October 3, 2025 • 33 mins
In the second hour of today's show, Dan Caplis reacts to Taylor Swift's new album, as well as the sentencing for the man who attempted to assassinate Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast
edition of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to
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great Friday afternoon this is and an unexpected There's Surprises
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opportunity to talk with Abby, John's true hero of the
pro life movement, actually started out as a planned parenthood
clinic director talking about the fall of Roe, which I
think we agree, both agree has been a great thing,
but I think that it's going to lead to all
of these tremendous victories for the life movement. Abby has
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concerns for the reasons she expressed, so we'll continue that conversation.
It also included the issue of is President Trump a
great pro life president. My position is he's the most
pro life president in my lifetime, to be more precise,
the greatest pro life president in my lifetime, even if
he is personally pro cho and then Abby had a
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different point of view, So great conversation there. Taylor Swift's
new album Life of a Showgirl dropped today and we're
talking about that, not so much in the music sense
though that's interesting too, right, but also in the broader
cultural sense. And it's always a hot button with the
wonderful folks who listen to this show, because many feel
it's wrong for me to be taking my daughter to
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her concerts, spending my money for Taylor Swift when she
supports all these left wing causes. And I'm like, whoa
wait a second, that that shouldn't be the task, right,
and do we not go to nuggets or Broncos or
other things like that because there are some players, big
salary players, who have different political points of view.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
That's always a fun conversation, but.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
You know, you know you are over the target when
you have a former Denver chief of police calling to
talk about Taylor Swift.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Chief Jim, how you doing, my friend? I am living
the dream. How have you been good?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Tell me your family is great?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Oh? Thank you, Chief? They are. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
And I had the real pleasure of going through this
last long trial with our daughter on the trial team
as she often is, and that that was just one
of the great things in life.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
How are you guys doing?
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Doing great? Sir? You know I have never I'm going
to admit my age girl, I have never heard a
Tator Swift song. Well, I've never been to one of
her concerts. You know, my my musical repertoires several decades back.
In fact, I last count I have four juke boxes
in my house.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Wow, they're probably worth a billion dollars.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Well, you know, I'm kind of going to take you
back to the rock and roll in the big band era.
But you know, one thing I like about Tator Swift
is I admire her for a lot of reasons. One
of them is I think that visually and the way
that she conducts herself, she's I think she's a positive
role model for young women and girls. She's not out
there all tattooed up and yelling profanity. And you know,
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I always appreciate that the way that she treats the
people around her. You know, she seems to be so
respectful of folks who see her in the box, and
fans will stand up and she'll talk with them, and
you know, do you remember that at the end of
one of her last tours, she kicked everybody one hundred
thousand dollars. The guy that drives the truck, the guy
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that puts up the stage, the you know, I just
don't leave for a while. And I don't share her politics,
but you know, I cancel her vote and she cancels mine.
And that's okay.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
That's like me and my wife.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
That's why we vote, you know, and my wife as well.
But you know, I got to tell you, from an
old guy's point of view, I admire her for many
many things. I don't share her politics, but I do
admire her the way she conducts herself, from the way
she treats folks.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Wow, what a great call. She appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Now, let me ask you, do you know any of
the guys or were you You wouldn't have been around
back when Elvis was given away Cadillacs to some of
the guys he was on the force, But do you
know any of those guys? Oh?
Speaker 3 (04:03):
I was. I was back there, of course I was.
I knew every well, yeah, I knew every one of them,
and I was never part of that cadre. But they
tell me that Elvis, if you would ever compliment him
on something like a ring, they take it off and
give it to you.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Wow, I mean, I've got a friend of mine that
has a ring. They said, Oh, man, Elvis that's beautiful,
and Elvis took it off and gave.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
It he is so awesome. That is that? Yeah, I
can't imagine what was.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
The story behind. I know we had Jerry Kennedy on
Captain Kennedy wants to talk about it, But but how
did Elvis end up given some of the guys Cadillacs.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
You know, that's an interesting story because Jerry Kennedy was
at the time was driving a SOB and he'd mentioned
something to Elvis about his SOB and Elvis said, no, no,
my friends don't. My friends don't drive sob. He took
him down to the to and there was four or
five guys and asked him, what do you want? And
I think Jerry took a Lincoln and the rest of
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them took Cadillacs.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
One of his spending one of his spendings Freeze And
there's a there's a great story that he was in
a Cadillac dealership one night and buying cars and the
janitor he told the janitor go out and pick the
one you want.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
That I'm just a tremendously kind person.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
That just makes me feel so good just hearing that story. Wow.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Well, Chief, thank you it's always a pleasure. Hope we
get you back here in studio before too long and
tell some stories.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
I'd look forward to it, sir, always listen to you.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Thank you, my friend. I appreciate that is Chief Jim Collier,
former Denver police chief. Always great to hear from the chief.
Three or three someone three eight, two, five, five the
number and right, can you bump us back the rest
of this hour? With this new Taylor Swift album, and
because I am so thing, well, just what you Oh yeah, yeah,
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not right.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
I don't think we're going to blow up programming for it.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
But because like you like, your niece, Brain's niece gave
a concerning review of the album, and she's a big fan.
I'm seeing more and more social media not as happy
with it as you would expect. But then the broader
Taylor Swift issues. I think her always's really interesting.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Just from a creative standpoint, and this is kind of
off the beaten path a little bit. I've noticed she
names a lot of songs that have already existed, and
we're pretty popular in the public sphere. For instance, Cruel
Summer that was a banana rama.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
Hit back in the eighties.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Oh sure, Well, Taylor Swift has a song called cool
Summer and on this album, on a previous album, Okay,
on this album, Taylor Swift has a song called father Figure.
Now come on, even you remember George Michael with Father
Figure in nineteen eighty sid.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
I didn't know that was going on.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
There's a lot of that there.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
I wonder why right, because.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
Maybe it's a slight tip like tip It.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Must be I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
It must be right because she wouldn't be doing it
for money, She wouldn't need to copyright in French.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
Yeah about it. If it's a totally different song. I
don't think she.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
You know, the previous artists secure the rights to that necessarily.
But it's just odd to me because those are just
two examples, and I know that I if I think
hard enough, there are more.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yeah. Yeah, it's.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Interesting text Pope poirie, Dan, don't let me ever say
that word again?
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Please?
Speaker 5 (07:28):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (07:28):
It's just not a manly word. Let me say like
corn cornicopia. That's a great poulpeper. No guy should say
pope pally.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
No, my god? Okay here, Oh at least my shirt's
still blue. Didn't turn pink? But oh oh dan? Uh
there was a time pig shirts were in.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
I remember the eighties. Don Johnson, Miami Vice.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Oh yeah, man, my first law clerk job. I remember,
I'd go, I'd have my pink shirt.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Feels so cool.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
Yeah yeah, and I bet you were.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
I don't think so.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
Flock of seagulls.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Haircut Oh no, Oh, my grandfather cut my hair until
I was a college sophomore.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
Saved money. Yeah, did you pay him at all?
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:15):
I saved a lot of money because I didn't have
any dates out. I don't know any dates I made money.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
People come up to me on the street, hand me
a bill and say, good luck, poor kid.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Yeah right, there has to be a charity for that kid.
I don't know what charity it is, but there's gotta
be bet for that kid. And I had the greatest
grandfather in the world, but probably should have played golf
instead of cut hair.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
There you go, yeah, but what a great man.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
Dan.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Please listen to your guests to Abby take off here.
I'm obsessed with Trump blinders and really listen.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Another texter, we're going to have to have a gofund
me for for those hearing aides. I guess the texter
didn't hear me say that, Hey, I think President Trump
may very well be pro choice himself, and I don't
care as long as what he's doing with his power
is pro life. So he has been the most pro
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life president of my lifetime in terms of power used
to protect innocent life. If he is personally pro choice,
you know.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
I don't like that.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
I'd like to try to persuade him, but I would
be okay with that as long as he used his
power to save innocent human life. And I challenge anybody
what president, what president in American history? And we can
start with Rowe right, what president in American history has
been more pro life in his.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Actions than Donald Trump?
Speaker 1 (09:46):
By the way, when we Quebec, also want to tell
you about the new coin if you haven't seen it yet,
that the President Trump on a one dollar coin. I'll
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the Dan Capla Show.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
And now back to the Dan Kapla Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
And I think she has a lot of great music
that just sounds like generic elevator pop, right, Like if
you're riding in an elevator somewhere and you.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Hear that, you just think it's ai.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
It sounds like you and my niece Sonya might agree
on this one.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Yeah, yeah, that is see Taylor Swift, her magic I
think has come over the years from her storytelling. And
you can do that pop right, you can do that
other ways, but that to me, yeah, that's like AI
elevator stuff right there.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Maybe it'll grow on you, but more like a fun guy,
I think.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Hey, let's go to the VIP line. One of our
favorite peeps, Lindsay, Datko is with us from Jeffco Kids.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
First. They have to be, if not the most successful,
one of the.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Most successful grassroots organizations in the history of this beautiful state. Lindsay,
welcome back to the dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 6 (10:55):
Thank you, It's so good to be back on here.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Yeah, you guys have so many ws. Where do you
fly all those flags?
Speaker 2 (11:02):
I mean, like big wins over the years.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
It seems like one hundred years ago, right, the battle
over masks and everything else. But you guys got right
in the middle of that and you were.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
You were getting people fired, you were, you know, getting
masks off kids.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
I mean, you guys have quite the track record and
the latest fight is over this twenty twenty five Healthy
Kids Survey please tell everybody what's up with that.
Speaker 6 (11:25):
Yeah, so this is a statewide survey. It's important to
know that it is jointly funded by the CDC and
the state, So CDPHD is involved in writing questions.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Locals.
Speaker 6 (11:38):
School districts administer this highly invasive survey. So for example,
every two years they put out this survey and schools
in school districts across Colorado are randomly selected and they
take this forty five minute survey and Jack Coo, there
are seventeen schools this year. It is just known to
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be highly invasive. It's really throwing parents the topics that
they go into detail. So it's important for parents to
be aware and to know they can opt out by law.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
It tell people all kind of stuff because I remember
a few years ago I had to get into the
methodology of the Healthy Kids Survey, and if there's time,
we can talk about that a little bit. But people
put so much stock in this. But there aren't that
many kids surveyed, is that right?
Speaker 6 (12:26):
Yeah, not too many. I know that they definitely don't
want kids opting out because they get grant funding for this,
and that's very clearly stated. But here's a list of
some topic, gender identity, sexual identity, sexual violence. So it's
basically asking kids if they've ever been raped or if
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they have ever exhibited that behavior. Mental health and suicide,
home life questions, body image and eating disorder, substance use
with prescription pills, marijuana, nicotine, electronic vapor products, gun violence
and gun access, which Jeff costs school is removed after
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the Evergreen shooting, racism, bullying, all kinds of issues and
their extensive invasive questioning.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
And is there any opt out procedure at this point?
Speaker 6 (13:22):
There should be. That is one problem that many parents.
You see, it's a tiny link often in their weekly
school emails, and by law they should be given this
through the student Privacy protection laws.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Yeah, and these are for seventh creators.
Speaker 6 (13:39):
Actually sixth through twelfth.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Oh man, yeah, it is.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
So the concern at this point, obviously, is that there's
not a big, screaming opt out right that the parents. Okay,
it's unmistakable. Hey, here's what's happening. Give this some thought
and give us your reason to considered decision.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Correct.
Speaker 6 (14:00):
Yes, schools really should be sending there a separate email
dedicated us to healthy kids, and that's not happening.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Yeah, Wow, and you suspect and it sounds like it
because yeah, schools don't want people opt out, and they're
afraid if they took a hard look at this, they
would opt out absolutely.
Speaker 6 (14:19):
And again, for example, the Jefferson County School District and
JEFCO Public Health lost a grant, a big grant, and
we're docked points on grand grant applications because they had.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
So few students.
Speaker 6 (14:33):
And so we see Doug CO who just passed the
motion for opt in, while at the same time jeff
Co requires opt out and you can see why here.
What's the funding behind it?
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Now, lindsay, is there a full survey that somebody could
take a look at.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
It is available online somewhere.
Speaker 6 (14:55):
It is and you can pretty easily google it. We
definitely app through open records for dates and schools they
have pushed back on us on in the past. I'm
getting those we knew we were able to get it.
We post that along with a link to those surveys.
They may very slightly by district, but you could pretty
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much google and find I know, like Mesa County has
a very visible link up for people to see and
you can see generally what that survey is about.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Yeah, and I'd suggest parents do that. And it seems
to me, just as one parent kids trying to picture
the kids being back in sixth seventh eighth grade. Again,
you know, my concern is a parent. I'm sure it's
the same for everybody else. Is always okay, what's best
for my child, right, And of course you want to
do good things for the community and everything else, but
it all starts with, you know, Papa bear, what's best
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for my child and is actually diving into this survey
and all the issues it raises and everything else, you know,
best for my child.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
And yeah, I'm I'm.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Glad you're just calling everybody's attention to this because every
parent obviously wants to make that decision with all the.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
Info exactly, and it does drive social emotional learning curriculum.
And I know Larimer County at one point was reporting
that half of their students who took the survey identified
as LGBTQ. So that's five zero person.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
But this goes back to where we started the conversation,
which is the whole methodology and is this and I
underlining the word is because I haven't paid much attention
to this survey in a few years. Is this set
up so that the kids who are likely to reject
it are from conservative families and the kids who are
more likely to be allowed to take it are from
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you know, more liberal families, and so you're going to
get these skewed results that then you know, allow educators,
you know, to move in the direction they want to
move in because of political ideology. Is that what's going on?
Speaker 6 (16:58):
That's certainly what we are thinking that these results are
absolutely skewed because of students that are more likely to
take it for parents from parents that are not as
aware or opting out versus those who are very involved
in How that skews the results and drives curriculum for
all students.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Fascinating.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Well, Lindsay, thank you, thanks for bringing this to everybody's attention.
I'm going to make it a point to look at
that over the weekend as well, and maybe we have
some follow up.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
What's the window here?
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Is this survey already been done for twenty five Are
we in the middle of a phase here?
Speaker 6 (17:33):
We are in jeff Coo schools and I imagine it's
probably a seasonal survey. Everyone would need to check their
own district, but it goes through November eighteenth, in Jeffco Schools.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Well, hey, really appreciate it, lindsay. As always, how can
people reach your group in the ten seconds we have?
Speaker 6 (17:50):
Yeah, we have duffco Kids First dot com as our
website or join our Facebook group of nine thousand supporters
and followers jeff Co Kids First.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Please do that. They do great work.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
We're talking about that Taylor Swift's new album dropping today,
and I know you probably don't care about her music,
totally respect that.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
I'm kind of intrigued by it.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Kis Caroline and I have been going to Taylor Swift
concerts together since she was a little girl. But the
broader issues to me are more interesting, you know, with
so many people saying it's wrong to go to her
concerts because then you're supporting left wing causes. What so
is it wrong to go to a Bronco game if
you don't like the politics of the quarterback, which in
this case, I like his politics. But you know, you
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go to a Nuggets game. You know some players I
really like. I'm pretty sure their politics are different than mine.
Should we not be going three or three?
Speaker 5 (18:49):
Someone?
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Three?
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Eight?
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Two five five. The number not my view.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
My view is no, it's hey, you know, we can disagree.
We can disagree about the most important issues out there
and still appreciate the other person's talents and strengths.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Eric and Loveak. You're on the dan Kaplas. You'll welcome.
Speaker 7 (19:07):
Yes, sir, I'm not a swifty by any means, but
I think it was twenty ten, twenty eleven in that neighborhood.
I wanted to brush up on some of my guitar skills,
not that I have a lot, but it was a
long time since a kid I could play with it.
But I wanted a little bit of help. So I
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went into the music store and I was up in
Fort Collins, and everywhere was Taylor Swift books on how to.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
Play piano and guitar.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
And she was a scrun, a little twelve fifteen year old.
Speaker 7 (19:43):
I don't know when she made those books, but her
foundation isn't teaching people how to play music. Wow wow,
And all this music is just the icceen sprinkles and
cherry on top of her big foundation.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
So wow, roval for her going.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Kind of like what you know, you know.
Speaker 7 (20:03):
That you capture the young people you teach them kind
of like what Charlie Kirk did.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Yeah, and you.
Speaker 7 (20:10):
Know, fifteen twenty years later, all of a sudden they're like, hey,
I'm not a liberal.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
I know better.
Speaker 7 (20:17):
Same thing here. So she she came up, I think
a fantastic way. And that's that's probably what's throwing everybody
off that It's like, how could she get so popular?
Speaker 3 (20:26):
I think it's.
Speaker 7 (20:27):
Because her foundation is teaching people music, how to read it,
how to play it, how you know, because you see
her play on stage.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
It's I don't know about the piano, but she she
you know, she has music, and it's.
Speaker 7 (20:42):
Not the old stuff. Taylor Swift has has new music
that you can learn how to play, not the three
eggs and ham that I used to remember as playing
guitar and piano as a kid.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Wow, that is a cool story, man, Thank you. I
did not know that was part of all that. Yeah,
And that wouldn't have surprise me, right, because I understand
I don't like her politics.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
But but a couple of things. First, don't be surprised
if her.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Politics change over time, which is just one of so
many reasons, right not to just just you know, ostracize people,
force them out of your life, whatever because politics is different,
or not to go watch particular you know, artists or whatever.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
I wouldn't be.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
At all surprised, and mark my words on this, right,
and then we'll get back to some textures. I wouldn't
be at all surprised if Taylor Swift ends up pro life,
and I wouldn't be surprised if that change happens as
soon as she sees the first ultrasound for her first child,
you know, and so and then gets further away from
you know, the whole Hollywood circle and influences and everything else.
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So yeah, just don't don't give up on people, especially
when you're one hundred percent sure that your cause is right, right,
and when you look at there's no cause on the
face of the earth where there's more powerful objective evidence,
and there is for the pro life cause. So starting
point is you know your cause is right, then just
have to be very thoughtful about how to persuade and
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how to prevail, whether it's politically one on one, et cetera.
So yeah, if we were in Vegas, Ryan and there
was a bed available on Taylor Swift becoming pro life.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
Oh, that's very specific, like you have.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Four yeah, and if it's Vegas, right, they would probably
stage it out. What are the odds before she turns
forty she's thirty five. Now, before she turns fifty, I
would wager a lot she's pro life by the time
she turns forty five.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
It's very interesting because I think that fundamental change occurs
exactly when you said that, God willing. I think I
wish for them, and I think you do too, that
her and Travis Kelsey live a long, beautiful life together
and they have many children. I bet they do, and
the first one, that's the one. I mean this way
back in time, but when my mom was pregnant with me,
it changed her life and she didn't need any proof
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or any kind of convincing to be pro life.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
She always was.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Nobody's ever shown you the ultrasounds said look at my feet,
is the liner right? Or yeah, that baby's kicking in there,
and they say, oh a club a tessue keeps taking me.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
You know, nobody ever.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
Says that a lot of fallacy.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
No, so no, Yeah, it'll be very interesting to watch that.
But some text on that Dan Taylor may change her
politics or maybe you will that's not far more likely
she does. But that's just a product of agent experience. Right, Well,
why do you think so many more people become conservative
as they get older? They just learn more, you know,
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not on life I've I've been thanks to my mom,
very educated on that since you know, role, but on
other issues like gun rights, et cetera. My view has
changed over time as I learn more.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure a lot of young people, especially
when you get that first paycheck and you see, this
is the gross amount you've learned. This is the amount
you take home after taxes.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Yeah, that's a big one, right, And that's why as
people earn and I'll check the current number used to
be sixty thousand.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
It's probably a little higher now.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
But as people earn more than x, and X isn't enormous,
you know, majority vote Republican. Yeah, it's just those life
experiences and it's not selfishness or anything like that. It's
just common sense acquired.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Over the years. Dan, So, why are abortions up since
the overturning of Roe v. Wade?
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Fair question, But keep in mind, first of all, that
they aren't up nearly as much as they would be
if roe v Wade wasn't overturned right now, what you're
seeing is that this particular evil now this availability, easy
availability of chemical abortions, which is what abby drug induced abortion,
which is what Abbi Johnson and I were talking about
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earlier today on the show. So yes, of course you're
going to see the numbers go up when people now
don't have to go to the death star to kill
the child, you know, when it can just be in.
So often when this is happening, women are under pressure
from others, right Maybe it's a guy who used them
for sex, Maybe it's family pressure, maybe it's financial, maybe
it's some other kind of pressure. The law says it's legal,
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so that's kind of a green light way out of
a really hard situation. And so often there isn't anybody
there just making the winning point that hey, you know,
the solution to our hardest problems can never be taking
innocent human life. So of course easy availability of these
chemical abortions, those numbers are going to go up. I
think the numbers would be much higher if Roe.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
V Wade was still in effect.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Dan Swift needs ten more years of life before she
can be the subject of your show. Maybe it will
be good. I'm not sure I quite understand that. I
think it'll be fun to watch her age and evolve
as a person, as a musician, etc. Because I'm still
convinced and listen, Obviously she has some goofy lefty views.
I'm still convinced just going all those concerts with my
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daughter that she is a good person at heart who
loves people and wants to spread love. And her concerts
are very positive. There's no politics talked, so I am
optimistic about her coming evolution. I think Travis Kelsey will
help with that. Do you think they'll sell stock in
those kids?
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Boy? If they did, I.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Would I would buy it. Is it going to be
like the singing tight End.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
For futures market on that?
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Holy cow?
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Yeah, that'll be wild, Dan Elvis, Yes, Swift no cool
stories from Jim Chief Jim Collier earlier about Elvis the
officer who admired Elvis's ring and Elvis took it off
his finger and gave it to him.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Everybody knows the story.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
I think of Elvis buying new cars, including Cadillacs, for
Denver police officers back in the day. Obviously, Dan really
questioning the Taylor Swift focus today, So am I Dan. Thanks,
I'll find another show to listen to this time slot.
Thank you for letting me know Dan, Abby too stoic.
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What do you think that means?
Speaker 5 (26:59):
Abby was too sh I don't know about that.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Well, I think, yeah, we've got to pop this break
that's to bed. We'll come back with calls and text.
Abbie Johnson, true true hero of the pro life movement
with me earlier, and she did sound let's just say, concerned,
very concerned about whether the pro life movement was ready
for the fall of Roe, ready to go out and
win this next battle, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
And I get it.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
You know, there is battle fatigue for people who are
in the middle of the movement, greatest civil rights movement
of our lifetime, fighting so hard for so many years.
There can be battle fatigue, but so many objective reasons
to believe that I'm right on this because, as I
told Abbey, and pardon the language of kids are in
the car. You know that the pro abortion movement is
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getting their ass kicked, and it's a great time to
be pro life and a tremendous future ahead.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
You're on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Taylor Swift that applied to a lot more than just
Taylor Swift. But I do want to talk to you
about maybe the worst judicial decision since Roe versus Way
just came down today. I can't even believe this headline
is true, so extraordinarily wrong and dangerous. How much how
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much time do you think the guy who tried to assassinate.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Justice Kavanaugh got?
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Now, he planned this out, planned this out very methodically
for a long time, did all of his research, got
the killing tools, including the gun.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
He had a plan, he intended to execute it.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
He intended to execute the justice because of the justices
Justice Kavanaugh's expected support for overturning Roe v. Wait, so remember,
as you do, Ryan, there's this leak, there's this leak
from someone still unidentified in the Supreme Court circles of
the Justice Alito draft that Roe is going to be overturned.
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And that's when this killer began to plot to kill
Justice Kavanaugh so that he would there would not be
enough votes to overturn Roe.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
And so he was sentenced today. What do you think
his sentence was?
Speaker 5 (29:17):
Ten years?
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Yeah, his sentence the prosecutor seeking thirty which seemed light
to me, and the sentence was just a little over
eight years, not.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
Too far off, and I was guessing what I thought
would happen. I think in the aftermath of this too, Dan,
and you can check my work on this, but I
believe I'm right. I've been paying careful attention to this
on two fronts. One the perpetrator later identified as trans.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Yes, now identifies as Sophie.
Speaker 5 (29:46):
Okay, So that's one element.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
And the other one is if the clerk for a
conservative justice had leaked to this, dude, do you think
we would know who it is? Because I've bet one
hundred dollars we would know.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
We'd know what.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Jail they were in. Yeah, right, Yeah, yeah, no, we
sure would. But yeah, so this is so horrific on
so many different levels, right, And how does this even happen?
The federal judge in this case a Biden appointee, and
I don't often refer to judges that way. I mean,
after forty one years now practicing law and being a
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trial lawyer all forty one years, I just have consummate
respect for the bench. I understand it's a human process,
mistakes are going to be made, but I just truly
believe that the vast, fast, fast majority of judges, at
least the ones I've run into here and across the country,
just put on the robe and try as hard as
they can just to be fair and impartial. So I
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don't normally refer to Biden appointing Trump appointing whatever appointee,
but here I just I can't even wrap my mind
around this sentence. How do you get this kind of
sentence for somebody who planned to assassinate a US Supreme
Court justice. I don't care if they plan to assassinate
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a part time judge in a small town or a
US Supreme Court justice. A plan to assassinate any judge
at any level, that's got to bring the full force
of the law down on the head of that person.
And it's not because an individual one person's life is
worth more because there is Supreme Court justice versus a
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homeless person. It is a direct assault on our way
of life, our ability to function as a society, and
that thirty years would have been too little here. So
I don't see any rational way that you can get
to a little over eight years for this and deeply,
deeply disturbing sentence sending a very very very dangerous message.
(31:51):
I just I don't do criminal and I do catastrophic
injury and runful death cases.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
So I don't know. I'll look into it over the weekend.
If there's any.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Mechanism them to have this sentence appealed. I know there
would be for the defendant, but I'm not aware of
any for the prosecution. But I'll ask my partner John
Kellner about that and some others and see if there's
a way. Yeah, Nicholas Rosski now identifies as Sophie, and
the court, apparently, according to this news story, mentioned a
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concern over Rosky now having to serve the sentence in
a man's prison. But in any case, yeah, just eight
years for that.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
Just real quick on that element that you just pointed
out that this is a ruse, Dan, this is a joke.
I'm sorry, it's not a funny joke. But for somebody, yeah,
that might be pretty scared about going into a men's prison. No, no, no, no,
I'm trans put me in the women's prison just as
a cop out, an escape ramp.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
That shouldn't be allowed.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
You could shouldn't just be I'm a woman now and
just walk into women's prison.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, really disturbing, and hopefully there'll be
some strong reaction to this before Monday and then well
we'll follow up with it a bit on Monday show.
Text her Dan, You're obviously a Taylor Swift fan. You
have devoted a lot of airtime to her. There's a
fine line between being a fan and being a stalker.
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I'm very confident I'm on.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
The right side of that line.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
I am too.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
I didn't meet her once, which was kind of cool,
but that's one of the reasons for my positive impression
because you know, our daughter when she was young, was
one of maybe one hundred people who got to meet
her before a show one day, and you just that
the time and attention that Taylor Swift gave to each
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of those little kids. And I didn't meet her, I
didn't go shake her hand. I wanted her to have
that time with Caroline, but I was in the same room.
You can just there was just a real goodness there
This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast
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(00:20):
opportunity to talk with Abby, John's true hero of the
pro life movement, actually started out as a planned parenthood
clinic director talking about the fall of Roe, which I
think we agree, both agree has been a great thing,
but I think that it's going to lead to all
of these tremendous victories for the life movement. Abby has
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concerns for the reasons she expressed, so we'll continue that conversation.
It also included the issue of is President Trump a
great pro life president. My position is he's the most
pro life president in my lifetime, to be more precise,
the greatest pro life president in my lifetime, even if
he is personally pro cho and then Abby had a
(01:01):
different point of view, So great conversation there. Taylor Swift's
new album Life of a Showgirl dropped today and we're
talking about that, not so much in the music sense
though that's interesting too, right, but also in the broader
cultural sense. And it's always a hot button with the
wonderful folks who listen to this show, because many feel
it's wrong for me to be taking my daughter to
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her concerts, spending my money for Taylor Swift when she
supports all these left wing causes. And I'm like, whoa
wait a second, that that shouldn't be the task, right,
and do we not go to nuggets or Broncos or
other things like that because there are some players, big
salary players, who have different political points of view.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
That's always a fun conversation, but.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
You know, you know you are over the target when
you have a former Denver chief of police calling to
talk about Taylor Swift.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Chief Jim, how you doing, my friend? I am living
the dream. How have you been good?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Tell me your family is great?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Oh? Thank you, Chief? They are. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
And I had the real pleasure of going through this
last long trial with our daughter on the trial team
as she often is, and that that was just one
of the great things in life.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
How are you guys doing?
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Doing great? Sir? You know I have never I'm going
to admit my age girl, I have never heard a
Tator Swift song. Well, I've never been to one of
her concerts. You know, my my musical repertoires several decades back.
In fact, I last count I have four juke boxes
in my house.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Wow, they're probably worth a billion dollars.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Well, you know, I'm kind of going to take you
back to the rock and roll in the big band era.
But you know, one thing I like about Tator Swift
is I admire her for a lot of reasons. One
of them is I think that visually and the way
that she conducts herself, she's I think she's a positive
role model for young women and girls. She's not out
there all tattooed up and yelling profanity. And you know,
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I always appreciate that the way that she treats the
people around her. You know, she seems to be so
respectful of folks who see her in the box, and
fans will stand up and she'll talk with them, and
you know, do you remember that at the end of
one of her last tours, she kicked everybody one hundred
thousand dollars. The guy that drives the truck, the guy
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that puts up the stage, the you know, I just
don't leave for a while. And I don't share her politics,
but you know, I cancel her vote and she cancels mine.
And that's okay.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
That's like me and my wife.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
That's why we vote, you know, and my wife as well.
But you know, I got to tell you, from an
old guy's point of view, I admire her for many
many things. I don't share her politics, but I do
admire her the way she conducts herself, from the way
she treats folks.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Wow, what a great call. She appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Now, let me ask you, do you know any of
the guys or were you You wouldn't have been around
back when Elvis was given away Cadillacs to some of
the guys he was on the force, But do you
know any of those guys? Oh?
Speaker 3 (04:03):
I was. I was back there, of course I was.
I knew every well, yeah, I knew every one of them,
and I was never part of that cadre. But they
tell me that Elvis, if you would ever compliment him
on something like a ring, they take it off and
give it to you.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Wow, I mean, I've got a friend of mine that
has a ring. They said, Oh, man, Elvis that's beautiful,
and Elvis took it off and gave.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
It he is so awesome. That is that? Yeah, I
can't imagine what was.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
The story behind. I know we had Jerry Kennedy on
Captain Kennedy wants to talk about it, But but how
did Elvis end up given some of the guys Cadillacs.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
You know, that's an interesting story because Jerry Kennedy was
at the time was driving a SOB and he'd mentioned
something to Elvis about his SOB and Elvis said, no, no,
my friends don't. My friends don't drive sob. He took
him down to the to and there was four or
five guys and asked him, what do you want? And
I think Jerry took a Lincoln and the rest of
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them took Cadillacs.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
One of his spending one of his spendings Freeze And
there's a there's a great story that he was in
a Cadillac dealership one night and buying cars and the
janitor he told the janitor go out and pick the
one you want.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
That I'm just a tremendously kind person.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
That just makes me feel so good just hearing that story. Wow.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Well, Chief, thank you it's always a pleasure. Hope we
get you back here in studio before too long and
tell some stories.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
I'd look forward to it, sir, always listen to you.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Thank you, my friend. I appreciate that is Chief Jim Collier,
former Denver police chief. Always great to hear from the chief.
Three or three someone three eight, two, five, five the
number and right, can you bump us back the rest
of this hour? With this new Taylor Swift album, and
because I am so thing, well, just what you Oh yeah, yeah,
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not right.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
I don't think we're going to blow up programming for it.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
But because like you like, your niece, Brain's niece gave
a concerning review of the album, and she's a big fan.
I'm seeing more and more social media not as happy
with it as you would expect. But then the broader
Taylor Swift issues. I think her always's really interesting.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Just from a creative standpoint, and this is kind of
off the beaten path a little bit. I've noticed she
names a lot of songs that have already existed, and
we're pretty popular in the public sphere. For instance, Cruel
Summer that was a banana rama.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
Hit back in the eighties.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Oh sure, Well, Taylor Swift has a song called cool
Summer and on this album, on a previous album, Okay,
on this album, Taylor Swift has a song called father Figure.
Now come on, even you remember George Michael with Father
Figure in nineteen eighty sid.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
I didn't know that was going on.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
There's a lot of that there.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
I wonder why right, because.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
Maybe it's a slight tip like tip It.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Must be I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
It must be right because she wouldn't be doing it
for money, She wouldn't need to copyright in French.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
Yeah about it. If it's a totally different song. I
don't think she.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
You know, the previous artists secure the rights to that necessarily.
But it's just odd to me because those are just
two examples, and I know that I if I think
hard enough, there are more.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yeah. Yeah, it's.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Interesting text Pope poirie, Dan, don't let me ever say
that word again?
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Please?
Speaker 5 (07:28):
Why not?
Speaker 1 (07:28):
It's just not a manly word. Let me say like
corn cornicopia. That's a great poulpeper. No guy should say
pope pally.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
No, my god? Okay here, Oh at least my shirt's
still blue. Didn't turn pink? But oh oh dan? Uh
there was a time pig shirts were in.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
I remember the eighties. Don Johnson, Miami Vice.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Oh yeah, man, my first law clerk job. I remember,
I'd go, I'd have my pink shirt.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Feels so cool.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
Yeah yeah, and I bet you were.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
I don't think so.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
Flock of seagulls.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Haircut Oh no, Oh, my grandfather cut my hair until
I was a college sophomore.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
Saved money. Yeah, did you pay him at all?
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:15):
I saved a lot of money because I didn't have
any dates out. I don't know any dates I made money.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
People come up to me on the street, hand me
a bill and say, good luck, poor kid.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Yeah right, there has to be a charity for that kid.
I don't know what charity it is, but there's gotta
be bet for that kid. And I had the greatest
grandfather in the world, but probably should have played golf
instead of cut hair.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
There you go, yeah, but what a great man.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
Dan.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Please listen to your guests to Abby take off here.
I'm obsessed with Trump blinders and really listen.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Another texter, we're going to have to have a gofund
me for for those hearing aides. I guess the texter
didn't hear me say that, Hey, I think President Trump
may very well be pro choice himself, and I don't
care as long as what he's doing with his power
is pro life. So he has been the most pro
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life president of my lifetime in terms of power used
to protect innocent life. If he is personally pro choice,
you know.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
I don't like that.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
I'd like to try to persuade him, but I would
be okay with that as long as he used his
power to save innocent human life. And I challenge anybody
what president, what president in American history? And we can
start with Rowe right, what president in American history has
been more pro life in his.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Actions than Donald Trump?
Speaker 1 (09:46):
By the way, when we Quebec, also want to tell
you about the new coin if you haven't seen it yet,
that the President Trump on a one dollar coin. I'll
describe what it looks like. Get to react. You're on
the Dan Capla Show.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
And now back to the Dan Kapla Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
And I think she has a lot of great music
that just sounds like generic elevator pop, right, Like if
you're riding in an elevator somewhere and you.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Hear that, you just think it's ai.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
It sounds like you and my niece Sonya might agree
on this one.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Yeah, yeah, that is see Taylor Swift, her magic I
think has come over the years from her storytelling. And
you can do that pop right, you can do that
other ways, but that to me, yeah, that's like AI
elevator stuff right there.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Maybe it'll grow on you, but more like a fun guy,
I think.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Hey, let's go to the VIP line. One of our
favorite peeps, Lindsay, Datko is with us from Jeffco Kids.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
First. They have to be, if not the most successful,
one of the.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Most successful grassroots organizations in the history of this beautiful state. Lindsay,
welcome back to the dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 6 (10:55):
Thank you, It's so good to be back on here.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Yeah, you guys have so many ws. Where do you
fly all those flags?
Speaker 2 (11:02):
I mean, like big wins over the years.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
It seems like one hundred years ago, right, the battle
over masks and everything else. But you guys got right
in the middle of that and you were.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
You were getting people fired, you were, you know, getting
masks off kids.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
I mean, you guys have quite the track record and
the latest fight is over this twenty twenty five Healthy
Kids Survey please tell everybody what's up with that.
Speaker 6 (11:25):
Yeah, so this is a statewide survey. It's important to
know that it is jointly funded by the CDC and
the state, So CDPHD is involved in writing questions.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Locals.
Speaker 6 (11:38):
School districts administer this highly invasive survey. So for example,
every two years they put out this survey and schools
in school districts across Colorado are randomly selected and they
take this forty five minute survey and Jack Coo, there
are seventeen schools this year. It is just known to
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be highly invasive. It's really throwing parents the topics that
they go into detail. So it's important for parents to
be aware and to know they can opt out by law.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
It tell people all kind of stuff because I remember
a few years ago I had to get into the
methodology of the Healthy Kids Survey, and if there's time,
we can talk about that a little bit. But people
put so much stock in this. But there aren't that
many kids surveyed, is that right?
Speaker 6 (12:26):
Yeah, not too many. I know that they definitely don't
want kids opting out because they get grant funding for this,
and that's very clearly stated. But here's a list of
some topic, gender identity, sexual identity, sexual violence. So it's
basically asking kids if they've ever been raped or if
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they have ever exhibited that behavior. Mental health and suicide,
home life questions, body image and eating disorder, substance use
with prescription pills, marijuana, nicotine, electronic vapor products, gun violence
and gun access, which Jeff costs school is removed after
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the Evergreen shooting, racism, bullying, all kinds of issues and
their extensive invasive questioning.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
And is there any opt out procedure at this point?
Speaker 6 (13:22):
There should be. That is one problem that many parents.
You see, it's a tiny link often in their weekly
school emails, and by law they should be given this
through the student Privacy protection laws.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Yeah, and these are for seventh creators.
Speaker 6 (13:39):
Actually sixth through twelfth.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Oh man, yeah, it is.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
So the concern at this point, obviously, is that there's
not a big, screaming opt out right that the parents. Okay,
it's unmistakable. Hey, here's what's happening. Give this some thought
and give us your reason to considered decision.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Correct.
Speaker 6 (14:00):
Yes, schools really should be sending there a separate email
dedicated us to healthy kids, and that's not happening.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Yeah, Wow, and you suspect and it sounds like it
because yeah, schools don't want people opt out, and they're
afraid if they took a hard look at this, they
would opt out absolutely.
Speaker 6 (14:19):
And again, for example, the Jefferson County School District and
JEFCO Public Health lost a grant, a big grant, and
we're docked points on grand grant applications because they had.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
So few students.
Speaker 6 (14:33):
And so we see Doug CO who just passed the
motion for opt in, while at the same time jeff
Co requires opt out and you can see why here.
What's the funding behind it?
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Now, lindsay, is there a full survey that somebody could
take a look at.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
It is available online somewhere.
Speaker 6 (14:55):
It is and you can pretty easily google it. We
definitely app through open records for dates and schools they
have pushed back on us on in the past. I'm
getting those we knew we were able to get it.
We post that along with a link to those surveys.
They may very slightly by district, but you could pretty
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much google and find I know, like Mesa County has
a very visible link up for people to see and
you can see generally what that survey is about.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Yeah, and I'd suggest parents do that. And it seems
to me, just as one parent kids trying to picture
the kids being back in sixth seventh eighth grade. Again,
you know, my concern is a parent. I'm sure it's
the same for everybody else. Is always okay, what's best
for my child, right, And of course you want to
do good things for the community and everything else, but
it all starts with, you know, Papa bear, what's best
(15:49):
for my child and is actually diving into this survey
and all the issues it raises and everything else, you know,
best for my child.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
And yeah, I'm I'm.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Glad you're just calling everybody's attention to this because every
parent obviously wants to make that decision with all the.
Speaker 6 (16:05):
Info exactly, and it does drive social emotional learning curriculum.
And I know Larimer County at one point was reporting
that half of their students who took the survey identified
as LGBTQ. So that's five zero person.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
But this goes back to where we started the conversation,
which is the whole methodology and is this and I
underlining the word is because I haven't paid much attention
to this survey in a few years. Is this set
up so that the kids who are likely to reject
it are from conservative families and the kids who are
more likely to be allowed to take it are from
(16:45):
you know, more liberal families, and so you're going to
get these skewed results that then you know, allow educators,
you know, to move in the direction they want to
move in because of political ideology. Is that what's going on?
Speaker 6 (16:58):
That's certainly what we are thinking that these results are
absolutely skewed because of students that are more likely to
take it for parents from parents that are not as
aware or opting out versus those who are very involved
in How that skews the results and drives curriculum for
all students.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Fascinating.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Well, Lindsay, thank you, thanks for bringing this to everybody's attention.
I'm going to make it a point to look at
that over the weekend as well, and maybe we have
some follow up.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
What's the window here?
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Is this survey already been done for twenty five Are
we in the middle of a phase here?
Speaker 6 (17:33):
We are in jeff Coo schools and I imagine it's
probably a seasonal survey. Everyone would need to check their
own district, but it goes through November eighteenth, in Jeffco Schools.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Well, hey, really appreciate it, lindsay. As always, how can
people reach your group in the ten seconds we have?
Speaker 6 (17:50):
Yeah, we have duffco Kids First dot com as our
website or join our Facebook group of nine thousand supporters
and followers jeff Co Kids First.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Please do that. They do great work.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
We're talking about that Taylor Swift's new album dropping today,
and I know you probably don't care about her music,
totally respect that.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
I'm kind of intrigued by it.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Kis Caroline and I have been going to Taylor Swift
concerts together since she was a little girl. But the
broader issues to me are more interesting, you know, with
so many people saying it's wrong to go to her
concerts because then you're supporting left wing causes. What so
is it wrong to go to a Bronco game if
you don't like the politics of the quarterback, which in
this case, I like his politics. But you know, you
(18:41):
go to a Nuggets game. You know some players I
really like. I'm pretty sure their politics are different than mine.
Should we not be going three or three?
Speaker 5 (18:49):
Someone?
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Three?
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Eight?
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Two five five. The number not my view.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
My view is no, it's hey, you know, we can disagree.
We can disagree about the most important issues out there
and still appreciate the other person's talents and strengths.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Eric and Loveak. You're on the dan Kaplas. You'll welcome.
Speaker 7 (19:07):
Yes, sir, I'm not a swifty by any means, but
I think it was twenty ten, twenty eleven in that neighborhood.
I wanted to brush up on some of my guitar skills,
not that I have a lot, but it was a
long time since a kid I could play with it.
But I wanted a little bit of help. So I
(19:27):
went into the music store and I was up in
Fort Collins, and everywhere was Taylor Swift books on how to.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
Play piano and guitar.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
And she was a scrun, a little twelve fifteen year old.
Speaker 7 (19:43):
I don't know when she made those books, but her
foundation isn't teaching people how to play music. Wow wow,
And all this music is just the icceen sprinkles and
cherry on top of her big foundation.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
So wow, roval for her going.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Kind of like what you know, you know.
Speaker 7 (20:03):
That you capture the young people you teach them kind
of like what Charlie Kirk did.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Yeah, and you.
Speaker 7 (20:10):
Know, fifteen twenty years later, all of a sudden they're like, hey,
I'm not a liberal.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
I know better.
Speaker 7 (20:17):
Same thing here. So she she came up, I think
a fantastic way. And that's that's probably what's throwing everybody
off that It's like, how could she get so popular?
Speaker 3 (20:26):
I think it's.
Speaker 7 (20:27):
Because her foundation is teaching people music, how to read it,
how to play it, how you know, because you see
her play on stage.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
It's I don't know about the piano, but she she
you know, she has music, and it's.
Speaker 7 (20:42):
Not the old stuff. Taylor Swift has has new music
that you can learn how to play, not the three
eggs and ham that I used to remember as playing
guitar and piano as a kid.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Wow, that is a cool story, man, Thank you. I
did not know that was part of all that. Yeah,
And that wouldn't have surprise me, right, because I understand
I don't like her politics.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
But but a couple of things. First, don't be surprised
if her.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Politics change over time, which is just one of so
many reasons, right not to just just you know, ostracize people,
force them out of your life, whatever because politics is different,
or not to go watch particular you know, artists or whatever.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
I wouldn't be.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
At all surprised, and mark my words on this, right,
and then we'll get back to some textures. I wouldn't
be at all surprised if Taylor Swift ends up pro life,
and I wouldn't be surprised if that change happens as
soon as she sees the first ultrasound for her first child,
you know, and so and then gets further away from
you know, the whole Hollywood circle and influences and everything else.
(21:45):
So yeah, just don't don't give up on people, especially
when you're one hundred percent sure that your cause is right, right,
and when you look at there's no cause on the
face of the earth where there's more powerful objective evidence,
and there is for the pro life cause. So starting
point is you know your cause is right, then just
have to be very thoughtful about how to persuade and
(22:08):
how to prevail, whether it's politically one on one, et cetera.
So yeah, if we were in Vegas, Ryan and there
was a bed available on Taylor Swift becoming pro life.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
Oh, that's very specific, like you have.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Four yeah, and if it's Vegas, right, they would probably
stage it out. What are the odds before she turns
forty she's thirty five. Now, before she turns fifty, I
would wager a lot she's pro life by the time
she turns forty five.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
It's very interesting because I think that fundamental change occurs
exactly when you said that, God willing. I think I
wish for them, and I think you do too, that
her and Travis Kelsey live a long, beautiful life together
and they have many children. I bet they do, and
the first one, that's the one. I mean this way
back in time, but when my mom was pregnant with me,
it changed her life and she didn't need any proof
(22:57):
or any kind of convincing to be pro life.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
She always was.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Nobody's ever shown you the ultrasounds said look at my feet,
is the liner right? Or yeah, that baby's kicking in there,
and they say, oh a club a tessue keeps taking me.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
You know, nobody ever.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
Says that a lot of fallacy.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
No, so no, Yeah, it'll be very interesting to watch that.
But some text on that Dan Taylor may change her
politics or maybe you will that's not far more likely
she does. But that's just a product of agent experience. Right, Well,
why do you think so many more people become conservative
as they get older? They just learn more, you know,
(23:35):
not on life I've I've been thanks to my mom,
very educated on that since you know, role, but on
other issues like gun rights, et cetera. My view has
changed over time as I learn more.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure a lot of young people, especially
when you get that first paycheck and you see, this
is the gross amount you've learned. This is the amount
you take home after taxes.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Yeah, that's a big one, right, And that's why as
people earn and I'll check the current number used to
be sixty thousand.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
It's probably a little higher now.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
But as people earn more than x, and X isn't enormous,
you know, majority vote Republican. Yeah, it's just those life
experiences and it's not selfishness or anything like that. It's
just common sense acquired.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Over the years. Dan, So, why are abortions up since
the overturning of Roe v. Wade?
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Fair question, But keep in mind, first of all, that
they aren't up nearly as much as they would be
if roe v Wade wasn't overturned right now, what you're
seeing is that this particular evil now this availability, easy
availability of chemical abortions, which is what abby drug induced abortion,
which is what Abbi Johnson and I were talking about
(24:44):
earlier today on the show. So yes, of course you're
going to see the numbers go up when people now
don't have to go to the death star to kill
the child, you know, when it can just be in.
So often when this is happening, women are under pressure
from others, right Maybe it's a guy who used them
for sex, Maybe it's family pressure, maybe it's financial, maybe
it's some other kind of pressure. The law says it's legal,
(25:08):
so that's kind of a green light way out of
a really hard situation. And so often there isn't anybody
there just making the winning point that hey, you know,
the solution to our hardest problems can never be taking
innocent human life. So of course easy availability of these
chemical abortions, those numbers are going to go up. I
think the numbers would be much higher if Roe.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
V Wade was still in effect.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Dan Swift needs ten more years of life before she
can be the subject of your show. Maybe it will
be good. I'm not sure I quite understand that. I
think it'll be fun to watch her age and evolve
as a person, as a musician, etc. Because I'm still
convinced and listen, Obviously she has some goofy lefty views.
I'm still convinced just going all those concerts with my
(25:54):
daughter that she is a good person at heart who
loves people and wants to spread love. And her concerts
are very positive. There's no politics talked, so I am
optimistic about her coming evolution. I think Travis Kelsey will
help with that. Do you think they'll sell stock in
those kids?
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Boy? If they did, I.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Would I would buy it. Is it going to be
like the singing tight End.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
For futures market on that?
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Holy cow?
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Yeah, that'll be wild, Dan Elvis, Yes, Swift no cool
stories from Jim Chief Jim Collier earlier about Elvis the
officer who admired Elvis's ring and Elvis took it off
his finger and gave it to him.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Everybody knows the story.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
I think of Elvis buying new cars, including Cadillacs, for
Denver police officers back in the day. Obviously, Dan really
questioning the Taylor Swift focus today, So am I Dan. Thanks,
I'll find another show to listen to this time slot.
Thank you for letting me know Dan, Abby too stoic.
(26:56):
What do you think that means?
Speaker 5 (26:59):
Abby was too sh I don't know about that.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Well, I think, yeah, we've got to pop this break
that's to bed. We'll come back with calls and text.
Abbie Johnson, true true hero of the pro life movement
with me earlier, and she did sound let's just say, concerned,
very concerned about whether the pro life movement was ready
for the fall of Roe, ready to go out and
win this next battle, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
And I get it.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
You know, there is battle fatigue for people who are
in the middle of the movement, greatest civil rights movement
of our lifetime, fighting so hard for so many years.
There can be battle fatigue, but so many objective reasons
to believe that I'm right on this because, as I
told Abbey, and pardon the language of kids are in
the car. You know that the pro abortion movement is
(27:45):
getting their ass kicked, and it's a great time to
be pro life and a tremendous future ahead.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
You're on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Taylor Swift that applied to a lot more than just
Taylor Swift. But I do want to talk to you
about maybe the worst judicial decision since Roe versus Way
just came down today. I can't even believe this headline
is true, so extraordinarily wrong and dangerous. How much how
(28:25):
much time do you think the guy who tried to assassinate.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Justice Kavanaugh got?
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Now, he planned this out, planned this out very methodically
for a long time, did all of his research, got
the killing tools, including the gun.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
He had a plan, he intended to execute it.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
He intended to execute the justice because of the justices
Justice Kavanaugh's expected support for overturning Roe v. Wait, so remember,
as you do, Ryan, there's this leak, there's this leak
from someone still unidentified in the Supreme Court circles of
the Justice Alito draft that Roe is going to be overturned.
(29:03):
And that's when this killer began to plot to kill
Justice Kavanaugh so that he would there would not be
enough votes to overturn Roe.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
And so he was sentenced today. What do you think
his sentence was?
Speaker 5 (29:17):
Ten years?
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Yeah, his sentence the prosecutor seeking thirty which seemed light
to me, and the sentence was just a little over
eight years, not.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
Too far off, and I was guessing what I thought
would happen. I think in the aftermath of this too, Dan,
and you can check my work on this, but I
believe I'm right. I've been paying careful attention to this
on two fronts. One the perpetrator later identified as trans.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Yes, now identifies as Sophie.
Speaker 5 (29:46):
Okay, So that's one element.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
And the other one is if the clerk for a
conservative justice had leaked to this, dude, do you think
we would know who it is? Because I've bet one
hundred dollars we would know.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
We'd know what.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Jail they were in. Yeah, right, Yeah, yeah, no, we
sure would. But yeah, so this is so horrific on
so many different levels, right, And how does this even happen?
The federal judge in this case a Biden appointee, and
I don't often refer to judges that way. I mean,
after forty one years now practicing law and being a
(30:21):
trial lawyer all forty one years, I just have consummate
respect for the bench. I understand it's a human process,
mistakes are going to be made, but I just truly
believe that the vast, fast, fast majority of judges, at
least the ones I've run into here and across the country,
just put on the robe and try as hard as
they can just to be fair and impartial. So I
(30:42):
don't normally refer to Biden appointing Trump appointing whatever appointee,
but here I just I can't even wrap my mind
around this sentence. How do you get this kind of
sentence for somebody who planned to assassinate a US Supreme
Court justice. I don't care if they plan to assassinate
(31:05):
a part time judge in a small town or a
US Supreme Court justice. A plan to assassinate any judge
at any level, that's got to bring the full force
of the law down on the head of that person.
And it's not because an individual one person's life is
worth more because there is Supreme Court justice versus a
(31:26):
homeless person. It is a direct assault on our way
of life, our ability to function as a society, and
that thirty years would have been too little here. So
I don't see any rational way that you can get
to a little over eight years for this and deeply,
deeply disturbing sentence sending a very very very dangerous message.
(31:51):
I just I don't do criminal and I do catastrophic
injury and runful death cases.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
So I don't know. I'll look into it over the weekend.
If there's any.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Mechanism them to have this sentence appealed. I know there
would be for the defendant, but I'm not aware of
any for the prosecution. But I'll ask my partner John
Kellner about that and some others and see if there's
a way. Yeah, Nicholas Rosski now identifies as Sophie, and
the court, apparently, according to this news story, mentioned a
(32:21):
concern over Rosky now having to serve the sentence in
a man's prison. But in any case, yeah, just eight
years for that.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
Just real quick on that element that you just pointed
out that this is a ruse, Dan, this is a joke.
I'm sorry, it's not a funny joke. But for somebody, yeah,
that might be pretty scared about going into a men's prison. No, no, no, no,
I'm trans put me in the women's prison just as
a cop out, an escape ramp.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
That shouldn't be allowed.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
You could shouldn't just be I'm a woman now and
just walk into women's prison.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, really disturbing, and hopefully there'll be
some strong reaction to this before Monday and then well
we'll follow up with it a bit on Monday show.
Text her Dan, You're obviously a Taylor Swift fan. You
have devoted a lot of airtime to her. There's a
fine line between being a fan and being a stalker.
(33:14):
I'm very confident I'm on.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
The right side of that line.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
I am too.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
I didn't meet her once, which was kind of cool,
but that's one of the reasons for my positive impression
because you know, our daughter when she was young, was
one of maybe one hundred people who got to meet
her before a show one day, and you just that
the time and attention that Taylor Swift gave to each
(33:42):
of those little kids. And I didn't meet her, I
didn't go shake her hand. I wanted her to have
that time with Caroline, but I was in the same room.
You can just there was just a real goodness there
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