The Australian Government has faced calls to update its tax system to pay off its national debt.
The Australian Treasurer Jim Chalmers has said he won’t ‘rule in or rule out’ any changes to future tax plans, including raising the GST, something the treasurer has clearly said he is against.
Australian Correspondent Murray Olds says, “there’s no doubt, you have to have to have some reform over here.”
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
So let's go to Australia. Murray Old's Happy Matariki to
you Murry.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Thank you, Andrew Saander, you mate. That's right, Jim Chalmers
clearly starting this process of softening up the public over
here and politicians for what has to be a pretty
frank discussion about tax reform. Over here. The Treasurer says,
oh listen, I don't want any change of GST. He's
cracking jokes that there has to be some change of
(00:43):
the GST. It's been ten percent now for nearly twenty
five years, ten percent, and there's all sorts of exemptions
basic food, some education, some medical and health items and
so on. Exports, GST free farmland, GST free sell was
apparently international mail, which I didn't know about until I
went digging. But the thing is there's too much reliance
(01:06):
on income tax. Unless the goods and services taxes changed,
they're going to keep relying on an ever diminishing pool
of younger people who are paying the income tax, going
to keep old fellas like us were like me in
the nursing home with a nice blanket over around needs.
And unless we change the tax mix, you're going to
(01:26):
be running out of money because young people simply won't
be able to afford the tax take that successive governments
are going to have to make.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
But the problem is if you put up at GST,
that puts up prices, and at the moment we've got
a global inflation problem. And as I just mentioned, your
GDP is that point too, So this is a tough
time to even think about putting up prices.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Well indeed, but there's a bunch of experts over here
who are saying, if you lift the GST, I don't know,
twelve fifteen percent, maybe twenty percent, I'm not sure what
it is in New Zealand, but if you lift that GST,
there's a corresponding drop in personal income tax because if
your tax consumption people, look, if you want the one
(02:08):
thousand dollars seat, I'm happy with a bomber jacket for
twenty five bucks, you're going to pay a lot more
than me my Cilli or boomer jacket. Here's the thing.
If you go down that path, and Charmers is busy
saying no, no, no, we don't want that. What you're
gonna have to do is have some carveouts for pensioners,
the low income people. You're gonna have to have that
ability to soften the blow for them. But there's no
(02:32):
doubt you have to have some sort of reform. Over here,
the opposition speaking through its you know, police at the
back of his hand. Oh look, yes, yes, we're opening
a tax reform. But hang on a second. You can't.
You can't make the tax pain that you're going to
be inflicting put more pressure on people. Well, knuckleheads, how
else are you going to do it. It's going to
(02:53):
have to be paying. You know, pain will be felt
by someone. How they manage this is going to be
very very interesting.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Just for your information, New Zealand GST is at fifteen percent.
It started off at ten, right, it started off at
twelve point five. Sir John Key, who came in on
a platform of not raising taxes.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Raise the tax from John Howard.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah, to fifteen percent. And I think fifteen percent is
pretty much a standard sales tax rate right across the world.
You guys on ten percent, yeah, you could probably stomach
some more. But whether anyone would vote for that, I
don't know techies don't vote for Christmas. Hey Australian. Australian
reaction to what's happening in Israel and Iran.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Well, that's right, and you know, no surprise, the country
is multiculturally diverse as Australia. There are many thousands of
Australians in both countries, in both Israel and Iran, and
there you know, many many cases, thousands of cases. They're
desperate to get out, but of course you've got airspace
closed over much of that region, lived up the whole
darn place. Three thousand people were registered with the Department
(03:56):
of Foreign Affairs here they wanted to get out of Israel.
I have not seen a figure about those who want
to get out of Iran, but you know, we're told
there are thousands there as well. There's been a small
group taken out of Israel by road, like a few hundred,
maybe a few buses. I'm not sure how they got about,
to be honest, and that there was said to me
(04:19):
another twelve hundred or so who were about to have
that same trip. But that means there are still fifteen
hundred others and perhaps more overnight who were trying to
get out of Israel. We don't know how on earth
they're going to be getting out of Iran. The advice
there is to if you can leave Tehran the city,
do so. If not, shelter in place because it's a
(04:41):
mess not going to get resolved anytime soon. So there
are many Australians trying desperately to get out of there
and get it. I suppose to get anywhere to safety at.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
The moment, absolutely by any means. We had some keywis
get out the other day. They were in a minibus
and they went up to Azerbaijan. They went right across
land and then to the border with Azerbaijana. I mean,
it's like a movie, isn't.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
It It is, mate, It's crazy, isn't it crazy?
Speaker 2 (05:03):
So the mushroom trial. I heard you're talking about the
mushroom trial this week and you and hither and you
were saying, the funny thing is about this is that
it's hard to pick which way it's going to go.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Indeed it is, that's right. Day thirty five, Day thirty five, Look,
seven weeks of this trial. Aaron Patterson, of course, accused
of murdering three relatives and trying to kill a fourth
relative by serving a meal laced with depthcap mushrooms and eyes.
It all yesterday, well, last a couple of days, the
defense was widening up the closing arguments, counsel stressing to
(05:35):
the jury the defense council listen. The prosecutions failed to
make its case to the standard required, that is, beyond
reasonable doubt. What happened, according to her defense, was that
there was a tragic accident. Lies told by the accused,
and there were many according to the prosecution. Yes, indeed,
to the defense, she did tell a few porky pies,
(05:57):
but that was all about her panic. She was panicked
aufter serving a meal to people she loved, and people
were becoming ill, people in fact died. Of course, she panicked.
Also said that prosecution had failed to produce a motive,
and that's something that has been a bit of a puzzle.
Why did you want to kill these people? If she
killed them, why did you want to kill them? So anyway,
(06:18):
the jury was sent home at the conclusion of the
defense address yesterday, back and caught on Tuesday for final
directions from the bench, and then the jury will retire
and her fate rests in the hands of those jury members. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Well, look, either it's reckless carelessness in her harvesting of
the mushrooms and that's culpable in some way or another,
or she actually had a plan, but who knows what's
going on inside her head? And certainly a fascinating story.
When's the movie?
Speaker 3 (06:47):
I don't know, I'm afraid, but it would make a
downe good movie, there's no doubt about that. Look, clearly
he's a very very troubled woman, you know, on a
bunch of different levels that come through in her evidence,
the testimony she gave. But does that make her a killer?
That's for the jury to inside. Andrew.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Well, good, Mary and I thank you so much and
enjoy your day now. That is Murray Olds out of Australia.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
So let's go to Australia. Murray Old's Happy Matariki to
you Murry.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Thank you, Andrew Saander, you mate. That's right, Jim Chalmers
clearly starting this process of softening up the public over
here and politicians for what has to be a pretty
frank discussion about tax reform. Over here. The Treasurer says,
oh listen, I don't want any change of GST. He's
cracking jokes that there has to be some change of
(00:43):
the GST. It's been ten percent now for nearly twenty
five years, ten percent, and there's all sorts of exemptions
basic food, some education, some medical and health items and
so on. Exports, GST free farmland, GST free sell was
apparently international mail, which I didn't know about until I
went digging. But the thing is there's too much reliance
(01:06):
on income tax. Unless the goods and services taxes changed,
they're going to keep relying on an ever diminishing pool
of younger people who are paying the income tax, going
to keep old fellas like us were like me in
the nursing home with a nice blanket over around needs.
And unless we change the tax mix, you're going to
(01:26):
be running out of money because young people simply won't
be able to afford the tax take that successive governments
are going to have to make.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
But the problem is if you put up at GST,
that puts up prices, and at the moment we've got
a global inflation problem. And as I just mentioned, your
GDP is that point too, So this is a tough
time to even think about putting up prices.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Well indeed, but there's a bunch of experts over here
who are saying, if you lift the GST, I don't know,
twelve fifteen percent, maybe twenty percent, I'm not sure what
it is in New Zealand, but if you lift that GST,
there's a corresponding drop in personal income tax because if
your tax consumption people, look, if you want the one
(02:08):
thousand dollars seat, I'm happy with a bomber jacket for
twenty five bucks, you're going to pay a lot more
than me my Cilli or boomer jacket. Here's the thing.
If you go down that path, and Charmers is busy
saying no, no, no, we don't want that. What you're
gonna have to do is have some carveouts for pensioners,
the low income people. You're gonna have to have that
ability to soften the blow for them. But there's no
(02:32):
doubt you have to have some sort of reform. Over here,
the opposition speaking through its you know, police at the
back of his hand. Oh look, yes, yes, we're opening
a tax reform. But hang on a second. You can't.
You can't make the tax pain that you're going to
be inflicting put more pressure on people. Well, knuckleheads, how
else are you going to do it. It's going to
(02:53):
have to be paying. You know, pain will be felt
by someone. How they manage this is going to be
very very interesting.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Just for your information, New Zealand GST is at fifteen percent.
It started off at ten, right, it started off at
twelve point five. Sir John Key, who came in on
a platform of not raising taxes.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Raise the tax from John Howard.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah, to fifteen percent. And I think fifteen percent is
pretty much a standard sales tax rate right across the world.
You guys on ten percent, yeah, you could probably stomach
some more. But whether anyone would vote for that, I
don't know techies don't vote for Christmas. Hey Australian. Australian
reaction to what's happening in Israel and Iran.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Well, that's right, and you know, no surprise, the country
is multiculturally diverse as Australia. There are many thousands of
Australians in both countries, in both Israel and Iran, and
there you know, many many cases, thousands of cases. They're
desperate to get out, but of course you've got airspace
closed over much of that region, lived up the whole
darn place. Three thousand people were registered with the Department
(03:56):
of Foreign Affairs here they wanted to get out of Israel.
I have not seen a figure about those who want
to get out of Iran, but you know, we're told
there are thousands there as well. There's been a small
group taken out of Israel by road, like a few hundred,
maybe a few buses. I'm not sure how they got about,
to be honest, and that there was said to me
(04:19):
another twelve hundred or so who were about to have
that same trip. But that means there are still fifteen
hundred others and perhaps more overnight who were trying to
get out of Israel. We don't know how on earth
they're going to be getting out of Iran. The advice
there is to if you can leave Tehran the city,
do so. If not, shelter in place because it's a
(04:41):
mess not going to get resolved anytime soon. So there
are many Australians trying desperately to get out of there
and get it. I suppose to get anywhere to safety at.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
The moment, absolutely by any means. We had some keywis
get out the other day. They were in a minibus
and they went up to Azerbaijan. They went right across
land and then to the border with Azerbaijana. I mean,
it's like a movie, isn't.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
It It is, mate, It's crazy, isn't it crazy?
Speaker 2 (05:03):
So the mushroom trial. I heard you're talking about the
mushroom trial this week and you and hither and you
were saying, the funny thing is about this is that
it's hard to pick which way it's going to go.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Indeed it is, that's right. Day thirty five, Day thirty five, Look,
seven weeks of this trial. Aaron Patterson, of course, accused
of murdering three relatives and trying to kill a fourth
relative by serving a meal laced with depthcap mushrooms and eyes.
It all yesterday, well, last a couple of days, the
defense was widening up the closing arguments, counsel stressing to
(05:35):
the jury the defense council listen. The prosecutions failed to
make its case to the standard required, that is, beyond
reasonable doubt. What happened, according to her defense, was that
there was a tragic accident. Lies told by the accused,
and there were many according to the prosecution. Yes, indeed,
to the defense, she did tell a few porky pies,
(05:57):
but that was all about her panic. She was panicked
aufter serving a meal to people she loved, and people
were becoming ill, people in fact died. Of course, she panicked.
Also said that prosecution had failed to produce a motive,
and that's something that has been a bit of a puzzle.
Why did you want to kill these people? If she
killed them, why did you want to kill them? So anyway,
(06:18):
the jury was sent home at the conclusion of the
defense address yesterday, back and caught on Tuesday for final
directions from the bench, and then the jury will retire
and her fate rests in the hands of those jury members. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Well, look, either it's reckless carelessness in her harvesting of
the mushrooms and that's culpable in some way or another,
or she actually had a plan, but who knows what's
going on inside her head? And certainly a fascinating story.
When's the movie?
Speaker 3 (06:47):
I don't know, I'm afraid, but it would make a
downe good movie, there's no doubt about that. Look, clearly
he's a very very troubled woman, you know, on a
bunch of different levels that come through in her evidence,
the testimony she gave. But does that make her a killer?
That's for the jury to inside. Andrew.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Well, good, Mary and I thank you so much and
enjoy your day now. That is Murray Olds out of Australia.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
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air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
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