classic people, they were
intrigued by the title, and that's how they discovered the film.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
You know, this summer and.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
I remember having this call with my producer in August
and she was like, we need to talk. I need
to say something, call me back. And I was in
the holidays with my kids on the beach, you know,
and I was like, oh my god, I hope it's
good news. I don't know why is she calling me now,
And then she said, Sony Classic the film, they want
to relate it in America. It seemed it was impossible
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for us to imagine that. It's such a joy.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
I am speaking with the director and star of Jane
Austen Wrecked My Life, which is now in theaters. The
director is Laura Piani and the star is Camille Rutherford.
You know, in today's world, you know, TikTok has taken
over the world. And I'm thinking to myself as I'm
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watching the movie, how you know books have such a
challenge how I mean you the kids have to read
books in school, but books.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Are having a challenging moment. How do you both feel
about that?
Speaker 2 (05:46):
How do we get people to read more books and
not just watch a fifteen second video or less.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Yeah, good question.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
You know what I discovered recently because I'm not in
TikTok on TikTok, is that there is actually something called
book talk and kids are actually reading because of the
videos on TikTok, especially with Janosten. It's incredible the number
of young women, you know, doing these videos about the
books that they're reading and about the films they want
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to say. So it's you know, as always in life,
it's not completely dark or white. You know, TikTok can
be also an amazing tool for kids to be you know,
informed about literature. But it's true that I think for example,
Shakespeare and Company, the way they survived in front of Amazon,
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for example, because you would think that, you know, in France,
an anglophone bookshop, how can they manage to still be
a bookshop? And it's because, as opposed to Amazon, for example,
they offer an experience. When you go to a bookshop,
you talk with people, you ask advice, you look at
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you know, the books, you touch them and you and
it's it's an experience of in life. It's not only
you know, buying something. So I think bookshops will stay.
I'm very optimistic because you know, after the pandemic also
we saw that that people realized that of course they
could order books online, but they were missing the bookshop
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so much that after the pandemic, at least in France,
the books the bookshops were reopened and full of people.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
So I am optimistic. How about Youkmeil, it's a good question.
Speaker 6 (07:36):
I agree with Flora, it's not it's more complex than
just black or white. I mean, TikTok and social media
are also great tools for a lot of things.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
And I didn't know about book talk. I mean it's
it's great.
Speaker 6 (07:52):
I'm not on social media myself, so quite I'm quite
like I get the character I play in the movie.
I I'm not really into all these modern things.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
But I'm not against it. I'm really not against it.
Speaker 6 (08:05):
I know it helps and it can be creative as
well if you do it, if you use it in
a good way. But then, for read I agree with
what you said. It's terrible. That's our concentration.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Now we can.
Speaker 6 (08:15):
Only look at fifteen minutes, fifteen seconds little videos, and
then we get bored.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
It's the same for everything. For YouTube now they have
small don't it's terrible.
Speaker 6 (08:24):
And I and I sometimes I show movies to my
own my daughter, and she said it's too long. I
showed her Mary Poppins and she said, oh it's long.
And I thought, oh no, that's this new generation. It
has to be the editing has to be so quick,
and I hate it, and so i'm I'm also I
feel sad about that. And for books, how to make
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people read more, I don't know. I think people still read,
but they read them their phones a lot articles and
I know I'm always on my phone, but I'm reading
a lot on my phone. But then, yeah, the book itself,
it's an amazing it's a beautiful object. And for me,
for my daughter anyway, I try and buy her. I
take her to bookshops a lot, and I buy many
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children's books, hoping that it will help, it'll make her
read it.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
How old is your daughter, Camille?
Speaker 4 (09:11):
She's six?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Okay, So you say you're not on social media.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Was that always the case or did you get off
of it?
Speaker 4 (09:23):
It was always the case?
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Really tell me why?
Speaker 2 (09:27):
I mean, because it seems like the whole world there's
such pressure even on me, you know, people in radio,
such pressure to be on social media.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
And I now find that like the worst part of
my job.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
I have to say, because I didn't sign up for that,
and I don't enjoy it, yet I have to do it.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
But how did you make that decision? Because that really
is that's the rebel in you.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
I think it's because I'm really not good with high technology.
I never was.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
I'm thirty four, so I was internet. I had internet
when I was a kid and everything, but it never
really interested me. But I don't. I'm not against it.
I think social media can be great, and it can
be and yes, Varda she was, you know, a very
very famous French director, and yes Varda she did she's
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very She died and she was always saying social media
Instagram can be a very good way to create little movies,
fun movies, and I and I agree, And I see
a lot of stand up comedians I love. They make
very funny videos that I sometimes my sister shows me
to me, but she doesn't have Instagram as well. But
I think I don't have it because I I'm also
I'm very I think when I try something, I go
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into its like hardcore. And if I have Instagram, I
know myself I will spend my life on it, and
I will spy on people's lives. And the thing is,
I think sometimes it's bad because it's hypocritical.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
It's everybody's pretending that.
Speaker 6 (10:58):
They'll I've been in places and things as an actress
where I see other fellow colleagues and they make little
stories of the rehearsals and then and it looks like
it's amazing, but it's not. Where it's like an afternoon
where we're rehearsing and everything is boring and we cannot
find the show. So it's also alike, and it's I
think also an actress, it's good to keep mystery. As
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a director, I would hate to see too much of
an actress on Instagram. I want to keep the mystery.
And last but not least, I'm not on Instagram because
you have to use.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
It for your work.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
You were saying, a lot of people have to use
it for work. That's why they have it. And I'm
lucky enough I have an agent.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
So if I.
Speaker 6 (11:37):
Didn't have an agent, I would probably have So I'm
very lucky I have someone advertising stuff for me.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
I've noticed that my kids are more apt to because
of time constraints. My son, of course works full time,
but he has two kids, they're nine and twelve, and
they're into baseball, and so the only way he used
to be an avid reader, but now it's odd all
about audio books, just because of the time constraints. Your
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feelings on that, I mean, there's there's something different about
holding a book, yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Right, and trying not to turn to that last page.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
It's an object and and it it has traces of
you know, the I don't know if you had that,
but I remember, for like very important books, I remember
exactly when I look at.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Them, where I was, who I was.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
Yeah, you know, sometimes if it's if you're traveling and
if there are sense because you were in near the beach,
for example, or if you split coffee on it. I mean,
it's it's a it's a very important trace of your
life's journey. A book, the book that surrounds you. So
I think, I think it's wonderful that people listen to
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stories and your book it's storytelling and we need that.
So things shouldn't should not compete with each other, you know,
it's it's there is space for everything, I think.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
Mill I I agree with Flora.
Speaker 6 (13:14):
I agree that we things shouldn't compete with them with
one another. It's audio books are great, especially if they're
read by good actors. But then the object itself, the book,
And like you're saying, it's it's it's a statement. Nowadays,
it's almost a statement. You sit down, open a book
and read it and I, yeah, I don't do it enough,
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but it's but I agree with Flora, it's yeah. I
also have books where I know exactly where I bought
it and who I was at that time.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
That's yeah, that's great, Laura.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
You just took me back to my most memorable book
read as a little girl, and I remember that I
was at my grandmother's house.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
By the beach, and it was Little Women.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Oh and it kind of it really changed my life.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
And I mean I was young.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
I was like seven or eight, I think when I
read Little Women and I found.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
It in her attic.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
In the and I couldn't stop reading it. But you
just took me back because you're right. I mean, they're
just there's certain books that speak to you and it
just like a song, the first time you hear it,
you know, it takes you back to that moment. Okay,
I'm afraid we've run out of time. Jane Austen wrecked
my Life. You can see it in theaters now. And yeah,
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thank you so much, director Laura Piani and star Camille Rutherford.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
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