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July 10, 2025 34 mins
Dr. Catherine Wheeler returns for another in her series of scientific, medically factual evidence in favor of preserving the lives of the unborn.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Dan Kaplis and welcome to today's online podcast
edition of The Dan Kaplis Show. Please be sure to
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agenda Locally, we're talking about some accusations within the GOP

(00:20):
regarding Representative Weinberg. We'll circle back to that one to
get you taken a few things in particular nationally talking
about Jeffrey Epstein. This cannot be allowed to just die.
America deserves answers, has to be done in a fair
way where the innocent aren't destroyed, but others America.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Needs to know the truth.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
So we're talking as well about this idiotic leftist move
under the guise of their green ideology to now permit
this lane filtering motorcycles driving between cars, which they knew,
of course, would turn into full lane splitting at full speed,
which again shows a lack of respect for human life
and has caused a lot of unnecessary carnage on the

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roadway and anxiety for other drivers. So covering all that,
always a privileged Thursdays at about five oh five to
go to the VIP line. Welcome doctor Catherine Wheeler. And
doctor Wheeler helps us zero in from a medical perspective
on some of the key issues surrounding abortion. And we
talk often, obviously about different policy positions, and I've been

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privileged to play.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
A small role in the right to life movement for years.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
But doctor Whiller brings that medical perspective which is so helpful,
and she has a special credibility because she used to
perform abortions and is now very active in saving lives.
So doctor welcome back to the Dan Kapli Show.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
Thank you Dan for having me back.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
We'll always look forward to it. And today's I think
is highly timely. And that is the issue from a
medical perspective of this argument that, hey, this cutting government
funding now for planned parenthood, says planned parenthood will affect
the safety net of essential women's healthcare. Can you address

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that from a medical perspective.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
Yeah, we talked a little bit about that last week.
The fact that actually they're not providing the majority of healthcare.
They're primarily an abortion industry. And so this what's being
stirred up is this fear of more women are going
to die if we don't have this safety net, which
actually we do have in federally healthcare federally qualified healthcare

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clinics and rural healthcare clinics in Colorado, that's our safety net.
They provide all of the medical care that women need. So,
you know, this fear of women dying, that's really been
the drum beat behind all of the legislation promoting abortion
and the biggest, really the biggest narrative that gets people

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to vote for abortion because nobody wants women to die.
But the truth is it does not increase maternal mortality
to have unrestricted abortion. It actually goes the other direction probably,
And so you know, probably the most important thing for
people to know is that in the United States, we

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actually don't know how many women die from abortion, so
we don't have a comparison at all. And in fact,
abortion deaths are actually in most states, including Colorado, are
rolled into maternity deaths, not separate, so they actually increase
what maternal deaths look like, and we don't know how
many of them are abortions. So we actually have to

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go to countries that have universal health coverage and can
then follow outcomes of women comparing child bearing to abortion,
and so these would be like Finland, Denmark, and what
we know from those countries is that mortality is two
to four times higher if a woman has an abortion.
Then if a woman bears a child, and that goes

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from one hundred and eighty day through the pregnancy and
end of the pregnancy through one hundred and eighty days,
it goes out to twenty five years. So this is
a significant impact. It goes up with every abortion she has.
It increases mortality increases the further along in the pregnancy
she is when she gets to the abortion. So if

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it was true that abortion actually decreases maternal mortality, we
would expect that mortality would have gone up after Dobbs,
but actually it went down twenty percent, which is fascinating.
And when you compare it, you know, if it decreased
mortality with maternal mortality, we'd expect United States to have

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a very low maternal mortality because we have expansive abortion
rights all the way to the do date. But actually
we're significantly higher than every other country that's developed, at
least three times to four times. When it is in Europe.
There's nothing in the literature that says it decreases mortality. Instead,

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it suggests it actually increases mortality to have unrestricted abortion.
I think the last thing I'd say is thank god.
The maternal mortality is actually incredibly rare. So in the
United States, your risk of dying from child bearing is
point zero one point eight percent. So you know, I
can remember with my first pregnancy thinking, oh my gosh,

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I'm going to die because it's all.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
Over the news, right right, right, the two tenths of
one percent.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
Yeah, extremely rare. So you know that's not an excuse
for elective abortion. Every maternal death is an absolute tragedy.
But again, thank god, it's very rare.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
Well, and it just comes back to and you thank
you for documenting it from a medical standpoint, but it
just comes back to the fact that the abortion industry,
really from day one in America, has been based on
a series of lives, right the original live matter, And
I'm just talking medically here, medically disprovable core arguments in
favor of legalized abortion, starting with it's a blob of tissue,

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it's not a living.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
Human exactly, and you know it's hidden in darkness. That's
why they don't want data. So you know, especially like
here in Colorado where it's completely unrestricted. They don't want
us to know what's going on. It's all hidden. There's
no regulation in Colorado. We don't know what happens in
those facilities. There's no safety measures. And then that the

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creation of a procedes need this whole idea that women
have to have an abortion availability in order to participate
fully in society. And what kind of a society is that?
You know, the alternative would be to step in and
provide support if there's not a man stepping up to
the plate. And that used to be our structure within

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our family and our churches and our communities. And wouldn't
it be lovely to go back to that and really
step into helping these women.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
Yeah, just as the argument used to be, oh, wait
a second, we have to have slavery, we have to
treat human life as somebody else's property in order for
those landover owners to be able to fully participate in
the economy. Right, That used to be the argument in
favor of that, which is just as much a lie exactly.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
And you know, an economy is the right way to
think about it, because you look at who is actually
benefiting from abortion, and it's the abortion industry. And it
may be people, including some men, who don't take responsibility.
It includes corporations who say we'll pay for you to
travel for abortion because we save money, but we won't

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provide a safety for you with three months of being
hold with your child. You know, if you follow the money,
you see who's benefiting, and it's not women.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Doctor Catherine Wheeler, our guest in our final minute, Doctor,
and again look forward to Everyday segment at five oh five.
You made the comment earlier nobody wants women to die,
which which reminded me of something that I don't think
people focus on enough, which is the fact that the
Democratic Party now, which is completely chained to abortion on

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demand through labor and delivery, the entire abortion industry, all
those with the financial motive you just mentioned, they do
want women to die. That they literally, they literally build
their political party around policies they know will lead to what,
on average, seven to seven hundred and fifty thousand females

(08:38):
a year being killed in America. And so those who claim, oh,
we're pro women, we're pro abortion, they are deliberately facilitating
and advancing that the killing of seven hundred and fifty
thousand females a year. How's that pro woman?

Speaker 3 (08:57):
You know, I have to think back to being a
physician doing abortions, and I wonder how much in our
political landscape is the same where you truly believe you're
helping women and you don't think about that. Yeah, and
so I don't know that they're intentionally wanting women to die.
It's just they're not thinking through what abortion is. We
talk about it as being choice. We don't talk about

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what an abortion is, which is the intentional taking of
life of a human being. And so as long as
you can call it choice and you'll have no mental image,
you know. I think about Kamala Harris hitting the news
because she went to a planned parenthood facility. Did she
go in the back and watch an abortion? Absolutely not
right now, all respectful when she does that.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
Well, you make such a great point, and it's one
of the reasons I'm so hopeful and certain that that
life is going to win in the end. Is it's
winning and trending right now, and that is you have
so many well intentioned people who support abortion on demand.
When I made my comments, I'm thinking of the elected officials,
political activists, people, the profit side of the industry.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
They know exactly what they're doing.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
But you have a lot of people supporting legalized abortion
with this shallow, well intentioned thinking where they never even
allow themselves to go deeper and think about points like
my last one. And that gives me, you know, just
this eternal hope which I think we see being fulfilled,
that you're going to be able to persuade people to
switch their position on that.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
Well, I do think the lies are finally being exposed.
I mean we're seeing like an explosion of things being
exposed this year from the harms of drug induced abortion,
you know, finding that eleven percent of women are actually
having serious side effects that not even including TATH that
isn't included in that number, and the call that the

(10:46):
FDA is probably going to look at that and actually
deeper research. And you know, we're seeing the parenthood being defunded.
And what we're going to see in the next years
is people are going to be referred to true healthcare facilities,
they're going to get real care. Mortality is not going
to go up, they're going to get better care. So
I think the lives will keep being exposed.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
I'm very thankful for that, well said doctor, and look
forward to next week.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
You take care of that? Is that doctor Catherine Wheeler.
You're on the Dan Capla Show.

Speaker 4 (11:19):
And now back to the Dan Taplass Show podcast.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
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Speaker 5 (11:25):
Yeah, soa staying at Red Rocks not that long, agobout
a month? Really, it's still incredible.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
Yeah, how's the walker working of?

Speaker 4 (11:33):
You know he was holding it together pretty well.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
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Speaker 5 (11:35):
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Speaker 2 (11:41):
But it Yeah, No, I love that.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
I always, yeah, think of my wife when I hear that.

Speaker 4 (11:46):
Yeah, that's fantastic.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
Three or three someone three two five five the number
text d A and five seven seven three nine. Thank
you again to Sheriff Steve Riams and Heidi good All
for filling in while I've been out fighting all the these
legal battles. I happened to be a trial lawyer and
we just had an awful lot of trials going on.
And I just as somebody had asked in a text, Dan,

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why so many trials?

Speaker 2 (12:09):
I love it. I just love it.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
It's a privilege, it's an honor and to be able
to go in there argue a righteous case to a jury.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
That is a real high.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
But going to be with you for probably six solid
weeks here before we start a month long trial on
September second, So looking forward to that time together. Three
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N five seven seven three nine. Here's what we're talking about, though.
If you have something on your mind, fire at will locally. Hey,
we're talking about these allegations against GOP Representative Weinberg, as

(12:43):
he had been vying for a leadership position. And so
we'll cycle back to that at some point, talking about
the Jeffrey Epstein.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
Situation.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
And again I feel it's vital that would not just
be dropped and that America get the truth about anybody
involved in anything nefarious. And then the challenge is protecting
the innocent and all of that right, but it cannot
just be allowed to drop. I think first is a
matter just of justice, but second of confidence in our
justice system. So I threw out some ideas how we

(13:15):
could come up with a fair process, and for me,
it boils down to, hey, let's get two or three
highly respected former law enforcement officials and put those people
in charge of going through all the files and determining
what should be publicly released and what shouldn't be, starting
of course with what can be legally released, and then

(13:35):
going to what would be fair to release, because if
somebody had an otherwise innocent contact with them, like a
business deal, you don't want to destroy that life. If
you've got somebody who's names in there because they were victim,
obviously they need to be protected if they don't want
their name released. And if you have somebody who went
to the darn Island, then I think the assumption should
be that's going to be released. Three or three someone

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three eight two five five. Also talking about this insanity
on our roadways right now, right where we talked about
it at the time. The Left forced this law through
under their green ideology of allowing motorcycles to drive between
lanes of cars. And you experience it probably every day

(14:18):
like I do, or at least every other day, and
it's pure insanity, and it's inflicting all this unnecessary stress
out on the roadway for everybody, unnecessary death and injury.
And I know you get ticked off, like I was
coming back from meeting in the Springs today and I'm
in the express lane coming back up to Denver, and
I get somebody on a bike.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
Cutting between me and the car in.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
The left hand lane of North Found twenty five and
he's got to be going one hundred and ten. And
first you get ticked, right, But then the second thing
you think is that's somebody's son. You know, that's somebody's son,
and that person might be dead two miles away, and
it's just it's tragic, and it's wrong, and it's unfair

(15:05):
to drivers. It's unfair to drivers to be inflicting that
kind of additional danger and stress. And who does it serve?
Because you know, I used to ride before a crash,
and I know we have a lot of professional, responsible
riders in the audience. Who does this really serve? And
I get the lane filtering, true lane filtering. If you're

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stopped at an intersection and you don't want to be
you don't want to be on your bike stuck between
two cars where you might get rear ended and crushed,
so then you just want to filter when it stopped,
you know, those few feet up between the cars up
to the crosswalk. I get that safety maneuver, so then
you're protected from being rear ended. I get it, but

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that's not what we're talking about.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
And the left knew that.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
They knew once they passed this kind of lane quote filtering,
you'd get this full lane splitting we have right now.
So what should we do about that? Yeah, he's here's
a text I don't even understand, so I can't read it.
Here's another one I don't understand, so I can't read it.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
Is this me Ryan?

Speaker 1 (16:16):
Or is this a couple of textures? Maybe it's the
same person. Those last two texts we got, What do
they mean? Well, this one says Dan. The lane splitting
issue has not changed. The crazies have been doing it
for years and will continue to do it. It is
illegal and carries great risk. It is self regulating as
the practitioners die or are disabled. Wait a second, my friend,
the texture it is dramatically increased since the law was

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changed to allow lane filtering, at least where I'm driving,
and I'm driving most places around the state. Ryan, Is
this a figment of my imagination?

Speaker 5 (16:47):
No, and I knew this would happen, and you knew
this would happen, and we talked about it when it
first implemented. That people aren't going to look to, you know,
parse through the fine details of what's what's filtering, what's splitting,
what's the difference.

Speaker 4 (16:57):
You can do this, but you can't do that.

Speaker 5 (16:59):
All I'm seeing are these cross rockets and these bikes
going through, not the hogs, not the Indian motorcycles, right,
not the harlest right. And they're just like you said,
one hundred and ten miles an hour. I see it
all the time.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
Too, yeah, yeah, And it's so interesting. So many of
the cars you see out there right now going over
one hundred weaving in and out of traffic, those are
our cars that probably cost somebody four hundred dollars, right,
And I'm not trying to be a leitist or anything.
I'm I'm just being realistic about a problem we have
going on out there right now because the left's undermining

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law enforcement, doesn't support them, and we have less enforcement.

Speaker 4 (17:38):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
Texter Dan, Yes, all in caps, please reverse the insane
motorcycle lane filtering law. It's crazy enough watching for distracted
drivers wandering in their lanes. Now we could be ambushed
by a motorcycle. This is a danger to the motorcyclist
as well as drivers not paying attention. Thanks for addressing
this crazy law, my pleasure. It's insane and you know,

(18:06):
as a driver myself, listen, it wouldn't matter that it
wouldn't be my fault. Obviously. If I don't see one
of these crazy lane splitters, that's somebody's child who's going
to get killed in that crash. So it's just so
much unnecessary stress out on the roadway, totally unnecessary, and
it just comes back to the left. They don't just

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care about human life. This is such a waste of
innocent human life and just adding so much more danger
to the roadway. Let's go to Justin and Littleton. You're
on the Dan Kaplas show.

Speaker 6 (18:39):
Welcome, Hey Dan. I think we talked about this probably
a year, eight months, nine months ago, Brobab the last
summer you have the same topic. I don't even say
it's lane splitting. I think it's lack of law enforcement
the roads. And I would boil down to the not
the cops on the road, but their management. But it's
just nobody enforced. It's the speed limits cars, motorcycles, it

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doesn't matter. I think that's the key problem here.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
And what causes that?

Speaker 6 (19:09):
Well, I guess said the management stay politics. I mean
that's the root cause, right, Hey.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
It's politics, yeah, because I mean listen, as you know,
and I know for my dad being a cop for
thirty years. Anybody who signs up for law enforcement they
want to serve and protect and so when you don't
see them doing that, it's almost always because the politicians
are handcuffing them. And so what do you have right now?
You have a situation where the lefts in charge in Colorado,

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the lefts in charge in Denver, the lefts in charge
in a lot of places, and the left would make
a human sacrifice of a police officer in a millisecond.
So what does that mean If you're an officer out
there and you want to make you want to make
a stop, Well, every time you make a stop, now
you put yourself in a situation where you may become

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a political human sacrifice to the left.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
You know, if somebody accuses.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
You of this or that, or you're facing this sudden
danger and you have to use your weapon. So between
cutting back on funding, understaffing, and not supporting law enforcement,
it makes it very very hard for there to be
any enforcement on the roadway.

Speaker 6 (20:20):
Well, Dan, my brother is one month in are about
at last? Oh wow, yeah you so I have family
and it too, and I'm actually thinking about joining them.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
Oh cool.

Speaker 6 (20:30):
You know what I'm worried about is that I would
not be able to restrain myself from their policies. They
have no chase policy. I think you have to commit
a dangerous felony, something really bad for them to even
chase you. And I get the chase laws. They're kind
of dangerous for everybody in the road.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
I get it.

Speaker 6 (20:47):
And you know, they can kind of make this better
by having those grapplers or putting a stop stick in
front of the car when you pull them over so
they don't run. There's a lot of different things you
can do. But I still think that the states headed
for disaster even in the next ten and twenty years.
What changes the dynamic, I don't see anything that does.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
Yeah, no, I hear you, justin loud and clear. Thank
you for that. Well, the only thing that can change
the dynamic is electing more Republicans and fewer lefties, right,
because the left in Colorado's a perfect example, is just
ferociously anti cop and they show it in a thousand
different ways. And guess what the only reason that we've

(21:31):
had a society a prosperous society. Well, I can't say
the only reason, but one of the key reasons has
been men and women who are willing to risk dying
to enforce the law and protect the rest of us.
So when you get a crazy when you get a
crazy party like the Democratic parties becoming Colorado, and they
come in and they say, Okay, who's our enemy going

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to be? Well, it's going to be the men and
women who's willing to risk their lives to enforce the
law so we can have a society. Yeah, they've they
have made cops their enemy, and no society can survive
that long term. And look at the price Colorado's already paying.
And the example we're talking about today is on the
roadways where you have far less enforcement, and we all

(22:16):
know what that has led to. And don't blame the
officers because they're still out there risking their lives.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
Blame the politicians.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
But is there any doubt, Ryan, is there any doubt
in your mind you're on the roads all the time
that there is very very very little enforcement.

Speaker 4 (22:33):
I don't see it, and I'm on most of the
major arteries.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
Most of the time C.

Speaker 4 (22:38):
Four seventy I twenty five I seventy. Rarely do I
see a car or.

Speaker 5 (22:43):
Motorcycle pulled over by law enforcement that could be just
surely a numbers game. I'm sure you know there are
people like Sheriff Steve Rings that might be able to
speak to that as well.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
Yeah, but you can compare it to your experiences before, right,
I mean, we've all been driving these same streets. There's
a lot less enforcement than their works was ten years.

Speaker 5 (23:00):
I can tell you I rented a car upon my
return home to Michigan for Independence Day and that holiday extended.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
And I know.

Speaker 4 (23:06):
It was a holiday too, but there are a lot.

Speaker 5 (23:08):
Of speed traps by the Michigan State Police set up
on I ninety four as such.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
And I don't know Michigan well, but but I know
the left, you know, state level and Denver, et cetera.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
The left that controls things.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
They are anti cop, sure right, anti cop means anti enforcement. Hell,
they don't want the sex assault laws enforced everywhere. I mean,
it's it's madness from the left right now with some
of the stuff you see with them cutting penalties for
people committed of you know, people who commit sex assaults,
et cetera. Not in every case, but in way too many.

(23:42):
So yeah, it's madness. So don't blame the cops, you know,
blame the politicians. But it's caused a lot of unnecessary
carnage and it's going to keep doing that, which brings
us back to the age old question in Colorado? Will
it ever get so bad that people start electing Republicans.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
Statewide and not Democrats?

Speaker 1 (24:00):
Three all three someone three eight two five five the number,
Text d An five seven seven three nine text her, Dan,
get your wife to vote gop l L.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
Listen.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
My wife is a strong, intelligent independent person. I mean
John McCain. His folks asked her to host a town
hall for John McCain, a televised town hall. She did
that because she supported John McCain. She wasn't going to
be caged by any political party, Dan Crouch.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
Rockets only get caught if they want to. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
Interesting, And I think like the one that lane split
today on northbound I twenty five. That guy had to
be going one hundred and twenty or so. And what
do you think the life expectancy is there?

Speaker 2 (24:44):
Dan?

Speaker 1 (24:44):
You can't catch a bike doing one hundred and fifty. Okay,
obviously you've got some people out there who are riding
that way. And as Ryan said, this isn't the true riders, right,
These aren't the people on the hardleys, et cetera. It's
usually the crotch rockets. Dan, did you catch the trucker
that just about killed your daughter? Thank you for that
follow up? We have not yet and a quick up.

(25:06):
Do I have time for the update? Yeah, here's the update.
The twenty second background on the story is that, you know,
as you often hear me say on air, I'm always
preaching to you when the light turn screen, don't go
look both ways when the light turns green. Because of
this lack of enforcement, you know, because of these politicians,

(25:28):
we have so many people running red lights at full speed.
Nowt don't go automatically when the light turns green. So
we've drilled this into our kids also. So we've got
the video. My daughter is stopped and the light turns green.
She doesn't go. Like two full beats later, a full
eighteen wheeler, fully loaded, fully loaded, blows that red light.

(25:52):
A solid red blows that red light. I couldn't tell
the speed off the video, my daughter said she thought
going probably seventy five and forty and if she'd gone
when the light turned green, she was going to be dead.
So our challenge has been tracking down that truck because
the video you cannot read the dot and the rest
on the side of the truck. So I turned it

(26:14):
over to our experts because I do a lot of
semi cases and even this most advanced technology cannot cannot
pull the identity off the side of the truck. So
now we're pursuing other means to try to track down
this trucker. But thank you, thank you very much for
that follow up, because you know, we don't want anybody

(26:34):
else to be killed by this person, and that company
needs to know about it. Dan lane splitting and no
helmet law dumb Coloraden's listen the no helmet I get
the arguments there, but lane splitting, I don't get that
at all. If you've got an argument in favor of
lane splitting, I want to hear that lane filtering if

(26:57):
it's truly limited. Lane filtering just within a few feet
of an intersection, completely stopped traffic so the bike's not
subject to getting rear ended as it sits behind a car.
I get that, but that's not what the Left was
after here in Colorado. They were after full lane splitting,
and they knew that's what they were going to get.
Why do you think they wanted that? Anyway, I'll get
to some more of these texts here on the Dan.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
Kapla Show.

Speaker 4 (27:21):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
Yeah, problem is they're inflicting a lot of danger for
innocent people. We're talking about this insane lane splitting going
on in Colorado right now, where you have just this
explosion of motorcyclists, you know, who are driving between lanes
of traffic, moving lanes of traffic at high speed. So
talking about all that, and it's always gone on to

(27:46):
a limited extent, but with the Left passing this law
allowing lane filtering, meaning driving between carrs when traffic stopped,
what we've had is the explosion of lane splitting. You've
experienced at I experienced it almost every day and it
is insane. And yeah, okay, so the biker wants to

(28:07):
risk her life for his life, but they're endangering so
many others in the process and it's wrong. And you know,
we've always got to throw the qualifier in there. I've
never seen it. Ryan, You've never seen it. We're not
talking about the serious, responsible riders out there, right, We're
talking almost always about these crowch rockets. You're not seeing

(28:27):
the Harleys, the Indians, et cetera. You're you're seeing these
crowch rockets, and it's it's leading to so much tragedy.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Tim and Westminster.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
You're on the Dan Kapla show. We don't curse the darkness.
We light a candle. What's the fix?

Speaker 2 (28:39):
My friend?

Speaker 7 (28:41):
Well, gosh, hi Dan, I'm a little, you know, nervous
about being, you know, with you here. I listen to
you all the time. I'm a native of Colorado. I'm
a boxer, a coach, a martial artist. So I got
that in touch with you. So because of that, I traveled.
I'm a referee, and I traveled, and I go from

(29:05):
one corner of the state to the other. And I'm
just gonna so let me just before I say this,
I'm going to say that right before I called you,
you were talking about the splitting and the filtering, which
I have no idea where it came from. I don't
remember any of us ever having it on a ballot
because I'm a registered voter, and we never voted on this.

(29:25):
To me, seems like part of californication or californication. So,
uh but let me just let me just backtrack here. So,
so I was driving down the road here, I'm driving
down Evans and I look over and there's a dirt
bike and a kid on a dirt bike. I don't
know if he's a kid, because I can't tell. He's
got a helmet on, he's got the pads on the

(29:46):
shoulder pads and the plastic armor of a dirt bike guy.
And there's no license plate, and there's no blinkers and mirrors,
and he's sitting at the stop light. He's going to
make a left. I'm looking at my you know, does
this guy pay for his license plate and pay the
taxes to be on a road that we pay? They
keep the potholes free, you know, you know, right? And

(30:10):
and so that's what that's what I was like. And
then what what caught me was is the other day
I've seen these runningade motorcycle people and they're not even
like on these dirt bikes even they're like, I don't
even know if they're When I was a kid, we
called them tote goats, and they were like these homemade motorcycles,
and and there are all these these running guys and
there's there's no license plates on them, and they're they're

(30:32):
little small bikes and they jump out on the road
in front end they boys out and there's no license
plates and all. And I'm like, what is this. That's
what prompted me, you know, to call you yeah, right right,
And then so so I can said, I travel for
my work. And I was on my way home from
Pueblo a couple of weeks ago. And this is probably

(30:52):
midnight because the things I do, and probably at eleven
o'clock twelve o'clock at night, and and then I have
to drive back to the Metro. And I got right
past maybe I guess, Castle Rock. And I don't know
what these cars. I'm gonna call them fast and furious
at cars or drifters or something. And as I got

(31:15):
through Castle Rock and I was headed up the monument
there whatever the pass is right there or whatever from
Castle Rock or not Monument or whatever the little hill
is from there, these lit up cars just went past me.
And I'm doing seventy eight, almost eighty because it's seventy
five and they blazed past me and I was like

(31:39):
wow and okay, and then immediately ten to fifteen of
these frock rocket bis like you're.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
Talking right in between me.

Speaker 7 (31:51):
And then we're all going seventy five and these we're
going ninety one hundred. One of those guys goes down
and I swerved to evade there, and I hit another
car and that kid, that car's got a mom with
a baby.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
In and in over here, and you know, so, I guess.

Speaker 7 (32:06):
So My thing is, Dan, is, how did how can
this be where we none of us got to vote
on it. I have relatives in California.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
Yeah, can I jump in for a second because we're at.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
The end of the show and Rode, Yeah, gotcha, I
got you.

Speaker 7 (32:19):
You go go, Dan, Hey, thanks foring me talking.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
Hey, thanks man, appreciate the call. And what Tim's talking about.
You've probably experienced right where you get these big packs
and it's we did vote for it. Unfortunately, when when
we not we, not you, not me, not Tim, but
but when Colorado elected these lefties to office because they
are anti cop, they are anti law enforcement, and what

(32:42):
are you going to get? Then you're not going to
have the law enforce because they're undermining the police. And
what's going to happen then you're gonna have this breakdown
in order that we're seeing in so many different ways,
and this is one way that it manifests with this
craziness on the roadway to the point where because of
the lefties who rule so many places around the state

(33:03):
and the state, you have these wild mobs that take
different forms and in this case on these bikes. And
we're not talking about responsible motorcycle riders or anything like that,
or responsible big motorcycle groups, but we're talking about these
lawless mobs. Yeah, that's what we get.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
And the only way we can change it.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
Is electing people who support law enforcement, and not just
law enforcement officers, but the actual enforcement of the law.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
It's insane, man.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
But it'll be interesting to see at what points the
people of Colorado say enough's enough. You know, we just
we're not going to just keep electing these same crazy
lefties every time.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
Ryan, great to see again, my friend.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
Thank you for holding down the Ford share of Steve
heidie ganall as well while I was off at my
latest wonderful courtroom adventure. Kelly, you're the best and Delokford
to joining Everybody tomorrow six on The Dancaplo Show.
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