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September 24, 2025 33 mins
In the second hour of today's show, Dan Caplis explains why he has so much optimism for the future of the Republican Party.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
Have on this pretty afternoon. Glad you're here. You can
kind of taste victory, can't you? Probably?

Speaker 1 (00:19):
I don't know how old you are, but probably more
so than any time in your life. I mean, you
can see all the winds they're stacking up, you can
see all the progress. But you know how it is,
whether you've ever fought in a ring or not, you
just know it on multiple levels when your opponent is
on the ropes and you're that close. And that's where
we are right now. You know that the Democrats are

(00:43):
that battered. You know, I'm talking nationally right, Colorado's its
own critter will kick that around, but they are battered.
They have been exposed. See that's political death for them,
right when who they are truly gets exposed, and they
have been. Trump's been masterful at that, and they are
on the ropes. So you know what's it going to take.

(01:03):
You're never going to like finish them off. Right, all
of human existence has been this ongoing battle between good
and evil, right, and certainly after Christ came into the world,
you see, and it's fascinating. Ryan ever tell you, I
had the privilege of moderating a debate between Christopher Hitchins,
who was you know, before his passing, he was the

(01:24):
most prominent atheist in the world and the best debater
for their side, and Dinesh Dsuza.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
They debated up at Mackie.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
Auditorium in Boulder, and it was sponsored by Saint Thomas
Aquinas University Parish. And I had the privilege of moderating
that debate. And you know, Mackie holds about two thousand
or so beautiful old you know, auditorium on campus, and
they could have sold ten thousand. There were people outside
bagging for tickets. But Christopher Hitchins was asked this question.

(01:55):
I can still picture the student or student age person
who asked him the questions. And the woman said, what
is the most powerful argument for the existence of God
that you have seen? And Hitchens, to his credit, he
said that almost all of the progress on Earth has

(02:16):
come in the short time since Jesus Christ was born,
and it's also true, right, And I always I enjoyed
Hitchens that night, obviously completely disagree with his worldview, but
appreciated his intellectual honesty on that point. So you can
see all of these good things happening, right, And the

(02:37):
Democrats who are being exposed, I'm not saying they're being
exposed as evil people, but they're being exposed as pushing
a lot of evil, because that's what not all, but
so much of what they're pushing is. And we're so
very close. So what's it going to take? What's it
going to take now to take that next big step?
And as I alluded to a second ago, that doesn't

(02:57):
mean Democrats will never win again, but that next big
step where the GOP advantage increases substantially and the Democrats,
which barely holding on now in most places outside of Colorado,
the Democrats fall much further behind.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
What's it going to take for that next step?

Speaker 1 (03:16):
I have some concrete ideas, but this dies into what
we were talking about in the last hour, which is, Okay,
what's it going to take to win in Colorado?

Speaker 3 (03:24):
Three or three?

Speaker 1 (03:25):
Someone three eight two five five takes d an five
seven seven three nine. Ryan is getting me reoriented to
Planet Earth after I've been in trial for three weeks
up in beautiful o Glenwood Springs, Colorado, which I'd highly
recommend that you visit. I had no idea it's such
an amazing place until we spent those three weeks there.
And in the three weeks I was there, we were

(03:46):
figuring this out the other day. Our daughter and I Caroline,
because she's on the trial team. She's on every one
of my trial teams. She's invaluable. And of the three
weeks that I was up there in that hotel, probably
was out side a total of five hours or six hours.
But she and I would go out for a walk
every night after the post trial meeting, had some food

(04:10):
we're prepped for the next day. We'd take a walk
around glen Wood Springs and we just always say, I
had no idea this place was that cool, right, So
I do hope you swing by there if you get
a chance. But Ryan is now reorienting me to the
third Rock from the Sun. Ryan, I picked up along
the way. I think it might have been in connection

(04:30):
with your show that our friend Barb Kirkmeyer is now
in the governor's race.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
Is that right correct?

Speaker 4 (04:36):
Sir, okay, good, good, No, I like she is scheduled
to join us tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
Oh good, look forward to that, like for lunch or
the show.

Speaker 4 (04:44):
Or show Okay, I mean you and her having lunch. Yeah,
that'll be a power conversation.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
I've always been a fan of barb, so yeah, that'll
be a good conversation.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Look forward to that.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Anybody else in either of these races while I've been
in trial, anything big going on there?

Speaker 3 (05:00):
No, I mean Michael Bennett is the presumptive favorite. On
the Democratic side. Phil Nonewiser's just kind of swimming in
his wake, refusing to.

Speaker 4 (05:06):
You know, kind of establish trying to get the senator
part right, you're probably right, but he's not going to
get it because no Goose already has it.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
You would think, yeah, yeah, yeah, but think about it, Ryan,
Think how perverse this is. Right, there's such phonies, the
Bennett's and the Hickenloopers and the Polises.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
They're such phony.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
So they're so enlightened, they're such progressives, they care so
much about people of color. Yeah, then why you're standing
in the schoolhouse door. I mean, right now, listen, I
wish we didn't have any Democrat in high office, not
because I dislike them, I like many of them, but
because their policies are so awful. But right now Colorado

(05:49):
would have Colorado would have a US Senator of color
for the very first time, and one who would be
far more effective than Michael Bennett. If Michael Bennet woul
just do the right thing and get out of the
way and let Joe No Goose be appointed. But think
about it, there's such phonies. There's such phonies on everything.
There's such phonies when it comes to their feigned concern

(06:12):
for people of color, that that Bennett clings to that
Senate seat even while running for governor, rather than let
Polis appoint jo Nah Goose, who would be the obvious appointments.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
So it's just it's so.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
Confirming of who they really are, which makes it even
more infuriating that they're able to still win office.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
So what's it going to take to break that?

Speaker 1 (06:35):
Three or three seOne three eight two five five d
an five seven seven three nine. I'll bet you Kelly
knows the answer to that, and at some points you
may share that with us.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
Dan.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
Good to hear you back, my friend, our future governor
of Colorado. Love you, man, that reminds me of The Uh,
one of the great commercials of all time. Can we
play that, Ryan, I'm sure you have it at your fingertips,
The the Uh.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
You can't have my bud light?

Speaker 1 (07:03):
Do you remember that commercial where the father and son
are sitting out on the dock and they're fishing, and
the sun comes.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
Over and says, Dad, I love you. Man says he
can't have my bud light.

Speaker 4 (07:16):
You remember Ami in a while and I had forgotten
about it till you reminded me.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
I'll look for it.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
And today today's Wednesday, right again, I'm just getting re
orange Wednesday. And you know what we've got to start
doing on Wednesday. We've got to start just every Wednesday.
Plane the greatest Wednesday spot ever made.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
You know what that is?

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Right, Camel from the Super Bowl? That's right day, Yeah,
that was. That was one of the more memorable moments
from trial. We were because you know, trial can be
trial can be Well, I'll tell that story some other day.

(07:58):
I don't want to digress, but it, believe it or not,
ties into Mikey the Camel and hump Day.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
But anyway, so can we pull that sound any other
great commercial sound? We want to pull all.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
I got it right here.

Speaker 4 (08:11):
Actually, the thing I was going to ask you is
I'm pulling this up, is you know you can't have
my bud light. They're fucking over you know, I want
to have bud light. Dad's not gonna get Do you
think they could give away bud light now after the
whole Dylan mulvaney, Oh my goodness, Oh my goodness, you want.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
The commercial right now?

Speaker 1 (08:25):
Because I mean it's it's so interesting right just yeah, No,
I'd love to hear it.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
I think everybody'd love to like, got it, dad? Yeah,
there's something I want to tell you, But what is it?

Speaker 3 (08:39):
So well, Dad, you're my dad and I love you.

Speaker 4 (08:47):
Man, you're not getting my bud light, Johnnie, for.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
The great taste that won't fill you up and never
let you down. Make it a bud light.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
You know why that commercial? Get it? John?

Speaker 1 (09:02):
Why that commercial works so well? And uh, you're younger
than I'm so you're probably from a different era. But
there was a time like when I grew up. Okay,
I literally the greatest parents, humanly imaginable, deeply, deeply, deeply
love my mom and dad always will. But the era
I grew up in It's not like guys sat around

(09:23):
saying or their dad, love you, love you, love you.
I mean we showed it, yeah, but I didn't. I
didn't know a single guy who said it. It's just
not something back in that era that was said now
this era, which I think is far better. You know,
every time I talked to Joe, it's love you, bud,
love your dad. It's just right and it's what we do.

(09:44):
I didn't love my dad any less, he didn't love
me any less. It just wasn't said, hear the way
it is now. That's what made that commercial so funny.

Speaker 4 (09:55):
I agree, And for me personally, never said it much
with my dad before he he was in recovery. But
once he went through alcoholics anonymous and came out sober,
he said it to me a lot.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
Yeah yeah, in the time since yeah yeah, and it's uh,
you know. And it led to a really interesting question
at a seminar where they asked because I think there
was a whole there are a whole lot of generations
of kids and fathers who who you know, grew up
in that era. And then the question was how much
would you pay to have five more minutes with your father?

(10:31):
So you could say all the things you wish you
would have said. Don't you think that's one of the
more profound questions?

Speaker 2 (10:38):
It is, Yeah, good.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
One to go to break on.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
I think it's a terrible one.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
I think break now you make people think about it.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
Let's think about that three or three eight two five
five takes d an five seven seven three nine And
what happened to do better Denver? We'll talk about that
next on the Dan Kapulash.

Speaker 5 (11:06):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Right.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
I mean, everybody's heard this question asked, and I think
everybody we've all tried to get in the habit of
asking it first thing when you wake up in the morning,
and then doing it, and then for whatever reason most
of us can't.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
I can't. But what would you do if today was
your last day?

Speaker 1 (11:27):
I mean, how would you live your life differently if
you knew today was your last day?

Speaker 2 (11:34):
Yeah? If you seem very moved by that, choked up
I can't even.

Speaker 4 (11:38):
Just think you gotta then it's gonna sound kind of trite,
like when people ask you how you're doing, whether it's
a caller or someone in the hallway, what do you
always say, live in the dream, Live in the dream.
You got to do that every day? Man, Yeah, you
do live every day as if it were your last day.
And I ended up doing something crazily jumping out of
airplanes necessarily, But tomorrow's not gearing team for any of us.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
And I always go on that thought. I always have
that on my mind. So I try to go.

Speaker 4 (12:06):
Out there and get her done every single day.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
And you do. You do a beautiful job of it.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
But if you truly were living today like that, you
do things much differently. Right, you wouldn't be here, No,
probably you wouldn't be here. Yeah, you'd be with your dad,
or you'd be in a fishing stream or a bowling alley,
or a sports book.

Speaker 4 (12:31):
Or somewhere something like that. Yeah, eating wings, Yeah, you wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Be doing this.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
Watching the Tigers lose again, you.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
Wouldn't be doing this.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
I would imagine that if it was like the everybody's
last day, nobody'd be listening to a show like this.
Nobody'd spend their last day doing that.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
Right.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
But I think the question, when asked you know more,
maybe more realistically, is just kind of overall in life,
how would we do the same everyday things we do
differently if it was our last.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
Day, or we know we had thirty days left or whatever.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
A text or Dan my father, No, my grandfather. Yes,
I wish I'd spent a little more time fishing with
my granddad and a little less time hanging out with
my friends. Three out three someone three eight two five
five text d an five seven seven three nine. What
triggered this deep thought was one of the great commercials

(13:27):
of all time, the bud light commercial you can't have
my bud Like, can you fire that again?

Speaker 2 (13:31):
Ryan? I don't think anybody will.

Speaker 5 (13:33):
Has I just closed it down, but I'll get it
back up.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
Well, how hard can it be to get it back up?

Speaker 1 (13:37):
In the meantime, let me play this sound because we've
got a lot of different issues going today, and one
of them is while I'm an optimist in general, I've
never been more optimistic in my life. And it's not
wishful thinking. It's it's happening. It's not guaranteed, but it's close.
I mean, you can see the world changing before our eyes.
You can see America changing for the better before eyes.

(13:58):
Still lots of stuff and probably and all that good stuff,
but a key and absolute essential key to that is
how so many more people are now living their faith
openly and in many many cases that's living their Christianity openly.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
And it's it's not only that the.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
Charlie Kirk Memorial, which was a beautiful thing, but in
so many different ways before that and after that. And
I personally believe, given my worldview and my faith.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
That that that is, you know.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
The key, that that's the straw that stirs the drink
as to the major, you know, next big transcending step
in America and the world. But that's why I found
this sounds so interesting. There's this guy, Matt Shaw. He's
a star player with the Chicago Cubs. They're in a
race right now to lock up a playoff spot, maybe
the division, but more likely a wild card, and he

(14:52):
skipped a key game it might have cost the Cubs
the game to attend the Charlie Kirk Memorial, and he's
under fire for it. And just listen to his comments
when he was questioned about a post game no backup,
which is a beautiful thing.

Speaker 6 (15:07):
All the that's your players that I talked to, and
really the whole team had their sport was really important.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
To me.

Speaker 6 (15:14):
And then I mean Charlie he was you know, he
was someone that I met at the apartments in Arizona
where I lived, and then someone who was one of
the biggest Cups fans ever met. And he texted me
after every game, go a great win for the Cubbies,
and he was supersal for supportive of us, and obviously.

Speaker 7 (15:32):
Someone who was really faithful connected.

Speaker 6 (15:34):
On that front as well. But yeah, I mean his
his wife, Erica had texted me asking me if I
would if I would come to me to the funeral,
and you know, I felt as though it was something
that was really important for me to do.

Speaker 8 (15:49):
Are you concerned about the backlash because there is a lot.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
Of politics abouts.

Speaker 6 (15:54):
Yeah, I mean absolutely, I'm not concerned at all.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
Though.

Speaker 6 (15:57):
You know, my connection with Charlie was through our faith.
That's something that drives me every day. That's the reason
why I'm able to do what I do every day,
and that's something I'm extremely thankful for.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
You know.

Speaker 6 (16:07):
I know, without my faith and without the many blessings
I've been given in my life, that I wouldn't be here,
able to talk to you guys, able to help this
team eventually go and win championships. So that's something I
feel really really blessed about. So you know, whatever backlash
comes is okay. You know, I feel strong about my
faith and that that was meant to be happening.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
To see how cool that is.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
That's in a locker room, a baseball locker room, right,
so you can see how much more of this is
happening in America.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
And you know, Tim.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
Tebow that the first really big example, right, and it's
the reason he became most popular I think, in the
world very quickly. That and he was winning games at
the same time. But it's contagious, that's the point, right,
It's contagious. And the more people like Matt Shaw speak out,
you know that, then more and more people are going
to feel comfortable speaking out and living it. And that's

(16:59):
going to attract even more people because they see all
these you know, really cool, impressive people saying hey, yeah,
this is what I.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
Built it all around.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
I just think it's the reason for so much optimism
on every level, right, whether you're talking about pick your
part of society, any part of society, you know, from
politics to arts to this to that.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
It can only mean good things. But then hey, we've
still got to do our stuff and find the breakthrough?
And how do you crack the code in Colorado? Maybe
the toughest nut in the country.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
What's the secret? Sauce?

Speaker 2 (17:32):
There, you're on the Dame Capital.

Speaker 5 (17:34):
Show, you're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
I've never been more optimistic, and I'm always an optimist.
But you can see it too, right, I mean, it's unavoidable,
just getting so very close to that major, major pivot point.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
Obviously dramatic improvement since.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
Election day, but what will it take to get over
the hump and what let'll take to crack the code
in Colorado, which really is the toughest not right, Colorado,
And I mean my view, it kind of makes it
a privilege to be here and be part of trying
to figure out how to do that, because eventually it
will have to be done. Three all three someone three
eight two five five takes d an five seven seven

(18:24):
three nine before I get to this absolutely wonderful sound
of Kamala Harris explaining why she couldn't have the running
make she wanted because he was gay and the rest
of her book, Ryan, can you book her? I would
love to talk about it, and I have to admit
it right now, because it's about brutal honesty, right.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
I've always been that way.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
I am tempted to get her book. I don't think
in the end I'll actually put it on my credit card.
But just the way she's ripping on all these dems,
I mean, pick them right, it might be worth it.
It would be so much fun. But the latest today
is Tim Walls. Yeah, she really apparently realized too late

(19:05):
what we all knew at the time.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
Right, Remember the day she picked her I came on
air and said, this is it. Well it was over
before then, but but this is it. This is the
greatest gift we could possibly get.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
Does she really think that little of Americans?

Speaker 4 (19:20):
And I know it's a rhetorical question, the answer is yes,
that just because Pete Boodha Judge was gay, that America
wouldn't vote for him. Does she really think that? I mean,
look at Tim Walls. Okay, this guy's a clown. Yeah,
I'm not going to vote for him because he's a
clown matter what his identity politics boxes are?

Speaker 2 (19:38):
Right? Oh no, Ryan, But you know the answer to that, right,
It really is true.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
And it's hard for a good person, like you're any
good person to recognize. But but the left, they really
do look down on the rest of us. I mean
truly they.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
They they're not stupid people.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
Most of them are have a lot of intellectual capacity,
but they have they been blinded by their own arrogance
and blinded by their own elitism. And then the irony,
of course, is they end up the dumb ones, not
because of lack of intellectual capacity, but the choice not

(20:14):
to use it. So they end up as the dummies,
thinking the rest of us are dummies when we're the
opposite of that. And so that's why it becomes loosely
pulling the football out time and time again for them.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
But but yeah, let's let's play this sound.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
Then I'll get back to some more text. Kamala explaining
why she couldn't have the running mates she really wanted
and she needed the epitome of manhood and Tim Walls.

Speaker 9 (20:41):
If his reaction to that, since this part of the
book has come out, if you've had any reflection on that,
or I guess, I guess I'd ask you to just
elaborate on that a little bit.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
It's hard to hear with you.

Speaker 9 (20:56):
Running, as you know, you're the first woman elected vice
president I met an a South Asian woman elected that high office,
very nearly elected president, to say that he couldn't be
on the ticket effectively because he was gay.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
It's hard to hear.

Speaker 8 (21:08):
No, No, that's not what I said, that he couldn't
be on the ticket because he is gay. My point,
as I write in the book, is that I was
clear that in one hundred and seven days, in one
of the most hotly contested elections for president United States,

(21:29):
against someone like Donald Trump, who knows no floor to
be a black woman running for president United States, and
as a vice presidential running mate a gay man, with
the stakes being so high, it made me very sad.

(21:50):
But I also realized it would be a real risk,
no matter.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
Two quick things before I play the rest of that, Well,
what was the American Revolution? That was a real risk.
People want courageous people. And what she's saying is she
was too much of a coward to do what she
thought was best, which is a sure path to defeat.
I mean she was never going to win from the beginning, right,
We talked about it on this show. But yeah, too

(22:19):
much of a risk, right, It's it just goes back
to just by by definition, by nature, you look at
the positions they've taken on a lot of big issues
that what you have are intellectual cowards. The left, by
nature are intellectual cowards.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
How you know.

Speaker 8 (22:37):
I've been an advocate and an ally of the lgbt
community my entire life. So it wasn't about it wasn't
about it, right, So it wasn't about any any prejudice on.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
My part an advocate and an ally for the LGBTQ community,
except when you have to hire an LGBTQ person, right, But.

Speaker 8 (22:59):
Had short we had such a short period of time.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
And the stakes were so high.

Speaker 8 (23:07):
I think Pete is a phenomenal, phenomenal public servant, and
I think America is and would be ready for that.
But at when I had to make that decision with
two weeks to go, you know, And maybe I was

(23:29):
being too cautious, you know, I'll let our friends, we
should all talk about that. Maybe I was, But that's
the decision I made, and I'm and I, as with
everything else in the book, I'm being very candid about that,
with a great deal of sadness about also the fact

(23:50):
that it might have been a risk.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
Yeah, So she's trying to blame the voters for her
own cowardice.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
Right, remarkable And by.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
The way, one hundred and seven days, excuse these single
best things she had going for her was a shorter race.
That was the one and only chance she had a
longer race. So it's going to mean more time to
figure out who she really is. A shorter race like that,
maybe the media could keep clouding things and she gets
a momentum. But yeah, as we predicted in the beginning

(24:21):
that Sugar High wouldn't last and quickly wore off. But Ryan,
isn't that just so typical of the left. And it's
typical the left in Colorado. It's typical of the left everywhere.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
You know.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
It's it's a phony concern for filling the blank. It's
a phony concern for people of color, it's a phony
concern for LGBTQ. And we have the brightest shining exhibit
a possible in Colorado. You look at Colorado, Okay, it's
it's been Democrat controlled statewide for a very long time.

(24:52):
When's the last Republican governor we've had. We've had one
in sixty years, right, isn't that right? And Bill Owens
and look at this, Okay, how many women governors or
senators have we had give me a second to do
the math?

Speaker 3 (25:06):
Zero right?

Speaker 2 (25:07):
How many governors or senators of color have we had
give me a second?

Speaker 3 (25:14):
Zero right?

Speaker 2 (25:16):
And the Democrats have been in control.

Speaker 3 (25:18):
They're absolute phonies.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
When it comes to equality and gender. They're absolute phonies.
And exhibit A the screaming, drop the mic. Exhibit A,
your honor, This is all I need is.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
Michael Bennett's Senate.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
See the man's running for governor in Colorado. He shouldn't
be serving as US senator. But right now, the only
thing standing between Colorado having his first US Senator of
Color is Michael Bennett. Because if he would just leave
that job, as any decent person would while they're running
for governor, then at that point, Joe Na Goose would

(25:57):
be appointed to fill the seat, and Colorado whatever, it's
first Senator of color. Listen, I don't want Joagose to
be senator because of his policies. I don't want Michael
Bennett to be senator because of his policies. But all
this phoniness about equality this and equality of that, it's
Michael Bennett stopping Colorado from maybe its first US Senator

(26:19):
of Color and one who would be a far more
effective US Senator than Bennett is. So that's who these
people really are. Now I'm glad in a way that
Bennett isn't doing what he should because they're both lefties,
you know, no Goose and Bennett. They just pull it
off differently, and by all accounts from what I've heard,

(26:40):
Joe Negoose is a delightful guy who I'd love having
dinner with and we could disagree agreeably.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
That's a beautiful thing.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
But their policies are still equally lefty. So you'd rather
have an ineffective Bennett than an effective No Goose pushing
lefty policies.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
I'm just saying, it proves what phony he's the left.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
In Colorado are all right, We'll get back to the
lines and the text.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
You're on the Dan Capla Show.

Speaker 5 (27:13):
And now back to the Dan Taplass Show podcast from.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
There, today to a promo for Ryan Shooing Show two
to four each day, and this caller was talking about
all the great guests that Ryan has, Lauren bo Bird
and George Brockler, and then it occurred to me, I
have never been invited to be a guest on your show.
Is it my after shape, because no, I don't think
that's I think my current after shape is pretty good.

Speaker 4 (27:37):
I think there have been a couple what do you
call them, handoff segments where like last episode, last segment
of my show, in the first segment of your show.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
Never, are you sure about never?

Speaker 2 (27:48):
Never?

Speaker 3 (27:49):
I apologize, then I will take it personally.

Speaker 4 (27:52):
That's not acceptable.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
Yeah, No, that's fine, that's fine.

Speaker 3 (27:56):
Are you available?

Speaker 4 (27:57):
A lot of times you're cruising in here, like three
minutes after the hour.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
Don't worry about her.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
This is good preparation for marriage, Ryan, this is good preparation.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
No, don't worry about it. I've never even thought twice
about it. No, don't worry. No, No, it doesn't bother me.
Don't lay it.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
On to David. Let's talk to David and went Moore. David,
you're on the Dan Kapala Show. Welcome, Hi you, Dan,
how you doing much?

Speaker 7 (28:28):
Congratulations from your court case?

Speaker 2 (28:31):
Thank you, thank you. That was tremendous justice.

Speaker 7 (28:36):
It sounded like it. So I've got a question. So
you the earlier caller.

Speaker 10 (28:42):
That was interesting regarding the abortion and the GOP. I
have a question. Wasn't it about four.

Speaker 7 (28:49):
Years ago that on the ballot.

Speaker 10 (28:52):
We had a position to allow abortion in the state
of Colorado until birth proximately is that when that happen?

Speaker 2 (29:00):
Yeah, well just sum it up.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
Yet we had a late term abortion restriction that was
voted down.

Speaker 7 (29:06):
Yes, okay, that's good enough.

Speaker 10 (29:09):
So I don't believe the outcome.

Speaker 7 (29:11):
Of that personally. And you're asking, how can.

Speaker 10 (29:14):
The Colorado GOP. Well, no different than the president and
many others. The machines are a problem, Dan, even though
you want to not admit it. The machines and mail
in ballots.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
So for the past thirteen.

Speaker 10 (29:29):
Years, our control in Colorado is slowly slipping away. Where
they have the majority, used to have super majority, and
things like that late term abortion, which I don't believe
in Colorado. I live in the rural area.

Speaker 7 (29:42):
Yeah, and the majority of the rural area.

Speaker 10 (29:46):
I hear everyone all the time.

Speaker 7 (29:48):
They're red, they're conservatives.

Speaker 10 (29:51):
I think you know that too.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
And obviously you've got these big blue concentrations in the city,
and David, I'm grateful when you call them that we
have these conversations.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
I just might.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
My point always comes back to this, right, Listen.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
We know anytime you're going to have a mail in
ballot system, there's going to be a greater opportunity for fraud, right,
that's just inherent. I've just never seen the proof that
there is in Colorado fraud on a scale that would
change the outcome of elections. I don't think there should
be any fraud, right, but I just haven't seen that proof.

Speaker 7 (30:21):
Okay, So here's here's a deal to look at.

Speaker 10 (30:24):
There's a lot of fifty one, forty nine and sixty
forties and consistent an amount of ballots. Things are being
submitted without actual ballots, or there'll play some votes. Oh,
by the way, the Gateway Pundit, did you see their
article yesterday or today regarding the Detroit Michigan which I
think Ryan likes Detroit.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
Yeah, and I missed that. I miss that, my friend,
But again for me.

Speaker 7 (30:50):
You might want to look it up. It has to
be selection, Okay, twenty twenty and the fraud.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Going on before.

Speaker 8 (30:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
No, I appreciate it, and I appreciate your call. And
David and I talk a bunch and it always ends
the same way. I understand that there are lots of good,
smart people out there who, for logical reasons, have real
concerns about how much fraud there is in a mail
in voting system, and then separately, folks have concerns about machines.
I respect the people who have those concerns. All I'm

(31:21):
saying is I haven't seen the proof. I haven't seen
the proof that we have a level of fraud that
would change outcomes. That doesn't mean my mind is closed
to the possibility, of course not. So I do appreciate
the call there, my friend, Thank you. I do think, though,
we have to be realistic when we look at Colorado.
If we're going to sit here and say, Okay, the

(31:41):
reason we're losing is because of election fraud, then I
think we're really doing ourselves a disservice. I think the
reason we're losing is because of other dynamics, and we
have to figure out how to change those in order
to win. So that's where my focus is at. It's
not close to the other possibility. I just haven't seen

(32:02):
the evidence, and I don't see the mechanism in place
to get the evidence, because I know from the job
I've done for forty one years as a civil trial lawyer,
that hey, you give me subpoena power, and you give
me enough depositions and you give me the right team
of great people, which I'm blessed with at my office,
and we're going to find the proof.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
We're going to find the truth.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
But if you don't have subpoena power, if you don't
have that legal mechanism to get in and get people
under oath and subpoena documents and get to the truth,
how are you going to get there? That's that's I
think a practical consideration that that folks really have to
think about. And then in the meantime, let's spend time

(32:46):
focusing also on you know, what do we need to
do to convince enough Colorado voters to flip? Because when
you look at the math, that's what it's going to
take to win statewide. Is Yeah, you want to increase
turnout with all your supporters, you want to do TV,
you want to do all that stuff, right, sure, But
it's the flips to me that are going to make
the big difference in the end, because then they're losing

(33:08):
one and we're getting one. And you can do that
math pretty quick. So what's it going to take to
get the flips? And that's where I think we really
need to be focusing our effort and I think it
is doable. Obviously it's hard, it's supposed to be. That's
kind of a privilege for us because.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
That's how you.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
Change the world, that's how do great things, that's how
you make history. If we're living in some solidly read state,
that wouldn't be I mean, it'd be great because we
wouldn't have all these lefties running the show, but it
wouldn't be as fulfilling.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
When we win. Brian, great job is always my friend.
Thank you, Kelly, human sunshine. I've got to remember to
where my sunglasses when I'm in the studio. Have a
great evening. See you tomorrow, I hope. On The Dan
Kapsla Show.
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