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September 4, 2025 35 mins
In the second hour of today's show, Kristi Burton Brown continues to fill in for Dan Caplis, and is joined by Barbara Kirkmeyer to talk about Jared Polis's budget meltdown.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
Hey, if you listened to our first hour, we were
talking a lot about Colorado issues a press conference from
Governor Polis this morning. Three ballot measures proposed yesterday by
far left, so called progressive groups that want to hike
income taxes here in Colorado and drive businesses out of
the state and repeal parts of TABOR.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
While they're at it. We also talk to State Senator.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Barb Kirkmeyer about inside information on what the governor actually
says about the budget when he's talking to the Joint
Budget Committee, as opposed to what he claims publicly on healthcare.
She also said, I thought this is pretty interesting that
when she goes around and talks to people around the
state about what they're concerned about, a whole lot of
people bring up roads. People are very tired of their
roads not working. In the state government pulling money from

(00:55):
roads to fund transit and bike lanes and trains. No
one's using practically, and if anyone is, it's just in
the Denver really in Denver and a few of the
Denver metro areas. But Colorado is a giant state. When
I was the state chairman for the Republican Party, I
literally went to every county in the state of Colorado,
and I can tell you Colorado is very, very, very

(01:17):
different and paying for bike in bike bike lanes and
transit really doesn't benefit the majority of the states. It
benefits a small portion of the state and ignores so
many people in so many roads all across Colorado. So
no real surprise that that is what people are bringing
up across the state is something they think that the
state government should be focused on instead of their own
pet projects. We also covered what I think is a

(01:42):
pretty interesting clip of RFK Junior sparring with Senator Michael
Bennett on the Hill today at a hearing vaccines, the
code vaccine in particular, was a big, big topic. But
you know, Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, Michael Bennett all on
this panel just going after OURFK Junior, And I think

(02:02):
it's often when you have someone in a leadership position
who's trying to shake things up do it differently, bring
truth to the people instead of keeping all the power
with the government and a big, big moneyed interests like
the pharmaceutical industry and the food industry. You see a
lot of people in power want to shut them down.
Michael Bennett, of course, thinks the smartest way to do
that is to yell at him and to you know,

(02:23):
say that he's speaking for a lot of parents and
families across the country. But the reality is that a
lot of parents and moms in particular who around my age,
who have kids who are eating tons of food all
the time, and also the age to get vaccines. We
appreciate someone in charge of the AHHS, despite whatever political
party we may belong to. We appreciate someone who actually

(02:43):
wants average people to get truth and doesn't want all
the corporate interests who are getting all the money to
decide what information has.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
Actually passed on.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
I think there's this, you know, inaccurate assumption that if
moms and parents are given truth about vaccines and gredients
in our food, you know, we're just not going to
give our kids vaccines. We're not going to feed them anymore.
Like that's what some people act. Like.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
The reality is, and that's not true at all.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
It may cause people to have slightly different behavior when
it comes to vaccines. For example, I'm not a fan
of giving my kids like ten vaccines all at once,
or three different ones all at once. I prefer to
stagger it out where their body can handle it little
by little. But I still vaccinate my kids, but I
appreciate the information that's given to me so that I
can make the best choice for the health of my

(03:33):
child and everyone who's around them.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
And so I think there's just a lot of.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Distrust of parents and like, oh my goodness, they're just
gonna not do vaccines if we tell them the truth.
It's like, no, they're going to make smart decisions for
their family. And too many people just don't trust them
to do that and would rather instead trust pharmaceutical companies
to pay doctors to push vaccines on people.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
And so I think it's really.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
Good that we have RFK Junior at the HIHS, even
though I don't agree with everything he says. I don't
think everything he says is absolutely one hundred percent accurate,
but he's pushing on the system. He's fighting for more
truth for parents and families to have, and I think
that is always a good result. And when you see
the law people who've been in power for a very
very long time, like Michael Bennett and Elizabeth Warren and
Bernie Sanders yelling at him and pushing back on him,

(04:16):
I mean that should tell you something based on who
those objections are coming from. It's literally people who've received
I think, in Elizabeth Warren's case, eight hundred and fifty
five thousand dollars from the pharmaceutical industry, Like, of course
she's going to side with what they want to be
pushed on the American people instead of opening up the
facts and opening up the truth. And that's what I'm

(04:38):
a fan of, and a lot of moms my age
just say, give us the facts, give us the truth,
let us make real decisions for our kids instead of
information that is filtered through your preferred facts instead of reality.
So you know, certainly, people I heard today, some reporters
were talking. I was talking to them in person, and
they're like, oh, my goodness, RFK Junior made a complete
fool of himself on the hill. This was so horrible

(05:00):
for him. He looks terrible now. But I went and
watched some clips and other people's opinion is like, no,
he's a person going and fighting for parents and average people.
This was actually a great showing for him, and people
like Michael ben and Elizabeth Warren looked horrible. So you
can go watch and decide for yourself. But I will
play you the clip real quick. That just illustrates how

(05:20):
Michael Bennett loves to yell when he thinks he needs
to bring a point home.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
Dam has never been as I was hit with Maya
car Card.

Speaker 4 (05:30):
I am saying, I am simply trying to tell her.

Speaker 5 (05:33):
I am simply trying to say that the people that
you have put on that panel after.

Speaker 6 (05:39):
Firing the entire hate of.

Speaker 5 (05:41):
The question you no, I'm asking the questions here that question.
I'm asking the questions question. I'm asking the questions for
mister Kennedy on behalf of parents and schools and teachers
all over the United States of America who deserve so much.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
Better than your leadership.

Speaker 5 (06:03):
That's what this conversation is about, editor.

Speaker 7 (06:06):
Is theyve the truth, and that's where we're going to
give them for the first time in the history of
that agency.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
Well, and the truth is what a lot of people
want today.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
I agree with one of the Texters who wrote in
and said Bennett doesn't have a leg to stand on
when he's telling Kennedy that the people deserve better. I mean,
Benett has been in power for a long time and
what has he given people. I guess you can tell
from that clip that he's definitely running for governor next
in Colorado because he acts different when he's pursuing another office.
If you have thoughts about any of this, you can

(06:37):
call in three zero three seven one three eight two
five five, or you can text your thoughts to Dan
at five seven seven three nine. I'm actually going to
go through a few of the texts that I got
when we were talking about the proposed income tax hike
and Governor Polis at press conference where he had zero
solutions for actually helping businesses in Colorado and just wanted

(06:58):
to throw all the blame on the Trump administry. Someone
asking how long do you think it will take before
Polis introduces an income fee?

Speaker 3 (07:05):
That is a great question, because.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
This is, you know, par for the course for Democrats
and liberals here in Colorado. When they can't tax you
because Taper says you have to go to people and
ask permission for a tax.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
Increase.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
They just call it a fee and say, oh, well,
you're just paying to I don't know, use a service
that we like. And there's no definition of fee in
Colorado law, and so they're able to misuse that and
create enterprises and say that, oh, somehow your business is
related to that in a way, and so you have
to go ahead and pay some cost, which it's really

(07:37):
a tax. So many people say that fee is just
the DEM's new way of spelling tax. So it's a
good point there from the Texter. Fees are definitely what
they fall back on when they can't change taxes. Someone
else texting saying, do you remember when Governor Jared Polus
told us that he wanted to have state income tax at.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
Zero percent a few years ago.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Absolutely, that's what he's you know, commonly said in the media,
is that he doesn't even like income taxes.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
He's typically supported.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
Income tax cuts on the ballot, and so I think
if the income tax hike that we talked about earlier
in the show actually makes the ballot, and if he
didn't hear the first segment right now, the group sponsoring
it is saying they actually don't have the money to
get the signatures to put it on the ballot yet,
but they are pursuing it and trying to change our
tax system in Colorado. I think it's an important for
Governor Polis to get out there and actually tell people what.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
His position is.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
That this would destroy business in Colorado and hurt working
class Colorado's who have jobs, and if the businesses are
sent out of the state, it hurts them. So I
think he's going to need to get out there in
the public and be honest about that. Another text saying,
where has all the increase in revenue the state of
Colorado has collected over the last decade come from? If

(08:48):
the government's so poorly underfunded by our taxes? Right, revenue
in the state of Colorado comes from the people. The
state revenue is taxpayer dollars. So they just all it's
never enough. And when you look at these people trying
to run the income tax hike, that's basically their message is, Oh,
the government needs two point three billion more dollars now.

(09:09):
I mean, how much are they gonna need five years
from now? Their answer is that basically the government coffers
are never full enough. They want empty slush funds. They
want to blank check and that's what one of their
versions of their developments would actually do is say the
legislature can spend this money however they want, because that's
our ultimate belief is that government can spend money better
than you can. I'm Christy Burton Brown. You're on the
Dan Kapla Show. Text your thoughts to five seven, seven

(09:31):
three nine. Started with Dan or call in three zero
three seven to one three eight two five five.

Speaker 8 (09:42):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
So I'm gonna go to them right now. Joe from Denver,
Welcome to the Dan Kapla Show. You're with Christy Vernon Brown.

Speaker 6 (09:53):
I'm Christie.

Speaker 4 (09:54):
Always good they'd hear your voice on the radio. Thanks
v Ed. Yeah, I I'm looking for some help trying
to get a handle on what truth RFK is trying
to communicate to the people. Sure when it comes to
things like vaccines, because for me, it would be the

(10:17):
same truth that has always been, which is they call
it practicing medicine for reasons and everyone is unique. Vaccines
are not one hundred percent, and you go with it,
and you're try and avoid the trying to be smart
and avoid putting yourself in a situation where you might

(10:39):
have one of those bad but rare reactions. Sure, yeah,
what's the truth?

Speaker 2 (10:46):
Well, you know what, I actually think that'd be a
very long conversation because it's somewhat depends on which vaccine
you're talking about. But I think part of what you
were specifically talking about today with a COVID vaccine is
that right now, anyone who is a senior citizen, anyone
who has about a list of thirty different underlying conditions,
can still go get the COVID vaccine anytime they want.
But he's saying that everyone else is not necessarily indicated

(11:07):
that you need it because the COVID vaccine is experimental
for so many so many well that's so many years
because the limit around for five years, but it is
still in the experimental stages where they're still discovering the
impacts of the vaccine on like young men the age
of thirty and things like that. And so he's saying,
you can still get it because you have to get
a prescription to get it, so you have those informed
discussion with your doctor before you just like go get it.

(11:29):
So I think that's just one example the kind of
truth he's trying to push is like, don't just believe
everything you've been told about. Oh my goodness, everyone needs
it right now, go get it. If you have these
underlying conditions, you're a senior citizen. But if you don't
have those conditions, go have a real conversation and find.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
The facts out. Does that mean answer your question?

Speaker 4 (11:48):
So if you don't already know that, that's a surprise.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
Well, I think.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
People who've been exposed to the pharmaceutical industry, and especially
who lives through COVID, there is a lot pushed on
people that like, you're a terrible person if you don't
get this vaccine right now. This vaccine is going to
save your life, no matter what age you are, no
matter I mean, like, think back to all the things
that people were told. They weren't told what you and
I are talking about right now.

Speaker 4 (12:12):
Ridiculous. No, And and even back then I thought it
was ridiculous. I certainly think if we didn't do anything,
we definitely would have had a bunch more dead people.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
Great grief you people, but.

Speaker 4 (12:28):
Those you know, and now we know what class those
people were, right, the preconditions overweight old, yeah, exactly, And
so yeah, that all comes with hindsight. But at the time,
during what you know was the pandemic, you had people
dropping like flies. You know, we had project work speed

(12:52):
and we got a vaccine made and the rest of
the world sucked wind while we tried to get ourselves
back together.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Exclusive of sure, And I think what he's trying to
say is that you don't still need.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
To live like that right now.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
And I think he wants to pull it back and say, hey,
now that we have discovered it more then, I mean,
I kind of think that is what he's saying. And
so and the problem is, like you're a very studied person,
and so am I, but not everyone is. And a
lot of people are still scared about what they heard
during that time and aren't doing all the research they
need to do. And so he's saying, go talk to
your doctor, get real research done instead of just walking

(13:30):
in and getting vaccine you may not need.

Speaker 4 (13:34):
But that's not what he's saying. Go to your doctor, got's.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
Order from the federal government. That's the new rule, is
that you can go get it. You have to get
as to get there for your doctor.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
Sure, but the message I'm hearing coming out from uh
his ahhs is that all of this stuff is bs
and have been lied to, and you shouldn't believe any
of it. And that is just as bad as being

(14:08):
a blind follower to the opposite side.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
And I think, and I've said before, I don't agree
with everything that he says. I don't agree with everything
anyone says, actually, but maybe my mom, I think. But
to say that that's all he's saying, I think is
a misrepresentation. Very few people have listened to the entire hearing.
Very people have listened to every speech he's given on this.
People who say, what you're saying, that's what the clips

(14:33):
that the media chooses to play about what he says.
That's not the full picture of the information he's giving people.

Speaker 4 (14:39):
No, I understand it. And I also understand how people
use words and phrases to put out two ideas at
the same time. And that's the trick that he and
many of these people who exploit people's misunderstanding or lack

(15:01):
of understanding of complex things like diseases and biology and
how our body works, that they buy into this idea
that uh, you know, floor ride is making you trans
in the water, you know, crazure.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
Sure, And I think I just I just disagree with
you saying that he's the only one trying to exploit,
Like what has the pharmaceutical industry done for a long time,
Like it has lied to people, It has given people
not the full picture of information. So is there some
like directing their own preferred information on people from a
number of sides involved in this kind of debate.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
I think yes. But I think the advantage to.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
What RFK Junior is doing is he's pushing back against
the system. I don't agree with everything he says either,
but saying, hey, let's have a second look at this.
Don't believe everything the pharmaceutical sutical industry is pushing on you.
Don't believe it just because the medical industry says it
to you, Like, look at the other facts and then
make decision. I think that's actually healthy for a lot
of Americans because we've been told for so long just

(16:04):
to believe everything that we're told and that's not really accurate.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
And it's also paid for by the pharmaceutical industry.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
So you and I may have a little bit of
disagreement on it, but I just think people need to
look at more information.

Speaker 4 (16:16):
When he looks at double blind studies, he doesn't consider
those facts.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
I think there's a lot of studies he considers facts,
a lot of studies that are hidden by the pharmaceutical
industry because they didn't pay for it.

Speaker 3 (16:25):
And I think that's the point that he's making. So
I actually have.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Another caller I should take before I have to go
to a break. But I still appreciate you calling in, Joe,
Thank you very much. Okay, we're going to go to
Robert from Broomfield. Welcome to the Dan Kaplis Show. We
have like a minute and a half. Hello.

Speaker 7 (16:42):
I just wanted to say that in twenty President Trump
just before the election that if he lost the election
to a loser like Biden, that he would be such
a loser he may have to leave the country. He
was totally unprepared to lose. He was in the debate

(17:03):
and people got offended by the way he treated Biden
in the debate, right, And he's a cool headed guy.
He came Bulthy Gabbard and R. F. K. Junior, both
of them liberal Democrats, to get the three percent he
needed in the Swing.

Speaker 6 (17:22):
States, and both of them are why he.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
Won the swing joints the Swing states to vote for
Tulsey Gabbard when she ran for president, and they didn't
vote for our when he ran either, So I actually
don't think that's at all why he won the Swing States.

Speaker 7 (17:37):
Well, the Poles were shoeing they would give Trump three percent.

Speaker 6 (17:41):
But in any.

Speaker 7 (17:41):
Case, I think you're making a mistake going along with Trump.
He's a very bull headed guy, and I don't think
you're prepared because the Poles are showing that he's way behind,
and the Poles.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Robert and I have to take your break right now.
You're welcome to callback in. We can keep talking after
the But Trump is it up for reelection, So I
don't think he's concerned it's getting reelected. I think he's
concerned with implementing good policies for the people of Colorado.
Call back eight after the break if you want to.
If you want to talk some more, I'm Christy Burton Brown.
You're on the Dan Caples Show. You also can send
your thoughts to five seven seven three nine, text it

(18:15):
in or call three zero three seven one three eight
two five five and we can talk.

Speaker 8 (18:27):
You're listening to the Dan Kapliss Show podcast.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
Welcome back to the Dan Capless Show. I'm Christy Burton Brown.
Remember that at any time. You can call in and
debate me yourself if you want to. Three oh three
seven one three A two five five More texts Dan
at five seven seven three nine. I got a couple
other texts in reference to some of the things we've
been talking about today. We showed a clip of RFK
Junior and Michael Bennett, our senator here in Colorado, yell

(18:54):
yet each other out of hearing on the hill today
and someone said, I was taught fifty plus years ago
that if you have to yell, you have just lost
the discussion.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
Just saying from an old guy, good advice.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
And then another text a saying I don't like how
Colorado spends our money. Seems only corporations are making money,
just like taking out the little guy.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
It's all about corporate, corporate. Corporate.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
Actually find it to be an interesting point, and I'm
just not sure that Colorado is spending money on corporations.
Colorado actually tends to oppose corporations. They just raise taxes
on businesses. During the special session, the far left ballot
proposals with tax businesses small businesses even in the state
even more, and businesses are exiting Colorado by pretty big

(19:36):
numbers right now, just because the business environment is hugely
overregulated and they're really being priced out of business. So
I'm guessing the text are possibly meant something else by that,
But I really don't think that in Colorado corporations are
fairing too well with the regulations constantly passed by.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
The left in our state. But feel free to also
send in your thoughts we can talk about them. One
thing I did want to.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
Get to today, it's just sort of another national issue,
is the US government taking out drug cartel members from Venezuela.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
Marca Rubio Secretary of State, and I.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Don't know what the names of all the other jobs
that he has are, but certainly primarily punctually a secretary
of State here in the United States. He commented on
the new war on drugs. Because of course, there's some
people from the far left that are like, oh my goodness,
how dare the US government take out all these people
on a boat, even if they were drug cartel members.

(20:32):
Apparently now they want to protect drug cartels. But Marco
Rubio talking about what in fact we're doing now on
this new war on drugs, Let's take a listen.

Speaker 9 (20:40):
The president is going to be on offense against drug
cartels and drug trafficking in the United States. The destabilize
it's not just the country, but the entire Caribbean basin.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
These particular drugs were probably.

Speaker 9 (20:50):
Headed to Trinidad or some other country in the Caribbean,
at which point they just contribute to the instability these
countries they're facing. So the President's been very clear he's
going to use the full power of America, whole might
of the United States to take on and eradicate these
drug cartels, no matter where they're operating from, and no
matter how long they've been able to act with immunity.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
That those days are over, and those days are over,
is what he's saying.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
So President Trump is saying, and it's been very clear
for quite a while, that he considers drug cartels terrorist organizations.
They just commit terrorist acts in a different sort of way,
killing people one by one through drugs. And hearing Colorado,
it's largely through fentanyl. The rates of death through fentanyl
in Colorado are just huge. And it's definitely the open

(21:35):
border policies the Biden administration that led to so many
drug cartel members and drugs themselves flooding across our borders,
and now President Trump is saying, hey, you may have
had an easy time coming across our border and making
your way eventually to the United States with your drugs
during the Biden administration, but we're taking it very seriously.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
We're going to take you out wherever we find you.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
And that's something that I really think the majority of
Americans agree with, because, especially here in Colorado, almost everyone
I talked to knows someone who is deeply affected by
fentanyl or maybe math, heroin, cocaine, one of the other
many drugs here on the streets in Colorado.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
I think we were number one for.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Cocaine use in the nation last year, even though fentanyl
is the one that most people talk about just because
it's so so deadly, But there's a lot of drugs
running a rampant here in Colorado. So many people here
definitely welcome the news that President Trump is taking the
drug cartels very seriously, and like, if you want to
prey on other people by bringing drugs in and violating
a lot of laws, like he's just not going to

(22:32):
let you come in for free. He's going to take
you out where you are. And now the drug cartels
are unoticed if they want to keep operating like they're
bringing it on themselves. Pam Bondi also made a statement
that's worth listening to on the President Trump's work on
drug cartels as well, talking about her office and Christy
Noam's office. Department of Homeland Security also taking some new

(22:54):
strides in this effort.

Speaker 10 (22:56):
We are now expanding Joint Task Force Alpha. It has
five steps we will now cover. The task force will
now cover our northern border in Canada, of course, and
all of our maritime borders. Our incredible partner again at DHS,
Christinome and I are expanding this to include our DEA,

(23:19):
ATF and FBI agents to this task force to give
us even more manpower. We will receive more resources to
prosecute these cases and key figures in cartel, human trafficking,
and transnational criminals. We will strengthen our collaboration with foreign

(23:42):
law enforcement throughout this world to protect not only their
citizens but ours and return these criminals to American soil
for prosecution.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
And I think what you're going to see when the
United States now takes drug cartels more seriously is that
we'll actually have less drug cartel activity in the United
States and Pambondi's absolutely right that often drug cartele activity
is very connected to human trafficking activity, and we've seen
just floods of that coming across our border during the
Biden years because there just really wasn't any effort to

(24:16):
stop it at the border. I mean, any effort is
a course of slight exaggeration. They always do something, but
they never did They never did enough. And the Trump
administration is just proving what more can be done. And
even President Trump, through his use of tariffs, has compelled
both Canada and Mexico to take their borders more seriously.
And I think sometimes, you know, people focus solely on

(24:36):
the economic impacts, but they forget that tariffs are also
a bargaining chip to say, hey, if you if you
don't like these, and you don't like them at this amount,
then you need to take our other policies seriously and
actually work with us on making an effort to close
your borders like people are. Drug cartels are using Canada
and Mexico as open doors into the United States. If

(24:56):
you are Canada and you are Mexico, you hold some
responsibility for letting those drug cartels go through your borders
too and enter into ours. So I do think President Trump,
along with Marco Rubio and Pampondi and Christinome, are doing
a good job of using the different arms of the
government to crack down on drug cartels and say no,
it's no longer a heyday for drug cartels and human

(25:17):
traffickers to come into our nation and do whatever they want.
We're going to not only stop you from coming into
our borders, but we're going to find you when you're
close to our borders, and we're going to take you
out and make sure you're not coming in here and
peddling your poison to American citizens. And this is something
that people in Colorado should be very happy about, because
we're one of the states that has been deeply, deeply
affected by the fetanol crisis pouring across our border, which

(25:38):
largely comes from China and filters through India and then
filters through Mexico.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
And all of these places.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
And it's one of the ways that China wages its
silent war, so to speak, on the United States, is
passing drugs through our borders and finding ways to get
them here and destroying our citizens in ways that they can,
while of course they can't wage in all war on
us right now, that's just one of the things they
use to really destroy the effectiveness of our citizens, our workforce,

(26:07):
and so many other things. So I think it's great
that all across President Trump's government he's taking this really
seriously and saying this is important enough to actually deal
with in a different way and make sure drug cartels
are going to take us seriously. I'm going to look
at a couple of texts this person saying, I think
Rubio might have been transmitting what is coming when he

(26:28):
pointed out Maduro has been prosecuted and found guilty in
the United States. I also thought it was interesting how
many conversations were centered around Maduro, the Venezuelan president.

Speaker 3 (26:37):
I believe, or I think they say, he's not.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
The legitimate president of Venezuela, who certainly has been, you know,
instigating and supporting a lot of this drug cartel activity.
Huge bad actor when it comes to the United States.
So I do think the Trump administration is very focused
on him and his role in all of this. Another text,
this goes back to the RFK Junior conversation we're having

(27:00):
earlier in big Pharma. I'll never trust big Pharma or
any representative who takes their money, and then I think
they're also asking something.

Speaker 3 (27:07):
Up in North Glen here in Colorado.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
Or are they really handing out red cars to illegals
telling them how to avoid ice?

Speaker 3 (27:13):
I don't know, that's a very interesting question.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
There certainly are municipalities and cities in Colorado who absolutely
are sanctuary cities and are going out of their way
actually helping illegal immigrants far more than they're helping their
own citizens. So, you know, something like that wouldn't surprise me,
But I don't have any data on it myself. If
you find out anything, you should definitely let us know.
Christy Burton Brown, you're on the Dan Kapla Show. Over
the break, you can text five seven seven three nine

(27:37):
start it with Dan, give us your thoughts or call
in three zero three seven one three eight two five
y five.

Speaker 8 (27:49):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast and take.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
A call from Kevin from Boulder. Welcome to the Dankapla Show.

Speaker 3 (27:57):
Kevin.

Speaker 6 (27:59):
Yeah, the Democrat Party has been evil from day one.
They were created to protect slavery. They killed tens of
thousands of US citizens to do it. Then they created
the Ku Klux Klan then they created the Federal Reserve,

(28:20):
which is a private bank owned by the banks in
violation of the Constitution and the Bible, which requires a
gold standard which restricts their spending. And nine to eleven
is coming up next week. Everybody should go to Architects
and Engineers dot com. They've been doing forensic research on

(28:40):
one still today and there's still evidence in the buildings,
in the dirt, in the air, and in the water,
and they have like eight hours of videos. And after
viewing those videos, if you can't say that nine one
one was an inside job, then you're in denial or

(29:01):
you're a Democrat.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
Oh wow, thank you for you know, providing that perspective.

Speaker 3 (29:06):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
I think one point that you bring up that I
do think a lot of Democrats had to forget is
the origins of their party. Like in the original Lincoln
Douglas debates, it was the Democrat candidate supporting slavery and
the Republican candidate the first Republican president ever to oppose it,
and a lot of Democrats would conveniently like to forget
that part of their history. They were actually the party
that also opposed women's right to vote and so many

(29:30):
equality measures across the years. They've been on the wrong
side of civil rights do for that matter, other than
a few exceptions. So thank you for reminding people of that.
I appreciate you calling in. Hey, KBB Kelly, I have
a question for you.

Speaker 11 (29:43):
Okay, in the first hour, you made a wonderful point.
And since you've been traveling around as the Republican chair,
you kind of brought up the wolves being reintroduced. Yes,
so when you were on your travels and trips and

(30:05):
different things talking to ranchers and farmers, how did they
feel about that?

Speaker 3 (30:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (30:11):
No, And this is an issue that continues to come up,
especially because the state's complete overspending of the on woof
ray introduction. Here in Colorado, voters promised seven hundred to
nine hundred thousand, it'said it's been three million, and then
this year budgeted two point three additional million dollars.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
The farmers and ranchers are, of course, the ones who
voted against it.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
In twenty twenty it barely passed, and it was voters
in Denver and some of the city areas they are like.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
Oh my goodness, wolves, they're so cute, They're so great.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
Let's bring them back to Colorado. That's why I barely won,
but the people took Kelly. To your point, the ranchers,
the farmers and people actually have to deal with the
impacts of the wolves, like they voted against it. And yeah,
when I traveled the state, like, they were still wondering
how it was going to be rolled out because I
was chair from twenty twenty one to very early twenty
twenty three, so it hadn't fully rolled out yet. They

(30:57):
hadn't seen all the impacts quite yet. But now if
you go talk to the farmers and ranchers, like so
many of them have had cattle and dogs continually attacked
by the wolves.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
And then this is why.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
It's costing the state more money because they have to
repay them everything that it cost them. And so it's
just this vicious cycle that isn't helping anyone because then
coloral parks and wildlife can also shoot the wolves if
they continue to prey on cattle and other farm animals.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
So is the effectuation worth it?

Speaker 2 (31:26):
I know, and I think even some wildlike life activists
would say that it hasn't been worth it in the
actual rollout, because you know, we specifically brought wolves that
were bad actors in Washington, Oregon, Canada here to Colorado
and then ended up killing them.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
So you even have some.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
Wildlife activists that are like, yeah, this isn't what was
supposed to happen here, bring wolves to Colorado only.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
To shoot them. So yeah, big problems with that all around.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
I think one thing I want to cover quickly before
we leave, because we're almost dead for the day, is
this clip that Ted Cruz put on his Twitter he
was debating, responding, I think to Tim Kain, who, as
you remember may remember, was Hillary Clinton's running mates the
thingfully should win.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
Sweet every kame vice president.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
But he questions what the founding fathers thought about where
our rights come from. I say, this is a core
American ideal. So let's listen in real quick the notion.

Speaker 12 (32:16):
That rights don't come from laws and don't come from
the government, but come from the creator. That's what the
Iranian government believes. It's a theocratic regime that bases its
rule on Shiah law and target soonies behinds, Jews, Christians,
and other religious minorities, and they do it because they

(32:38):
believe that they understand what natural rights are from their creator.
So the statement that our rights do not come from
our laws or our governments is extremely troubling. I think
the motto over the Supreme Court is equal justice under law.
The oaths that you and I take pledged to support
and defend the Constitution of the United States arbitrarily defined

(33:01):
natural rights.

Speaker 13 (33:04):
Mister Barnes, I'd actually like to go back to the
exchange you had with Senator Kane, and I wish Senator
Kane was still here. Senator Kane and I were elected
together thirteen years ago.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
He is a friend.

Speaker 13 (33:17):
I would actually encourage observers to go back and listen
to what Senator Kine said because I have to say it.
I think was disturbing and showed much of where today's
Democrat Party.

Speaker 6 (33:32):
Has gone wrong.

Speaker 13 (33:34):
So Senator Kine said in this hearing that he found
it a radical and dangerous notion that you would say
our rights came from God and not from government. I
just walked into the hearing as he was saying that,
and I almost fell out of my chair.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
I'll joby right there.

Speaker 2 (33:54):
But I think what's really interesting about that is Tim
Kain isn't the only one spreading this thought today that
it's so important that we believe that our rights come
from the government.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
Like, why do you think liberals want us to believe that?

Speaker 2 (34:06):
Why do you think they want to push people into
thinking your rights are come from the government, not from God. Well,
if they come from the government, the government can also
take them away. The government can decide which ones you
get and which ones you don't, which ones they'd like
to expand which ones they'd.

Speaker 3 (34:18):
Like to limit.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
It is a very convenient philosophical theory for anyone who
wants to have the power to define your rights for you.
And so I think this is absolutely the kind of theory,
kind of thought that has to be pushed back against,
as Ted Cruise did very well if we had time
to listen to the entire clip. He goes on to
quote the Founding Documents written by the Founding Fathers that

(34:40):
in our own Declaration of Independence, we recognize that our
rights are inalienable, that they come from our creator, that
every human being is endowed with them from the moment
of their creation. Like, that is what we recognize when
we started this country. And apparently people like Tim Kaine
think they're smarter than the Founding Fathers. I don't think
he's ever started in a nation it is claimed to
that that's what or real law believes like, Please give

(35:01):
me a break. They believe that you must subscribe to
their religion or they're going to go after you.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
No one in America has ever done that. That's not
what our government has founded on.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
We say that you have rights because you were created
by God, and we're going to make sure you get
to keep them.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
So keep that in mind.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
We got to keep fighting for our original ideals. Thanks
for being here on the Dan Kapli Show.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
I'm Christy Vernon Brown. I'll see you again another time
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