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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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in some real jeopardy tonight in a way that we
haven't seen often before at all, And so it's well
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worth the conversation. And that is what's going on in Chicago.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Now.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
I still want to talk about what's going on in Denver,
because you know, Denver just had the grand opening of
Sixteenth Street used to be sixteenth Street Mall til they
paid a consult one hundred grand to change the name,
and they spend one hundred and seventy five million on it,
and then the and I'll play a little bit of
the story that KUSA did on the reopening, because Kusa,
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I think, was trying to do it right down the
middle story. But it's just so sad, and it's so
obvious that Mall by any name isn't coming back until
lefties don't rule Denver anymore. Because the lefties are pro criminal,
their pro crime, they're pro drugs, they're pro attracting more homeless,
They're pro attracting more folks in the country legally, and
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that's just going to cause most seeing people outside of
Denver to not go to Denver except for major sports teams.
That's just the reality. And I say that as a
guy who spends a lot of time in Denver. I
don't live there, but I spend a lot of time there.
I'll be there again tomorrow morning in the Court of Appeals. Yeah,
And I want Denver to succeed for all the people there,
and selfishly everybody listening to the show in Colorado. We
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have a vested interest in Denver succeed. But if you
truly love somebody or something, you show them the respect
to telling the truth. And what I just spoke is
the undeniable truth about Denver. So we're talking about that,
and then we're also talking about Chicago, where I grew
up and I grew up. My hero is the best
man in my wedding was my father, thirty year Chicago
police officer.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
He walked to talk man.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
He worked many of the toughest neighborhoods, not all of
his thirty years, but many of them, and he was
right out there in the street doing the tough stuff,
and he was the epitome of a person with integrity
and honor and courage and selflessness. And to see the
Chicago Police Department now order their officers to stand down
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and stand by as federal agents are being attacked at
times by throngs of people in the street, you know,
at other times by people directly trying to kill him
by remming cars into him. That is the opposite. That
is the opposite of the kind of Chicago police force.
I remember my dad's serving on I remember so proudly
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marching in the Saint Jude Parade.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
With him downtown when I was a little kid.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
This is the opposite of, you know, everything police forces
are supposed to stand for.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
My guess is there are many many men and women on.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
That force who were absolutely repulsed by that stand down order,
because the vast majority of people who sign up to
be cops are like my dad. They sign up to
risk their lives to serve and protect others. That's what
it says on the side of Chicago police cars, to
serve and protect. I grew up seeing that on the
side of cars for many, many years and believing it
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because for the vast majority of people who sign up
to do that job, it's true, but then you get
the political layer of leadership. And I put leadership in
quotes because they aren't cops anymore. They become politicians, just
like we've seen in Denver. You have all these brave
men and women who sign up to be Denver police officers.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Then you get the political layer.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
You've got the raw politics of a Mike Johnston right,
who obviously is pro criminal over over citizens. And then
you get the people they put big fancy uniforms and
badges on, who now are the political layer of police leadership.
And then you get all the real cops, the men
and women. Many are Democrats, some unaffiliated, some Republican, but
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the real cops who will give their lives to save others.
That's what they care about, not the politics, but the politicians.
Whether it's in Denver Chicago, they get to handcuff the
real cops, and that's how we end up in this
terrible situation, whether you're talking about Denver or magnified here
in Chicago. So that's what we're doing right now. Three
oh three seven, one, three eight, two five five the
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number I want to get you some of that sound
out of Chicago, but first a little bit of sound
out of the KUSA piece on the mall reopening.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
On Sixteenth Street in downtown Denver. Signs of the past
still remain, but today the focus was on the future.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
We're so thrilled to welcome Denver.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Back, Courtney Garrett and the Downtown Denver Partnership through a
party to officially reopen a place that's now called sixteenth
Street no mall. Yeah, that word was dropped as part
of a one hundred and seventy five million dollar makeover
to this pedestrian accessible walkway or whatever you want to
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call it, which now has new pavers, wider sidewalks, and
more places to sit, play and dance.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Somebody comes up and wants Dan wouldn't be I'll do it.
I'm a good answer, Jeff Peterson.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
See that's where the story got really sad, and they
switched to this visual of this nice guy sounds wonderful
just dancing alone on the mall, and then a few
stragglers watching him dancing alone, and it's just the picture
of the mall right now, And until they change those
things I mentioned, it's not gonna change. Then I want
to play some sound out of Chicago Texters. Dan, thank
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you for laying Michael flat on his ax X. It's
people like him to piss me off royally sorry about that.
Would you would love to see you in a courtroom
without me on the other side, of course? Lol, Dan,
I love it when you get an a heated exchange
with these lefties.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
You handled him so well. I wish I could call in,
you know, Ryan, we need to get some more lefties
on the show.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
You're welcome.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
I had the pleasure of doing a show with Craig
Silverman for years, which has a point counterpoint in that
that was just a tremendous show. We need to get
some more lefties on the show.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Can you take care of that?
Speaker 6 (06:00):
Well?
Speaker 7 (06:00):
What I will note in the example that you referenced
there is that over time it seemed to many listeners,
and I think the record will show that he kind
of came in your direction over the years.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
Craig did politically until to.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
His credit, right tremendous credit, And people say, oh, oh, Dan,
you you persuaded Craig.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
No, No, Craig came to those conclusions.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
In spite of me, not because of it. Yes, I
know that's that's a that's a credit to him. Let's
go to the phone lines. Welcome Razor to the dan
Kaplas Show. How you doing, my friend? Was that your
your name? Your god parents given name?
Speaker 8 (06:35):
NA?
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Heavy metal hair dresser? Okay, stripper you remember, remember it's.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
All coming back to me. So you're going to be
heavy metal hair dresser and a stripper.
Speaker 8 (06:47):
Oh no, it was a stripper that convinced me to.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Change Okay, okay, thank you for clarifying their raising.
Speaker 8 (06:52):
And she was that cute. She could have told me
to change my name to Mud and I probably would
have done it.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
I'm glad she didn't because razors a cool factor. Mud
that could be misunderstood.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Hold on, he's gonna cut my hair? Oh is he raising? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Fraezer has promised to cut my hair.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Good choice, good choice? Yeah, yeah, take a stab of mine.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
I wanted to give you.
Speaker 8 (07:14):
A little bit of a little bit of AMMO for
that last guy. Yeah, there is one person who admitted
that he is good on a favorable on crime. That's
our police chief. When he got up there and said
he's not going after low level crimes anymore. You know
what happens with low level crimes. They're usually turn into
high level crimes.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
From amen raise their broken windows theory, right, and remember
all those criminals they just let get away with it
over at area. Oh yeah, forget graduation for I got
all these hardworking.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Kids at school. Yeah, you want to commit crimes and
just take over? Yeah, just take over? Just insanity, right.
Speaker 8 (07:52):
It is.
Speaker 9 (07:52):
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 8 (07:53):
Next time there's a riot downtown, I'm going down to
get meeting so mace in the face and collecting fifty
thousands in our city.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
I would not recommend that, my friend, but if oh,
but help us with this because I've always had to
be absolutely fascinating profession. What's the most interesting customer encounter
you've had as a what do you call yourself a stylist?
Speaker 8 (08:18):
I'm both a barber and kylas, and I'm also an educator.
So not only cut your hair, but I can teach
you how to cut hair as well.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
But can you teach me how to cut my own?
Speaker 10 (08:27):
They?
Speaker 11 (08:28):
You know?
Speaker 9 (08:29):
Yeah, yeah, I can do that. Well, I can to
do with a.
Speaker 8 (08:32):
Mirror a pair of clippers. I think some of my
most crazy clients were when I was down on thirteenth
and downing and I get people coming into my salon
that were just so jacked up and stuff that I
ended up having to lock the doors because they come
in and I think they were normal and they turned
out to be crazy and you have to get them out.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
But since your name is Razor, it was probably easier
for you. But tell me what what do you consider
to be a good tip for people listening? What percentage?
If it is on a percentage, should you tip your
your barber slash stylist, Uh, you.
Speaker 8 (09:10):
Know in a good man's cut, five bucks if I'm
doing color and stuff like that on women, you know, anywhere.
Became twenty ten and twenty. But the sad thing is
that I'm a salon owner, so it's kind of etiquette
that you don't tip the salon owner.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
That makes no sense to me.
Speaker 8 (09:27):
Especially ause I'm losing the most spin.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
In the Yeah right right, that sounds backwards to me. Razor,
appreciate the call. Thank you, man, Lyeser jam game plan.
I'm going to come back and I hit you with
some of this sound out of Chicago, so said to me,
as the son of a Chicago cop. To hear it again,
This isn't the officer on the street. But the politician
politicians saying stand down don't help ice and great to
see this headline, President Trump sending troops to Chicago.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
You're on the Dankapla Show.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
And now back to the Dan Taplas Show podcast.
Speaker 11 (09:58):
Possibly more alarming is that when cales went out that
agents were being surrounded by protesters, a message went out
from the Chicago Police Office of Emergency Management and Communication
from the Chief of Patrol saying no units will respond
to that. Multiple police sources have confirmed the authenticity of
that message, and it's backed up by audio of the
standdown order.
Speaker 9 (10:20):
Direction have them.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
Oh wait, all right, I have the whole tight uns.
Speaker 12 (10:28):
I'll give you for the direction please and.
Speaker 10 (10:29):
Again part of the Chief of Patrol, we have all
the units that for Chief Patrol said, all units clear
out from there. We're not sending anybody over to that location.
And nine ninety nine just took him firm a thirty
ninth place in Kessie.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
They were saying that they were.
Speaker 10 (10:48):
Being surrounded by that large crowd and they were requesting
the police were not sending waving off all of the
cars heading the thirty ninth place in Kassie, Able.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
As a son of a thirty year Chicago police officer.
That just makes me sick to my stomach. I'm glad
that Trump is sending troops to Chicago, and listen, I
understand there's an underlying policy issue and a lot of
people of goodwill. You know, a lot of people who
support absolutely controlled borders as I do, and support immediately
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finding and deporting people here illegally who have committed other
crimes while here, or serious crimes in their country of origin.
There are an awful lot of people who don't want
others here illegally who aren't committing other crimes, etc.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
To be deported, right. I mean, that's a.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Legitimate policy discussion, but there's no legitimate, in my view,
policy disagreement over whether or not federal law enforcement officers
should be respected and protected while they're carrying out federal law.
Federal law allows for deportation of people here illegally. You're
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going to have citizens interfering with federal officers carrying out
federal law, then we have a problem that has to
be dealt with immediately and decisively within the bounds of
the law. If you've got city officials who are organizing
opposition to that actively, let me be more precise, actively
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trying to interfere with federal law enforcement activities. That has
to be dealt with swiftly and legally. It is not
an option to simply give up and say to a
city like Chicago or any city, Okay, we're not going
to enforce federal law here because you don't want us to.
Speaker 7 (12:37):
It.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Just it really disturbed me yesterday when I saw some
video from my old neighborhood in Chicago where Ice agents
were attempting to apprehend somebody and a large crowd from
the neighborhood gathered and interfered with them, and the person
got away. And to me, that is just so destructive
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of the rule of law. And so I'm really glad
that Trump is sending those federal troops to Chicago, and
you can you can be sure this if, if they're
at this point, is some sort of judicial stay put
on that, I think you can expect the US Supreme
Court to take that up within days, if not sooner.
Three all three someone three eight two five five the
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number text d A N five seven seven three nine.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
We're also talking, of course about the Mall one hundred.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
And seventy five million the city is spent on the
rehab of the mall and the reasons why, Unfortunately, it's
not going to work until Denver changes its underlying pro
criminal you know, pro attracting.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
More homelessness, et cetera policies.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Hey, five thirty six, pread to Horn GOP chair will
be kind enough to join us. Look forward to that conversation,
talk about some things that have been going on in
the GOP and these critical statewide races that at five
three six.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Let's go to David and what Moore you're on the
Dan Kapla show. Welcome David.
Speaker 9 (13:59):
So interesting conversation with said gentlemen earlier about the crime.
But regarding to sixteenth Street, you know, the fact that
they find a way to spend that kind of money,
I find it ridiculous. But in the end, and you
and I both know this, and I'm not sure where
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you really stand. Nothing's going to change in Colorado until
we get rid of these machines and mail in ballots.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Now, are you thinking, my friend, that if we no
longer had mail in ballots, that we'd have conservatives running Denver.
Speaker 9 (14:39):
It will take a little while to make that happen,
but I think I think we will have a fairer
chance to get the right people or legitimate people in office,
whether it's state or national, or whether it's Unfortunately, the
governor appoints the judges, and unfortunately the past two governors
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are I don't know what word I want to use.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Here, but let me ask you about this, because this
is one thing I know a little bit about having
been a trial lawyer for forty years, and I'm in
an awful lot of courts in Colorado. We have an
incredibly clean judiciary because we do not elect our judges.
So are you contending that the reason Republicans are getting
whacked in statewide races is because of judges.
Speaker 9 (15:30):
No, not because of judges. I'm continuing that people are
not getting fair trials in some situations due to the
judges that are there. Now, you you've been in the
system a long time, but some people are not having
the success you have. So you're doing a different kind
of Well.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
I do sah, I don't do criminal law. But but
all I all I can tell you David and David
and I.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Have talked before.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
David is obviously as many people, and I get it
completely strongly committed to you know, not not having mail
in ballot because there's a greater opportunity for fraud there.
David believes there there's a very large amount of fraud.
But listen, I understand that a lot of good people
just don't think we should take that risk of mail
in ballots. I understand where they're coming from, But I
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think we're diluting ourselves dangerously if we think the reason
Republicans are getting whacked in statewide races cycle after cycle,
including some really really good candidates, is.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Because of mail in ballots. It's not. There are other problems.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
There are other fundamental challenges we have we have to
be honest about if we're going to overcome those.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
So that's just where I come down on that three
h three someone three eight two five five.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
And this is not meant, you know, just as a
kiss up thing to judges, though obviously I have a
lot of respect for the judiciary. And it's not like
every judge in every case has ever ruled my way
on everything. It just doesn't work that way. But I
think we should be really glad we're not one of
those states where they elect judges, because I do think
and it's you know, a small sample size forty year
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career forty one now I guess in two weeks. But
we just have a very very clean judiciary, and in
states where they elect judges, it gets a lot messier. Dan,
Mark Sanchez, thing sounds really sad. You got any updates?
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Yeah? Ryan?
Speaker 1 (17:26):
This is so true of life, right, how just like
one moment can tip a life in the wrong direction.
Mark Sanchez. His life's going great until what moment in
time the butt fumble, right, and his life starts going
downhill to the point he now ends up stabbed and
in jail.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
But it all started with the butt fumble.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
So my advice to every young kid out there is,
don't don't run into somebody's butt fumble, fall backwards in
fumble and then hopefully was that against Denver.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Or no, no, no, but it's legendary. Don't be the
butt fumbler. Grid a Horn. Next on the Dan Capla Show.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
Today, we are signing an executive order Chicago Banks at
reining in this out of control administration. The order establishes
ice free zones. That means that city property and unwilling
private businesses will no longer serve as staging grounds for
these raids.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
You know, so incompetent, so impotent. Chicago's falling apart, right,
just like Denver's in deep decay under leftist rule. And
so now you have so many lefties in Chicago in office,
you know, trying to make their bones on interfering with
the enforcement of federal law. Just a very sad state
of affairs. You know, people can have legitimate policy differences,
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but when you take the position.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
They don't know, federal law can't be enforced.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Yeah, at that point, Trump needs to do what Trump
is doing right now, and that's sending troops to Chicago. Hey,
let's go to the VIP line. So happy to have
Bretta Horn with us. She is the GOP chair in Colorado. Bretta,
welcome back to the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
Thanks Dan, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Well, you have been a busy leader because there was
the big Central Committee meeting, right and then there was this,
I think a pretty clear division within the party over
whether to have open primaries or closed primaries, and can
you just fill us in on where that stands now?
And then I want to ask you about your take
on the state of the races.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
Oh okay, sure, but thanks for having me, and I'll
go your conversation about Chicago. I grew up in Wheaton.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, no long time the rich kids.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
Oh okay, Midwest America. Oh you're right anyway. Yeah, So
we end up having the meeting because we had to
have the meeting by state law between August fifteenth and
October first, on whether we wanted to opt out or not.
And opt out for everybody is you know, not be
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part of the primary process and just allow the assembly
or convention I mean in twenty six to in the
small areas of the districts and the counties and all
the places to have a small group of people make
the decision for one person for every seat and not
allow petitioning on and not allow any paper ballots to
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go out to the nine hundred and nine almost million
people in Colorado or even the ballots to go over
to overseas to our military that's serving for America and Colorado.
So we had that whole day of that and it
just we went through the normal routine at the beginning
and all the different pieces and all the things you
do for agenda, and then we said we can use
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the same rules as last time and minutes and all that,
and then the group just really wanted to go through
these three pieces that were tabled from them from the
meeting before they got tabled before we got to discuss them,
and wanted them before the opt out vote. So when
working with all those different pieces and all those different
things and some that came to get voted on, we
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expired our time at the location and the chief police
came and said, nope, you're done. So we didn't have
the vote, so umbnounced anybody we are. You know, there
was no vote, There was no seventy five percent of
the vote that we needed to have, and so we
are having the primary process just like we've always had
for twelve six.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Thank you for that update. And now what's that all
looking like right now? What's the state of the statewide GOP?
Speaker 4 (21:40):
I think there's so many people are so darn happy
that we held to rule of law, following the rules,
making sure we're doing right, because you're right the majority
because when we did have to do a roll call vote,
it was only forty four percent and get put even
get close to the seventy five, So we're finding out
not a majority in the room, but Colorado and are
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you know the voters that couldn't be there, they want
an opportunity to have a choice as well. I mean
they should have the opportunity like everybody else, because we
would be playing a different game than the Democrats. We're
going to be putting out ballots for everybody.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Hey and listen, I understand the sentiment of those who say, hey,
we're a party, we should get to pick our own people,
et cetera. I get that, and that's a legitimate argument.
But to me, a guy who used to be a
Democrat for years, and I think I have a valuable
perspective on what it's going to take for us to
win statewide. We've got to be expanding, not contracting. We've
got to be reaching out, not folding our arms across
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our chest. And I think so many people, you know,
don't vote for Republicans, not on the issues, but just
the old stereotypes. So the more we can, you know,
just bring people in, give them a look at who
we are and what we do, I think the better
off we're going to be, absolutely.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
And we're seeing it every day. So we're seeing it
with a younger generations generation all these different people that
I'm sadly, sadly because of probably current some murders back
on September tenth. That's like kind of our call, that's
our Republican nine to eleven in essense, the people are
coming out and droves daily through through social media, through texting,
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through friends, going on the website. So how do I
get involved? And they're all over the board, you know,
high school, college, just like I said, got some turning point.
People They're like, we where do we go? We need
to get involved. People just getting off you know, you know,
an empty masters still running for office. Even they're like,
what's that up? You know that we're just seeing all
that when they're seeing these droves come in or just
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like open up on them, come in because we need
to put points on the board to win.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Yeah, And at Britta Horn, our guest, I'm trying to
remember which cycle it is. I can't remember if it
was Obama McCain or or Obama Romney. But there was
a cycle you probably know this history where the GOP
did have a closed process and the Democrats had an
open process. And I remember going down to a church
off of Colorado for my whole precinct caucus meeting, and
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we had like twelve or thirteen of US sad sack
sitting around. The Democrats had thousands of peoples overflowing their
people pardon me, overflowing their precincts. They got the benefit
of all that energy, and we just had this kind
of isolation and I just thought, this is not the
way it's supposed to be.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
Exactly. We can't win with that anymore. You know, we
now have the state has this couple of weeks ago
crossed over that fifty percent of independence the motor voter
rules is now fifty percent of the state. I mean,
we're a little bit like half a percent above Democrats,
and then the rest are the you know, the third parties.
But really we have changed. We have got to reach
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out to all the unaffiliateds because we already had three
hundred thousand votes for US with US in twenty twenty four,
but then we had two hundred and fifty thousand active
Republicans didn't vote.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Yeah, twelve.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
And that's a big challenge for you as chair, right
because you look back at some of these last open
primaries and there's a credible argument that our nominees would
have been different if only Republicans can vote, and I
understand why that would frustrate some people. On the other hand,
isn't the whole point winning the general election? And so
I took our best chance of winning the general right,
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we have to have You're absolutely.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Right, we have to have candidates that are are you know, winnable,
can win across the aisle as well, and then, like
you said, into the independents. We have got to have
credible candidates. And we're not going to do that if
we just have a single person voted by very few people.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
And hey, I get it right because I'm a pro
life guy. That's that's my foundational starting point. And so
when we have a candidate who's great on everything else
and I'm just speaking for myself here, great on everything else,
but in my view backwards on that issue, well then
I always have the individual right as a Republican to say, hey,
I like them in every other way, and I know
he's my party's nominee, but I'm not going there. So
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you never forfeit that individual right, so correct. I respect
those who disagree, but I think a clear choice to
do it the way you're doing it. And then the
challenge becomes, hey, Colorado's a tough not how do you
win state wide?
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Right? Well, so we have a lot of things to do.
So unfortunate right away, when I went with the R
ANDC back in April and discussing how we're going to
do that, you know, we matched our plans. We're very close.
Of course, we're going to want to have offices, regional
offices in CD three, four, five, and eight. We already
have one. In five. We got the office was ship
down in Greenwood Village and we're just going to have
(26:36):
staff there. We're going to have regual directors, and we're
going to have organizers, and we're going to make sure
that we're reaching out and doing the work. Because what
I've seen for so many years dan not only here
in Colorado, but back when I worked for President Trump
in twenty twenty in New Mexico, is we're not using
the systems in place. We're not putting things in place
where we don't have to have every individual candidate knocked
(26:58):
on the first ten doors of the cup sheet and
cut sheets an area where everybody goes. Instead, we should
have the volunteers all going with the whole package, with
all our candidates obviously for the general after the primary
and hanging up and knocking on the door once and
we don't need to be talking to remember we should
talk the four out of fours. We already know they're
going to vote for every Republican. We need to find
(27:18):
the one out of fours. We're going to find the
zero out of fours and get them energizing ready to vote.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Yeah, and my belief is just candidates who defy the stereotype, right.
And we've seen some really really good candidates lose statewide
in the last few cycles. But one of the things
that keeps me really encouraged is you're seeing so many
more really attractive GOP candidates. And I know we're out
of time for today, Britta, but I hope, especially as
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we're getting deeper into the election cycle, we can get
together often and just dig deeper.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
I would love that, love the opportunity.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Hey, thank you, appreciate the time. I know you take
care of that's breda horn.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
She op the chair. Hey, we'll come back.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
We'll talk about federal troops on their way to Chicago
and one hundred and seventy five million for the mall downtown,
the rehab are you.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Going to go down there? If not, why not? You're
on the dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
And now back to the dankapless Show podcast.
Speaker 12 (28:16):
So wh an illegal alien goes to the emergency room?
Who's paying for it? The American taxpayer? The main safety
net hospital in Denver had to turn away patients due
to the massive influx of illegal immigrants into the community.
And you see health hospitals in twenty twenty four reported
their system was under stress from an increasing number of
migrants as a result.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Five point fifty two glad you're here.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Hey, we've been talking a lot about one hundred and
seventy five million to rehab the sixteen Street mall, and
then they have the grand opening, and again it's just
not going to work right until Denver changes the underlying
lefty policies that are driving it into the gutter.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
It's it's not going to change anything.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
You can't be pro crime, you can't be pro drugs,
you can't be pro recruiting as many homeless to Denver
as possible. You can't be pro recruiting as many folks
here illegally in the country to Denver as possible, and
expect people to come down to them all just isn't
going to work. Three h three someone three eight two
five five the number text d an five seven seven
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three nine text or dan. Life saving healthcare for anyone,
including illegal should be a moral principle, but at that
point they need to be deported with expedited process because
of the medical liability. Listen, hopefully we could all agree,
right if we're talking about truly life saving care, you bet,
you bet. These are children of God and there needs
to be that treatment rendered.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Now.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
The starting point needs to be full control over the border,
not because of any animist toward anybody who lives south
of the border, but just because a country has to
have control over the border. One of the greatest crimes,
not legally prosecutable, but moral crimes of any lifetime was
the Democrats at all levels, and Bennett and hickylooper as
guilty as Joe because they didn't rise up against it,
(30:02):
and Johnston was a cheerleader of it. Was deciding to
allow all these people to flow in without being vetted. Right,
because you have plenty of really good people who live
south of the border and would rather live here or
came in. But then you had a whole lot of people,
a whole lot of people, hardened criminals who the Bennetts
and Hickenloopers and Johnston's and Biden's of the world welcomed
(30:24):
into our country because the Democrats are looking for more.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Voters, because they sure us I can't get enough here.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
And that was one of the single most immoral public policy.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Things we've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
You know, you've got slavery, you've got abortion, you've got
denying the women the vote. You've got some really stunningly
immoral public policies that have existed in this nation for
a certain period of time until the goodness of this
nation overwhelmed those terrible policies and made them go away.
(30:55):
But this opening the borders without any vetting and allowing
large numbers of hardened criminals to flow in along with
with other good people. Yeah, that's profoundly immoral and obviously
nobody should enter I legally, but profoundly immoral to decide
there's not going to be any vetting. So hey, I
want to get to some of these other texts. Dan,
(31:18):
what is Bretty have to say about the lack of fundraising?
Good question, I didn't know there was that. I will
ask her next time. Uh, let's see Dan. Please don't
define somebody by one play. They're talking about my joke
about Mark Sanchez, who you know, had the butt fumble
and then his life went downhill.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
If you're not familiar with the butt fumble, he.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Was a quarterback. He ran into the behind of his
offensive lineman. Then he fumbled and the other team recovered
as he fell down. That is not what you're striving for.
Speaker 7 (31:51):
Sports can be cruel into that, Texter. I would give
two words in response to not defining a player by
one play. Bill Buckner.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Oh, that's so sad, So very sad, my friend.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
I know Dan is the only thing they changed on
the mall that buses no longer drive down there. I
don't know because I haven't been there. I'm going down
tomorrow to the Colorado Pellicourt for your hearing. I'll try
to get over the mall and check it out. But
it doesn't matter. You know, they could have right now,
short of a Tailor Swift concert.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
They could be doing.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Anything they wanted to on the mall, and they're not
going to get people to go there until they changed
that other stuff. Then I got a really good text
from somebody. Where is it Ryan asking about, hey, is
it unusual to see somebody sue this quickly? Because Mark
Sanchez is a parent victim, the truck drivers in the
hospital has sued him already, So good question from the Texter.
(32:44):
And as a guy who has the privilege of doing
these catastrophics civil cases, death cases, I.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Can tell you no.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
I can tell you in my practice, and we don't
do a volume practice, but in my practice we very
often file suit very quickly for a number of key reasons.
So many victims number one, are suing for the truth, right,
and they obviously have big damages and losses and that
has to be addressed, but they're also suing for the truth.
And the sooner that suit is filed, the sooner you
(33:13):
get the legal tools you need to drill all the
way down to the truth, and the sooner you get
some control in the case. And I as a lawyer,
as a litigator, I don't like asking for things. I
like saying, hey, we're entitled to this provided or we're
going to the courts.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
So it gives you power when you file quickly.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
It also gives you It also puts you in a
position of strength because if the other side's not willing
to do everything it should. Then you've got a court
you can go to, where a jury you can go.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
To if need be.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
So no that the quick filing of the lawsuit tells
me he's probably got good counsel.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
That doesn't mean every case is filed right away. It's
a case by.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Case determination, but those would be some of the reasons
for filing right away, right fascinating. This morning I left,
I was up to the cabin doing some work. I
left at five am to drive back. So I'm driving
up to the tunnel. I hit the perfectly dry I
come out on the east side of the tunnel. It's
like Armageddon, sheet ice, rex everywhere, truck rex, car res,
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traffic backed up for five.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Miles or so.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
And thank you Lord, thank you guardan Angel. It didn't
spin out. It was sheet ice on the other side
of the tunnel. Perfect on the west side. So prayers
for everybody who was in any of those recks. Thank
you Ryan, Thank you Kelly. Please join us tomorrow on
the Dan Kapla Show.
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in some real jeopardy tonight in a way that we
haven't seen often before at all, And so it's well
(00:21):
worth the conversation. And that is what's going on in Chicago.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Now.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
I still want to talk about what's going on in Denver,
because you know, Denver just had the grand opening of
Sixteenth Street used to be sixteenth Street Mall til they
paid a consult one hundred grand to change the name,
and they spend one hundred and seventy five million on it,
and then the and I'll play a little bit of
the story that KUSA did on the reopening, because Kusa,
(00:46):
I think, was trying to do it right down the
middle story. But it's just so sad, and it's so
obvious that Mall by any name isn't coming back until
lefties don't rule Denver anymore. Because the lefties are pro criminal,
their pro crime, they're pro drugs, they're pro attracting more homeless,
They're pro attracting more folks in the country legally, and
(01:08):
that's just going to cause most seeing people outside of
Denver to not go to Denver except for major sports teams.
That's just the reality. And I say that as a
guy who spends a lot of time in Denver. I
don't live there, but I spend a lot of time there.
I'll be there again tomorrow morning in the Court of Appeals. Yeah,
And I want Denver to succeed for all the people there,
and selfishly everybody listening to the show in Colorado. We
(01:31):
have a vested interest in Denver succeed. But if you
truly love somebody or something, you show them the respect
to telling the truth. And what I just spoke is
the undeniable truth about Denver. So we're talking about that,
and then we're also talking about Chicago, where I grew
up and I grew up. My hero is the best
man in my wedding was my father, thirty year Chicago
police officer.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
He walked to talk man.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
He worked many of the toughest neighborhoods, not all of
his thirty years, but many of them, and he was
right out there in the street doing the tough stuff,
and he was the epitome of a person with integrity
and honor and courage and selflessness. And to see the
Chicago Police Department now order their officers to stand down
(02:13):
and stand by as federal agents are being attacked at
times by throngs of people in the street, you know,
at other times by people directly trying to kill him
by remming cars into him. That is the opposite. That
is the opposite of the kind of Chicago police force.
I remember my dad's serving on I remember so proudly
(02:35):
marching in the Saint Jude Parade.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
With him downtown when I was a little kid.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
This is the opposite of, you know, everything police forces
are supposed to stand for.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
My guess is there are many many men and women on.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
That force who were absolutely repulsed by that stand down order,
because the vast majority of people who sign up to
be cops are like my dad. They sign up to
risk their lives to serve and protect others. That's what
it says on the side of Chicago police cars, to
serve and protect. I grew up seeing that on the
side of cars for many, many years and believing it
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because for the vast majority of people who sign up
to do that job, it's true, but then you get
the political layer of leadership. And I put leadership in
quotes because they aren't cops anymore. They become politicians, just
like we've seen in Denver. You have all these brave
men and women who sign up to be Denver police officers.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Then you get the political layer.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
You've got the raw politics of a Mike Johnston right,
who obviously is pro criminal over over citizens. And then
you get the people they put big fancy uniforms and
badges on, who now are the political layer of police leadership.
And then you get all the real cops, the men
and women. Many are Democrats, some unaffiliated, some Republican, but
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the real cops who will give their lives to save others.
That's what they care about, not the politics, but the politicians.
Whether it's in Denver Chicago, they get to handcuff the
real cops, and that's how we end up in this
terrible situation, whether you're talking about Denver or magnified here
in Chicago. So that's what we're doing right now. Three
oh three seven, one, three eight, two five five the
(04:10):
number I want to get you some of that sound
out of Chicago, but first a little bit of sound
out of the KUSA piece on the mall reopening.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
On Sixteenth Street in downtown Denver. Signs of the past
still remain, but today the focus was on the future.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
We're so thrilled to welcome Denver.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Back, Courtney Garrett and the Downtown Denver Partnership through a
party to officially reopen a place that's now called sixteenth
Street no mall. Yeah, that word was dropped as part
of a one hundred and seventy five million dollar makeover
to this pedestrian accessible walkway or whatever you want to
(04:52):
call it, which now has new pavers, wider sidewalks, and
more places to sit, play and dance.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Somebody comes up and wants Dan wouldn't be I'll do it.
I'm a good answer, Jeff Peterson.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
See that's where the story got really sad, and they
switched to this visual of this nice guy sounds wonderful
just dancing alone on the mall, and then a few
stragglers watching him dancing alone, and it's just the picture
of the mall right now, And until they change those
things I mentioned, it's not gonna change. Then I want
to play some sound out of Chicago Texters. Dan, thank
(05:27):
you for laying Michael flat on his ax X. It's
people like him to piss me off royally sorry about that.
Would you would love to see you in a courtroom
without me on the other side, of course? Lol, Dan,
I love it when you get an a heated exchange
with these lefties.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
You handled him so well. I wish I could call in,
you know, Ryan, we need to get some more lefties
on the show.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
You're welcome.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
I had the pleasure of doing a show with Craig
Silverman for years, which has a point counterpoint in that
that was just a tremendous show. We need to get
some more lefties on the show.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Can you take care of that?
Speaker 6 (06:00):
Well?
Speaker 7 (06:00):
What I will note in the example that you referenced
there is that over time it seemed to many listeners,
and I think the record will show that he kind
of came in your direction over the years.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
Craig did politically until to.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
His credit, right tremendous credit, And people say, oh, oh, Dan,
you you persuaded Craig.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
No, No, Craig came to those conclusions.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
In spite of me, not because of it. Yes, I
know that's that's a that's a credit to him. Let's
go to the phone lines. Welcome Razor to the dan
Kaplas Show. How you doing, my friend? Was that your
your name? Your god parents given name?
Speaker 8 (06:35):
NA?
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Heavy metal hair dresser? Okay, stripper you remember, remember it's.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
All coming back to me. So you're going to be
heavy metal hair dresser and a stripper.
Speaker 8 (06:47):
Oh no, it was a stripper that convinced me to.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Change Okay, okay, thank you for clarifying their raising.
Speaker 8 (06:52):
And she was that cute. She could have told me
to change my name to Mud and I probably would
have done it.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
I'm glad she didn't because razors a cool factor. Mud
that could be misunderstood.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Hold on, he's gonna cut my hair? Oh is he raising? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Fraezer has promised to cut my hair.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Good choice, good choice? Yeah, yeah, take a stab of mine.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
I wanted to give you.
Speaker 8 (07:14):
A little bit of a little bit of AMMO for
that last guy. Yeah, there is one person who admitted
that he is good on a favorable on crime. That's
our police chief. When he got up there and said
he's not going after low level crimes anymore. You know
what happens with low level crimes. They're usually turn into
high level crimes.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
From amen raise their broken windows theory, right, and remember
all those criminals they just let get away with it
over at area. Oh yeah, forget graduation for I got
all these hardworking.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Kids at school. Yeah, you want to commit crimes and
just take over? Yeah, just take over? Just insanity, right.
Speaker 8 (07:52):
It is.
Speaker 9 (07:52):
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 8 (07:53):
Next time there's a riot downtown, I'm going down to
get meeting so mace in the face and collecting fifty
thousands in our city.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
I would not recommend that, my friend, but if oh,
but help us with this because I've always had to
be absolutely fascinating profession. What's the most interesting customer encounter
you've had as a what do you call yourself a stylist?
Speaker 8 (08:18):
I'm both a barber and kylas, and I'm also an educator.
So not only cut your hair, but I can teach
you how to cut hair as well.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
But can you teach me how to cut my own?
Speaker 10 (08:27):
They?
Speaker 11 (08:28):
You know?
Speaker 9 (08:29):
Yeah, yeah, I can do that. Well, I can to
do with a.
Speaker 8 (08:32):
Mirror a pair of clippers. I think some of my
most crazy clients were when I was down on thirteenth
and downing and I get people coming into my salon
that were just so jacked up and stuff that I
ended up having to lock the doors because they come
in and I think they were normal and they turned
out to be crazy and you have to get them out.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
But since your name is Razor, it was probably easier
for you. But tell me what what do you consider
to be a good tip for people listening? What percentage?
If it is on a percentage, should you tip your
your barber slash stylist, Uh, you.
Speaker 8 (09:10):
Know in a good man's cut, five bucks if I'm
doing color and stuff like that on women, you know, anywhere.
Became twenty ten and twenty. But the sad thing is
that I'm a salon owner, so it's kind of etiquette
that you don't tip the salon owner.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
That makes no sense to me.
Speaker 8 (09:27):
Especially ause I'm losing the most spin.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
In the Yeah right right, that sounds backwards to me. Razor,
appreciate the call. Thank you, man, Lyeser jam game plan.
I'm going to come back and I hit you with
some of this sound out of Chicago, so said to me,
as the son of a Chicago cop. To hear it again,
This isn't the officer on the street. But the politician
politicians saying stand down don't help ice and great to
see this headline, President Trump sending troops to Chicago.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
You're on the Dankapla Show.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
And now back to the Dan Taplas Show podcast.
Speaker 11 (09:58):
Possibly more alarming is that when cales went out that
agents were being surrounded by protesters, a message went out
from the Chicago Police Office of Emergency Management and Communication
from the Chief of Patrol saying no units will respond
to that. Multiple police sources have confirmed the authenticity of
that message, and it's backed up by audio of the
standdown order.
Speaker 9 (10:20):
Direction have them.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
Oh wait, all right, I have the whole tight uns.
Speaker 12 (10:28):
I'll give you for the direction please and.
Speaker 10 (10:29):
Again part of the Chief of Patrol, we have all
the units that for Chief Patrol said, all units clear
out from there. We're not sending anybody over to that location.
And nine ninety nine just took him firm a thirty
ninth place in Kessie.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
They were saying that they were.
Speaker 10 (10:48):
Being surrounded by that large crowd and they were requesting
the police were not sending waving off all of the
cars heading the thirty ninth place in Kassie, Able.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
As a son of a thirty year Chicago police officer.
That just makes me sick to my stomach. I'm glad
that Trump is sending troops to Chicago, and listen, I
understand there's an underlying policy issue and a lot of
people of goodwill. You know, a lot of people who
support absolutely controlled borders as I do, and support immediately
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finding and deporting people here illegally who have committed other
crimes while here, or serious crimes in their country of origin.
There are an awful lot of people who don't want
others here illegally who aren't committing other crimes, etc.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
To be deported, right. I mean, that's a.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Legitimate policy discussion, but there's no legitimate, in my view,
policy disagreement over whether or not federal law enforcement officers
should be respected and protected while they're carrying out federal law.
Federal law allows for deportation of people here illegally. You're
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going to have citizens interfering with federal officers carrying out
federal law, then we have a problem that has to
be dealt with immediately and decisively within the bounds of
the law. If you've got city officials who are organizing
opposition to that actively, let me be more precise, actively
(12:21):
trying to interfere with federal law enforcement activities. That has
to be dealt with swiftly and legally. It is not
an option to simply give up and say to a
city like Chicago or any city, Okay, we're not going
to enforce federal law here because you don't want us to.
Speaker 7 (12:37):
It.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Just it really disturbed me yesterday when I saw some
video from my old neighborhood in Chicago where Ice agents
were attempting to apprehend somebody and a large crowd from
the neighborhood gathered and interfered with them, and the person
got away. And to me, that is just so destructive
(12:58):
of the rule of law. And so I'm really glad
that Trump is sending those federal troops to Chicago, and
you can you can be sure this if, if they're
at this point, is some sort of judicial stay put
on that, I think you can expect the US Supreme
Court to take that up within days, if not sooner.
Three all three someone three eight two five five the
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number text d A N five seven seven three nine.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
We're also talking, of course about the Mall one hundred.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
And seventy five million the city is spent on the
rehab of the mall and the reasons why, Unfortunately, it's
not going to work until Denver changes its underlying pro
criminal you know, pro attracting.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
More homelessness, et cetera policies.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Hey, five thirty six, pread to Horn GOP chair will
be kind enough to join us. Look forward to that conversation,
talk about some things that have been going on in
the GOP and these critical statewide races that at five
three six.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Let's go to David and what Moore you're on the
Dan Kapla show. Welcome David.
Speaker 9 (13:59):
So interesting conversation with said gentlemen earlier about the crime.
But regarding to sixteenth Street, you know, the fact that
they find a way to spend that kind of money,
I find it ridiculous. But in the end, and you
and I both know this, and I'm not sure where
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you really stand. Nothing's going to change in Colorado until
we get rid of these machines and mail in ballots.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Now, are you thinking, my friend, that if we no
longer had mail in ballots, that we'd have conservatives running Denver.
Speaker 9 (14:39):
It will take a little while to make that happen,
but I think I think we will have a fairer
chance to get the right people or legitimate people in office,
whether it's state or national, or whether it's Unfortunately, the
governor appoints the judges, and unfortunately the past two governors
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are I don't know what word I want to use.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Here, but let me ask you about this, because this
is one thing I know a little bit about having
been a trial lawyer for forty years, and I'm in
an awful lot of courts in Colorado. We have an
incredibly clean judiciary because we do not elect our judges.
So are you contending that the reason Republicans are getting
whacked in statewide races is because of judges.
Speaker 9 (15:30):
No, not because of judges. I'm continuing that people are
not getting fair trials in some situations due to the
judges that are there. Now, you you've been in the
system a long time, but some people are not having
the success you have. So you're doing a different kind
of Well.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
I do sah, I don't do criminal law. But but
all I all I can tell you David and David
and I.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Have talked before.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
David is obviously as many people, and I get it
completely strongly committed to you know, not not having mail
in ballot because there's a greater opportunity for fraud there.
David believes there there's a very large amount of fraud.
But listen, I understand that a lot of good people
just don't think we should take that risk of mail
in ballots. I understand where they're coming from, But I
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think we're diluting ourselves dangerously if we think the reason
Republicans are getting whacked in statewide races cycle after cycle,
including some really really good candidates, is.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Because of mail in ballots. It's not. There are other problems.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
There are other fundamental challenges we have we have to
be honest about if we're going to overcome those.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
So that's just where I come down on that three
h three someone three eight two five five.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
And this is not meant, you know, just as a
kiss up thing to judges, though obviously I have a
lot of respect for the judiciary. And it's not like
every judge in every case has ever ruled my way
on everything. It just doesn't work that way. But I
think we should be really glad we're not one of
those states where they elect judges, because I do think
and it's you know, a small sample size forty year
(17:07):
career forty one now I guess in two weeks. But
we just have a very very clean judiciary, and in
states where they elect judges, it gets a lot messier. Dan,
Mark Sanchez, thing sounds really sad. You got any updates?
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Yeah? Ryan?
Speaker 1 (17:26):
This is so true of life, right, how just like
one moment can tip a life in the wrong direction.
Mark Sanchez. His life's going great until what moment in
time the butt fumble, right, and his life starts going
downhill to the point he now ends up stabbed and
in jail.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
But it all started with the butt fumble.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
So my advice to every young kid out there is,
don't don't run into somebody's butt fumble, fall backwards in
fumble and then hopefully was that against Denver.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Or no, no, no, but it's legendary. Don't be the
butt fumbler. Grid a Horn. Next on the Dan Capla Show.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
Today, we are signing an executive order Chicago Banks at
reining in this out of control administration. The order establishes
ice free zones. That means that city property and unwilling
private businesses will no longer serve as staging grounds for
these raids.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
You know, so incompetent, so impotent. Chicago's falling apart, right,
just like Denver's in deep decay under leftist rule. And
so now you have so many lefties in Chicago in office,
you know, trying to make their bones on interfering with
the enforcement of federal law. Just a very sad state
of affairs. You know, people can have legitimate policy differences,
(18:55):
but when you take the position.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
They don't know, federal law can't be enforced.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Yeah, at that point, Trump needs to do what Trump
is doing right now, and that's sending troops to Chicago. Hey,
let's go to the VIP line. So happy to have
Bretta Horn with us. She is the GOP chair in Colorado. Bretta,
welcome back to the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
Thanks Dan, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Well, you have been a busy leader because there was
the big Central Committee meeting, right and then there was this,
I think a pretty clear division within the party over
whether to have open primaries or closed primaries, and can
you just fill us in on where that stands now?
And then I want to ask you about your take
on the state of the races.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
Oh okay, sure, but thanks for having me, and I'll
go your conversation about Chicago. I grew up in Wheaton.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, no long time the rich kids.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
Oh okay, Midwest America. Oh you're right anyway. Yeah, So
we end up having the meeting because we had to
have the meeting by state law between August fifteenth and
October first, on whether we wanted to opt out or not.
And opt out for everybody is you know, not be
(20:06):
part of the primary process and just allow the assembly
or convention I mean in twenty six to in the
small areas of the districts and the counties and all
the places to have a small group of people make
the decision for one person for every seat and not
allow petitioning on and not allow any paper ballots to
(20:29):
go out to the nine hundred and nine almost million
people in Colorado or even the ballots to go over
to overseas to our military that's serving for America and Colorado.
So we had that whole day of that and it
just we went through the normal routine at the beginning
and all the different pieces and all the things you
do for agenda, and then we said we can use
(20:50):
the same rules as last time and minutes and all that,
and then the group just really wanted to go through
these three pieces that were tabled from them from the
meeting before they got tabled before we got to discuss them,
and wanted them before the opt out vote. So when
working with all those different pieces and all those different
things and some that came to get voted on, we
(21:12):
expired our time at the location and the chief police
came and said, nope, you're done. So we didn't have
the vote, so umbnounced anybody we are. You know, there
was no vote, There was no seventy five percent of
the vote that we needed to have, and so we
are having the primary process just like we've always had
for twelve six.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Thank you for that update. And now what's that all
looking like right now? What's the state of the statewide GOP?
Speaker 4 (21:40):
I think there's so many people are so darn happy
that we held to rule of law, following the rules,
making sure we're doing right, because you're right the majority
because when we did have to do a roll call vote,
it was only forty four percent and get put even
get close to the seventy five, So we're finding out
not a majority in the room, but Colorado and are
(22:03):
you know the voters that couldn't be there, they want
an opportunity to have a choice as well. I mean
they should have the opportunity like everybody else, because we
would be playing a different game than the Democrats. We're
going to be putting out ballots for everybody.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Hey and listen, I understand the sentiment of those who say, hey,
we're a party, we should get to pick our own people,
et cetera. I get that, and that's a legitimate argument.
But to me, a guy who used to be a
Democrat for years, and I think I have a valuable
perspective on what it's going to take for us to
win statewide. We've got to be expanding, not contracting. We've
got to be reaching out, not folding our arms across
(22:38):
our chest. And I think so many people, you know,
don't vote for Republicans, not on the issues, but just
the old stereotypes. So the more we can, you know,
just bring people in, give them a look at who
we are and what we do, I think the better
off we're going to be, absolutely.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
And we're seeing it every day. So we're seeing it
with a younger generations generation all these different people that
I'm sadly, sadly because of probably current some murders back
on September tenth. That's like kind of our call, that's
our Republican nine to eleven in essense, the people are
coming out and droves daily through through social media, through texting,
(23:17):
through friends, going on the website. So how do I
get involved? And they're all over the board, you know,
high school, college, just like I said, got some turning point.
People They're like, we where do we go? We need
to get involved. People just getting off you know, you know,
an empty masters still running for office. Even they're like,
what's that up? You know that we're just seeing all
that when they're seeing these droves come in or just
(23:38):
like open up on them, come in because we need
to put points on the board to win.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Yeah, And at Britta Horn, our guest, I'm trying to
remember which cycle it is. I can't remember if it
was Obama McCain or or Obama Romney. But there was
a cycle you probably know this history where the GOP
did have a closed process and the Democrats had an
open process. And I remember going down to a church
off of Colorado for my whole precinct caucus meeting, and
(24:06):
we had like twelve or thirteen of US sad sack
sitting around. The Democrats had thousands of peoples overflowing their
people pardon me, overflowing their precincts. They got the benefit
of all that energy, and we just had this kind
of isolation and I just thought, this is not the
way it's supposed to be.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
Exactly. We can't win with that anymore. You know, we
now have the state has this couple of weeks ago
crossed over that fifty percent of independence the motor voter
rules is now fifty percent of the state. I mean,
we're a little bit like half a percent above Democrats,
and then the rest are the you know, the third parties.
But really we have changed. We have got to reach
(24:47):
out to all the unaffiliateds because we already had three
hundred thousand votes for US with US in twenty twenty four,
but then we had two hundred and fifty thousand active
Republicans didn't vote.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Yeah, twelve.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
And that's a big challenge for you as chair, right
because you look back at some of these last open
primaries and there's a credible argument that our nominees would
have been different if only Republicans can vote, and I
understand why that would frustrate some people. On the other hand,
isn't the whole point winning the general election? And so
I took our best chance of winning the general right,
(25:22):
we have to have You're absolutely.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Right, we have to have candidates that are are you know, winnable,
can win across the aisle as well, and then, like
you said, into the independents. We have got to have
credible candidates. And we're not going to do that if
we just have a single person voted by very few people.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
And hey, I get it right because I'm a pro
life guy. That's that's my foundational starting point. And so
when we have a candidate who's great on everything else
and I'm just speaking for myself here, great on everything else,
but in my view backwards on that issue, well then
I always have the individual right as a Republican to say, hey,
I like them in every other way, and I know
he's my party's nominee, but I'm not going there. So
(26:00):
you never forfeit that individual right, so correct. I respect
those who disagree, but I think a clear choice to
do it the way you're doing it. And then the
challenge becomes, hey, Colorado's a tough not how do you
win state wide?
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Right? Well, so we have a lot of things to do.
So unfortunate right away, when I went with the R
ANDC back in April and discussing how we're going to
do that, you know, we matched our plans. We're very close.
Of course, we're going to want to have offices, regional
offices in CD three, four, five, and eight. We already
have one. In five. We got the office was ship
down in Greenwood Village and we're just going to have
(26:36):
staff there. We're going to have regual directors, and we're
going to have organizers, and we're going to make sure
that we're reaching out and doing the work. Because what
I've seen for so many years dan not only here
in Colorado, but back when I worked for President Trump
in twenty twenty in New Mexico, is we're not using
the systems in place. We're not putting things in place
where we don't have to have every individual candidate knocked
(26:58):
on the first ten doors of the cup sheet and
cut sheets an area where everybody goes. Instead, we should
have the volunteers all going with the whole package, with
all our candidates obviously for the general after the primary
and hanging up and knocking on the door once and
we don't need to be talking to remember we should
talk the four out of fours. We already know they're
going to vote for every Republican. We need to find
(27:18):
the one out of fours. We're going to find the
zero out of fours and get them energizing ready to vote.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Yeah, and my belief is just candidates who defy the stereotype, right.
And we've seen some really really good candidates lose statewide
in the last few cycles. But one of the things
that keeps me really encouraged is you're seeing so many
more really attractive GOP candidates. And I know we're out
of time for today, Britta, but I hope, especially as
(27:46):
we're getting deeper into the election cycle, we can get
together often and just dig deeper.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
I would love that, love the opportunity.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Hey, thank you, appreciate the time. I know you take
care of that's breda horn.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
She op the chair. Hey, we'll come back.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
We'll talk about federal troops on their way to Chicago
and one hundred and seventy five million for the mall downtown,
the rehab are you.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Going to go down there? If not, why not? You're
on the dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
And now back to the dankapless Show podcast.
Speaker 12 (28:16):
So wh an illegal alien goes to the emergency room?
Who's paying for it? The American taxpayer? The main safety
net hospital in Denver had to turn away patients due
to the massive influx of illegal immigrants into the community.
And you see health hospitals in twenty twenty four reported
their system was under stress from an increasing number of
migrants as a result.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Five point fifty two glad you're here.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Hey, we've been talking a lot about one hundred and
seventy five million to rehab the sixteen Street mall, and
then they have the grand opening, and again it's just
not going to work right until Denver changes the underlying
lefty policies that are driving it into the gutter.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
It's it's not going to change anything.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
You can't be pro crime, you can't be pro drugs,
you can't be pro recruiting as many homeless to Denver
as possible. You can't be pro recruiting as many folks
here illegally in the country to Denver as possible, and
expect people to come down to them all just isn't
going to work. Three h three someone three eight two
five five the number text d an five seven seven
(29:19):
three nine text or dan. Life saving healthcare for anyone,
including illegal should be a moral principle, but at that
point they need to be deported with expedited process because
of the medical liability. Listen, hopefully we could all agree,
right if we're talking about truly life saving care, you bet,
you bet. These are children of God and there needs
to be that treatment rendered.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Now.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
The starting point needs to be full control over the border,
not because of any animist toward anybody who lives south
of the border, but just because a country has to
have control over the border. One of the greatest crimes,
not legally prosecutable, but moral crimes of any lifetime was
the Democrats at all levels, and Bennett and hickylooper as
guilty as Joe because they didn't rise up against it,
(30:02):
and Johnston was a cheerleader of it. Was deciding to
allow all these people to flow in without being vetted. Right,
because you have plenty of really good people who live
south of the border and would rather live here or
came in. But then you had a whole lot of people,
a whole lot of people, hardened criminals who the Bennetts
and Hickenloopers and Johnston's and Biden's of the world welcomed
(30:24):
into our country because the Democrats are looking for more.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Voters, because they sure us I can't get enough here.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
And that was one of the single most immoral public policy.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Things we've ever seen.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
You know, you've got slavery, you've got abortion, you've got
denying the women the vote. You've got some really stunningly
immoral public policies that have existed in this nation for
a certain period of time until the goodness of this
nation overwhelmed those terrible policies and made them go away.
(30:55):
But this opening the borders without any vetting and allowing
large numbers of hardened criminals to flow in along with
with other good people. Yeah, that's profoundly immoral and obviously
nobody should enter I legally, but profoundly immoral to decide
there's not going to be any vetting. So hey, I
want to get to some of these other texts. Dan,
(31:18):
what is Bretty have to say about the lack of fundraising?
Good question, I didn't know there was that. I will
ask her next time. Uh, let's see Dan. Please don't
define somebody by one play. They're talking about my joke
about Mark Sanchez, who you know, had the butt fumble
and then his life went downhill.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
If you're not familiar with the butt fumble, he.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Was a quarterback. He ran into the behind of his
offensive lineman. Then he fumbled and the other team recovered
as he fell down. That is not what you're striving for.
Speaker 7 (31:51):
Sports can be cruel into that, Texter. I would give
two words in response to not defining a player by
one play. Bill Buckner.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Oh, that's so sad, So very sad, my friend.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
I know Dan is the only thing they changed on
the mall that buses no longer drive down there. I
don't know because I haven't been there. I'm going down
tomorrow to the Colorado Pellicourt for your hearing. I'll try
to get over the mall and check it out. But
it doesn't matter. You know, they could have right now,
short of a Tailor Swift concert.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
They could be doing.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Anything they wanted to on the mall, and they're not
going to get people to go there until they changed
that other stuff. Then I got a really good text
from somebody. Where is it Ryan asking about, hey, is
it unusual to see somebody sue this quickly? Because Mark
Sanchez is a parent victim, the truck drivers in the
hospital has sued him already, So good question from the Texter.
(32:44):
And as a guy who has the privilege of doing
these catastrophics civil cases, death cases, I.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Can tell you no.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
I can tell you in my practice, and we don't
do a volume practice, but in my practice we very
often file suit very quickly for a number of key reasons.
So many victims number one, are suing for the truth, right,
and they obviously have big damages and losses and that
has to be addressed, but they're also suing for the truth.
And the sooner that suit is filed, the sooner you
(33:13):
get the legal tools you need to drill all the
way down to the truth, and the sooner you get
some control in the case. And I as a lawyer,
as a litigator, I don't like asking for things. I
like saying, hey, we're entitled to this provided or we're
going to the courts.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
So it gives you power when you file quickly.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
It also gives you It also puts you in a
position of strength because if the other side's not willing
to do everything it should. Then you've got a court
you can go to, where a jury you can go.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
To if need be.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
So no that the quick filing of the lawsuit tells
me he's probably got good counsel.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
That doesn't mean every case is filed right away. It's
a case by.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Case determination, but those would be some of the reasons
for filing right away, right fascinating. This morning I left,
I was up to the cabin doing some work. I
left at five am to drive back. So I'm driving
up to the tunnel. I hit the perfectly dry I
come out on the east side of the tunnel. It's
like Armageddon, sheet ice, rex everywhere, truck rex, car res,
(34:17):
traffic backed up for five.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
Miles or so.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
And thank you Lord, thank you guardan Angel. It didn't
spin out. It was sheet ice on the other side
of the tunnel. Perfect on the west side. So prayers
for everybody who was in any of those recks. Thank
you Ryan, Thank you Kelly. Please join us tomorrow on
the Dan Kapla Show.
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