In his first national interview since being sworn in as Vice President, J.D. Vance spars with Face the Nation's Margaret Brennan on myriad topics - including illegal immigration. In the process, he implies leadership in the Catholic Church (and specifically Catholic Charities) is more concerned about their bottom line when it comes to helping illegal aliens than actually helping people.
Dan launches a defense of the Church and draws some heat from texters and callers on his criticism of Vance.
Dan launches a defense of the Church and draws some heat from texters and callers on his criticism of Vance.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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to a rocket fuel start and winning on every single
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front right now.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
So it's a beautiful thing to behold.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
I really think we're at kind of a tipping point
moment for this nation, and so much reason to believe,
as do tipping points when they happen, that we're going
to see this snowball effect and we're going to see
this exponential improvement. As people get a taste of this success,
you know, such as the rate last night in Adams
County took forty to fifty TDA members allegedly here illegally,
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that's a beautiful thing to behold. And Americans get a
taste of that, they're going to want more and more,
right because we've gotten so used under leftist rule to
things just getting worse all the time, getting more and
more dangerous. And when you start to realize, wait a
second note, is possible for things to actually get safer
in each and every one of those TDA members hopefully
deported after last night. This state gets safer in a
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tangible way. So beautiful thing to see. And we all
know that that winning but gets winning right, because it
increases political capital, increases confidence, increases momentum, it increases everything,
including young people coming up into politics who then decide
they want to be conservative, etc. So now this is
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a breakthrough moment which goes back to and a lot
of people mock and I'm not saying listeners to this show,
but it was back to what I said at the time.
I do believe that God saved Donald Trump in that field.
And you can see all of the benefits of America's
reaping from that very moment, right. Can you imagine how
America would have been just torn asunder if that assassin
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had succeeded in that field that day. But now all
of the other benefits to come in. For those on
the pro life side who were worried that Donald Trump
would not be pro life in his second term, what
more could you ask from anybody than his first week
when he has done so much, very very tangible stuff
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to help advance the cause of life. And I have
no doubt that as he gets more judicial appointments, you'll see.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
That as well. So anyway, lots to kick around today.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
We've also been talking about just the all you can
do is laugh type deception from Jared Poulis now as
he sees the success Trump's having and that it's turning
into a seventy thirty eighty twenty issue in America and
Trump's on the right side and Polis is on the
wrong side. Polis now trying to recast himself as this
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great crusader against illegal immigration, when the simple fact is
he signed the bills that made Colorado a sanctuary state
and made it a lot harder for a law enforcement
to cooperate with ice to get criminal illegals deported. The
bills are there his signatures on. I mean, he's not
claiming anybody forged it. He's just lying about what they do.
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So we've been enjoying that together today as well, So
lots to do. Jd Vance just dismantled Margaret Brennan in
an interview on Face the Nation over the weekend, and
it was a beautiful thing to behold, with one exception
that I talked about earlier, but a beautiful thing to
behold because again, it's so important now that what President
Trump is achieving become long lasting, and that means not
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just having Republican elected to another four years in twenty eight.
It means having the right kind of Republican who's going
to approach it from a policy standpoint much the same
way Trump does.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
And JD. Vance gives every indication of being that guy.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
So we've been enjoying some of that sound together as well,
So we've got that to do. I do want to
get to some other local stories, though, and we'll get
back to this JD. Vance thing, because he was so
right about virtually everything. Excuse me not getting emotional. It's
a peanut butter, though. I almost got emotional during that
game yesterday. I so so wanted to see Josh Allen
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win that game in the Bills. And Ryan just brief
digression into sports the great irony, and there's kind of
a life lesson in this is that the single greatest
play of Josh Allen's career was the play the game
ended on the play where Buffalo lost.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
But it's just.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
An important life lesson, right And for those who are
watching the game who don't care about football, I guess
Josh Allen. It's fourth down. He has to get ten
yards to continue the game. The opponent, Kansas City, mounts
this beautiful, creative blitz, so Josh Allen has no time
to find his receivers and throw the ball down field,
and miraculously, through sheer athleticism, a quick mind, et cetera,
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he manages to to shake free enough to throw a
ball about thirty thirty five yards to.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
A receiver who was right there. The ball was in
his hands. Dalton concaid.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
If that ball is caught, yeah, it's the single greatest
play by a quarterback in the history of the NFL.
I'd have been And you know, they at the very
least they tie the game, they're probably going to win
the game through no fault of Josh Allen's. It's once again,
Josh Allen didn't make it to a Super Bowl. So
it's just it's a life lesson, right, the greatest play
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of his career ends in failure because somebody else didn't
do their part.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
I'm just dazzled really by Buffalo Bills and this luck
that seems to have Befallen Josh Allen, but not just that.
And then from the aspect the viewpoint of the Broncos
fan who hates the Chiefs, and I agree an a
Lions fan where every call that could be absolutely bonkers
going against the Lions has ever happened, namely the last
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time there was a borderline call or even egregious call,
any category of call that's gone against the Chiefs in
that game, every single one of them what Kansas City's
roll And it's not the first time, and.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
We all know why, we all know why, and the
initials are ts.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
I'm serious. The NFL is all about money. Listen and listen.
We got to get back to other stuff. But this
drives me.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Crazy, right because our son played football, not at pro level,
but he played football and was great. But if the
NFL cared about safety at all at all, face mask
would be reviewable, right, I mean, they don't care about
safety and they care about money. They care about ratings.
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Taylor Swift is good for ratings. How many more eyeballs
do you have on these games because somebody watching who
doesn't know a pig skin from a baseball wants to
see Taylor Swift a picture of Taylor Swift up in
the box. No, but listen, I have never hated Kansas City.
I cannot hate Kansas City because we have so many
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wonderful relatives in Kansas. You know, I root for the Broncos,
but I don't sit there and root against Kansas City.
I just wanted to see Josh Allen advance, So just
that life lesson part there. Anyway, another story I want
to get to here, and then we're going to tee
up some of this jd Vance that may spill over
to the next segment. But I'm getting the predictably passionate
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in disagreement texts that I want to get to on this.
I had predicted I think, at least off air, that
one hundred percent of listener feedback today would be opposed
to me on my one criticism of JD Vance. All
I've done is praise the guy for all the great
things he's done, including today one criticism, and then all
of a sudden, I'm all these things Texters are saying.
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But we will get to that. We'll have that sound
for the next segment. But what do you think of
this one? This story just popping up in the Denver Post.
John Aguilar real good reporter Representative Brittany Peterson, a new
mother again calls for remote v voting in Congress by
parents of newborns.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
So what do you think about that?
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Should she be permitted to vote remotely so from her
home in Colorado or somewhere else, but not in Congress
because of her newborn? Would love your take on that.
Eight F five for zero five A two five five
text d an five seven seven three nine. So she says, quote,
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Congress makes no accommodations for new parents. So while I'm
recovering and taking care of my newborn at this critical time,
it's incredibly unfair that my constituents will not have a
voice in Congress until I am physically able to return
to Washington. No member should have to choose between caring
for their newborn and representing their constituents. The bill that
she's proposing would also provide for the husband if if
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his wife gave birth and the husband happened to be
the congressman, to skip out on the vote or to
vote remotely.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
So what do you think of that?
Speaker 1 (09:00):
And listen, conceptually, there's just there's nothing more important in
America than mothers and mothers having babies, And conceptually, I'm
all in favor of accommodating that. The problem is, I
don't see anyway. Maybe I'm missing something you could tell me.
I don't see any way to accommodate that without allowing
remote voting for everybody, because once you allow that, how
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do you not allow a thousand other compelling justifications. I
just I don't see how you can make any exceptions
like that without all of a sudden becoming a Congress
where people don't even go to Washington and can just
vote from all over the country. And maybe you think
that'd be good for America. Maybe you can make a
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good case for that, but I think right now that
would be bad for the country.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
So love your thoughts on that.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Also, when we come back, fascinating you know, the spree
killer on the mall, the spree killer on the mall,
who slit that flight attendant's throat stabbed to death, that
thirty four year old man tried to kill two others,
that's free killer on them all. That the Post just
did a major profile on him, and you won't believe
what they left out of the profile.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
You're on the Dan Capla Show.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Yeah, it's expected some fiery responses my one criticism of JD.
Vans I praise everything else he does. Why because he
deserves that praise. I'm an honest man. Somebody deserves praise,
I praise him, but I give you the why. Somebody
deserves criticism, I criticize them and I give you the why.
And that's the case with JD.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Vance.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
So I want to play this sound right now, quick setup.
If you just joined the show, thank you. Been playing
a lot of sound of JD. Vance doing marvelously well
once again against Margaret Brunnan. Unfaced the nation this weekend,
and my point being that he is probably going to
be Trump's successor, and that's going to be really good
for America. But he said something in the course of
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responding to the Conference of Catholic Bishops who were critical
of some of President Trump's executive orders on immigration. He
then attacked the bishops as being motivated by money, which
is patently ludicrous. And he must knows that doesn't mean
the bishops are right on everything.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
They're only human.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
I think the bishops right a lot more than the
rest of us are right, but they're still only human.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
But to say they're money.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Motivated, no, he's got to know that it's untrue, and
it's a below the belt shot, and it's really beneath
his dignity, Vance's dignity and the dignity of the office.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
The US Conference of Catholic Bishops this week condemned some
of the executive orders signed by President Trump, specifically those
allowing immigration and customs enforcement to enter churches and to
enter schools.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Do you personally.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
Support the idea of conducting a raid or enforcement action
in a church service at a school.
Speaker 6 (11:56):
Well, let me let me address this. Of course, if
you have a person who is convicted of a violent crime,
whether they're an illegal immigrant or a non illegal immigrant,
you have to go and get that person to protect
the public safety. That's not unique to immigration. But let
me just address the Well, pause it there.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
For a second, Ry, because I agree with that JD.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Vance just said, and I've said it before that it's
like any other law enforcement scenario. And if you've got
a known criminal they're pursuing again people here illegally who
have committed other crimes, you've got to be able to
pursue them anywhere in the interest of public safety, including
the safety of people in those facilities.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Thank you, Ryan, Please.
Speaker 6 (12:32):
For it, because as a practicing Catholic, I was actually
heartbroken by that statement. And I think that the US
Conference of Catholic Bishops needs to actually look in the
mirror a little bit and recognize that when they receive
over one hundred million dollars to help resettle illegal immigrants,
are they worried about humanitarian concerns or are they actually
worried about their bottom line?
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Would you start that?
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Because I got to tell you, I've been on air
thirty years and that's one of the most dishonest, insidious
things I've ever heard of person say. And what makes
it worse is I admire Jdvans. I would vote for
him for president, but he knows that's dishonest to say
that these bishops now are motivated by money instead of
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humanitarian concerns. Really, Jdvans, Really, what's in your bank account?
What's in my bank account? You got a beautiful wife.
I got a beautiful wife. You got beautiful kids. I
got beautiful kids. These people who are bishops, these people
who are priests, they give up money, they give up wealth,
they give up sex, they give up all that great
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stuff to go out and save souls and serve the poor,
and you're gonna sit there on national TV ripping them,
saying they're money grubbers. That's crap. That's beneath you. It's
beneath the office. And I don't care how much I
admire you on other fronts.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
That is crap. And that's what the Left does.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
You must be afraid you can't win the policy argument,
which I don't get because you've got great policy arguments
to make. But to go after them personally like that,
I think that's an intimidation attempt. I think that is
a premeditated, deliberate intimidation attempt to try to get the
bishops to back down, to try to get the church
to back down when the church disagrees, which is really
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remarkable since the Catholic vote probably delivered you to the
White House. And I think you've said that JD Vance
and then to pull a Biden, which is to preface
an unfair attack on Catholics by saying, oh, it's a
devout Catholic. It's heartbreaking for me. No, what you just did?
You know that was cheap? You know what was wrong?
You know it's patently false. Give me any evidence to
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suggest that these bishops who have given up all that
stuff to devote their lives to serving the poor, etc.
Are now going to sacrifice humanitarian concerns for money.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Will give me.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
One bit of evidence supporting that Jdvans and one bit
of evidence suggesting that somehow any of this money and
a hundre millions a lot, right, But you spread one
hundred million out across this entire country, and you spread
it out across all of the poor people who are
being served by Catholic charities in a much more efficient
way than the government could ever do it themselves. I
guarantee you the Catholic Charities is serving saving the government
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billions by doing the work that they do with whatever
governmental support they get, because they do it better than anybody,
and certainly infinitely better than the government. So really, one
shred of evidence that they're doing it for money, one
shred of evidence that one dollar of that money has
ever made the life of a single Catholic priest or
Catholic bishop more comfortable. No, what happens with that money
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is it goes to feed, it goes to clothe, and
the Catholic Charities make that money go a lot further
so that it really, man, it's so strange for a
guy I admire so much and to praise so much
to do something that low and that wrong. You want
to accuse somebody of being money grubbers, you might want
to start with people who haven't taken this vow of
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charity and lived very modest lives compared to you and
me and most other people. Yeah, it's intimidation. It's an
intimidation tactic, and it is wrong. Let me read you,
by the way Colorado Bishops, the Colorado Bishops of Colorado,
including Archbishop Aquilla and the other bishops of Colorado, let
me read you their statement on illegal immigration. This includes
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Bishop Samuel Aquilla, he's Archbishop of Denver, and Bishop Stephen
Bergh Diocese of Pueblo, and Bishop James Golka Diocese of
Colorado Springs and Bishop Porte Rodriguez, Auxiliary Bishop in Denver. Here,
in part is what they say about immigration and immigration
policy in response to the President's orders. People have the
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right to migrate to sustain their lives. A country has
the right to regulate its borders and to control immigration.
A country must regulate its borders with justice and mercy.
You can find this in the Denver, but listen to
this verbatim. The Catholic Church teaches that while individuals and
their families have the right to migrate, no country has
the duty to receive so many immigrants that its social
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and economic life is jeopardized. The current state of the
American immigration system is decidedly broken. The process to achieve
temporary or permanent legal immigration status in the US takes
years and is expensive. The Center for Immigration Studies shows
the estimated number of migrants in the US is between
eleven million more than twenty two million, And then it
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goes on to document other numbers, and this is what
the bishops in Colorado just wrote. Since twenty twenty, the
US immigration system has grown more unlawful. The open border
immigration policy restricted immigration and custom enforcement ice ability to investigate,
arrest or deport spies, terrorists, and felons. This has resulted
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in loss of life and situations of unrest and violence,
including an Aurora, Colorado, where six recent migrant members of
the Venezuelan gang TDA were taken into custody. Then it
goes on to document, and I'll get into another segments,
more and more violence caused by legal immigration. So the
bishops have that right. This is an unfair attack by
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jd Vance.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
What was that, Ryan? I was waiting for music.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
That's personal Jesus by Depeche Mode.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Oh sorry, I couldn't make out the work, so it
certainly fits the conversation.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
This af turn.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Once I explained it right, we'll get back to the phone,
lenses said, and I will get to the text.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Here's the gist. If you just joined us, thank you.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
So I opened the show once again saying let the
celebration continue, documented that the tremendous triumphs Trump is heaven
and how it's so great for our nation. Praise jd
Vance for once again a great interview taking down the
national press. I criticize one thing, one thing, and all
of a sudden on public enemy number one.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
So to some of those tacks.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
But listen, hey, thirty years whatever it's been on air,
I don't know the number. I have made my bones
by being a straight shooter. I tell the truth, no
matter where the chips fall, and the truth is. When
Jade Vance came out and we played the tape and
he accused the Catholic bishops of America of turning their
back on humanitarian needs here, turning their back on all
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of the children being lost through ilegal immigration because they
wanted the money. Actually said, they want the one hundred
million dollars that get is more important to them.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
He knows that's false.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
It's one of the most obscene, insidious things ever said
by a public figure. And it's ludicrous on his face
right to suggest that that all of these bishops and
priests and everybody else who have taken this vow of
poverty and they live in listen. I was in a
Catholic seminary in high school, and my uncle's a priest.
I'm around a bunch of priests. I'm on the board
of Catholic Cherities Denver. I'm around priests.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
All the time. They're my heroes.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
And it to me, the fact that you had some
of the worst actors in human history, who so betrayed,
who so betrayed the priesthood by praying on miners, that
doesn't change my overall view of priests at all, not
one little bit, even though that is some of the
worst kind of evil imaginable, Because I know through my lifetime,
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I know the heroes priests are, and these bad apples,
these criminal actors, they don't change the truth about the
rest of the priests or the bishops. So for jd
Vance to sit there and claim that these bishops, who
he disagrees with on policy, don't care about the people,
they don't care about the children, they're just motivated by money.
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He knows that isn't true, and their whole lives prove that.
Their whole lives prove that. How ironic for Jady Vance
to say it. I mean, I admire the guy. I'll
vote Froim for president, but he makes a lot of money.
I make a lot of money. He has a beautiful wife.
I have a beautiful wife. We have all these luxuries,
we do all these great things. We're not taking vows
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of poverty. We're not devoting each and every minute of
our lives to serving the poor the way the bishops
and priests are. And he's going to sit there and
claim they're money grubbers who don't care about these children,
and that he's holier than them. Give me a frigging break. So, yeah,
he does a lot of good and I'd vote for him,
but this is garbage, and he knows it. That's the
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worst part. He knows it's garbage. And then let me
read before we get back to the phone lines and text.
I want to read to you some more from the
statement from the Colorado Catholic Bishops, and I read a
bit of it earlier, but I want to read some
more now because you're not going to read it in
the press anywhere. So while they write that, hey, you know,
people have a right to migrate to sustain their lives,
they also say a country has a right to regulate
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its borders and control immigration. But the Catholic Bishops of
Colorado say this specifically. Since twenty twenty, the US immigration
system has grown more unlawful. The quote open border immigration
policy restricted ice ability to investigate arrest to ports, spies, terrorists,
and felons. This has resulted in the loss of life
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and situations of unrest and violence, including an Aurora, Colorado,
where sixteen recent migrant members of the Venezueland Gang TDA
were taken into custody in December following an armed home
invasion and kidnapping. Additionally, right the Catholic Bishops in Colorado,
more families have been divided and children have been harmed
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Since twenty twenty right the bishops, the DHS has encountered
five hundred and fifteen thousand unaccompanied miners at the border.
Seventy five percent of them were reportedly sexually abused by
their smugglers. Drugs smuggling and human trafficking are on the
rise because of the open border policy. This is written
by the Catholic Bishops right here in Colorado. From October
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twenty two to April twenty three, Customs and Border Protections
sees more than seventeen thousand pounds of fentanyl at the
southern border and open border rights the bishops and open
border is not a just system, and it does create
damage to the dignity of the human person and most
especially to the children and women who are trafficked. So
in these bishops, you're talking about people who have devoted
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their whole lives to helping the poor taking a vow
of poverty. And I understand Jdvans has a policy difference
with the Conference of Catholic Bishops.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
On certain issues.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Fine, debate the policy, but don't defame them and slander
them and falsely accuse them of being motivated by the money.
So let me get this straight. Jadvance, you really believe
in your heart of hearts because I don't think you do.
I think you know it's false and goofy, you believe
in your heart of hearts? These bishops would sell out
the children who are being trafficked so the bishops can
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get a hundred million dollars to spend on what to
spend on feeding people, to spend on clothing people and
housing people. Subscene and really surprising from a guy who
is so great in so many ways is Jdvance. So
let's hope he never does anything like that. Again, We're
all human, we all make mistakes, but that is particularly insidious.
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David in Kansas, you're on the Dan Kaplas Show.
Speaker 7 (24:09):
Welcome, right, Dan. I like listening to you. I have
to take issue with this one point that you make, Yes, sir,
because we have access to the internet now we have
accurate information that we didn't have before. And I just
looked this up and it says Catholic Charities USA. In
twenty nineteen was discovered that the charity has misused millions
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of dollars and federal grants intended to aid refugees, and
it said Catholic Charities of New York. In twenty twelve,
the organization faced criticism for using donations meant for Hurricane
Sandy relief efforts to pay off debts incurage prior to
the storm. I mean, there's a list of examples here.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
On the internet. Well, let's go.
Speaker 7 (24:53):
There is an abuse of money in the.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Cantic David gets specifically.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
No, No, wait a second, David, it's it's not going
to work this way. You can come on the show
and you can prove me wrong every day of the week.
Prove me wrong. The floor is yours. Give us the facts.
Who wrote the article, where was it published, what are
the details. My premise has never been that nobody in
the Catholic Church at any level ever abused any money anytime.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
That's not my premise. But go ahead, David, break it
down for us.
Speaker 7 (25:22):
Well, what I'm trying to say is this. I think
what he was just basically saying is that we've got
a policy now to get people across the border again,
to bring sanity back to our nation, and if they
want to take care of the situation, let them take
care of it. But to put this burden back onto
the American people again when we voted they have this
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to be changed. That's unacceptable, like when the Pope said, well,
that's not being humanitarian when you keep putting these people
out across the board. The came here illegally. David then
say that how am I being in Jumaane.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Then just if you're JD. Vance, who is a brilliant,
articulate guy, just say it. That's what he should have
said to Margaret Brennan because listen, I think the Trump
executive orders. I think these policies are sound and just
and humane, and they help human life at every level,
innocent human life. So just have the policy debate. Say
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what David did, But why do you think Vance went
to this defamatory, slanderous, false claim that the bishops had
decided to abandon the humanitarian cause for money because he wants,
he wants to punish, he wants to intimidate, he wants
to send the message do not oppose us on policy
or will come after you personally. No, JD. Vance, that's
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what the left does. I admire your strength. I admire
President Trump's strength. A peace through strength. The world is
better off through that strength. But strength does not include
lying about people. And you just lied about the bishops
and you know it's not true true. Just debate them
on policy. Vast majority of Americans, including me, would agree
with you on these policies.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Just debate them on the policy.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Why do you have to tell this lie about them
personally feeding into all of these worst, untrue stereotypes of
anti Catholic bigots out there?
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Why you jd Vance?
Speaker 1 (27:19):
You're vice president of the United States in significant part
because of the Catholic vote, and why do you use
your platform now to falsely feed this anti Catholic bigotry.
It's wrong on every level. You're on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
And now back to the Dan Kapla Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
It's truly inspired wrying. What caused you to play that?
Speaker 8 (27:42):
Well?
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Kelly threatened my life if I played We Are the World,
So I wanted to play a song like that, and
she said this was better.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
That is okay. I did not your life.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
The look was threatening.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Okay, let me get to the tex Switch take a
decidedly different tone than that beautiful one for music, Dad,
Catholicism is not too popular these days.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Read the room.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Yeah, I am reading the room like I'm reading the
parking lot. It's hard to even go to church anymore
because the parking lot is so crowded, and then the
church is so crowded. So I don't know where you're
hanging out, my friend. But I think a Catholicism, I
think is very popular right now.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
But b it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
It doesn't matter whether Catholicism is popular or not. That
is entirely irrelevant. All that matters is that Catholicism is right.
That's all that matters, is that it's right. The whole
idea of Catholicism is we're the mailman. You can't change
what's in the mail. You just got to deliver it.
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And as John Paul the Great said, hey, we may
have to go back. We may have to go back
to being just twelve on the face of the earth again.
It may all have to start over there. So it's
not about being popular, it's about being right. But at
the same time it is it is plenty popular in
lots of places. Oh and by the way, the Catholic
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vote was key in this election. Doesn't mean everybody else
didn't matter. They did, every single voter matter. But you
look at the Catholic vote. Biden won it by five,
won a narrow victory. Trump won it by fifteen and
Catholics voted for Trump for a very good reason, and
he is delivering for Catholics and all of Americans in very,
very big ways. The only reason we're talking about this
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is this stunning, cheap shot, this blatant lie JD. Vance
told when he said the Catholic bishops who criticize some
Trump eos are motivated by money instead of caring about people. Vicious, vicious,
slanderous lie, provably false. So I don't know why he
went there, because I admire a lot he's done. Texters
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summing up pretty much every other text, Dan, I agree
with JD.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Texter.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Dan, I'm not defending the priest, but in thinking, you
need to step down off your soapboxes step or two.
The history of Catholic priest isn't that clean? Wait a second,
what difference does that make That you have a group
of people, priests, including bishops, who have undeniably changed the
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world in enormously positive ways, and so they were infiltrated
by some evil people who did some evil things. That
doesn't change the reality of all the good priests as
a whole. If done, Dan, you're too biased, You're conflating
the locals with the politicized upper echelon. I wish you'd
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be more specific exactly how right, because look at that,
there's no question that are Colorado bishops who issued that
tremendous statement on immigration, pointing out how the open borders
has led to so much violence and trafficking, etc. Yeah,
those are color bishops. And you have some bishops naturally
who are more liberal. But the point is this, I
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support the actions President Trump has taken.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
JD.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Vance could have easily rebutted the bishops on policy, but
he chose not to do that. He chose to attack them,
to lie about them, to attack them viciously personally. Why
did he choose to do that? That's what I'm so
critical of. I'm critical of lying about anybody, but lying
about priests and bishops who take a vow of poverty
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and claim they're selling out traffic children to line their
own pockets. It's one of the most insidious, imaginable slanders
Dan two thousand. This gets too long. Presidential Kenny Joe
Biden says he would not allow sanctuary cities, et cetera,
et cetera, and then it goes on from there. Listen,
I've been very direct and open and calling Biden out
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on his.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
His it's always prefacers, Oh, I'm a devout Catholic.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
And then he goes on to talk about how he's
going to do everything in his power to defeat the
core teaching of the Catholic Church on life right, just
like JD. Hero I admire in so many ways. I'd
vote him for president next time. He starts this slander
of Catholic bishops by saying, you know, as a practicing
Catholic myself, I'm heartbroken.
Speaker 8 (32:20):
You know.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
It sure seems to me that choosing to slander and
lie about your priests for political gain is a very
short term play.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Don't you think.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Listen, I've got my own concerns about what I'm going
to say to Saint Peter up there, But yeah, I
just don't get this defaming your bishops. You know, if
you've got a criticism of your bishops and you feel
you need to make it out of conscience, then do
it to lie about them. No, that's different, Dan. The
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truth is your church is done. Really, that's what done
looks like. Have you been to a Catholic church? You
go to a Catholic church on Sunday. Yeah, the Catholic
church that I intended to go to Sunday. And my
schedule can shift depending on where I'm at on different Sundays.
And we're parishioners of a wonderful parish all souls. But
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Sunday I wanted to go to a particular church because
I was going to be traveling that direction. I couldn't
go because the parking lot was going to be overflowing.
There wouldn't be enough seats in the church. The church
probably holds more than some arenas. Oh this now somebody
actually wanted to get into Taylor Swift. Yeah, I don't
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think that fits today. All right, let's go to the
phone lines. Brendon in Denver. You're on the Dan Capitalist Show.
Speaker 8 (33:45):
Welcome, Hey, Dan, You're great as always. Man. I think, yeah,
let's set your screener because I said this, I said,
God's Earth has no borders.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Does your house of a door?
Speaker 8 (33:59):
Absolutely it does. And I gotta protect my family. And
so I think she might have misunderstood where I was
coming from. I think jd vance be financial versus the border,
you know, or immigrants or the poor or what have you,
is something that the Republican party is going to have
to do with and jd Vance is aware of that.
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He's aware of that slight tension that's in there under
the tin, the red tin.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Hey Brendon, can you do me a favor? I love
talking to you.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Can you call us tomorrow and start the show so
we can have a real conversation, give you the time
that this deserves. Thank you, because I don't think there
is a big tension there at all. I think the
only tension was just created by jd Vance, who admired
in so many other ways lying about the bishops.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Ryan. Great job, Kelly, thank you. Join us tomorrow on
The Dan Kapla Show.
This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast
edition of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to
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single day on your favorite podcast platform. President Trump off
to a rocket fuel start and winning on every single
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front right now.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
So it's a beautiful thing to behold.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
I really think we're at kind of a tipping point
moment for this nation, and so much reason to believe,
as do tipping points when they happen, that we're going
to see this snowball effect and we're going to see
this exponential improvement. As people get a taste of this success,
you know, such as the rate last night in Adams
County took forty to fifty TDA members allegedly here illegally,
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that's a beautiful thing to behold. And Americans get a
taste of that, they're going to want more and more,
right because we've gotten so used under leftist rule to
things just getting worse all the time, getting more and
more dangerous. And when you start to realize, wait a
second note, is possible for things to actually get safer
in each and every one of those TDA members hopefully
deported after last night. This state gets safer in a
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tangible way. So beautiful thing to see. And we all
know that that winning but gets winning right, because it
increases political capital, increases confidence, increases momentum, it increases everything,
including young people coming up into politics who then decide
they want to be conservative, etc. So now this is
(01:32):
a breakthrough moment which goes back to and a lot
of people mock and I'm not saying listeners to this show,
but it was back to what I said at the time.
I do believe that God saved Donald Trump in that field.
And you can see all of the benefits of America's
reaping from that very moment, right. Can you imagine how
America would have been just torn asunder if that assassin
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had succeeded in that field that day. But now all
of the other benefits to come in. For those on
the pro life side who were worried that Donald Trump
would not be pro life in his second term, what
more could you ask from anybody than his first week
when he has done so much, very very tangible stuff
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to help advance the cause of life. And I have
no doubt that as he gets more judicial appointments, you'll see.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
That as well. So anyway, lots to kick around today.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
We've also been talking about just the all you can
do is laugh type deception from Jared Poulis now as
he sees the success Trump's having and that it's turning
into a seventy thirty eighty twenty issue in America and
Trump's on the right side and Polis is on the
wrong side. Polis now trying to recast himself as this
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great crusader against illegal immigration, when the simple fact is
he signed the bills that made Colorado a sanctuary state
and made it a lot harder for a law enforcement
to cooperate with ice to get criminal illegals deported. The
bills are there his signatures on. I mean, he's not
claiming anybody forged it. He's just lying about what they do.
(03:05):
So we've been enjoying that together today as well, So
lots to do. Jd Vance just dismantled Margaret Brennan in
an interview on Face the Nation over the weekend, and
it was a beautiful thing to behold, with one exception
that I talked about earlier, but a beautiful thing to
behold because again, it's so important now that what President
Trump is achieving become long lasting, and that means not
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just having Republican elected to another four years in twenty eight.
It means having the right kind of Republican who's going
to approach it from a policy standpoint much the same
way Trump does.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
And JD. Vance gives every indication of being that guy.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
So we've been enjoying some of that sound together as well,
So we've got that to do. I do want to
get to some other local stories, though, and we'll get
back to this JD. Vance thing, because he was so
right about virtually everything. Excuse me not getting emotional. It's
a peanut butter, though. I almost got emotional during that
game yesterday. I so so wanted to see Josh Allen
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win that game in the Bills. And Ryan just brief
digression into sports the great irony, and there's kind of
a life lesson in this is that the single greatest
play of Josh Allen's career was the play the game
ended on the play where Buffalo lost.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
But it's just.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
An important life lesson, right And for those who are
watching the game who don't care about football, I guess
Josh Allen. It's fourth down. He has to get ten
yards to continue the game. The opponent, Kansas City, mounts
this beautiful, creative blitz, so Josh Allen has no time
to find his receivers and throw the ball down field,
and miraculously, through sheer athleticism, a quick mind, et cetera,
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he manages to to shake free enough to throw a
ball about thirty thirty five yards to.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
A receiver who was right there. The ball was in
his hands. Dalton concaid.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
If that ball is caught, yeah, it's the single greatest
play by a quarterback in the history of the NFL.
I'd have been And you know, they at the very
least they tie the game, they're probably going to win
the game through no fault of Josh Allen's. It's once again,
Josh Allen didn't make it to a Super Bowl. So
it's just it's a life lesson, right, the greatest play
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of his career ends in failure because somebody else didn't
do their part.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
I'm just dazzled really by Buffalo Bills and this luck
that seems to have Befallen Josh Allen, but not just that.
And then from the aspect the viewpoint of the Broncos
fan who hates the Chiefs, and I agree an a
Lions fan where every call that could be absolutely bonkers
going against the Lions has ever happened, namely the last
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time there was a borderline call or even egregious call,
any category of call that's gone against the Chiefs in
that game, every single one of them what Kansas City's
roll And it's not the first time, and.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
We all know why, we all know why, and the
initials are ts.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
I'm serious. The NFL is all about money. Listen and listen.
We got to get back to other stuff. But this
drives me.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Crazy, right because our son played football, not at pro level,
but he played football and was great. But if the
NFL cared about safety at all at all, face mask
would be reviewable, right, I mean, they don't care about
safety and they care about money. They care about ratings.
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Taylor Swift is good for ratings. How many more eyeballs
do you have on these games because somebody watching who
doesn't know a pig skin from a baseball wants to
see Taylor Swift a picture of Taylor Swift up in
the box. No, but listen, I have never hated Kansas City.
I cannot hate Kansas City because we have so many
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wonderful relatives in Kansas. You know, I root for the Broncos,
but I don't sit there and root against Kansas City.
I just wanted to see Josh Allen advance, So just
that life lesson part there. Anyway, another story I want
to get to here, and then we're going to tee
up some of this jd Vance that may spill over
to the next segment. But I'm getting the predictably passionate
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in disagreement texts that I want to get to on this.
I had predicted I think, at least off air, that
one hundred percent of listener feedback today would be opposed
to me on my one criticism of JD Vance. All
I've done is praise the guy for all the great
things he's done, including today one criticism, and then all
of a sudden, I'm all these things Texters are saying.
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But we will get to that. We'll have that sound
for the next segment. But what do you think of
this one? This story just popping up in the Denver Post.
John Aguilar real good reporter Representative Brittany Peterson, a new
mother again calls for remote v voting in Congress by
parents of newborns.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
So what do you think about that?
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Should she be permitted to vote remotely so from her
home in Colorado or somewhere else, but not in Congress
because of her newborn? Would love your take on that.
Eight F five for zero five A two five five
text d an five seven seven three nine. So she says, quote,
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Congress makes no accommodations for new parents. So while I'm
recovering and taking care of my newborn at this critical time,
it's incredibly unfair that my constituents will not have a
voice in Congress until I am physically able to return
to Washington. No member should have to choose between caring
for their newborn and representing their constituents. The bill that
she's proposing would also provide for the husband if if
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his wife gave birth and the husband happened to be
the congressman, to skip out on the vote or to
vote remotely.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
So what do you think of that?
Speaker 1 (09:00):
And listen, conceptually, there's just there's nothing more important in
America than mothers and mothers having babies, And conceptually, I'm
all in favor of accommodating that. The problem is, I
don't see anyway. Maybe I'm missing something you could tell me.
I don't see any way to accommodate that without allowing
remote voting for everybody, because once you allow that, how
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do you not allow a thousand other compelling justifications. I
just I don't see how you can make any exceptions
like that without all of a sudden becoming a Congress
where people don't even go to Washington and can just
vote from all over the country. And maybe you think
that'd be good for America. Maybe you can make a
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good case for that, but I think right now that
would be bad for the country.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
So love your thoughts on that.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Also, when we come back, fascinating you know, the spree
killer on the mall, the spree killer on the mall,
who slit that flight attendant's throat stabbed to death, that
thirty four year old man tried to kill two others,
that's free killer on them all. That the Post just
did a major profile on him, and you won't believe
what they left out of the profile.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
You're on the Dan Capla Show.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Yeah, it's expected some fiery responses my one criticism of JD.
Vans I praise everything else he does. Why because he
deserves that praise. I'm an honest man. Somebody deserves praise,
I praise him, but I give you the why. Somebody
deserves criticism, I criticize them and I give you the why.
And that's the case with JD.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Vance.
Speaker 1 (10:37):
So I want to play this sound right now, quick setup.
If you just joined the show, thank you. Been playing
a lot of sound of JD. Vance doing marvelously well
once again against Margaret Brunnan. Unfaced the nation this weekend,
and my point being that he is probably going to
be Trump's successor, and that's going to be really good
for America. But he said something in the course of
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responding to the Conference of Catholic Bishops who were critical
of some of President Trump's executive orders on immigration. He
then attacked the bishops as being motivated by money, which
is patently ludicrous. And he must knows that doesn't mean
the bishops are right on everything.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
They're only human.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
I think the bishops right a lot more than the
rest of us are right, but they're still only human.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
But to say they're money.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Motivated, no, he's got to know that it's untrue, and
it's a below the belt shot, and it's really beneath
his dignity, Vance's dignity and the dignity of the office.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
The US Conference of Catholic Bishops this week condemned some
of the executive orders signed by President Trump, specifically those
allowing immigration and customs enforcement to enter churches and to
enter schools.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Do you personally.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
Support the idea of conducting a raid or enforcement action
in a church service at a school.
Speaker 6 (11:56):
Well, let me let me address this. Of course, if
you have a person who is convicted of a violent crime,
whether they're an illegal immigrant or a non illegal immigrant,
you have to go and get that person to protect
the public safety. That's not unique to immigration. But let
me just address the Well, pause it there.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
For a second, Ry, because I agree with that JD.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Vance just said, and I've said it before that it's
like any other law enforcement scenario. And if you've got
a known criminal they're pursuing again people here illegally who
have committed other crimes, you've got to be able to
pursue them anywhere in the interest of public safety, including
the safety of people in those facilities.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Thank you, Ryan, Please.
Speaker 6 (12:32):
For it, because as a practicing Catholic, I was actually
heartbroken by that statement. And I think that the US
Conference of Catholic Bishops needs to actually look in the
mirror a little bit and recognize that when they receive
over one hundred million dollars to help resettle illegal immigrants,
are they worried about humanitarian concerns or are they actually
worried about their bottom line?
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Would you start that?
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Because I got to tell you, I've been on air
thirty years and that's one of the most dishonest, insidious
things I've ever heard of person say. And what makes
it worse is I admire Jdvans. I would vote for
him for president, but he knows that's dishonest to say
that these bishops now are motivated by money instead of
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humanitarian concerns. Really, Jdvans, Really, what's in your bank account?
What's in my bank account? You got a beautiful wife.
I got a beautiful wife. You got beautiful kids. I
got beautiful kids. These people who are bishops, these people
who are priests, they give up money, they give up wealth,
they give up sex, they give up all that great
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stuff to go out and save souls and serve the poor,
and you're gonna sit there on national TV ripping them,
saying they're money grubbers. That's crap. That's beneath you. It's
beneath the office. And I don't care how much I
admire you on other fronts.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
That is crap. And that's what the Left does.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
You must be afraid you can't win the policy argument,
which I don't get because you've got great policy arguments
to make. But to go after them personally like that,
I think that's an intimidation attempt. I think that is
a premeditated, deliberate intimidation attempt to try to get the
bishops to back down, to try to get the church
to back down when the church disagrees, which is really
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remarkable since the Catholic vote probably delivered you to the
White House. And I think you've said that JD Vance
and then to pull a Biden, which is to preface
an unfair attack on Catholics by saying, oh, it's a
devout Catholic. It's heartbreaking for me. No, what you just did?
You know that was cheap? You know what was wrong?
You know it's patently false. Give me any evidence to
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suggest that these bishops who have given up all that
stuff to devote their lives to serving the poor, etc.
Are now going to sacrifice humanitarian concerns for money.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Will give me.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
One bit of evidence supporting that Jdvans and one bit
of evidence suggesting that somehow any of this money and
a hundre millions a lot, right, But you spread one
hundred million out across this entire country, and you spread
it out across all of the poor people who are
being served by Catholic charities in a much more efficient
way than the government could ever do it themselves. I
guarantee you the Catholic Charities is serving saving the government
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billions by doing the work that they do with whatever
governmental support they get, because they do it better than anybody,
and certainly infinitely better than the government. So really, one
shred of evidence that they're doing it for money, one
shred of evidence that one dollar of that money has
ever made the life of a single Catholic priest or
Catholic bishop more comfortable. No, what happens with that money
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is it goes to feed, it goes to clothe, and
the Catholic Charities make that money go a lot further
so that it really, man, it's so strange for a
guy I admire so much and to praise so much
to do something that low and that wrong. You want
to accuse somebody of being money grubbers, you might want
to start with people who haven't taken this vow of
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charity and lived very modest lives compared to you and
me and most other people. Yeah, it's intimidation. It's an
intimidation tactic, and it is wrong. Let me read you,
by the way Colorado Bishops, the Colorado Bishops of Colorado,
including Archbishop Aquilla and the other bishops of Colorado, let
me read you their statement on illegal immigration. This includes
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Bishop Samuel Aquilla, he's Archbishop of Denver, and Bishop Stephen
Bergh Diocese of Pueblo, and Bishop James Golka Diocese of
Colorado Springs and Bishop Porte Rodriguez, Auxiliary Bishop in Denver. Here,
in part is what they say about immigration and immigration
policy in response to the President's orders. People have the
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right to migrate to sustain their lives. A country has
the right to regulate its borders and to control immigration.
A country must regulate its borders with justice and mercy.
You can find this in the Denver, but listen to
this verbatim. The Catholic Church teaches that while individuals and
their families have the right to migrate, no country has
the duty to receive so many immigrants that its social
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and economic life is jeopardized. The current state of the
American immigration system is decidedly broken. The process to achieve
temporary or permanent legal immigration status in the US takes
years and is expensive. The Center for Immigration Studies shows
the estimated number of migrants in the US is between
eleven million more than twenty two million, And then it
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goes on to document other numbers, and this is what
the bishops in Colorado just wrote. Since twenty twenty, the
US immigration system has grown more unlawful. The open border
immigration policy restricted immigration and custom enforcement ice ability to investigate,
arrest or deport spies, terrorists, and felons. This has resulted
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in loss of life and situations of unrest and violence,
including an Aurora, Colorado, where six recent migrant members of
the Venezuelan gang TDA were taken into custody. Then it
goes on to document, and I'll get into another segments,
more and more violence caused by legal immigration. So the
bishops have that right. This is an unfair attack by
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jd Vance.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
What was that, Ryan? I was waiting for music.
Speaker 4 (18:29):
That's personal Jesus by Depeche Mode.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Oh sorry, I couldn't make out the work, so it
certainly fits the conversation.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
This af turn.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Once I explained it right, we'll get back to the phone,
lenses said, and I will get to the text.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Here's the gist. If you just joined us, thank you.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
So I opened the show once again saying let the
celebration continue, documented that the tremendous triumphs Trump is heaven
and how it's so great for our nation. Praise jd
Vance for once again a great interview taking down the
national press. I criticize one thing, one thing, and all
of a sudden on public enemy number one.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
So to some of those tacks.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
But listen, hey, thirty years whatever it's been on air,
I don't know the number. I have made my bones
by being a straight shooter. I tell the truth, no
matter where the chips fall, and the truth is. When
Jade Vance came out and we played the tape and
he accused the Catholic bishops of America of turning their
back on humanitarian needs here, turning their back on all
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of the children being lost through ilegal immigration because they
wanted the money. Actually said, they want the one hundred
million dollars that get is more important to them.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
He knows that's false.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
It's one of the most obscene, insidious things ever said
by a public figure. And it's ludicrous on his face
right to suggest that that all of these bishops and
priests and everybody else who have taken this vow of
poverty and they live in listen. I was in a
Catholic seminary in high school, and my uncle's a priest.
I'm around a bunch of priests. I'm on the board
of Catholic Cherities Denver. I'm around priests.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
All the time. They're my heroes.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
And it to me, the fact that you had some
of the worst actors in human history, who so betrayed,
who so betrayed the priesthood by praying on miners, that
doesn't change my overall view of priests at all, not
one little bit, even though that is some of the
worst kind of evil imaginable, Because I know through my lifetime,
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I know the heroes priests are, and these bad apples,
these criminal actors, they don't change the truth about the
rest of the priests or the bishops. So for jd
Vance to sit there and claim that these bishops, who
he disagrees with on policy, don't care about the people,
they don't care about the children, they're just motivated by money.
(20:42):
He knows that isn't true, and their whole lives prove that.
Their whole lives prove that. How ironic for Jady Vance
to say it. I mean, I admire the guy. I'll
vote Froim for president, but he makes a lot of money.
I make a lot of money. He has a beautiful wife.
I have a beautiful wife. We have all these luxuries,
we do all these great things. We're not taking vows
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of poverty. We're not devoting each and every minute of
our lives to serving the poor the way the bishops
and priests are. And he's going to sit there and
claim they're money grubbers who don't care about these children,
and that he's holier than them. Give me a frigging break. So, yeah,
he does a lot of good and I'd vote for him,
but this is garbage, and he knows it. That's the
(21:23):
worst part. He knows it's garbage. And then let me
read before we get back to the phone lines and text.
I want to read to you some more from the
statement from the Colorado Catholic Bishops, and I read a
bit of it earlier, but I want to read some
more now because you're not going to read it in
the press anywhere. So while they write that, hey, you know,
people have a right to migrate to sustain their lives,
they also say a country has a right to regulate
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its borders and control immigration. But the Catholic Bishops of
Colorado say this specifically. Since twenty twenty, the US immigration
system has grown more unlawful. The quote open border immigration
policy restricted ice ability to investigate arrest to ports, spies, terrorists,
and felons. This has resulted in the loss of life
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and situations of unrest and violence, including an Aurora, Colorado,
where sixteen recent migrant members of the Venezueland Gang TDA
were taken into custody in December following an armed home
invasion and kidnapping. Additionally, right the Catholic Bishops in Colorado,
more families have been divided and children have been harmed
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Since twenty twenty right the bishops, the DHS has encountered
five hundred and fifteen thousand unaccompanied miners at the border.
Seventy five percent of them were reportedly sexually abused by
their smugglers. Drugs smuggling and human trafficking are on the
rise because of the open border policy. This is written
by the Catholic Bishops right here in Colorado. From October
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twenty two to April twenty three, Customs and Border Protections
sees more than seventeen thousand pounds of fentanyl at the
southern border and open border rights the bishops and open
border is not a just system, and it does create
damage to the dignity of the human person and most
especially to the children and women who are trafficked. So
in these bishops, you're talking about people who have devoted
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their whole lives to helping the poor taking a vow
of poverty. And I understand Jdvans has a policy difference
with the Conference of Catholic Bishops.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
On certain issues.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Fine, debate the policy, but don't defame them and slander
them and falsely accuse them of being motivated by the money.
So let me get this straight. Jadvance, you really believe
in your heart of hearts because I don't think you do.
I think you know it's false and goofy, you believe
in your heart of hearts? These bishops would sell out
the children who are being trafficked so the bishops can
(23:41):
get a hundred million dollars to spend on what to
spend on feeding people, to spend on clothing people and
housing people. Subscene and really surprising from a guy who
is so great in so many ways is Jdvance. So
let's hope he never does anything like that. Again, We're
all human, we all make mistakes, but that is particularly insidious.
(24:06):
David in Kansas, you're on the Dan Kaplas Show.
Speaker 7 (24:09):
Welcome, right, Dan. I like listening to you. I have
to take issue with this one point that you make, Yes, sir,
because we have access to the internet now we have
accurate information that we didn't have before. And I just
looked this up and it says Catholic Charities USA. In
twenty nineteen was discovered that the charity has misused millions
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of dollars and federal grants intended to aid refugees, and
it said Catholic Charities of New York. In twenty twelve,
the organization faced criticism for using donations meant for Hurricane
Sandy relief efforts to pay off debts incurage prior to
the storm. I mean, there's a list of examples here.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
On the internet. Well, let's go.
Speaker 7 (24:53):
There is an abuse of money in the.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Cantic David gets specifically.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
No, No, wait a second, David, it's it's not going
to work this way. You can come on the show
and you can prove me wrong every day of the week.
Prove me wrong. The floor is yours. Give us the facts.
Who wrote the article, where was it published, what are
the details. My premise has never been that nobody in
the Catholic Church at any level ever abused any money anytime.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
That's not my premise. But go ahead, David, break it
down for us.
Speaker 7 (25:22):
Well, what I'm trying to say is this. I think
what he was just basically saying is that we've got
a policy now to get people across the border again,
to bring sanity back to our nation, and if they
want to take care of the situation, let them take
care of it. But to put this burden back onto
the American people again when we voted they have this
(25:45):
to be changed. That's unacceptable, like when the Pope said, well,
that's not being humanitarian when you keep putting these people
out across the board. The came here illegally. David then
say that how am I being in Jumaane.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Then just if you're JD. Vance, who is a brilliant,
articulate guy, just say it. That's what he should have
said to Margaret Brennan because listen, I think the Trump
executive orders. I think these policies are sound and just
and humane, and they help human life at every level,
innocent human life. So just have the policy debate. Say
(26:23):
what David did, But why do you think Vance went
to this defamatory, slanderous, false claim that the bishops had
decided to abandon the humanitarian cause for money because he wants,
he wants to punish, he wants to intimidate, he wants
to send the message do not oppose us on policy
or will come after you personally. No, JD. Vance, that's
(26:46):
what the left does. I admire your strength. I admire
President Trump's strength. A peace through strength. The world is
better off through that strength. But strength does not include
lying about people. And you just lied about the bishops
and you know it's not true true. Just debate them
on policy. Vast majority of Americans, including me, would agree
with you on these policies.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Just debate them on the policy.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Why do you have to tell this lie about them
personally feeding into all of these worst, untrue stereotypes of
anti Catholic bigots out there?
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Why you jd Vance?
Speaker 1 (27:19):
You're vice president of the United States in significant part
because of the Catholic vote, and why do you use
your platform now to falsely feed this anti Catholic bigotry.
It's wrong on every level. You're on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
And now back to the Dan Kapla Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
It's truly inspired wrying. What caused you to play that?
Speaker 8 (27:42):
Well?
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Kelly threatened my life if I played We Are the World,
So I wanted to play a song like that, and
she said this was better.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
That is okay. I did not your life.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
The look was threatening.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Okay, let me get to the tex Switch take a
decidedly different tone than that beautiful one for music, Dad,
Catholicism is not too popular these days.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Read the room.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Yeah, I am reading the room like I'm reading the
parking lot. It's hard to even go to church anymore
because the parking lot is so crowded, and then the
church is so crowded. So I don't know where you're
hanging out, my friend. But I think a Catholicism, I
think is very popular right now.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
But b it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
It doesn't matter whether Catholicism is popular or not. That
is entirely irrelevant. All that matters is that Catholicism is right.
That's all that matters, is that it's right. The whole
idea of Catholicism is we're the mailman. You can't change
what's in the mail. You just got to deliver it.
(28:52):
And as John Paul the Great said, hey, we may
have to go back. We may have to go back
to being just twelve on the face of the earth again.
It may all have to start over there. So it's
not about being popular, it's about being right. But at
the same time it is it is plenty popular in
lots of places. Oh and by the way, the Catholic
(29:13):
vote was key in this election. Doesn't mean everybody else
didn't matter. They did, every single voter matter. But you
look at the Catholic vote. Biden won it by five,
won a narrow victory. Trump won it by fifteen and
Catholics voted for Trump for a very good reason, and
he is delivering for Catholics and all of Americans in very,
very big ways. The only reason we're talking about this
(29:34):
is this stunning, cheap shot, this blatant lie JD. Vance
told when he said the Catholic bishops who criticize some
Trump eos are motivated by money instead of caring about people. Vicious, vicious,
slanderous lie, provably false. So I don't know why he
went there, because I admire a lot he's done. Texters
(29:56):
summing up pretty much every other text, Dan, I agree
with JD.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Texter.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Dan, I'm not defending the priest, but in thinking, you
need to step down off your soapboxes step or two.
The history of Catholic priest isn't that clean? Wait a second,
what difference does that make That you have a group
of people, priests, including bishops, who have undeniably changed the
(30:22):
world in enormously positive ways, and so they were infiltrated
by some evil people who did some evil things. That
doesn't change the reality of all the good priests as
a whole. If done, Dan, you're too biased, You're conflating
the locals with the politicized upper echelon. I wish you'd
(30:42):
be more specific exactly how right, because look at that,
there's no question that are Colorado bishops who issued that
tremendous statement on immigration, pointing out how the open borders
has led to so much violence and trafficking, etc. Yeah,
those are color bishops. And you have some bishops naturally
who are more liberal. But the point is this, I
(31:07):
support the actions President Trump has taken.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
JD.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Vance could have easily rebutted the bishops on policy, but
he chose not to do that. He chose to attack them,
to lie about them, to attack them viciously personally. Why
did he choose to do that? That's what I'm so
critical of. I'm critical of lying about anybody, but lying
about priests and bishops who take a vow of poverty
(31:33):
and claim they're selling out traffic children to line their
own pockets. It's one of the most insidious, imaginable slanders
Dan two thousand. This gets too long. Presidential Kenny Joe
Biden says he would not allow sanctuary cities, et cetera,
et cetera, and then it goes on from there. Listen,
I've been very direct and open and calling Biden out
(31:56):
on his.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
His it's always prefacers, Oh, I'm a devout Catholic.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
And then he goes on to talk about how he's
going to do everything in his power to defeat the
core teaching of the Catholic Church on life right, just
like JD. Hero I admire in so many ways. I'd
vote him for president next time. He starts this slander
of Catholic bishops by saying, you know, as a practicing
Catholic myself, I'm heartbroken.
Speaker 8 (32:20):
You know.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
It sure seems to me that choosing to slander and
lie about your priests for political gain is a very
short term play.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Don't you think.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Listen, I've got my own concerns about what I'm going
to say to Saint Peter up there, But yeah, I
just don't get this defaming your bishops. You know, if
you've got a criticism of your bishops and you feel
you need to make it out of conscience, then do
it to lie about them. No, that's different, Dan. The
(32:57):
truth is your church is done. Really, that's what done
looks like. Have you been to a Catholic church? You
go to a Catholic church on Sunday. Yeah, the Catholic
church that I intended to go to Sunday. And my
schedule can shift depending on where I'm at on different Sundays.
And we're parishioners of a wonderful parish all souls. But
(33:19):
Sunday I wanted to go to a particular church because
I was going to be traveling that direction. I couldn't
go because the parking lot was going to be overflowing.
There wouldn't be enough seats in the church. The church
probably holds more than some arenas. Oh this now somebody
actually wanted to get into Taylor Swift. Yeah, I don't
(33:39):
think that fits today. All right, let's go to the
phone lines. Brendon in Denver. You're on the Dan Capitalist Show.
Speaker 8 (33:45):
Welcome, Hey, Dan, You're great as always. Man. I think, yeah,
let's set your screener because I said this, I said,
God's Earth has no borders.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Does your house of a door?
Speaker 8 (33:59):
Absolutely it does. And I gotta protect my family. And
so I think she might have misunderstood where I was
coming from. I think jd vance be financial versus the border,
you know, or immigrants or the poor or what have you,
is something that the Republican party is going to have
to do with and jd Vance is aware of that.
(34:20):
He's aware of that slight tension that's in there under
the tin, the red tin.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Hey Brendon, can you do me a favor? I love
talking to you.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Can you call us tomorrow and start the show so
we can have a real conversation, give you the time
that this deserves. Thank you, because I don't think there
is a big tension there at all. I think the
only tension was just created by jd Vance, who admired
in so many other ways lying about the bishops.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Ryan. Great job, Kelly, thank you. Join us tomorrow on
The Dan Kapla Show.
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