June 5, 2025 • 35 mins
In today's edition of the show, Dan Caplis returns from court to react to today's shocking civil war between Donald Trump and Elon Musk.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Dan Kaplis and welcome to today's online podcast
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day to do that. So it's going to be a
little wet up and down the front range. Glad you're here.
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Thank you Sheriff Steve and John Caldera for covering while
I was in this week's trial. Really do appreciate that.
And Ryan and Kelly obviously always the critical infrastructure, as
we like to say around here, but so much to
talk about. I've been dying to dive into this with
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you in my business. You know, when we go to trial,
obviously it's a bubble. Everything else gets frozen out twenty
four to seven. You're focused on that case. So I've
been playing catch up today and it is amazing what
has been going on out there, and you would think
it's going to cause a lot more Republicans to get elected.
But we'll have that conversation as well, we want to
lead with, of course, this public and I'll put battle
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in quotes just in case it's kind of staged between
President Trump and Elon Musk. And one of the questions
for you will be do you think it's staged at
this point? And if so, to what end one way
or the other? How do you think it does end?
I mean, we all know it's going to end with
a kumbaya, but how does that end? How does that happen?
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indulge me one quick personal moment. I just I love
Adam's County Courthouse. I love Adams County Court and just
so grateful to our jury out there and to all JERRYS.
Ryan picture this. Okay, seven thirty Monday morning. Okay, Monday
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mornings are tough as they are, right seven thirty Monday morning.
And I always I make it a point in trial
to be the first guy in the door of the courthouse,
so I get there early, to be there when the
door's open at seven thirty. How long do you think
the line was at seven of jurors because they it
turned out, they had our trial, which was an important trial,
and then they had a murder trial. That line went
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on forever. I mean, I'll show you a picture. But
so I'm walking up to the front door, and as
an attorney, you know you can go in a side door.
You can completely bypass the line, and that line all
these good people they're leaving their families, their jobs, everything
else to go serve as jurors. So I looked at
that door, I looked at that line, and of course
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I walked it seemed like two blocks down to the
end of the line, and dutifully took my place at
the end of the line, as I should have. That
door should not be there for attorney, in my humble opinion,
maybe for the das who work in the building, but
the rest of us should have to go to the
end of the line. And of course that is what
I did. But very grateful for the outcome, hard fought case.
And it was funny I walked in today and we
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have this wonderful front desk coordinator and she said, I've
never seen you, Matt before, because she came for closing argument.
But it was a closing argument that required that honest,
righteous anger, and fortunately the jury you know, got the
case right, as they almost always do. So grateful for that.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Now, what's your stance on cameras in the courtroom, Dan, Oh,
I think they should be there. Yeah, I think they Yeah,
I think they should be there all the time.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
They judge Edo's what's the plight where judge Edo something
the pooch on that one, because otherwise we'd have him
standard but he abused it and it's just say it
a bad name.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Are there a propensity? Is there a propensity?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Would there be a likelihood that judges and attorneys would
be playing to the cameras more?
Speaker 1 (03:41):
You know what I mean? No, that that's where itdo
distorted it. Yeah, because there'd been plenty in the court
cameras in the courtroom before I'd covered those trials, I'd
been in those trials, I'd tried a case with cameras
in the courtroom, and it just especially in this day
and age ran where you know, most of so many
people now into their twenty and thirties, camera's not a
big deal. Grown up with the cell phone cameras, they've
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grown up with cameras everywhere, you know. For people older
than that, then oh wow, there's a camera there everybody says, hey,
you see the camera there. Now people are surprised if
there's not a camera there. People assume everything they do
is on cameras. So if Judge Edo had not messed
up the OJ trial that way, then then cameras in
the courtroom I think just would have been everywhere and
generally accepted. But after OJ, yeah, yeah, you're starting to
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see it a little bit more. And now many of
the courtrooms have cameras built in for the WebEx system
that came in during COVID, and so it's easier to
get a camera in the courtroom, and more and more
trials are at least being televised that way, though it's
not as good as having a TV camera in there.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Do you think the Supreme Court of the United States
will ever have cameras?
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yes? I do, I do. They should, They should have already.
The people deserve that. The people deserve that. And now
at least you get audio out of the Supreme Court.
That's relatively new. But give me break, it is all
those people, all those people work for the people, right,
so the people have to have access to that. They
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have to see what's going on, and nobody's going to
play to the cameras in the Supreme Court, but I
don't think they would in your typical case anyway. So
I look forward to the day when that is the norm.
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A couple of quick notes. Hugely important decision today from
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Scotus and that is unanimous. I believe Judge Brown, I
think wrote the unanimous opinion. I've looked at the opinion,
I perused it. I haven't read it the way I
would for one of my cases, or to really talk
with you about it in depth. But it's a tremendous
opinion for the United States of America because we all
know for this nation to be all that it was
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meant to be and all that it should be, we
got to become color blind. I mean we've got to,
and we're getting there. We're making huge strides. As much
as some people try to create fake racial issues, there
are still some real racial issues. But we got to
become color blind. And so this idea that Okay, it's
okay to discriminate against people of a particular race, but
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not against everybody else, it's insane, right, So these vestiges
in the law that say it's okay to discriminate against
people who happen to be white. That's insane. It goes
against the whole idea we don't discriminate on race. And
so another important decision along those lines today and a
real simple case, right, you had this nice woman happened
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to be born white. She's working this job in Ohio,
and then all of a sudden she doesn't get a
promotion she apparently should get, and it goes to somebody
I think in this example this case happened to be lesbian,
I believe, and then all of a sudden she gets
demoted and another person I think, maybe another lesbian I'll
double check the case during a break gets the position
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over her, and she sues. And what happens is in
the law in the sixth Circuit where Ohio is. There's
some split in the circuits, which is how the Supremes
got involved in the law in that circuit. If you're
a white person suing for race discrimination until eight o'clock
Mountain time today, you had to meet a higher standard
to be able to bring your case than if you
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happen to be a person of color and of course,
the Supreme Court said no, no, No, discrimination based on
race is discrimination based on race. It doesn't matter what
your race is, even if you're white. So very very
good decision today for the United States, and so glad
it was nine zip Boulder. We got to talk some Boulder,
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and I know we're going to talk about a lot
of Musk, trumpetc. And you know there's some real damage
being done at the moment. Is it part of a
bigger play, But we've got to talk about Boulder because
the reality is, and hopefully this will help open some
eyes for these upcoming statewide races. Reality I think would
really be stunning to your typical Colorado Democrat Republican are unaffiliated,
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who I'm sure has no clue because they have real
lives that we've got a Democrat party and governor in
Colorado so out of control that they are actually and
this is provably true, they are out there actively recruiting
illegal immigrants to come to Colorado, actively recruiting them to
come to Colorado through the laws they're passing, and they know,
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they know for a fact that among the illegals they
are recruiting to Colorado are going to be rapists, are
going to be murderers along with the otherwise good people.
They know that. Now, that doesn't mean they recruited this
terrorist that they went out and said, oh, do you
see this guy from Egypt and he's over stated his
visa and we know that he wants to go and
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he wants to burn alive as many Jewish people as
he can. No, they didn't go out and say, hey,
let's recruit that guy here. But they knew when they
passed these laws, including come here, we'll give you a
driver's license right away, right away as an illegal immigrant,
and the other things they've done to recruit they knew
that there would be rapist, murderers and a good chance
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some terrorists among the otherwise good people who came. And
they did it anyway. That is one of the most immoral,
one of the sickest, one of the most obscene things
that any public official, any elected official, any political party
could do. But they did it anyway, knowing you would
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have Coloraden's who would be raped, you'd have Colorado's who
would be murdered, and a real chance there'd be a
terrorism here, knowing that would be the result of their policy.
Yet they recruited illegals here anyway they went. Think about
how far out of their way they went to waive
the banner and say to illegals, come to Colorado, will
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protect you, will welcome you, will help you. They're going
to give you driver's licenses day one, and you can
use a nine year old I d yeah, that's how
sick it is. So will it open enough eyes for
this electoral cycle? I guess we'll find out together. But
it does lead to the question why do you think
they do it? And again my point the fix. I
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just call it the capitalists proposal, but it's really not.
Others had the idea before you pass the law that says,
all of a sudden, the victims of sanctuary state and
sanctuary city can sue those governmental entities. Sanctuary state and
sanctuary city end today. They absolutely end today. Pass that law.
You're on the Dan Caplis Show.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
And now back to the Dan capless Show podcast.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
Big of this bill.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
He know it better than almost anybody, and he never
had a problem until right after you left head of
you saw these samens you made about me, which I'm
sure you can get for age.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
It's very fresh Ponte. He said the most beautiful.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
Things about and he hasn't said bad about me personally,
but I'm sure that'll be next.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
But I'm I'm very disappointed in Ala and I've helped
a lot, a lot.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Yeah, So what do you think? Way, what do you
think about this public battle? Who's right, who's wrong? Is
it staged? Is this for d chess? And how does
it end? How much damage to the GOP or does
it end up being a plus for the GOP? Three
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So if you just joined us, thank you. Were talking
about the big US Supreme Court opinion today standing for
the important principle that you cannot discriminate on race, even
if it's a white person, very important for America, for
all people in America, regardless of race, And talking about
how once again this horror and boulder we saw over
the weekend is just a much and a horrific, much
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more visible example of horrors going none all over the
state of Colorado because Jared Polis and the Democrats are
actively recruiting illegal immigrants to come to Colorado knowing that
among those who are otherwise good people, there will be rapists,
there will be murderers. Good chances there will be terrorists,
yet they still recruit them in large numbers. So hopefully
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the voter's eyes are opened. I wish that that horror
had never happened in Boulder. But again, when they're actively
recruiting illegals to come to Colorado knowing among those are
going to be some murderers, rapists, et cetera, think about
the mentality they know. They know they are going to
be horrors like this, not the exact form, but they
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know they are going to be horrors like this, and
polists and the rest of the Democrats they bring it on.
It is an acceptable casualty rate to them because they
know they're not going to be the casualties, and nobody
should be the casualties. Three or three someone three eight, two, five,
five the numbers. So what do you think of the
trump elon Musk thing that's going on. Are you with
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that crew that says, hey, you know that they've got
a plan here, this is all going to work out.
Or is this thing just spinning out of control and
like a tornado, doing a lot of damage along the way,
some of which may not be repairable. Let's get a
little more President Trump on Elon.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
But I'm very disappointed because Elon knew the inner workings
of this bill better than almost anybody sitting.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Here, better than you people. He knew everything about it.
He had no problem with it. All of a sudden
he had a problem.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
And he only developed the problem when you found out
that we're going to have to cut the ev mento,
because that's bigions and billions of dollars.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
And it really is unfair. We want to have cars
of all types electric. We want to have electric, but
we want to have.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
A gasoline combustion, we want to have different we want
to have hybrids.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
We want to have all We want to be able
to sell everything.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
And where that was cut and Congress wanted to cut it.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
It became a little bit different. And I can understand that.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Yeah, So I mean, just to get your take on that,
I think it's unhealthy right now. I think it's unhealthy
for the GOP. I think it's unhealthy for all of
us who have Tesla in our for one case, right though,
if I give you a stock tip to the exact opposite,
that's the only thing that makes any sense. But I'm
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probably ryan. I'm probably going to go out and buy
some more Tesla, you know, because I think it was
down what fourteen percent today? Oh well, yeah, it's yeah,
And I know it's a volatile stock, but it's been
very good to me over the years, and I expect
it's going to be very good continuing into the future,
you know, in a large part because of Elon Musk.
And but here's the thing, why is this all really happening? Mile?
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The best take I have on this is that Elon Musk,
for his own business maybe even personal reasons, right now,
he needs separation from President Trump. I wish it wasn't happening.
I think he was very helpful to getting Trump elected.
We'll talk separately about whether you think Trump would have
been elected without him, but he was very helpful. He
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can be very very helpful to GOP candidates across the country.
And so, yeah, you hate to see this, but personally
and from a business standpoint, he probably feels as if
he needs a dramatic separation from President Trump. And I
think that's what's going on right now, and that's what's
playing out. And whether this is kind of All Star
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Wrestling where they've kind of gotten together and figured out
how they're going to throw barbs at each other, or
whether this is all just genuine and spontaneous. I think
Elon Musk's goal is to get clear, obvious public separation
from President Trump, and the only way he can do
that is through some sort of really ugly spot.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
This is a tantrum, though Dan I did not see
this coming, and I think the thing that separates it
from me from possibly being what in pro wrestling is
called k fabe, meaning that the fall pretense of a
few used to drive heat and viewers, et cetera. Is
this bombshelly drops that the reason the Epstein files and
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logs have not been released is because Trump's in them.
I mean, you don't go there. I think that's a
bridge too far. And I think as a line he
crosses that you cannot uncross the bellow, that you cannot unring.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
It's a great point. Yeah, that's a great point. So
at this point it might just be what it appears
on the surface to be. Right now, Listen, I still
think the starting point for all of this right because
it started somewhere. The starting point I think is Musk
felt he needed separation from Trump. He needed it for Tesla.
In his mind, he needed it for other reasons, probably
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personal as well. But yeah, you're right when it goes
to that point. Yeah, hard to come back from that,
and I expect we'll get a Trump response to that
as well. I don't believe for one second, not one second,
that Trump is in the Epstein files any kind of
negative way. You know why, Ryan, Come on, we all
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know it. If he was, yep, we would have known
it during the twenty sixteen campaign, twenty twenty campaign, the
twenty twenty four campaign. It would have been front and
center because who controlled the Epstein files the Biden administration.
That's exactly what I thought. Yeah, so I don't buy
that now. Listen, I don't doubt that somewhere it mentions Trump,
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but not in any sort of inappropriate or sinister way.
You know my understanding. Right, The mention of Trump, I think,
was that Trump had been informed by mar A Lago
employee that Epstein had been doing something inappropriate, and Trump
banned him from the property. So yeah, Trump's name may
show up in there, but hey, speaking of that, George Clooney,
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you know a broken clock. You know what they say,
right twice a day? Is George Clooney actually write about this.
Do you think Trump is a last beyond this term.
I don't think so. I think it'd be very hard
to do it. Remember this land. Trump is a celebrity,
that's what he is.
Speaker 6 (18:07):
I mean, he's got a he has a star in
Hollywood Boulevard. I don't have a star in Hollywood Bulevard.
I'm not lobbying for one. I'm just saying, you know,
it seems like an oversight.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
By the way, what's going on.
Speaker 6 (18:19):
He's a celebrity, and he's the President of the United States,
and so he has been elected, duly elected, fair deal.
I'm not complaining about that. That's how it works. That's
how this democracy works. But he's also a celebrity, and
he is charming, and to the people who like him,
they think he's funny, too great.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Many others they don't.
Speaker 6 (18:39):
And so when he is finished, and he will be finished,
they're going to have to go looking for someone who
can deliver the message that he delivered with the same
kind of charisma, and they don't have.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
That is clooney, actually right about that. You're on the
Dan Capla ship.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
President Trump elon Musk all out Ryan's right. Once Elon
crosses that line into Epstein file saying Trump won't release
him because he's in them, then yeah, I think you
can be pretty sure this is a genuine bad blood.
So how does it end? Where does it end? I
think it's inevitable it ends with some kind of reconciliation,
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which may be behind the scenes because of my theories.
Right at the starting point for all of this is
Elon Musk decided he needed a very public, credible and
I put that in quote separation from President Trump, maybe
for his business, personal, both whatever he needed it, and
I think that's what generated this and maybe the obviously
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false Epstein allegation, though maybe technically true because Trump's probably
mentioned in there in some positive sense, like he told
Epstein to take a hike. Yeah, it is designed to
help convince others that that, yeah, Musk has separated from Trump.
So I think that's what drove all this. How much
damage to the GOP, I think it could be considerable,
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because I do think Musk was very important and getting
the president reelected. I don't think any of us will
ever be able to say definitively whether President Trump gets
elected or not without Musk's money, though I would love
your take on that. I think he probably does, but
I think it's a lot closer, and I think that
Elon Musk was in a position to be such a
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game changer, such a field lever, a leveler for GOP
candidates nationwide. That it's another reason I'm sad to see this,
so love, you're taking that much more to talk about. Obviously,
we're talking about the horror in Boulder and the blood
on the hands of the Democratic Party in Colorado and
the governor. And you know, I don't use that phrase lightly,
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but I use it here because it's true. And it's
not only this whole or in Boulder, but it's across
the state, in lots of cases that we never even
hear about or see in the news, where somebody's raped
by somebody here illegally, somebody's murdered by somebody here illegally.
And again, you know, it doesn't mean that everybody coming
here illegally are rapists and murderers. They're not. It's a
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small percentage who are, but any percentage is too high
a percentage. And that's the point is that Polis and
the Democrats know when they're out actively recruiting, and that's
what they're doing with these laws, waving the banner, actively
recruiting people here illegally to come to Colorado that there's
going to be a certain percentage of a rapist. They
know when they pass these laws that it will lead
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to Colorado women being raped, it will lead to Colorado
people being murdered, It'll be lead to Colorado people being
unnecessarily slaughtered on the roadways. They know it may lead
to terrorism, and they do it anyway, all for their
own political gain. I mean that not every political difference
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is a moral difference. This is profoundly immoral what they've
been doing because they know the price of the political
benefit they get from attracting illegals to Colorado is going
to be real, live innocent people raped, murdered in this case,
set on fire, and they recruit anyway. Okay, you think
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ran is They're going to come a point is something
like this horror Boulder at tipping point where voters' eyes
get opened and they say, no, no, we can't do
this anymore. Even if I don't like the Republicans, we
can't do this anymore.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Well, and thanks for teeing up that segue potentially for
me here. But you gotta hear the words of film
none the Wiser on CNN with John Berman on this
very issue.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
It will knock your socks off, and not in a
good way.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Yeah, yeah, and you know, fascinating. I'm glad you flagged
that sound this morning because Wiser, now, if he's serious
about trying to compete in the governor's race, and I
don't think he is. I think he's just positioning to
try to have enough leverage to get Bennett's Senate seat
from Bennett when they all assume Bennett wins the governor's race.
Seems like some chicken countant to me. But yeah, here's
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what Wiser had to say in part. Let me first
ask you about that federal decision to detain the family
and apparently very shortly to remove them from the United States.
What is your view of that.
Speaker 7 (23:20):
My view is it's critical that our immigration system work
under the rule of law, according everyone due process of law.
Expedite and removal is a rare, but it's a constitutional procedure.
The critical fact of our immigration system is we have
a backlog of over a million people who've gone through
procedures like this who haven't yet actually been deported. That's
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where our focus should be when we talk about immigration.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Well, what the hell's he talking about? He acknowledges expedited
is constitutional. How can you ever get a more obvious
need for expedited than the family of a terrorist, who
in the right mind would want to leave mare. First,
they're here illegally, they shouldn't be here. And how in
the world, and we got to get to the bottom
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of this, how in the world did the Polish slash
Biden administrations leave him here after he legally tried to
buy a gun? I thought that was their holy grail. Right,
we have to have all these kids unnecessarily slaughtered in
schools because the Democrats. The Democrats hate people with the gun,
good guys and girls with the gun, more than they
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love children. So we can't have good guys and girls
with guns in schools protecting the kids from mass shooters
because Democrats hate guns above all. But they're going to
let illegal immigrants have guns. How was he allowed to stay?
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Then?
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Some more wiser here by the way, that first answer,
I think a very not ready for prime time kind
of answered. And you would support that removal if it
goes forward under due process.
Speaker 7 (24:53):
The important part about your process is if someone has
a basis to stay here, they have a legitimate claim
for asylum, that's a threatened that's going to get evaluated
by an independent fact finder. And that's how our immigration
system should work. If you work based on the facts,
based on the law, it shouldn't be targeting people in
ways that are hap hazard, in ways that deny you process,
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or in ways that are based on fear, not based
on fact.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
How can anybody with a straight face try to make
that argument. Wait a second, The father and the family
just went up to Boulder to mass murder people. You
know that is a family which has had a terrorist
in the middle of the family as the head of
the household. What sane person could argue for a second
that that family should be allowed to stay. Are you
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saying this is hap hazard or based on fear.
Speaker 7 (25:44):
This is a procedure that's been used before, an expot
at a procedure, And the point is they may have
a claim for asylum, they may not. That'll get decided
by the data process, and that's how it should work.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
You know what that tells you that there's real hope
for the GOP in Colorado. Not because he's going to
be the DEM nominee he's not right, but because it
shows you how in the grip of the psycho crazy
far left radicals with big money, the Colorado Democratic Party
is including our own attorney general because really, I mean,
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this guy clerk for US Supreme Court justices. He can't
possibly believe what he's saying, but he's got to appeal
to that crazy fringe far left that controls the party here,
so he's willing to say that stuff. You know, it
creates a much more dangerous state. But the silver lining
is it gives the GOP and opening here Wow three
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the end, be very interesting to see, Ryan. And there
may have been some late breaking news on that I'm
getting ready for my next job, but I haven't seen
any anything definitive yet on who was it? Who was
it who found out that this illegal immigrant tried to
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buy a gun and then didn't act on it? Is
that Polis's Colorado government or did they act on it
and then Biden decided to give him a pass the
Biden administration?
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Or is it both.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
But we have got to get to the bottom of that.
So let me get back to this Clooney thing for
a minute. If you just joined us, Thank you, George
Clooney obviously wrong about so much, and thank goodness because
he helped Democrats lose. But this business about whether trump Ism,
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as he calls it, will last beyond this first term?
Is he right about that? Do you think trump Ism
lasts beyond this term?
Speaker 6 (27:48):
Don't think so. I think it'd be very hard to
do it. Remember this, dol Trump is a celebrity, That's what.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
And then he goes on with his garbage choice. Second,
how you could say the same thing about Reagan He
ended up being one of the best US president and
says Trump has been. But is he right? And I
do want to launch on that when we come back,
because I have some very strong feelings on this. I
think the GOP, while in a very good position in
some ways, is in very very dangerous territory in others,
(28:16):
because I think there's a real danger that what Clooney
is saying in this one case broken clocks right twice
a day in this one case, he may well be
right here In the Dankapla show.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
And he never had a problem until right after you left.
How have you saw these savans he made about me,
which I'm sure you can get very it's very fresh.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
He said the most beautiful.
Speaker 5 (28:47):
Things about me, and he hasn't said bad about me personally,
but I'm sure that'll be next.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
But I'm very disappointed. In a lot. I've helped you
a lot, a lot.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Yeah, it's gotten personal, that's for sure. Playing the Epstein
art saying that that's why Trump won't release the Epstein files,
because he's in them. And then we have a texter
who says, Elon Mosk better hope that Donald Trump is
in the Epstein filess or he's going to owe Donald
Trump a lot of money.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
Was in.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Musk is a smart guy. So this we know, right,
We know two things for sure. One is that Trump
did nothing wrong when it comes to Epstein. We know
that to one hundred percent certainty because if he had
we know it already, right who controlled the Epstein files,
right the Biden administration. So yeah, we know that Trump
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did not do anything wrong when it came to Epstein.
But his name probably does appear in the files in
another context, such as when he told banned Epstein from
mar A Lago because I think it was somebody in
the spot said Epstein was acting inappropriate at least. So yes,
uh Musk is protected because Trump is mentioned, but mentioned
in a positive way. Is the way I believe all
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that's going to play out. Glad you're here. Three or
three seOne, three, eight, two, five five the number A
text or dan George Clooney is wrong. Little Marco can
deliver the message, so can J. D. Carolyn Love it
as well. And what we're talking about is George Clooney,
who's wrong about virtually everything, maybe right about this when
he says trump Ism will not last past the end
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of this term. I think this is a grave danger
of enormous magnitude to the GOP everywhere in America because
so many of these voters in twenty twenty four, just
like sixteen, right, but twenty twenty four, so many of
these voters were not Republican voters. They're Trump voters. We've
been talking about it since election Day, and there is
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a grave danger that the GOP is not going to
be able to hold on to enough of those to
win the really close races, so that GOP has the
opportunity now to win those voters over. But to assume
they've won them over is way, way, way wrong. To
assume they've won them over just because they voted Republican
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in the last election. No, so many were just voting
for Trump. And we've seen examples of that, right since
twenty sixteen, we've seen win a bull Senate race is lost,
you know, because the candidates, you know, we're try to
imitate Trump, et cetera. And that's that the voters wanted
that from Trump. But there's only one Trump, Yes, So
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it's going to be very interesting to watch this, and
I hope the GOP takes advantage of the gift Trump
gave them, you know, the wins, the opportunity these years
to convince the voters to stay with them when the
president enters that last two years of his term and
then when he's gone. Now, because of that opportunity and
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because of what the texture alludes to, and we've talked
about a lot, right the enormous talent on the GOP bench.
In terms of the White House, I think there is
a tremendous opportunity to hold on to the White House
because look at I mean, you've got jd You've got
Marco Rubio, You've got other really talented people. The GOP
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is stacked. You look at the Democrats. I mean, Ryan,
could you think of a single Democrat now other than
I think Josh Shapiro's really talented to His problem is
he's part of a party who's big money folks in
leadership has become kind of anti Semitic. So that's a
problem for their most talented guy, Governor Shapiro Pennsylvania. But
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beyond that, where's the talent on the Democrats side the GOP?
Speaker 2 (32:33):
It's overflowing. Dan, That's where I think George Clooney is
exactly wrong. I mean, he has no knowledge, awareness, interest,
or even curiosity about what's going on on our side
of the ledger. He sees these other people and I
would add Ronda Santas to that list the textas provided
these are heavyweights in terms of the arena of idea
and another one that would be formidable. But there are
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no Democrats that are reasonable rational. I mean John Fetterman,
but he'll never get nominated for larger office in the
Democratic Party, and Josh Shapiro can't because he's Jewish and
it's an anti Semitic party.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Now, yeah, and that's that's the problem they have right now.
Is anybody good they will eat right, they'll kill him.
They'll kill them in the crib. So that's that's the
problem they have. But yes, but I think there's a
separation between the White House and the rest of these
races around the country in terms of will the Trump
voters show up for GOP and that's where it gets
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more dangerous. But on the White House level, and listen, Clooney,
he's like I say, he's wrong about virtually everything, but
but I think it is literally true that that to
a certain extent, he calls it trump Ism, right, it's
it's make America great again. To a certain extent, there
will be leakage when President Trump is done, no matter
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how good the candidate is. But I just think that
that these conservative principles work. Donald Trump's been able to
prove that. And it's not always purely conservative principles for him,
but the conservative principles work. He's done tremendously with that
America benefits from it, which makes it more likely then
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whether it's a JD. Vance or Marco Rubio or Ron
De Santis or somebody else that they'll never be exactly
like Trump. They're never going to have that same appeal.
There's only one man ever who would have that appeal,
and that's Donald Trump. But they are in a position
to take advantage of much of the base but then
build on it with their own appeal.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Trump is a unique phenomenon and it cannot be underestimated.
That's why the Democrats lost to him twice is they
underestimated him. You cannot do that, and you can't take
him for granted. The energy that he generated, dan the rallies,
I've never seen anything like in American politics. So you
have Jdvance, you have Marco Rubio, you have Ron De Santis,
you have many others that can articulate the message, and logically,
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left brain might do a better job of that than
Trump even but the visceral emotional response that Trump in
generated and people who never voted before to hold onto
those voters is going to be a challenge.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
It is, I believe for purposes of the White House.
The GOP is going to meet that challenge because of
the enormous talent and how bad the Democrats are. When
we start getting down to the state level, they really
close races. That's where it gets scary for the GOP.
And you've still got to keep your a game, you know,
because even though the Democrats don't have any national talent,
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when you get down to individual state races and you
start talking about popular Democrats within the state, maybe they're
the lieutenant governor this or that, that's where you start
getting into a different dynamics. So when we come back,
lots to do in the next hour. Tremendous US Supreme
Court decision today great for the entire country. We'll get
into that. We'll touch on the bolder horror and the
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active recruitment of illegal immigrants to Colorado by Polists and
the Democrats when they know some of those people are
going to be rapist, murders and even
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Thank you Sheriff Steve and John Caldera for covering while
I was in this week's trial. Really do appreciate that.
And Ryan and Kelly obviously always the critical infrastructure, as
we like to say around here, but so much to
talk about. I've been dying to dive into this with
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you in my business. You know, when we go to trial,
obviously it's a bubble. Everything else gets frozen out twenty
four to seven. You're focused on that case. So I've
been playing catch up today and it is amazing what
has been going on out there, and you would think
it's going to cause a lot more Republicans to get elected.
But we'll have that conversation as well, we want to
lead with, of course, this public and I'll put battle
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in quotes just in case it's kind of staged between
President Trump and Elon Musk. And one of the questions
for you will be do you think it's staged at
this point? And if so, to what end one way
or the other? How do you think it does end?
I mean, we all know it's going to end with
a kumbaya, but how does that end? How does that happen?
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Three oh three seven one three eight two five five
text d A N five seven seven three nine. I've
indulge me one quick personal moment. I just I love
Adam's County Courthouse. I love Adams County Court and just
so grateful to our jury out there and to all JERRYS.
Ryan picture this. Okay, seven thirty Monday morning. Okay, Monday
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mornings are tough as they are, right seven thirty Monday morning.
And I always I make it a point in trial
to be the first guy in the door of the courthouse,
so I get there early, to be there when the
door's open at seven thirty. How long do you think
the line was at seven of jurors because they it
turned out, they had our trial, which was an important trial,
and then they had a murder trial. That line went
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on forever. I mean, I'll show you a picture. But
so I'm walking up to the front door, and as
an attorney, you know you can go in a side door.
You can completely bypass the line, and that line all
these good people they're leaving their families, their jobs, everything
else to go serve as jurors. So I looked at
that door, I looked at that line, and of course
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I walked it seemed like two blocks down to the
end of the line, and dutifully took my place at
the end of the line, as I should have. That
door should not be there for attorney, in my humble opinion,
maybe for the das who work in the building, but
the rest of us should have to go to the
end of the line. And of course that is what
I did. But very grateful for the outcome, hard fought case.
And it was funny I walked in today and we
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have this wonderful front desk coordinator and she said, I've
never seen you, Matt before, because she came for closing argument.
But it was a closing argument that required that honest,
righteous anger, and fortunately the jury you know, got the
case right, as they almost always do. So grateful for that.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Now, what's your stance on cameras in the courtroom, Dan, Oh,
I think they should be there. Yeah, I think they Yeah,
I think they should be there all the time.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
They judge Edo's what's the plight where judge Edo something
the pooch on that one, because otherwise we'd have him
standard but he abused it and it's just say it
a bad name.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Are there a propensity? Is there a propensity?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Would there be a likelihood that judges and attorneys would
be playing to the cameras more?
Speaker 1 (03:41):
You know what I mean? No, that that's where itdo
distorted it. Yeah, because there'd been plenty in the court
cameras in the courtroom before I'd covered those trials, I'd
been in those trials, I'd tried a case with cameras
in the courtroom, and it just especially in this day
and age ran where you know, most of so many
people now into their twenty and thirties, camera's not a
big deal. Grown up with the cell phone cameras, they've
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grown up with cameras everywhere, you know. For people older
than that, then oh wow, there's a camera there everybody says, hey,
you see the camera there. Now people are surprised if
there's not a camera there. People assume everything they do
is on cameras. So if Judge Edo had not messed
up the OJ trial that way, then then cameras in
the courtroom I think just would have been everywhere and
generally accepted. But after OJ, yeah, yeah, you're starting to
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see it a little bit more. And now many of
the courtrooms have cameras built in for the WebEx system
that came in during COVID, and so it's easier to
get a camera in the courtroom, and more and more
trials are at least being televised that way, though it's
not as good as having a TV camera in there.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Do you think the Supreme Court of the United States
will ever have cameras?
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yes? I do, I do. They should, They should have already.
The people deserve that. The people deserve that. And now
at least you get audio out of the Supreme Court.
That's relatively new. But give me break, it is all
those people, all those people work for the people, right,
so the people have to have access to that. They
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have to see what's going on, and nobody's going to
play to the cameras in the Supreme Court, but I
don't think they would in your typical case anyway. So
I look forward to the day when that is the norm.
My friend three out three someone three eight two five
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A couple of quick notes. Hugely important decision today from
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Scotus and that is unanimous. I believe Judge Brown, I
think wrote the unanimous opinion. I've looked at the opinion,
I perused it. I haven't read it the way I
would for one of my cases, or to really talk
with you about it in depth. But it's a tremendous
opinion for the United States of America because we all
know for this nation to be all that it was
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meant to be and all that it should be, we
got to become color blind. I mean we've got to,
and we're getting there. We're making huge strides. As much
as some people try to create fake racial issues, there
are still some real racial issues. But we got to
become color blind. And so this idea that Okay, it's
okay to discriminate against people of a particular race, but
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not against everybody else, it's insane, right, So these vestiges
in the law that say it's okay to discriminate against
people who happen to be white. That's insane. It goes
against the whole idea we don't discriminate on race. And
so another important decision along those lines today and a
real simple case, right, you had this nice woman happened
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to be born white. She's working this job in Ohio,
and then all of a sudden she doesn't get a
promotion she apparently should get, and it goes to somebody
I think in this example this case happened to be lesbian,
I believe, and then all of a sudden she gets
demoted and another person I think, maybe another lesbian I'll
double check the case during a break gets the position
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over her, and she sues. And what happens is in
the law in the sixth Circuit where Ohio is. There's
some split in the circuits, which is how the Supremes
got involved in the law in that circuit. If you're
a white person suing for race discrimination until eight o'clock
Mountain time today, you had to meet a higher standard
to be able to bring your case than if you
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happen to be a person of color and of course,
the Supreme Court said no, no, No, discrimination based on
race is discrimination based on race. It doesn't matter what
your race is, even if you're white. So very very
good decision today for the United States, and so glad
it was nine zip Boulder. We got to talk some Boulder,
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and I know we're going to talk about a lot
of Musk, trumpetc. And you know there's some real damage
being done at the moment. Is it part of a
bigger play, But we've got to talk about Boulder because
the reality is, and hopefully this will help open some
eyes for these upcoming statewide races. Reality I think would
really be stunning to your typical Colorado Democrat Republican are unaffiliated,
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who I'm sure has no clue because they have real
lives that we've got a Democrat party and governor in
Colorado so out of control that they are actually and
this is provably true, they are out there actively recruiting
illegal immigrants to come to Colorado, actively recruiting them to
come to Colorado through the laws they're passing, and they know,
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they know for a fact that among the illegals they
are recruiting to Colorado are going to be rapists, are
going to be murderers along with the otherwise good people.
They know that. Now, that doesn't mean they recruited this
terrorist that they went out and said, oh, do you
see this guy from Egypt and he's over stated his
visa and we know that he wants to go and
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he wants to burn alive as many Jewish people as
he can. No, they didn't go out and say, hey,
let's recruit that guy here. But they knew when they
passed these laws, including come here, we'll give you a
driver's license right away, right away as an illegal immigrant,
and the other things they've done to recruit they knew
that there would be rapist, murderers and a good chance
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some terrorists among the otherwise good people who came. And
they did it anyway. That is one of the most immoral,
one of the sickest, one of the most obscene things
that any public official, any elected official, any political party
could do. But they did it anyway, knowing you would
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have Coloraden's who would be raped, you'd have Colorado's who
would be murdered, and a real chance there'd be a
terrorism here, knowing that would be the result of their policy.
Yet they recruited illegals here anyway they went. Think about
how far out of their way they went to waive
the banner and say to illegals, come to Colorado, will
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protect you, will welcome you, will help you. They're going
to give you driver's licenses day one, and you can
use a nine year old I d yeah, that's how
sick it is. So will it open enough eyes for
this electoral cycle? I guess we'll find out together. But
it does lead to the question why do you think
they do it? And again my point the fix. I
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just call it the capitalists proposal, but it's really not.
Others had the idea before you pass the law that says,
all of a sudden, the victims of sanctuary state and
sanctuary city can sue those governmental entities. Sanctuary state and
sanctuary city end today. They absolutely end today. Pass that law.
You're on the Dan Caplis Show.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
And now back to the Dan capless Show podcast.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
Big of this bill.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
He know it better than almost anybody, and he never
had a problem until right after you left head of
you saw these samens you made about me, which I'm
sure you can get for age.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
It's very fresh Ponte. He said the most beautiful.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
Things about and he hasn't said bad about me personally,
but I'm sure that'll be next.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
But I'm I'm very disappointed in Ala and I've helped
a lot, a lot.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Yeah, So what do you think? Way, what do you
think about this public battle? Who's right, who's wrong? Is
it staged? Is this for d chess? And how does
it end? How much damage to the GOP or does
it end up being a plus for the GOP? Three
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number text d A N five seven seven three nine.
(11:34):
So if you just joined us, thank you. Were talking
about the big US Supreme Court opinion today standing for
the important principle that you cannot discriminate on race, even
if it's a white person, very important for America, for
all people in America, regardless of race, And talking about
how once again this horror and boulder we saw over
the weekend is just a much and a horrific, much
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more visible example of horrors going none all over the
state of Colorado because Jared Polis and the Democrats are
actively recruiting illegal immigrants to come to Colorado knowing that
among those who are otherwise good people, there will be rapists,
there will be murderers. Good chances there will be terrorists,
yet they still recruit them in large numbers. So hopefully
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the voter's eyes are opened. I wish that that horror
had never happened in Boulder. But again, when they're actively
recruiting illegals to come to Colorado knowing among those are
going to be some murderers, rapists, et cetera, think about
the mentality they know. They know they are going to
be horrors like this, not the exact form, but they
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know they are going to be horrors like this, and
polists and the rest of the Democrats they bring it on.
It is an acceptable casualty rate to them because they
know they're not going to be the casualties, and nobody
should be the casualties. Three or three someone three eight, two, five,
five the numbers. So what do you think of the
trump elon Musk thing that's going on. Are you with
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that crew that says, hey, you know that they've got
a plan here, this is all going to work out.
Or is this thing just spinning out of control and
like a tornado, doing a lot of damage along the way,
some of which may not be repairable. Let's get a
little more President Trump on Elon.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
But I'm very disappointed because Elon knew the inner workings
of this bill better than almost anybody sitting.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Here, better than you people. He knew everything about it.
He had no problem with it. All of a sudden
he had a problem.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
And he only developed the problem when you found out
that we're going to have to cut the ev mento,
because that's bigions and billions of dollars.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
And it really is unfair. We want to have cars
of all types electric. We want to have electric, but
we want to have.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
A gasoline combustion, we want to have different we want
to have hybrids.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
We want to have all We want to be able
to sell everything.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
And where that was cut and Congress wanted to cut it.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
It became a little bit different. And I can understand that.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Yeah, So I mean, just to get your take on that,
I think it's unhealthy right now. I think it's unhealthy
for the GOP. I think it's unhealthy for all of
us who have Tesla in our for one case, right though,
if I give you a stock tip to the exact opposite,
that's the only thing that makes any sense. But I'm
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probably ryan. I'm probably going to go out and buy
some more Tesla, you know, because I think it was
down what fourteen percent today? Oh well, yeah, it's yeah,
And I know it's a volatile stock, but it's been
very good to me over the years, and I expect
it's going to be very good continuing into the future,
you know, in a large part because of Elon Musk.
And but here's the thing, why is this all really happening? Mile?
(14:47):
The best take I have on this is that Elon Musk,
for his own business maybe even personal reasons, right now,
he needs separation from President Trump. I wish it wasn't happening.
I think he was very helpful to getting Trump elected.
We'll talk separately about whether you think Trump would have
been elected without him, but he was very helpful. He
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can be very very helpful to GOP candidates across the country.
And so, yeah, you hate to see this, but personally
and from a business standpoint, he probably feels as if
he needs a dramatic separation from President Trump. And I
think that's what's going on right now, and that's what's
playing out. And whether this is kind of All Star
(15:30):
Wrestling where they've kind of gotten together and figured out
how they're going to throw barbs at each other, or
whether this is all just genuine and spontaneous. I think
Elon Musk's goal is to get clear, obvious public separation
from President Trump, and the only way he can do
that is through some sort of really ugly spot.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
This is a tantrum, though Dan I did not see
this coming, and I think the thing that separates it
from me from possibly being what in pro wrestling is
called k fabe, meaning that the fall pretense of a
few used to drive heat and viewers, et cetera. Is
this bombshelly drops that the reason the Epstein files and
(16:09):
logs have not been released is because Trump's in them.
I mean, you don't go there. I think that's a
bridge too far. And I think as a line he
crosses that you cannot uncross the bellow, that you cannot unring.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
It's a great point. Yeah, that's a great point. So
at this point it might just be what it appears
on the surface to be. Right now, Listen, I still
think the starting point for all of this right because
it started somewhere. The starting point I think is Musk
felt he needed separation from Trump. He needed it for Tesla.
In his mind, he needed it for other reasons, probably
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personal as well. But yeah, you're right when it goes
to that point. Yeah, hard to come back from that,
and I expect we'll get a Trump response to that
as well. I don't believe for one second, not one second,
that Trump is in the Epstein files any kind of
negative way. You know why, Ryan, Come on, we all
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know it. If he was, yep, we would have known
it during the twenty sixteen campaign, twenty twenty campaign, the
twenty twenty four campaign. It would have been front and
center because who controlled the Epstein files the Biden administration.
That's exactly what I thought. Yeah, so I don't buy
that now. Listen, I don't doubt that somewhere it mentions Trump,
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but not in any sort of inappropriate or sinister way.
You know my understanding. Right, The mention of Trump, I think,
was that Trump had been informed by mar A Lago
employee that Epstein had been doing something inappropriate, and Trump
banned him from the property. So yeah, Trump's name may
show up in there, but hey, speaking of that, George Clooney,
(17:47):
you know a broken clock. You know what they say,
right twice a day? Is George Clooney actually write about this.
Do you think Trump is a last beyond this term.
I don't think so. I think it'd be very hard
to do it. Remember this land. Trump is a celebrity,
that's what he is.
Speaker 6 (18:07):
I mean, he's got a he has a star in
Hollywood Boulevard. I don't have a star in Hollywood Bulevard.
I'm not lobbying for one. I'm just saying, you know,
it seems like an oversight.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
By the way, what's going on.
Speaker 6 (18:19):
He's a celebrity, and he's the President of the United States,
and so he has been elected, duly elected, fair deal.
I'm not complaining about that. That's how it works. That's
how this democracy works. But he's also a celebrity, and
he is charming, and to the people who like him,
they think he's funny, too great.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Many others they don't.
Speaker 6 (18:39):
And so when he is finished, and he will be finished,
they're going to have to go looking for someone who
can deliver the message that he delivered with the same
kind of charisma, and they don't have.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
That is clooney, actually right about that. You're on the
Dan Capla ship.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
President Trump elon Musk all out Ryan's right. Once Elon
crosses that line into Epstein file saying Trump won't release
him because he's in them, then yeah, I think you
can be pretty sure this is a genuine bad blood.
So how does it end? Where does it end? I
think it's inevitable it ends with some kind of reconciliation,
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which may be behind the scenes because of my theories.
Right at the starting point for all of this is
Elon Musk decided he needed a very public, credible and
I put that in quote separation from President Trump, maybe
for his business, personal, both whatever he needed it, and
I think that's what generated this and maybe the obviously
(19:48):
false Epstein allegation, though maybe technically true because Trump's probably
mentioned in there in some positive sense, like he told
Epstein to take a hike. Yeah, it is designed to
help convince others that that, yeah, Musk has separated from Trump.
So I think that's what drove all this. How much
damage to the GOP, I think it could be considerable,
(20:10):
because I do think Musk was very important and getting
the president reelected. I don't think any of us will
ever be able to say definitively whether President Trump gets
elected or not without Musk's money, though I would love
your take on that. I think he probably does, but
I think it's a lot closer, and I think that
Elon Musk was in a position to be such a
(20:33):
game changer, such a field lever, a leveler for GOP
candidates nationwide. That it's another reason I'm sad to see this,
so love, you're taking that much more to talk about. Obviously,
we're talking about the horror in Boulder and the blood
on the hands of the Democratic Party in Colorado and
the governor. And you know, I don't use that phrase lightly,
(20:54):
but I use it here because it's true. And it's
not only this whole or in Boulder, but it's across
the state, in lots of cases that we never even
hear about or see in the news, where somebody's raped
by somebody here illegally, somebody's murdered by somebody here illegally.
And again, you know, it doesn't mean that everybody coming
here illegally are rapists and murderers. They're not. It's a
(21:17):
small percentage who are, but any percentage is too high
a percentage. And that's the point is that Polis and
the Democrats know when they're out actively recruiting, and that's
what they're doing with these laws, waving the banner, actively
recruiting people here illegally to come to Colorado that there's
going to be a certain percentage of a rapist. They
know when they pass these laws that it will lead
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to Colorado women being raped, it will lead to Colorado
people being murdered, It'll be lead to Colorado people being
unnecessarily slaughtered on the roadways. They know it may lead
to terrorism, and they do it anyway, all for their
own political gain. I mean that not every political difference
(22:00):
is a moral difference. This is profoundly immoral what they've
been doing because they know the price of the political
benefit they get from attracting illegals to Colorado is going
to be real, live innocent people raped, murdered in this case,
set on fire, and they recruit anyway. Okay, you think
(22:20):
ran is They're going to come a point is something
like this horror Boulder at tipping point where voters' eyes
get opened and they say, no, no, we can't do
this anymore. Even if I don't like the Republicans, we
can't do this anymore.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Well, and thanks for teeing up that segue potentially for
me here. But you gotta hear the words of film
none the Wiser on CNN with John Berman on this
very issue.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
It will knock your socks off, and not in a
good way.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Yeah, yeah, and you know, fascinating. I'm glad you flagged
that sound this morning because Wiser, now, if he's serious
about trying to compete in the governor's race, and I
don't think he is. I think he's just positioning to
try to have enough leverage to get Bennett's Senate seat
from Bennett when they all assume Bennett wins the governor's race.
Seems like some chicken countant to me. But yeah, here's
(23:08):
what Wiser had to say in part. Let me first
ask you about that federal decision to detain the family
and apparently very shortly to remove them from the United States.
What is your view of that.
Speaker 7 (23:20):
My view is it's critical that our immigration system work
under the rule of law, according everyone due process of law.
Expedite and removal is a rare, but it's a constitutional procedure.
The critical fact of our immigration system is we have
a backlog of over a million people who've gone through
procedures like this who haven't yet actually been deported. That's
(23:44):
where our focus should be when we talk about immigration.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Well, what the hell's he talking about? He acknowledges expedited
is constitutional. How can you ever get a more obvious
need for expedited than the family of a terrorist, who
in the right mind would want to leave mare. First,
they're here illegally, they shouldn't be here. And how in
the world, and we got to get to the bottom
(24:08):
of this, how in the world did the Polish slash
Biden administrations leave him here after he legally tried to
buy a gun? I thought that was their holy grail. Right,
we have to have all these kids unnecessarily slaughtered in
schools because the Democrats. The Democrats hate people with the gun,
good guys and girls with the gun, more than they
(24:29):
love children. So we can't have good guys and girls
with guns in schools protecting the kids from mass shooters
because Democrats hate guns above all. But they're going to
let illegal immigrants have guns. How was he allowed to stay?
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Then?
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Some more wiser here by the way, that first answer,
I think a very not ready for prime time kind
of answered. And you would support that removal if it
goes forward under due process.
Speaker 7 (24:53):
The important part about your process is if someone has
a basis to stay here, they have a legitimate claim
for asylum, that's a threatened that's going to get evaluated
by an independent fact finder. And that's how our immigration
system should work. If you work based on the facts,
based on the law, it shouldn't be targeting people in
ways that are hap hazard, in ways that deny you process,
(25:16):
or in ways that are based on fear, not based
on fact.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
How can anybody with a straight face try to make
that argument. Wait a second, The father and the family
just went up to Boulder to mass murder people. You
know that is a family which has had a terrorist
in the middle of the family as the head of
the household. What sane person could argue for a second
that that family should be allowed to stay. Are you
(25:40):
saying this is hap hazard or based on fear.
Speaker 7 (25:44):
This is a procedure that's been used before, an expot
at a procedure, And the point is they may have
a claim for asylum, they may not. That'll get decided
by the data process, and that's how it should work.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
You know what that tells you that there's real hope
for the GOP in Colorado. Not because he's going to
be the DEM nominee he's not right, but because it
shows you how in the grip of the psycho crazy
far left radicals with big money, the Colorado Democratic Party
is including our own attorney general because really, I mean,
(26:18):
this guy clerk for US Supreme Court justices. He can't
possibly believe what he's saying, but he's got to appeal
to that crazy fringe far left that controls the party here,
so he's willing to say that stuff. You know, it
creates a much more dangerous state. But the silver lining
is it gives the GOP and opening here Wow three
(26:41):
h three someone three eight two five five the number
text d A N five seven seven three nine in
the end, be very interesting to see, Ryan. And there
may have been some late breaking news on that I'm
getting ready for my next job, but I haven't seen
any anything definitive yet on who was it? Who was
it who found out that this illegal immigrant tried to
(27:04):
buy a gun and then didn't act on it? Is
that Polis's Colorado government or did they act on it
and then Biden decided to give him a pass the
Biden administration?
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Or is it both.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
But we have got to get to the bottom of that.
So let me get back to this Clooney thing for
a minute. If you just joined us, Thank you, George
Clooney obviously wrong about so much, and thank goodness because
he helped Democrats lose. But this business about whether trump Ism,
(27:37):
as he calls it, will last beyond this first term?
Is he right about that? Do you think trump Ism
lasts beyond this term?
Speaker 6 (27:48):
Don't think so. I think it'd be very hard to
do it. Remember this, dol Trump is a celebrity, That's what.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
And then he goes on with his garbage choice. Second,
how you could say the same thing about Reagan He
ended up being one of the best US president and
says Trump has been. But is he right? And I
do want to launch on that when we come back,
because I have some very strong feelings on this. I
think the GOP, while in a very good position in
some ways, is in very very dangerous territory in others,
(28:16):
because I think there's a real danger that what Clooney
is saying in this one case broken clocks right twice
a day in this one case, he may well be
right here In the Dankapla show.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
And he never had a problem until right after you left.
How have you saw these savans he made about me,
which I'm sure you can get very it's very fresh.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
He said the most beautiful.
Speaker 5 (28:47):
Things about me, and he hasn't said bad about me personally,
but I'm sure that'll be next.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
But I'm very disappointed. In a lot. I've helped you
a lot, a lot.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Yeah, it's gotten personal, that's for sure. Playing the Epstein
art saying that that's why Trump won't release the Epstein files,
because he's in them. And then we have a texter
who says, Elon Mosk better hope that Donald Trump is
in the Epstein filess or he's going to owe Donald
Trump a lot of money.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
Was in.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Musk is a smart guy. So this we know, right,
We know two things for sure. One is that Trump
did nothing wrong when it comes to Epstein. We know
that to one hundred percent certainty because if he had
we know it already, right who controlled the Epstein files,
right the Biden administration. So yeah, we know that Trump
(29:34):
did not do anything wrong when it came to Epstein.
But his name probably does appear in the files in
another context, such as when he told banned Epstein from
mar A Lago because I think it was somebody in
the spot said Epstein was acting inappropriate at least. So yes,
uh Musk is protected because Trump is mentioned, but mentioned
in a positive way. Is the way I believe all
(29:56):
that's going to play out. Glad you're here. Three or
three seOne, three, eight, two, five five the number A
text or dan George Clooney is wrong. Little Marco can
deliver the message, so can J. D. Carolyn Love it
as well. And what we're talking about is George Clooney,
who's wrong about virtually everything, maybe right about this when
he says trump Ism will not last past the end
(30:19):
of this term. I think this is a grave danger
of enormous magnitude to the GOP everywhere in America because
so many of these voters in twenty twenty four, just
like sixteen, right, but twenty twenty four, so many of
these voters were not Republican voters. They're Trump voters. We've
been talking about it since election Day, and there is
(30:42):
a grave danger that the GOP is not going to
be able to hold on to enough of those to
win the really close races, so that GOP has the
opportunity now to win those voters over. But to assume
they've won them over is way, way, way wrong. To
assume they've won them over just because they voted Republican
(31:03):
in the last election. No, so many were just voting
for Trump. And we've seen examples of that, right since
twenty sixteen, we've seen win a bull Senate race is lost,
you know, because the candidates, you know, we're try to
imitate Trump, et cetera. And that's that the voters wanted
that from Trump. But there's only one Trump, Yes, So
(31:26):
it's going to be very interesting to watch this, and
I hope the GOP takes advantage of the gift Trump
gave them, you know, the wins, the opportunity these years
to convince the voters to stay with them when the
president enters that last two years of his term and
then when he's gone. Now, because of that opportunity and
(31:47):
because of what the texture alludes to, and we've talked
about a lot, right the enormous talent on the GOP bench.
In terms of the White House, I think there is
a tremendous opportunity to hold on to the White House
because look at I mean, you've got jd You've got
Marco Rubio, You've got other really talented people. The GOP
(32:08):
is stacked. You look at the Democrats. I mean, Ryan,
could you think of a single Democrat now other than
I think Josh Shapiro's really talented to His problem is
he's part of a party who's big money folks in
leadership has become kind of anti Semitic. So that's a
problem for their most talented guy, Governor Shapiro Pennsylvania. But
(32:29):
beyond that, where's the talent on the Democrats side the GOP?
Speaker 2 (32:33):
It's overflowing. Dan, That's where I think George Clooney is
exactly wrong. I mean, he has no knowledge, awareness, interest,
or even curiosity about what's going on on our side
of the ledger. He sees these other people and I
would add Ronda Santas to that list the textas provided
these are heavyweights in terms of the arena of idea
and another one that would be formidable. But there are
(32:54):
no Democrats that are reasonable rational. I mean John Fetterman,
but he'll never get nominated for larger office in the
Democratic Party, and Josh Shapiro can't because he's Jewish and
it's an anti Semitic party.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Now, yeah, and that's that's the problem they have right now.
Is anybody good they will eat right, they'll kill him.
They'll kill them in the crib. So that's that's the
problem they have. But yes, but I think there's a
separation between the White House and the rest of these
races around the country in terms of will the Trump
voters show up for GOP and that's where it gets
(33:25):
more dangerous. But on the White House level, and listen, Clooney,
he's like I say, he's wrong about virtually everything, but
but I think it is literally true that that to
a certain extent, he calls it trump Ism, right, it's
it's make America great again. To a certain extent, there
will be leakage when President Trump is done, no matter
(33:47):
how good the candidate is. But I just think that
that these conservative principles work. Donald Trump's been able to
prove that. And it's not always purely conservative principles for him,
but the conservative principles work. He's done tremendously with that
America benefits from it, which makes it more likely then
(34:07):
whether it's a JD. Vance or Marco Rubio or Ron
De Santis or somebody else that they'll never be exactly
like Trump. They're never going to have that same appeal.
There's only one man ever who would have that appeal,
and that's Donald Trump. But they are in a position
to take advantage of much of the base but then
build on it with their own appeal.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Trump is a unique phenomenon and it cannot be underestimated.
That's why the Democrats lost to him twice is they
underestimated him. You cannot do that, and you can't take
him for granted. The energy that he generated, dan the rallies,
I've never seen anything like in American politics. So you
have Jdvance, you have Marco Rubio, you have Ron De Santis,
you have many others that can articulate the message, and logically,
(34:47):
left brain might do a better job of that than
Trump even but the visceral emotional response that Trump in
generated and people who never voted before to hold onto
those voters is going to be a challenge.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
It is, I believe for purposes of the White House.
The GOP is going to meet that challenge because of
the enormous talent and how bad the Democrats are. When
we start getting down to the state level, they really
close races. That's where it gets scary for the GOP.
And you've still got to keep your a game, you know,
because even though the Democrats don't have any national talent,
(35:19):
when you get down to individual state races and you
start talking about popular Democrats within the state, maybe they're
the lieutenant governor this or that, that's where you start
getting into a different dynamics. So when we come back,
lots to do in the next hour. Tremendous US Supreme
Court decision today great for the entire country. We'll get
into that. We'll touch on the bolder horror and the
(35:40):
active recruitment of illegal immigrants to Colorado by Polists and
the Democrats when they know some of those people are
going to be rapist, murders and even
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