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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
Here, I'm six point thirty k how with low kind
of Sheriff Steve Reeams as your guest host on this
wonderful Friday afternoon. I was telling Kelly before the show started,
this has got to be the longest four day week
I've ever been through in my life. It's been it's
been a busy, hectic one and it's ending with finding
out that and I may have to release a guy
that I really don't believe is safe for the public.
(00:35):
But all that being said, we're going to shift into
another gear here in the second hour, and we're going
to have a wonderful young lady on with us on
the phone here. She's running for a seat down in
the Pueblo area for House District sixty and her name
is Michelle Gray. Michelle, are you with us on the line?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
I am, well, Michelle.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
We haven't got a chance to meet in person, but
I think we're going to do so in November when
I come down to Pueblo for an event you guys
are having. But when we connected about that event, I
started doing a little research and found out, well, heck,
this lady's she's running to getting the mix down here
at the state Capitol. So if you would, Michelle, tell
us a little bit about what kind of got you
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got you activated in politics, a little bit about your
background and why you decided to run.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Okay, well, thank you much so much, Share Frems for
having me on, and thank you for all that you're
doing in Weld County. It is clear how much you
have given to your community, and I just want to
say I appreciate that. Thank you. You're welcome. I am
a mom, I'm a teacher, and I'm a former candidate
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for treasurer down here in Pueblo. But I'm also the
current chair of the Pueblo County Republican Party. And I
don't know if you've looked into it, but under the leadership,
this leadership, we were able to fly Pueblo read after
at least fifty years of Democrat rule. And we've done
that two years running.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Now that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
So I'm wanting it's really been a lot of fun,
and so I'm really wanting to bring that kind of
energy and that kind of change to our state capital.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
You bet. So what did you do prior to getting
into politics, Like, what was your normal life before you
got activated to say, hey, I'm going to I'm going
to take this Republican I'm going to take Pueblo and
make it a Republican stronghold.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Well, I was a teacher also for thirty years. Yeah,
And I was a teacher of mathematics in Pueblo City.
And then I retired a year after COVID. I did
the whole COVID teaching experience and went out to Fremont
County High School, where I taught there for three years.
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And it was then that I got involved in the
caucus system and how politics actually works. And so that
is the beginning of my beginning, is getting in Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
I wanted you to tell that story because people, a
lot of people, especially those of us on the right,
have this mindset that you know, all these teachers are
just liberals and they all hate Republicans, and you're not
that person.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
I am not that person. It was actually kind of
funny because when I was running here in Pueblo County.
I had teachers walking up to me and asking me
how I could be a Republican and a teacher and so.
But there are a lot of teachers in public education
who are indeed conservative, but they are quiet. They don't
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make a lot of ruckus about it.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Well, I happened to be married to one, so I
know exactly what you're talking about. My wife's the school
teacher as well, and I don't think she's as far
of the right as I am, but I think she's
definitely a registered Republican. All right. So, having said all that,
you're looking at running for HD sixty, what area down
in the Pueblo area does that represent? You know, what's
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the district for HD sixty. Is there someone in that
seat now or are you trying to are you trying
to overthrow someone? Or is that going to be an
open seat and you're trying to retain it as a Republican.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Okay, that's a whole lot of questions.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Sure, but you're a teacher.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
You got it, I do, I got it. And so,
actually the counties that you're looking at are Pueblo, Teller, Chafee, Custer,
and Fremont County.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Well, that's a big district.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
And it is a big district. It's only pieces of
Pueblo County, though mostly there's nine precincts out in Pueblo West,
and that's where I reside, and so that is what
you're looking at in Pueblo, although you would be looking
at Pueblo as a whole at the state Capitol. But
I am running because families are being squeezed right now
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by all the kitchen table issues, and their concerns are real.
And when I'm out there talking to the community in
rural Colorado, they believe their voice isn't being heard, and
so they're concerned about agriculture, they're concerned about water, but
they're concerned about their way of life and they don't
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believe that they're being heard right now. And so I am.
I will say, I am the only declared candidate for
House Discard sixty, and I have called We do have
a current representative, Stephanie Luck, and I have called her
and asked her if she was going to declare, and
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she has not decided what she wants to do. And
so I've been meeting with people, with water groups, with
elected officials and community members and they're all pretty excited
that I'm actually out and talking to them. They're actually thrilled,
and they're actually thanking me for being in attendance.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
So that's half the battle, right when you're running for
political office, so you've got to be out there so
you can talk to the voters. And it's unusual to
me how difficult that is for for a lot of
politicians to do, you know, And sometimes I think it's
I don't want to be held accountable for their votes.
As the chairwoman of the of your Republican party down there,
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you don't. You don't have a chance to hide from
from your constituent base because you're in the middle of
making sure things work, so great place to run from.
You highlighted some of your your key issues down there.
What do you think is the thing right now that
is worrying the people in your district the most? I mean,
you mentioned water, you mentioned agricultural rights. You know, in Colorado,
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I think we see issues with crime, we see issues
with drug abuse, with mental health issues.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Are you hearing some of that too, Oh yeah, you
have that in real Colorado. You go down so you're
going to be looking at, you know, Canyon City, Penrose,
Fremont County and those all businesses are also talking about crime.
Everything is crime written. And so one of the things
that I want to do when I'm at the Campbell
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is to amend or repeal or do something to get
rid of our soft down crime bills.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
So I guess dovetailing to that. What do you think
about Governor pola is saying that the state of Colorado
is not a sanctuary state.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
I don't think he's a very honest person.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Well, boy, that's that's on point. So as a as
a constituent, and that that Pueblo area, do you have
people that are tired of this quote unquote non sanctuary
status that our governor says? I mean, are the people
in Pueblo tired of a legal immigration? Do they do
they want to deal with it? Is that what you're
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hearing from your voters?
Speaker 3 (07:53):
I yeah, I'm hearing that from our voters. They're tired
of the high crime. I mean, so when you're talking
about illegal immigrants in particular, it is the ones that are,
you know, violent criminals. Those are the ones that they
don't understand why the Democrat Party wants to leave violent
criminals on the street. And not you know, deport them
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from the United States.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Absolutely, So it's I got to read this to you
because we get texts while we have our people on
and sometimes you need a little bit of win in
your sales and instance, as Sheriff Michelle Gray is a
terrific Republican and a true fighter for our rights. We
down here are proud of her. So put that in
your put that on your resume. I mean, it's always
good to get some positive feedback. And you know, I
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know you've got a lot of work to do before
that November deadline shows up. But if people want to
get behind you, if they want to help your campaign,
how do they do so? How do they find you
and how do they support you financially?
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Well? Right now, that's my goal currently is to find
one hundred new roots candidates a month. And that's a
big goal. If you know anything about politics, and I'm
sure you do, yes, and so they can contact me.
Actually I will read my phone number over the mail.
It's over the radio seven one nine two five two
(09:15):
six zero one one. They can call me directly. They
can also go to Gray for HD sixty dot com
in the forest spelled out fo R and then I'm
also on Facebook, Gray for HD sixty. Well, I'm on
almost all the social platforms, but that's the one that
they can go to.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Got you. Hey, good luck to you. Being a declared
candidate is tough. You're you know, you're in the spotlight,
but you're out there fighting a good fight. And everything
I've heard about you is that you are a true
hardcore Republican and that's what I like to hear. So again,
what's that website where people can find you?
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Gray for HD sixty dot com.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Well, thanks for coming on with us, and it was
a pleasure, a pleasure having you on.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Well, thank you so very much, and God bless all
the work that you are doing in Colorado.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
You bad. Thank you. That was Michelle Gray running for
HD sixty. And with that we'll go to break. You're
listening to Dan Kapla show here on six thirty k
How with Well Kenny Sheriff, Steve Riams.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
And now back to the Dan Taplas Show podcast, your.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Guest host on this great Friday. I'm so glad this
week is over. As I hinted before, it's been a
long four day week and sometimes you know that stuff
just happens you can't predict when things are going to
get a little messy. It's just it's been one of
those weeks. And apparently it was for someone else to
I have a text here, says sheriff. It was was
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being in all caps, a long week. I'm glad I'm
not the only one, you know. I've been highlighting an
incident that happened in Weld County where we had a
refugee person in our community from another country who decided
to violently assault a citizen to the point where he
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could have very easily killed this person. He was the suspect,
was charged with attempted second degree murder, booked into my jail,
and there's a whole host of other crimes. Come to
find out, this person's had like ten unique contacts with
law enforcement over the time that he's been in the
country here on refugee status. But the person was found
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incompetent to stand trial and is about to be released
on Monday if things continue to go the way they
are through the Weld County criminal court system. And I
say air quotes because it doesn't seem like we have
a criminal court system anymore. But that stemmed Alexa to
ask a question. Sheriff Freemes, can Weld County Sheriffs X
account post the videos of the crime that this individual
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is charged with, and the answer to the point answer
to that is heck yeah. If on Monday we end
up being forced to release this person, I feel an
obligation to let the public know that this is the
kind of conduct this person is capable of. So not
only will I release the video of the fight that
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he was most recently charged with, but there's actually video
of a previous incident in I think downtown Fort Collins
where a similar thing occurred, and again this same individual
was released from custody because he was incompetent to stand trial.
So I think it's only fair for the citizens out
there to know that, hey, you've got potentially a very
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dangerous person re entering the community, and the criminal justice
system doesn't seem to want to It doesn't seem to
have the ability to deal with it. I shouldn't say
doesn't want to. I've actually talked with my district attorney,
Michael Rourke about this specific individual. Michael came on the
radio with us. Michael Rourke came on the radio with
us and talked about this giant set of handcuffs that
have been placed on district attorneys. And you know, it's
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unfortunate because we have liberal legislators down at the state
Capitol who push this stuff through, and we even had
some Republicans sign onto it saying, well, if a person's
incompetent to stand trial, we should just let him out
of jail. And I understand some of the you know,
some of the constitutional issues that get triggered by holding
someone that you know can't understand the gravity of their situation.
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But what compounds it with this particular individual In my
instance or in the instance that I'm referring to, he's
in general population in my jail and operating just fine.
So in my opinion, this is a this is an act,
this is a game, this is a I know how
to beat the system, and it's working. And it's unfortunate
because if this person's released, I am quite certain we
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will see a repeat of what of what has occurred.
I mean, it's it's already proven itself at least ten
times over with this individual.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
So hey, I have a question for you.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Go ahead, yeah, go ahead, What do you got.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
So are there any well I don't know if you
can actually talk about this, but were there any special
circumstances related with weapons or anything in this particular case.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
When you say special, sir, he didn't have a gun.
So I'll give you a rundown of the of the incident.
So there it makes more sense. You've got this group
of friends, male and female. They're leaving a bar in
downtown Greeley. They've had a few drinks. They're walking back
to their car, which is several blocks away from where
they were drinking and having dinner. You know, they've got
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a few few alcoholic beverages on board, but they've got
a designated driver. They're just trying to go home safely,
and they're walking through this parking lot area and they
see this group of folks kind of being a little disruptive,
and this group of individuals kind of starts, you know,
taunting the partygoers who are just trying to make their
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way home. So, as any protect if person would do,
the eventual victim kind of puts himself between the male
and female friends that he's with and says, hey, you know,
we're just trying to go home, and he he becomes
the center of attention for these uh, these criminals are
suspected criminals, so his friends continue to make their way
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to their car. He's trying to kind of back out
of the situation, and it escalates quickly to the point
that they square off. There's a fight about to happen,
and of course he's had a few drinks, the other
person has not, and that's never really a fair fight.
So the suspect, he gets the jump on him, beats
him pretty hard and it takes a little while before
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the thing can be stopped. The victim in this case
ends up in the hospital, ends up having to go
through rehabilitative services to be able to walk again, to
be able to talk normally. I mean, it's a it's
a pretty bad beating and it's all for nothing. I mean,
there was this guy did nothing wrong other than trying
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to take his group of friends and get him back
to the car. But the no weapons involved other than
just absolute brutality.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
But you wouldn't say that assault with the deadly weapon
when he gets beaten to the point where he has
to have therapy and has to relearn a lot of
different So the services I hate, I hate the term
assault weapon. I really do well because anything can be
an assault.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
In this case, this guy himself was the assault weapon.
I mean, it's again, if if this all comes to head,
like I'm fearful that it will, we're going to put
the video out because I think making the media where
I think making the public aware of just how bad
these individuals are. It's it's my duty as a sheriff
to say, you know what, this can't continue to happen
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in our in our society. And I said during the break,
I would look for the bill that israel related to
this new law that's in place that says, hey, you
got to release these these guys when they get an
incompetency evaluation. The bill is HB twenty four one zero
three four and it's probably a very dry read for
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most everybody out there, but if you do take the
time to go look at it, you're going to go, well, gosh,
hindsight being twenty twenty, this makes no sense. And practically
it's dangerous. I mean, it is extremely dangerous to think
that just because someone can get through an evaluation and
convince someone that they are quote unquote incompetent in that
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given moment, doesn't mean they should get a free pass
to just re enter society. A couple of things here,
text messages coming in. Why can't that person be held
in a secure mental institution until he is capable of
standing trial. Well, that's a great question, because this new
law in place says no, he's incompetent. There's not really
a chance for restoration services. He had to read the
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law to get all the details. But it's a tough deal.
And another one here does this Will this individual have
access to firearms? He shouldn't, but that doesn't mean he
won't because we all know that only the honest people
follow gun laws. Criminals don't. We get back from Bray.
Hopefully we'll have Art del Cueto on here, but he's
(18:18):
doing an interview for a few other big media outlets.
If you're listening to Dan Capless Show on six point thirty.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
K House, you're listening to the Dan Kapliss Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Caller because we have a very busy guy on the line.
His name is Art del Cueto, and Art is a
border patrol guy, and I'll let him get into the
details of his background. But he's the vice president and
spokesperson for the National Border Patrol Council, also working with
fair the Federation for American Immigration Reform as a consultant.
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He's kind of the guy that you need to know
when you want to know things about the border.
Speaker 6 (18:56):
Art. How you doing tonight, good buddy. Hey. I want
to be clear because it just happened to me right now,
and I send out the message and I guess not
everyone has has received them or has been aware. I am.
I'm no longer with the National Border Patrol Council, Okay.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
All right, well you are.
Speaker 6 (19:15):
Yeah, I spent my position with the Council, but obviously, look,
I'm a lifelong border resident. Yes, been in law enforcement
on the border for you know, close to thirty years.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
It's I've seen.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
A lot, I've done a lot, but I'm my role,
my full time role now will be with the Federation
for American Immigration Reform. It's just it gives you opportunity
to get involved in other things at the same time.
So yeah, right, and continuing to tell people the truth,
because look, we're moving forward, and yes, we see what's
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happening at the border, and it's more secure than it
ever has been. But that doesn't mean we need to
relax and not do nothing about it. And unfortunately, we
have way too many politicians in the US that continue
to add obstacles and prevent law enforcement from doing their job.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Well, Art, if you would, I mean, your background speaks
for itself. I know that you've been down there on
the border for a really long time under Biden, and
I've had you on the show before. But if for
the for tonight's listeners, if you would under the Biden administration,
what was the border like for that four years?
Speaker 6 (20:25):
It was picture the day after Thanksgiving at a shopping
thetter and the pictures that we would see, you know,
of all the specials and people just running, And that's
what it was. For four years. It was complete chaos.
The border was completely open. There was lawlessness. There was
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individuals that when you would arrest them, they would flat
out tell you I'm here because your president told me
I could come here and there's nothing you can do
about it. That's what we were listening to. That's what
we were seeing on our borders.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
And what's it like now.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
It's the complete opposite. Obviously, you're still going to have
those individuals that are trying to cross into the United States,
but now you have the personnel on that border to
be able to make those arrests. You have individuals that
are able that are wanting to prosecute some of these individuals.
There was an agent that was attacked, you know, at
the beginning of the year. That individual today just today
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got prosecuted. They gave him five years for attacking a
border patrol agent that wasn't heard of before, that wasn't
heard of. You would have agents get attacked and you
would see the prosecutor will not really push a prosecution.
It was it was kind of like a not funny
joke amongst the agents where hey, if you're not bleeding,
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don't bother calling because you're not going to prosecute anyone.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
So it was like just a cost of doing the
job for a lot of these folks.
Speaker 6 (21:53):
Correct. Yeah, And it was a free thro all and
and and you know, honestly, the cartels, they know they've
made billions of the they have better technology, they have
better intel, They don't have to worry about a budget
or a government shutdown at the end of the year. Sure,
hey buy whatever they want. They buy as much equipment
and everything else they can think of. And but now
the border is secure. Unfortunately, we need to continue the
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work because as we've talked about it. Many individuals have
already entered the country, especially under the Biden administration. So
it's kind of like I've been talking to an individuals
that said, look, you're guarding the hen House, but unfortunately
there's a couple of wolves already living in the house.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Sure, so you've got to figure out how to get
those wolves out of here.
Speaker 6 (22:34):
Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Absolutely so. Does IYES have the resources that they need
at this point to go into the interior United States
as they're you know, attempting to do. Can they make
that push in the next four years? I mean, because
who knows what happens when when the next election cycle happens.
Do you think all those wolves can be caught in
the next well, I guess three years now.
Speaker 6 (22:55):
Right. The issue they're going to have, they're going to
continue to see and we're seeing it is you have
these things, try city policies, you have these these you know,
individuals that are in elected positions within their government. I
don't want to say leadership positions because they're far from
leaders they're just an elected positions, and they they continue
to create that magnet and say, hey.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
You can come here, you can.
Speaker 6 (23:16):
Feel safe, this is a safe space. So what that
does is that'll create that migration of the criminal elements
into those areas. And if the federal government is having
a hard time going back and forth with the local authorities,
and that's because of the people in charge of the
local authorities now allowing them to work hand in hand,
those are the problems we're going to continue to see.
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I was just up in Maine and we were seeing
that you know, there's a bill up there in Maine
that they're looking at about possibly making the entire state
a sanctuary city. If you do that, that sends the
message to the world, hey, come here, you'll be safe,
and that will create that criminal magnet.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Well, art, on that note, we have a governor here
in Colorado, Governor Jared Polis, who has repeatedly said that
Colorado is not a sanctuary state. Yet he continues to
sign bills, as I'm sure you are very aware of
through your work at Fair He's continued to sign bills
that make Colorado exactly what he says it isn't and
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it's a sanctuary state. In your discussions in these topics,
is Colorado one of those states that is of concern
for I mean, being a magnet for illegal immigrants, I mean,
for someone who doesn't live in this state.
Speaker 6 (24:34):
I'm so happy you brought that up. I am extremely
happy because I've been saying it too many people. There's states,
there's cities, there's counties that throat out openly state I'm
a sanctuary city, I'm a sanctuary state. But there's others
that continue to say, hey, we're not a sanctuary state,
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but they act like a sanctuary state. Those cities, those
states need do be called out. They're doing that because
they realize that they don't want to be on that
list of failed federal funding or being helped by the government.
But it's to be it's the same. That's why they
don't announce this as well. I live in Tucson, Arizona,
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and I can tell you right now this is as
close to a sanctuary state city as you can be.
But the government, the mayor says, well, we're not really
a sanctuary city. Well, you're not a centuary city, but
you have directed your police department not to contact immigration
when you detain individuals that don't have the proper documents.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
So what is the difference. Yeah, we have a bill
in Colorado that says the same thing. Oh, yeah, we're
not a sanctuary state. Oh but by the way, if
you call ICE, you're violating the law. I mean, I
don't know what makes you not a sanctuary state when
you pass that kind of stuff. Well, so the border
patrol agents, I want to get back to the border
stuff down there. So the border patrol agents are able
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to do their job now, it sounds like they've been
bolstered by some military folks, national type folks. How long
does that maintain itself? And what's the point where border
patrol says, okay, we got this now and maybe you
can turn those additional resources to go help ICE. Are
we at that point yet or what does that look
like to you?
Speaker 6 (26:13):
There are agents that have been assigned to some ICE
task forces still in their assistance, so everyone's been working
hand in hand right now. Yeah, they're trying to do
a big push on rehiring those that have left. There's
been some incentives to bring them back. So you know
how works at the end of the day. You can
have technology, you can have cameras, drones, everything you can
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throw out there, but you need the hand on boots
on the ground to make the arrest.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
So all right, I was down at the border a
couple of years ago. I've been down there several times.
As you know, McCallan, Texas is one of those places
where you had a lot of human trafficking coming through.
You know, Arizona's more for the drug trade. From one
i've seen, has all that just dried up? I mean,
what's the car how's the cartel making money now? I mean,
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what's the next effort for him?
Speaker 6 (27:08):
Well, I mean they're still making money. Obviously, they're still
bringing drugs across. You got to remember, like you have said,
the areas in Arizona have always been that narco tonnel
is what I call it, right where it's just the
drugs coming through. Arizona has a particular area that's the
Tonal Autumn nation right the Native American nation. You're looking
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at over sixty linear miles with Mexico that since they're
a sobern nation, they have laws out there that still
prevent as bad as the sanctuary city laws are on
the nation, those are worse. Yes, So there's still you know,
a good amount of drugs that are coming in through
those areas. It's a very remote area. The communication is
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very difficult for agents in that spot. Sometimes because you know,
the nation won't allowed communication towers, so it's it's very difficult.
So the drugs are still coming through. Remember they're a
billion dollar industry. They're not gonna they're not gonna fold
the tent and say, oh well, time to go do
something else for a living. Now, they're going to continue
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to push as much drugs. But you also need to
remember there's a serious power struggle going on in Mexico
right now with the cartels, so they're they're fighting a
huge there's a big cartel war going on in Mexico.
Now I have my intel and my connection is still
I grew up on the border, so I have all
this intel, right have intel do in Mexico? And they
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told me one bucks. And if you look at the
pictures from some of their reporting, there's a lot of
spending of bullets going on down there. I got you,
and they cost money. And the way they continue to
make money is because there's ways that they're still bringing
drugs into the United States.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Well, Art, I could keep you on for hours, but
unfortunately we're up against the break here. Thanks for coming
on the show with us. I know you're busy doing
all the big main all the big talk shows and whatnot,
but your time was very valuable.
Speaker 6 (29:07):
I'm doing anything I can and I will come on
your show any time you want me. Did your I
know you personally, I think very highly of you. You
do a fantastic job and you guys are in a
tough spot out there in the Colorado and you need
all the knowledge to be spread as much as possible.
I want to thank you for having me on and
to the listeners that can follow me on my Instagram
(29:28):
or on my Twitter page at the official Art and
Window page, awesome.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Thank you Art, And with that we'll go to break you.
You're listening to the Dan Caples Show here on six
point thirty k how with Well Kenny Sheriff Steve.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
Riams and now back to the Dan Tapless Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Your guest host for our final segment of the Friday
and you know I got a couple of texts came
in through the break here about our last guest. If
you weren't here to listen to it, I highly suggest
you should go out and get the podcast as soon
as it gets posted. Our last guest was Art de Queto.
He's quite a character. I've I've had a chance to
(30:09):
get to know him over the last few years, and man,
if you want to know about the border, that guy's
got the knowledge. Several of you said, hey, thanks for
having him on as a guest. How can we follow
him on social media and pretty much every social media
platform that he is on. Just look for the real
Art del Queto and it's a RT space d E
(30:30):
L space c u E t o, not a real
common last name, but Art is a he's a stud
and when it comes to border issues, he's been there,
done that, and he's definitely a person of knowledge that
can speak to a lot of different different groups. I
think tonight he was doing Newsmax Fox News and I
(30:52):
don't remember the other one he said, so squeezing us
in it was very nice of him. But if I
get a chance to host again in the future, we'll
try to get Art back on for a little longer
segment so that he can break down exactly what is
going on down there at the border. Again, you guys
can still text in. We got a few minutes before
the show ends. You can text in at five seven,
seven thirty nine. Start your text out with Dan throughout
(31:15):
the show. I've been talking about this person I'm likely
going to be forced to release from my jail. He's
been found mentally incompetent to stand trial after he was
charged with attempted second degree murder when he beat someone
very viciously in the downtown Greeley area. Not a sole incident.
He's done these types of crimes in the past, and
(31:37):
I had alluded to a video that was taken of
not only this incident, but he did another one in
the Fort Collins area, and that sparks this text I got.
He says, I'm a police officer in old town Fort
Collins and I heard you talking about the subject possibly
being released on Monday. It's unfortunate. I'm sure I know
the person. We as a downtown team frequently ask how
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things like this can happen. All Caps. Thank you for
bringing this into the light. You know it needs to
be in the light because the people who think we
don't have problems in Colorado need to see these vicious attacks.
And if this person is released from my custody, I
feel like it's my obligation as the sheriff of Weald
County to notify the public that this guy is about
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to be out on the streets. He's a danger to society.
He's a menace, and whether he's mentally incompetent by legal
standards or not, there's no way he should be walking
amongst us out there, And if he's so mentally incompetent,
it kind of speaks to the fact that he probably
can't function in society very well. I just I don't
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understand how our legislators, how our system can be so
broken that this is the solution. I mean, if it
sounds like I'm frustrated, it's because I am. This just
pisses me off. Here's another one. What you said about
these guys being let out for being incompetent to stand
trial is absolutely atrocious. Yes, please, all of you sheriffs
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need to get together and make all of this stuff
public to the people. This has to stop. Sorry, this
is so wordy. That's from the Texter, but I'm absolutely
outraged at our governor and our legislation, our legislators, and
definitely all the demon rats. That's their words, not mine,
But I don't disagree. There's just so many I don't
(33:25):
know if we can get to all of them. Here's
one fun one heard you mention Michael Brown's taxpayer relief shots,
which I agree with wholeheartedly. Will you be recording one?
And the answer to that is no, I won't be
recording one because I already did. I think it was
on today's show. I think they made it ran it
last Friday too, you know, the taxpayer relief thing. I
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always hate it when a homeowner, when a citizen is
put into a situation where they have to take the
life of someone who's committing crime against them, because that's
a decision that you hope no one ever has to
make where they have to use a fire to defend
their life. But it's just a thing that occurs, and
I would rather have the decision to make than not
be able to make it at all. And unfortunately, I
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think the person that I've been talking about who's going
to be released from my jail more than likely, I
think the only way that person's going to end up
not continuing in the system is through one of Michael
Brown's taxpayer relief shots. Yeah. I hate to say it,
but that's probably how this whole thing's going to come
to an end. I mean, it's just it's sad, it's ugly,
but so it's the state of Colorado at this point. Hey,
(34:33):
it's been a pleasure hosting here for a few days
for Dan Kaplis. I will be back on on the
ninth with Jorgey Brockler also known as George Brockler.
Speaker 5 (34:41):
Oh my goodness, and it's.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Going to be a fun time. I don't know what
we're going to do for show prep.
This is Dan Capless and welcome to today's online podcast
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
Here, I'm six point thirty k how with low kind
of Sheriff Steve Reeams as your guest host on this
wonderful Friday afternoon. I was telling Kelly before the show started,
this has got to be the longest four day week
I've ever been through in my life. It's been it's
been a busy, hectic one and it's ending with finding
out that and I may have to release a guy
that I really don't believe is safe for the public.
(00:35):
But all that being said, we're going to shift into
another gear here in the second hour, and we're going
to have a wonderful young lady on with us on
the phone here. She's running for a seat down in
the Pueblo area for House District sixty and her name
is Michelle Gray. Michelle, are you with us on the line?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
I am, well, Michelle.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
We haven't got a chance to meet in person, but
I think we're going to do so in November when
I come down to Pueblo for an event you guys
are having. But when we connected about that event, I
started doing a little research and found out, well, heck,
this lady's she's running to getting the mix down here
at the state Capitol. So if you would, Michelle, tell
us a little bit about what kind of got you
(01:19):
got you activated in politics, a little bit about your
background and why you decided to run.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Okay, well, thank you much so much, Share Frems for
having me on, and thank you for all that you're
doing in Weld County. It is clear how much you
have given to your community, and I just want to
say I appreciate that. Thank you. You're welcome. I am
a mom, I'm a teacher, and I'm a former candidate
(01:46):
for treasurer down here in Pueblo. But I'm also the
current chair of the Pueblo County Republican Party. And I
don't know if you've looked into it, but under the leadership,
this leadership, we were able to fly Pueblo read after
at least fifty years of Democrat rule. And we've done
that two years running.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Now that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
So I'm wanting it's really been a lot of fun,
and so I'm really wanting to bring that kind of
energy and that kind of change to our state capital.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
You bet. So what did you do prior to getting
into politics, Like, what was your normal life before you
got activated to say, hey, I'm going to I'm going
to take this Republican I'm going to take Pueblo and
make it a Republican stronghold.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Well, I was a teacher also for thirty years. Yeah,
And I was a teacher of mathematics in Pueblo City.
And then I retired a year after COVID. I did
the whole COVID teaching experience and went out to Fremont
County High School, where I taught there for three years.
(02:51):
And it was then that I got involved in the
caucus system and how politics actually works. And so that
is the beginning of my beginning, is getting in Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
I wanted you to tell that story because people, a
lot of people, especially those of us on the right,
have this mindset that you know, all these teachers are
just liberals and they all hate Republicans, and you're not
that person.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
I am not that person. It was actually kind of
funny because when I was running here in Pueblo County.
I had teachers walking up to me and asking me
how I could be a Republican and a teacher and so.
But there are a lot of teachers in public education
who are indeed conservative, but they are quiet. They don't
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make a lot of ruckus about it.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Well, I happened to be married to one, so I
know exactly what you're talking about. My wife's the school
teacher as well, and I don't think she's as far
of the right as I am, but I think she's
definitely a registered Republican. All right. So, having said all that,
you're looking at running for HD sixty, what area down
in the Pueblo area does that represent? You know, what's
(04:03):
the district for HD sixty. Is there someone in that
seat now or are you trying to are you trying
to overthrow someone? Or is that going to be an
open seat and you're trying to retain it as a Republican.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Okay, that's a whole lot of questions.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Sure, but you're a teacher.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
You got it, I do, I got it. And so,
actually the counties that you're looking at are Pueblo, Teller, Chafee, Custer,
and Fremont County.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Well, that's a big district.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
And it is a big district. It's only pieces of
Pueblo County, though mostly there's nine precincts out in Pueblo West,
and that's where I reside, and so that is what
you're looking at in Pueblo, although you would be looking
at Pueblo as a whole at the state Capitol. But
I am running because families are being squeezed right now
(04:54):
by all the kitchen table issues, and their concerns are real.
And when I'm out there talking to the community in
rural Colorado, they believe their voice isn't being heard, and
so they're concerned about agriculture, they're concerned about water, but
they're concerned about their way of life and they don't
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believe that they're being heard right now. And so I am.
I will say, I am the only declared candidate for
House Discard sixty, and I have called We do have
a current representative, Stephanie Luck, and I have called her
and asked her if she was going to declare, and
(05:37):
she has not decided what she wants to do. And
so I've been meeting with people, with water groups, with
elected officials and community members and they're all pretty excited
that I'm actually out and talking to them. They're actually thrilled,
and they're actually thanking me for being in attendance.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
So that's half the battle, right when you're running for
political office, so you've got to be out there so
you can talk to the voters. And it's unusual to
me how difficult that is for for a lot of
politicians to do, you know, And sometimes I think it's
I don't want to be held accountable for their votes.
As the chairwoman of the of your Republican party down there,
(06:20):
you don't. You don't have a chance to hide from
from your constituent base because you're in the middle of
making sure things work, so great place to run from.
You highlighted some of your your key issues down there.
What do you think is the thing right now that
is worrying the people in your district the most? I mean,
you mentioned water, you mentioned agricultural rights. You know, in Colorado,
(06:42):
I think we see issues with crime, we see issues
with drug abuse, with mental health issues.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Are you hearing some of that too, Oh yeah, you
have that in real Colorado. You go down so you're
going to be looking at, you know, Canyon City, Penrose,
Fremont County and those all businesses are also talking about crime.
Everything is crime written. And so one of the things
that I want to do when I'm at the Campbell
(07:08):
is to amend or repeal or do something to get
rid of our soft down crime bills.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
So I guess dovetailing to that. What do you think
about Governor pola is saying that the state of Colorado
is not a sanctuary state.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
I don't think he's a very honest person.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Well, boy, that's that's on point. So as a as
a constituent, and that that Pueblo area, do you have
people that are tired of this quote unquote non sanctuary
status that our governor says? I mean, are the people
in Pueblo tired of a legal immigration? Do they do
they want to deal with it? Is that what you're
(07:49):
hearing from your voters?
Speaker 3 (07:53):
I yeah, I'm hearing that from our voters. They're tired
of the high crime. I mean, so when you're talking
about illegal immigrants in particular, it is the ones that are,
you know, violent criminals. Those are the ones that they
don't understand why the Democrat Party wants to leave violent
criminals on the street. And not you know, deport them
(08:16):
from the United States.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Absolutely, So it's I got to read this to you
because we get texts while we have our people on
and sometimes you need a little bit of win in
your sales and instance, as Sheriff Michelle Gray is a
terrific Republican and a true fighter for our rights. We
down here are proud of her. So put that in
your put that on your resume. I mean, it's always
good to get some positive feedback. And you know, I
(08:41):
know you've got a lot of work to do before
that November deadline shows up. But if people want to
get behind you, if they want to help your campaign,
how do they do so? How do they find you
and how do they support you financially?
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Well? Right now, that's my goal currently is to find
one hundred new roots candidates a month. And that's a
big goal. If you know anything about politics, and I'm
sure you do, yes, and so they can contact me.
Actually I will read my phone number over the mail.
It's over the radio seven one nine two five two
(09:15):
six zero one one. They can call me directly. They
can also go to Gray for HD sixty dot com
in the forest spelled out fo R and then I'm
also on Facebook, Gray for HD sixty. Well, I'm on
almost all the social platforms, but that's the one that
they can go to.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Got you. Hey, good luck to you. Being a declared
candidate is tough. You're you know, you're in the spotlight,
but you're out there fighting a good fight. And everything
I've heard about you is that you are a true
hardcore Republican and that's what I like to hear. So again,
what's that website where people can find you?
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Gray for HD sixty dot com.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Well, thanks for coming on with us, and it was
a pleasure, a pleasure having you on.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Well, thank you so very much, and God bless all
the work that you are doing in Colorado.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
You bad. Thank you. That was Michelle Gray running for
HD sixty. And with that we'll go to break. You're
listening to Dan Kapla show here on six thirty k
How with Well Kenny Sheriff, Steve Riams.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
And now back to the Dan Taplas Show podcast, your.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Guest host on this great Friday. I'm so glad this
week is over. As I hinted before, it's been a
long four day week and sometimes you know that stuff
just happens you can't predict when things are going to
get a little messy. It's just it's been one of
those weeks. And apparently it was for someone else to
I have a text here, says sheriff. It was was
(10:50):
being in all caps, a long week. I'm glad I'm
not the only one, you know. I've been highlighting an
incident that happened in Weld County where we had a
refugee person in our community from another country who decided
to violently assault a citizen to the point where he
(11:11):
could have very easily killed this person. He was the suspect,
was charged with attempted second degree murder, booked into my jail,
and there's a whole host of other crimes. Come to
find out, this person's had like ten unique contacts with
law enforcement over the time that he's been in the
country here on refugee status. But the person was found
(11:33):
incompetent to stand trial and is about to be released
on Monday if things continue to go the way they
are through the Weld County criminal court system. And I
say air quotes because it doesn't seem like we have
a criminal court system anymore. But that stemmed Alexa to
ask a question. Sheriff Freemes, can Weld County Sheriffs X
account post the videos of the crime that this individual
(11:56):
is charged with, and the answer to the point answer
to that is heck yeah. If on Monday we end
up being forced to release this person, I feel an
obligation to let the public know that this is the
kind of conduct this person is capable of. So not
only will I release the video of the fight that
(12:16):
he was most recently charged with, but there's actually video
of a previous incident in I think downtown Fort Collins
where a similar thing occurred, and again this same individual
was released from custody because he was incompetent to stand trial.
So I think it's only fair for the citizens out
there to know that, hey, you've got potentially a very
(12:39):
dangerous person re entering the community, and the criminal justice
system doesn't seem to want to It doesn't seem to
have the ability to deal with it. I shouldn't say
doesn't want to. I've actually talked with my district attorney,
Michael Rourke about this specific individual. Michael came on the
radio with us. Michael Rourke came on the radio with
us and talked about this giant set of handcuffs that
have been placed on district attorneys. And you know, it's
(13:02):
unfortunate because we have liberal legislators down at the state
Capitol who push this stuff through, and we even had
some Republicans sign onto it saying, well, if a person's
incompetent to stand trial, we should just let him out
of jail. And I understand some of the you know,
some of the constitutional issues that get triggered by holding
someone that you know can't understand the gravity of their situation.
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But what compounds it with this particular individual In my
instance or in the instance that I'm referring to, he's
in general population in my jail and operating just fine.
So in my opinion, this is a this is an act,
this is a game, this is a I know how
to beat the system, and it's working. And it's unfortunate
because if this person's released, I am quite certain we
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will see a repeat of what of what has occurred.
I mean, it's it's already proven itself at least ten
times over with this individual.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
So hey, I have a question for you.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Go ahead, yeah, go ahead, What do you got.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
So are there any well I don't know if you
can actually talk about this, but were there any special
circumstances related with weapons or anything in this particular case.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
When you say special, sir, he didn't have a gun.
So I'll give you a rundown of the of the incident.
So there it makes more sense. You've got this group
of friends, male and female. They're leaving a bar in
downtown Greeley. They've had a few drinks. They're walking back
to their car, which is several blocks away from where
they were drinking and having dinner. You know, they've got
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a few few alcoholic beverages on board, but they've got
a designated driver. They're just trying to go home safely,
and they're walking through this parking lot area and they
see this group of folks kind of being a little disruptive,
and this group of individuals kind of starts, you know,
taunting the partygoers who are just trying to make their
(14:57):
way home. So, as any protect if person would do,
the eventual victim kind of puts himself between the male
and female friends that he's with and says, hey, you know,
we're just trying to go home, and he he becomes
the center of attention for these uh, these criminals are
suspected criminals, so his friends continue to make their way
(15:22):
to their car. He's trying to kind of back out
of the situation, and it escalates quickly to the point
that they square off. There's a fight about to happen,
and of course he's had a few drinks, the other
person has not, and that's never really a fair fight.
So the suspect, he gets the jump on him, beats
him pretty hard and it takes a little while before
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the thing can be stopped. The victim in this case
ends up in the hospital, ends up having to go
through rehabilitative services to be able to walk again, to
be able to talk normally. I mean, it's a it's
a pretty bad beating and it's all for nothing. I mean,
there was this guy did nothing wrong other than trying
(16:05):
to take his group of friends and get him back
to the car. But the no weapons involved other than
just absolute brutality.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
But you wouldn't say that assault with the deadly weapon
when he gets beaten to the point where he has
to have therapy and has to relearn a lot of
different So the services I hate, I hate the term
assault weapon. I really do well because anything can be
an assault.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
In this case, this guy himself was the assault weapon.
I mean, it's again, if if this all comes to head,
like I'm fearful that it will, we're going to put
the video out because I think making the media where
I think making the public aware of just how bad
these individuals are. It's it's my duty as a sheriff
to say, you know what, this can't continue to happen
(16:54):
in our in our society. And I said during the break,
I would look for the bill that israel related to
this new law that's in place that says, hey, you
got to release these these guys when they get an
incompetency evaluation. The bill is HB twenty four one zero
three four and it's probably a very dry read for
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most everybody out there, but if you do take the
time to go look at it, you're going to go, well, gosh,
hindsight being twenty twenty, this makes no sense. And practically
it's dangerous. I mean, it is extremely dangerous to think
that just because someone can get through an evaluation and
convince someone that they are quote unquote incompetent in that
(17:35):
given moment, doesn't mean they should get a free pass
to just re enter society. A couple of things here,
text messages coming in. Why can't that person be held
in a secure mental institution until he is capable of
standing trial. Well, that's a great question, because this new
law in place says no, he's incompetent. There's not really
a chance for restoration services. He had to read the
(17:58):
law to get all the details. But it's a tough deal.
And another one here does this Will this individual have
access to firearms? He shouldn't, but that doesn't mean he
won't because we all know that only the honest people
follow gun laws. Criminals don't. We get back from Bray.
Hopefully we'll have Art del Cueto on here, but he's
(18:18):
doing an interview for a few other big media outlets.
If you're listening to Dan Capless Show on six point thirty.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
K House, you're listening to the Dan Kapliss Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Caller because we have a very busy guy on the line.
His name is Art del Cueto, and Art is a
border patrol guy, and I'll let him get into the
details of his background. But he's the vice president and
spokesperson for the National Border Patrol Council, also working with
fair the Federation for American Immigration Reform as a consultant.
(18:52):
He's kind of the guy that you need to know
when you want to know things about the border.
Speaker 6 (18:56):
Art. How you doing tonight, good buddy. Hey. I want
to be clear because it just happened to me right now,
and I send out the message and I guess not
everyone has has received them or has been aware. I am.
I'm no longer with the National Border Patrol Council, Okay.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
All right, well you are.
Speaker 6 (19:15):
Yeah, I spent my position with the Council, but obviously, look,
I'm a lifelong border resident. Yes, been in law enforcement
on the border for you know, close to thirty years.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
It's I've seen.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
A lot, I've done a lot, but I'm my role,
my full time role now will be with the Federation
for American Immigration Reform. It's just it gives you opportunity
to get involved in other things at the same time.
So yeah, right, and continuing to tell people the truth,
because look, we're moving forward, and yes, we see what's
(19:48):
happening at the border, and it's more secure than it
ever has been. But that doesn't mean we need to
relax and not do nothing about it. And unfortunately, we
have way too many politicians in the US that continue
to add obstacles and prevent law enforcement from doing their job.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Well, Art, if you would, I mean, your background speaks
for itself. I know that you've been down there on
the border for a really long time under Biden, and
I've had you on the show before. But if for
the for tonight's listeners, if you would under the Biden administration,
what was the border like for that four years?
Speaker 6 (20:25):
It was picture the day after Thanksgiving at a shopping
thetter and the pictures that we would see, you know,
of all the specials and people just running, And that's
what it was. For four years. It was complete chaos.
The border was completely open. There was lawlessness. There was
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individuals that when you would arrest them, they would flat
out tell you I'm here because your president told me
I could come here and there's nothing you can do
about it. That's what we were listening to. That's what
we were seeing on our borders.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
And what's it like now.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
It's the complete opposite. Obviously, you're still going to have
those individuals that are trying to cross into the United States,
but now you have the personnel on that border to
be able to make those arrests. You have individuals that
are able that are wanting to prosecute some of these individuals.
There was an agent that was attacked, you know, at
the beginning of the year. That individual today just today
(21:25):
got prosecuted. They gave him five years for attacking a
border patrol agent that wasn't heard of before, that wasn't
heard of. You would have agents get attacked and you
would see the prosecutor will not really push a prosecution.
It was it was kind of like a not funny
joke amongst the agents where hey, if you're not bleeding,
(21:46):
don't bother calling because you're not going to prosecute anyone.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
So it was like just a cost of doing the
job for a lot of these folks.
Speaker 6 (21:53):
Correct. Yeah, And it was a free thro all and
and and you know, honestly, the cartels, they know they've
made billions of the they have better technology, they have
better intel, They don't have to worry about a budget
or a government shutdown at the end of the year. Sure,
hey buy whatever they want. They buy as much equipment
and everything else they can think of. And but now
the border is secure. Unfortunately, we need to continue the
(22:15):
work because as we've talked about it. Many individuals have
already entered the country, especially under the Biden administration. So
it's kind of like I've been talking to an individuals
that said, look, you're guarding the hen House, but unfortunately
there's a couple of wolves already living in the house.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Sure, so you've got to figure out how to get
those wolves out of here.
Speaker 6 (22:34):
Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Absolutely so. Does IYES have the resources that they need
at this point to go into the interior United States
as they're you know, attempting to do. Can they make
that push in the next four years? I mean, because
who knows what happens when when the next election cycle happens.
Do you think all those wolves can be caught in
the next well, I guess three years now.
Speaker 6 (22:55):
Right. The issue they're going to have, they're going to
continue to see and we're seeing it is you have
these things, try city policies, you have these these you know,
individuals that are in elected positions within their government. I
don't want to say leadership positions because they're far from
leaders they're just an elected positions, and they they continue
to create that magnet and say, hey.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
You can come here, you can.
Speaker 6 (23:16):
Feel safe, this is a safe space. So what that
does is that'll create that migration of the criminal elements
into those areas. And if the federal government is having
a hard time going back and forth with the local authorities,
and that's because of the people in charge of the
local authorities now allowing them to work hand in hand,
those are the problems we're going to continue to see.
(23:38):
I was just up in Maine and we were seeing
that you know, there's a bill up there in Maine
that they're looking at about possibly making the entire state
a sanctuary city. If you do that, that sends the
message to the world, hey, come here, you'll be safe,
and that will create that criminal magnet.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Well, art, on that note, we have a governor here
in Colorado, Governor Jared Polis, who has repeatedly said that
Colorado is not a sanctuary state. Yet he continues to
sign bills, as I'm sure you are very aware of
through your work at Fair He's continued to sign bills
that make Colorado exactly what he says it isn't and
(24:17):
it's a sanctuary state. In your discussions in these topics,
is Colorado one of those states that is of concern
for I mean, being a magnet for illegal immigrants, I mean,
for someone who doesn't live in this state.
Speaker 6 (24:34):
I'm so happy you brought that up. I am extremely
happy because I've been saying it too many people. There's states,
there's cities, there's counties that throat out openly state I'm
a sanctuary city, I'm a sanctuary state. But there's others
that continue to say, hey, we're not a sanctuary state,
(24:54):
but they act like a sanctuary state. Those cities, those
states need do be called out. They're doing that because
they realize that they don't want to be on that
list of failed federal funding or being helped by the government.
But it's to be it's the same. That's why they
don't announce this as well. I live in Tucson, Arizona,
(25:16):
and I can tell you right now this is as
close to a sanctuary state city as you can be.
But the government, the mayor says, well, we're not really
a sanctuary city. Well, you're not a centuary city, but
you have directed your police department not to contact immigration
when you detain individuals that don't have the proper documents.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
So what is the difference. Yeah, we have a bill
in Colorado that says the same thing. Oh, yeah, we're
not a sanctuary state. Oh but by the way, if
you call ICE, you're violating the law. I mean, I
don't know what makes you not a sanctuary state when
you pass that kind of stuff. Well, so the border
patrol agents, I want to get back to the border
stuff down there. So the border patrol agents are able
(25:55):
to do their job now, it sounds like they've been
bolstered by some military folks, national type folks. How long
does that maintain itself? And what's the point where border
patrol says, okay, we got this now and maybe you
can turn those additional resources to go help ICE. Are
we at that point yet or what does that look
like to you?
Speaker 6 (26:13):
There are agents that have been assigned to some ICE
task forces still in their assistance, so everyone's been working
hand in hand right now. Yeah, they're trying to do
a big push on rehiring those that have left. There's
been some incentives to bring them back. So you know
how works at the end of the day. You can
have technology, you can have cameras, drones, everything you can
(26:38):
throw out there, but you need the hand on boots
on the ground to make the arrest.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
So all right, I was down at the border a
couple of years ago. I've been down there several times.
As you know, McCallan, Texas is one of those places
where you had a lot of human trafficking coming through.
You know, Arizona's more for the drug trade. From one
i've seen, has all that just dried up? I mean,
what's the car how's the cartel making money now? I mean,
(27:06):
what's the next effort for him?
Speaker 6 (27:08):
Well, I mean they're still making money. Obviously, they're still
bringing drugs across. You got to remember, like you have said,
the areas in Arizona have always been that narco tonnel
is what I call it, right where it's just the
drugs coming through. Arizona has a particular area that's the
Tonal Autumn nation right the Native American nation. You're looking
(27:31):
at over sixty linear miles with Mexico that since they're
a sobern nation, they have laws out there that still
prevent as bad as the sanctuary city laws are on
the nation, those are worse. Yes, So there's still you know,
a good amount of drugs that are coming in through
those areas. It's a very remote area. The communication is
(27:54):
very difficult for agents in that spot. Sometimes because you know,
the nation won't allowed communication towers, so it's it's very difficult.
So the drugs are still coming through. Remember they're a
billion dollar industry. They're not gonna they're not gonna fold
the tent and say, oh well, time to go do
something else for a living. Now, they're going to continue
(28:15):
to push as much drugs. But you also need to
remember there's a serious power struggle going on in Mexico
right now with the cartels, so they're they're fighting a
huge there's a big cartel war going on in Mexico.
Now I have my intel and my connection is still
I grew up on the border, so I have all
this intel, right have intel do in Mexico? And they
(28:35):
told me one bucks. And if you look at the
pictures from some of their reporting, there's a lot of
spending of bullets going on down there. I got you,
and they cost money. And the way they continue to
make money is because there's ways that they're still bringing
drugs into the United States.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Well, Art, I could keep you on for hours, but
unfortunately we're up against the break here. Thanks for coming
on the show with us. I know you're busy doing
all the big main all the big talk shows and whatnot,
but your time was very valuable.
Speaker 6 (29:07):
I'm doing anything I can and I will come on
your show any time you want me. Did your I
know you personally, I think very highly of you. You
do a fantastic job and you guys are in a
tough spot out there in the Colorado and you need
all the knowledge to be spread as much as possible.
I want to thank you for having me on and
to the listeners that can follow me on my Instagram
(29:28):
or on my Twitter page at the official Art and
Window page, awesome.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Thank you Art, And with that we'll go to break you.
You're listening to the Dan Caples Show here on six
point thirty k how with Well Kenny Sheriff Steve.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
Riams and now back to the Dan Tapless Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Your guest host for our final segment of the Friday
and you know I got a couple of texts came
in through the break here about our last guest. If
you weren't here to listen to it, I highly suggest
you should go out and get the podcast as soon
as it gets posted. Our last guest was Art de Queto.
He's quite a character. I've I've had a chance to
(30:09):
get to know him over the last few years, and man,
if you want to know about the border, that guy's
got the knowledge. Several of you said, hey, thanks for
having him on as a guest. How can we follow
him on social media and pretty much every social media
platform that he is on. Just look for the real
Art del Queto and it's a RT space d E
(30:30):
L space c u E t o, not a real
common last name, but Art is a he's a stud
and when it comes to border issues, he's been there,
done that, and he's definitely a person of knowledge that
can speak to a lot of different different groups. I
think tonight he was doing Newsmax Fox News and I
(30:52):
don't remember the other one he said, so squeezing us
in it was very nice of him. But if I
get a chance to host again in the future, we'll
try to get Art back on for a little longer
segment so that he can break down exactly what is
going on down there at the border. Again, you guys
can still text in. We got a few minutes before
the show ends. You can text in at five seven,
seven thirty nine. Start your text out with Dan throughout
(31:15):
the show. I've been talking about this person I'm likely
going to be forced to release from my jail. He's
been found mentally incompetent to stand trial after he was
charged with attempted second degree murder when he beat someone
very viciously in the downtown Greeley area. Not a sole incident.
He's done these types of crimes in the past, and
(31:37):
I had alluded to a video that was taken of
not only this incident, but he did another one in
the Fort Collins area, and that sparks this text I got.
He says, I'm a police officer in old town Fort
Collins and I heard you talking about the subject possibly
being released on Monday. It's unfortunate. I'm sure I know
the person. We as a downtown team frequently ask how
(31:59):
things like this can happen. All Caps. Thank you for
bringing this into the light. You know it needs to
be in the light because the people who think we
don't have problems in Colorado need to see these vicious attacks.
And if this person is released from my custody, I
feel like it's my obligation as the sheriff of Weald
County to notify the public that this guy is about
(32:20):
to be out on the streets. He's a danger to society.
He's a menace, and whether he's mentally incompetent by legal
standards or not, there's no way he should be walking
amongst us out there, And if he's so mentally incompetent,
it kind of speaks to the fact that he probably
can't function in society very well. I just I don't
(32:41):
understand how our legislators, how our system can be so
broken that this is the solution. I mean, if it
sounds like I'm frustrated, it's because I am. This just
pisses me off. Here's another one. What you said about
these guys being let out for being incompetent to stand
trial is absolutely atrocious. Yes, please, all of you sheriffs
(33:04):
need to get together and make all of this stuff
public to the people. This has to stop. Sorry, this
is so wordy. That's from the Texter, but I'm absolutely
outraged at our governor and our legislation, our legislators, and
definitely all the demon rats. That's their words, not mine,
But I don't disagree. There's just so many I don't
(33:25):
know if we can get to all of them. Here's
one fun one heard you mention Michael Brown's taxpayer relief shots,
which I agree with wholeheartedly. Will you be recording one?
And the answer to that is no, I won't be
recording one because I already did. I think it was
on today's show. I think they made it ran it
last Friday too, you know, the taxpayer relief thing. I
(33:48):
always hate it when a homeowner, when a citizen is
put into a situation where they have to take the
life of someone who's committing crime against them, because that's
a decision that you hope no one ever has to
make where they have to use a fire to defend
their life. But it's just a thing that occurs, and
I would rather have the decision to make than not
be able to make it at all. And unfortunately, I
(34:10):
think the person that I've been talking about who's going
to be released from my jail more than likely, I
think the only way that person's going to end up
not continuing in the system is through one of Michael
Brown's taxpayer relief shots. Yeah. I hate to say it,
but that's probably how this whole thing's going to come
to an end. I mean, it's just it's sad, it's ugly,
but so it's the state of Colorado at this point. Hey,
(34:33):
it's been a pleasure hosting here for a few days
for Dan Kaplis. I will be back on on the
ninth with Jorgey Brockler also known as George Brockler.
Speaker 5 (34:41):
Oh my goodness, and it's.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Going to be a fun time. I don't know what
we're going to do for show prep.
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