October 16, 2025 • 35 mins
In the first hour of today's edition of The Dan Caplis Show, Dan discusses Yemi Mobolade's potential candidacy for Colorado Governor and whether or not he could throw a wrench in the Democrats' plans.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
Beutif to say, to fight for truth, justice and the
American way.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
It seems like yesterday he was sitting right there could
reach out and touch him, and today he's indicted. John
Bolton the latest to be indicted, and so we'll have
some of the details on that for you. But as
you know, it doesn't really get interesting until we get
deeper into the case and actually, you know, get into
the motions and tour the trial. When we get more
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of the meat, more of the meat on the bone,
my sense is probably more indictments to come. Three all three, seven, one,
three eight, two five five. The number takes d an
five seven, seven, three nine. The text already flowing fast
and furious. We do appreciate that we're going to have
another entrant into the Colorado Governor's race pretty soon. The
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question will be who's not in the race, But that's great.
I think the more the better. And so we're going
to be talking with Wayne Logson does a great job
at the Colorado Springs set if you're new to the area,
if you're new to the area and you're just figuring out, Okay,
where do I get my media. You've got these two
great papers, Colorado Springs Gazette and the Denver Gazette.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
And they are operated at a very very high level.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
I don't know, I haven't checked Ryan if they're still
owned by phil Anshoots, but they're operated at a very
high level, and so I would put those on your
daily must do list. So Wayne is the editorial pages
editor there and he's going to join us at four
thirty six. He had interviewed the mayor of Colorado Springs,
them Mobilatti, who is going to join us as well
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in a few days. Anyway, I want to get Wayne's
take on that interview. We'll have some of the sound.
But the big question of whether y Emmy is going
to enter the governor's race, and if so, which party
is he or none at all? Is he going to
be an independent candidate for governor in Colorado? And I'd
love to get your take, whether it's tied to Yemma
or somebody else, whether you think an independent candidate for
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governor could win in Colorado as the post obviously Democrat
or Republican three H three seven one three A two
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nine and so much we have to do locally today,
which I always enjoy. But I do want to talk
about se DOT, you know, cutting out all these cameras,
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all these these highway cameras, all these cameras.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
In the mountains.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Well, we'll play a KUSA story on that. And you know,
government should have some basic core functions, and one of
those should be those cameras, those roadway cameras, those cameras
in the mountains, but not to be, not to be,
those are being cut. Did you realize, Ryan, it was
this day in nineteen seventy eight, But you weren't born yet,
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were you. Oh yeah, I was four this day and no,
Well then you'll remember this when Pope John Paul the Great,
I do remember Paul the Great, Yeah, was introduced his
pub Oh well he's up there.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Peter was pretty good.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
He was the original d og though.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
He was pretty good.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, And I liked the new guy a lot.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
You do, wow, your Chicago guy.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Yeah, But but I mean, he's and how weird to think.
I know, we're in seminary at the same time. His
parish is a few miles down the road from my seminary,
but he goes to a different seminary.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Could have been you guys were together far off.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Which would have ruined him, ruined him or made you.
It would have ruined him, My friend.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Yeah, we we probably had a little too much feminine
influence at our seminary, but it was a great seminary
and I was very, very lucky to be there. Three
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by feminine influence is we were allowed to date when
I spent those four years in the Catholic seminary in
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high school.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
And I wasn't breaking the rules. We were allowed to date.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
And I think the church was very wide to allow that,
right because you want to make sure that when guys
make that decision, big decision, right, when they make that decision,
that they make it clear eyed, clear hearted, all that
other good stuff. So also, Ryan, I know you'll be
very happy to see this that the new study shows
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that the well, here's the New York post headline new
survey shows how gender madness non binary was just a
fad push by radical activists. That's the take of the
New York Post. But truly, the numbers appear to be
dropping like a rock. How do you explain that, my friend,
Because in just two years, nine percent identifying on college
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campuses as non binary down to three percent. Not that
many people could have met you in those two years,
So how do you explain that?
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Just be yourself, be the person who you are that
God made and God created. And you know who told
us that when I was a little boy in seventy eight,
the very ear that you mentioned for John Paul, the Great, Yeah,
mister Rogers. Mister Rogers told all the youngsters out there,
you are perfect just the way you are. And he
didn't get preachy about it. He didn't even devote God necessarily.
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But I think you think about Dan, what a person
has to go through to become trans and all that
entails in the medical intervention, and why do that when
you can just be you?
Speaker 1 (05:25):
That's my point, you know, and I think clearly, and
we've talked about a lot, the left decided, okay that.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
This was going to be there.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Hild to die on issue, and they're dying on it.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Is pushing all.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
These kids to be non binary or trans and doing
all this other crazy stuff and making America, you know,
bend the knee, bend the knee and be willing to
say or forced to say that a man is a
woman and a woman's a man under threat of criminal
prosecution here in Colorado, under certain circumstances, under threat a
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being canceled, etc. And America has rebelled against that, which
is a beautiful.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Thing to see.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
And it's not anti anybody. It's not anti some man
who wants to identify as a woman. I don't think
there's anybody out there who cares about that a bid
I sure don't. One of the greatest people I've ever
known in my life is trans. But the point is,
don't make me lie. Don't make me lie, don't make
me say a man is a woman or a woman
is a man. Don't make anybody else lie, and stay
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away from the kids. And every person I've known who
wasn't hetero, every person I've known who wasn't hetro, has
had no interest in going out and trying to convert
the kids. So why do you have these activist groups
going out and trying to convert the kids and sexualize
the kids in kindergarten and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Well, I think the answer is.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Pretty obvious, and it ties into the bigger mission of
the left, which is they know they have to they
have to destroy the traditional American family, they have to
destroy traditional beliefs and norms and morals. They have to
get people to vote inconsistent with their faith, whatever their
faith may be. That's the only way the left wins. Yeah,
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so anyway, good to see those numbers are plummeting and
those people who just truly believe that even though they're
a biological man, they want to be a woman. You know,
God love them and wish them the best, and there's
no antipathy or anything else, as long as just don't
make people lie. No men in women's bathrooms, no men
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in women's sports, and stay away from the kids, which
is again. Have you ever met any trans person or
anybody else who was in HETRO.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Who was trying to recruit kids. I have not. I
think it's an activist group thing.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Quite the contrary, at least the circles I travel in,
the friends that I have Dan log Cabin Republicans gaze
against groomers. It's the exact opposite, because you know what
they're fighting, Dan, They're fighting a stigma from long ago
in which homosexuality was conflated with predatory behavior and pedophilia,
and that is not the case. There are people just
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happen to be gay and they're amongst adults and they
do that thing, and that's fine. But they fought against that,
DAN for so many years to gain acceptance and so
also gain the right. I know you and I might
differ on this, not sure, but for gay marriage, and
they won that battle and the Supreme Court. And when
I talk to people like Valdimar Archiletta, the former president
of the log CAWNR Republicans, he considers that a monumental
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battle one so he doesn't want to see everything they've
built crumble under the weight of this nonsense of trying
to sexualize children.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
They don't want to do that.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Yeah, And it's really interesting on multiple levels, you know, legal, political, etc.
To see this tension, this rift that's developing between some
in the gay community and some of the transactivists. And
I always try to separate out trans from transactivists because again,
the people I've known, hasn't been. Many have just wanted
to live their life right, not try to force anybody
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else to do anything but this riff because you know,
the argument and the legal argument from you know, the
gay community, including up through the US Supreme Court has been, hey,
wait a second, this isn't a choice, right, And then
the argument from the left on the trance stuff trying
to force all this stuff with kids and everything else
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is it's fluid. Gender's fluid, it can change day by day.
These things are all fluid. So yeah, there are some
real tensions there. But the bottom line is, you know,
the left has its bigger agenda with all of this,
and it uses people of color as pawns, pawns and
obviously doesn't care at all for them. In fact, abuses
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them in so many different ways legislatively and otherwise, right like,
where's our black governor, where's our female governor, where's our
Latino governor from the Democratic Party, where's our black Latino
female senator from the Democratic Party. No, no, they just
use and abuse people of color and then kick them
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in the crouch and kick their kids in the crouch
and say thank you for your vote.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
That's what the Democratic.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Party does, and that's one of the many reasons I'm
optimistic that even in Colorado, eventually we're going to be
able to flip this date because people eventually are going
to rise up and say no, I can see who
this Democratic Party really is, and I'm not going to
be abused that way anymore. You're on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
And now back to the Dan Kapla Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
For thirty six talking about weather mayor. Yeah, Imo Balata
from Colorado Springs will be getting into the governor's race
and always happy to take your calls on the governor's race.
I'm not sure we'll get any because there just hasn't
been much interest, which is starting to concern me a
little bit because we're getting pretty close to it, and
I do think there's a path. There's a chance for
the GOP to win this time around, in part because
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the Democrat candidate is going to be Michael Bennett.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
And I have never in my life met.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
A single person excited about Michael Bennett. I've met some
people who like him, and I met people who don't,
and I met a whole bunch of people who are indifferent,
But I've never met one who's excited about him, and
passion wins everything, right, including big races. That's how the
upsets happened, right, just you know, the underdog, a lot
of passion, a lot of excitement. Three all three seOne
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three eight two five five the number text d A
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you this story because this really bugs me. And one
of the reason it bugs me is because my real
job is I represent victims and wrongful death cases and
catastrophic injury cases, and so much of the carnage we
see is on you know, the highways, and it's just
so absolutely heartbreaking, right that somebody who's heading home to
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their family they don't make it. And now these kids
suddenly they don't have a mom anymore, they don't have
a dad anymore. And it's always venable, always preventable. So
when you see a state go backwards in terms of safety,
especially at a time when we've had these dramatically increased
deaths on Colorado roadway since legalization of marijuana kicked in
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back in fourteen. Legalized in twelve, but it became effective
in fourteen and boom, skyrocket number deaths. So you got
all this carnage, and you're cutting back in a major
safety tool, which is these highway cameras. How does that
make any sense? Here's the KUSA story.
Speaker 6 (12:31):
Here's a live look at conditions at the tunnel tonight for.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
No reason other than to remind you that the state.
Speaker 6 (12:37):
Has this camera system that allows us constant live looks
at our highways.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
More than one hundred.
Speaker 6 (12:42):
Those cameras, though, are now offline after a government contract
ended over the summer.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Our Revan Krugel takes us to.
Speaker 6 (12:47):
Stop a birth of pass to explain how this could
get dicey come winter. The road from Denver to winter
Park is filled with hair raising turns and when the
snow flies on u US forty locals describe it like this.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
It can get it Harry. You know, it can be
a very tricky road.
Speaker 6 (13:07):
Brian Serkvenik is the mayor of Fraser, but also runs
a transportation company driving people from the Denver airport to
Grand County.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
We are on co trip every day all day.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
Those cameras are very helpful.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
It is a little disappointing to hear that they're not
going to be.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Up this year.
Speaker 6 (13:24):
Over the summer, Sea Dots has a contract with a
company called live View ended and was not renewed. One
hundred and thirty six cameras that used to be visible online,
including five on US forty, are now offline.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
That has a big impact on us.
Speaker 6 (13:40):
Terry Martila likes to ski at winter Park and says
not being able to see this road may change those plans.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
To me, they're very important for travel, especially in the
winter and this ski season approaching.
Speaker 7 (13:53):
We understand the concern of the loss of these cameras
for a lot of the folks who rely on them,
especially in those more remote communities.
Speaker 6 (14:01):
Statia Sellers says to limit the impact, they've placed a
temporary camera at the top of birthed paths.
Speaker 7 (14:07):
The mobile setup is currently being operated via solar power,
so of course I can post some challenges and again
that's just a temporary solution.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
The camera's currently on.
Speaker 7 (14:18):
A trailer, which is in the best case scenario.
Speaker 6 (14:21):
Se Dot says it plans to replace about half of
the cameras and operate.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Them in house over the next two years.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
Seriously, we get camons before then, because I don't want
to go up two winters without cameras.
Speaker 6 (14:32):
Drivers can still view this map of road conditions but
if you prefer to see things with your own eyes,
this grainy image might be your only way.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Ryan, I'm sorry, we're two minutes into this story. I
want to know why this is a core function of government.
Why wasn't the contract renewed? Was it money? Is it
somebody's aftershave? Why wasn't it renewed?
Speaker 6 (14:56):
To see what you're driving into on birthed paths now
seatot says it still has over a thousand cameras operational
across the state, and they say a number of the
ones that are now offline were redundant because of other
cameras they already have nearby now, Kyle, they say that
company wasn't great at getting cameras back online in remote
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areas when they failed. Bringing this back in house moving
forward will be better in the long run, even if
it means a few cameras offline for the next.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
A few cameras.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
We're talking about way more than a few cameras, So
why not keep all those working until you're then.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Ready to bring it in house.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
This just doesn't make any sense to me when you're
talking about human life, and I understand. There's also the
convenience piece, which is big, but just the safety piece.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Do you ever look at those things? I look at
them all the time. For the mountains. You know, Okay,
we're gonna leave here, we're gonna leave now, we're going
to stay, We're going to do this, We're going to
do that.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
And then so you're talking about the safety of every driver,
you're talking about the safety of law enforcement out on
the road ways because when people can see the roads
are horrible and they're less likely to be out there
endangering themselves in law enforcement, texture says Dan. I bet
they're taking the cameras down because they can assist ice.
Now you're talking maybe about the Flock camera system in Denver,
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where that's been an issue. Speaking of which, one thing
on our agenda for today, Ryan, do you mind loosening
up these phones here?
Speaker 2 (16:23):
No, thank you.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
The Flock cameras in Denver. I think they're also working
through Flock and maybe a different company. But you see
where DPD now is going to be using some drones,
going to be using some drones in law enforcement now,
as I understand the story, these drones are not just
going to be constantly hovering and surveiling, but they're going
to be used for particular missions. If there's something that
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needs to be observed from the air, then they're deployed
for that particular mission.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
I have zero problem with that. I have zero problem with.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Drones just in the air constantly, unless they're making it
just a distracting, buzzing noise all the time. How about you?
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Speaker 2 (17:07):
I wonder if people, let's say.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
That we just had kind of the constant overhead drones,
so you had that constant surveillance option for law enforcement.
Would anybody have a problem with that? I love our text.
They're just so eclectic. Dan Frankie at my local convenience
stories trans and I appreciate Frankie so much.
Speaker 8 (17:32):
Dan.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Mister Rogers was a former Presbyterian minister. Dan, where is
Craig Lopez? My question is, who is Craig Lopez? Am
I forgetting somebody?
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Ryan?
Speaker 1 (17:41):
It does happen occasionally, but I don't know who. Our
text is referring to. Dan. Let the people who go
to the mountains, the small percentage of people who go
to the mountains pay for those cameras.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
I'm not sure I follow your.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Economic rationnale there, my friend, because you know, guess guess
who pays a Guess who pays all of those costs,
all of those ripple effect costs. When you have some
big fatality in the mountains, you have somebody injured for
life in a big crash in the mountains, there's so
much cost to society directing indirect from these catastrophes on
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the roadway.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
You know, whether we're talking about public subsidy, a subsidy of.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Medical bills, whether we're talking about Okay, now the bread
winner for a family is dead because of a crash,
and now the family goes on public assistance. You know,
if you're just looking at it economically, and I submit
the more important way to look at it is you mainly.
But if you're looking at it economically, yeah, it is
a much better economic deal for society to prevent those
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crashes to begin with.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
You're on the Dan Capture Show.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast Wayne Logison.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
It's always great to talk to Wayne. He knows everything
that's going on everywhere all the time. He's host of
the creatively named Wayne's Word.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Wayne. Welcome back to the Dan kapla show.
Speaker 9 (19:14):
Dan, thanks for having me on, really appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
And how do people how do people tune into Wayne's Word?
Speaker 9 (19:21):
Well, the best way is to just go on any
browser to Wayne'sword dot co as in Colorado dot com
so Wayne'sword dot co. And I would encourage everyone to
watch the show on YouTube since they don't distribute us much.
Apparently they don't like center right content, so I'm trying
to boost the number. We do very well on a
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lot of other platforms.
Speaker 10 (19:44):
So if everyone could scroll down at.
Speaker 9 (19:46):
Wayne'sword dot co to the YouTube link and then subscribe,
that would be a big help to the show.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Yeah, please do it and you'll be glad you did.
Wayne always has something interesting going on, and most recently
it is the mayor of Colorado's brings you a mobilatte who? Yeah,
fill us in on that. I mean that the buzz
out there is he may be getting in the governor's race.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Tell us about the interview.
Speaker 10 (20:09):
Yeah, I had a really nice interview.
Speaker 9 (20:11):
Who was the second time we've had him in as
a podcast host. He's a different kind of mayor that
I've never seen anything quite like it. Now, I'm not
saying that in terms of like a full on endorsement
of him or anything, but it's just a different style.
He is pretty much an eighth mayor who focuses on
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pragmatic solutions to real problems. And so I think a
lot of people thought when he got elected that he
was going to be, you know, some sort of a
left wing mayor liberal Democrat, and that just simply hasn't
turned out to be the case at all. I think
that's stereotyping because he's black, he's an African immigrant, But
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he's not right wing either. He's just a pragmatic person
who cares a lot about crime and holes and the things,
and not having fifty thousand illegal immigrants living in tents
and you know in our parts.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Well, since you mentioned pot holes, what's his position on
legalized pot?
Speaker 9 (21:13):
Well, Colorado Springs recently just last year. No, it's just
this year past recreational marijuana sales so overnight there were
more than one hundred stores that were eligible to sell
pot recreation for recreation as opposed to medicinally, and he
was opposed to it. He came out against it. I
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was writing editorial for the Gazette at the time, and
he talked to us about it, and he was very
much against it, and now he's even more so against it,
I think than when he was opposing it in the
first place.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Good, let me play a little sound from Wayne's interview
with j mobilat you can pick it up on Wayne's word.
Speaker 11 (21:53):
Miss Sam Shoots has been such a blessing to all
state And in this annual meeting, three of those leaders
at the Republican leaders, when are you going to run
for governor? When I meet with Denver state leaders, they said,
when are you going to run for governor? And I
think what they see in me is someone that's just practical,
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like what and I think Colorado is probably when you
mentioned I think most of us are unaffiliated or independence
and you see that as people detached from the political identities.
What they're really saying is we just care about our
safety and our quality of life.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
So, Wayne, it sounds like the Maryor has received a
lot of encouragement from prominent Republicans to run for governor.
Do you think he is going to run and if
he does, will it definitely be as a Republican?
Speaker 9 (22:47):
No, I think that there's a good chance that he
will run. I don't think he'll run as a Republican.
I think he would run as an unaffiliated and try
to be the first unaffiliated that governor elected in Colorado.
Isn't a huge stretch given the fact that unaffiliated voters
of course outnumber Republicans and Democrats in the state, and
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so I think that's how he would run. I don't
I can't imagine that he would choose a party interesting
and just not that political.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
And you've you've seen it all. Do you think, bottom line,
that he could win as an unaffiliated.
Speaker 9 (23:23):
I think it's possible. I think it's a long shot.
I mean, is a that would be a huge uphill battle,
But I think it's possible. Of course, as you know, Dan,
it all depends on what events happened between now and then.
You know what kind of factors measure into the gubernatorial race.
Speaker 10 (23:42):
Well, I think it's possible. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (23:43):
So I think he's very appealing and I think once
people get to know him that they really like him.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Well, we've certainly enjoyed him on the show and the
fact that, let me ask Crin, I think his comms
director reached out to you, Is.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
That right, Ryan, that's correct, He'll be on Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Yeah, that would suggest to me he's running, right, I mean,
if his comms director is reaching out to you, and
and so I think if an unaffiliated's ever going to win,
an independent win it it would seem that it would
be now because you know, Democrats dominate the state, right,
and they're presumed candidate Michael Bennett. You know, it's not
a pejorative if there's just a zero excitement factor for him,
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including among Democrats.
Speaker 9 (24:21):
And so with Michael Bennett when he ran for president
in Colorado, he did not get one percent, sup, you
could not pull at one percent. That's how little and
nobody is enthused.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
But not good for the egos.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Yeah, yeah, So that would seem to open the door
now on the GOP side. And again Wayne's word is
always kind of wired into what's happening on the GOP side.
Who's likely to be the nominee? So what would the
landscape be for Mapela is a unaffiliated independent candidate for governor.
Speaker 10 (25:00):
I think what You've got a guy.
Speaker 9 (25:03):
Named Victor Marx who is running. He's a very incany's goal.
He'll run as a Republican. He's a very interesting candidate.
But the former district attorney in Douglas County helped me
out in Douglas. George Brockla Yeah, but okay, he's in
a different juditional district though he than he was before.
Speaker 10 (25:24):
That's why.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Yeah, used to be a rapo and now he's Douglas right.
Speaker 9 (25:28):
Yeah, So George Brockler, I think is probably the best
card in the deck that the Republicans point.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
George would be dynamite. I just haven't heard that he
might get in the race. Is that the buzz?
Speaker 3 (25:42):
That's the buzz.
Speaker 9 (25:42):
That's what I'm hearing.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Man. I'm going to text him right now. I'm tick
because I text with him all the time. We're texting
about all sorts of stuff, and he has not told
me that. So I'm going to chew him out while
we speak. My friend, but that's fascinating to me.
Speaker 9 (25:57):
Get me in trouble.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
No, I'm gonna say only, yeah, you're in a multitase.
Speaker 9 (26:03):
I don't have any inside scoop or anything, but I
know that he's you know, he's somebody who's often mentioned
and would be that would be a pretty good hand.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Oh she don't dynyway.
Speaker 9 (26:11):
People are very, very tired of crime in this state.
It come to be that you know, I've been here
just over thirty years, and it was about one of
the safest states in the country when I moved here
from Washington, d C. In nineteen ninety three. Now it is,
based on data that compiled by US.
Speaker 10 (26:30):
News and World Report, we're.
Speaker 9 (26:31):
The second most dangerous state in the country in terms
of crime. Yeah, well, this is this is what Republicans
need to run on.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
I just texted him. Wayne just said on air, you
may get into the governor's race.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
I hope that's true. What's the scoop? So we'll see
what he writes back.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
But yeah, I think George would be appealing in so
many ways. And you're right.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Crime is the starting point, because that's everybody's kind of
primal concern, all of us, right, But then beyond that,
I just think George brings a ton to the table.
And what I like is I like per selfishly, right.
I like to get a lot of talent into a primary,
like a GOP primary, and then let the best man
(27:15):
or woman emerge. And as long as it's not a
Bill Prey Holtzmann kind of primary, then then hopefully your
candidate has been sharpened by you know, fire and iron
and is ready to go out there and take their
best shot.
Speaker 9 (27:31):
Yeah, that you know that there's something needs to change
in this state. It is if people don't know that
we are in big trouble, they're either not paying attention,
it just hasn't hit them personally. At every economic factor,
I mean, all measurable fat, cultural and economic data show
(27:53):
that this state is in a steady and swift decline.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Well, don't you think, my friend, And don't you think
it's like say, a really really bad marriage, where people
just know it's horrible, but they just assume it's the
way it's always going to be. I think that's where
Colorado is with the Democrats right now.
Speaker 8 (28:15):
They just they know it always works, that they know
it's a decline, but they just figure that's the way
it's always going to be and it's not going to change,
so they don't even get interested in whether it can change.
Speaker 9 (28:29):
Yeah, and that's very sad to hear, because I think
you're right. You look at socialist countries that have that
have fallen in great distance Venezuela, everybody there should be rejecting,
resoundingly rejecting.
Speaker 10 (28:44):
Socialism because of what it's done to them.
Speaker 9 (28:46):
The inflation rate you know, a thousands of percent inflation rates. Uh,
it's just it's a hellhole and people have made their
peace with it. Yeah, you know, there's not a revolution
going on, and I don't understand why. Well, maybe you know,
We'll not I'm saying we've turned into a total socialist
(29:08):
state or anything, but I'm saying that, Yeah, people do.
They sort of becomes a new normal and they accept it.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Right, But if they.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Think there's real hope, Right, if they were to look
at the GOP or let's say y Mumblati runs is
an unaffiliated and he's getting traction, and they think, hey,
there's a chance, then maybe they get excited about it
and perk up and hey, Wayne, can you go another segment? Yeah, okay, great,
let's do that. Wayne Loguson is with us. From wayne'sword
(29:36):
George Brockler, had you heard that right that he might
get in.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
George told me the exact.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
We'll see if he answers my text. You're on the
Dan Capla Show.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
And now back to the Dan Kapla Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
It's Wayne Wayne Loguson of wayne'sword I think is getting
back with us right now. So interesting, Wayne did this
interview with Jemmy Mobilatte, the mayor of Colorado Springs, Colorado,
and it sounds like he may be on the verge
of getting in the governor's race. Now, Wayne, you're telling
us it would be as an independent, right, he would
(30:15):
run as an independent? Can you remember, Wayne, there's one
name that pops out. I can't remember it. The best
performance ever by an independent candidate for governor in Colorado
that the guy's name's on the tip of my tongue
and I can't remember it, but it wasn't it wasn't
that impressive?
Speaker 9 (30:35):
Yeah, I'm not Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I may be
mixing it up. I may be thinking of run, Yeah yeah,
I mean. And Tom tan Credo is the closest person
whoever came within striking distance of winning the governor's race,
not being a Republican.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Or a Democrat on the ticket during the Dan Mays Fiesta.
Speaker 9 (30:54):
Yeah that's right.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Yeah, yeah, no, that's right. But so we've been talking
with Wayne about that.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Now you can dial into Wayne at Wayne's Word dot
co dot com, and then be sure to subscribe to
the YouTube channel so you can.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
See the show as well.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
And now, when we went to break, we were talking
about the governor's race overall, and a quick recap is
my premise is with Michael Bennaby and the presumptive dem
nominee and there being sub zero excitement for Bennett, plenty
of money and structural support this and that, but very
little excitement. This might be a rare opportunity for an
impressive independent to maybe have a shot. But the Republican side,
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who's going to emerge as a nominee? And that's where
Wayne was saying, he's heard that George Brockler might get
into the race and so waiting to hear back from
George on that. Any other names not already in Wayne,
And what's your take on the current GOP field. You
mentioned Victor Marx and hey, he sounds fascinating and we're
trying to get him on air.
Speaker 9 (31:53):
Yeah, he's I think he's a he's going to be
a strong candidate. And then you have the sheriff running
from next door to El Paso County. Yeah, he's getting
He's definitely in the race. He's an interesting prospect. But
if you look at this Forbes article that came out
about sometime last week, let's see it was dated October
(32:16):
five and it says, reliably, Bluke, this is based on
a poll, reliably blue. Colorado has seen a dramatic political shift.
We're injecting democratic policies, suggesting a long time blue state
maybe in play for Republicans for the first time in
nearly two decades. And then it goes on to talk
about the poll results and it says on the Republican side,
(32:38):
the poll revealed that of the declared and likely candidate,
it's only longtime district Attorney George Brockler stands a viable
chance of pulling off one of the nation's biggest political
upsets in twenty twenty six. And he came in at
thirty three percent. Victor Marx came in at about fifteen percent.
So if there's a wrong contender for the on the
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Republican side and the Democrats are running Bennett who again,
you know, nobody's excited about that, not even the Democrats,
then you're going to have I think, you know, if
it's a competitive race among the Democrats and Republicans, yes,
I think an independent could come in and shock the country.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Now, yeah, go ahead, yeah, would Jimmy Mobilaty take more
from the Democrats or the Republicans.
Speaker 9 (33:35):
I think that he would take let's see, I think
he would get a strong support from the Democrats, from
the sort of moderate Democrats. He would get a lot
of support from the unaffiliateds, and I think he would
get some support from Republicans. I mean, he has a
pretty good record to run on as a you know,
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if he were a Republican, to appeal to Republicans in that.
This is a man who's hired some three hundred new cops.
You know, we have the biggest police force in Colorado
Springs history right now.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
That's smart he has.
Speaker 9 (34:10):
He has adamantly rejected the idea that illegal immigrants are
welcome here and that the city has anything to offer them.
He has come out against you know, this drug bonanza
that we have going on. I think he's I think
there's a lot of appeal. Now he's not going to
appeal to far right Republicans.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Hey, well, let me ask you, because we're up against
the clock the life issue, where's he at on the
life issue?
Speaker 9 (34:37):
You know, I didn't ask him that directly. I suspect
that he is pro life.
Speaker 10 (34:45):
This is a man, he's a he's been a Christian minister,
he grew up in.
Speaker 9 (34:50):
Nigeria, which is a lot of what forms the basis
for how he runs the city. He has been in
a lawless environment. I have visited there, and you know,
they don't hopefully fash top so once they do have. Yeah, exactly,
And he addresses that in the podcast at Waynesword dot Co.
(35:11):
So he I think he has a huge reverence for life. Yeah,
of course that's not an issue anyone ever wants to
run on.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Yeah, but I don't think it helps.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
It runs from it.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
I mean I know I don't either.
Speaker 9 (35:25):
I don't either, and I don't think anyone should.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Yeah, Hey, Wayne, really, I really appreciate the time. I
hope we talk off and now congrats on Wayne's Word.
Hope everyone goes to Wayne Ward's dot Wayne'sword dot Co
and subscribes to the YouTube.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Channel as well.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Thank you, my friend, look forward to the next one.
Speaker 9 (35:42):
Thank you very much, Stanning, big congratulations on the winning bluebook.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Thank you my friend for that. Oh amen, thank you
my friend. Really appreciate it. I felt it was very
much a god thing. And back in a flash on
the Dan Kapla Show,
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
Beutif to say, to fight for truth, justice and the
American way.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
It seems like yesterday he was sitting right there could
reach out and touch him, and today he's indicted. John
Bolton the latest to be indicted, and so we'll have
some of the details on that for you. But as
you know, it doesn't really get interesting until we get
deeper into the case and actually, you know, get into
the motions and tour the trial. When we get more
(00:39):
of the meat, more of the meat on the bone,
my sense is probably more indictments to come. Three all three, seven, one,
three eight, two five five. The number takes d an
five seven, seven, three nine. The text already flowing fast
and furious. We do appreciate that we're going to have
another entrant into the Colorado Governor's race pretty soon. The
(01:01):
question will be who's not in the race, But that's great.
I think the more the better. And so we're going
to be talking with Wayne Logson does a great job
at the Colorado Springs set if you're new to the area,
if you're new to the area and you're just figuring out, Okay,
where do I get my media. You've got these two
great papers, Colorado Springs Gazette and the Denver Gazette.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
And they are operated at a very very high level.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
I don't know, I haven't checked Ryan if they're still
owned by phil Anshoots, but they're operated at a very
high level, and so I would put those on your
daily must do list. So Wayne is the editorial pages
editor there and he's going to join us at four
thirty six. He had interviewed the mayor of Colorado Springs,
them Mobilatti, who is going to join us as well
(01:44):
in a few days. Anyway, I want to get Wayne's
take on that interview. We'll have some of the sound.
But the big question of whether y Emmy is going
to enter the governor's race, and if so, which party
is he or none at all? Is he going to
be an independent candidate for governor in Colorado? And I'd
love to get your take, whether it's tied to Yemma
or somebody else, whether you think an independent candidate for
(02:07):
governor could win in Colorado as the post obviously Democrat
or Republican three H three seven one three A two
five five tags D A N five seven seven three
nine and so much we have to do locally today,
which I always enjoy. But I do want to talk
about se DOT, you know, cutting out all these cameras,
(02:28):
all these these highway cameras, all these cameras.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
In the mountains.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Well, we'll play a KUSA story on that. And you know,
government should have some basic core functions, and one of
those should be those cameras, those roadway cameras, those cameras
in the mountains, but not to be, not to be,
those are being cut. Did you realize, Ryan, it was
this day in nineteen seventy eight, But you weren't born yet,
(02:53):
were you. Oh yeah, I was four this day and no,
Well then you'll remember this when Pope John Paul the Great,
I do remember Paul the Great, Yeah, was introduced his
pub Oh well he's up there.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Peter was pretty good.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
He was the original d og though.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
He was pretty good.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, And I liked the new guy a lot.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
You do, wow, your Chicago guy.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Yeah, But but I mean, he's and how weird to think.
I know, we're in seminary at the same time. His
parish is a few miles down the road from my seminary,
but he goes to a different seminary.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Could have been you guys were together far off.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Which would have ruined him, ruined him or made you.
It would have ruined him, My friend.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Yeah, we we probably had a little too much feminine
influence at our seminary, but it was a great seminary
and I was very, very lucky to be there. Three
or three someone three eight, two, five, five takes d
a N five seven, seventh through nine. What I mean
by feminine influence is we were allowed to date when
I spent those four years in the Catholic seminary in
(03:53):
high school.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
And I wasn't breaking the rules. We were allowed to date.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
And I think the church was very wide to allow that,
right because you want to make sure that when guys
make that decision, big decision, right, when they make that decision,
that they make it clear eyed, clear hearted, all that
other good stuff. So also, Ryan, I know you'll be
very happy to see this that the new study shows
(04:19):
that the well, here's the New York post headline new
survey shows how gender madness non binary was just a
fad push by radical activists. That's the take of the
New York Post. But truly, the numbers appear to be
dropping like a rock. How do you explain that, my friend,
Because in just two years, nine percent identifying on college
(04:42):
campuses as non binary down to three percent. Not that
many people could have met you in those two years,
So how do you explain that?
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Just be yourself, be the person who you are that
God made and God created. And you know who told
us that when I was a little boy in seventy eight,
the very ear that you mentioned for John Paul, the Great, Yeah,
mister Rogers. Mister Rogers told all the youngsters out there,
you are perfect just the way you are. And he
didn't get preachy about it. He didn't even devote God necessarily.
(05:13):
But I think you think about Dan, what a person
has to go through to become trans and all that
entails in the medical intervention, and why do that when
you can just be you?
Speaker 1 (05:25):
That's my point, you know, and I think clearly, and
we've talked about a lot, the left decided, okay that.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
This was going to be there.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Hild to die on issue, and they're dying on it.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Is pushing all.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
These kids to be non binary or trans and doing
all this other crazy stuff and making America, you know,
bend the knee, bend the knee and be willing to
say or forced to say that a man is a
woman and a woman's a man under threat of criminal
prosecution here in Colorado, under certain circumstances, under threat a
(06:00):
being canceled, etc. And America has rebelled against that, which
is a beautiful.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Thing to see.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
And it's not anti anybody. It's not anti some man
who wants to identify as a woman. I don't think
there's anybody out there who cares about that a bid
I sure don't. One of the greatest people I've ever
known in my life is trans. But the point is,
don't make me lie. Don't make me lie, don't make
me say a man is a woman or a woman
is a man. Don't make anybody else lie, and stay
(06:28):
away from the kids. And every person I've known who
wasn't hetero, every person I've known who wasn't hetro, has
had no interest in going out and trying to convert
the kids. So why do you have these activist groups
going out and trying to convert the kids and sexualize
the kids in kindergarten and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Well, I think the answer is.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Pretty obvious, and it ties into the bigger mission of
the left, which is they know they have to they
have to destroy the traditional American family, they have to
destroy traditional beliefs and norms and morals. They have to
get people to vote inconsistent with their faith, whatever their
faith may be. That's the only way the left wins. Yeah,
(07:09):
so anyway, good to see those numbers are plummeting and
those people who just truly believe that even though they're
a biological man, they want to be a woman. You know,
God love them and wish them the best, and there's
no antipathy or anything else, as long as just don't
make people lie. No men in women's bathrooms, no men
(07:33):
in women's sports, and stay away from the kids, which
is again. Have you ever met any trans person or
anybody else who was in HETRO.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Who was trying to recruit kids. I have not. I
think it's an activist group thing.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Quite the contrary, at least the circles I travel in,
the friends that I have Dan log Cabin Republicans gaze
against groomers. It's the exact opposite, because you know what
they're fighting, Dan, They're fighting a stigma from long ago
in which homosexuality was conflated with predatory behavior and pedophilia,
and that is not the case. There are people just
(08:08):
happen to be gay and they're amongst adults and they
do that thing, and that's fine. But they fought against that,
DAN for so many years to gain acceptance and so
also gain the right. I know you and I might
differ on this, not sure, but for gay marriage, and
they won that battle and the Supreme Court. And when
I talk to people like Valdimar Archiletta, the former president
of the log CAWNR Republicans, he considers that a monumental
(08:30):
battle one so he doesn't want to see everything they've
built crumble under the weight of this nonsense of trying
to sexualize children.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
They don't want to do that.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Yeah, And it's really interesting on multiple levels, you know, legal, political, etc.
To see this tension, this rift that's developing between some
in the gay community and some of the transactivists. And
I always try to separate out trans from transactivists because again,
the people I've known, hasn't been. Many have just wanted
to live their life right, not try to force anybody
(09:03):
else to do anything but this riff because you know,
the argument and the legal argument from you know, the
gay community, including up through the US Supreme Court has been, hey,
wait a second, this isn't a choice, right, And then
the argument from the left on the trance stuff trying
to force all this stuff with kids and everything else
(09:25):
is it's fluid. Gender's fluid, it can change day by day.
These things are all fluid. So yeah, there are some
real tensions there. But the bottom line is, you know,
the left has its bigger agenda with all of this,
and it uses people of color as pawns, pawns and
obviously doesn't care at all for them. In fact, abuses
(09:45):
them in so many different ways legislatively and otherwise, right like,
where's our black governor, where's our female governor, where's our
Latino governor from the Democratic Party, where's our black Latino
female senator from the Democratic Party. No, no, they just
use and abuse people of color and then kick them
(10:06):
in the crouch and kick their kids in the crouch
and say thank you for your vote.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
That's what the Democratic.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Party does, and that's one of the many reasons I'm
optimistic that even in Colorado, eventually we're going to be
able to flip this date because people eventually are going
to rise up and say no, I can see who
this Democratic Party really is, and I'm not going to
be abused that way anymore. You're on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
And now back to the Dan Kapla Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
For thirty six talking about weather mayor. Yeah, Imo Balata
from Colorado Springs will be getting into the governor's race
and always happy to take your calls on the governor's race.
I'm not sure we'll get any because there just hasn't
been much interest, which is starting to concern me a
little bit because we're getting pretty close to it, and
I do think there's a path. There's a chance for
the GOP to win this time around, in part because
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the Democrat candidate is going to be Michael Bennett.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
And I have never in my life met.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
A single person excited about Michael Bennett. I've met some
people who like him, and I met people who don't,
and I met a whole bunch of people who are indifferent,
But I've never met one who's excited about him, and
passion wins everything, right, including big races. That's how the
upsets happened, right, just you know, the underdog, a lot
of passion, a lot of excitement. Three all three seOne
(11:29):
three eight two five five the number text d A
N five seven seven three. Now I want to get
you this story because this really bugs me. And one
of the reason it bugs me is because my real
job is I represent victims and wrongful death cases and
catastrophic injury cases, and so much of the carnage we
see is on you know, the highways, and it's just
so absolutely heartbreaking, right that somebody who's heading home to
(11:53):
their family they don't make it. And now these kids
suddenly they don't have a mom anymore, they don't have
a dad anymore. And it's always venable, always preventable. So
when you see a state go backwards in terms of safety,
especially at a time when we've had these dramatically increased
deaths on Colorado roadway since legalization of marijuana kicked in
(12:15):
back in fourteen. Legalized in twelve, but it became effective
in fourteen and boom, skyrocket number deaths. So you got
all this carnage, and you're cutting back in a major
safety tool, which is these highway cameras. How does that
make any sense? Here's the KUSA story.
Speaker 6 (12:31):
Here's a live look at conditions at the tunnel tonight for.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
No reason other than to remind you that the state.
Speaker 6 (12:37):
Has this camera system that allows us constant live looks
at our highways.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
More than one hundred.
Speaker 6 (12:42):
Those cameras, though, are now offline after a government contract
ended over the summer.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Our Revan Krugel takes us to.
Speaker 6 (12:47):
Stop a birth of pass to explain how this could
get dicey come winter. The road from Denver to winter
Park is filled with hair raising turns and when the
snow flies on u US forty locals describe it like this.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
It can get it Harry. You know, it can be
a very tricky road.
Speaker 6 (13:07):
Brian Serkvenik is the mayor of Fraser, but also runs
a transportation company driving people from the Denver airport to
Grand County.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
We are on co trip every day all day.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
Those cameras are very helpful.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
It is a little disappointing to hear that they're not
going to be.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Up this year.
Speaker 6 (13:24):
Over the summer, Sea Dots has a contract with a
company called live View ended and was not renewed. One
hundred and thirty six cameras that used to be visible online,
including five on US forty, are now offline.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
That has a big impact on us.
Speaker 6 (13:40):
Terry Martila likes to ski at winter Park and says
not being able to see this road may change those plans.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
To me, they're very important for travel, especially in the
winter and this ski season approaching.
Speaker 7 (13:53):
We understand the concern of the loss of these cameras
for a lot of the folks who rely on them,
especially in those more remote communities.
Speaker 6 (14:01):
Statia Sellers says to limit the impact, they've placed a
temporary camera at the top of birthed paths.
Speaker 7 (14:07):
The mobile setup is currently being operated via solar power,
so of course I can post some challenges and again
that's just a temporary solution.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
The camera's currently on.
Speaker 7 (14:18):
A trailer, which is in the best case scenario.
Speaker 6 (14:21):
Se Dot says it plans to replace about half of
the cameras and operate.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Them in house over the next two years.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
Seriously, we get camons before then, because I don't want
to go up two winters without cameras.
Speaker 6 (14:32):
Drivers can still view this map of road conditions but
if you prefer to see things with your own eyes,
this grainy image might be your only way.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Ryan, I'm sorry, we're two minutes into this story. I
want to know why this is a core function of government.
Why wasn't the contract renewed? Was it money? Is it
somebody's aftershave? Why wasn't it renewed?
Speaker 6 (14:56):
To see what you're driving into on birthed paths now
seatot says it still has over a thousand cameras operational
across the state, and they say a number of the
ones that are now offline were redundant because of other
cameras they already have nearby now, Kyle, they say that
company wasn't great at getting cameras back online in remote
(15:17):
areas when they failed. Bringing this back in house moving
forward will be better in the long run, even if
it means a few cameras offline for the next.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
A few cameras.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
We're talking about way more than a few cameras, So
why not keep all those working until you're then.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Ready to bring it in house.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
This just doesn't make any sense to me when you're
talking about human life, and I understand. There's also the
convenience piece, which is big, but just the safety piece.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Do you ever look at those things? I look at
them all the time. For the mountains. You know, Okay,
we're gonna leave here, we're gonna leave now, we're going
to stay, We're going to do this, We're going to
do that.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
And then so you're talking about the safety of every driver,
you're talking about the safety of law enforcement out on
the road ways because when people can see the roads
are horrible and they're less likely to be out there
endangering themselves in law enforcement, texture says Dan. I bet
they're taking the cameras down because they can assist ice.
Now you're talking maybe about the Flock camera system in Denver,
(16:16):
where that's been an issue. Speaking of which, one thing
on our agenda for today, Ryan, do you mind loosening
up these phones here?
Speaker 2 (16:23):
No, thank you.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
The Flock cameras in Denver. I think they're also working
through Flock and maybe a different company. But you see
where DPD now is going to be using some drones,
going to be using some drones in law enforcement now,
as I understand the story, these drones are not just
going to be constantly hovering and surveiling, but they're going
to be used for particular missions. If there's something that
(16:47):
needs to be observed from the air, then they're deployed
for that particular mission.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
I have zero problem with that. I have zero problem with.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Drones just in the air constantly, unless they're making it
just a distracting, buzzing noise all the time. How about you?
Three or three seOne three eight, two five five text
d An five seven, seven three nine.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
I wonder if people, let's say.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
That we just had kind of the constant overhead drones,
so you had that constant surveillance option for law enforcement.
Would anybody have a problem with that? I love our text.
They're just so eclectic. Dan Frankie at my local convenience
stories trans and I appreciate Frankie so much.
Speaker 8 (17:32):
Dan.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Mister Rogers was a former Presbyterian minister. Dan, where is
Craig Lopez? My question is, who is Craig Lopez? Am
I forgetting somebody?
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Ryan?
Speaker 1 (17:41):
It does happen occasionally, but I don't know who. Our
text is referring to. Dan. Let the people who go
to the mountains, the small percentage of people who go
to the mountains pay for those cameras.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
I'm not sure I follow your.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Economic rationnale there, my friend, because you know, guess guess
who pays a Guess who pays all of those costs,
all of those ripple effect costs. When you have some
big fatality in the mountains, you have somebody injured for
life in a big crash in the mountains, there's so
much cost to society directing indirect from these catastrophes on
(18:20):
the roadway.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
You know, whether we're talking about public subsidy, a subsidy of.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Medical bills, whether we're talking about Okay, now the bread
winner for a family is dead because of a crash,
and now the family goes on public assistance. You know,
if you're just looking at it economically, and I submit
the more important way to look at it is you mainly.
But if you're looking at it economically, yeah, it is
a much better economic deal for society to prevent those
(18:46):
crashes to begin with.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
You're on the Dan Capture Show.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast Wayne Logison.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
It's always great to talk to Wayne. He knows everything
that's going on everywhere all the time. He's host of
the creatively named Wayne's Word.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Wayne. Welcome back to the Dan kapla show.
Speaker 9 (19:14):
Dan, thanks for having me on, really appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
And how do people how do people tune into Wayne's Word?
Speaker 9 (19:21):
Well, the best way is to just go on any
browser to Wayne'sword dot co as in Colorado dot com
so Wayne'sword dot co. And I would encourage everyone to
watch the show on YouTube since they don't distribute us much.
Apparently they don't like center right content, so I'm trying
to boost the number. We do very well on a
(19:43):
lot of other platforms.
Speaker 10 (19:44):
So if everyone could scroll down at.
Speaker 9 (19:46):
Wayne'sword dot co to the YouTube link and then subscribe,
that would be a big help to the show.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Yeah, please do it and you'll be glad you did.
Wayne always has something interesting going on, and most recently
it is the mayor of Colorado's brings you a mobilatte who? Yeah,
fill us in on that. I mean that the buzz
out there is he may be getting in the governor's race.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Tell us about the interview.
Speaker 10 (20:09):
Yeah, I had a really nice interview.
Speaker 9 (20:11):
Who was the second time we've had him in as
a podcast host. He's a different kind of mayor that
I've never seen anything quite like it. Now, I'm not
saying that in terms of like a full on endorsement
of him or anything, but it's just a different style.
He is pretty much an eighth mayor who focuses on
(20:32):
pragmatic solutions to real problems. And so I think a
lot of people thought when he got elected that he
was going to be, you know, some sort of a
left wing mayor liberal Democrat, and that just simply hasn't
turned out to be the case at all. I think
that's stereotyping because he's black, he's an African immigrant, But
(20:53):
he's not right wing either. He's just a pragmatic person
who cares a lot about crime and holes and the things,
and not having fifty thousand illegal immigrants living in tents
and you know in our parts.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Well, since you mentioned pot holes, what's his position on
legalized pot?
Speaker 9 (21:13):
Well, Colorado Springs recently just last year. No, it's just
this year past recreational marijuana sales so overnight there were
more than one hundred stores that were eligible to sell
pot recreation for recreation as opposed to medicinally, and he
was opposed to it. He came out against it. I
(21:35):
was writing editorial for the Gazette at the time, and
he talked to us about it, and he was very
much against it, and now he's even more so against it,
I think than when he was opposing it in the
first place.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Good, let me play a little sound from Wayne's interview
with j mobilat you can pick it up on Wayne's word.
Speaker 11 (21:53):
Miss Sam Shoots has been such a blessing to all
state And in this annual meeting, three of those leaders
at the Republican leaders, when are you going to run
for governor? When I meet with Denver state leaders, they said,
when are you going to run for governor? And I
think what they see in me is someone that's just practical,
(22:13):
like what and I think Colorado is probably when you
mentioned I think most of us are unaffiliated or independence
and you see that as people detached from the political identities.
What they're really saying is we just care about our
safety and our quality of life.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
So, Wayne, it sounds like the Maryor has received a
lot of encouragement from prominent Republicans to run for governor.
Do you think he is going to run and if
he does, will it definitely be as a Republican?
Speaker 9 (22:47):
No, I think that there's a good chance that he
will run. I don't think he'll run as a Republican.
I think he would run as an unaffiliated and try
to be the first unaffiliated that governor elected in Colorado.
Isn't a huge stretch given the fact that unaffiliated voters
of course outnumber Republicans and Democrats in the state, and
(23:08):
so I think that's how he would run. I don't
I can't imagine that he would choose a party interesting
and just not that political.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
And you've you've seen it all. Do you think, bottom line,
that he could win as an unaffiliated.
Speaker 9 (23:23):
I think it's possible. I think it's a long shot.
I mean, is a that would be a huge uphill battle,
But I think it's possible. Of course, as you know, Dan,
it all depends on what events happened between now and then.
You know what kind of factors measure into the gubernatorial race.
Speaker 10 (23:42):
Well, I think it's possible. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (23:43):
So I think he's very appealing and I think once
people get to know him that they really like him.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Well, we've certainly enjoyed him on the show and the
fact that, let me ask Crin, I think his comms
director reached out to you, Is.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
That right, Ryan, that's correct, He'll be on Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Yeah, that would suggest to me he's running, right, I mean,
if his comms director is reaching out to you, and
and so I think if an unaffiliated's ever going to win,
an independent win it it would seem that it would
be now because you know, Democrats dominate the state, right,
and they're presumed candidate Michael Bennett. You know, it's not
a pejorative if there's just a zero excitement factor for him,
(24:19):
including among Democrats.
Speaker 9 (24:21):
And so with Michael Bennett when he ran for president
in Colorado, he did not get one percent, sup, you
could not pull at one percent. That's how little and
nobody is enthused.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
But not good for the egos.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Yeah, yeah, So that would seem to open the door
now on the GOP side. And again Wayne's word is
always kind of wired into what's happening on the GOP side.
Who's likely to be the nominee? So what would the
landscape be for Mapela is a unaffiliated independent candidate for governor.
Speaker 10 (25:00):
I think what You've got a guy.
Speaker 9 (25:03):
Named Victor Marx who is running. He's a very incany's goal.
He'll run as a Republican. He's a very interesting candidate.
But the former district attorney in Douglas County helped me
out in Douglas. George Brockla Yeah, but okay, he's in
a different juditional district though he than he was before.
Speaker 10 (25:24):
That's why.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Yeah, used to be a rapo and now he's Douglas right.
Speaker 9 (25:28):
Yeah, So George Brockler, I think is probably the best
card in the deck that the Republicans point.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
George would be dynamite. I just haven't heard that he
might get in the race. Is that the buzz?
Speaker 3 (25:42):
That's the buzz.
Speaker 9 (25:42):
That's what I'm hearing.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Man. I'm going to text him right now. I'm tick
because I text with him all the time. We're texting
about all sorts of stuff, and he has not told
me that. So I'm going to chew him out while
we speak. My friend, but that's fascinating to me.
Speaker 9 (25:57):
Get me in trouble.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
No, I'm gonna say only, yeah, you're in a multitase.
Speaker 9 (26:03):
I don't have any inside scoop or anything, but I
know that he's you know, he's somebody who's often mentioned
and would be that would be a pretty good hand.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Oh she don't dynyway.
Speaker 9 (26:11):
People are very, very tired of crime in this state.
It come to be that you know, I've been here
just over thirty years, and it was about one of
the safest states in the country when I moved here
from Washington, d C. In nineteen ninety three. Now it is,
based on data that compiled by US.
Speaker 10 (26:30):
News and World Report, we're.
Speaker 9 (26:31):
The second most dangerous state in the country in terms
of crime. Yeah, well, this is this is what Republicans
need to run on.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
I just texted him. Wayne just said on air, you
may get into the governor's race.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
I hope that's true. What's the scoop? So we'll see
what he writes back.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
But yeah, I think George would be appealing in so
many ways. And you're right.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Crime is the starting point, because that's everybody's kind of
primal concern, all of us, right, But then beyond that,
I just think George brings a ton to the table.
And what I like is I like per selfishly, right.
I like to get a lot of talent into a primary,
like a GOP primary, and then let the best man
(27:15):
or woman emerge. And as long as it's not a
Bill Prey Holtzmann kind of primary, then then hopefully your
candidate has been sharpened by you know, fire and iron
and is ready to go out there and take their
best shot.
Speaker 9 (27:31):
Yeah, that you know that there's something needs to change
in this state. It is if people don't know that
we are in big trouble, they're either not paying attention,
it just hasn't hit them personally. At every economic factor,
I mean, all measurable fat, cultural and economic data show
(27:53):
that this state is in a steady and swift decline.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Well, don't you think, my friend, And don't you think
it's like say, a really really bad marriage, where people
just know it's horrible, but they just assume it's the
way it's always going to be. I think that's where
Colorado is with the Democrats right now.
Speaker 8 (28:15):
They just they know it always works, that they know
it's a decline, but they just figure that's the way
it's always going to be and it's not going to change,
so they don't even get interested in whether it can change.
Speaker 9 (28:29):
Yeah, and that's very sad to hear, because I think
you're right. You look at socialist countries that have that
have fallen in great distance Venezuela, everybody there should be rejecting,
resoundingly rejecting.
Speaker 10 (28:44):
Socialism because of what it's done to them.
Speaker 9 (28:46):
The inflation rate you know, a thousands of percent inflation rates. Uh,
it's just it's a hellhole and people have made their
peace with it. Yeah, you know, there's not a revolution
going on, and I don't understand why. Well, maybe you know,
We'll not I'm saying we've turned into a total socialist
(29:08):
state or anything, but I'm saying that, Yeah, people do.
They sort of becomes a new normal and they accept it.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Right, But if they.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Think there's real hope, Right, if they were to look
at the GOP or let's say y Mumblati runs is
an unaffiliated and he's getting traction, and they think, hey,
there's a chance, then maybe they get excited about it
and perk up and hey, Wayne, can you go another segment? Yeah, okay, great,
let's do that. Wayne Loguson is with us. From wayne'sword
(29:36):
George Brockler, had you heard that right that he might
get in.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
George told me the exact.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
We'll see if he answers my text. You're on the
Dan Capla Show.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
And now back to the Dan Kapla Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
It's Wayne Wayne Loguson of wayne'sword I think is getting
back with us right now. So interesting, Wayne did this
interview with Jemmy Mobilatte, the mayor of Colorado Springs, Colorado,
and it sounds like he may be on the verge
of getting in the governor's race. Now, Wayne, you're telling
us it would be as an independent, right, he would
(30:15):
run as an independent? Can you remember, Wayne, there's one
name that pops out. I can't remember it. The best
performance ever by an independent candidate for governor in Colorado
that the guy's name's on the tip of my tongue
and I can't remember it, but it wasn't it wasn't
that impressive?
Speaker 9 (30:35):
Yeah, I'm not Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I may be
mixing it up. I may be thinking of run, Yeah yeah,
I mean. And Tom tan Credo is the closest person
whoever came within striking distance of winning the governor's race,
not being a Republican.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Or a Democrat on the ticket during the Dan Mays Fiesta.
Speaker 9 (30:54):
Yeah that's right.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Yeah, yeah, no, that's right. But so we've been talking
with Wayne about that.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Now you can dial into Wayne at Wayne's Word dot
co dot com, and then be sure to subscribe to
the YouTube channel so you can.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
See the show as well.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
And now, when we went to break, we were talking
about the governor's race overall, and a quick recap is
my premise is with Michael Bennaby and the presumptive dem
nominee and there being sub zero excitement for Bennett, plenty
of money and structural support this and that, but very
little excitement. This might be a rare opportunity for an
impressive independent to maybe have a shot. But the Republican side,
(31:33):
who's going to emerge as a nominee? And that's where
Wayne was saying, he's heard that George Brockler might get
into the race and so waiting to hear back from
George on that. Any other names not already in Wayne,
And what's your take on the current GOP field. You
mentioned Victor Marx and hey, he sounds fascinating and we're
trying to get him on air.
Speaker 9 (31:53):
Yeah, he's I think he's a he's going to be
a strong candidate. And then you have the sheriff running
from next door to El Paso County. Yeah, he's getting
He's definitely in the race. He's an interesting prospect. But
if you look at this Forbes article that came out
about sometime last week, let's see it was dated October
(32:16):
five and it says, reliably, Bluke, this is based on
a poll, reliably blue. Colorado has seen a dramatic political shift.
We're injecting democratic policies, suggesting a long time blue state
maybe in play for Republicans for the first time in
nearly two decades. And then it goes on to talk
about the poll results and it says on the Republican side,
(32:38):
the poll revealed that of the declared and likely candidate,
it's only longtime district Attorney George Brockler stands a viable
chance of pulling off one of the nation's biggest political
upsets in twenty twenty six. And he came in at
thirty three percent. Victor Marx came in at about fifteen percent.
So if there's a wrong contender for the on the
(33:02):
Republican side and the Democrats are running Bennett who again,
you know, nobody's excited about that, not even the Democrats,
then you're going to have I think, you know, if
it's a competitive race among the Democrats and Republicans, yes,
I think an independent could come in and shock the country.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Now, yeah, go ahead, yeah, would Jimmy Mobilaty take more
from the Democrats or the Republicans.
Speaker 9 (33:35):
I think that he would take let's see, I think
he would get a strong support from the Democrats, from
the sort of moderate Democrats. He would get a lot
of support from the unaffiliateds, and I think he would
get some support from Republicans. I mean, he has a
pretty good record to run on as a you know,
(33:56):
if he were a Republican, to appeal to Republicans in that.
This is a man who's hired some three hundred new cops.
You know, we have the biggest police force in Colorado
Springs history right now.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
That's smart he has.
Speaker 9 (34:10):
He has adamantly rejected the idea that illegal immigrants are
welcome here and that the city has anything to offer them.
He has come out against you know, this drug bonanza
that we have going on. I think he's I think
there's a lot of appeal. Now he's not going to
appeal to far right Republicans.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Hey, well, let me ask you, because we're up against
the clock the life issue, where's he at on the
life issue?
Speaker 9 (34:37):
You know, I didn't ask him that directly. I suspect
that he is pro life.
Speaker 10 (34:45):
This is a man, he's a he's been a Christian minister,
he grew up in.
Speaker 9 (34:50):
Nigeria, which is a lot of what forms the basis
for how he runs the city. He has been in
a lawless environment. I have visited there, and you know,
they don't hopefully fash top so once they do have. Yeah, exactly,
And he addresses that in the podcast at Waynesword dot Co.
(35:11):
So he I think he has a huge reverence for life. Yeah,
of course that's not an issue anyone ever wants to
run on.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
Yeah, but I don't think it helps.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
It runs from it.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
I mean I know I don't either.
Speaker 9 (35:25):
I don't either, and I don't think anyone should.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Yeah, Hey, Wayne, really, I really appreciate the time. I
hope we talk off and now congrats on Wayne's Word.
Hope everyone goes to Wayne Ward's dot Wayne'sword dot Co
and subscribes to the YouTube.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Channel as well.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Thank you, my friend, look forward to the next one.
Speaker 9 (35:42):
Thank you very much, Stanning, big congratulations on the winning bluebook.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Thank you my friend for that. Oh amen, thank you
my friend. Really appreciate it. I felt it was very
much a god thing. And back in a flash on
the Dan Kapla Show,
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