Governor Jared Polis and Attorney General Phil Weiser stand firm on keeping Tina Peters behind bars, despite President Trump issuing her a pardon at the federal level. Callers react and Dan explains why the punishment doesn't fit the crime - or the criminal.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Dan Caplis, and welcome to today's online podcast
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single day on your favorite podcast platform. Has to be
one of the best feelings on Earth, right fighting for justice.
I mean, you do it probably every day in your
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life in so many different ways. This whole idea of
fighting for justice is obviously not limited to the court system.
It's in fact, the vast majority of that goes on
outside of court, just in everyday life. And all those
little injustices and big injustices out there didn't mean to
get so heavy on a Friday afternoon three oh three
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seven to one three A two five five text a
d an five seven seven three nine. And I think
I think we're also created to become angry with dishonesty,
because dishonesty is the root of almost every evil. And
so when you get people like Poliss and Wiser who
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now come out in the midst of this Tina Peters
conversation discussion issue, particularly with the President now pardoning her,
which won't of any effect at the state level. But
when they come out and say, oh no, we've got
to leave this to the courts, it's just so dishonest.
And I'm just thinking, listen, why can't you just man up,
Why can't you just man up and tell the truth.
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This isn't a matter of polis And I quoted him,
verbade him in the last hour, just wanting to follow
the court orders. Leave it to the courts. Wiser saying
the same thing. That's not what it is at all.
So just come out and be honest about it, because
we know how little respect you have for that, because
we've been talking about it. We've been talking about it
for years. The killer trucker very deliberately got back in
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his truck when he knew the breaks were overheating, his
own company was telling him not to get back in,
deliberately got back in, drove past her away truck ramp
when he was already out of control, chose to drive
into the back of stop rush hour traffic rather than
turn it into a ditch. All that stuff, And a judge,
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jury convicted, judge sentenced to one hundred years. And the
judge said, okay, I'll reconsider the sentence. I may lower
it and then Poula stepped in and took it away
from the judge because Kim Kardashian talked to him and
there was a petition out there with a lot of signatures.
Took it away from the judge. So for Polis and Wiser,
it's not about respecting the judge in court orders. It's
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about politics. It's about, you know, is the convicted a
member of the favored class or is the convicted a
political opponent? And that's just corruption, not a criminal corruption,
it's just corrupt, and it's corrupting our system. So just
come out now and say, hey, we don't like Tina Peters.
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We don't like what she says about elections, and so
we're going to leave her there to Rock. Just be
a man and step up and say that not this
dishonest garbage. Ryan, do the Rise thing if you don't mind.
I'm an old Fraser fan. But we're still having these
tech issues. Who do we have?
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Well, Number one is your good friend Warren in Colorado
Springs wanting to talk about to So he's number two.
Door Number two has Paul and Parker on Tina Peters.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
No offense, Warren, Paul, you're on the Dane Capitalist.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
You're welcome, Yeah, Darren, I'm just wanting to make a
comment on Tina Peters and the lawsuit. Yes, sir, you
have the voting records.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
My opinion on that is, you know how the federal
government is wanting to request the voting records from each state.
And I believe, just like with the Russian collusion, how
the truth came out on all that, I believe Trump's
on to something and He's going to prove that these elections.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
Have been.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Huh interesting, Paul, and listen. I have no problem at
all federal government, acting within the bounds of the law,
wanting to make sure these voter rolls are cleaned up.
I have no problem with that at all because as
I sit here right now, I believe two things. One
is Colorado elections overall are clean. I have not seen
proof to the opposite. Now, they should be perfect, and
we should never accept any level of taint, but overall,
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I think they're clean. Number Two, I don't think that
any intelligent person can have any confidence in Jenna Griswold,
and I think Griswold's hyperpartisanship and gross incompetence really all
these bios passwords you know, out on the internet. And
isn't that why she wanted Tina Peters in jail. In
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any case, Jenna Griswold has done a million times more
to undermine confidence in our elections than Tina Peters has.
And I think Tina Peters was properly charged and convicted.
I think it's an injustice now that she's going to
continue to rot in jail for a long time, given
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how you know the Left treats others, et cetera. And
at her crime, well, she should not have done that.
There was no victim, there was no ongoing harm. She's
a senior citizen, first defender, gold star mom. So police
will cut this major break. Police will step on the
neck of the judiciary, take it away from the judge
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to give a mass killing trucker an enormous sentencing break.
But just let this senior citizen rot. Yeah, now, but
that's that's who he is. Three or three seven, three
A two five five the number. And we will talk
to our friend Warren for sure. Now, one more thing
with the administration, obviously the administration now pursuing this investigation
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of the Colorado penal system. Pursuing this investigation of voter
rolls in response to the state's refusal, Polis's refusal to
do something just with Tina Peters, and I expect that
you're going to see the president now withhold certain funds
from Colorado, et cetera. So that's another thing about Polis.
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If he was defending something just that would be one
thing to resist pressure, but his willingness to subject Colorado
to a whole lot of downsides so he can just
keep Tina Peters in jail. Yeah, what does that tell you?
All Right, let's go to Warren here on the Dan
Kapli show. Welcome Warren.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Hey, Dan, I wanted to talk to you Les Friday,
but I got the other fellow text replace, I want
to know what you're thinking? Was on the course Surday.
Last Sunday was Sunday, December Seventhli. Yeah, and I always
want to know what you're thinking. Was on the conspiracy
theory that a lot of people still have in some
radio talk show host I or not too long ago.
Here also was proclaiming that he thought a lot of
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people think that deaf d are new in advance. The
Japanese are going to tack for however, and purposely because
you want to get us in the war, let it
go without telling this commanders, I don't do you go
along with that kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
I do not. I do not at all. And I
and I think that before somebody wants to label anybody,
it could be a homeless person or a president, a
mass murderer, they better bring an awful lot evidence. And
I have not seen that at all. So to me,
that's that's outrageous. And yeah, and the fact that the
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guy's DoD now, sure, that's like that. I can't defend himself,
but no, I've never seen evidence to suggest that to surprise.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Well, another subject to the three leaders in Europe Starmar
Macron and the German fellow Merts whatever they call him,
they're they're all getting together thinking Russia is the big,
big problem they're going to have when they've all got
those Uh. I don't know if you've been looking at
the internet at what's going on in UK for the
riots going on, I meanmendous, it's unbelievable, but they got
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a much bigger problems.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
And Putin, well, I would I would just agree with
you on that, my friend, because I view Putin as
satan and a threat to the civilized world and certainly
a threat to Europe, as he's proven through the raping
and pillaging of Ukraine. So I think that is a
far bigger problem.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Yeah, but well let me ask you, Dan. Honestly, all
the movement that the NATO moved east, and every time
the Russians and not just Peudent, but the Russians in
general in charge of the country, uh, complained about it
and wanted to h you know not you know, they
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so emmatically handle the problem, but we kept pushing it
down their throat.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
No, no, no, what warn't I'm starty interruptper coming up
on our break. But so what NATO has a right
to move east? And at that point, are you saying that, well,
because Putin doesn't like it, he has the right to
invade a sovereign nation. No way, no way he does.
And now NATO never invaded Russia. And just because Putin
didn't want him that close, screw him. That's no excuse
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to go rape and pillage a neighboring nation.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Would we would we allow warsaw pack to come up
on the California Arizona Mexico Texas border.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Oh I don't think, are you saying that we would
invade rape and pillage, that we would invade rape and
pillage Mexico. If what you're saying, if if the Warsaw.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
At the disagreement with US, if we wanted the Warsaw
pack to come in with them and join Warsaw, and
the Warsaw said, okay, yeah, this is went back thirty
forty years ago and be able to join the Warsaw pack,
which mean in Russian equipment could come in on our California,
New Mexico, Arizona, Texas border.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Yeah, no, I don't think at that point the response
of the US would be to invade Mexico and rape
and pillage Mexico. I don't believe. So I think the
US what I think, and Warren, I can prove it.
Here's how I can prove it, my friend. The Cuban
missile crisis. You know what the US did there was
the US used its might, and it used a diplomacy,
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and it used the carrot and stick to avoid that. Yeah. Now,
would the US eventually have gone into Cuba in this
example if Russia had not removed nukes. Yes, if you're
telling me that all of a sudden in your example
they come in and they put nuclear weapons on our
southern border. Yeah, I think the US would take military
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action there. But here I think Warren's trying to justify
Putin raping and pillaging Ukraine because Ukraine was thinking of
joining NATO.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
No.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
I don't think in any civilized world that would justify
what Russia did. Now, could and should have Biden have
prevented this, yes, but that doesn't mean Putin's any less
evil or any less of a threat. You're on the
Dan Capla Show.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
And now back to the Dan Taplas Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
I hope you're feeling really good, especially as we get
closer to Christmas. I know it doesn't feel that much
like it because of you. We just don't have the snow.
It's so warm out. Did well? We did? Yeah, But
wouldn't you feel wouldn't it be awful to say, be
in la for Christmas or somewhere really warm and Sonny
going to Michigan. Yeah, see that's yeah, and you'll have
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some snow on the ground.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
I think so maybe.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Anyway, we got a lot of calls, we got a
lot of text on this Tina Peters thing, and we
should This is a really big issue. Whether you're like
me and you believe that she was properly charged and convicted,
but that the sentence is just too severe and polists
should give her some relief right now, or you know,
you may be one of those folks who feel she
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was wrongfully convicted. I'd love to hear from somebody who
believes this sentence is appropriate. I really wonder whether there's
anybody who truly does. But we'll go back to the
phone lines calls. Also talking about the President on the
verge of a big mistake. Sorry, I'm still find off
this cold. I do pretty well until about the second
hour of the show, and then President's about to reportedly
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change marijuana. Krakawana is more accurate these days. From schedule
one to schedule three. Talk about why that would be
such a harmful mistake. In the meantime, let's go to
Paul from Parker on Tina Peters on the Dan Kaplis Show. Welcome.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
I think you got TJ not Paul.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Oh really, okay, okay, my friend. Well, if that's the
worst thing I do all day, it has been a success.
Thank you for being here.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
Yeah, you've pricked my ears a little bit when you said,
you believe these Colorado voter rules are accurate. What makes
you believe that.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
My friend, I did not. My guess is that you're
are as clogged as my nose.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
Okay, yeah, No.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
You know what I said is, I said, I'm glad
the FEDS are going in and they're looking at the
voter rolls of these states so we can make sure
they're cleared up. What I said is I believe that
overall Colorado elections are fair and honest. We can't allow
any fraud. But I've never seen any proof that Colorado
elections have any kind of large scale, outcome changing fraud.
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But maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
Okay, well I must urge you got no, that's okay,
challenge you on that. It's tough that I think that data.
I don't have any data to believe one way or
the other. So I welcome beyondit by the Feds.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
I do too, because having been a native in this
state and living in northern Colorado and recognizing how so
much things have changed, you know, it leaves me little
hope that a Republican could win a statewide election in
the future.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
But their tej is the danger to us if we're
sitting here thinking that the reason we're not winning is
because they're adjusting the vote totals from Venezuela or they're
otherwise cheating. Then we're deluding ourselves. We have got to
fix our problems and do better at you know, combating
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the Democrats at the ballot box and not you know,
just live in a state of denial that the election's
being stolen.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
Well, I don't disagree with you on that. However, I
think the Republican Party in Colorado is basically a joke.
It saddens me to say that I was fairly active
when Rodney was running, and I thought there was some
hope at that time to get Colorado back into the red.
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But it's just gotten more and more blue. It's no
longer even purple.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Well, I think the struggles of the Colorado Republican Party
are a symptom rather than a cause, because the strongest
Republican party in the world would be a great thing,
but it wouldn't be enough to win statewide in Colorado
right now. I think the reason the Republican Party has
at its ups and downs is because the Democrats very
methodically with an awful lot of money, you know, and
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change in demo. We're able to change, you know, the
electorate in this state, and the GOP hasn't figured out
how to crack it. And we've got this big division
within the GOP between roughly you know, grassroots and establishment.
I know those terms are inaccurate, and until that's healed,
just mathematically, no GOP candidate has a chance.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
And that I agree with you on. I think that
you frequently have Dick Wadhams on and I see Dick
as the establishment, and it just flores me how much
he's had his head in the sand for the last
fifteen years, well recognizing and not not just recognizing, but
not fostering the grassroots.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
My friend, I think you're fundamentally wrong on that, just
having known Dick for so many years. Dick has done
more to advanced grassroots Republicanism in Colorado than people know.
And and he doesn't fit the mold of a true
establishment guy. But in any case, he's won. And I
understand it was a while ago, but tell me who's
won more in Colorado than Dick Wadhams. Nobody can point
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to anybody.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
And that's that's where I think the data is accurate,
and that Dick hasn't won anything in a long time.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
But my question who has won more? But at least
he won.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
Was in power, So that's before Trump, at least when
Dick was winning.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Listen.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
After that, he's it's it's nothing losses.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
But Dick's point is that he believes that Colorado doesn't
like Trump, and that that on her mind's Republicans statewide.
I believe Trump is a historically great president for this nation.
I literally thank god that he has now had two terms.
But yes, I think it does make it tougher for
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Republicans in Colorado. Listen, there is a paths of victory here,
and it's not going to be easy, but it is
doable and it's just going to take. Oh man, do
you have any clean expect there? Ryan, I'll fetch you
some thank you or toilet paper. I don't need Kleenex
or sandpaper, just something.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Get to the sandpaper sound good, like high grid, like small,
gret large.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
I'm tough, doesn't matter, man, I just got to get
this stuff out of my head before the next segment.
There is a pats of victory here, and it's going
to take a really really good candidate, great organization, and
then you start to show some hope in the polling
and the money will follow. Because these Democrats are so
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bad and they're so far left, and they're so unexciting,
and they're so vulnerable, and the state's getting so much worse,
and everybody sees that. But you have so many people
I used to be a Democrat, You have so many
people who are just voting Democratic out of habit and
they've got to be sold on the GOP. It can
be done. You're on the Dan Caplis Show.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
You're listening to the Dan Kapliss Show podcast.
Speaker 6 (18:32):
Today we honor our Lady of Guadaloupe. To celebrate. Here
are seven mysteries about her tilma that scientists still can't explain.
Number One, it should have disintegrated centuries ago. Pan Diego's
tilma was made of cactus fiber, which usually lasts about
fifteen to twenty years. This one nearly five hundred years,
with no signs of decay. Number two, there are no brushstrokes, paints, pigments,
or sketching on the tilma. Some colors seem to float
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above the fibers. Number Three, it survived a bomb blast
in nineteen twenty one. A bomb exploded beneath the tilma,
destroying the altar it was on and twisting a bronze crucifix.
Yet the tilma wasn't damaged at all, literally insane. Number four,
her eyes contain microscopic reflections. Ophomologists discovered tiny human figures
in the reflection of Mary's eyes, consistent with what a
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living eye would show. Number five, the stars on her
mantle match the sky of December twelve, fifteen thirty one,
the morning of the apparition. Number six, the tilma's temperature
matches that of a human body. Tests show the surface
remains at about ninety eight point six degrees as if
it were alive. And number seven, the colors haven't faded
despite centuries of smoke, humidity, touching, and exposure. Her image
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has survived time violence. Andy kay a miracle reminding us
that God is with us, and Mary leads us to him.
Our Lady of Guadalupe pray for us.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
See that's so cool. I mean, these miracles nobody can deny.
And so yeah, it's just you know, life is so
fast and everything else. Sometimes you just got to stop
and say, wait is and we've we've got all these miracles.
That's you know, so how could there be any doubt
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here if you just dropped in, appreciate that. Talking about
mainly this afternoon, the latest with the uh Tina Peters injustice,
not the conviction, because in my view she was properly
charged and convicted, but in the length of incarceration and
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in Polis not intervening to do justice while he was
willing to intervene for the mass killing trucker. I mean,
give me a break. So we're breaking that down. Obviously,
President Trump is going to continue to press Colorado. You
can expect we're going to lose federal funds and other
advantages because police and wiser are so intent on keeping
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this senior citizen, gold star mom, who committed a crime
and was rightfully charged and convicted, but the crime didn't
have any victims, there was no violence. And yet that
the killer trucker who burned five people to death on
I seventy. Yeah, Polis is going to cut him loose
three O three seven three eight two five five takes
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DA N five seven seventh through nine. Because remember with
this trucker. Remember with this trucker, you had somebody convicted
by a jury multiple counts of homicide, sentenced by a
judge under Colorado law to one hundred years. The judge
was just about to do a sentence reconsideration when Polis
stepped in after talking to Kim Kardashian, took it away
from the judge and arbitrarily cut it to ten years,
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meaning the killer will be out in five.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
The judge was pretty peeved, as I recall you.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
As he should have been.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Was that driver, Rogelle Aguilera Maderos in legal possession of
a CDL? I thought there was some controversy as to
whether or not he should be licensed to drive at
all by the truncking company that hired him.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
I've got the affidavit for Rest weren't in front of me.
I can look that up. I thought he did have
a CDL. We've had so many who did not, you know, yeah,
we think so very many couldn't read all right, right,
But that's where the Trump administration's cracked down. We talked
about that yesterday, and almost ten thousand truckers have been
taken off the road by the Trump administration for not
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being able to read and speak English, and I mean
you're talking to a guy here. I'm sure you probably
remember that horrific case, you know, where the truck being
driven by somebody here illegally been deported many many, many times,
then just drumps all the dumps, all this pipe on
this vehicle and kills this wonderful man. I have the
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privilege of representing his wife, but I ended up taking
that individual's that not his deposition, sworn testimony in the
jail Jefferson County jail just before he was released from jail,
because the TA only prosecuted him with a misdemeanor. He
was going to get out, and fortunately we got his
deposition before he got out, and then Ice met him
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and deported him. But yeah, so many examples around the country,
and I do semi cases, you know, all over the place,
and so many examples around the country where you've got
people who cannot read English who are operating semis. You've
got some without CDL, some with CDLs, almost all working
for fly by night operations, and they commit this mass
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murder in Mayhem. It is a clear and present danger
in America. And thank god the Trump administration is cracking
down on it three out three seven three eight two
five five text d an five seven seven three nine.
But literally, now that the Trump is pardon Tina Peters
won't have any effect at the state level in Colorado
in all likelihood. But Polus comes out and he issues
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his statement saying, no, this is for the courts. He's
going to buy by court orders, and why didn't you
do that with the killer Trucker? And I want to
remind you of that, and how dishonest Polus is being here.
Here is a zoom Polus is having with the victims
of the killer trucker. Remember he, in addition to injuring
lots of people, he burned five people to death. And
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so here is Polis on with the victims, trying to
justify taking it away from the judge and cutting the
sentence the governor, cutting the sentence from one hundred to ten,
meaning the guy gets out in five. And as you
listen to this, you can just see, you can hear
how Polis is lying to these victims. They call him
on it, he doesn't even try to defend it. At
one point he just says okay, because he realized he'd
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been caught. But just his profound disrespect for these victims.
Speaker 7 (24:24):
Democratic Governor Jared Polis said that he wanted to end
the circus that was swirling around one hundred and ten
year sentence of a truck driver who killed four people
on I seventy. Governors refused to tell us about lobbying
for clemency by Hollywood stars like Kim Kardashian West, and
now we know how his meeting with the victims' families went.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Not well.
Speaker 7 (24:43):
Here's Marshall Zellinger.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
It is my hope that this gives you some closure
on this.
Speaker 8 (24:48):
It's fairly political. You're just victimizing as again.
Speaker 9 (24:53):
This is a recording provided to next Democratic Governor Jared
Polis telling survivors and victims' family members he was commuting
the sentence of I seventy truck driver Rohelle Aguilera Maderos
from one hundred and ten years to ten.
Speaker 8 (25:05):
The punishment that he receives will be what any Colorado
would normally.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Receive for this tech total lot.
Speaker 9 (25:11):
Today we received evidence from the trial videos of the
truck on I seventy ahead of the crash. Next Thursday,
the judge in the case had a hearing set to
reconsider the one hundred and ten year sentence.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Why is waiting two weeks not the right thing to do?
Speaker 5 (25:25):
Well?
Speaker 9 (25:25):
Again, I, based on our last conversation, I would have
done this last week, but I told you i'd wait
past Monday to see if the courts did anything.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
They did and they said okay.
Speaker 9 (25:34):
Families looking for an explanation got a repeated answer.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Why did you think that you should do this instead
of passing on it?
Speaker 9 (25:42):
Why is it not the.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Right thing to wait two weeks?
Speaker 10 (25:46):
I'll read that section.
Speaker 7 (25:48):
Of the paragraph.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
So then he's going to read from a stake. No, No,
that's you're oh, incredibly lame. So when you hear Paulus
now say no, it's to be left to the courts,
just Totallyye, why didn't he leave it to the courts? There?
And why intervene overrule the judge and cut a brake
for the mass killer trucker and not this senior citizen
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no prior offenses, gold star mom with no victims from
her crime, and she shouldn't have committed a crime, but
there are no victims from it. Yeah, I think the
answer is pretty obvious, and it's awful. Kurt in beautiful Pueblo, Colorado,
Here on the Dan Kapla show.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Welcome.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Thanks, I'm living the dream, my friend.
Speaker 10 (26:34):
Great, Hey, not this last election, but the election before.
My wife and I we always go physically turn in
our ballots. And at the time we were living in Broomfield.
They take mine and they go, thank you very much.
They take hers, they look at it. They look at
her because somebody heard he voted on this ballot.
Speaker 8 (26:53):
And I'm like, what what are you talking about? Turned in?
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Yeah, I go, I can't.
Speaker 8 (26:59):
It's right here. And they got two election officials over
where they're looking at it. Big interest from the Republican side,
not much interest from the Democrat side. And that was it. Yeah, well,
what do we do, Well, we can cancel them both
out and give you a new one. And that's what
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they did.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I don't I don't doubt that
a bunch of that happens, my friend. I don't doubt
that at all. I think the big question is, you know,
are Republicans losing statewide because of a very high level
of voter fraud? I don't think so. Is any voter
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fraud acceptable?
Speaker 8 (27:42):
No?
Speaker 1 (27:42):
None, not And and I appreciate your call on that.
It goes to a text we got here. How can
elections be secure in Colorado if they don't check voter
I d why won't they let ICE in near polling sites?
Great point and I talked about on this show I
posted on x You know that this bill where Bennett
and Pick and Looper are fighting to the death to
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try to prevent ICE from being able to apprehend illegal
folks at polling places. Now, why would they be doing that?
Obvious answer, you know why? Is the Democratic Party, the
open borders everything else because they see all the folks
flowing in as Democrat voters, either now or in the future.
So yeah, I don't doubt any of that. All I'm
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saying is that let's not delude ourselves into thinking that's
why we're losing these state wide races. But at the
same time, let's not accept any fraud at all. My
overart point is, and Paulus knows this is true. Jenna
Griswold has done a thousand times more to undermine confidence
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in election integrity in Colorado than Tina petersays a thousand
times more And does anybody really doubt that? As I
believe the courts will eventually find that Tina Peters sentence
is so long because she continues to maintain that elections
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were stolen. And while I disagree with her on that,
I haven't seen that proof, it's her first Amendment right
to say that. She shouldn't have a longer sentence because
of that. But you look at see it right now
on CNN. They've got a headline up in Griswold's on
Colorado governor shuts down Trump overcullte full pardon of election denier. Yeah,
so that's why they want to keep her in, not
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because that would be just or that's what the law
would support, but because she isn't willing to say that
these elections have been fair. I disagree with her on that.
I have not seen the proof the elections have been stolen,
but she has a first Amendment right to say that,
and she shouldn't stay in jail a day longer because
of that. You're on the Dame Capitlas Show, and.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Now back to the Dan Caplis Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Very deferent thing. We got to talk about that someday
because so I'm grateful to my parents for so very much,
but this idea of literally thrown kids in the d
and I mean letting them live life, letting them make
their mistakes. That's a great way to be and I
think that's very rare in the modern era. I know
that it was very hard for me and for Amy,
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you know, because you just you want to protect your
kids and everything else. But I'm very glad I grew
up when I did, and we're blessed with two kids
who just could not be better. But different challenges for
parents these days. Hey, if you just joined us, we've
been talking at length, in great detail about that Tina
Peters issue. President Trump now issuing the pardon, which will
(30:34):
not have legal effect in Colorado, but Trump making it
very clear that Colorado is going to lose a lot
if it continues to incarcerate Tina Peters. I believe she
was rightfully charged and rightfully convicted, but that the ongoing
incarceration is unjust, particularly given how Polus has treated other
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people incarcerated in this state, and so I think there
needs to be there needs to be a commutation, There
needs to be some kind of adjustment, and we'll see
where it goes from here. So we'll continue to follow
that story. I do want to get to some of
these texts before the end of the show. I know
folks have worked hard and were grateful they text Dan,
could you explain again the implications of the new tier
(31:16):
for marijuana and the newscast is very unclear. Thanks going
to devote a lot of Monday Show to that. But
in a quick nutshell, President Trump purportedly on the verge
of rescheduling marijuana from Schedule one add two a Schedule three.
And if it's a Schedule three, that doesn't mean all
of a sudden it's legal everywhere. It just means that first,
(31:37):
there's a very dangerous message that's going to be sent
to kids and others all over the nation that oh,
it really isn't that dangerous, and yeah, there are these
benefits and these true medical uses. Very very dangerous message.
We saw the disaster in Colorado when legalization had the
green light effect for so many kids in Colorado and others,
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and it's clearly a big step toward flat out legalization.
Another real harm that will come from that is that
all of a sudden, all these drug dealers who now
get toperate quote legally on the state level, we'll get
a business deduction, you know, for peddling this stuff. And
done and so just yet, It's going to be very
bad in a lot of ways, because legalized marijuana is
(32:19):
so harmful to Colorado into other states in ways you
don't hear about, because the media has a vested interest
in legal marijuana because they want to get that ad revenue. Eventually,
Dan Pola should have realized Trump, the star of the Apprentice,
made their requests this, and the President has a lot
of power, has a lot of power to benefit or
to hurt every state with funds and in other ways,
(32:40):
and police and Wiser and the rest say, hey, bring
it on and hurt Colorado any way you want to,
as long as we can keep Tana Peters in jail.
Which is pretty bizarre, right Dan, I'm so grateful the
victims called bs on pol Us back then. It's so
horrific what he did and how he lied to them.
The recording is still so important. That from Alexa, And
that is so true, Alexa. That so we played today
multiple time times. The great job done by Kusa back
(33:02):
in the day airing that video zoom of Polis with
the victims of the mass killing trucker, who police had
then intervened, took it away from the judge so he
could cut the trucker's sentenced dramatically, really really very unjust
stuff and so disrespectful to the victims. Dan Tina was
(33:23):
charged for the guy that made the backup not voter records.
The judge and allow lots of evidence. Listen to and
it goes on from there, and listen what we'll do.
We'll devote a full show at some point or at
least an hour to do in a deep dive on
both sides of the facts in that case, and and
be happy to do that. I think what people will
see in the end is that, well, I think this
(33:46):
ongoing incarc incarceration is unjust. I don't think it's even
a close call. I think she's clearly guilty of what
she's charged with. I think the point that needs to
be made is, yeah, it shouldn't have happened, but there
was no ongoing harm. And if all of a sudden
you're going to keep her in jail for nine years
because her offense let some bios passwords out, you know,
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Jenna Griswold le bios passwords out all over the state.
Now they'll say, well, Griswold did it by acident, non intentionally.
But if you're measuring harm. That's my point is there
was no harm, no ongoing harm from what Peters did.
Shouldn't have done it, but no ongoing harm. And you're
going to keep her in jail all those years. When
you intervene to cut the killer Trucker sentence from ninety
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to ten, meaning he gets out in five, and you
take it away from the judge to do that, that's
fundamentally unjust. Ryan, Thank you for your great work, my friend.
Hope everybody has a wonderful weekend. Broncos By eight on Sunday,
it's going to be a great afternoon in Colorado. Enjoy it.
You're on the Dan Capla Show.
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one of the best feelings on Earth, right fighting for justice.
I mean, you do it probably every day in your
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life in so many different ways. This whole idea of
fighting for justice is obviously not limited to the court system.
It's in fact, the vast majority of that goes on
outside of court, just in everyday life. And all those
little injustices and big injustices out there didn't mean to
get so heavy on a Friday afternoon three oh three
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seven to one three A two five five text a
d an five seven seven three nine. And I think
I think we're also created to become angry with dishonesty,
because dishonesty is the root of almost every evil. And
so when you get people like Poliss and Wiser who
(01:06):
now come out in the midst of this Tina Peters
conversation discussion issue, particularly with the President now pardoning her,
which won't of any effect at the state level. But
when they come out and say, oh no, we've got
to leave this to the courts, it's just so dishonest.
And I'm just thinking, listen, why can't you just man up,
Why can't you just man up and tell the truth.
(01:29):
This isn't a matter of polis And I quoted him,
verbade him in the last hour, just wanting to follow
the court orders. Leave it to the courts. Wiser saying
the same thing. That's not what it is at all.
So just come out and be honest about it, because
we know how little respect you have for that, because
we've been talking about it. We've been talking about it
for years. The killer trucker very deliberately got back in
(01:53):
his truck when he knew the breaks were overheating, his
own company was telling him not to get back in,
deliberately got back in, drove past her away truck ramp
when he was already out of control, chose to drive
into the back of stop rush hour traffic rather than
turn it into a ditch. All that stuff, And a judge,
(02:13):
jury convicted, judge sentenced to one hundred years. And the
judge said, okay, I'll reconsider the sentence. I may lower
it and then Poula stepped in and took it away
from the judge because Kim Kardashian talked to him and
there was a petition out there with a lot of signatures.
Took it away from the judge. So for Polis and Wiser,
it's not about respecting the judge in court orders. It's
(02:33):
about politics. It's about, you know, is the convicted a
member of the favored class or is the convicted a
political opponent? And that's just corruption, not a criminal corruption,
it's just corrupt, and it's corrupting our system. So just
come out now and say, hey, we don't like Tina Peters.
(02:54):
We don't like what she says about elections, and so
we're going to leave her there to Rock. Just be
a man and step up and say that not this
dishonest garbage. Ryan, do the Rise thing if you don't mind.
I'm an old Fraser fan. But we're still having these
tech issues. Who do we have?
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Well, Number one is your good friend Warren in Colorado
Springs wanting to talk about to So he's number two.
Door Number two has Paul and Parker on Tina Peters.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
No offense, Warren, Paul, you're on the Dane Capitalist.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
You're welcome, Yeah, Darren, I'm just wanting to make a
comment on Tina Peters and the lawsuit. Yes, sir, you
have the voting records.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
My opinion on that is, you know how the federal
government is wanting to request the voting records from each state.
And I believe, just like with the Russian collusion, how
the truth came out on all that, I believe Trump's
on to something and He's going to prove that these elections.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
Have been.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Huh interesting, Paul, and listen. I have no problem at
all federal government, acting within the bounds of the law,
wanting to make sure these voter rolls are cleaned up.
I have no problem with that at all because as
I sit here right now, I believe two things. One
is Colorado elections overall are clean. I have not seen
proof to the opposite. Now, they should be perfect, and
we should never accept any level of taint, but overall,
(04:24):
I think they're clean. Number Two, I don't think that
any intelligent person can have any confidence in Jenna Griswold,
and I think Griswold's hyperpartisanship and gross incompetence really all
these bios passwords you know, out on the internet. And
isn't that why she wanted Tina Peters in jail. In
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any case, Jenna Griswold has done a million times more
to undermine confidence in our elections than Tina Peters has.
And I think Tina Peters was properly charged and convicted.
I think it's an injustice now that she's going to
continue to rot in jail for a long time, given
(05:06):
how you know the Left treats others, et cetera. And
at her crime, well, she should not have done that.
There was no victim, there was no ongoing harm. She's
a senior citizen, first defender, gold star mom. So police
will cut this major break. Police will step on the
neck of the judiciary, take it away from the judge
(05:28):
to give a mass killing trucker an enormous sentencing break.
But just let this senior citizen rot. Yeah, now, but
that's that's who he is. Three or three seven, three
A two five five the number. And we will talk
to our friend Warren for sure. Now, one more thing
with the administration, obviously the administration now pursuing this investigation
(05:54):
of the Colorado penal system. Pursuing this investigation of voter
rolls in response to the state's refusal, Polis's refusal to
do something just with Tina Peters, and I expect that
you're going to see the president now withhold certain funds
from Colorado, et cetera. So that's another thing about Polis.
(06:14):
If he was defending something just that would be one
thing to resist pressure, but his willingness to subject Colorado
to a whole lot of downsides so he can just
keep Tina Peters in jail. Yeah, what does that tell you?
All Right, let's go to Warren here on the Dan
Kapli show. Welcome Warren.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Hey, Dan, I wanted to talk to you Les Friday,
but I got the other fellow text replace, I want
to know what you're thinking? Was on the course Surday.
Last Sunday was Sunday, December Seventhli. Yeah, and I always
want to know what you're thinking. Was on the conspiracy
theory that a lot of people still have in some
radio talk show host I or not too long ago.
Here also was proclaiming that he thought a lot of
(06:58):
people think that deaf d are new in advance. The
Japanese are going to tack for however, and purposely because
you want to get us in the war, let it
go without telling this commanders, I don't do you go
along with that kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
I do not. I do not at all. And I
and I think that before somebody wants to label anybody,
it could be a homeless person or a president, a
mass murderer, they better bring an awful lot evidence. And
I have not seen that at all. So to me,
that's that's outrageous. And yeah, and the fact that the
(07:33):
guy's DoD now, sure, that's like that. I can't defend himself,
but no, I've never seen evidence to suggest that to surprise.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
Well, another subject to the three leaders in Europe Starmar
Macron and the German fellow Merts whatever they call him,
they're they're all getting together thinking Russia is the big,
big problem they're going to have when they've all got
those Uh. I don't know if you've been looking at
the internet at what's going on in UK for the
riots going on, I meanmendous, it's unbelievable, but they got
(08:02):
a much bigger problems.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
And Putin, well, I would I would just agree with
you on that, my friend, because I view Putin as
satan and a threat to the civilized world and certainly
a threat to Europe, as he's proven through the raping
and pillaging of Ukraine. So I think that is a
far bigger problem.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Yeah, but well let me ask you, Dan. Honestly, all
the movement that the NATO moved east, and every time
the Russians and not just Peudent, but the Russians in
general in charge of the country, uh, complained about it
and wanted to h you know not you know, they
(08:42):
so emmatically handle the problem, but we kept pushing it
down their throat.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
No, no, no, what warn't I'm starty interruptper coming up
on our break. But so what NATO has a right
to move east? And at that point, are you saying that, well,
because Putin doesn't like it, he has the right to
invade a sovereign nation. No way, no way he does.
And now NATO never invaded Russia. And just because Putin
didn't want him that close, screw him. That's no excuse
(09:08):
to go rape and pillage a neighboring nation.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
Would we would we allow warsaw pack to come up
on the California Arizona Mexico Texas border.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Oh I don't think, are you saying that we would
invade rape and pillage, that we would invade rape and
pillage Mexico. If what you're saying, if if the Warsaw.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
At the disagreement with US, if we wanted the Warsaw
pack to come in with them and join Warsaw, and
the Warsaw said, okay, yeah, this is went back thirty
forty years ago and be able to join the Warsaw pack,
which mean in Russian equipment could come in on our California,
New Mexico, Arizona, Texas border.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Yeah, no, I don't think at that point the response
of the US would be to invade Mexico and rape
and pillage Mexico. I don't believe. So I think the
US what I think, and Warren, I can prove it.
Here's how I can prove it, my friend. The Cuban
missile crisis. You know what the US did there was
the US used its might, and it used a diplomacy,
(10:12):
and it used the carrot and stick to avoid that. Yeah. Now,
would the US eventually have gone into Cuba in this
example if Russia had not removed nukes. Yes, if you're
telling me that all of a sudden in your example
they come in and they put nuclear weapons on our
southern border. Yeah, I think the US would take military
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action there. But here I think Warren's trying to justify
Putin raping and pillaging Ukraine because Ukraine was thinking of
joining NATO.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
No.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
I don't think in any civilized world that would justify
what Russia did. Now, could and should have Biden have
prevented this, yes, but that doesn't mean Putin's any less
evil or any less of a threat. You're on the
Dan Capla Show.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
And now back to the Dan Taplas Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
I hope you're feeling really good, especially as we get
closer to Christmas. I know it doesn't feel that much
like it because of you. We just don't have the snow.
It's so warm out. Did well? We did? Yeah, But
wouldn't you feel wouldn't it be awful to say, be
in la for Christmas or somewhere really warm and Sonny
going to Michigan. Yeah, see that's yeah, and you'll have
(11:27):
some snow on the ground.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
I think so maybe.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Anyway, we got a lot of calls, we got a
lot of text on this Tina Peters thing, and we
should This is a really big issue. Whether you're like
me and you believe that she was properly charged and convicted,
but that the sentence is just too severe and polists
should give her some relief right now, or you know,
you may be one of those folks who feel she
(11:52):
was wrongfully convicted. I'd love to hear from somebody who
believes this sentence is appropriate. I really wonder whether there's
anybody who truly does. But we'll go back to the
phone lines calls. Also talking about the President on the
verge of a big mistake. Sorry, I'm still find off
this cold. I do pretty well until about the second
hour of the show, and then President's about to reportedly
(12:17):
change marijuana. Krakawana is more accurate these days. From schedule
one to schedule three. Talk about why that would be
such a harmful mistake. In the meantime, let's go to
Paul from Parker on Tina Peters on the Dan Kaplis Show. Welcome.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
I think you got TJ not Paul.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Oh really, okay, okay, my friend. Well, if that's the
worst thing I do all day, it has been a success.
Thank you for being here.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
Yeah, you've pricked my ears a little bit when you said,
you believe these Colorado voter rules are accurate. What makes
you believe that.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
My friend, I did not. My guess is that you're
are as clogged as my nose.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
Okay, yeah, No.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
You know what I said is, I said, I'm glad
the FEDS are going in and they're looking at the
voter rolls of these states so we can make sure
they're cleared up. What I said is I believe that
overall Colorado elections are fair and honest. We can't allow
any fraud. But I've never seen any proof that Colorado
elections have any kind of large scale, outcome changing fraud.
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But maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
Okay, well I must urge you got no, that's okay,
challenge you on that. It's tough that I think that data.
I don't have any data to believe one way or
the other. So I welcome beyondit by the Feds.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
I do too, because having been a native in this
state and living in northern Colorado and recognizing how so
much things have changed, you know, it leaves me little
hope that a Republican could win a statewide election in
the future.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
But their tej is the danger to us if we're
sitting here thinking that the reason we're not winning is
because they're adjusting the vote totals from Venezuela or they're
otherwise cheating. Then we're deluding ourselves. We have got to
fix our problems and do better at you know, combating
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the Democrats at the ballot box and not you know,
just live in a state of denial that the election's
being stolen.
Speaker 5 (14:36):
Well, I don't disagree with you on that. However, I
think the Republican Party in Colorado is basically a joke.
It saddens me to say that I was fairly active
when Rodney was running, and I thought there was some
hope at that time to get Colorado back into the red.
(14:58):
But it's just gotten more and more blue. It's no
longer even purple.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Well, I think the struggles of the Colorado Republican Party
are a symptom rather than a cause, because the strongest
Republican party in the world would be a great thing,
but it wouldn't be enough to win statewide in Colorado
right now. I think the reason the Republican Party has
at its ups and downs is because the Democrats very
methodically with an awful lot of money, you know, and
(15:25):
change in demo. We're able to change, you know, the
electorate in this state, and the GOP hasn't figured out
how to crack it. And we've got this big division
within the GOP between roughly you know, grassroots and establishment.
I know those terms are inaccurate, and until that's healed,
just mathematically, no GOP candidate has a chance.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
And that I agree with you on. I think that
you frequently have Dick Wadhams on and I see Dick
as the establishment, and it just flores me how much
he's had his head in the sand for the last
fifteen years, well recognizing and not not just recognizing, but
not fostering the grassroots.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
My friend, I think you're fundamentally wrong on that, just
having known Dick for so many years. Dick has done
more to advanced grassroots Republicanism in Colorado than people know.
And and he doesn't fit the mold of a true
establishment guy. But in any case, he's won. And I
understand it was a while ago, but tell me who's
won more in Colorado than Dick Wadhams. Nobody can point
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to anybody.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
And that's that's where I think the data is accurate,
and that Dick hasn't won anything in a long time.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
But my question who has won more? But at least
he won.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
Was in power, So that's before Trump, at least when
Dick was winning.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Listen.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
After that, he's it's it's nothing losses.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
But Dick's point is that he believes that Colorado doesn't
like Trump, and that that on her mind's Republicans statewide.
I believe Trump is a historically great president for this nation.
I literally thank god that he has now had two terms.
But yes, I think it does make it tougher for
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Republicans in Colorado. Listen, there is a paths of victory here,
and it's not going to be easy, but it is
doable and it's just going to take. Oh man, do
you have any clean expect there? Ryan, I'll fetch you
some thank you or toilet paper. I don't need Kleenex
or sandpaper, just something.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Get to the sandpaper sound good, like high grid, like small,
gret large.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
I'm tough, doesn't matter, man, I just got to get
this stuff out of my head before the next segment.
There is a pats of victory here, and it's going
to take a really really good candidate, great organization, and
then you start to show some hope in the polling
and the money will follow. Because these Democrats are so
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bad and they're so far left, and they're so unexciting,
and they're so vulnerable, and the state's getting so much worse,
and everybody sees that. But you have so many people
I used to be a Democrat, You have so many
people who are just voting Democratic out of habit and
they've got to be sold on the GOP. It can
be done. You're on the Dan Caplis Show.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
You're listening to the Dan Kapliss Show podcast.
Speaker 6 (18:32):
Today we honor our Lady of Guadaloupe. To celebrate. Here
are seven mysteries about her tilma that scientists still can't explain.
Number One, it should have disintegrated centuries ago. Pan Diego's
tilma was made of cactus fiber, which usually lasts about
fifteen to twenty years. This one nearly five hundred years,
with no signs of decay. Number two, there are no brushstrokes, paints, pigments,
or sketching on the tilma. Some colors seem to float
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above the fibers. Number Three, it survived a bomb blast
in nineteen twenty one. A bomb exploded beneath the tilma,
destroying the altar it was on and twisting a bronze crucifix.
Yet the tilma wasn't damaged at all, literally insane. Number four,
her eyes contain microscopic reflections. Ophomologists discovered tiny human figures
in the reflection of Mary's eyes, consistent with what a
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living eye would show. Number five, the stars on her
mantle match the sky of December twelve, fifteen thirty one,
the morning of the apparition. Number six, the tilma's temperature
matches that of a human body. Tests show the surface
remains at about ninety eight point six degrees as if
it were alive. And number seven, the colors haven't faded
despite centuries of smoke, humidity, touching, and exposure. Her image
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has survived time violence. Andy kay a miracle reminding us
that God is with us, and Mary leads us to him.
Our Lady of Guadalupe pray for us.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
See that's so cool. I mean, these miracles nobody can deny.
And so yeah, it's just you know, life is so
fast and everything else. Sometimes you just got to stop
and say, wait is and we've we've got all these miracles.
That's you know, so how could there be any doubt
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three three SEVENE three eight two five five text d
A N five seven seven three nine. Glad you are
here if you just dropped in, appreciate that. Talking about
mainly this afternoon, the latest with the uh Tina Peters injustice,
not the conviction, because in my view she was properly
charged and convicted, but in the length of incarceration and
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in Polis not intervening to do justice while he was
willing to intervene for the mass killing trucker. I mean,
give me a break. So we're breaking that down. Obviously,
President Trump is going to continue to press Colorado. You
can expect we're going to lose federal funds and other
advantages because police and wiser are so intent on keeping
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this senior citizen, gold star mom, who committed a crime
and was rightfully charged and convicted, but the crime didn't
have any victims, there was no violence. And yet that
the killer trucker who burned five people to death on
I seventy. Yeah, Polis is going to cut him loose
three O three seven three eight two five five takes
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DA N five seven seventh through nine. Because remember with
this trucker. Remember with this trucker, you had somebody convicted
by a jury multiple counts of homicide, sentenced by a
judge under Colorado law to one hundred years. The judge
was just about to do a sentence reconsideration when Polis
stepped in after talking to Kim Kardashian, took it away
from the judge and arbitrarily cut it to ten years,
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meaning the killer will be out in five.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
The judge was pretty peeved, as I recall you.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
As he should have been.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Was that driver, Rogelle Aguilera Maderos in legal possession of
a CDL? I thought there was some controversy as to
whether or not he should be licensed to drive at
all by the truncking company that hired him.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
I've got the affidavit for Rest weren't in front of me.
I can look that up. I thought he did have
a CDL. We've had so many who did not, you know, yeah,
we think so very many couldn't read all right, right,
But that's where the Trump administration's cracked down. We talked
about that yesterday, and almost ten thousand truckers have been
taken off the road by the Trump administration for not
(22:12):
being able to read and speak English, and I mean
you're talking to a guy here. I'm sure you probably
remember that horrific case, you know, where the truck being
driven by somebody here illegally been deported many many, many times,
then just drumps all the dumps, all this pipe on
this vehicle and kills this wonderful man. I have the
(22:33):
privilege of representing his wife, but I ended up taking
that individual's that not his deposition, sworn testimony in the
jail Jefferson County jail just before he was released from jail,
because the TA only prosecuted him with a misdemeanor. He
was going to get out, and fortunately we got his
deposition before he got out, and then Ice met him
(22:55):
and deported him. But yeah, so many examples around the country,
and I do semi cases, you know, all over the place,
and so many examples around the country where you've got
people who cannot read English who are operating semis. You've
got some without CDL, some with CDLs, almost all working
for fly by night operations, and they commit this mass
(23:15):
murder in Mayhem. It is a clear and present danger
in America. And thank god the Trump administration is cracking
down on it three out three seven three eight two
five five text d an five seven seven three nine.
But literally, now that the Trump is pardon Tina Peters
won't have any effect at the state level in Colorado
in all likelihood. But Polus comes out and he issues
(23:36):
his statement saying, no, this is for the courts. He's
going to buy by court orders, and why didn't you
do that with the killer Trucker? And I want to
remind you of that, and how dishonest Polus is being here.
Here is a zoom Polus is having with the victims
of the killer trucker. Remember he, in addition to injuring
lots of people, he burned five people to death. And
(23:56):
so here is Polis on with the victims, trying to
justify taking it away from the judge and cutting the
sentence the governor, cutting the sentence from one hundred to ten,
meaning the guy gets out in five. And as you
listen to this, you can just see, you can hear
how Polis is lying to these victims. They call him
on it, he doesn't even try to defend it. At
one point he just says okay, because he realized he'd
(24:19):
been caught. But just his profound disrespect for these victims.
Speaker 7 (24:24):
Democratic Governor Jared Polis said that he wanted to end
the circus that was swirling around one hundred and ten
year sentence of a truck driver who killed four people
on I seventy. Governors refused to tell us about lobbying
for clemency by Hollywood stars like Kim Kardashian West, and
now we know how his meeting with the victims' families went.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Not well.
Speaker 7 (24:43):
Here's Marshall Zellinger.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
It is my hope that this gives you some closure
on this.
Speaker 8 (24:48):
It's fairly political. You're just victimizing as again.
Speaker 9 (24:53):
This is a recording provided to next Democratic Governor Jared
Polis telling survivors and victims' family members he was commuting
the sentence of I seventy truck driver Rohelle Aguilera Maderos
from one hundred and ten years to ten.
Speaker 8 (25:05):
The punishment that he receives will be what any Colorado
would normally.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Receive for this tech total lot.
Speaker 9 (25:11):
Today we received evidence from the trial videos of the
truck on I seventy ahead of the crash. Next Thursday,
the judge in the case had a hearing set to
reconsider the one hundred and ten year sentence.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Why is waiting two weeks not the right thing to do?
Speaker 5 (25:25):
Well?
Speaker 9 (25:25):
Again, I, based on our last conversation, I would have
done this last week, but I told you i'd wait
past Monday to see if the courts did anything.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
They did and they said okay.
Speaker 9 (25:34):
Families looking for an explanation got a repeated answer.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Why did you think that you should do this instead
of passing on it?
Speaker 9 (25:42):
Why is it not the.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Right thing to wait two weeks?
Speaker 10 (25:46):
I'll read that section.
Speaker 7 (25:48):
Of the paragraph.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
So then he's going to read from a stake. No, No,
that's you're oh, incredibly lame. So when you hear Paulus
now say no, it's to be left to the courts,
just Totallyye, why didn't he leave it to the courts? There?
And why intervene overrule the judge and cut a brake
for the mass killer trucker and not this senior citizen
(26:10):
no prior offenses, gold star mom with no victims from
her crime, and she shouldn't have committed a crime, but
there are no victims from it. Yeah, I think the
answer is pretty obvious, and it's awful. Kurt in beautiful Pueblo, Colorado,
Here on the Dan Kapla show.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Welcome.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Thanks, I'm living the dream, my friend.
Speaker 10 (26:34):
Great, Hey, not this last election, but the election before.
My wife and I we always go physically turn in
our ballots. And at the time we were living in Broomfield.
They take mine and they go, thank you very much.
They take hers, they look at it. They look at
her because somebody heard he voted on this ballot.
Speaker 8 (26:53):
And I'm like, what what are you talking about? Turned in?
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Yeah, I go, I can't.
Speaker 8 (26:59):
It's right here. And they got two election officials over
where they're looking at it. Big interest from the Republican side,
not much interest from the Democrat side. And that was it. Yeah, well,
what do we do, Well, we can cancel them both
out and give you a new one. And that's what
(27:19):
they did.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I don't I don't doubt that
a bunch of that happens, my friend. I don't doubt
that at all. I think the big question is, you know,
are Republicans losing statewide because of a very high level
of voter fraud? I don't think so. Is any voter
(27:40):
fraud acceptable?
Speaker 8 (27:42):
No?
Speaker 1 (27:42):
None, not And and I appreciate your call on that.
It goes to a text we got here. How can
elections be secure in Colorado if they don't check voter
I d why won't they let ICE in near polling sites?
Great point and I talked about on this show I
posted on x You know that this bill where Bennett
and Pick and Looper are fighting to the death to
(28:03):
try to prevent ICE from being able to apprehend illegal
folks at polling places. Now, why would they be doing that?
Obvious answer, you know why? Is the Democratic Party, the
open borders everything else because they see all the folks
flowing in as Democrat voters, either now or in the future.
So yeah, I don't doubt any of that. All I'm
(28:24):
saying is that let's not delude ourselves into thinking that's
why we're losing these state wide races. But at the
same time, let's not accept any fraud at all. My
overart point is, and Paulus knows this is true. Jenna
Griswold has done a thousand times more to undermine confidence
(28:44):
in election integrity in Colorado than Tina petersays a thousand
times more And does anybody really doubt that? As I
believe the courts will eventually find that Tina Peters sentence
is so long because she continues to maintain that elections
(29:05):
were stolen. And while I disagree with her on that,
I haven't seen that proof, it's her first Amendment right
to say that. She shouldn't have a longer sentence because
of that. But you look at see it right now
on CNN. They've got a headline up in Griswold's on
Colorado governor shuts down Trump overcullte full pardon of election denier. Yeah,
so that's why they want to keep her in, not
(29:27):
because that would be just or that's what the law
would support, but because she isn't willing to say that
these elections have been fair. I disagree with her on that.
I have not seen the proof the elections have been stolen,
but she has a first Amendment right to say that,
and she shouldn't stay in jail a day longer because
of that. You're on the Dame Capitlas Show, and.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Now back to the Dan Caplis Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Very deferent thing. We got to talk about that someday
because so I'm grateful to my parents for so very much,
but this idea of literally thrown kids in the d
and I mean letting them live life, letting them make
their mistakes. That's a great way to be and I
think that's very rare in the modern era. I know
that it was very hard for me and for Amy,
(30:13):
you know, because you just you want to protect your
kids and everything else. But I'm very glad I grew
up when I did, and we're blessed with two kids
who just could not be better. But different challenges for
parents these days. Hey, if you just joined us, we've
been talking at length, in great detail about that Tina
Peters issue. President Trump now issuing the pardon, which will
(30:34):
not have legal effect in Colorado, but Trump making it
very clear that Colorado is going to lose a lot
if it continues to incarcerate Tina Peters. I believe she
was rightfully charged and rightfully convicted, but that the ongoing
incarceration is unjust, particularly given how Polus has treated other
(30:55):
people incarcerated in this state, and so I think there
needs to be there needs to be a commutation, There
needs to be some kind of adjustment, and we'll see
where it goes from here. So we'll continue to follow
that story. I do want to get to some of
these texts before the end of the show. I know
folks have worked hard and were grateful they text Dan,
could you explain again the implications of the new tier
(31:16):
for marijuana and the newscast is very unclear. Thanks going
to devote a lot of Monday Show to that. But
in a quick nutshell, President Trump purportedly on the verge
of rescheduling marijuana from Schedule one add two a Schedule three.
And if it's a Schedule three, that doesn't mean all
of a sudden it's legal everywhere. It just means that first,
(31:37):
there's a very dangerous message that's going to be sent
to kids and others all over the nation that oh,
it really isn't that dangerous, and yeah, there are these
benefits and these true medical uses. Very very dangerous message.
We saw the disaster in Colorado when legalization had the
green light effect for so many kids in Colorado and others,
(31:57):
and it's clearly a big step toward flat out legalization.
Another real harm that will come from that is that
all of a sudden, all these drug dealers who now
get toperate quote legally on the state level, we'll get
a business deduction, you know, for peddling this stuff. And
done and so just yet, It's going to be very
bad in a lot of ways, because legalized marijuana is
(32:19):
so harmful to Colorado into other states in ways you
don't hear about, because the media has a vested interest
in legal marijuana because they want to get that ad revenue. Eventually,
Dan Pola should have realized Trump, the star of the Apprentice,
made their requests this, and the President has a lot
of power, has a lot of power to benefit or
to hurt every state with funds and in other ways,
(32:40):
and police and Wiser and the rest say, hey, bring
it on and hurt Colorado any way you want to,
as long as we can keep Tana Peters in jail.
Which is pretty bizarre, right Dan, I'm so grateful the
victims called bs on pol Us back then. It's so
horrific what he did and how he lied to them.
The recording is still so important. That from Alexa, And
that is so true, Alexa. That so we played today
multiple time times. The great job done by Kusa back
(33:02):
in the day airing that video zoom of Polis with
the victims of the mass killing trucker, who police had
then intervened, took it away from the judge so he
could cut the trucker's sentenced dramatically, really really very unjust
stuff and so disrespectful to the victims. Dan Tina was
(33:23):
charged for the guy that made the backup not voter records.
The judge and allow lots of evidence. Listen to and
it goes on from there, and listen what we'll do.
We'll devote a full show at some point or at
least an hour to do in a deep dive on
both sides of the facts in that case, and and
be happy to do that. I think what people will
see in the end is that, well, I think this
(33:46):
ongoing incarc incarceration is unjust. I don't think it's even
a close call. I think she's clearly guilty of what
she's charged with. I think the point that needs to
be made is, yeah, it shouldn't have happened, but there
was no ongoing harm. And if all of a sudden
you're going to keep her in jail for nine years
because her offense let some bios passwords out, you know,
(34:09):
Jenna Griswold le bios passwords out all over the state.
Now they'll say, well, Griswold did it by acident, non intentionally.
But if you're measuring harm. That's my point is there
was no harm, no ongoing harm from what Peters did.
Shouldn't have done it, but no ongoing harm. And you're
going to keep her in jail all those years. When
you intervene to cut the killer Trucker sentence from ninety
(34:32):
to ten, meaning he gets out in five, and you
take it away from the judge to do that, that's
fundamentally unjust. Ryan, Thank you for your great work, my friend.
Hope everybody has a wonderful weekend. Broncos By eight on Sunday,
it's going to be a great afternoon in Colorado. Enjoy it.
You're on the Dan Capla Show.
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