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October 1, 2025 35 mins
Dr. Matt Dunn fills in for Dan on Wednesday and immediately offers to serve as Rosie O'Donnell's therapist - does he know what he's getting into?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Dan Capless and welcome to today's online podcast
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
Welcome aboard.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
No, it is not Dan Capless today, alas it is
Matt Dunn here, fan and friend of Dan Caplis. I've
been in here a few times lately, and once in
a while I'll show up and just share some thoughts,
share whatever wisdom I might happen to have on any
given day, and you just never know. I mean it's

(00:37):
it can be decent there and it can be lacking
some days. Got to admit, we'll see where we land today.
We might even get to actually talk to Dan Capless
as this program goes on. Looking forward to that if
we can connect. Thank you for the text messages already

(00:57):
flowing in here.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Honored to see them.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
And yes, I'm just the local dentist who has this
slightly unusual radio hobby going back a couple of decades.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Come in and talk a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
About what I'm seeing, what i am thinking, and I
do have a bunch of thoughts today. And you know,
I might try to cover something to do with the
government shut down. It's shut down. Everybody doing okay out there.
Has it affected your life yet in any way? Do
you feel that the sky looks different, the clouds look different,

(01:35):
the sun is orbiting the planet, or is it vice
versa a little differently right now or is it just
sort of business as usual? And I will say this,
I do think the American people are kind of tuning
this noise out. We've been having this government shut down,
rinkmanship ploy going back to the nineteen nineties, which I

(01:59):
might view some of that history just so we know
where all this stuff comes from.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
And I do say it's nonsense.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
And you know, don't be faulted or don't feel at
all guilty if you kind of tend to blow this
stuff off a little where everybody hyperventilates in the media,
But you know, we just kind of go about our
business and do our thing and let the political people
do their stuff. Might cover a bit on JK. Rowling

(02:26):
and her, you know, the author of all those Harry
Potter books, which I have read every single one of
those out loud to my kiddos, my four kiddos.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
That's a lot of words.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
Luckily, I am good at words, and some of those
books are like nine hundred pages long, and those can
take like four or five six months to get through
them when you're reading them out loud to your kids
at night before tuck ins. One thing I would do
is I would read like I'd be on book number
six with number two kid, and I'd be on book

(02:59):
number two with say number three kid, And then I
would start getting confused into my head as though, you know,
what is going on with the plots, and I'd start
conflating the different books of VIAB.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
That's seven of them actually in the Harry Potter.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
But the point on this is that jk Rowling has
been very forthright in her opinions that essentially men or men,
women are women.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
She doesn't like the.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
Concepts of kids doing gender transitioning. She's been very vocal,
very very articulate about it. Has taken a lot of
heat for it, and even the you know, the Young
Actors and the Harry Potter movies have gone after JK
Rowling over all these years for her commentary there. And
there's kind of just a new new wrinkle in that

(03:47):
over this past week that I think is worth exploring,
and it does tie into a macro theme of mine
about the decline and fall of the UK, the United Kingdom.
I keep compiling these little tidbits of evidence about man
what happened to England? I used to be a bit
of an Anglo file. Of course, I wasn't an Anglo

(04:10):
file back in seventeen seventy six. I was an American
file whatever you would call that back then. I haven't
been around that long, but you get the idea. But
that country is completely falling apart. Its character has just
sort of imploded somehow. And I've got some examples to
pull forward and we can just puzzle over this together,

(04:32):
like what happened to England? Will there always be in England?
I'm not convinced. James Comy gets indicted. That's good news.
If anybody ever deserved to be indicted, in my opinion,
it would be James Comy, former director of the FBI.

(04:54):
But it evolves a little bit and people are asking
Donald Trump, you know, hey, you know you're indicting your
political ap you worry about retaliation?

Speaker 2 (05:03):
Do you worry about.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
Them coming after you and your your own new FBI
director and Trump's response to that quite interesting. And I
don't know, I mean, anybody remember the Trump mugshot. Anybody
remember four plus years of spygate, Russia, Russia and the
rest of it, the constant attacks on Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
I'm is this the kind of thing where.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
You should just sort of roll over, roll over, take it,
play nice in politics, never do anything, never respond to
attacks upon you politically, or is it better to sort
of have things go the way they're going? And of course,
at bottom, the truth is what matters. Does James Comy
deserve to be indicted in my opinion, heck yes, it's

(05:48):
not about retaliations, be about the truth of the matter.
But we'll talk about a bit about being nice in politics.
There's been some people out there saying that Charlie Kirk,
you know, if he would have been nicer, you know,
none of this stuff would have ever happened. And I
can throw that in there still a rather sore spot

(06:09):
with me, the Charlie Kirk scenario. Even some Christian evangelists
are out there saying that, you know, we need a
more sensitive gospel and so forth, and maybe that could
have prevented the assassination of Charlie Kirk and you start
puzzling about these things. Is that the way to go to,

(06:31):
you know, extra constant niceness in politics?

Speaker 2 (06:35):
I feel like you don't see much of that today.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
Just roll over constant politeness and sort of, you know,
let the political opposition run over you, trample you.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Is that the way to go?

Speaker 3 (06:49):
Some folks might have some thoughts on that, maybe even
some strong thoughts on that, which I would be eager
to hear. Rosie O'Donnell, her therapist, is expressing surprise at
the degree of her ongoing Trump hatred, even her therapists
a surprise. We might explore that that that does seem

(07:09):
to be you know, it is a maybe a diagnosable
psychological phenomenon. And is there a way that people like
even Rosie could work through this a little bit, to
just be a little happier in life and live a
best life rather than allow sort of your mood swings
to be determined by you know, who's in or out

(07:31):
in politics, who is up or down? Why don't we
cover these things? A great idea from Donald Trump. He's
exploring about possibly eliminating the capital gains tax on home sales.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
Oh yeah, who would go for that.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
I would go for that. What would that do to
housing markets? What would that do to home sales? What
would that do to the incomes of the in the
prospects of the noble and saintly American middle class?

Speaker 4 (08:03):
Oo?

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Boy, why don't we do that?

Speaker 3 (08:06):
And by the way, Trump quite successful with one lawsuit
after another against like YouTube which is part of Google,
against Twitter, and against metaphor a censorship of his person
and his platforms.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
Going back a few years, He's up.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
To ninety million in in what would you call them
rewards where some of these big corporations who censor Donald
Trump are coffing up millions of dollars. And of course
Trump doesn't put it in his pocket. He puts it
in like some projects somewhere, or the library here and there.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
Or all kinds.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
You can see kind of a lot of grousing in
the mainstream media about this, but I don't know.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
It kind of surprises me that these these verdicts.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
Are actually coming in and Trump is winning them, just
when you think the legal system would never have things
like this happen. Big story in the La Times on
this today. It makes sure sometimes think that you know,
maybe the legal system does is not totally totally biased

(09:12):
in every way, and there are there are pockets where
good things can happen, and you know, maybe more than
I realized. Maybe I need to open my mind up
just a little bit there. And one note of sadness.
Jane Goodall has passed away at the age of ninety one,
the famed chimpanzee. Uh, you know, a friend of chimpanzees

(09:34):
and scholar, book publisher and read a nice book by
her some years ago. And I don't think I've ever
heard anybody say anything negative about Jane Goodall.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
Ryan is that? Are you? Are you with me on
that is? Have you ever heard anything negative about Jane Goodall? No?
And what was the movie Gorillas in the Mess? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (09:50):
Yeah, I think that was Diane Fosse. Actually that's that's
the gorilla one gorilla Jane. Jane is the chimpanzee one case. Yeah,
there's the difference. Yeah, yeah, ones like bigger ones, you know.
But but rip to Jane Goodall actually born in London.
I always thought she was American, but apparently she's British

(10:12):
and that might might work that into my decline of
the UK segment later on in the program, at any rate,
just a little teeing up of some items, and we'd
love to have your input around here. Text messages can
be sent to five seven seven three nine and again
Matt don In for Dan Capless.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
Let's be right back.

Speaker 5 (10:35):
And now back to the Dankapless Show podcast.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Bye, oh, this is good.

Speaker 3 (10:42):
Yeah, we're playing music to Jane Goodall or maybe even
also Dianne Fosse here today Matt don In for Dan Capitalists.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
Really honored to be able to show up and say hello, and.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
Should you be inclined to check in over here here
phone number three oh three seven one, three eight two
five five Again those text the studio five seven seven
three nine and batch has already come in.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
I'll get to reading those here after a while.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
And by the way, the band that sings that song,
I've seen them in concert.

Speaker 6 (11:17):
Can I ask you what was the name of that band?
Bare Naked Ladies, Yeah, baar Naked Ladies Canota his own.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
I had a weird thing in my car that whenever
I'd plug in my phone, my iTunes would reset and
go to the first alphabetical listed group in my uh
in my archive, and for some reason, it was always
the bar Naked Ladies. I'd turn on my car and
I'd hear the Bare Naked Ladies like every day, and
I never could figure out what to do with it.
No group that starts with a preceded it.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
Actually, you know what?

Speaker 3 (11:48):
It was a song by the Bare Naked Ladies that
was like aa aaa or something.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
So it was our first song. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
Anyway, good memories and uh overrated band if you want
my opinion at any rate. You know this government shut
down business and yes, off to the phones. We can
go to the phones in a minute. Looks like I
just wanted to add a little context. And again I
wouldn't blame you if you tune this out a little bit,
if you don't sit around.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
With your feathers all ruffled.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
But maybe sit back and watch the posturing, watch the hyperventilating,
watch all the brinkmanship that has characterized our politics. With
the government shut down ploy which goes back to about
nineteen ninety five nineteen ninety six. Some of us are
old enough to remember when Nut Gingrich took over the

(12:41):
House in nineteen ninety four. The Republicans had a dramatic
House takeover after oh my gosh, how long was it
of Democrat rule.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
Which the government grew and grew and grew.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
And America languished in that way. But Newt Gingris came
in and he was, you know, speaking a lot of stuff,
it's kind of Trump style today, got in there, had
a great plan to get more Republicans elected.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
And then Newt.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
Gingrich, with a big old head esteem changing a lot
of things taken on President Bill Clinton at the time,
a lot of momentum behind him. The Democrats, as in
Bill Clinton figured out a way to pull a pretty
good stunt on Newt and that was to have a
big battle over the you know, government funding and the

(13:29):
Congressional bill, the big stuff, and shut down the government.
And Newt Gingrich shut down the government. And back then
it was all mainstream media, you know, the three networks
in PR a little bit and all that stuff, and boy,
Newt Gingrich took a pounding from all the media. And
back in those days there wasn't enough variety of opinion

(13:52):
that people could get their ears and minds exposed to.
And it became pretty much universally acknowledged that Bill Clinton
got the upper hand on that deal, and Newt Gingrish
was never quite the same, never quite as effective after that,
and so ever since that first successful Democrat victory in

(14:12):
that nineteen ninety five government shut down, there's been a handful,
actually quite a bunch of them government shut down since then.
It's the same old playbook, the elite establishment, ruling class,
political class, generally Democrats, but you have to throw in
a bunch of rhino types. Yes, the glorious rhinos. They're

(14:33):
out there.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
They're probably quivering right now, but oh no, the government
shut down. I hope they're okay.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
I hope they can keep a hold of themselves, not
panic too much right now. But it's a way to
use the shutdown politics and the brinksmanship politics to have
the political establishment get its way, okay, And it just
happens time after time after time, and what was the

(15:03):
wrong reagular line?

Speaker 2 (15:04):
There you go again, I mean, here we go again
on all this.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
And interestingly, I mean, I don't know if this is
going to work for the ruling class, for the Democrats
on this deal, because it's pretty clear, as you just
heard Ryan Gouling talk about on his program right before
this show started, that uh, you know, healthcare funding, Medicaid
funding for illegal immigrants seems like the center piece or

(15:33):
one of them of why the Democrats want to shut
down the government, and the Democrats are the ones that
did shut down the government.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
So is that.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
Really something that's going to resumeate or resonate, you know,
if that information can get out and people can understand
the true dynamics. But again, the Democrats, the Rhinos, the
ruling class, I mean, they're really into you know, the
wide open border. I mean, that's like their most their
most the thing the most passionate about. For whatever reason,

(16:02):
It's it's kind of mysterious that that's what's become of
the Western elites and not just America but around the
world and Western civilization.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
So will that resonate? I just kind of doubt it.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
And there's all these memes going around of Hakim Jeffries
wearing a sombrero, and I don't know if most folks
follow social media and so forth, but they're kind of funny.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Have you seen them, Ryan? I Mean, they're like pretty
darn funny.

Speaker 6 (16:28):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
In fact, they're hilarious.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
And apparently Hakim Jeffries is rather sensitive about them and
is complaining about them, and Vice President Vance has promised
that if Hakeem Jeffries stops his government shut down, that
the sombrero memes will stop forthwith no more sombrero memes
if he just gets the government back open. We'll see

(16:50):
if that's an offer that he can or cannot refuse.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
But why don't we can we venture off to the
phone lines here.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
I don't see a name popping in, but uh, Mike,
Mike is South Carolina long distance call here, Matt Dunn
in for Dan Kaplis.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
Thanks for checking in, sir. Yeah, Hi, Matt, How are
you doing all right?

Speaker 4 (17:17):
Good?

Speaker 3 (17:18):
Good?

Speaker 6 (17:18):
Hey, just call it kind of get your impression. I
know you're a busy guy. I probably didn't have this
seventy five minutes to invest in watching the entire speech yesterday,
did not missed on Trump's speech? Yeah, and what was
the topic of the speech?

Speaker 3 (17:36):
And usually I'm all over this, but I didn't get
that one. You know, I'll bet you very few people
have watched as many Trump speeches as I have. Rallies
and go down the list, but here here's one little vacancy.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
But yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
The speech he.

Speaker 6 (17:52):
Made to all the generals and admirals that they flew
in from all over the world into a quantico.

Speaker 3 (17:57):
Ah, okay, and how about your take on it, this
speech to the military, which, by the way, I've seen
a lot of positive commentary on it and with Secretary
of War Hegg Seth in there. But if you have
a ten to fifteen second comment on this speech.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
Mike, yeah, I don't think. I don't think Kelly's gonna
let me speak.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
That's blood coming out of her.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
Whatever.

Speaker 6 (18:21):
I wish, I wish I could look like we're heading
into a break. Oh well, actually, how about hang on,
hang hang on just a sec.

Speaker 5 (18:29):
We'll be right back.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
Matt Dunn in for Dan Capless.

Speaker 5 (18:36):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
Hope you are having a beautiful, wonderful, extraordinary evening afternoon.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Matt Dunn in for Dan Capitalis and just sharing some
thoughts you.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
You are invited three O three seven one three two
five five Texas Studio five seven seven three nine.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
I'll get back to the brew haha.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
About the shutdown, I don't know, are people I mean,
do people really pay attention to this shutdown stuff? I
mean it's just we it happens constantly and like all
the time, and do people.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
Really you know, get wound up?

Speaker 3 (19:14):
I remember back in the day ninety five, ninety six
and the rest of it.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
It was a very big deal. But now it's would
you say it's old hat?

Speaker 3 (19:25):
I might get in at Rosie O'Donnell in a minute
before that, more and more shutdown talk and Joy Reid
is she still at MSNBC or no?

Speaker 2 (19:36):
Does she?

Speaker 1 (19:36):
She?

Speaker 2 (19:36):
She did depart for greener pastures.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
She might have gone the way of the podcast. Yes,
that's what she's doing. But I just saw this quote
from her. It's on that leading report where Joy Reid
is warning Americans of MAGA plans. And these plans are
quote from Joy Reid quote no income tax, no regulations,

(20:02):
earn as much as you want, and leave it to
your children with no taxes. That's the world they want.
End quote MAGA plans. Uh wow? Does anything sound wrong
with that? Does anything sound negative about that? I mean

(20:23):
that that seems kind of good. That seems like a
pretty good set of MAGA plans. No income tax, no regulations,
earn as much as you want, and leave it to
your children with no taxes. If that is the summary
of MAGA from Joy, read where do we go?

Speaker 2 (20:40):
Sign up for more of that? Where?

Speaker 3 (20:43):
Where can we? Where can we do that and have
that come to pass. Yes, I think a lot of
folks listening would be all in for these MAGA plans.

Speaker 6 (20:54):
She is welcome to offer up a portion of her
income and pay it more in taxes if she'd.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
Like to do that.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
You mean you could voluntarily pay more to the government.
I mean, I mean nothing is like stopping you right. No, No,
you don't get arrested for doing that if you overfund
the government. If you ask your accountant, could I do more?

Speaker 2 (21:16):
Could I? Could you add a few more to the
left of the.

Speaker 6 (21:19):
Decimal It sounds ridiculous, but even these leftists like joy Reid,
is there anyone out there, including anyone listening, that doesn't
try to maximize your income tax return and minimize the.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
Amount of money you pay to the government. Does that
make you miserly? No?

Speaker 3 (21:33):
But I'll tell you this, though, Ryan, that nobody does
that more than Democrats. I mean, I mean those folks,
they're watching out for every little penny.

Speaker 6 (21:45):
I guess that's a stereotype, but it's true. You know,
you would think if you're up.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
There and you're spouting your brotherhood of man and woman rhetoric,
and the government must be larger that.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
I mean, if you really believe that, wouldn't you want
to do more? Right? Don't you have it in your heart? Right?

Speaker 3 (22:06):
It might be, you know, when it comes down to it,
they need to work on their compassion or something like that,
or just you know, their overall generosity. I know, you know,
talking it is at least something, you know, but doing it,
I guess that's where it sort of really counts, right,
it really matters at any rate. Rosie o'donal another would

(22:28):
you say that there's some similarities to leftist commentator Joy
read it?

Speaker 2 (22:35):
Does you know?

Speaker 3 (22:36):
I was just watching Rosie o'donnal a little bit, and
I don't know why I was doing that. I must
have had a lot of free time just sitting around
watching Rosie O'Donnell, something I don't do every day. But
I saw this clip where you know, she you know,
gets therapy and that's good, and her therapist was expressing

(22:58):
some level of surprise at her anger hatred towards Donald Trump.
And do we have that clip available? We could listen
to this here and just you can kind of listen
that you can imagine that Rosie o'donald. She just looks
very unhappy and kind of grim, super super serious, and
again with this sort of outlook that you know, the

(23:21):
country is going away, the country is dying, We're losing
the country because Trump is around and just a very
unhappy person.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Is that the way it has to be?

Speaker 3 (23:29):
I will admit when Biden was in office, I did
have the occasional mood of thinking, this is not great
and this is not wonderful. So you know, we all
do this a little bit, but boy, Rosie is going
over the top here, even surprising her therapist. Let's hit
that one, Ryan.

Speaker 4 (23:45):
When people say I changed my mind, we have to say,
welcome back to reality. Let's all be Americans together, right,
because what's happening is not only happening to Demo. It's
happening to everyone.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
And when the.

Speaker 4 (24:03):
Medicaid cuts go in, old people are going to start
to die, to die. What he's done yet hasn't even
hit us yet. And if he's not stopped now, we
have lost our country. And I don't know, Nicole, how

(24:23):
it is that some people cannot see it. My therapist said,
why are you so upset? And I said to her,
why are you not?

Speaker 3 (24:34):
So the therapist is like, I shouldn't be laughing. But Rosie,
why are you so upset? Why are you so upset?

Speaker 2 (24:43):
You know?

Speaker 3 (24:43):
And she's explaining that, well, people are going to die,
and rather extreme rhetoric. Okay, And again, has anybody noticed
that there has been a lot of extreme rhetoric from
the left going back to me, let's just take this license.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
Twenty fifteen.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
Trump came down the escalator and it was going to
be fascism, the end of America. I was going to
be World War three. You can go down a list
of all these utterly horrific things that were going to
be happening on a day to day, moment to moment
basis in this country.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
And I don't know. I mean, at some point, I.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
Do think you might step back a little bit and say, well,
has any of that happened? Has even one tiny molecule
of any of that happened? And you would say, no,
it has just never been that dire. And some people
would say it's been pretty positive a lot of the
things that have happened, and some people would say that,
you know, America is being restored onto a better track,

(25:40):
and I don't know, the economy seems to be in
a lot of ways doing pretty well, and how many
fresh stock market records have we hit since Trump got
back into office.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
I would just you.

Speaker 6 (25:53):
Know, if I was Rosie O'Donnell's therapist, what if I
did that?

Speaker 2 (25:58):
Could I sign up for that job? I take it.
I don't know that you could be paid enough one
and then two.

Speaker 6 (26:03):
If she's seeing a therapist, maybe it's a zoom thing
from a therapist back here in the States. But I
distinctly remember Rosie O'Donnell moved to Ireland so she didn't
have to deal with this stuff anymore. But she's still
obsessed with it. Matt, is she actually in Ireland. I
don't know if that clip was from Ireland. She's in Ireland.
She's Irish, now, okay, good well O'Donnell. That's fairly Irish

(26:27):
name when it comes down to it. She went back
to the Homeland, she went back to where it's like green.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
Good for her.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
I don't know if the therapist was Irish, but I mean,
if I was sitting there, I would just say, you know, hey, politics,
you win some, you lose some. Sometimes your people are up,
sometimes your people are down. Sometimes you know, you can
start thinking dire thoughts and extreme thoughts and if you're
always on a screen and always on a device, you
will see no end of extreme rhetoric about all the

(26:57):
horrible things that could happen if person A person B
or party A or party beer in power.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
But in general, very little of this actually materializes.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
And I would even say that that that goes both ways,
right with the exception of the Biden administration, which was
an absolute travesty and pretty much destroyed country for a
while and made a lot of us a little embarrassed
about it.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
So I kind of stepping on my own argument here,
But if you can.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
Just step back from your screen, head out to a
nice sandy beach on that coastline of Ireland, or walk
on that green grass in Ireland and just smile a
little bit more. But the you know, that's just my advice,
and I am not a therapist, and probably that advice
wasn't good enough to earn me any credentials there. But

(27:47):
there's a way to find that kind of detachment, and
you know, some of that might boil down to a
certain level of maturity, right, a little bit more mature perspective.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
Okay, all right.

Speaker 6 (27:59):
Now, this government shut down business before we head to
the break I'm just gonna say this that uh Rusvot,
the O and B director who has Claremont roots as
I do personally, might start cutting jobs, might start using
the shutdown as a you know, part of a pretexte.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
Well, I guess we're going to have to cut a
whole bunch of workers out of these various three letter agencies.
And hmm, how's that going to go over? Let's talk
about that.

Speaker 6 (28:29):
I've got kind of a roadmap on some of the
cuts that could happen here. And I don't know, is
anybody going to feel angst over that?

Speaker 2 (28:38):
Matt Dunn and for Dan Capless be right back.

Speaker 5 (28:43):
And now back to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Good to Touch the Green green Grass a home Denile Week?
Is that the Porter Wagner verse of Green green Grass?

Speaker 5 (29:01):
This is Tom Jones.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
Tom Jones, Okay, I believe Porter Wagner wrote that I
could be wrong.

Speaker 6 (29:08):
You could very well be right, though I could be right,
el us saying this too.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
If I was right, nobody would be more surprised than
me to look that up.

Speaker 6 (29:17):
Yes, you're the trivia master here and I am. We
got to combine forces.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
This tempts me to go on a little tiny vignette
about Porter Wagner, because I think he did write the Green,
Green Grass of Home.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
I think that was his biggest hit.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
And I will say this that my family in southern Missouri,
long long time ago, when Porter Wagner was just a boy,
had a nice big house in a small town in
southern Missouri, and uh with a bunch of extra rooms.
And there was a fellow from that town who was

(29:50):
trying to make it as a musician in life and
was struggling a little bit, needed a place to stay.
And I believe it was my great great grandparents was
this individual for some time, and he did go on
to be rather successful.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
His name was Porter Wagner.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
Oh yeah, And so they helped him out a little
bit along the way. And if you'll remember, how did
Dolly Parton ever get famous? Ladies and gentlemen. Well, obviously
supremely talented. Everybody loves Dolly Parton like one of the
greatest Americans you could ever imagine, you're here, But she
as a teenager was brought on to the Porter Wagner

(30:30):
Show program TV show, and of course Dolly became quite
famous and Porter Wagner Dolly Parton recorded all of those
albums together wonderful music, wonderful music. But if you step
back and you see the big picture here, you can
see that it is my very family that allowed the
situation to arise for Dolly Parton to become famous. So

(30:51):
I'd like to take credit for Dolly Parton, obviously very
right here, but direct and right now.

Speaker 6 (30:57):
Here's the story behind it. Green Green Grass of Home
written by Claude curly Putman Junior, but first recorded by
singer Johnny Darnell in nineteen sixty five.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
So I whiffed on that one.

Speaker 6 (31:07):
Well, hold on, okay, it was There's More a country song,
made popular though by Porter Wagner that same year when
it reached number four on the country chart and also
was recorded by Bobby Bear and Jerry Lee Lewis, Jery
Jarlie Cherie and Tom Jones learned the song from Lewis's
version in a nineteen sixty six he had a worldwide

(31:27):
number one hit with it.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
And that's the one you just heard, boy.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
That is great information Wikipedia, And I did whiff it
on who wrote that song, But Porter Wagoner was the
first guy to make it big, yep, exactly with that one,
and it's kind of a kind of a sad song.
If you listen all the way to the end, there's
kind of a punchline at the end. And uh, just
kudos to Dolly Parton. How many people are there out
there that everybody in America likes? Everybody? I think it's

(31:53):
only two. It's not Rosie O'Donnell, No.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
It's it's it's Dolly Parton and.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
This Keanu Reeves. Those are the only two people that
everyone in this country likes, no matter what. You kind
of remind me like you could be Kean O. Reeves's
older brother. Have you heard that before?

Speaker 2 (32:10):
Younger brother? Come on? Sorry, yeah, yeah, younger, Okay, young
a lot younger.

Speaker 6 (32:16):
But I would have added now he's deceased now, but
on the Dolly Parton kind of pantheon of everybody loves her,
everybody loves him Fred Rogers, mister Rogers.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
Oh neighborhood, mister Rogers. But he's deceased, of course. Yes.
And my h my four year old is a huge.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
Mister Rogers fan right now, right, and I sit and
watch it with him because I'm a fan of mister
Rogers too. I will say this, all of my kids,
four of them four year old being the youngest ever
since they were really little, I would introduce them my
wife and I to uh mister Rogers and mister Rogers.
You know, low tech, no flashy animation, catchy quick camera

(32:55):
angles or transitions, just a guy wearing a sweater, feeding
the fish, telling a story, playing with his trolley.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
Thing that goes back to uh Ie make believe land.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
Yeah, by somehow captivating the minds of children in that
way enduringly for what fifty plus years now, Well.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
My baby's sister was like five.

Speaker 6 (33:17):
If she came home from kindergarten missed it, she would
throw a fit.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
That's how much she loved sisters. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (33:24):
I mean one time mister Rogers, Fred Rogers went to
Congress and was asking for some funding for his show.
And he got up there before Congress and they were
asking him stern questions about stuff, you know, and and
the way mister Rogers handled all of those questions in
his gentle mister Rogers kind of manner he got he
walked out of there with everything he wanted, he got it,

(33:44):
and everyone walked out just loving that man. And that's
that's how it works with mister Rogers.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
And by the way.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
I was going to talk about something else, I believe,
But oh, I did have a all these textas studio.
Maybe I don't quite have time. But there was one
individual who I think I salute this texture's judgment, who says,
doctor Donne, if you play Rosie O'Donnell again, I'm gonna
have to turn you off. And let me just say,

(34:14):
can I apologize that.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
I did do that.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
I was just trying to help Rosie because she just
looked very unhappy and grim and unsmiling. And you know,
we try to bring joy and happiness and encouragement and
give advice right to my de facto therapist sideline that
I sometimes engage in around here because you know, I
have good ideas once in a while. But what if

(34:39):
we went to the phone lines or do we not
have time? Do we have time? We have time? Let's oh,
oh we don't. Okay, Okay, we're gonna have to save
the phone lines.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
For just a little bit longer. So if you can
hang on out there.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
But regarding the government shut down, bru should we call it?
There could be This is Elizabeth McDonald at Fox News
is saying the Trump administration will likely cut federal workers
in the government shut down fight. It's already proposed wiping
up one hundred and seven thousand federal jobs and non

(35:15):
defense agencies and fiscal twenty six and sixty k from
the Pentagon, nine thousand Department of Agriculture, thousands at USDA,
one thousand at GSA, throw in HUDs, CFPB, Education Department, HHSFDA,
all these.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
Other three letter agencies. Matt Dunn and for Dan Kapliss
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