September 3, 2025 • 32 mins
In the first hour of today's show, Sheriff Steve Reams continues to fill in for Dan Caplis, and is joined by Captain Matt Turner to talk about Cpt. Turner's campaign to try and replace Reams.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Dan Capless and welcome to today's online podcast
edition of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
Wellcoming Sheriff Steve Reams filling in his guest host Day
two of two. I got Zach on the board and
Kelly behind the glass trying to help me out as
we go through the show today. But you know, yesterday
we had a really fun filled show, I thought, covering
some of the gun laws stuff that was going on
in the state of Colorado and the Colorado State Shooting
Association pushing back against the state, you know, following a
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lawsuit to try to overturn Senate built three man. That
really opened up a lot of questions from you guys,
phone calls, texts, the text that we're coming in and
quite honestly, I didn't get to all of them. So
I'm going to actually try to go back and cover
some of that stuff because you know, I tell you guys,
if you text in, I'm going to try to read
it on the air and make sure that we get
an answer for you. And obviously this is an issue
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of concern because, man, like I said, text line blew
up yesterday, there's just so much confusion over some changes
in the law when it comes to concealed handgun permits,
some changes in the law when it comes to being
able to buy a firearm in the future. That's Senate
built three. You know, there's just well, to say Colorado's
a mess would be a bit of an understatement. But
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I also want to cover another topic and that's one
that's kind of fresh today with with Donald Trump, our
president kind of taking it to taking it to the
liberal governors around the well, governors and mayors around the country.
You know, he's he's got his sights set on Chicago,
but he's mentioned La, Baltimore, New York. You know obviously
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what he's doing in Washington, d C. And when when
Trump decided to federalize the National Guard and and uh,
you know, put them to work as local law enforcement
in d C. I had a little bit of trepidation because, yeah,
the optics of that sometimes are bad, but you do
realize that Washington, d C. Is is they've got a
crime problem. I mean, if you've traveled out to Washington,
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d C anytime in the past, you know, a few years.
There are just certain places you don't want to travel,
especially in the dark. And you know, I've been out
there several times doing work with the Sheriff's associations or
with the Federation of American Immigration Reform, and there's definitely
places where you just don't want to be. And that
could even be right across the street from the Capitol.
So when when President Trump decided, hey, we're going to
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clean this city up, you know, he wasn't joking. They
put a lot of troops on the ground, and you know,
the results have been dramatic, and I think trying to
replicate that in other cities is you know, an obvious
desire for this president. He wants to see law and order,
you know, brought back to our country. And as a
law and order sheriff, it's hard for me to go
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against that. I mean, why would I That's that's kind
of the thing that that Colorado is missing. So my
question to you guys are would you welcome Trump setting
his sights on Denver? Would you welcome that same kind
of And I say Denver because I think Denver is
the big problem here. You can expand that out to
some parts of Aurora. But would you welcome the president
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making that same effort of pushing federal troops, you know,
the National Guard here into the city and city and
county of Denver into parts of Aurora and say let's
clean up this mess. You know, again, I'm a little
torn on the idea of do you want to put
military figures out on the street. But I can tell
you that what we're doing right now is not working.
Crime in Colorado continues to be a problem. It is
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better than it was maybe in the twenty twenty twenty
twenty one era, but that's you know, it's comparing bad
numbers to worse numbers. So you know, I'd really like
to hear from you guys, And do you think that
Denver should be on that list along with Baltimore, Washington,
d c, LA, Chicago, New York? Is Denver next, and
should we be on that list? Should we be higher
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on that list than some of those cities? You can
text in five seven seven three nine. Start your text
with Dan again, that's five seven seven three nine, or
I prefer it if you call in three seven one
three eight two five five. I love to have the
discussion back and forth and kind of get your opinion
and ask a few questions. And at the same time,
if you got some questions about these crazy gun laws
we were discussing yesterday again, send it Bill three. Where
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you got to go take a class, Well, first you
got to go get a background, then come to the
sheriff's office, your local sheriff's office to decide, Hey, is
my background good enough to where I can go take
a class? And then once I take that class, can
I go buy a gun? Once I buy that gun,
I still wait my three day waiting period, and then
I may finally get the thing that's obviously very burdensome,
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and that applies to semi automatic weapons. Not revolvers or
bolt action rifles or pump shotguns, but semi automatic weapons,
which are the most popular weapons sold in just about
any region of the United States, especially here in Colorado.
You know, are these laws to burdensome? Should that lawsuit
from CSSA fly through the court system and overturn that thing?
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I believe it should. But again two topics I want
to know. Hey, yeah, you got questions about the gun laws.
Text Man five seven seven three nine started out with
dan or call in three h three seven one three
eight two five five. We had some great discussion yesterday.
But you know, the secondary question is would you welcome
Trump to Colorado? Would you welcome Trump and the National
Guard to Colorado to say, help us clean up this mess?
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And would you you know, would you want to see
your governor lean into that governor polus? Would you want
to see Mikey Johnston down there in Denver welcome those
troops even though he's talked about standing on the border
of the city and county armed arm with police officers
turning federal troops away. You know what would you prefer?
And if it's not Denver, is there another place in
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Colorado you want to see federal troops go? Is there
a place that we're not paying attention to? Or is
that just the epicenter of where the problems are? I
tend to believe it is. But you know what, say
you let's have that discussion. Here's the first one, Dan,
of course, that's aimed at us. Bring in the troops. Ok,
here's another one, Sheriff. Absolutely, I would support President Trump
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sending troops in to clean up the crime in our
cities in Colorado. All Right, So We got two votes
there and they're continuing to come in. We'll go to
some of the questions that we didn't get to yesterday
when it comes to the gun laws, and this one
was pretty creative. I didn't get a chance to get
to it yesterday, so we'll cover now, said sheriff. Could
law enforcement entities create citizen deputies or citizen law enforcement
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agents that would create a loophole to bypass these rules. Well,
that's really really creative. It's also not going to work,
And unfortunately, there's two reasons. We have law enforcement reform
that was passed through Senate Bill two seventeen a few
sessions ago, which puts some restrictions on law enforcement that you,
as a regular citizen, whether you're a volunteer law enforcement
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officer or not, you just don't want those things. You
actually have more rights as a regular citizen to defend
your family and yourself and your own home than a
law enforcement officer does, even when they're off duty. That
may sound crazy, but that's the truth. And on top
of that, law enforcement still has to go through the
waiting period and deal with all the mess that is
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these state laws. We don't get to bypass the three
day waiting rule, the semiotic automatic weapon. If we're buying
that for our own selves, we still have to go
through all the same process that every citizen does. The
only exception to that is if it's a weapon that
is issued by the agency. There are some provisions to
where that can be bypassed. Again, call in ask your
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questions three O three seven one three eight two five five,
or you can text in. Start your text with Dan
five seven seven thirty nine. You guys always have some
very intelligent comments and questions, and I welcome them because
that's what makes the show fun. Here's another one. Whatever
happened to the Colorado of Bureau of Investigations being contacted
to see if one is qualified to buy a firearm?
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I remember when they did that for me. Why now
the Sheriff's office is in the middle of it. I
don't get it. Well, CBI is still a part of that,
but unfortunately they're there. They don't take that. Well, say,
unfortunately you don't want them to take the point. You
don't want state police to be your your gateway to
your gun rights, as simple as that. You you're better
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off working with local law enforcement. We got to call
on the line. Let's get to this one real quick
before we go to break. We got James and Canyon City. James,
are you with us on the line, Zach, you got him?
James and Canyon City?
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Yeah, I'm here all right, James.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
What what do you got for me?
Speaker 4 (08:32):
So what I think is.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
People, well, government doesn't run efficiency efficiently and can't be
trusted on a lot of things.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
That's the very truth es actually from.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
The especially from the Democrat perspective. And I'm just wondering
if they knew that their their law is impossible to
be upheld, but they did it deliberately to put to
play to their base.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
That's a great gun law. That's a great question, James.
We're close to a break, so I'll answer this and
then we'll go to a break. I don't think the
Democrats care how much they how much burden they put
on you. Their whole goal is to make it as
difficult as possible for you to access a firearm. And
if that's through bureaucracy, fine, if that's through a multitude
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of steps, fine. They don't really care about whether or
not they're in my opinion, they don't really care how
close they are adhering to the Constitution. Their whole job
is to create a level of burden and a level
of steps that just become so onerous that you'll decide
it's not worth it. I don't want to go do this.
I don't want to go buy a gun. I don't
want to try to exercise my Second Amendment rights. And
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you know, truth told, if you could get one of
them in a private booth and ask them to be
completely honest with you, I think that's what they would say. Uh,
we're going to cut to a break because we got to.
We got to make sure we pay the pay the
station here with our with our commercials. But when we
come back, we'll have sheriff's candidate on out of welld County.
His name is Matt Turner. He's running to replace me.
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But Tim from Fort Collins, I know you're on the line.
We'll get to you as soon as we can. If
you want to stick there and we'll go to break.
You listen to the Dan Caplas Show here with well
County Sheriff Steve Reims as your guest host.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
And now back to the Dan Taplass Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
We're covering all things gun laws, all things Trump do
you want to, well, do you want to see Trump
and the National Guard come into Denver and help clean
up some stuff? But to get another perspective on this,
because many of you know, as the Weld County sheriff,
I've campaigned a few times, and in my initial campaign
back in twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen, one of the big questions,
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and remember that's the Obama era. When I was out
on the campaign trail, people kept saying, Hey, if the
Feds want to come in into Welld County, will you
stop them from coming If the ATF wants to come in,
if the FI wants to come in, are you going
to stand with the citizens and stop them from coming
in and doing investigations? You know, that's always a tough
path to travel because those all are law enforcement agencies,
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and so it was always very specific about what are
we talking about here? You know, we are we looking
for armed conflict. But now that Trump's in office, you know,
the tone of many of the citizens in Weld County
as well, We trust federal officers a little differently now
because of who is the you know, who's the person
in charge of the country. So Matt Turner and I
the person who's running to replace me as Weld County Sheriff,
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for having a little bit of this discussion today, and
I thought it might be interesting to have this on
the radio. So Captain Matt Turner with Well County, I
believe you're on the air with us. How are you
doing today?
Speaker 6 (11:42):
I'm doing good. Share how's the radio sho it's going.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
It's going like you would expect. We got a lot
of texters and some collars, so, you know, i'd kind
of thrown this out to this to the listeners of
what do you think about federal troops coming into the
state of Colorado helping to clean up Denver and Aurora?
You know, even maybe hey, there's a place in Wild
County we'd welcome some federal troops to a few select places.
As a candidate for Weld County Sheriff, I mean, you're
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running in a much different time than I was. What
are you hearing out there on the campaign trail? I mean,
are you are these the kind of questions you're getting
asked by by the electors or you know, what's the
general tone out there?
Speaker 6 (12:18):
I was hoping you'd ask this today. And I tell
you there are two topics that I interact with every
time I speak in front of people. The first topic
is your second Amendment. First topic is gi gun laws
and how crazy our state is going. The second thing
is the legal immigration. And I think what you're talking
about is that that second problem we got their bosses
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is just huge and we need help from our federal
partners right now, and not just that, we need to
be able to partner with them interact with that problem.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
So you're telling me in the state of Colorado, where
our governor says that we're not a sanctuary state, that
it's difficult for law enforcement to work with, heis.
Speaker 6 (12:56):
Well, here's here's the deal is. I live in Lolb
County and I want to serve people of Low County,
and I don't feel like Welb County is a sanctuary county,
but our state is a sanctuary state. We have to
look at it that way. Our the governor has made
it into that, and I think that we see it
on a daily basis. We shouldn't feel like like we're
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a border county. But it's exactly how I feel.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
So having said all that, when you're talking to the
citizens out there and they're talking to you about their
their Second Amendment rights. They're talking to me about, you know,
interacting with with ice or federal federal agents of any
kind when it comes to the Second Amendment. Like you know,
we just had Senate Bill three go through, We've had
some some revisions to the concealed handgun permit laws, like
what are the what are the points of focus? You know,
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what are people upset about.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
I think the biggest thing that they've said about is
is the the time and the amount of steps that
they will have to go through now to exercise their
Second Amendment rights. So not not to drag it out,
I know you've been talking about this at length, but
you're going to have to go through multiple stops just
to go just to have the ability to go buy
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a firearm. Right not mention that, but the fees that
will come with that. Now, in Weld County, we're working
very hard to not have that. We're not going to
have any fees other than what is mandated by the state.
But Weld County will not charge any additional fees. We're
going to eat that cost. But not every county is
going to be that way. And so you start talking
about you're getting fees left and right, the amount of
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time it takes it is getting harder to exercise that
second then it right, and then there's still some unknowns
we don't we don't have answers to. We don't know
what the gun shells or what the gunfores are going
to look like. We don't know what they're going to
have on their shelves still because we don't know what
gods are going to be banned altogether. And I think
the uncertainty of everything is the biggest focal point that
people have. They don't know what's coming still.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Well, and I think you hit on a key point there.
You know, you said that in Weld County will only
charge the fees that are required by the state. We
don't know what those fees are right now.
Speaker 6 (14:59):
We don't know the fees, we don't know the system.
We don't know honestly, we don't have clarification to the
law itself, and I don't think we'll get it until
last minute and probably have to figure out some stuff
afterward as well.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Yeah, I think that that clarification piece is going to
take a while. Well, kind of switching gears a little bit.
When we're talking about dealing with ice or you know
any other federal agency. Are the voters generally they want
you to work with them or is it still that
tone of Hey, we don't want the FBI coming in here,
We don't want the ATF coming here. You know, is
it a mixed bag? What are you hearing?
Speaker 6 (15:30):
I think it's a mixed bag, but largely in favor
of working with ICE. The community that we serve they want.
They want immigrants who are in this country illegally and
doing crime out as quickly as possible. Now, I think
that the opposite end of that, there is an acceptance
of doing it the right way. And you know, we
shouldn't be out there doing ICE's job for them, and
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I agree with that, but we should be able to
work with ICE, We should be able to communicate with them.
I think the biggest hindrance that we have is we
can't cooperate with with a a what is a federal
civil issue, but it is still a federal law, it
still federal criminal law. This is when a person is
in this country illegally, they need to be deported, and
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the governor has made it impossible for us to work
with us and hold someone after their sentences done. Yeah,
if that was resolved, we'd be great.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Yeah, it's been. It's been definitely an uphill battle. Captain Turner,
Matt Turner, stick with us through this break. We'll come
back after on the other side, and we'll dive in
a little bit too. You know some of the other
topics that you're running into as a candidate for sheriff
and Well County. If you're listening to the Dan Capless
Show here on six point thirty k how with Well
County Sheriff Steve Oreams as your guest host, stick with us.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 7 (16:57):
But I'll say I have an obligation and when will
lose when twenty people are killed over the last two
and a half weeks and seventy five or shot with bullets.
So let me tell you a little story about a
place called DC District of Columbia.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Right here where we are.
Speaker 7 (17:16):
It's now a safe zone. We have no crime. We
have it's in such great shape. You can go and
actually walk with your children, your wife, your husband. You
can walk right down the middle of the street. You're
not going to be shot, Peter, You're safe.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Everyone likes you anyway. They probably wouldn't do it. Welcome
back to the dan Kapla Show. We want to start
off with that sound that's Trump basically talking about, Hey,
we've made DC safe, We'll do the same for Chicago.
And I'm asking you guys, would you welcome the same
thing in Denver and Aurora? Again? You're back on the
Dankpla Show with Well Kenny Shriff Steve Riams as your
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guest host. And we went to break we have. We
had Captain Matt Turner on, he's running to replace me
as the Weld County sheriff up in up in beautiful
Weld County, and we were talking about, Hey, what are
the things you're approaching or you're saying on the campaign trail?
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Matt.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
I know you're still with us, but when you're out
there on the campaign trail, what are you hearing about
crime in Colorado? Well, maybe a little different than Colorado
as a whole, but what are the fears of the citizens?
What do they think about the rate of crime in
Colorado or in Weld County generally?
Speaker 6 (18:23):
Well, I'll talk about Colorado and the whole boss, because
here's the deal is, people in Weld County are afraid
that our crime rates are going to become like Denver,
like Aurora, and like the rest of the state. And
that's their fear. And the legislation has done some terrible
things to Colorado in general. And depending on where you
get your crime stats, and you know that crime stats
are generally behind anyway, it's hard to find updated stuff.
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But there's no reason that we should be within the
top four states for property crime or within the top
eight states for violent crime. And yes, while President Trump
has talked about some of the worst places in the
nation top four and top eight, that's pretty high up there. Yeah,
that's not a record you want that we're going to
become that.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Yeah, I totally get that. And it's not like, you know,
those borders stop people from coming up to from Denver,
up to Weld County and quite frankly, you know, if
you want to go to a concert, if you want
to go to a football game, a basketball game, you're
coming down into Denver and you're exposing yourself and your
family to that that mess that is down here. So
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when we're asking people, would you welcome Donald Trump and
the National Guard to come in and clean things up,
I got to tell you the tech screen is highly
supportive of such measures. So I'm assuming the voters sit
there with them. Okay, that's fair. When we're talking about
gun laws, you said, you know you're getting a few
questions out there. I want to ask you this one
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because we were covering a little bit about, you know,
how Weld County presently and in the future, hopefully when
you take over as the new sheriff. He said, Hey,
Weld County is going to take care of you. We're
not going to look at charging anything more than what
the state charges. So this person ask a really brilliant
quot question, and it's one that you and I have discussed.
But does it matter which sheriff's office you apply to
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for a gun permitting?
Speaker 1 (20:06):
No?
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Not, that's that's for the new semi automatic you know,
the ability to go buy a new semi automatic weapon.
Does it matter what county a citizen goes to?
Speaker 6 (20:17):
Well, they're The phrasing in that bill is so poor
that that we can't tell because it doesn't use it
doesn't use the phrasing that's usually there of the county
sheriff or the sheriff of a specified county. It just
says a sheriff and because of that, it opens up
the discussion there of whether or not I have to
go to Weld County or if I continue to go
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somewhere else, Because I mean, if we're doing that, if
we're trying to treat our citizens the right way, we
may get people from other counties coming to see us,
which will increase our traffic.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
I suspect if we do business the way we've done
for consialed handgun permits where we charge no local fee, Uh,
if you continue that into the future, and if if
you continue that with with this gun permitting process, we're
going to get a lot of of gun tourists I
would say coming into the Well County Sheriff's office.
Speaker 6 (21:05):
I foresee that happening, especially if they don't clarify the
billity differently.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
And honestly, maybe that's not a bad thing, you know,
And the talks that I've had with other sheriffs, it
doesn't seem like anybody's necessarily opposed to issuing those permits.
But what they say in public and what they do
in private or two different things.
Speaker 6 (21:22):
Just kind of a lot of them haven't put much
they charge yet either.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Well, yeah, and we don't know what the state's going
to add on to that and are set as the
baseline and what a what a sheriff might add on
top of that. So kind of wrap out the hour
or the time here with you as you're out there traveling, like,
what is the thing that you need help with the most?
Can how can the voters out there get to know you?
How can they support your campaign? And by the way,
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how many parades are there in welld County?
Speaker 6 (21:50):
So I've lost count of county prades, but I know
there's three left and that's important thing right now? Yes, sir,
but I'll tell you boss, here's what I think is
that our community wants to help. Our community is scared
of having an outside candidate come in and change how
we look at our ethics, our values, or how how
we look at how we treat our citizens. The county
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owes you a lot of thanks, and I'm not trying
to butter your bread here, but we've done a lot
to make the well County Sheriff's Office a forward facing
agency that serves our community and we got to keep
that going. So I want to interact with as many
people as possible. I'll go talk to any group whatsoever
I'll come to your house and talk to you. I'll
buy you pizza, I'll bring ice cream, whatever you want.
(22:33):
But if if people want me to come and chat
with them, I'd recommend getting on my website and sending
me a message. You can email me at Turner for
Sheriff twenty twenty six at gmail dot com. My personal
information is on my website. Call me. I'm there. I'll
come talk to you about any any topic out there.
But I want to make sure that Well County continues
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the positive trend that you have, you have you have continued,
and I want to make it even better.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
And what's their website address?
Speaker 6 (23:03):
West side address is www dot turn for sriff dot com.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
And I assume you're on all the social media's, the Twitters,
the Facebook's, the Instagrams.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
I'm on everything out there, yes.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Sir, whether you like it or not. Huh.
Speaker 6 (23:17):
So I tell you it's a blessing and a curse.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
So I tell people all the time. Weld County is
a four thousand square mile county. We basically have like
twenty eight municipalities, and every one of them wants to
have a parade, some of them two or three. It
seems like how many weekends off have you had during
this summertime of campaigning.
Speaker 6 (23:37):
Well, I'll tell you I got this last weekend off,
but that's only because the parade was on Monday. So
I haven't had a weekend off all summer. But I
welcome it. I want to get out and meet as
many people as possible, you know. And this next weekend
we're up in Fort Lufton, and I look forward to
meeting those folks and I'll beat a booth all day,
stop buying, see me, And I want to hear what
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the community do down there is worried about, sure, because
that's important to us too.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Yeah. As I said, a four thousand square mile county,
we cover a lot of demographics, some far more closer
to the Denver metro area than others. So the needs
and the wants of the citizens and different areas of
the county definitely they change. And you know, there's different
wants and different needs for all those different groups.
Speaker 6 (24:22):
Matt, Yeah, and I love it. I love meeting people,
So I look forward to I look forward to the
next three prades. I help me to sound negative about it.
It's exhausting, but I've also got an a year and
a half left and I'm not stopping now.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
No, you're You're definitely hard and heavy on the campaign trail. Yeah, Matt,
thanks for coming on the show. We really appreciate the time.
I know that campaigning is tough, but the job of
sheriff is just as tough. So this is just preparing
you for hopefully that eventual win when you walk across
the finish line next November. So thanks for being on
the show with us, and again throughout your website one
more time in case people want to find.
Speaker 6 (24:54):
You absolutely www dot turnerfsriff dot com.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Thank you, sir that we'll cut the brake when we
get back, We'll get back on your phone calls. I'll
answer as many of the questions as you want to
send in that I can get to about gun laws again.
You can text in at five seven seven, three nine
and load up the phone if you'd like three O
three seven one three eight two five five. When we
get back, we'll go straight to Tim from Fort Collins.
You're listening to the Dan Capless Show here on six
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thirty k How with Well Kenny Sheriff Steve Riams.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
And now back to the Dan Kapless Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Fort Collins. Thank you for holding for all that time.
You got some comments about the gun laws.
Speaker 8 (25:35):
What do you have to say, Well, I think they're
too difficult to work with, no kid, Yeah, I'm having
a good taxi driver.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
Okay, we have actually know where we defend ourselves.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
You know I hadn't looked at it from that perspective.
Speaker 8 (25:51):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we can't. Hence we can't have nice
can't you have anything? Like?
Speaker 4 (25:59):
How do we protect themselves?
Speaker 2 (26:01):
You know that's a great question.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Sixty almost sixty seven.
Speaker 8 (26:07):
And you know, of course I don't think I get
a pistol, but that was turned down on rifles and such.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Sure, well, I know there's some there's some alternatives to
handguns out there. There's a new device called a burna
that Sean Hannity does a lot of advertising for. It's
a it's a gun like Yeah, it's a gun like weapon.
I mean, I guess it's better than nothing. A lot
of it. You know, if you're driving a taxi. It
kind of depends on the rules that the companies put
on you. But one thing you really want to be
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thinking about is there's kind of like a there was
a law passed I believe in the twenty three session
that allows local municipalities to set their own gun laws,
so they can ban, can still carry. They can, like Boulder,
try to ban everything. You know, how they enforce it,
I don't know. But as a taxi driver, when you're
traveling from one area to another, you know, that's that's
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definitely a different, different issue to navigate than most folks.
So I don't have great advice for you other than
your spot on it. Colorado is difficult. It's very burdensome.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (27:12):
Well, I've always been reluctant to get a gun because
half the time you don't know what you'll get trouble for.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Yeah, there's some truth to that. Yeah, there's some truth
to that.
Speaker 8 (27:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
I try to get call and the gigging is I
gus bear a National Guard. I have no problem.
Speaker 8 (27:30):
With the guard coming in.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
I mean that's gonna be army. That's good training. Sure anything, Well.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Tim, you you align with I'm going to say every
Texter that's texted in about that particular issue, and hey,
I really appreciate you listening to the show while you're
out driving around. I appreciate you calling in. Do it again.
You know, we like to have the callers, and again
thanks for holding on the line for as long as
you did. Tim.
Speaker 8 (27:58):
Okay, thank you much, you bet, buddy.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
So we'll get to some of the texts here. But
Tim's spot on. There's not one of you that has said, hey, this,
this National Guard idea is a bad idea. You've all
been like, hey, we'll gladly take it. I guess if
if there's someone that disagrees with that and call it
in text in, let's see what the other side of
the equation is. You can call in at three or
three seven, one, three eight, two five five or text
(28:24):
in at five seven, seven three nine. Starts your text
out with Dan. I'm going to get to a few
of these texts, because man, they're definitely on point when
it comes to some of these gun laws. This this
most recent one. What will happen when a stolen fireararm
is recovered after the new law goes into effect? Well,
the owner need to take the class for it to
be returned or will it just be like it is
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now in a simple background check will suffice yeah, that
the new law won't matter for the returning of a firearm. Now,
there is a law in place that said if you
don't have your gun safely stored and it gets stolen,
that you could be held liable criminally. So that's another
I say this in air quotes well crafted piece of
legislation in the state of Colorado that a lot of
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people aren't very aware of. That's a safe storage law.
So be careful if your gun gets stolen that you've
you've had it properly stored, you didn't have it setting
out somewhere that it shouldn't have been. And and also
if if you did leave it out and it happened
to be stolen and you don't turn around and report it,
there's a there can be a punishment for that too.
So you know, the Democrats are coming at you in
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every way they know how in Colorado when it comes
to this stuff. Then we have someone talking about just
generally candidates for office here in Colorado says nobody has
a chance in a chance in this state with all
these unknown GOP governor candidates. Dan Kaplis is the only
guy who can win. This state is full of loser
anti American Democrats. And you know, I don't know exactly
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where that vote where that listener slash voter lives, but
there are there are a lot of Democrats in this state.
I can't argue with that. This one. What does Colorado's
Mickey mouse semi auto permit nonsense mean to out of
state concealed and other firearms carriers? Had great question. I
kind of covered this with Tim from Fort Collins. There
was a law passed back in I believe it was
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twenty three that said, hey, you know, each municipality can
create its own gun laws. So there is no clear
answer to that because it really depends on what areas
you're traveling through. And if you're carrying a concealed weapon
or if you're carrying a gun in a case in
your car, you know exactly how you're transporting that gun.
And again, I think that confusion was meant. It was
put in by design. You're going to want to do
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some research as to where you're traveling through this state
if you're carrying a gun, period, if you're coming to
Weld County. We still believe in the Constitution, we still
believe in America, so you're fine. But I can't speak
for every other place, but I would generally say most
of the Eastern Plains or the Republican counties you're good
everywhere else, good luck. Here's a pretty appropriate one. Are
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you concerned if the sheriff gives okay to someone to
let them buy a gun and they go out and
become a school shooter with the sheriff, for the sheriff's
office be liable and sued. Well, technically no, the way
this bill is written, we're just checking a background and saying, yeah,
they qualified, they met all the structural requirements for buying
a firearm. We allowed them to give them a permit,
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they went and took the class, and then bought the firearm.
It'd be no different now than if a person showed
up and said, hey, I want to buy a firearm.
I cleared the background. If they buy that and the
gun store sells it to them, you know, is the
gun store liable. No, But there's always someone looking to
you know, looking to figure out a way to take
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on and make some money off of a bad situation.
So nothing is full proof. We've got a few more
callers that are popping up on the phone here. We'll
get to you right after this break. This is a
little bit of a long one. We'll come back in
this next hour. We'll get right back to all this stuff.
Stay tuned, stay with us through the break. You're listening
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
Wellcoming Sheriff Steve Reams filling in his guest host Day
two of two. I got Zach on the board and
Kelly behind the glass trying to help me out as
we go through the show today. But you know, yesterday
we had a really fun filled show, I thought, covering
some of the gun laws stuff that was going on
in the state of Colorado and the Colorado State Shooting
Association pushing back against the state, you know, following a
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lawsuit to try to overturn Senate built three man. That
really opened up a lot of questions from you guys,
phone calls, texts, the text that we're coming in and
quite honestly, I didn't get to all of them. So
I'm going to actually try to go back and cover
some of that stuff because you know, I tell you guys,
if you text in, I'm going to try to read
it on the air and make sure that we get
an answer for you. And obviously this is an issue
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of concern because, man, like I said, text line blew
up yesterday, there's just so much confusion over some changes
in the law when it comes to concealed handgun permits,
some changes in the law when it comes to being
able to buy a firearm in the future. That's Senate
built three. You know, there's just well, to say Colorado's
a mess would be a bit of an understatement. But
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I also want to cover another topic and that's one
that's kind of fresh today with with Donald Trump, our
president kind of taking it to taking it to the
liberal governors around the well, governors and mayors around the country.
You know, he's he's got his sights set on Chicago,
but he's mentioned La, Baltimore, New York. You know obviously
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what he's doing in Washington, d C. And when when
Trump decided to federalize the National Guard and and uh,
you know, put them to work as local law enforcement
in d C. I had a little bit of trepidation because, yeah,
the optics of that sometimes are bad, but you do
realize that Washington, d C. Is is they've got a
crime problem. I mean, if you've traveled out to Washington,
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d C anytime in the past, you know, a few years.
There are just certain places you don't want to travel,
especially in the dark. And you know, I've been out
there several times doing work with the Sheriff's associations or
with the Federation of American Immigration Reform, and there's definitely
places where you just don't want to be. And that
could even be right across the street from the Capitol.
So when when President Trump decided, hey, we're going to
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clean this city up, you know, he wasn't joking. They
put a lot of troops on the ground, and you know,
the results have been dramatic, and I think trying to
replicate that in other cities is you know, an obvious
desire for this president. He wants to see law and order,
you know, brought back to our country. And as a
law and order sheriff, it's hard for me to go
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against that. I mean, why would I That's that's kind
of the thing that that Colorado is missing. So my
question to you guys are would you welcome Trump setting
his sights on Denver? Would you welcome that same kind
of And I say Denver because I think Denver is
the big problem here. You can expand that out to
some parts of Aurora. But would you welcome the president
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making that same effort of pushing federal troops, you know,
the National Guard here into the city and city and
county of Denver into parts of Aurora and say let's
clean up this mess. You know, again, I'm a little
torn on the idea of do you want to put
military figures out on the street. But I can tell
you that what we're doing right now is not working.
Crime in Colorado continues to be a problem. It is
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better than it was maybe in the twenty twenty twenty
twenty one era, but that's you know, it's comparing bad
numbers to worse numbers. So you know, I'd really like
to hear from you guys, And do you think that
Denver should be on that list along with Baltimore, Washington,
d c, LA, Chicago, New York? Is Denver next, and
should we be on that list? Should we be higher
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on that list than some of those cities? You can
text in five seven seven three nine. Start your text
with Dan again, that's five seven seven three nine, or
I prefer it if you call in three seven one
three eight two five five. I love to have the
discussion back and forth and kind of get your opinion
and ask a few questions. And at the same time,
if you got some questions about these crazy gun laws
we were discussing yesterday again, send it Bill three. Where
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you got to go take a class, Well, first you
got to go get a background, then come to the
sheriff's office, your local sheriff's office to decide, Hey, is
my background good enough to where I can go take
a class? And then once I take that class, can
I go buy a gun? Once I buy that gun,
I still wait my three day waiting period, and then
I may finally get the thing that's obviously very burdensome,
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and that applies to semi automatic weapons. Not revolvers or
bolt action rifles or pump shotguns, but semi automatic weapons,
which are the most popular weapons sold in just about
any region of the United States, especially here in Colorado.
You know, are these laws to burdensome? Should that lawsuit
from CSSA fly through the court system and overturn that thing?
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I believe it should. But again two topics I want
to know. Hey, yeah, you got questions about the gun laws.
Text Man five seven seven three nine started out with
dan or call in three h three seven one three
eight two five five. We had some great discussion yesterday.
But you know, the secondary question is would you welcome
Trump to Colorado? Would you welcome Trump and the National
Guard to Colorado to say, help us clean up this mess?
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And would you you know, would you want to see
your governor lean into that governor polus? Would you want
to see Mikey Johnston down there in Denver welcome those
troops even though he's talked about standing on the border
of the city and county armed arm with police officers
turning federal troops away. You know what would you prefer?
And if it's not Denver, is there another place in
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Colorado you want to see federal troops go? Is there
a place that we're not paying attention to? Or is
that just the epicenter of where the problems are? I
tend to believe it is. But you know what, say
you let's have that discussion. Here's the first one, Dan,
of course, that's aimed at us. Bring in the troops. Ok,
here's another one, Sheriff. Absolutely, I would support President Trump
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sending troops in to clean up the crime in our
cities in Colorado. All Right, So We got two votes
there and they're continuing to come in. We'll go to
some of the questions that we didn't get to yesterday
when it comes to the gun laws, and this one
was pretty creative. I didn't get a chance to get
to it yesterday, so we'll cover now, said sheriff. Could
law enforcement entities create citizen deputies or citizen law enforcement
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agents that would create a loophole to bypass these rules. Well,
that's really really creative. It's also not going to work,
And unfortunately, there's two reasons. We have law enforcement reform
that was passed through Senate Bill two seventeen a few
sessions ago, which puts some restrictions on law enforcement that you,
as a regular citizen, whether you're a volunteer law enforcement
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officer or not, you just don't want those things. You
actually have more rights as a regular citizen to defend
your family and yourself and your own home than a
law enforcement officer does, even when they're off duty. That
may sound crazy, but that's the truth. And on top
of that, law enforcement still has to go through the
waiting period and deal with all the mess that is
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these state laws. We don't get to bypass the three
day waiting rule, the semiotic automatic weapon. If we're buying
that for our own selves, we still have to go
through all the same process that every citizen does. The
only exception to that is if it's a weapon that
is issued by the agency. There are some provisions to
where that can be bypassed. Again, call in ask your
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questions three O three seven one three eight two five five,
or you can text in. Start your text with Dan
five seven seven thirty nine. You guys always have some
very intelligent comments and questions, and I welcome them because
that's what makes the show fun. Here's another one. Whatever
happened to the Colorado of Bureau of Investigations being contacted
to see if one is qualified to buy a firearm?
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I remember when they did that for me. Why now
the Sheriff's office is in the middle of it. I
don't get it. Well, CBI is still a part of that,
but unfortunately they're there. They don't take that. Well, say,
unfortunately you don't want them to take the point. You
don't want state police to be your your gateway to
your gun rights, as simple as that. You you're better
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off working with local law enforcement. We got to call
on the line. Let's get to this one real quick
before we go to break. We got James and Canyon City. James,
are you with us on the line, Zach, you got him?
James and Canyon City?
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Yeah, I'm here all right, James.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
What what do you got for me?
Speaker 4 (08:32):
So what I think is.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
People, well, government doesn't run efficiency efficiently and can't be
trusted on a lot of things.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
That's the very truth es actually from.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
The especially from the Democrat perspective. And I'm just wondering
if they knew that their their law is impossible to
be upheld, but they did it deliberately to put to
play to their base.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
That's a great gun law. That's a great question, James.
We're close to a break, so I'll answer this and
then we'll go to a break. I don't think the
Democrats care how much they how much burden they put
on you. Their whole goal is to make it as
difficult as possible for you to access a firearm. And
if that's through bureaucracy, fine, if that's through a multitude
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of steps, fine. They don't really care about whether or
not they're in my opinion, they don't really care how
close they are adhering to the Constitution. Their whole job
is to create a level of burden and a level
of steps that just become so onerous that you'll decide
it's not worth it. I don't want to go do this.
I don't want to go buy a gun. I don't
want to try to exercise my Second Amendment rights. And
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you know, truth told, if you could get one of
them in a private booth and ask them to be
completely honest with you, I think that's what they would say. Uh,
we're going to cut to a break because we got to.
We got to make sure we pay the pay the
station here with our with our commercials. But when we
come back, we'll have sheriff's candidate on out of welld County.
His name is Matt Turner. He's running to replace me.
(10:05):
But Tim from Fort Collins, I know you're on the line.
We'll get to you as soon as we can. If
you want to stick there and we'll go to break.
You listen to the Dan Caplas Show here with well
County Sheriff Steve Reims as your guest host.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
And now back to the Dan Taplass Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
We're covering all things gun laws, all things Trump do
you want to, well, do you want to see Trump
and the National Guard come into Denver and help clean
up some stuff? But to get another perspective on this,
because many of you know, as the Weld County sheriff,
I've campaigned a few times, and in my initial campaign
back in twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen, one of the big questions,
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and remember that's the Obama era. When I was out
on the campaign trail, people kept saying, Hey, if the
Feds want to come in into Welld County, will you
stop them from coming If the ATF wants to come in,
if the FI wants to come in, are you going
to stand with the citizens and stop them from coming
in and doing investigations? You know, that's always a tough
path to travel because those all are law enforcement agencies,
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and so it was always very specific about what are
we talking about here? You know, we are we looking
for armed conflict. But now that Trump's in office, you know,
the tone of many of the citizens in Weld County
as well, We trust federal officers a little differently now
because of who is the you know, who's the person
in charge of the country. So Matt Turner and I
the person who's running to replace me as Weld County Sheriff,
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for having a little bit of this discussion today, and
I thought it might be interesting to have this on
the radio. So Captain Matt Turner with Well County, I
believe you're on the air with us. How are you
doing today?
Speaker 6 (11:42):
I'm doing good. Share how's the radio sho it's going.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
It's going like you would expect. We got a lot
of texters and some collars, so, you know, i'd kind
of thrown this out to this to the listeners of
what do you think about federal troops coming into the
state of Colorado helping to clean up Denver and Aurora?
You know, even maybe hey, there's a place in Wild
County we'd welcome some federal troops to a few select places.
As a candidate for Weld County Sheriff, I mean, you're
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running in a much different time than I was. What
are you hearing out there on the campaign trail? I mean,
are you are these the kind of questions you're getting
asked by by the electors or you know, what's the
general tone out there?
Speaker 6 (12:18):
I was hoping you'd ask this today. And I tell
you there are two topics that I interact with every
time I speak in front of people. The first topic
is your second Amendment. First topic is gi gun laws
and how crazy our state is going. The second thing
is the legal immigration. And I think what you're talking
about is that that second problem we got their bosses
(12:38):
is just huge and we need help from our federal
partners right now, and not just that, we need to
be able to partner with them interact with that problem.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
So you're telling me in the state of Colorado, where
our governor says that we're not a sanctuary state, that
it's difficult for law enforcement to work with, heis.
Speaker 6 (12:56):
Well, here's here's the deal is. I live in Lolb
County and I want to serve people of Low County,
and I don't feel like Welb County is a sanctuary county,
but our state is a sanctuary state. We have to
look at it that way. Our the governor has made
it into that, and I think that we see it
on a daily basis. We shouldn't feel like like we're
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a border county. But it's exactly how I feel.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
So having said all that, when you're talking to the
citizens out there and they're talking to you about their
their Second Amendment rights. They're talking to me about, you know,
interacting with with ice or federal federal agents of any
kind when it comes to the Second Amendment. Like you know,
we just had Senate Bill three go through, We've had
some some revisions to the concealed handgun permit laws, like
what are the what are the points of focus? You know,
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what are people upset about.
Speaker 6 (13:46):
I think the biggest thing that they've said about is
is the the time and the amount of steps that
they will have to go through now to exercise their
Second Amendment rights. So not not to drag it out,
I know you've been talking about this at length, but
you're going to have to go through multiple stops just
to go just to have the ability to go buy
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a firearm. Right not mention that, but the fees that
will come with that. Now, in Weld County, we're working
very hard to not have that. We're not going to
have any fees other than what is mandated by the state.
But Weld County will not charge any additional fees. We're
going to eat that cost. But not every county is
going to be that way. And so you start talking
about you're getting fees left and right, the amount of
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time it takes it is getting harder to exercise that
second then it right, and then there's still some unknowns
we don't we don't have answers to. We don't know
what the gun shells or what the gunfores are going
to look like. We don't know what they're going to
have on their shelves still because we don't know what
gods are going to be banned altogether. And I think
the uncertainty of everything is the biggest focal point that
people have. They don't know what's coming still.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Well, and I think you hit on a key point there.
You know, you said that in Weld County will only
charge the fees that are required by the state. We
don't know what those fees are right now.
Speaker 6 (14:59):
We don't know the fees, we don't know the system.
We don't know honestly, we don't have clarification to the
law itself, and I don't think we'll get it until
last minute and probably have to figure out some stuff
afterward as well.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Yeah, I think that that clarification piece is going to
take a while. Well, kind of switching gears a little bit.
When we're talking about dealing with ice or you know
any other federal agency. Are the voters generally they want
you to work with them or is it still that
tone of Hey, we don't want the FBI coming in here,
We don't want the ATF coming here. You know, is
it a mixed bag? What are you hearing?
Speaker 6 (15:30):
I think it's a mixed bag, but largely in favor
of working with ICE. The community that we serve they want.
They want immigrants who are in this country illegally and
doing crime out as quickly as possible. Now, I think
that the opposite end of that, there is an acceptance
of doing it the right way. And you know, we
shouldn't be out there doing ICE's job for them, and
(15:52):
I agree with that, but we should be able to
work with ICE, We should be able to communicate with them.
I think the biggest hindrance that we have is we
can't cooperate with with a a what is a federal
civil issue, but it is still a federal law, it
still federal criminal law. This is when a person is
in this country illegally, they need to be deported, and
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the governor has made it impossible for us to work
with us and hold someone after their sentences done. Yeah,
if that was resolved, we'd be great.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Yeah, it's been. It's been definitely an uphill battle. Captain Turner,
Matt Turner, stick with us through this break. We'll come
back after on the other side, and we'll dive in
a little bit too. You know some of the other
topics that you're running into as a candidate for sheriff
and Well County. If you're listening to the Dan Capless
Show here on six point thirty k how with Well
County Sheriff Steve Oreams as your guest host, stick with us.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 7 (16:57):
But I'll say I have an obligation and when will
lose when twenty people are killed over the last two
and a half weeks and seventy five or shot with bullets.
So let me tell you a little story about a
place called DC District of Columbia.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Right here where we are.
Speaker 7 (17:16):
It's now a safe zone. We have no crime. We
have it's in such great shape. You can go and
actually walk with your children, your wife, your husband. You
can walk right down the middle of the street. You're
not going to be shot, Peter, You're safe.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Everyone likes you anyway. They probably wouldn't do it. Welcome
back to the dan Kapla Show. We want to start
off with that sound that's Trump basically talking about, Hey,
we've made DC safe, We'll do the same for Chicago.
And I'm asking you guys, would you welcome the same
thing in Denver and Aurora? Again? You're back on the
Dankpla Show with Well Kenny Shriff Steve Riams as your
(17:52):
guest host. And we went to break we have. We
had Captain Matt Turner on, he's running to replace me
as the Weld County sheriff up in up in beautiful
Weld County, and we were talking about, Hey, what are
the things you're approaching or you're saying on the campaign trail?
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Matt.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
I know you're still with us, but when you're out
there on the campaign trail, what are you hearing about
crime in Colorado? Well, maybe a little different than Colorado
as a whole, but what are the fears of the citizens?
What do they think about the rate of crime in
Colorado or in Weld County generally?
Speaker 6 (18:23):
Well, I'll talk about Colorado and the whole boss, because
here's the deal is, people in Weld County are afraid
that our crime rates are going to become like Denver,
like Aurora, and like the rest of the state. And
that's their fear. And the legislation has done some terrible
things to Colorado in general. And depending on where you
get your crime stats, and you know that crime stats
are generally behind anyway, it's hard to find updated stuff.
(18:45):
But there's no reason that we should be within the
top four states for property crime or within the top
eight states for violent crime. And yes, while President Trump
has talked about some of the worst places in the
nation top four and top eight, that's pretty high up there. Yeah,
that's not a record you want that we're going to
become that.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Yeah, I totally get that. And it's not like, you know,
those borders stop people from coming up to from Denver,
up to Weld County and quite frankly, you know, if
you want to go to a concert, if you want
to go to a football game, a basketball game, you're
coming down into Denver and you're exposing yourself and your
family to that that mess that is down here. So
(19:23):
when we're asking people, would you welcome Donald Trump and
the National Guard to come in and clean things up,
I got to tell you the tech screen is highly
supportive of such measures. So I'm assuming the voters sit
there with them. Okay, that's fair. When we're talking about
gun laws, you said, you know you're getting a few
questions out there. I want to ask you this one
(19:44):
because we were covering a little bit about, you know,
how Weld County presently and in the future, hopefully when
you take over as the new sheriff. He said, Hey,
Weld County is going to take care of you. We're
not going to look at charging anything more than what
the state charges. So this person ask a really brilliant
quot question, and it's one that you and I have discussed.
But does it matter which sheriff's office you apply to
(20:04):
for a gun permitting?
Speaker 1 (20:06):
No?
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Not, that's that's for the new semi automatic you know,
the ability to go buy a new semi automatic weapon.
Does it matter what county a citizen goes to?
Speaker 6 (20:17):
Well, they're The phrasing in that bill is so poor
that that we can't tell because it doesn't use it
doesn't use the phrasing that's usually there of the county
sheriff or the sheriff of a specified county. It just
says a sheriff and because of that, it opens up
the discussion there of whether or not I have to
go to Weld County or if I continue to go
(20:38):
somewhere else, Because I mean, if we're doing that, if
we're trying to treat our citizens the right way, we
may get people from other counties coming to see us,
which will increase our traffic.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
I suspect if we do business the way we've done
for consialed handgun permits where we charge no local fee, Uh,
if you continue that into the future, and if if
you continue that with with this gun permitting process, we're
going to get a lot of of gun tourists I
would say coming into the Well County Sheriff's office.
Speaker 6 (21:05):
I foresee that happening, especially if they don't clarify the
billity differently.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
And honestly, maybe that's not a bad thing, you know,
And the talks that I've had with other sheriffs, it
doesn't seem like anybody's necessarily opposed to issuing those permits.
But what they say in public and what they do
in private or two different things.
Speaker 6 (21:22):
Just kind of a lot of them haven't put much
they charge yet either.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Well, yeah, and we don't know what the state's going
to add on to that and are set as the
baseline and what a what a sheriff might add on
top of that. So kind of wrap out the hour
or the time here with you as you're out there traveling, like,
what is the thing that you need help with the most?
Can how can the voters out there get to know you?
How can they support your campaign? And by the way,
(21:46):
how many parades are there in welld County?
Speaker 6 (21:50):
So I've lost count of county prades, but I know
there's three left and that's important thing right now? Yes, sir,
but I'll tell you boss, here's what I think is
that our community wants to help. Our community is scared
of having an outside candidate come in and change how
we look at our ethics, our values, or how how
we look at how we treat our citizens. The county
(22:11):
owes you a lot of thanks, and I'm not trying
to butter your bread here, but we've done a lot
to make the well County Sheriff's Office a forward facing
agency that serves our community and we got to keep
that going. So I want to interact with as many
people as possible. I'll go talk to any group whatsoever
I'll come to your house and talk to you. I'll
buy you pizza, I'll bring ice cream, whatever you want.
(22:33):
But if if people want me to come and chat
with them, I'd recommend getting on my website and sending
me a message. You can email me at Turner for
Sheriff twenty twenty six at gmail dot com. My personal
information is on my website. Call me. I'm there. I'll
come talk to you about any any topic out there.
But I want to make sure that Well County continues
(22:55):
the positive trend that you have, you have you have continued,
and I want to make it even better.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
And what's their website address?
Speaker 6 (23:03):
West side address is www dot turn for sriff dot com.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
And I assume you're on all the social media's, the Twitters,
the Facebook's, the Instagrams.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
I'm on everything out there, yes.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Sir, whether you like it or not. Huh.
Speaker 6 (23:17):
So I tell you it's a blessing and a curse.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
So I tell people all the time. Weld County is
a four thousand square mile county. We basically have like
twenty eight municipalities, and every one of them wants to
have a parade, some of them two or three. It
seems like how many weekends off have you had during
this summertime of campaigning.
Speaker 6 (23:37):
Well, I'll tell you I got this last weekend off,
but that's only because the parade was on Monday. So
I haven't had a weekend off all summer. But I
welcome it. I want to get out and meet as
many people as possible, you know. And this next weekend
we're up in Fort Lufton, and I look forward to
meeting those folks and I'll beat a booth all day,
stop buying, see me, And I want to hear what
(23:59):
the community do down there is worried about, sure, because
that's important to us too.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Yeah. As I said, a four thousand square mile county,
we cover a lot of demographics, some far more closer
to the Denver metro area than others. So the needs
and the wants of the citizens and different areas of
the county definitely they change. And you know, there's different
wants and different needs for all those different groups.
Speaker 6 (24:22):
Matt, Yeah, and I love it. I love meeting people,
So I look forward to I look forward to the
next three prades. I help me to sound negative about it.
It's exhausting, but I've also got an a year and
a half left and I'm not stopping now.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
No, you're You're definitely hard and heavy on the campaign trail. Yeah, Matt,
thanks for coming on the show. We really appreciate the time.
I know that campaigning is tough, but the job of
sheriff is just as tough. So this is just preparing
you for hopefully that eventual win when you walk across
the finish line next November. So thanks for being on
the show with us, and again throughout your website one
more time in case people want to find.
Speaker 6 (24:54):
You absolutely www dot turnerfsriff dot com.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Thank you, sir that we'll cut the brake when we
get back, We'll get back on your phone calls. I'll
answer as many of the questions as you want to
send in that I can get to about gun laws again.
You can text in at five seven seven, three nine
and load up the phone if you'd like three O
three seven one three eight two five five. When we
get back, we'll go straight to Tim from Fort Collins.
You're listening to the Dan Capless Show here on six
(25:19):
thirty k How with Well Kenny Sheriff Steve Riams.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
And now back to the Dan Kapless Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Fort Collins. Thank you for holding for all that time.
You got some comments about the gun laws.
Speaker 8 (25:35):
What do you have to say, Well, I think they're
too difficult to work with, no kid, Yeah, I'm having
a good taxi driver.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
Okay, we have actually know where we defend ourselves.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
You know I hadn't looked at it from that perspective.
Speaker 8 (25:51):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we can't. Hence we can't have nice
can't you have anything? Like?
Speaker 4 (25:59):
How do we protect themselves?
Speaker 2 (26:01):
You know that's a great question.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Sixty almost sixty seven.
Speaker 8 (26:07):
And you know, of course I don't think I get
a pistol, but that was turned down on rifles and such.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Sure, well, I know there's some there's some alternatives to
handguns out there. There's a new device called a burna
that Sean Hannity does a lot of advertising for. It's
a it's a gun like Yeah, it's a gun like weapon.
I mean, I guess it's better than nothing. A lot
of it. You know, if you're driving a taxi. It
kind of depends on the rules that the companies put
on you. But one thing you really want to be
(26:38):
thinking about is there's kind of like a there was
a law passed I believe in the twenty three session
that allows local municipalities to set their own gun laws,
so they can ban, can still carry. They can, like Boulder,
try to ban everything. You know, how they enforce it,
I don't know. But as a taxi driver, when you're
traveling from one area to another, you know, that's that's
(27:00):
definitely a different, different issue to navigate than most folks.
So I don't have great advice for you other than
your spot on it. Colorado is difficult. It's very burdensome.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (27:12):
Well, I've always been reluctant to get a gun because
half the time you don't know what you'll get trouble for.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Yeah, there's some truth to that. Yeah, there's some truth
to that.
Speaker 8 (27:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
I try to get call and the gigging is I
gus bear a National Guard. I have no problem.
Speaker 8 (27:30):
With the guard coming in.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
I mean that's gonna be army. That's good training. Sure anything, Well.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Tim, you you align with I'm going to say every
Texter that's texted in about that particular issue, and hey,
I really appreciate you listening to the show while you're
out driving around. I appreciate you calling in. Do it again.
You know, we like to have the callers, and again
thanks for holding on the line for as long as
you did. Tim.
Speaker 8 (27:58):
Okay, thank you much, you bet, buddy.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
So we'll get to some of the texts here. But
Tim's spot on. There's not one of you that has said, hey, this,
this National Guard idea is a bad idea. You've all
been like, hey, we'll gladly take it. I guess if
if there's someone that disagrees with that and call it
in text in, let's see what the other side of
the equation is. You can call in at three or
three seven, one, three eight, two five five or text
(28:24):
in at five seven, seven three nine. Starts your text
out with Dan. I'm going to get to a few
of these texts, because man, they're definitely on point when
it comes to some of these gun laws. This this
most recent one. What will happen when a stolen fireararm
is recovered after the new law goes into effect? Well,
the owner need to take the class for it to
be returned or will it just be like it is
(28:45):
now in a simple background check will suffice yeah, that
the new law won't matter for the returning of a firearm. Now,
there is a law in place that said if you
don't have your gun safely stored and it gets stolen,
that you could be held liable criminally. So that's another
I say this in air quotes well crafted piece of
legislation in the state of Colorado that a lot of
(29:06):
people aren't very aware of. That's a safe storage law.
So be careful if your gun gets stolen that you've
you've had it properly stored, you didn't have it setting
out somewhere that it shouldn't have been. And and also
if if you did leave it out and it happened
to be stolen and you don't turn around and report it,
there's a there can be a punishment for that too.
So you know, the Democrats are coming at you in
(29:27):
every way they know how in Colorado when it comes
to this stuff. Then we have someone talking about just
generally candidates for office here in Colorado says nobody has
a chance in a chance in this state with all
these unknown GOP governor candidates. Dan Kaplis is the only
guy who can win. This state is full of loser
anti American Democrats. And you know, I don't know exactly
(29:51):
where that vote where that listener slash voter lives, but
there are there are a lot of Democrats in this state.
I can't argue with that. This one. What does Colorado's
Mickey mouse semi auto permit nonsense mean to out of
state concealed and other firearms carriers? Had great question. I
kind of covered this with Tim from Fort Collins. There
was a law passed back in I believe it was
(30:12):
twenty three that said, hey, you know, each municipality can
create its own gun laws. So there is no clear
answer to that because it really depends on what areas
you're traveling through. And if you're carrying a concealed weapon
or if you're carrying a gun in a case in
your car, you know exactly how you're transporting that gun.
And again, I think that confusion was meant. It was
put in by design. You're going to want to do
(30:36):
some research as to where you're traveling through this state
if you're carrying a gun, period, if you're coming to
Weld County. We still believe in the Constitution, we still
believe in America, so you're fine. But I can't speak
for every other place, but I would generally say most
of the Eastern Plains or the Republican counties you're good
everywhere else, good luck. Here's a pretty appropriate one. Are
(30:58):
you concerned if the sheriff gives okay to someone to
let them buy a gun and they go out and
become a school shooter with the sheriff, for the sheriff's
office be liable and sued. Well, technically no, the way
this bill is written, we're just checking a background and saying, yeah,
they qualified, they met all the structural requirements for buying
a firearm. We allowed them to give them a permit,
(31:19):
they went and took the class, and then bought the firearm.
It'd be no different now than if a person showed
up and said, hey, I want to buy a firearm.
I cleared the background. If they buy that and the
gun store sells it to them, you know, is the
gun store liable. No, But there's always someone looking to
you know, looking to figure out a way to take
(31:39):
on and make some money off of a bad situation.
So nothing is full proof. We've got a few more
callers that are popping up on the phone here. We'll
get to you right after this break. This is a
little bit of a long one. We'll come back in
this next hour. We'll get right back to all this stuff.
Stay tuned, stay with us through the break. You're listening
to the Dan Caplish Show here on six point thirty
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