Deborah Flora is helping lead the charge against HB25-1312 'Legal Protections for Transgender Individuals' on behalf of parents and common sense Coloradans, she joins Dan to discuss.
John Fabbricatore, former ICE field director delivers his inside perspective on what led to the successful DEA-led raid in Colorado Springs over the weekend.
John Fabbricatore, former ICE field director delivers his inside perspective on what led to the successful DEA-led raid in Colorado Springs over the weekend.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Dan Caples and welcome to today's online podcast
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single day on your favorite podcast platform. Has been pretty
darn well is when Donald J. Trump marking one hundred
days is first hundred days in office? Talking about obviously
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what grade you would give, let's say scale a one
to ten. Where would you rank the president if I
was to do letter grades, you know, for these first
one hundred days eight plus The only reason I'm not
going a plus plus is I do think you should
have done an Oval office address before launching, you know,
the the terrrif effort. I think just sitting America down
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and explaining, hey, this is what we've got to do.
You know, here's what it's going to look like, here's
why it's going to hurt short term, etc. Would have
been a nice edition. So that would have got an
A plus plus. But I think we've got to go
straight a plus, and I will explain that for the skeptics.
We'll open up the phone line. All of our friends
can join us here. Three h three someone three eight
two five five text D A N five seven seven
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three nine, and of course always welcome by text. I'll
do my best to get him on as soon as possible.
Of course, Early Texter today, what does the early Texter
want to talk about? Of course he wants to talk
about President Trump today, saying that he would like to
be pope. So the first text of the day is
Dan Trump for Pope twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Pope, I'd like to be Pope. That would be my
number one choice. No, I don't know, I have no preference.
I must say, we have a cardinal that happens to
be out of a place called New York. Is very good,
so we'll see what happened.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
It's uh yeah, And President looks good and red right,
he's always wearing the red ties, wearing it right now
in Michigan as he celebrates the first one hundred days
in office. And really, could you, realistically, given the fact
we're on planet Earth, could anybody have a more successful
first hundred days? Hey, I'm trying to remember a president
in American history who had a more successful first one
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hundred days. So I would love your take on that,
because listen that the measure The test isn't whether everything's
gone perfectly right, though an awful lot has. I mean
that the measure has got to be the magnitude and
importance of what has gone undeniably extraordinarily well. And that is,
you know, the primary reason he was elected right, which
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was to close that southern border, to protect America from
all the awful things that was happening to America because
of the open southern border. Which is no reflection on
people who live south of the southern border. It's simply
a reflection on the fact that nations all over the
world were pouring some of their worst hardened criminals exhibit
ATDA into the US. China was using the open border
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to launch a chemical weapons attack on this nation through fentanyl,
and and the Democrats from Michael Bennett and John hicken
Looper and Polis and Johnston and Biden and all of
them on down were cheering it on because they see
all these people, you know, the good people along with
the worst of the worst his future voters. So this
nation was being battered by a wide open southern border.
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And what do we hear from Michael Bennett, what do
we hear from John Hickenlooper, and Mike Johnston. No, we
need new legislation the president's brought. You know, Trump's blocking
the legislation that would allow us to control the border.
So what happens Trump comes in and he locks that
border down in the first hundred days. To me, that
makes it the most successful first hundred days of any
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president that I can recall, let's say, in modern American history, right,
because I don't share Ryan's affinity for like researching Woodrow
Wilson and all that, but let's say modern American presidential history.
I'd love to hear from anybody who thinks there's been
a president who's had a more successful first one hundred days.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
So well, the think back to Dan.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
It was a very difficult first one hundred days for
Ronald Reagan, and you look at the mess he inherited
at the hands of Jimmy Carter and his policies. There
was some short term pain and there were people that
were turning against him. I think it also cost him
in the midterm elections of nineteen eighty two. But we
know that the economy came back roaring for most of
the eighties, and a lot of that was credit to
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Ronald Reagan.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Yeah, and listen, we know that every president is just
the nature of the job in humanity. Every president is
is going to have some challenges, is going to have
some rough patches. But the big question is does he
do something enormously important that overshadows all that, right, And
with Trump, you have that, And I absolutely believe the
American people get it. And when I see the polls,
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the left is pumping out right now, and I include
Fox News at that because they're not from the left,
but they're Polster leans that way, I just come back
and say, these are the same people who told you
he was going to lose the race. So yeah, I
think America gets it and appreciates it. But above all,
above all, far more important than the politics of the day.
Polling will become more important obviously as we get closer
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to midterms, but above all, what is the reality. The
reality is this is an accomplishment of epic, historic proportions
that benefits America in a very tangible way. Each and
every day. There are parents. There are parents who have
their children with them today rather than burying them because
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Donald Trump close the border. There are women who have
not been raped because Donald Trump closed the border. There
are people who have not been killed on the roadways
because Donald Trump closed the border. There are communities whose
hospitals and other infrastructure are much healthier now and getting
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healthier by the day because Donald Trump closed the border.
This is a historically massive accomplishment. Now, I submit to
you there's another piece of this. It's not as obvious
and not as important, but it is still really important.
And that is what Trump has done for candidates out
there are going to run in the mid term and
are skilled enough to use it. What Trump has done
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is hand a very important, a very important political weapon
to just expose everybody on the left. And it applies
to Michael Bennett, it applies to all of them who said, no,
the border can't be closed without more legislation, and that
just proved it to be a total lie. So yeah,
to me, a plus. It would be a plus plus
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if he'd done that Oval Office address before the tariff thing.
But his tariff play is going to work out. It's
just a matter of degree, and that's all going to
end well, and it's going to end well long enough
before the midterms that, you know, barring other unforeseen should
go into the midterms very strong. So I want to
get your take. Three are three someone three eight two
five five text d A N five seven seven three
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nine What grade do you give? And this there have
been a president. He has been a president who's had
a you know, and who's sitting there counting the one
hundred day thing, right, but had a more successful start
to the presidency than President Trump has had. So love
you're taking that, And then a lot of the ground
we want to cover. We're going to have the pleasure
of our friend Deborah Flora with us in the next segment.
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Always enjoy visiting with Deborah and she does a great
job when she sits in on this show as well.
And I want to talk about the latest on House
Built thirteen twelve. Remember we've spent a ton of time
on this. This is this insidious measure. This insidious measure
designed to silence parents who want to step up and
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say to their son, No, you really are my son,
you really are a boy. Don't believe what somebody's putting
in your head that you're really a girl. All of
a sudden, you're going to lose that child right the way,
They're going to tilt the playing field and custody all
of a sudden, they're going to be equating you with
child abusers if you speak the truth to your child.
So this is one of the most dishonest, insidious things
we've ever seen from the left in Colorado, which is
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saying a lot and so what. We've had a lot
of guests on on it, and Deborah Flora will join
us in a couple of minutes to talk about the
latest on HB thirteen twelve and so much more. Because
there's a lot to chat with Deborah about always other
things I want to get into with you today, and
this is not by way of limitation, So if there's
something else on your mind, let me know. Though, Ryan,
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I'm guessing we have at least one person out there
who doesn't want any discussion of sports. This came in
right after the start of the show, Dan, So are
you going to discuss something other than sports? If so,
I will continue to listen or I will switch back
to Kowa. Have we discussed any sports today?
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Not today, but I think they're referring to yesterday with
the Sanders commentary.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Yeah, yeah, I wish that person would call the show.
I'd like to get a deeper understanding of your concerns. There.
You know what, my theory is no offense to our
text or if I'm wrong. My theory is this is
one of the many people who were wrong about Tim
Tebow and they still can't accept the fact that I
was absolutely right about Tebow and was proven right. But
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in any case, text are glad you're here. No, hey,
we don't have any sports plan for today, but I'm
not going to sit here and artificially limit ourselves. You know,
we talk about anything that's interesting. And by the way,
you see the Rockies worst start in one hundred and
forty nine year National League history. But again, the only
way to go is up, so silver lining there and
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does so much more. We want to get into Columbus day.
By the way, is back thanks to the President. What
do you think about that? Three or three? Someone? Three eight,
two five five Deborah Flora next on The Dame Kapla Show.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
And now back to the Dan Kapla Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Well, that's an absolutely beautiful bump there, Ryan, but it
knocked out the sound I.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
Was going to play.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Well, it is the official intro song of our next guest.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Well, and it should be for Deborah Flora. But here's
the dilemma. Deborah, I was about to play a cut
from Michelle Obama, and so if I had played that
cut over that Bump music, people would have gotten the
wrong idea.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
Yes, yes, well I do prefer that song thank You Ryan,
over a Michelle Obama introduction. I don't think she would
have been referring to me directly, but.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
No, let me play that song. Let me tell you
what she was going to say, which I think is
fascinating to me. And I don't know that we will
have the advocates to protect everybody, and that makes me.
That frightens me. It keeps me up at night. So
it's keeping her up at night that they won't be
able to stop the mass deportations. And I'm just sitting
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here thinking, how could that be when her husband deported
more people than I think any other president, right didn't
need to port like three million people.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
Oh, he certainly did, And then you know it turned
by it and turned around and flew with many of
them back in in the middle of the night. So
we've got some hole back and forth happening here.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
That's there is no doubt doubt it. But Deborah is
here to talk with us about this insidious thirteen twelve
that we spent so much time on this show this.
How would you sum it up, Debbah the way I
sum it up as it's another effort by the left
to censor. In this case, parents, if you want to
tell your son he's really a boy and not a girl,
well I'll expect to lose custody of him and be
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equated with a child abuser. Yep.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
One percent. Thanks so much for covering it so much, Dan,
Yet this is definitely what the situation is. Thirteen twelve
would actually define misgendering as child abuse or coercive control,
meaning the state can come in and take a child
away from their parents if it passes, just because they
refuse to transition or call their child by a different
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name or pronoun. And it's not hyperbole. This is already
happening in other states where a bill like this has
been passed. In fact, again, there's one heart wrenching story
in California of a Hispanic single mom who lost custody
of her daughter because she would not transition her or
call her by a different name or pronoun and later
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that daughter, out of her custody, committed suicide. You know,
we can't let this happen here.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
We just can't. So they're going to take your kids
away now because you love them and because you speak
the truth to them, So you have to lie to
keep your kids. I mean, and it all starts, I mean,
this arewelling and think. I mean, it all starts with
the idea that they call misgendering. They call it misgendering
when you call her child EI their accurate, scientifically accurate gender.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
That's exactly right. I love afraid that Riley Gaines says,
which is biology is not big a tree. It's also
not child abuse. There are laws in place if a
child is being mistreated in their home, and my goodness,
I'm the first to say, get that child into a
safer place. That's not what we're talking about here. And
that's why this coming Thursday evening May first, we're going
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to be having a town hall. I'm on the National
board of Moms Through Liberty and we're having a town
hall this Thursday evening May pers, seven pm at the
Big Center in Aurora so everyone can make their voices heard.
And we've invited people from the Islamic community, the Catholic community,
those who are not of a faith community, as well
as evangelicals. We've invited the Hispanic community, African immigrant community,
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because this issue is not partisan. It is simply protecting
that which is the building block of Western civilization, which
is the family and parents who know their children better
than any other nameless, faithless bureaucracy.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Well, and it's also protecting freedom. And I agree with you,
everything starts with the kids, right, that's a sacred trust
and obligation. But it's also protecting freedom because you see
this in so many different ways where where the left
right now is passing this legislation to criminalize disagreement, right,
whether it's telling a counselor that, Okay, you're going to jail,
you're going to lose your license, and you're going to
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go to jail if you tell this child that they're
really a boy and not a girl, and that they
really can become who they are a boy again. And
so stripping of our freedom by criminalizing our ideas and
our free speech, that that's an existential threat of its own.
Can you imagine what do you think the landscape looks
like right now? Dever Flora Guest. If Kamala Harris had won.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
Oh my goodness, well, this would have already happen, because
it'd probably be happening on a central level. And that's
the situation that would be so deeply troubling. And it's
Bill thirteen twelve. You've said it very well, Dan. Not
only does it take away parental rights and criminalize parents
and potentially have them lose custody, this also is for
any business owner if they missgender or dead name someone,
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that is a ground for a lawsuit because I'd be
considered discrimination. And so we're looking at the opposite of
what happened the Supreme Court with the Laurie Smith case,
which was saying that the government cannot coerce you to
say something you don't believe. This should be frying to everyone,
even if they agree with the transgender ideology. Even then
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the next time, who else in the government has that
kind of power the moment the government can tell you
what you have to think, what you have to say,
we are losing the most basic liberties. And then, as
you said, the building block of all of this is
the family, which is why we did the documentary Who's
Children Are They? Because the children don't belong to the state,
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the state should not have the right to take them
away just for parents raising them according.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
To their values well, right, but obviously under the left
that the state is working every day to take them away,
even if they stay under your roof, right. I mean,
they're working to take them away by inserting the state
between you and the child, using the schools to indoctrinate,
so many other ways. But to me, that's one reason
why Trump getting this second term, you know, was so
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completely landscape shift. And I don't know about you, and
this gets subjective, but I really sense this great reawakening
in America since that November four where people now feel like,
wait a second, they can't speak the truth again, they
can stand up and say this is insane, this is crazy, etc.
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It's like the society's got its voice back.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
Yeah, it's so true. I mean, an amount of self
censoring that goes on in our culture is stunning, and
I do think that's changing. One of the most heartening things.
By the way, I'm a mom of two gen Zers.
I guess they are. They're twenty and twenty one. That
generation in particular is beginning to wake up because they
went through the COVID shutdown. They've seen the failure of
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all of these extreme work policies and they're becoming more
conservative and that is such a bright spot. And Dan,
I know you and I both share our faith. They're
actually also becoming a much more faith filled generation because
they've seen the me They've seen the absolute moral equivalency
and the mixing of words and the removing of everything
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that what used to be a mooring of truth. So
it's an exciting time in that way. But we've got
to fight here in Colorado, and so that's why we
invite people to join us this Thursday, May first, for
our town hall against thirteen twelve.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Yeah, this looks like a really cool event, a lot
of great guests and absolutely free. What websites social site
should people go to for this?
Speaker 5 (17:31):
Absolutely?
Speaker 6 (17:32):
And I want to make a point of.
Speaker 5 (17:33):
Saying this is being organized by Monster Liberty, but we're
going to have so many other great coalition partners there, Seapan, PKC.
We'll have Alliance Defending Freedom on a panel, Heritage Foundation.
This is where we bring everyone together. You do need
to register, even though tickets are free, just so we
know how many folks we have coming. You can go
to Moms for Liberty dot org, forward slash town Hall,
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or you can go to my Twitter page, my expeed
at Deborah Flora one. That's at Deborah Flora the number
one and you will see all of those things there.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Hey, do you have a couple of more minutes to
talk about some other stuff that's going on? Okay, do
you look forward to it? Thank you, Dev take care
of Deborah Flora on the Dan Capla Show.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Glad, John Fabricatory is here perfect guy to talk about this?
A big raid in Colorado Springs, drug indie, legal immigration
getting a lot of national attention. John, Welcome back to
the Dan Capla Show.
Speaker 6 (18:37):
Hey, Dan, how you doing well.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
I'm living the dream, my friend, and very happy to
see what happened in the Springs for a lot of reasons,
but glad to see that the crackdown on I assume
a lot of this was about fentanyl and about folks
coming in illegally carrying fentanyl, et cetera. But what do
you know, because you're always in the know on this stuff,
what do you know about this raid and what's your
take on it?
Speaker 6 (18:59):
Well, you know it was it was definitely months in
the making, so you know, we are learning that there
were you know, close to two hundred calls of service
to that location, so nine one one calls that were
received for situations that were occurring there, assaults, drug trafficking, uh,
you know, possible prostitution. So you know, obviously, you know,
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law enforcement had an idea of what was going on
there and then and then it just took you know,
them having surveillance on it, building up their probable cause
to get the search warrant, which we were able to
see in some of the videos that were released by
the DA. And what we saw was a professional operation,
a lot of cooperation between multiple federal jurisdictions. You know,
we saw everyone from the Postal inspector you know, the
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way to and ATF Yeah. So, I mean it was
it was, you know, great cooperation. It was a safe,
you know operation, no one, no one was hurt, but
a lot of people were taken into custody. And you know,
Colorado Springs today is definitely safer because of what happened
this weekend.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Now, I'd love to see that. John frebri coatory our guests. Now, John,
I read something where there were three hundred, three hundred
law enforcement officers involved in the raid. Does that sound right?
Speaker 6 (20:14):
Yeah? You know, then when you have a situation like
like this where you have you know, possibly you know,
around two hundred people that you're going to arrest, you
want to bring you know, maximum amount of forces that
you can muster up. And that's why you saw people
from you know a lot of different federal agencies. So
you know that call would have would have gone out.
Do you know different federal agencies that have arrest authority,
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they would have you know asked, you know, their their
their agents, you know, if they'd like to take part
in this raid. And you know, got the number up
to three hundred, because if you're arresting two hundred people,
that's about.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
The number that you need to make.
Speaker 6 (20:49):
To make those arrests, you're going to have to have
overwatch and you know you're gonna have to have your
entry team, your arrest teams, your processing teams, your transportation teams.
So that's a that's a massive amount of people move around.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Oh yeah, you know you're gonna have runners, right, I mean,
just some of the video that's I mean, that's not easy.
But but do you know whether there was any state involvement,
state law enforcement or was it pure state law enforcement
involvement as well, or was it a pure federal operation?
Speaker 6 (21:18):
You know, there was there was local police departments involved there,
you know, Dougas County stuff. I did not hear that
Colorad's State Patrol or any of the state organizations were involved.
As far as I know, that would be No. It
looked like it was just county local and then cederal.
And it looked like, you're the basic task forces that
are already in place were the ones that were taking
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taking part in it, right?
Speaker 1 (21:40):
And one of the reasons I asked about state limitlessen
CSPs the best those guys are awesome, but I just
don't trust the elected Democrats in Colorado. So one of
the things so impressive to me about this is no leaks.
I mean, you had three hundred three hundred people involved
and who knows how many other staffers on the law
enforcement side, and no leaks. I mean that's really impressive.
Speaker 6 (22:02):
Yeah, And you know kind of what you're getting to there, Dan,
is you know, possibly that means be why we did
not see state involvement because that would have had to
go up the chain of command and you know, probably
would have fallen into you know, our Governor's lab right,
and you know, we know not to you know, say
that he's the most leaking anything, but you know, as
you can help with this being a sanctuary state and
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his support of sanctuary policy, you know that he probably
is not the best person to let know that you
are potentially going after a bunch of criminal Unigo alliance now.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
And you know, one of the things I really love.
It ties into first hundred days of Trump, right, One
of the things I really love is the competence, Like
even on that leaked signal chat, you know, regarding the
you know attack and the hooties, what you could see
and yeah, would have been better to have more secure
communications for sure, but what you could see was just
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a high level of competence in how they were carrying
out that, right, the same thing in the Springs. They
were able to pull all that together, have three hundred
plus people involved on the good guy's side and nothing leaked.
To me, that just shows and the rage itself shows
just very very high level of competence in organization. And
lord knows we need that.
Speaker 6 (23:13):
Oh, I agree with you, Dan, it was a very
high level of competence. But it's the vigor of it too.
You know, the men and women of the DoD, of
the military, of our federal law enforcement agencies, and even
down to our counties are just ready to do the
job now. After four years of being suppressed and not
being able to enforce the laws thoroughly, they're getting out there.
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They're showing us exactly what they can do when they're
allowed to enforce the law. And what we saw this
week this weekend was was exactly what could happen with
the competency level, them being able to make that level
of arrest without you know, any safety concerns and again
making our community safer.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Yeah, it's kind of the coiled spring effect, right as
you just explained, all these good people, and you know,
you've got a lot of really great people in law
enforcement across party lines, but you got all these great people,
you know, who've just been waiting for the opportunity to
be unleashed to do their thing and do it the
right way. And finally they got it with Trump getting
this second term. I mean, I can't even imagine what
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law enforcement had to feel like. Remember back during the
takeover of downtown Denver and the attacks on the Capitol
when Jared Polis went into hiding. What that had to
feel like. Because I remember my dad thirty years Chicago cop.
I remember him, I was a young boy, but during
the sixty eight convention and everything else, and I can't
even imagine what it would have been like for him
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going out into these really dangerous situations if the governor
went into hiding as Polist did.
Speaker 6 (24:40):
Yeah, and you know, Dan, I was still working at
that time. I was actually the field office director for
ICE oh wow, you know, for all of Colorado and
n Wyoming. And I can tell you that that my
morale was down. It's part of the reason why I retired.
I just I just could I could no longer take
you know, what was coming down from the administration and
and you know, give that those orders to my men
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and women when I didn't believe in those in those
orders and I didn't believe I was doing the job
that I was, you know, being.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Paid to do.
Speaker 6 (25:08):
So you know, it's it's a lot of good men
and women left, you know, during the Biden administration, just
because they just if they had the opportunity to retire.
A lot of people did just just because they just
couldn't do the job as they were being told to
do it.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Yeah, and again I think back to my dad, how
impossible it would have been to do the job if
you knew that people in power did not have your back.
I mean, as a cop on exactly south side of Chicago,
he knew the people in power at his back. But here,
I think guys like you and gals who are out
there doing law enforcement, most places controlled by Democrats, they
have to feel like they would make you a human
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sacrifice in a heartbeat and throw your behind in jail
if they thought he'd get them another vote somewhere.
Speaker 6 (25:50):
Unfortunately, then you're you're entirely correct that that is a
feeling that is out there, you know.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
I mean, you know, I've you know, I've been you.
Speaker 6 (25:57):
Know, following you for many many years on the radio
and many things you've done in your career, you know.
But I've been here since nineteen ninety eight, and you know,
both of us know that. You know, Colorado has changed
a lot. It's changed a lot, you know, just you
know how people feel about enforcing the law. You know
how we you know, go out there and keep our
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communities safe. And it's it's not the same Colorado it
was when when I moved here in nineteen ninety eight.
I definitely believe that.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Yeah. And do you think, John, we've got another sixty seconds.
Do you think Colorado can be turned around? Do you
think the GOP can win statewide consistently again or has
this ship just sailed? Dan?
Speaker 6 (26:39):
I want to believe that we can make a difference
and we can get Colorado back. I love this state.
I mean, like I said, even though I'm a transplant
from nineteen ninety eight, this is where I want to be.
I raised two kids here. I want to see it change.
I think it's going to take a lot of hard work.
We need to get down into the trenches. We need
to make it happen. But it's also going to take
a population change. We had a lot of liberals move
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here here in the last few years, a lot of
conservatives leave. So you know, we need to bump bump
those numbers back up, get conservatives to move back to
Colorado knowing that we're going to fight for Colorado and
make it read again.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Well. And I agree with all that, and I would
add one thing and get a lot of liberals or
left leaning voters to grow out of it or to switch.
And I know that's a tough slog. But when you
start to do the math and you know this better
than I do, it wouldn't take that many if you
can actually get them to switch. And I do believe
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as people get older and they start to have kids
and they start to live life, and as they start
to make seventy five thousand or more or more, people
become conservative. But John, you're awesome man. Appreciate you being
on the show.
Speaker 6 (27:47):
Thanks, Dan, I'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Take care of that is John Fabgatory And yeah, doing
a lot of great work out there. Three or three
someone three eight two five five text d A N
five seven seven three nine. You're on the Dankplish.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
And now back to the Dan Kapla Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Thanks to John Fabricatory joined us in the last segment,
Deborah Flora before that. And it's just a reminder there
is just so much great talent on the conservative side
in Colorado doing so much good work in the meantime. Right,
It's not like all this talent sitting around saying, oh,
if we don't win the governor's office, or we don't
win the Senate, or we don't win this or that,
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then we're just gonna stay home on the couch. No,
people are out there getting a lot of stuff done.
I mean stuff that matters in the trenches each and
every day. So it reminds me Ryan of the pro
life movement, because the pro life movement never ever quit,
and it looked like an impossible long shot, right, and
then never ever quit and just fought all those years,
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like the really gritty in the trenches hard work not
just flapp and jaws, and the hard work it took
to say babies outside clinics, and the hard work it
took to just give moms support so they'd have their children,
and the hard work it took to win elections so
you get enough people elected that you can actually confirm,
you know, Supreme Court justices who are then going to
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actually interpret the loss. So they never quit. And I
think the same thing's happening in Colorado. And we've seen it.
Now how many years has it been now that obviously
all the years you've been with us, you know where
with Democrats have got a stranglehold on things, right, but
you just never see you just never see the really
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talented grassroots conservatives quit. So that's what gives me real
hope that this thing can be turned around. Here, not
saying it's going to be easy, but real hope that
it can be. But it's going to take right. It's
kind of takes some major screw ups by the left,
and they're cooperating. Yep, they're cooperating in grand fashion, you know,
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with the highlight obviously being Michael Bennett, the presumptive nominee.
At this point, though, that sounds like the understatement of
the millennium. I mean, truly, has Phil Wiser been seen?
No since Bennett descended from his throne and declared that
he was going to be the nominee and by the way,
also the US Senator, and then he would decide who
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would take his seat. Has has Wiser been seen since then?
Not much? Yeah, So Democrats are doing their part to
help put Republicans back in power. Throw out three someone
three eight two five five text d an five seven
seven three nine Trump's first hundred days. Can we drop
in there. I give him an A plus, tempted to
give him an a plus plus. Okay, let's go. He's
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live now in Michigan.
Speaker 7 (30:39):
I've imposed twenty five percent tariffs and foreign aluminum and steel.
It's keeping our steel mills going.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
I did that.
Speaker 7 (30:46):
If I didn't do that with steel in the first
my first term, we wouldn't have a steel mill in
the United States right now. And everybody knows that I
did it for washing machines too. By the way, that's
why I asked the people at Whirlpool they were going
to close. They were in deep trouble. I did it
because they were dumping machines. I did a fifty percent tariff.
Who's going to raise it to one hundred percent? They
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didn't even have to bother They became a tremendously successful
company overnight.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
They were ready to close.
Speaker 7 (31:12):
They came to me with tears in their eyes in
my office early on first term. And we're doing it
now at levels never seen before, and the results are
going to be even better, even better, because we've been abused.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
By friend and foe, and in.
Speaker 7 (31:27):
Many cases Friend has abused us more so than Foe
on trade. So I want to just let you know
you're going to be very proud of this country very soon.
And with my China tariffs were ending the greatest job
theft in the history of the world. China's taken more
jobs from us than any country has ever taken from
another country. And that doesn't mean we're not going to
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get along.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
We'll get along with China.
Speaker 7 (31:49):
I mean that tariff now is at one hundred and
forty five percent, So essentially I said, that's a big
difference between that and zero.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
I think it's going to work out.
Speaker 7 (32:01):
They want to make a deal, and they're gonna We're
going to make a deal, but it's going to be
a fair deal.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
It's not going to be a.
Speaker 7 (32:06):
Deal that we lose a trillion dollars a year like
they did with Biden. That this guy was so bad,
he was so bad under Biden. And remember this, we're
losing five billion dollars a day on trade, and now
we're making money. We're actually making money instead of do
you know what five billion? Think of that, Mike five.
(32:27):
How many pillars do you have to make to lose
five billion dollars?
Speaker 2 (32:32):
I can make them for a thousand years.
Speaker 7 (32:35):
So we were losing five billion dollars a year and
now we've got it. We're talking money, and that the
tariffs haven't even really kicked in the percent cars have.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
But you know what that means.
Speaker 7 (32:44):
That means that you're going to make the cars we
don't need the cars from outside. When they say, oh, sir,
we want to send you a lot of cars, I said,
we really don't want your cars. We really don't want
We want to make our own cars. That includes Canada,
That includes Mexico, who have taken tremendous, tremendous amount of
our business. Canada's taken off a tremendous like ten twelve percent.
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Mexico is thirty two percent. They took thirty two percent
of our car production.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
We don't want them to have that. We want that.
Why are we giving it to them?
Speaker 7 (33:13):
Why are we subsidizing Canada two hundred billion dollars a year.
Why are we subsidizing Mexico for three hundred billion dollars
a year. There's no reason for it. I'm proud to
be the president for the workers and not the outsources,
the president who stands up for Main Street, not Wall Street.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
You know, I like Wall Street.
Speaker 7 (33:32):
I like Wall Street. I have a gorgeous, beautiful building
on Wall Street forty Wall Street. Anybody you want a
little space, I'll get you some space real quickly. Now
I've got one of the most beautiful buildings in the
world on Wall Street. But I still like Main Street
because you're main Street. I want Main Street over Wall Street.
And we want to protect the middle class, not the
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political class.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
That's all. I haven't done this very long.
Speaker 7 (33:57):
We want to protect protect our people. You know this
is the greatest when you think about this. Look here,
we it's not even like elections. After the election, and
you have.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Crowds like this, and I'd have them.
Speaker 7 (34:10):
We're going to do the commencement at University of Alabama.
And they just called and they said, is going to
be the biggest crowd we've ever had for We've never
had a crowd like this. And I'm doing it at
West Point And they called and said the same thing.
We love west Point, we love University of Alabama, we
love Alabama.
Speaker 5 (34:29):
You know what.
Speaker 7 (34:29):
I want Alabama by like almost fifty points. So when
they called it and say would you like to do
the commencement, I said, okay, I'll do it. But they're
gonna have the biggest crowd.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
They ever had by maybe four or five times.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
We'llcome back after news. Right if the president's still going
in Michigan and policies, trillions of talking about the first
hundred days, and I do give him straight up, literally
in a plus and it could be a higher grade.
And it's because of the massive accomplishment at the border,
and he's done much more than that that there isn't
enough credit being given to right now now, but the
massive accomplishment at the border that Michael Bennett said, oh no,
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you can't do without more legislation, he has proven a liar.
You're on the Dan Caplis Show.
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darn well is when Donald J. Trump marking one hundred
days is first hundred days in office? Talking about obviously
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what grade you would give, let's say scale a one
to ten. Where would you rank the president if I
was to do letter grades, you know, for these first
one hundred days eight plus The only reason I'm not
going a plus plus is I do think you should
have done an Oval office address before launching, you know,
the the terrrif effort. I think just sitting America down
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and explaining, hey, this is what we've got to do.
You know, here's what it's going to look like, here's
why it's going to hurt short term, etc. Would have
been a nice edition. So that would have got an
A plus plus. But I think we've got to go
straight a plus, and I will explain that for the skeptics.
We'll open up the phone line. All of our friends
can join us here. Three h three someone three eight
two five five text D A N five seven seven
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three nine, and of course always welcome by text. I'll
do my best to get him on as soon as possible.
Of course, Early Texter today, what does the early Texter
want to talk about? Of course he wants to talk
about President Trump today, saying that he would like to
be pope. So the first text of the day is
Dan Trump for Pope twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Pope, I'd like to be Pope. That would be my
number one choice. No, I don't know, I have no preference.
I must say, we have a cardinal that happens to
be out of a place called New York. Is very good,
so we'll see what happened.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
It's uh yeah, And President looks good and red right,
he's always wearing the red ties, wearing it right now
in Michigan as he celebrates the first one hundred days
in office. And really, could you, realistically, given the fact
we're on planet Earth, could anybody have a more successful
first hundred days? Hey, I'm trying to remember a president
in American history who had a more successful first one
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hundred days. So I would love your take on that,
because listen that the measure The test isn't whether everything's
gone perfectly right, though an awful lot has. I mean
that the measure has got to be the magnitude and
importance of what has gone undeniably extraordinarily well. And that is,
you know, the primary reason he was elected right, which
(02:32):
was to close that southern border, to protect America from
all the awful things that was happening to America because
of the open southern border. Which is no reflection on
people who live south of the southern border. It's simply
a reflection on the fact that nations all over the
world were pouring some of their worst hardened criminals exhibit
ATDA into the US. China was using the open border
(02:55):
to launch a chemical weapons attack on this nation through fentanyl,
and and the Democrats from Michael Bennett and John hicken
Looper and Polis and Johnston and Biden and all of
them on down were cheering it on because they see
all these people, you know, the good people along with
the worst of the worst his future voters. So this
nation was being battered by a wide open southern border.
(03:18):
And what do we hear from Michael Bennett, what do
we hear from John Hickenlooper, and Mike Johnston. No, we
need new legislation the president's brought. You know, Trump's blocking
the legislation that would allow us to control the border.
So what happens Trump comes in and he locks that
border down in the first hundred days. To me, that
makes it the most successful first hundred days of any
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president that I can recall, let's say, in modern American history, right,
because I don't share Ryan's affinity for like researching Woodrow
Wilson and all that, but let's say modern American presidential history.
I'd love to hear from anybody who thinks there's been
a president who's had a more successful first one hundred days.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
So well, the think back to Dan.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
It was a very difficult first one hundred days for
Ronald Reagan, and you look at the mess he inherited
at the hands of Jimmy Carter and his policies. There
was some short term pain and there were people that
were turning against him. I think it also cost him
in the midterm elections of nineteen eighty two. But we
know that the economy came back roaring for most of
the eighties, and a lot of that was credit to
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Ronald Reagan.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Yeah, and listen, we know that every president is just
the nature of the job in humanity. Every president is
is going to have some challenges, is going to have
some rough patches. But the big question is does he
do something enormously important that overshadows all that, right, And
with Trump, you have that, And I absolutely believe the
American people get it. And when I see the polls,
(04:42):
the left is pumping out right now, and I include
Fox News at that because they're not from the left,
but they're Polster leans that way, I just come back
and say, these are the same people who told you
he was going to lose the race. So yeah, I
think America gets it and appreciates it. But above all,
above all, far more important than the politics of the day.
Polling will become more important obviously as we get closer
(05:04):
to midterms, but above all, what is the reality. The
reality is this is an accomplishment of epic, historic proportions
that benefits America in a very tangible way. Each and
every day. There are parents. There are parents who have
their children with them today rather than burying them because
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Donald Trump close the border. There are women who have
not been raped because Donald Trump closed the border. There
are people who have not been killed on the roadways
because Donald Trump closed the border. There are communities whose
hospitals and other infrastructure are much healthier now and getting
(05:50):
healthier by the day because Donald Trump closed the border.
This is a historically massive accomplishment. Now, I submit to
you there's another piece of this. It's not as obvious
and not as important, but it is still really important.
And that is what Trump has done for candidates out
there are going to run in the mid term and
are skilled enough to use it. What Trump has done
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is hand a very important, a very important political weapon
to just expose everybody on the left. And it applies
to Michael Bennett, it applies to all of them who said, no,
the border can't be closed without more legislation, and that
just proved it to be a total lie. So yeah,
to me, a plus. It would be a plus plus
(06:33):
if he'd done that Oval Office address before the tariff thing.
But his tariff play is going to work out. It's
just a matter of degree, and that's all going to
end well, and it's going to end well long enough
before the midterms that, you know, barring other unforeseen should
go into the midterms very strong. So I want to
get your take. Three are three someone three eight two
five five text d A N five seven seven three
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nine What grade do you give? And this there have
been a president. He has been a president who's had
a you know, and who's sitting there counting the one
hundred day thing, right, but had a more successful start
to the presidency than President Trump has had. So love
you're taking that, And then a lot of the ground
we want to cover. We're going to have the pleasure
of our friend Deborah Flora with us in the next segment.
(07:18):
Always enjoy visiting with Deborah and she does a great
job when she sits in on this show as well.
And I want to talk about the latest on House
Built thirteen twelve. Remember we've spent a ton of time
on this. This is this insidious measure. This insidious measure
designed to silence parents who want to step up and
(07:38):
say to their son, No, you really are my son,
you really are a boy. Don't believe what somebody's putting
in your head that you're really a girl. All of
a sudden, you're going to lose that child right the way,
They're going to tilt the playing field and custody all
of a sudden, they're going to be equating you with
child abusers if you speak the truth to your child.
So this is one of the most dishonest, insidious things
we've ever seen from the left in Colorado, which is
(08:00):
saying a lot and so what. We've had a lot
of guests on on it, and Deborah Flora will join
us in a couple of minutes to talk about the
latest on HB thirteen twelve and so much more. Because
there's a lot to chat with Deborah about always other
things I want to get into with you today, and
this is not by way of limitation, So if there's
something else on your mind, let me know. Though, Ryan,
(08:22):
I'm guessing we have at least one person out there
who doesn't want any discussion of sports. This came in
right after the start of the show, Dan, So are
you going to discuss something other than sports? If so,
I will continue to listen or I will switch back
to Kowa. Have we discussed any sports today?
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Not today, but I think they're referring to yesterday with
the Sanders commentary.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Yeah, yeah, I wish that person would call the show.
I'd like to get a deeper understanding of your concerns. There.
You know what, my theory is no offense to our
text or if I'm wrong. My theory is this is
one of the many people who were wrong about Tim
Tebow and they still can't accept the fact that I
was absolutely right about Tebow and was proven right. But
(09:06):
in any case, text are glad you're here. No, hey,
we don't have any sports plan for today, but I'm
not going to sit here and artificially limit ourselves. You know,
we talk about anything that's interesting. And by the way,
you see the Rockies worst start in one hundred and
forty nine year National League history. But again, the only
way to go is up, so silver lining there and
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does so much more. We want to get into Columbus day.
By the way, is back thanks to the President. What
do you think about that? Three or three? Someone? Three eight,
two five five Deborah Flora next on The Dame Kapla Show.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
And now back to the Dan Kapla Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Well, that's an absolutely beautiful bump there, Ryan, but it
knocked out the sound I.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
Was going to play.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Well, it is the official intro song of our next guest.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Well, and it should be for Deborah Flora. But here's
the dilemma. Deborah, I was about to play a cut
from Michelle Obama, and so if I had played that
cut over that Bump music, people would have gotten the
wrong idea.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
Yes, yes, well I do prefer that song thank You Ryan,
over a Michelle Obama introduction. I don't think she would
have been referring to me directly, but.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
No, let me play that song. Let me tell you
what she was going to say, which I think is
fascinating to me. And I don't know that we will
have the advocates to protect everybody, and that makes me.
That frightens me. It keeps me up at night. So
it's keeping her up at night that they won't be
able to stop the mass deportations. And I'm just sitting
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here thinking, how could that be when her husband deported
more people than I think any other president, right didn't
need to port like three million people.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
Oh, he certainly did, And then you know it turned
by it and turned around and flew with many of
them back in in the middle of the night. So
we've got some hole back and forth happening here.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
That's there is no doubt doubt it. But Deborah is
here to talk with us about this insidious thirteen twelve
that we spent so much time on this show this.
How would you sum it up, Debbah the way I
sum it up as it's another effort by the left
to censor. In this case, parents, if you want to
tell your son he's really a boy and not a girl,
well I'll expect to lose custody of him and be
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equated with a child abuser. Yep.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
One percent. Thanks so much for covering it so much, Dan,
Yet this is definitely what the situation is. Thirteen twelve
would actually define misgendering as child abuse or coercive control,
meaning the state can come in and take a child
away from their parents if it passes, just because they
refuse to transition or call their child by a different
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name or pronoun. And it's not hyperbole. This is already
happening in other states where a bill like this has
been passed. In fact, again, there's one heart wrenching story
in California of a Hispanic single mom who lost custody
of her daughter because she would not transition her or
call her by a different name or pronoun and later
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that daughter, out of her custody, committed suicide. You know,
we can't let this happen here.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
We just can't. So they're going to take your kids
away now because you love them and because you speak
the truth to them, So you have to lie to
keep your kids. I mean, and it all starts, I mean,
this arewelling and think. I mean, it all starts with
the idea that they call misgendering. They call it misgendering
when you call her child EI their accurate, scientifically accurate gender.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
That's exactly right. I love afraid that Riley Gaines says,
which is biology is not big a tree. It's also
not child abuse. There are laws in place if a
child is being mistreated in their home, and my goodness,
I'm the first to say, get that child into a
safer place. That's not what we're talking about here. And
that's why this coming Thursday evening May first, we're going
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to be having a town hall. I'm on the National
board of Moms Through Liberty and we're having a town
hall this Thursday evening May pers, seven pm at the
Big Center in Aurora so everyone can make their voices heard.
And we've invited people from the Islamic community, the Catholic community,
those who are not of a faith community, as well
as evangelicals. We've invited the Hispanic community, African immigrant community,
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because this issue is not partisan. It is simply protecting
that which is the building block of Western civilization, which
is the family and parents who know their children better
than any other nameless, faithless bureaucracy.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Well, and it's also protecting freedom. And I agree with you,
everything starts with the kids, right, that's a sacred trust
and obligation. But it's also protecting freedom because you see
this in so many different ways where where the left
right now is passing this legislation to criminalize disagreement, right,
whether it's telling a counselor that, Okay, you're going to jail,
you're going to lose your license, and you're going to
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go to jail if you tell this child that they're
really a boy and not a girl, and that they
really can become who they are a boy again. And
so stripping of our freedom by criminalizing our ideas and
our free speech, that that's an existential threat of its own.
Can you imagine what do you think the landscape looks
like right now? Dever Flora Guest. If Kamala Harris had won.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
Oh my goodness, well, this would have already happen, because
it'd probably be happening on a central level. And that's
the situation that would be so deeply troubling. And it's
Bill thirteen twelve. You've said it very well, Dan. Not
only does it take away parental rights and criminalize parents
and potentially have them lose custody, this also is for
any business owner if they missgender or dead name someone,
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that is a ground for a lawsuit because I'd be
considered discrimination. And so we're looking at the opposite of
what happened the Supreme Court with the Laurie Smith case,
which was saying that the government cannot coerce you to
say something you don't believe. This should be frying to everyone,
even if they agree with the transgender ideology. Even then
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the next time, who else in the government has that
kind of power the moment the government can tell you
what you have to think, what you have to say,
we are losing the most basic liberties. And then, as
you said, the building block of all of this is
the family, which is why we did the documentary Who's
Children Are They? Because the children don't belong to the state,
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the state should not have the right to take them
away just for parents raising them according.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
To their values well, right, but obviously under the left
that the state is working every day to take them away,
even if they stay under your roof, right. I mean,
they're working to take them away by inserting the state
between you and the child, using the schools to indoctrinate,
so many other ways. But to me, that's one reason
why Trump getting this second term, you know, was so
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completely landscape shift. And I don't know about you, and
this gets subjective, but I really sense this great reawakening
in America since that November four where people now feel like,
wait a second, they can't speak the truth again, they
can stand up and say this is insane, this is crazy, etc.
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It's like the society's got its voice back.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
Yeah, it's so true. I mean, an amount of self
censoring that goes on in our culture is stunning, and
I do think that's changing. One of the most heartening things.
By the way, I'm a mom of two gen Zers.
I guess they are. They're twenty and twenty one. That
generation in particular is beginning to wake up because they
went through the COVID shutdown. They've seen the failure of
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all of these extreme work policies and they're becoming more
conservative and that is such a bright spot. And Dan,
I know you and I both share our faith. They're
actually also becoming a much more faith filled generation because
they've seen the me They've seen the absolute moral equivalency
and the mixing of words and the removing of everything
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that what used to be a mooring of truth. So
it's an exciting time in that way. But we've got
to fight here in Colorado, and so that's why we
invite people to join us this Thursday, May first, for
our town hall against thirteen twelve.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Yeah, this looks like a really cool event, a lot
of great guests and absolutely free. What websites social site
should people go to for this?
Speaker 5 (17:31):
Absolutely?
Speaker 6 (17:32):
And I want to make a point of.
Speaker 5 (17:33):
Saying this is being organized by Monster Liberty, but we're
going to have so many other great coalition partners there, Seapan, PKC.
We'll have Alliance Defending Freedom on a panel, Heritage Foundation.
This is where we bring everyone together. You do need
to register, even though tickets are free, just so we
know how many folks we have coming. You can go
to Moms for Liberty dot org, forward slash town Hall,
(17:57):
or you can go to my Twitter page, my expeed
at Deborah Flora one. That's at Deborah Flora the number
one and you will see all of those things there.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Hey, do you have a couple of more minutes to
talk about some other stuff that's going on? Okay, do
you look forward to it? Thank you, Dev take care
of Deborah Flora on the Dan Capla Show.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Glad, John Fabricatory is here perfect guy to talk about this?
A big raid in Colorado Springs, drug indie, legal immigration
getting a lot of national attention. John, Welcome back to
the Dan Capla Show.
Speaker 6 (18:37):
Hey, Dan, how you doing well.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
I'm living the dream, my friend, and very happy to
see what happened in the Springs for a lot of reasons,
but glad to see that the crackdown on I assume
a lot of this was about fentanyl and about folks
coming in illegally carrying fentanyl, et cetera. But what do
you know, because you're always in the know on this stuff,
what do you know about this raid and what's your
take on it?
Speaker 6 (18:59):
Well, you know it was it was definitely months in
the making, so you know, we are learning that there
were you know, close to two hundred calls of service
to that location, so nine one one calls that were
received for situations that were occurring there, assaults, drug trafficking, uh,
you know, possible prostitution. So you know, obviously, you know,
(19:21):
law enforcement had an idea of what was going on
there and then and then it just took you know,
them having surveillance on it, building up their probable cause
to get the search warrant, which we were able to
see in some of the videos that were released by
the DA. And what we saw was a professional operation,
a lot of cooperation between multiple federal jurisdictions. You know,
we saw everyone from the Postal inspector you know, the
(19:44):
way to and ATF Yeah. So, I mean it was
it was, you know, great cooperation. It was a safe,
you know operation, no one, no one was hurt, but
a lot of people were taken into custody. And you know,
Colorado Springs today is definitely safer because of what happened
this weekend.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Now, I'd love to see that. John frebri coatory our guests. Now, John,
I read something where there were three hundred, three hundred
law enforcement officers involved in the raid. Does that sound right?
Speaker 6 (20:14):
Yeah? You know, then when you have a situation like
like this where you have you know, possibly you know,
around two hundred people that you're going to arrest, you
want to bring you know, maximum amount of forces that
you can muster up. And that's why you saw people
from you know a lot of different federal agencies. So
you know that call would have would have gone out.
Do you know different federal agencies that have arrest authority,
(20:37):
they would have you know asked, you know, their their
their agents, you know, if they'd like to take part
in this raid. And you know, got the number up
to three hundred, because if you're arresting two hundred people,
that's about.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
The number that you need to make.
Speaker 6 (20:49):
To make those arrests, you're going to have to have
overwatch and you know you're gonna have to have your
entry team, your arrest teams, your processing teams, your transportation teams.
So that's a that's a massive amount of people move around.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Oh yeah, you know you're gonna have runners, right, I mean,
just some of the video that's I mean, that's not easy.
But but do you know whether there was any state involvement,
state law enforcement or was it pure state law enforcement
involvement as well, or was it a pure federal operation?
Speaker 6 (21:18):
You know, there was there was local police departments involved there,
you know, Dougas County stuff. I did not hear that
Colorad's State Patrol or any of the state organizations were involved.
As far as I know, that would be No. It
looked like it was just county local and then cederal.
And it looked like, you're the basic task forces that
are already in place were the ones that were taking
(21:39):
taking part in it, right?
Speaker 1 (21:40):
And one of the reasons I asked about state limitlessen
CSPs the best those guys are awesome, but I just
don't trust the elected Democrats in Colorado. So one of
the things so impressive to me about this is no leaks.
I mean, you had three hundred three hundred people involved
and who knows how many other staffers on the law
enforcement side, and no leaks. I mean that's really impressive.
Speaker 6 (22:02):
Yeah, And you know kind of what you're getting to there, Dan,
is you know, possibly that means be why we did
not see state involvement because that would have had to
go up the chain of command and you know, probably
would have fallen into you know, our Governor's lab right,
and you know, we know not to you know, say
that he's the most leaking anything, but you know, as
you can help with this being a sanctuary state and
(22:22):
his support of sanctuary policy, you know that he probably
is not the best person to let know that you
are potentially going after a bunch of criminal Unigo alliance now.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
And you know, one of the things I really love.
It ties into first hundred days of Trump, right, One
of the things I really love is the competence, Like
even on that leaked signal chat, you know, regarding the
you know attack and the hooties, what you could see
and yeah, would have been better to have more secure
communications for sure, but what you could see was just
(22:52):
a high level of competence in how they were carrying
out that, right, the same thing in the Springs. They
were able to pull all that together, have three hundred
plus people involved on the good guy's side and nothing leaked.
To me, that just shows and the rage itself shows
just very very high level of competence in organization. And
lord knows we need that.
Speaker 6 (23:13):
Oh, I agree with you, Dan, it was a very
high level of competence. But it's the vigor of it too.
You know, the men and women of the DoD, of
the military, of our federal law enforcement agencies, and even
down to our counties are just ready to do the
job now. After four years of being suppressed and not
being able to enforce the laws thoroughly, they're getting out there.
(23:33):
They're showing us exactly what they can do when they're
allowed to enforce the law. And what we saw this
week this weekend was was exactly what could happen with
the competency level, them being able to make that level
of arrest without you know, any safety concerns and again
making our community safer.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Yeah, it's kind of the coiled spring effect, right as
you just explained, all these good people, and you know,
you've got a lot of really great people in law
enforcement across party lines, but you got all these great people,
you know, who've just been waiting for the opportunity to
be unleashed to do their thing and do it the
right way. And finally they got it with Trump getting
this second term. I mean, I can't even imagine what
(24:13):
law enforcement had to feel like. Remember back during the
takeover of downtown Denver and the attacks on the Capitol
when Jared Polis went into hiding. What that had to
feel like. Because I remember my dad thirty years Chicago cop.
I remember him, I was a young boy, but during
the sixty eight convention and everything else, and I can't
even imagine what it would have been like for him
(24:33):
going out into these really dangerous situations if the governor
went into hiding as Polist did.
Speaker 6 (24:40):
Yeah, and you know, Dan, I was still working at
that time. I was actually the field office director for
ICE oh wow, you know, for all of Colorado and
n Wyoming. And I can tell you that that my
morale was down. It's part of the reason why I retired.
I just I just could I could no longer take
you know, what was coming down from the administration and
and you know, give that those orders to my men
(25:02):
and women when I didn't believe in those in those
orders and I didn't believe I was doing the job
that I was, you know, being.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Paid to do.
Speaker 6 (25:08):
So you know, it's it's a lot of good men
and women left, you know, during the Biden administration, just
because they just if they had the opportunity to retire.
A lot of people did just just because they just
couldn't do the job as they were being told to
do it.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Yeah, and again I think back to my dad, how
impossible it would have been to do the job if
you knew that people in power did not have your back.
I mean, as a cop on exactly south side of Chicago,
he knew the people in power at his back. But here,
I think guys like you and gals who are out
there doing law enforcement, most places controlled by Democrats, they
have to feel like they would make you a human
(25:42):
sacrifice in a heartbeat and throw your behind in jail
if they thought he'd get them another vote somewhere.
Speaker 6 (25:50):
Unfortunately, then you're you're entirely correct that that is a
feeling that is out there, you know.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
I mean, you know, I've you know, I've been you.
Speaker 6 (25:57):
Know, following you for many many years on the radio
and many things you've done in your career, you know.
But I've been here since nineteen ninety eight, and you know,
both of us know that. You know, Colorado has changed
a lot. It's changed a lot, you know, just you
know how people feel about enforcing the law. You know
how we you know, go out there and keep our
(26:17):
communities safe. And it's it's not the same Colorado it
was when when I moved here in nineteen ninety eight.
I definitely believe that.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Yeah. And do you think, John, we've got another sixty seconds.
Do you think Colorado can be turned around? Do you
think the GOP can win statewide consistently again or has
this ship just sailed? Dan?
Speaker 6 (26:39):
I want to believe that we can make a difference
and we can get Colorado back. I love this state.
I mean, like I said, even though I'm a transplant
from nineteen ninety eight, this is where I want to be.
I raised two kids here. I want to see it change.
I think it's going to take a lot of hard work.
We need to get down into the trenches. We need
to make it happen. But it's also going to take
a population change. We had a lot of liberals move
(26:59):
here here in the last few years, a lot of
conservatives leave. So you know, we need to bump bump
those numbers back up, get conservatives to move back to
Colorado knowing that we're going to fight for Colorado and
make it read again.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Well. And I agree with all that, and I would
add one thing and get a lot of liberals or
left leaning voters to grow out of it or to switch.
And I know that's a tough slog. But when you
start to do the math and you know this better
than I do, it wouldn't take that many if you
can actually get them to switch. And I do believe
(27:33):
as people get older and they start to have kids
and they start to live life, and as they start
to make seventy five thousand or more or more, people
become conservative. But John, you're awesome man. Appreciate you being
on the show.
Speaker 6 (27:47):
Thanks, Dan, I'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Take care of that is John Fabgatory And yeah, doing
a lot of great work out there. Three or three
someone three eight two five five text d A N
five seven seven three nine. You're on the Dankplish.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
And now back to the Dan Kapla Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Thanks to John Fabricatory joined us in the last segment,
Deborah Flora before that. And it's just a reminder there
is just so much great talent on the conservative side
in Colorado doing so much good work in the meantime. Right,
It's not like all this talent sitting around saying, oh,
if we don't win the governor's office, or we don't
win the Senate, or we don't win this or that,
(28:26):
then we're just gonna stay home on the couch. No,
people are out there getting a lot of stuff done.
I mean stuff that matters in the trenches each and
every day. So it reminds me Ryan of the pro
life movement, because the pro life movement never ever quit,
and it looked like an impossible long shot, right, and
then never ever quit and just fought all those years,
(28:49):
like the really gritty in the trenches hard work not
just flapp and jaws, and the hard work it took
to say babies outside clinics, and the hard work it
took to just give moms support so they'd have their children,
and the hard work it took to win elections so
you get enough people elected that you can actually confirm,
you know, Supreme Court justices who are then going to
(29:11):
actually interpret the loss. So they never quit. And I
think the same thing's happening in Colorado. And we've seen it.
Now how many years has it been now that obviously
all the years you've been with us, you know where
with Democrats have got a stranglehold on things, right, but
you just never see you just never see the really
(29:33):
talented grassroots conservatives quit. So that's what gives me real
hope that this thing can be turned around. Here, not
saying it's going to be easy, but real hope that
it can be. But it's going to take right. It's
kind of takes some major screw ups by the left,
and they're cooperating. Yep, they're cooperating in grand fashion, you know,
(29:53):
with the highlight obviously being Michael Bennett, the presumptive nominee.
At this point, though, that sounds like the understatement of
the millennium. I mean, truly, has Phil Wiser been seen?
No since Bennett descended from his throne and declared that
he was going to be the nominee and by the way,
also the US Senator, and then he would decide who
(30:15):
would take his seat. Has has Wiser been seen since then?
Not much? Yeah, So Democrats are doing their part to
help put Republicans back in power. Throw out three someone
three eight two five five text d an five seven
seven three nine Trump's first hundred days. Can we drop
in there. I give him an A plus, tempted to
give him an a plus plus. Okay, let's go. He's
(30:38):
live now in Michigan.
Speaker 7 (30:39):
I've imposed twenty five percent tariffs and foreign aluminum and steel.
It's keeping our steel mills going.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
I did that.
Speaker 7 (30:46):
If I didn't do that with steel in the first
my first term, we wouldn't have a steel mill in
the United States right now. And everybody knows that I
did it for washing machines too. By the way, that's
why I asked the people at Whirlpool they were going
to close. They were in deep trouble. I did it
because they were dumping machines. I did a fifty percent tariff.
Who's going to raise it to one hundred percent? They
(31:06):
didn't even have to bother They became a tremendously successful
company overnight.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
They were ready to close.
Speaker 7 (31:12):
They came to me with tears in their eyes in
my office early on first term. And we're doing it
now at levels never seen before, and the results are
going to be even better, even better, because we've been abused.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
By friend and foe, and in.
Speaker 7 (31:27):
Many cases Friend has abused us more so than Foe
on trade. So I want to just let you know
you're going to be very proud of this country very soon.
And with my China tariffs were ending the greatest job
theft in the history of the world. China's taken more
jobs from us than any country has ever taken from
another country. And that doesn't mean we're not going to
(31:47):
get along.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
We'll get along with China.
Speaker 7 (31:49):
I mean that tariff now is at one hundred and
forty five percent, So essentially I said, that's a big
difference between that and zero.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
I think it's going to work out.
Speaker 7 (32:01):
They want to make a deal, and they're gonna We're
going to make a deal, but it's going to be
a fair deal.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
It's not going to be a.
Speaker 7 (32:06):
Deal that we lose a trillion dollars a year like
they did with Biden. That this guy was so bad,
he was so bad under Biden. And remember this, we're
losing five billion dollars a day on trade, and now
we're making money. We're actually making money instead of do
you know what five billion? Think of that, Mike five.
(32:27):
How many pillars do you have to make to lose
five billion dollars?
Speaker 2 (32:32):
I can make them for a thousand years.
Speaker 7 (32:35):
So we were losing five billion dollars a year and
now we've got it. We're talking money, and that the
tariffs haven't even really kicked in the percent cars have.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
But you know what that means.
Speaker 7 (32:44):
That means that you're going to make the cars we
don't need the cars from outside. When they say, oh, sir,
we want to send you a lot of cars, I said,
we really don't want your cars. We really don't want
We want to make our own cars. That includes Canada,
That includes Mexico, who have taken tremendous, tremendous amount of
our business. Canada's taken off a tremendous like ten twelve percent.
(33:05):
Mexico is thirty two percent. They took thirty two percent
of our car production.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
We don't want them to have that. We want that.
Why are we giving it to them?
Speaker 7 (33:13):
Why are we subsidizing Canada two hundred billion dollars a year.
Why are we subsidizing Mexico for three hundred billion dollars
a year. There's no reason for it. I'm proud to
be the president for the workers and not the outsources,
the president who stands up for Main Street, not Wall Street.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
You know, I like Wall Street.
Speaker 7 (33:32):
I like Wall Street. I have a gorgeous, beautiful building
on Wall Street forty Wall Street. Anybody you want a
little space, I'll get you some space real quickly. Now
I've got one of the most beautiful buildings in the
world on Wall Street. But I still like Main Street
because you're main Street. I want Main Street over Wall Street.
And we want to protect the middle class, not the
(33:53):
political class.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
That's all. I haven't done this very long.
Speaker 7 (33:57):
We want to protect protect our people. You know this
is the greatest when you think about this. Look here,
we it's not even like elections. After the election, and
you have.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Crowds like this, and I'd have them.
Speaker 7 (34:10):
We're going to do the commencement at University of Alabama.
And they just called and they said, is going to
be the biggest crowd we've ever had for We've never
had a crowd like this. And I'm doing it at
West Point And they called and said the same thing.
We love west Point, we love University of Alabama, we
love Alabama.
Speaker 5 (34:29):
You know what.
Speaker 7 (34:29):
I want Alabama by like almost fifty points. So when
they called it and say would you like to do
the commencement, I said, okay, I'll do it. But they're
gonna have the biggest crowd.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
They ever had by maybe four or five times.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
We'llcome back after news. Right if the president's still going
in Michigan and policies, trillions of talking about the first
hundred days, and I do give him straight up, literally
in a plus and it could be a higher grade.
And it's because of the massive accomplishment at the border,
and he's done much more than that that there isn't
enough credit being given to right now now, but the
massive accomplishment at the border that Michael Bennett said, oh no,
(35:04):
you can't do without more legislation, he has proven a liar.
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