DC - HOUR TWO - 12-22

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
That's all right.

Speaker 2 (00:00):
The more Christmas carols we play, maybe it'll start feeling
like Christmas. It's so hard when it's this warm. I
grew up in Chicago and then I've been here for
many decades, and yeah, we've never had it that I
can remember this warm right around Christmas. So fighting real
hard to make it feel like Christmas now, no matter
what the weather is. And it's looking at seventy at
least in the Front Range metro area on Christmas Day. Hey, well,

(00:23):
once Christmas Eve hits and we're going off to Christmas
Eve Mass and we're doing those traditions, and yet it's
going to feel fully like Christmas.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
It could be one.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Hundred degrees, but leading up to it, Yeah, it sneaks
up on you when it's like this. So three oh
three someone three eight, two five five the number text
d An five seven, seven through nine. Thank you to
Jesse Thomas for doing the show with me today, Ryan
a well deserved week off with family. We're talking about
a few different things. One is we're talking about something

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none of us have ever seen before. The governor of
Colorado going to war with the President of the United States,
and the governor will to have all of this economic
harm done to the people of Colorado. So the governor
can keep a seventy year old, non violent, defending woman
in prison, How does that make any sense? So we

(01:13):
continue to talk about that. Now, Tina Peters, I believe
she committed a crime crimes and was rightfully charged and convicted.
But the whole idea that Polus would insist on keeping
her in prison and she's been there. How long is
it now, Jesse, I think it's fourteen ish months or so.
She's been in prison prison quite a while for a
crime that listen it, you can't have that crime committed

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and it should have been charged and should have been convicted.
But it's a victimless crime. It's a nonviolent crime. And
the same Jared Polis who he has set himself up
as governor as the gatekeeper of who stays in jail
and who doesn't. You know, he has set this precedent
of overriding the courts. He set it in the mass
killing Trucker case. He set the precedent of overriding the courts.

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So if he's going to do it there, what conceivable
justification is there to not do it here? With this
seventy year old nonviolent woman three h three seven one
three eight two five five. So, but as we've talked
about with Polis for years, I always enjoyed him during
our interviews in air. We got along well, We could
have a frank exchange, et cetera, and it was always

(02:18):
professional and respectful. And then he stopped coming on during COVID.
And the reason he stopped coming on during COVID was
he knew that I would ask him the good questions,
more importantly, the good follow up questions that I always do,
and he didn't have good answers. So that's why he
stopped coming on during COVID. And then at that point

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obviously kind of showing his true colors. And then we
end up in this situation where we've seen from him
what we saw from him during COVID and we've seen
in so many other ways. Is I don't think we've
ever had a governor with less empathy for other people.
Maybe that's a product of living in the money bubble.

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Though he was blessed with great parents, hard working parents
who built a great business from scratch, Maybe it's the
money bubble that did it to him. Maybe it's something
else but how about a little empathy for other people.
I'm not even talking about empathy for Tina Peters, which
he should have. He somehow mustered up the empathy for
a mass killing trucker who decided to get back in

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a truck where he knew the brakes weren't working, decided
not to take a runaway truck ramp when he had
lost his breaks and was going ninety miles an hour,
decided not to put it in a ditch, but instead
steer left into the back of stopped rush hour traffic
in Denver, burning to death. For people. He mustered up
a lot of empathy for that guy, but not for
Tina Peters. I'm not saying empathy for her actions the

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actions were wrong, but empathy for a seventy year old,
first time offending gold star mom who committed a victimless
crime sitting in a prison cell. But if you're not
going to have a empathy for her, how about some
empathy for all of the Colorados now who are being

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hurt because of Polis's war with Trump. I mean we're
talking about and listen, I'm not saying the president's actions
are correct here, I'm just talking about the reality President
Trump wants her out. He has a good, very good
argument for her to be out based upon the standard
Polis himself set. So at that point, the only reason

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for Polis to keep her in jail is to double
middle finger Trump. So at that point, nobody in the
right mind expects Trump to back off. Let's look at
a few of the things we've seen recently. Trump administration
at this point saying they're going to break up National
Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder, and that's a pretty

(04:53):
big deal. Trump administration, Coloradossan does some really good work.
They've got this story. Idled Wiser heard slam Trump's denial
of disaster declaration funding for Colorado fire and flood recovery.
In this story documents how Trump administration is now denying
that emergency disaster funding, which it should not deny. It

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should permit the funding clearly in the article refers to it.
The only reason that this funding is not going forward
is because Polis insists on keeping Tina Peters in jail.
This funding should go through. I think the President is
wrong to deny it, but Polis is very wrong to

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insist on continuing this fight with the pre president when
under Polis's own criteria. He should be letting Tina Peters
out after what fourteen months in jail. He doesn't have
to pardonerr just let her out of jail. And if
you think I'm wrong on that, we'll make you the
first call three O three seven one three A two
five five of the number Jesse. Who do we have again, Mike, Mike, Michael,

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you're on the Dan Kapla Show.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
Welcome, Hey, Thanks Dan, Merry Christmas you too.

Speaker 4 (06:09):
Hey.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
You know, it sounds like Paulus didn't make a mistake
with this this truck driver. I don't. I don't know
what the reasoning was behind it. I think I read
something about problems with the minimum sentencing policy or something
like that. But any case, let's let's just assume he
did make a mistake in reducing that guy's sentence. Does

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that mean he should just reduce everyone's sentence?

Speaker 2 (06:36):
Yes, I mean you're no, not everyone, not everyone's Mike,
you asked a very good question. But but here's why,
Tina Peters, Mike, and let me offer a brief bit
of history for those who may be new to the
area and not familiar with it. Rahala Aguilera Monderos burned
alive for people after a series of decisions to drive

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a truck through the mountains he new did not have
working breaks, and he was sentenced under mandatory minimums to
one hundred and ten years. And you're correct, Mike. At
that point, everybody involved in the process, from the DA
herself to the victims' families, at least most of them
agreed those mandatory minimums were too severe, and so at

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that point the judge agreed to have a hearing to
reconsider the sentence. And as you'll hear in this story
that I'm going to play in a couple of minutes,
the victims, it appears most were lining up behind a
twenty five to thirty year sentence, and that hearing was
about to happen when Polis, after talking with Kim Kardashian,

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who was leading the charge for the mass killing trucker,
Polis decided to take it away from the DA, take
it away from the judge, and Polis arbitrarily imposed a
ten year sentence for burning alive for people and committing
lots of other carnage and to just impose this random

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ten year sentence, which would allow the killer trucker to
be out in five. So that's the backdrop. And then
you ask Mike this very good and fair question, does
that mean then he should reduce every sentence? And I
spoke too quick when I said yes. What I mean
to say is he should reduce every sentence where it's justified,
because he has now set himself up to be the gatekeeper.

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He has set this precedent of taking sentencing away from
judges and the governor, now making these sentencing determinations. Now,
in my mind, he can't even begin to remotely justify
the very meager sentence he gave to the mass killing trucker,
and nor can he begin to justify under his own

(08:44):
standards keeping Tina Peters in jail. But yeah, if he's
going to do it for one, what justification is there
for not doing it for all?

Speaker 3 (08:56):
What do you think?

Speaker 2 (08:57):
I mean, what do you think you've thought about it?

Speaker 3 (08:58):
Obviously? So yeah, I mean I guess my thinking on
it is, you know, just because you make a mistake
doesn't mean you should continue to make the same mistake.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
He's never admitted that was a mistake. He brags about it.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
Yeah, it sounds like he screwed up to me.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Yeah, No, I'm with him. I'm with you there, Mike,
but hey, grateful for the call. I've got to hit
this mandatory break. No, Polus isn't. If Polus just came
out and said, listen, I really messed up there, I
apologize to the victims. I apologize to the court. I
never should have done that. I got star struck with
Kim Kardashian. You know, people respect honesty.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
Jesse.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
You were probably where were you raised? What part of
the country right here? Okay, I'm a native, so you
were probably raised the same way I was, the same
way most people listening was, which from moment I can remember,
I was told, listen, you mess up, you admit it
and learn from it and don't do it again, and
everything's going to be better, right. I mean, that's the

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way we're all raised.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
If you're lucky, that's the way you're That's a great point.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
We were very lucky to have parents who raised us
that way. So if Polus had just done that, then
we got a whole different landscape. But he didn't do it.
He is proud of it. He does brag about it,
so it is the new standard. Mike gussed a very
good question, or should he just do it for everybody.
How could he justify not doing it for everybody when

(10:22):
he did it for the killer trucker. You're on the.

Speaker 5 (10:25):
Families of the four loss of lives machados.

Speaker 6 (10:31):
When Judge Bruce Jones sentenced Rojell Aguilera Maderos to one
hundred and ten years for the I seventy chain reaction
crash that killed four, he made it clear he did
not like the sentence, but said the legislature took away
his discretion with minimum mandatory laws. Even prosecutors thought one
hundred and ten years ri terconian and agreed to a
recensing hearing for January thirteenth. But this time it was

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Governor Polus who took away the judge's discretion, announcing Thursday afternoon,
as fires raged across Boulder County, that he was commuting
the sentence to ten years. As a result, Judge Jones
had no choice but to vacate the resentencing hearing, writing
in a court order yesterday, the Court respects the authority
of the Governor to do so based on the timing

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of this decision. However, it appears this respect is not mutual.

Speaker 5 (11:17):
That's a pretty bold statement for judge to make.

Speaker 6 (11:19):
Dwayne Bailey lost his brother Bill Bailey in the I
seventy inferno.

Speaker 5 (11:23):
Surprised, honestly, because for a judge to make a comment
like that on the record is pretty rare. That's a
big statement by him stating that he would just displease
with the governor as much as we were.

Speaker 6 (11:33):
Bailey and others said the governor should have let the
legal system play out and wait just two weeks for
the resentencing hearing.

Speaker 5 (11:39):
He wouldn't tell us in his own words why he
couldn't wait two weeks.

Speaker 6 (11:42):
Instead, Bailey says the governor would only repeat words on
paper together from his written decision reducing the sentence to
ten years.

Speaker 5 (11:49):
He said he I don't want want to restore faith
in the judicial system. In our view, he didn't show
any faith in the judicial system because Hattie had faith
in that he would let the system play.

Speaker 6 (11:59):
Out, a sentiment shared by District Attorney Alexis King, who
in his statement said, we are disappointed in the governor's
decision to act prematurely. I joined the surviving victims and
families of those who lost their loved ones in their
wish to have the trial judge determined inappropriate sentence in
this case, as he heard the facts and evidence of
the defendant's destructive conduct. The DA would not comment on

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the judge's jab that made it known she would have
sought a sentence of twenty to thirty years.

Speaker 5 (12:26):
I would have liked at least twenty years. And I
also said that time that I just certainly did not
want him to spend the rest of his life in jail.

Speaker 6 (12:32):
Dwayne Mail says if the governor didn't like the judge's sentence,
then he still could have commuted it. But he says
the governor was wrong enough to wait and wrong to
announce his decision during arguably the biggest news event of
the year, the Boulder County Fires. He's convinced the governor
did it on purpose to avoid bad press Roblo Fox
thirty one.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
Yeah, think about that. Think about what a massive obstruction
of justice that is by police, not the prosecutable kind,
not the criminal kind. But this precedent, we talked about
it at the time, this horrific precedent. He sat of
taking it away from the judge, taking it away from
the process, and arbitrarily inserting himself. And why couldn't he

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wait The two weeks. Well, we all know the answer,
because Kim Kardashian wanted it done now. She wanted it
done then. It shouldn't have been done at all what
he did, but she wanted it done then, and Poulus
knew if he waited the two weeks until after the
judge had the resentencing hearing and resentenced to something more
reasonable like twenty to thirty years, well at that point

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there's no way Polis could have stepped in and reduced.
Polis had to reduce while the sentence was still one
hundred and ten years. So think about that, the way
that he deeply and gravely insulted the victims and the
survivors and set this incredibly dangerous precedent for Colorado, all
to please Kim Kardashian.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
Which brings us, of course, to this moment, which is
Tina Peters, who's been in jail over a year now.
I think she was rightfully charged and convicted. I think
she did commit that crime. But under Polus's own standard,
there's no way she should continue to remain in jail.
Yet he's willing to go to war with the President
of the United States who wants her released at this point,

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and Poulis is willing to have Colorado suffer all of
this harm so he can keep Tina Peters in jail.
Why And I'll give you a little context on how
much harm Colorado's suffering because of this. And I go
back to this Colorado Sun story and got a texture
who says and you can text us da N five

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seven seven thirty nine. Texter says, Dan, really the Sun
leans heavily left and maybe read Rocky Mountain Voice. Hey,
I'm a big fan of Rocky Mountain Voice, and I
push it very hard on the show. I think Kittie
Gannall is doing tremendous work there. But there are a
lot of outfits that lean left and still occasionally do
some really good journalism. And so what am I going

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to do? Not read those not get those facts that
are available when they do report straight up? No, No,
I'm not afraid of people with the lefty ideology. Plus,
I want to know what they're saying, because if you're
going to defeat the leftist ideology, you need to be
able to defeat their best arguments. You need to know

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what they're saying. But Colorado Sound just does some really
good straight up reporting. Sometimes. And this piece, excuse me,
has some really important facts in it, such as this
as it documents Trump administration now denying disaster relief to
Colorado for those fires up in the mountains over the summers,

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in the flooding down south. Here's a quote you're getting
from Wiser as Wiser's talking about how he believes that
these were politically these were motivated by Trump being upset
about the TEENA. Peters sentencing. I'm paraphrasing here so we

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can get through this quicker. But then the Colorado Sun
documents what Colorado has lost so far because of the
fight Polus is having with Trump over Tina Peters. That's
my interpretation of it. But so far you've got Trump
administration saying that it's going to close National Center for

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Atmospheric Research in Boulder, or at least parted out, turning
down another forty million dollars in disaster relief. And then
here's what I wanted to make sure you had on
your radar. The denials are the latest in a stretch
of federal blows to Colorado. Last week, the Trump administration
announced it was canceling a one hundred and nine million

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of previously committed grant funding for environment and transportation projects
across the state. The following day, the administration announced it
would dismantle the National Center for Atmospheric Research, a sixth
decade old facility in Boulder. But here's the point. On
one hundred and nine million, think about all of the
harm that legalized marijuana has brought to Colorado, and all

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of the kids wrecked buy it, and all of the
dead bodies on our roadways, just all the harm in
so many different ways. You know what the big justification
for that is, Oh, we get all the tax revenue. Well,
first of all, I don't care how much tax revenue
you got it, it's not worth the harm being done
to kids in Colorado. But how much tax revenue do
you think there is from legal Lizepot? This one hundred

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and nine million that Colorado has now lost because Polis
insists on keeping Tina Peters in jail, that's half, that's
half of an entire year's tax revenue from dope. But
Polis seems determined. Polis seems determined to let Colorado and

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Roden's suffer as much as extensively as long as Trump
decides that he's going to continue to fight with Polis.
So why does Polis think this is all worth it?
You're on the Dan Kapla show. Have you seen that video?

Speaker 4 (18:21):
I have not.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
This is the first time I think I've ever heard this.
You put me on this so I didn't even know
this existed.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
Yeah, it's on YouTube. They're so good, so good. Thank
you for that, my friend. We'll play the full thing tomorrow. Hey,
a good lead into Darren Walsh doing the work of
angels over at Catholic Charities. He's president in the CEO
and Darren, let me just say this before we get rolling.
For anybody out there, you can be an atheist, you

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can be any religion other than Christian. You can be
a Christian, not a Catholic Christian. Bottom line is you
should be supporting Catholic Charities because literally, this entire Denver
metro area falls apart without Catholic Charities, Northern Colorado falls
apart without Catholic Charities. It is the best bang you

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can get for your buck. And I know that from
the inside. I have the privilege of being a board
member as well. Darren, welcome back to the show. Hey,
I know what I'm getting you for Christmas. It's a
new cell phone. Can you hear me?

Speaker 4 (19:28):
I can hear you really well, Okay.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
Great, I think we may be talking to you on
the face of the moon, my friend. But I appreciate
you being here. I know how busy you are and
appreciate it. If you just give people a quick overview
of what Catholic Charities does, starting with the fact that
nobody has to be Catholic or Christian, or a person
of any kind of faith to get help by Catholic Charities.

(19:52):
But I think that very few of us understand the
full breadth and depth of what Catholic Charities is doing
in Colorado.

Speaker 4 (20:00):
Well, yeah, you're absolutely right, Dan, I mean we don't.
We serve everybody that's in need. I mean our mission
statement is to extend the healing ministry of Jesus Christ
the poor and those in need. And we do it
because we're Catholic. Buts a matter of fact, forty percent
of our workforce is not Catholic, all Christian faith and

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non Christians. I like it so, but they're all aligned
with the mission and each year we serve. We just
came out with our last annual report, one hundred and
sixty six thousand people were just in the last or so. Yeah,
it's a very broad range of services that we provide,

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but it's all wrapped around that the mission of bringing
the healing ministry of Jesus to the poor and those
in need.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
Well, And can you give people just kind of an
overall view of the different type ministries. The reason is,
I'm I'm asking people to consider including Catholic charities in
their end of year giving and from everything I've been
able to see, including on the inside, I doubt there's
a better bang for your buck out there in terms
of actually getting to the people in the greatest need,

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getting into the trenches than this vehicle known as Catholic charity.
So can you touch on a.

Speaker 4 (21:20):
Few of those Yeah, absolutely, And people know it's usually
from one of our ministries, but don't have a full
scope of the big picture. You know. We start with
probably our best known ministry is our shelter system. We
have six shelters across Colorado. It serves about a thousand

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people a night. And I noticed, you know, you play
that advertisement earlier you talked about giving people a hand up,
and that's exactly what we're trying to do. You know,
just here in the Denver metro area. We have five
hundred women in our shelters each night, so as people

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know those shelter systems, those are you know, the Samaritan
Houses around town in Greeley and four Collins and three
in Denver. That's one of our big ministries. The next
one is affordable housing. We actually develop our own affordable housing.
We have thirty four properties. We just recently came online

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with two brand new senior properties, one in Denver and
the All Saints Campus on Federal and another up in
Glenwood Springs called the Benedict thirty four units and they're
both senior properties. Another area we get heavily involved in
this Marisol Women's Services. You know that is out there's

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serving abortion vulnerable women and their young families. It's not
all about having a baby, but it's really hold being
by their side and walking with them on this journey.
And they you know, once they have a baby, they're
usually in our alumni program for five to ten years

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after that as we continue helping them with diapers and
other services and quite quite extensive, and then it kind
of gets into our mental health. Mental health is across
all of our ministries. But Saint Rafe's Counseling is the
largest Catholic counseling ministry in the country, and not only

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were an outpatient clinic. Anybody out there listening to us
can go to Saint Rafael's Counseling if they want to
bring a God into the picture as they're going through
their healing. But we're also in nineteen Catholic schools.

Speaker 7 (23:47):
And providing the to them.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (23:50):
And so then we have early child education where we
have we serve over five hundred students a year. This
is zero to five year olds. Yeah, so why are
we doing that?

Speaker 7 (24:04):
Well?

Speaker 4 (24:04):
Again, in the mission, we're serving the poor and those
and needs. So this is not your early learning center.

Speaker 7 (24:09):
That you're probably used to going to.

Speaker 4 (24:12):
Many of our listeners out there, thirty percent of the
kids that come to our early childhood education centers are
homeless and another ten percent are really challenged foster care situations.
So you have that, and then you have immigration, which
is on everybody's mind, but we're our attorneys and paralegals
and immigration are here for those individuals to have a

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legal path for being here in the country. So there's
been such a lot of.

Speaker 7 (24:44):
Press around immigrations these days and what we're doing.

Speaker 4 (24:48):
But our team works very hard and these are people
that it's a very complex system that we have set
up in the immigration space, and I tell you it's
a lot of We do a lot of help, attention,
helping people navigate. You know, some people, you know, English
is not their first language, and everyone thinks that the
coming from Latin America in South America. A lot of
people from all over the world come to the United

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States and try to make a living here and a
home here.

Speaker 7 (25:13):
And said, we're helping everybody in that space.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
So at Darren Walsh, our guest president and CEO of
Catholic Charities of Denver. And one of the reasons I
want to if Darren on is not just because, as
I mentioned, I think this is the most effective way
I can imagine and know of to actually help those
people who really need the help most and get the
most out of each of your hard earned dollars that

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you decide to give to charity. But there's such a
big in my view, you know, public impact here because Darren,
you mentioned one hundred and sixty six thousand people you helped,
and from what I've been able to see a whole
lot of those people if Catholic Charities of Denver was
not there to help them through the generous donors and
it maybe a five dollars, maybe a five million dollar contribution.

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If Catholic Charities wasn't there to step in and tend
to their very real world needs right now, feeding them,
clothing them, housing them, then a whole lot of that
is going to fall back on the taxpayer.

Speaker 4 (26:13):
Well, that's absolutely true, and you know we do partner
with a lot of different agencies, but I'll tell you
the state of Colorado and the cities and counties that
we work in are so appreciative of what we're doing
and we're grateful for that.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
Well, because you guys are going to be a whole
lot more effective with any taxpayer dollars that you're employing.
You're going to be a whole lot more effective than
a government would be. And as you were talking about earlier,
when you can step in, you can give that help,
you can break the cycle, you can prevent it from
getting worse than all of the sudden. You know that

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the humanity, that the human good that's being done, But
on top of that, the benefit of society to society
of stopping this problem, this condition, this need from getting
worse and spiraling into something much more expensive. It is
such a win win for Colorado. I truly don't know
how Denver and Northern Colorado would make.

Speaker 4 (27:15):
It without it. Yeah. You know, one of the great
things about Capucceri's is ninety cents of every dollar goes
towards serving those.

Speaker 7 (27:25):
In our mission, and that we don't have a lot
of fat here.

Speaker 4 (27:31):
It's all directed towards serving the poor.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
Yeah, and you can tell that, you know, I've had
the privilege of being in a few of these board meetings,
and you can tell that this is a lean machine
that's squeezing the most out of every dollar. And my
final thought for today is one of the great insights
I've had from this brief time I've been on the
board is just the dedication of the people that you

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have in these different jobs. I mean, these are not
people who are going to work in these different Catholic
charities ministries to get rich. You know that there may
be pay in certain positions, but virtually everybody could be
making a lot more on the outside. They've got a
deeper commitment there, and I think it shows in the
work they do.

Speaker 7 (28:15):
Yeah, you know, our five hundred eighty employees, the one
thing that you'll see.

Speaker 4 (28:19):
Is consistent with them is their alignment to the mission.
And that's so important.

Speaker 7 (28:25):
I know, I was in the second of the world before.

Speaker 4 (28:26):
One of the hardest things to do in running an
organization is having people that are truly aligned to the
mission of the agency.

Speaker 7 (28:34):
So we're grateful for that. And we not only do
we have five hundred.

Speaker 4 (28:37):
Eighty employees, we have twenty two hundred volunteers and they
donate upwards of fifty eight thousand hours a year, which
is amazing.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
How can people help If they've got the ability to
do some end of the year giving out, can they help?

Speaker 4 (28:52):
Well, it can go on to our website at Ccdenver
dot org and there's a lot of giving options for
all of our ministries that people may have a very
specific area that their heart kind of tugs on, so
I think that's the best place to start. There's a

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donut page there. There's also volunteer opportunities as well for
people that just want to have a personal experience. You know,
it certainly knows in need.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
Yeah, and those are wonderful. It's been my wife's experience
at Little Flower at the food Bank. They do such
amazing work there. It's been so so very powerful. But Darren,
appreciate your time today, my friend. Keep up the great work.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
Thank you, Dan.

Speaker 4 (29:40):
I really appreciated hearing David Bewie and bank Rusty Christmas song.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
We're going to do more of that. We're going to
do more of that. Thank you, my friend.

Speaker 4 (29:50):
Thank you, God blessed and you two.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
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the thirty first, if you find it in your heart
and have the ability to give some money to Catholic charities,
our law firm will match your contribution up to a
total of one hundred thousand dollars, that is through December
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c Aplis Matt who does.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
This version, Nat King cole Oka.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
Jesse Thomas helping us out today. Thank you Jesse. What
are you doing for Christmas?

Speaker 1 (30:24):
I will be going to my sister's up there in
the Hilltop neighborhood and we're just going to lay low
and we usually do a fondue and seafood type of deal,
non traditional but it's kind of our tradition. And uh,
that's about it.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
How about you seafood and fund.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Yeah, so she does this cheese fondue, which is spectacular,
and then we do some beefondue as well, and then
we always have King krab legs and some from cocktail
and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
Yeah, and that's just a family tradition going back forever.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
Forever as long as I can remember. Do we do
traditional stuff on Christmas Day? But Christmas Eve is a
little different.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
Yeah, I wonder, I wonder what percentage of folks open
present and it's on Christmas Eve.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
Well, our deal was we got one, we opened the
majority of them on Christmas Day, but us kids were
able to pick out one that we wanted to open
on Christmas Eve.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
I always felt bad for the kids who just opened
them all on Christmas Eve. I never understood that tradition.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
Yeah, because, yeah, totally. And well, I guess the idea
is maybe then Santa comes over night.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
I don't know, but yeah, yeah, right, because yeah, to me,
I mean, obviously all kids open their Santa presence on
Christmas Day, but the family presence. I've never understood the
idea of opening Christmas Eve but at least those kids
have the Santa presence on Christmas morning because for us
just the excitement still the excitement of waiting for Santa,

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but then also knowing all our family presents are there too,
so we exchange. Amy started this tradition, I think the
first year of our marriage when she saw what I
usually wore at night, but started this tradition of like
special pajamas for Christmas. So that's that's our Christmas Eve thing.
But then yeah, then we wait for Santa and it's

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it's still tough getting the kids to sleep, you know,
because he's not going to come when the kids are
still awake. And then we yeah, then it's still cool.
I mean the kids are now twenty four and twenty
seven and we still pajamas morning. They'll wait and then
you know, will videotape is they run down the stairs
to see what Santa brought. But it is going to

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be a little different with it being seventy degrees out.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
It's wild. I told you earlier. I asked my sister
if I could come in short shorts and flip flops,
and she politely told me not to.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
But yeah, that well I could see, you know, just
the whole mood thing. But it's going to be so
strange on Christmas to say, hey, do you want to
go to the range and hit some balls? Yeah, yeah,
it's a while, yeah it is, it is, but just
being together. So we'll play Are you with me again?

Speaker 4 (32:55):
Tomorrow?

Speaker 1 (32:56):
I'll be here.

Speaker 4 (32:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
Thanks, So that we'll just you know, we'll play a
whole bunch of those Christmas carols. Just try to get
totally in the zone and let's do replay. Let's play
the whole thing of that. You know, David Bowie Bing
Crosby got it. Yeah, Little Drummer Boy, which is such
a great song to begin with. And I love hearing
anything by Bing Crosby because you know, my dad I
was a golf caddy and the members sent me to

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college through the Evans Scholarship. My dad was a golf
caddy before me. He would even caddy on weekends when
he was working for Chicago Police Department. But his favorite
caddy story was he was in a foursome with Bing
Crosby and Crosby was huge. Oh yeah, Caddy said, mister Crosby,
don't give me a tip. My mom's your biggest fan.
Please come to our apartment and say hello to my mom.

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Bing Crosby said, I've got all these commitments that night,
knock on the door at dinner time, Bing Crosby up
on her apartment on the South Side of Chicago.

Speaker 4 (33:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
Just what a cool guy, Jesse. Thanks for y'all man,
appreciate it. I'll catch you again tomorrow. Thanks for being
with us today and please join us tomorrow on The
Dan Kapla Show.