December 23, 2025 • 5 mins
US President Donald Trump may have spent more time travelling with late sex offender Jeffrey Epstein than previously reported.
The Department of Justice has released thousands of documents and images.
Emails from 2020 say Trump's listed as a passenger on Epstein's private jet to places including Palm Beach and Washington.
US correspondent Richard Arnold says they weren't to the infamous Epstein Island.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
To America We Go. Richard Arnold, Good morning to you
at Merry Christmas.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Oh well, thank you, Sam, to you, Good morning, Andrew.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
The biggest drop of Epstein files yet. And so is
this one better or worse for Trump than the original drop?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Well, this is thirty thousand pages of additional material that's
just been put out early today after the Trump Justice
Department was accused by some of the survivors of Jeffrey
Epstein's pedophilial tlex crimes of covering up Trump images and references,
posting a few photos of Bill Clinton and some others
and so on, Clinton saying we'll put them all out
and see how the truth lies. The survivors still demanding
(00:51):
the release of everything as the US Congress and now
is required. One of the files now made public is
a jailhouse letter that Epstein sent to another notorious sex offender,
Larry Nassa. Now he is the disgraced former US gymnastics
team doctor who used his role in that to sexually
assault hundreds of young athletes in the biggest sexual abuse
scandal in sports history. Many Olympic athletes were among the victims.
(01:15):
In that the Epstein letter to NASA includes reference to
President Trump. Epstein refers to quote our President. This Epstein
letter was sent in August of twenty nineteen, the same
month when Epstein died in prison in what was declared
to be a suicide. This letter is postmarked from the
prison three days after Epstein's death. Epstein wrote, quote, our
(01:35):
president also shares a love of young Newbile girls. He
goes on quote when a young beauty walked by, he
Trump loved to grab snatch en quote. The Justice Department
says in a statement now quote some of the documents
contain untrue, insensationalist claims. Not clear exactly what they're referring
to In that remark, Donald Trump has repeatedly denied any
(01:57):
knowledge of or involvement in Epstein's criminal activities. The Epstein
letter continues, quote, as you will know by now, I
have taken the short route home. It concludes, life is unfair,
signing off, yours, Geoffrey Epstein. The new Epstein files also
revealed that Trump flew on Epstein's play many more times
than has previously been revealed Trump was on at least
(02:19):
eight flights on Epstein's aircraft between ninety three and ninety six,
and some of those flights included Epstein's partner in crime,
Julanne Maxwell, and two possible witnesses in the case against Maxwell.
These were domestic flights to Washington, d C. Palm Beach
and so on, and not to the infamous Epstein Island.
There is also a memo from the Justice Department to
(02:39):
officials in the UK seeking an interview with Quote Pa,
presumably former Prince Andrew, now stripped of his royal titles
in this country. A number of the Epstein survivors say
the DOJ is chaotic in releasing these materials, and of
course lots of problems because while they've blacked out many, many,
many pages of transcripts, they have revealed the names of
some victims who did not want to go public at all.
(03:02):
Sky Roberts, the brother of Virginia Jufrey, the Epstein victim
who fled to Australia try to build a new life,
but who died by suicide. Banking April says to Phra's
public role in trying to hold Epstein to account led
to all kinds of threats.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
My sister had had people that would pull up in
her driveway with their lights on and basically threatened their family.
I remember a time we came back in Titusville when
she had lived here locally and her old house was
broken into and completely ravaged.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Let all the files come out, is what the family says.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Here's the thing, lie with dogs, catch fleas. Now, there
was a sixty minute special which is going to be
on CBS, which got pulled and claims of political interference.
It's now aired in Canada. So how bad was this report?
Speaker 3 (03:45):
It is all over the internet this thing. You know,
America's sixty minutes kind of affairs program had this segment
on Sea Cottle the Salvador in prison and it was
pulled by the new CBS Boss Berry once just before
airtime Peace aired in Canada despite that blackout. We don't
know exactly why it aired in Canada. That'll be an
interesting story in itself. But copies were made and now
the thing has gone viral. It is all over the internet,
(04:07):
so anyone can take a lot look at this. The
reporter who did the sixty minute segment, sharonel Fonsi, went
public complaining about the decision to delay the piece. She
said it had been screened and cleared by CBS lawyers
and others at the network five times before it was
set to air. Bulliant Now said the reporter quote is
not an editorial decision, it is a political one. Weiss
(04:28):
Now says, in her view, it lacked a sufficient contexts
this piece and noted that the Trump team had not
commented on it. If that was the standard that a
government has to comment before you could run anything, there
would never be half the reports that we hear right,
including say Nixon, Watergate and on along anyway. The segment
includes interviews with former inmates who spoke of torture and
sexual abuses. Says one, the torture was never ended in analys.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
It would sit you there and put you for hours
and leave you locked in there for days.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Another tells of a special torture room at Seacott, a
little room where.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
There's no light, no ventilation, nothing.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
It's a self for punishment where you can't see your
hand in front of your face. After they locked us in,
they came to beat us every half hour.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Well. Trump pressaid Karen Leavitt has said, in relation to
all of this.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
These are heinous monsters, rapists, murderers, kidnappers, sexual assaulters, predators.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Well, Homeland Security Chief Christi Noan because went off to
the Salvador In prison and posed for pictures in front
of the prison cells. Back then, many of the two
hundred and thirty eight mogans flown off to the place
did not have proven offenses or even criminal charges. In
a lot of instances, they included a makeup artist, a
soccer player, and a food delivery driver who said their
tats were misunderstood and they went butt of any terror
(05:39):
gangs and they were detained, many of them without legal
due process.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Well, Richard Arnold, I thank you so much for your
time today. And as I say, Mary, Christis is our
Christis tomorrow, but of course you're going to have to
wait a day. Richard Arnold out of the United States
of America.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
For more from News Talks at b listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to a podcast from News Talks b Follow
this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
To America We Go. Richard Arnold, Good morning to you
at Merry Christmas.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Oh well, thank you, Sam, to you, Good morning, Andrew.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
The biggest drop of Epstein files yet. And so is
this one better or worse for Trump than the original drop?
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Well, this is thirty thousand pages of additional material that's
just been put out early today after the Trump Justice
Department was accused by some of the survivors of Jeffrey
Epstein's pedophilial tlex crimes of covering up Trump images and references,
posting a few photos of Bill Clinton and some others
and so on, Clinton saying we'll put them all out
and see how the truth lies. The survivors still demanding
(00:51):
the release of everything as the US Congress and now
is required. One of the files now made public is
a jailhouse letter that Epstein sent to another notorious sex offender,
Larry Nassa. Now he is the disgraced former US gymnastics
team doctor who used his role in that to sexually
assault hundreds of young athletes in the biggest sexual abuse
scandal in sports history. Many Olympic athletes were among the victims.
(01:15):
In that the Epstein letter to NASA includes reference to
President Trump. Epstein refers to quote our President. This Epstein
letter was sent in August of twenty nineteen, the same
month when Epstein died in prison in what was declared
to be a suicide. This letter is postmarked from the
prison three days after Epstein's death. Epstein wrote, quote, our
(01:35):
president also shares a love of young Newbile girls. He
goes on quote when a young beauty walked by, he
Trump loved to grab snatch en quote. The Justice Department
says in a statement now quote some of the documents
contain untrue, insensationalist claims. Not clear exactly what they're referring
to In that remark, Donald Trump has repeatedly denied any
(01:57):
knowledge of or involvement in Epstein's criminal activities. The Epstein
letter continues, quote, as you will know by now, I
have taken the short route home. It concludes, life is unfair,
signing off, yours, Geoffrey Epstein. The new Epstein files also
revealed that Trump flew on Epstein's play many more times
than has previously been revealed Trump was on at least
(02:19):
eight flights on Epstein's aircraft between ninety three and ninety six,
and some of those flights included Epstein's partner in crime,
Julanne Maxwell, and two possible witnesses in the case against Maxwell.
These were domestic flights to Washington, d C. Palm Beach
and so on, and not to the infamous Epstein Island.
There is also a memo from the Justice Department to
(02:39):
officials in the UK seeking an interview with Quote Pa,
presumably former Prince Andrew, now stripped of his royal titles
in this country. A number of the Epstein survivors say
the DOJ is chaotic in releasing these materials, and of
course lots of problems because while they've blacked out many, many,
many pages of transcripts, they have revealed the names of
some victims who did not want to go public at all.
(03:02):
Sky Roberts, the brother of Virginia Jufrey, the Epstein victim
who fled to Australia try to build a new life,
but who died by suicide. Banking April says to Phra's
public role in trying to hold Epstein to account led
to all kinds of threats.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
My sister had had people that would pull up in
her driveway with their lights on and basically threatened their family.
I remember a time we came back in Titusville when
she had lived here locally and her old house was
broken into and completely ravaged.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Let all the files come out, is what the family says.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Here's the thing, lie with dogs, catch fleas. Now, there
was a sixty minute special which is going to be
on CBS, which got pulled and claims of political interference.
It's now aired in Canada. So how bad was this report?
Speaker 3 (03:45):
It is all over the internet this thing. You know,
America's sixty minutes kind of affairs program had this segment
on Sea Cottle the Salvador in prison and it was
pulled by the new CBS Boss Berry once just before
airtime Peace aired in Canada despite that blackout. We don't
know exactly why it aired in Canada. That'll be an
interesting story in itself. But copies were made and now
the thing has gone viral. It is all over the internet,
(04:07):
so anyone can take a lot look at this. The
reporter who did the sixty minute segment, sharonel Fonsi, went
public complaining about the decision to delay the piece. She
said it had been screened and cleared by CBS lawyers
and others at the network five times before it was
set to air. Bulliant Now said the reporter quote is
not an editorial decision, it is a political one. Weiss
(04:28):
Now says, in her view, it lacked a sufficient contexts
this piece and noted that the Trump team had not
commented on it. If that was the standard that a
government has to comment before you could run anything, there
would never be half the reports that we hear right,
including say Nixon, Watergate and on along anyway. The segment
includes interviews with former inmates who spoke of torture and
sexual abuses. Says one, the torture was never ended in analys.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
It would sit you there and put you for hours
and leave you locked in there for days.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Another tells of a special torture room at Seacott, a
little room where.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
There's no light, no ventilation, nothing.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
It's a self for punishment where you can't see your
hand in front of your face. After they locked us in,
they came to beat us every half hour.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Well. Trump pressaid Karen Leavitt has said, in relation to
all of this.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
These are heinous monsters, rapists, murderers, kidnappers, sexual assaulters, predators.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Well, Homeland Security Chief Christi Noan because went off to
the Salvador In prison and posed for pictures in front
of the prison cells. Back then, many of the two
hundred and thirty eight mogans flown off to the place
did not have proven offenses or even criminal charges. In
a lot of instances, they included a makeup artist, a
soccer player, and a food delivery driver who said their
tats were misunderstood and they went butt of any terror
(05:39):
gangs and they were detained, many of them without legal
due process.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Well, Richard Arnold, I thank you so much for your
time today. And as I say, Mary, Christis is our
Christis tomorrow, but of course you're going to have to
wait a day. Richard Arnold out of the United States
of America.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
For more from News Talks at b listen live on
air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio.
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