August 6, 2025 • 34 mins
Economist Mike O'Donnell joins Dan to discuss the REAL story behind Colorado's 'job creation' numbers, citing growth only in public sector government positions - NOT in the private sector.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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topics today right the American Way now quite the opposite
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with the Denver Post doing to do better Denver. We
talked to Jimmy Sangenberger about his great piece in the
Denver Gazette on that will continue that conversation, some great
text rolling in and then the ongoing conversation about Polis
King Polis telling poor people in Colorado know you're on
food stamps. No coke for you, at least not with
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those food stamps. And unfortunately the Trump administration going along
with that. So that goes so many different directions. What
will continue to go down those tributaries? And then to me,
as a dog owner and lover who used to live
in North Boulder, this interest in question of whether you
let the Mountain lion live or die? Who took that
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dog right off the leash and killed the dog? Somebody
was just walking through North's Boulder and they got the
Mountain Lion, So thumbs up or down on that critter
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five of the number text d A N five seven
seven three nine text her Dan, please ask for the
author referring to Denver Post to come on to your
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show for a conversation if he she isn't willing to
do so. It says a lot about Heshi and the
Denver Post DK in Broomfield. It is she, Shelley, Bradbury
and Kelly did extend the invitation. I understand as soon
as that story came out we have not had that accepted.
At this point, Dan, I don't know if the three
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ladies were actually docks. Could you please tell us if
their names and addresses were published. Their names were published,
so I don't say docks, I say out it they
were outed. They wanted to be private. They told the
Post a we're afraid of getting threat if you publish
your names. And these aren't public figures. These are just
three ladies going about their lives who submit public records requests.
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And the Post said, no, we're publishing your names. Even
though the Post acknowledged in the piece it meant they
may very well get threats, and the Post justified it
with some so called expert who said, yeah, they're partial
public figures and threats are part of the business. I'm paraphrasing,
but fairly yeah, extraordinary. Right, How does any sane person
view that as anything other than just rank intimidation based
(02:32):
on political viewpoint? Right? I mean, how do you view
that any other way? Form your own opinion. But I
think it's pretty clear what the Post is up to, Dan,
other than saying how horrible the Denver Post is. Can
these women do anything? Can they sue? Can anything be done? Ryan?
I have been really surprised at the persistence and number
of the folks texting and asking, you know, can they sue?
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And I've done civil law now forty one years and
that is what I do. And so I've just been
wracking my brain because on a right and wrong level,
you know, this thing's off the charts, right, I mean
every bit of righteous your sense of righteousness, your sense
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of fairness, right and wrong, and deeply offended by what
the Post is done here. So every bone in my
body is telling me there should be a cause of action.
That's what they call a civil claim. When you do
have a righteous sue. There should be a cause of
action here, but at this point I haven't done the
deep dive research. I don't see what it is. I
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don't see what the cause of action would be here,
and it may be out there, and may be out there,
and if somebody can show it to me, I'll take
a hard look at it, because I think what was
done to these women is very, very wrong. But I
don't see it. I don't see the legal cause of
action here because there are so many things that somebody
can do that are just wrong and they violate all
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natural law, they violate basic decency, they violate journalistic standards,
and it doesn't mean that you can sue for it,
and I think this may well be one of those cases.
Now I understand the argument people are making on the
other side, which is, you know, the Posts chose to
make their name public, acknowledging that it may cause them
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to get threats. So would the Post then be responsible
if any action was taken against these women, And so
I understand why people are asking the question. My conclusion is,
I don't see the legal cause of action against the Post.
What I hope we see is I hope we see
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a lot of people rise up and a lot of
people support Do Better Denver and the work that these
women and others have been doing, because if it is,
if it is such a threat to the Johnston administration,
have the truth told about them, that this would now
be happening to these women, these private people they weren'tntil
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the Post outed them, then Yeah, I think we all
need to step up and support Do Better Denver in
every way we can. And I'm not saying it's perfect
or everything they've ever published is accurate. I have no clue, right,
I just know that that if the Post has gone
to these links to try to undermine them, then then
they must be doing something really right. And I've seen
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a lot of stuff they put out that looks accurate
and it exposes the Johnston Administration's failings in a very
effective way. Three h three Someone three eight two five
five text DA five seven seven through nine Ryan Update Us.
You had talked about on Ryan as a great show
two to four each afternoon in the Denver Market six
thirty Kitchen w You had been talking about a post
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from Do Better Denver saying that they believe the Johnston
administration is behind this.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Yes, this is a.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Very interesting, enlightening and discouraging on some level, I guess
you'd have to say, but it says the following here
let me see here.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
I had it right in front of you. Actually there, dan.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Oh, I can I can pull it up capable of that?
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
They've been posting a lot today, as you may says.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
I'm quoting from Do Better Denver. I have been informed
that the Mayor's office were the ones that looked at
all the CORRA requests over the last two years and
tried to figure out who I am based on CORRA
requests and my post. The Mayor's office narrated down to
three names and fed the story to at Denver Post
and told their contact at the Post to Cora the
CORRA requests and hopes of outing me and getting the
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media and my followers to turn on me. The Mayor's
office said that at Mike Johnston wants to Do Better
Denver gone because I am ruining his narrative. Is it
legal for government officials to try to silence me via
doxing or engaging the Denver Post to do so? Yikes?
Is this legal? To Better Denver? So that's the post
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I am looking at right now. You know it's I
do catastrophic injury and death's work. I don't do a
free speech work. And that's a fine art that there
are some people out there, you know, Christy Burton Brown's
a constitutional lawyer. You have some people on the left
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disagree with me politically on everything, who are just just
fighters for freedom of speech, etc. Who might take a
look at this, you know, Kusera, Muhamma Bai, David Lane,
et cetera. Again, polar opposite for me politically, but devoted
to freedom of speech issues. If this is what I
suspect it is and cannot prove, I think if I
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had subpoena power, I think I'd eventually be able to
prove it. But if this is the Johnston administration using
this media outlet to try to silence critics for their
political viewpoint, maybe there's something there on the federal civil
rights side.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
I don't know what's worse, Dan, that the Johnson administration
felt audacious enough to make such a request at that
iver posed, or that the Denver Post were such willing
accomplices and going along with it and carrying water for
the Johnson administration.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
If that's what came down right, and in this allegation,
that's the allegation. And this is one of those times, well,
every day is one of those times. I'd love to
have subpoena power, right, because when you're fighting for right,
and you're fighting for the right side of something, that's
subpoena power. The ability to put people under oaths and
get to the truth. Now, that is core Americana right there.
(08:42):
And wouldn't you love to just have subpoena power on
this one?
Speaker 5 (08:45):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Because if it is what I suspect it is, it's
one of the worst things I've ever seen in Colorado,
and what else could it be? Right? I mean, I
can't prove it with direct devidy without subpoena power. But
I'd love to know what other conclusions people draw from this.
I'd love to have the post common with us and
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talk about this three oh three someone three eight two
five five text d An five seven seven three nine,
And I'd love your suggestions also on very concrete ways
that we can support do better Denver, which has really
succeeded at a very high level. Otherwise they don't think
these kind of attacks would be happening. How can we
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take them? Multiple levels? How can we level up multiple
levels higher now to show support and to fight back
against what's being done wrong to them? Here you're on
the Dankapla Show.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
And now back to the dan Kaplas Show podcast?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Or is that how you intae? That's good?
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Oh? Yeah with that? Yeah, yeah, that was the one
laugh I could be sure of, you know when when
we used to do like a lot of charity MC
stuff and Hi, I'm Amy Spoor and I'm Dan Spore.
It was the last laugh I'd get every vet right,
but it was sure fire.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
It was money three or three seven three eight two
five five text d A N five seven seventh three nine.
A lot of things going on. Should the critter liver
or die? We're talking about the mountain lion that ate
the dog off the leash as the pup was being
walked through North Boulder. They caught the mountain lion thumbs
up or down there talking about poor people in Colorado.
(10:29):
Polis now says you can't use your food stamps for
Coca cola, right or wrong? That obviously raises lots of
other issues. The Denver posts going after this site do
better Denver that exposes failings of the Johnston administration going
after him an outing three women just that totally private
people just submitting public records requests. So you talk about
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you talk about a compliment to do better Denver. But
not funny when these women say they're worried abouts and
the Post publishes their name anyway and says, hey, your
partial public figures just for doing your public records requests. Wow,
new term, partial public figures. Never heard that one before,
Probably never hear it again because nobody can say it
with the straight face. How are you a partial public figure?
(11:16):
I ask Alexi, who's one of the toughest Tombrusses. I
know it might be one. How are you a partial
public figure?
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Now?
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Alexa is in here right now. It's like a naked
gun scene, right because we got to or a combination
a naked gun and Monty Python. I think I count
one working limb. She's got this huge neck brace on
straight out of surgery. They didn't take your IV out
and yeah, yeah, so sprainer now and then I whack
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her in the head when I pulled the box down
off the shelf. But so Alexa explained to us, Please,
how even conceptually for a million dollars we're in a
game show. How can anybody be a partial public figure
as the Post has now labeled these poor women just
working privately to submit public records requests? How does that
make you a partial public figure?
Speaker 5 (12:06):
I will say that those on the left are have
an incredible capacity to make up new words and redefine words,
and then that helps move the needle. So they just
make up things, and it's like my truth versus the truth.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Like when people figure out abortions really the killing of
an incent human life, it becomes reproductive freedom exactly. Not
so you don't much have freedom for the baby. Seven
and fifty thousand females they kill each hair put. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
Yeah, So when they change words and change meanings, then
people aren't against So yeah, saying it's female reproductive health
much different than saying I'm killing my baby.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
That's when you know you're on the wrong side of
a cause. When you've got to change your name to
be able to keep fighting for that cost, that's what
you here on the wrong side, right. Oh yeah, And
I've never been too hung up on that. What was
his name before Schultz?
Speaker 5 (13:14):
Jared?
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Oh yeah, because his parents what a tremendous success story
they are, and My guess is they disagree with me politically,
but they just like mom and pop built this great
greeting car company, right, that's a great American story. Yep. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
And then he did I believe it was one eight
hundred flowers. Yeah, made a bundle off of that.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
I remember when that was a very awkward moment when
I could no longer endorse him. Yes, and it had
nothing today it was called pro flowers, Yes, pro flowers,
and it had nothing to do with Polis involvement. I
don't think I even knew he was involved, but it
was just heartbreaking. I got this call, I think it
was a call one day from this guy who said
he'd saved up all his money to get these flowers
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for this I can't remember super special occasion and they
are dead, and it just broke my heart. I just
couldn't couldn't endorse them. But yeah, so anyway, I digress.
But yeah, no, they're right. They can't win on truth,
so then they have to resort to intimidation and all
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this politics of personal destruction and saying, if you don't
agree to tell this lie that that woman is really
a man, then you're going to get banished from civilized society,
all that stuff, right, I think people are sick of that.
I bet this helps do better Denver a lot. I
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hope it does.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
You know, I've watched that account for at least two years.
I will say the numbers are up. I would love
to see them even further and if libs of TikTok
and some other national accounts can repost. I just saw
another post. I can't remember the count, but Denver's getting
in the headlines and not going to.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
For all the wrong reasons until football season. I can tell.
I was listening to a spot I'm doing the show
in Denver today and on six pointy ketch W they
had a Dave Logan spot for my law firm, and
it was talking about how we're the official firm of
the Nuggets and Apps. I've never been more excited for
a sports season between Broncos is sending Nuggets Avalanche starting
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in September in this town. It's that this could be
like the greatest year ever. Let's help. Yeah, Yeah, lots
to look forward to. Three oh three someone three eight,
two five five the number Dan. If you want to
coke get a job that is a texture probably sums
up the thoughts of many And again, very briefly, why
(15:42):
I disagree with with Polis and the Trump administration now
telling poor people on food stamps they can't use them
for coke is it's it's inconsistent. And any time you're
going to, as a government infringe on freedom, then I
think you have to be very consistent and have a
compelling reason. And that the Polish food stamp program in Colorado,
you can buy ice cream, but you can't get a coke,
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so you get it. And there's also the dignity of
the poor, right, assuming folks truly qualify for this, the
poor kid can't have a coke. Yeah. And again, if
the government's just gonna say, hey, only the basics, only
the basics, just the stuff you need to stay alive
when it comes to food, then they're being consistent, right,
But this, there's no consistency there. And does anybody believe
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Jared Polis. I do believe in a lot that RFK
Junior is doing. I do believe in his sincerity, but
with Polish opposite end of the spectrum. Does any believe
buddy believe Jared Polis wants to stop with poor people's
coca cola? Yeah? I don't think so. Is it gonna
be able to pry that coke out of your cold
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dead hands? There?
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Rhyme, Oh, Charlton Heston action there.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Yeah, I don't know. Do you drink coke? I've talked
about this a little.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
I drink Coke zero, but I haven't bought it. I'm
trying to follow the Dan Caplis model. Been drinking a
lot of iced tea that I make.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Myself water for life, man, water for like an Arnold Palmer. Yeah,
I'm sure it's great. I'm sure all of that's great.
I just don't do it. I just do water.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Okay, that's smart, smart self, just do water.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
And hey, when we come back, Mike o'donald talking about
some really disturbing economic numbers in Colorado.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
After I try this next case, I've got a month
on Jerry trial coming up in September. At a bunch
of trials lately, I'm one of another trial for about
six weeks, maybe two months. I am growing my hair long.
I'm just gonna grow my hair long. Wow, grow the
beard out, Dan, Yeah, just just have kind of a
fun six weeks and then I can shave again for trial,
get a haircut.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Are you going to get the mullet going?
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Never been a big mullet guy. It looks great on
some people, just not me, Just not me, but maybe
on Mike o'donald our next guest, Mike, Welcome back to
the Dane Kaplis Show.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
Thank you so much, Dan, and I do not have
a mloday, but thanks for asking.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Have you ever had a mullet?
Speaker 6 (18:12):
I've never had a mullet.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Ever thought about a mullet.
Speaker 6 (18:15):
Well, I've seen them from a far, but it's never
been something that's been my personal ambition. But you never know.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
No, I get it, I get it, Tomato, Tomato. But Mike,
as so often happens, one of your tweets caught my
attention today, and Mike has this tweet up. Colorado is
in creating jobs. Colorado is creating unemployment accompanied by charts.
So take the ball and run, my friend. What's going
on here?
Speaker 6 (18:42):
Well, you know I've spent most of my working life
in that song you blight actually a Parker. I think
you're having a d get me about getting a job,
But I've mostly work with small businesses in Colorado, So
I study the economy, and it's been more challenging for
small businesses of life. So as I do into the numbers,
you know, nationwide, you know, unemployment started increasing in January
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twenty twenty three, when all the stimulus money sort of
ran out. In Colorado, we started four months earlier than that,
so we started seeing an increase in unemployment in August.
And what happened at the federal field and to a
certain extent in Coronado, is that we shored up employment
by creating more government jobs. And so Colorado hasn't really
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grown much in January of twenty three, and most of
the job growth in Colorado, which you know, we have
a very small percentage growth compared to the rest of
the nation, but most of the job growth in Colorado
has been in three sectors. It's mostly the government, either
the state government or the local government, although we have
actually added federal government jobs since then. And then it's
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also in healthcare, and it's also in restaurants and bars.
So you know, two of the sectors aren't really sustainable
for the future generators of jobs or good jobs in this state.
And I question whether we've probably reached capacity in healthcare
here in the state as well, given our population is
pretty static and perhaps in some cases even declining. So
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I just think that in the Great Recession, the last
big recession in Colorado had a very diversified workforce. We
were prepared for that recession even though we did that
was coming. Now we are not. We're heavily concentrated in
a couple of industries that are very, very vulnerable to
a downtown or a slide down to it. So Colorado
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is not going to do what it did in two
thousand and eight, two thousand and nine. It's going to
do what it did in two thousand and one, two
thousand and two next time we have a recession, which
may be sooner than many people think.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
How do we get to this point?
Speaker 6 (20:52):
I think it has a lot to do with our
friends and power and policies. I'm sure you've spoken in
the past about that Colorado Chambers from last year or
like this year that says Colorado is a second sixth
most heavily regulated state for businesses in the United States.
So we've increasingly become well, that's entrepreneurial. It's a word
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i'd use advisedly. But there's more regulations now than there
ever has been, and it just makes it harder for
most of the employment in the United States. Harford is
for business of license in ten employees, So it's just
harder and harder to have employees in Colorado. We've got
minimum wage lass, we've got paying sick time for part
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time people. We've got you know, mandatory retirement plans for
employees with five or one. But there's all sorts of
restrictions that just make it a little more expensive to
put people to be in business. And that's not creating
the jobs at the bottom end of the employment lad
but it's giving you know, unless you want to work
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in a bar and a restaurant, which tend to be
well playing and short term anyway, and unless you want
to work in a doctor's office or hospital. Those are
where most of the healthcare jobs are. And that we've
got an explosion of doctor's office summer's around. And other
than that, local government's on fire because I suppose the
property taxes all went up last year and they're wondering
what to do their money. And the state government's been
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spending a lot of money and hiring a lot of
people even though we have all these budget issues that
I'm sure you talk about Mike.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Let me ask you this, what would the idea spread
look like? What would the ideal Colorado economy in terms
of jobs look like.
Speaker 6 (22:35):
Well, at at the moment, you know, four out of
every five new jobs in the last thirty months has
been in either government, healthcare, or bars and restaurants. We
proud ourselves on being, you know, a tech company, a
country estate. I should say, we have outdoor industry, we
have tourism. You know, there's just being more diversified, having
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a wonderful range of businesses, not all focused on you.
Because in Dinga, for example, is that of a lot
of people in the last and a half years, and
now they're starting to let them all go. And we
might see more of that at the state level potentially,
because these jobs come and go with the whims that
the jobs that are the most resilient in a state
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like Colorado are those small employers. The momenttop type businesses
see more entrepreneurial businesses at the bottom end tend off
your employees. Those jobs tend to be very sticky, and
we had a lot of those coming into the Great Recession.
I don't think we have as many of those now as.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
We as we did, Well, what do you say makes
total sense right with all this this you know, lefty
regulation type stuff, if you have a choice as to
where you're going to start your business. Yeah, I mean
that's going to weigh against Colorado.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
Well, when you look at the information about morel the
jobs are being created, again, it's it's it's in this
dates with percentage wise, where's my job here looking at it?
So when you look at where all the jobs are
being created, they are being in states as you probably imagine.
In Texas has sounds like a five point six percent
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increase in employment, and that's a big state. And then
you've got Nevada and you haven't forbid the district of Columbia,
which is a pretty study state, but insteads and jobs
of all the politicians drop this spending money all the time.
So it's really you know, even Ida's South Dakota and
applim around out the top five. So we've got stakes
that are a little less as we say, looking wanting
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to tell you what's do all the time. Yeah, that's
absolutely our employers and employees to create economic opportunities in
this state.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Well, as always appreciate you coming on how can people
follow you? I know they I can't really describe your
charts while people are driving, or at people crashing into
light pulls all over the but how can people go
look at them for themselves?
Speaker 6 (25:03):
If you can find me easily on x just at
im o donll it's just my handle if that's the
correctlum and I just have a little Patreon page at
emo Donald too, but I'd be happy to share with
any chots. And I just have a big curiosity, so
I'm always going in different directions to try and say, well,
I'm curious to see what happens to You're not to
(25:24):
say that's what I do.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
It's a great way to live. He appreciate the time.
Speaker 6 (25:28):
Thank you very much, appreciating good luck with your trials.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Thank you my phone, appreciate it. Michael Donald kind enough
to join us. And it's one thing that's that's always
driven me crazy is how does the state like Colorado right?
Because we're all lottery winners here. I mean, it's God
created one of the most perfect places anywhere on the planet,
and how do we end up with half as many
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Fortune five hundred jobs, maybe even Fortune one hundred jobs
now as Minneapolis Saint Paul, right, I mean, and that's
no knock on them. I mean there they got the advantage.
It can ride the mosquitos to work, right. I mean
those things committed about one hundred pounds. But yeah, how
do we end up with half as many? I mean,
this is a state blessed with so many advantages that
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it'll be very very, very very hard for the left
to wreck it completely. But think about how low our
standards have gotten with everything we've been given. Here Morris
expective of those two more has given right, It's biblical.
With everything we've been given, we should be soaring. We
we should be the model for the world, and here
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we are fighting for scraps because of leftist rule. You're
on the Dankplas Show.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
And now back to the dan Kaplass Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
So michae o'donald joined us in the last segment. Jimmy
Singenberger earlier great piece in the Denver Gazette about the
post hit job I think is a fair descript and
do Better Denver, So please go out there and support
do Better Denver in every way you can many, many,
many texts about Governor Polos saying the poor people in Colorado,
know coke for you if you're trying to buy it
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with food stamps, and why I disagree with him and
with the Trump administration on that. Texter Dan, I really
want to start a small business, but because of the
minimum wage, the math doesn't math for me. I would
need I just can't make a profit. And you know,
this goes to a great point. I was having that
conversation with Mike o'donald about the Colorado job situation right
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now and how you know it isn't very healthy, and
he was talking about how all of this regulation is
making it very very hard for people to maintain their
small businesses, which are literally the backbone of the economy.
But it goes to this Texter's point. I think it
also discourages all this regulation. I think it discourages people
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from making that big leap, right. I remember when I
made that big leap from working for a law firm
to starting my own law firm, and you're just boy,
it literally it's coming down to every penny. And so
you add on these layers of regulation and cost and difficulty.
I wonder how many people just don't make that don't
make that big step because of all of that great
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point Texter, Dan, do you Ryan and Kelly? I didn't
want to say I miss calling into you. Oh man,
it says the reason why I don't call in anymore.
I have stage four lung cancer right and prostate very weak.
Oh man, I'm so sorry to hear that that's from
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our friend Eric. Did you guys know that?
Speaker 2 (28:45):
No, I was not aware that Eric was ill. Oh
my lord, that is so sfinitely send our.
Speaker 6 (28:53):
There.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Eric sent this tremendous picture of Eric and Craig Silverman
and me at some kind of event. I think it
was a pro Trump event back in those days, so
I honestly can't remember if there was ever. Yeah, I
think there was a time Craig was pro Trump, but
if that's a long time, I may be misremembering. But
(29:14):
it was such a wonderful picture, memories of great days. Dan,
I could not understand how to reach that person on X.
Please tell us the ex handle. Do you have Mike
O'donald's ex handle, handy, I.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Believe you said m o'donald. I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Yeah, but there are a million of them.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
No, no, no, no, you don't have the one. Okay,
your handle is unique to you.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Dan, there cannot be another at Dan kaplis okay, and
so Mike's is what I believe it's m o'donald, But
I'm applying over.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Here, okay, Okay, No, I know that you are, and
is that legal? Whatever it is?
Speaker 2 (29:46):
No, I don't have any drugs. That's not what I meant.
Oh okay, I'm just being a lot of things.
Speaker 6 (29:49):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
We do have mandatory drug testing, right right? Can you
imagine that's correct?
Speaker 2 (29:57):
M o'donald Alexi verifying Okay.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
If radio had drug testing.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
I'm not on the third floor here anyway.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Yeah, oh no, no am holy cow. Yeah, everybody would
pass right, Dan is so I may vary from floor
to floor. Dan, a couple of points. There are no
tweets anymore posts on X now you still call them tweets.
Sorry about that, texter or sorry about that? So specifically
(30:25):
at do Better Denver hosts an x account. Thank you
for cleaning up my terminology. Whether you are right or wrong, there,
yours sounds better. Dan, say you ask me for some money,
I say what for? You say for something unhealthy for me?
I don't care if it's crack, cocaine or coke. I'm
not giving you the money. Poor health choices should not
be funded by the people. Listen. I understand that rationale
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from people who want to say no, if somebody is
getting their food paid for by taxpayers, they can't be
doing unhealthy stuff. I understand the concept because the unhealthy
stuff then leads to increased costs for taxpayers. That logic
makes perfect sense to me. What does not make sense
is to set up a program, a true safety net program,
where you're infringing on freedom without that kind of logic.
(31:11):
Because Polus is now saying, Okay, poor kid, you can
have that coke on food stamps, but you can have
ice cream. No, that makes no sense. All I'm saying is,
if you're going to infringe on freedom, then you have
to have a compelling, consistent reason to do. If that's
all I'm saying. The other thing I'm saying is, does
anybody believe that police wants to stop with the poor
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kids coke? Yeah? Yeah, Dan, if another one, if you
want to coke, get a job, Dan. So Polus and
Kennedy are saying the same thing about the coke. But
you give Kennedy a pass and lay into Polis and
start spreading rumors about what you think his intentions are.
You don't even try to hide your bias. No, I
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don't even try to hide my logic, and my logic
is irrefutable. You look at the evidence and you can't
question the sincerity of OURFK. Junior on all this. And
I think he's doing a lot of good work. When
it comes to the US food supply, Polis, it's the opposite.
There is nothing. Can anybody give me a single fact
out there that would cause you to believe that he
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sincerely cares about these poor kids in their house. This
is the guy out there who's pushing dope on all
of Colorado, of all ages. You know, through these license
plates he makes available and brags about that, glorify dope
and everything else. What have you seen from Polis that
suggests he cares anything about the health of poor kids.
This is a spaismatic political play by him. Make some headlines.
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Poor kids can't have pop, but they can have ice cream.
And I'm fine with the poor kids have an ice cream, right.
What I'm not fine with is Polish and these other
lefties keeping poor kids stuck in a cycle of poverty.
And that's what these lefties are doing. You can liberate
these kids. You can liberate all people to prefer reach
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their full potential. Just have true school choice. Why do
you think you have a cycle of poverty. The only
reason you have a cycle of poverty is people can't
get the quality education to bust out of it. Why
can't they get the quality education because Jared Polus and
Michael Bennett and John Hick and Looper, they stand in
the schoolhouse store. They stand in your way because they
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care more about the money and boots on the ground
from the teachers' union than they do your children in
their future. That's the undeniable reality. And then Polis wants
to cry his crocodile tears about how cokes hurting poor kids.
That's garbage. Can't wait for tomorrow? Well, thank you, Ryan
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cand Alexa in for Kelly. Wow, she is so tough. Right,
looks like the neck brace weighs ten pounds when with
surgery this morning. That's impressive. I can't believe Thursday already tomorrow.
Please join us then on the Dankapla Show.
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topics today right the American Way now quite the opposite
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with the Denver Post doing to do better Denver. We
talked to Jimmy Sangenberger about his great piece in the
Denver Gazette on that will continue that conversation, some great
text rolling in and then the ongoing conversation about Polis
King Polis telling poor people in Colorado know you're on
food stamps. No coke for you, at least not with
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those food stamps. And unfortunately the Trump administration going along
with that. So that goes so many different directions. What
will continue to go down those tributaries? And then to me,
as a dog owner and lover who used to live
in North Boulder, this interest in question of whether you
let the Mountain lion live or die? Who took that
(01:03):
dog right off the leash and killed the dog? Somebody
was just walking through North's Boulder and they got the
Mountain Lion, So thumbs up or down on that critter
three O three seven to one three eight two five
five of the number text d A N five seven
seven three nine text her Dan, please ask for the
author referring to Denver Post to come on to your
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show for a conversation if he she isn't willing to
do so. It says a lot about Heshi and the
Denver Post DK in Broomfield. It is she, Shelley, Bradbury
and Kelly did extend the invitation. I understand as soon
as that story came out we have not had that accepted.
At this point, Dan, I don't know if the three
(01:46):
ladies were actually docks. Could you please tell us if
their names and addresses were published. Their names were published,
so I don't say docks, I say out it they
were outed. They wanted to be private. They told the
Post a we're afraid of getting threat if you publish
your names. And these aren't public figures. These are just
three ladies going about their lives who submit public records requests.
(02:08):
And the Post said, no, we're publishing your names. Even
though the Post acknowledged in the piece it meant they
may very well get threats, and the Post justified it
with some so called expert who said, yeah, they're partial
public figures and threats are part of the business. I'm paraphrasing,
but fairly yeah, extraordinary. Right, How does any sane person
view that as anything other than just rank intimidation based
(02:32):
on political viewpoint? Right? I mean, how do you view
that any other way? Form your own opinion. But I
think it's pretty clear what the Post is up to, Dan,
other than saying how horrible the Denver Post is. Can
these women do anything? Can they sue? Can anything be done? Ryan?
I have been really surprised at the persistence and number
of the folks texting and asking, you know, can they sue?
(02:56):
And I've done civil law now forty one years and
that is what I do. And so I've just been
wracking my brain because on a right and wrong level,
you know, this thing's off the charts, right, I mean
every bit of righteous your sense of righteousness, your sense
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of fairness, right and wrong, and deeply offended by what
the Post is done here. So every bone in my
body is telling me there should be a cause of action.
That's what they call a civil claim. When you do
have a righteous sue. There should be a cause of
action here, but at this point I haven't done the
deep dive research. I don't see what it is. I
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don't see what the cause of action would be here,
and it may be out there, and may be out there,
and if somebody can show it to me, I'll take
a hard look at it, because I think what was
done to these women is very, very wrong. But I
don't see it. I don't see the legal cause of
action here because there are so many things that somebody
can do that are just wrong and they violate all
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natural law, they violate basic decency, they violate journalistic standards,
and it doesn't mean that you can sue for it,
and I think this may well be one of those cases.
Now I understand the argument people are making on the
other side, which is, you know, the Posts chose to
make their name public, acknowledging that it may cause them
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to get threats. So would the Post then be responsible
if any action was taken against these women, And so
I understand why people are asking the question. My conclusion is,
I don't see the legal cause of action against the Post.
What I hope we see is I hope we see
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a lot of people rise up and a lot of
people support Do Better Denver and the work that these
women and others have been doing, because if it is,
if it is such a threat to the Johnston administration,
have the truth told about them, that this would now
be happening to these women, these private people they weren'tntil
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the Post outed them, then Yeah, I think we all
need to step up and support Do Better Denver in
every way we can. And I'm not saying it's perfect
or everything they've ever published is accurate. I have no clue, right,
I just know that that if the Post has gone
to these links to try to undermine them, then then
they must be doing something really right. And I've seen
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a lot of stuff they put out that looks accurate
and it exposes the Johnston Administration's failings in a very
effective way. Three h three Someone three eight two five
five text DA five seven seven through nine Ryan Update Us.
You had talked about on Ryan as a great show
two to four each afternoon in the Denver Market six
thirty Kitchen w You had been talking about a post
(05:55):
from Do Better Denver saying that they believe the Johnston
administration is behind this.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Yes, this is a.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Very interesting, enlightening and discouraging on some level, I guess
you'd have to say, but it says the following here
let me see here.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
I had it right in front of you. Actually there, dan.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Oh, I can I can pull it up capable of that?
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
They've been posting a lot today, as you may says.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
I'm quoting from Do Better Denver. I have been informed
that the Mayor's office were the ones that looked at
all the CORRA requests over the last two years and
tried to figure out who I am based on CORRA
requests and my post. The Mayor's office narrated down to
three names and fed the story to at Denver Post
and told their contact at the Post to Cora the
CORRA requests and hopes of outing me and getting the
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media and my followers to turn on me. The Mayor's
office said that at Mike Johnston wants to Do Better
Denver gone because I am ruining his narrative. Is it
legal for government officials to try to silence me via
doxing or engaging the Denver Post to do so? Yikes?
Is this legal? To Better Denver? So that's the post
(07:06):
I am looking at right now. You know it's I
do catastrophic injury and death's work. I don't do a
free speech work. And that's a fine art that there
are some people out there, you know, Christy Burton Brown's
a constitutional lawyer. You have some people on the left
(07:26):
disagree with me politically on everything, who are just just
fighters for freedom of speech, etc. Who might take a
look at this, you know, Kusera, Muhamma Bai, David Lane,
et cetera. Again, polar opposite for me politically, but devoted
to freedom of speech issues. If this is what I
suspect it is and cannot prove, I think if I
(07:47):
had subpoena power, I think I'd eventually be able to
prove it. But if this is the Johnston administration using
this media outlet to try to silence critics for their
political viewpoint, maybe there's something there on the federal civil
rights side.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
I don't know what's worse, Dan, that the Johnson administration
felt audacious enough to make such a request at that
iver posed, or that the Denver Post were such willing
accomplices and going along with it and carrying water for
the Johnson administration.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
If that's what came down right, and in this allegation,
that's the allegation. And this is one of those times, well,
every day is one of those times. I'd love to
have subpoena power, right, because when you're fighting for right,
and you're fighting for the right side of something, that's
subpoena power. The ability to put people under oaths and
get to the truth. Now, that is core Americana right there.
(08:42):
And wouldn't you love to just have subpoena power on
this one?
Speaker 5 (08:45):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Because if it is what I suspect it is, it's
one of the worst things I've ever seen in Colorado,
and what else could it be? Right? I mean, I
can't prove it with direct devidy without subpoena power. But
I'd love to know what other conclusions people draw from this.
I'd love to have the post common with us and
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talk about this three oh three someone three eight two
five five text d An five seven seven three nine,
And I'd love your suggestions also on very concrete ways
that we can support do better Denver, which has really
succeeded at a very high level. Otherwise they don't think
these kind of attacks would be happening. How can we
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take them? Multiple levels? How can we level up multiple
levels higher now to show support and to fight back
against what's being done wrong to them? Here you're on
the Dankapla Show.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
And now back to the dan Kaplas Show podcast?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Or is that how you intae? That's good?
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Oh? Yeah with that? Yeah, yeah, that was the one
laugh I could be sure of, you know when when
we used to do like a lot of charity MC
stuff and Hi, I'm Amy Spoor and I'm Dan Spore.
It was the last laugh I'd get every vet right,
but it was sure fire.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
It was money three or three seven three eight two
five five text d A N five seven seventh three nine.
A lot of things going on. Should the critter liver
or die? We're talking about the mountain lion that ate
the dog off the leash as the pup was being
walked through North Boulder. They caught the mountain lion thumbs
up or down there talking about poor people in Colorado.
(10:29):
Polis now says you can't use your food stamps for
Coca cola, right or wrong? That obviously raises lots of
other issues. The Denver posts going after this site do
better Denver that exposes failings of the Johnston administration going
after him an outing three women just that totally private
people just submitting public records requests. So you talk about
(10:55):
you talk about a compliment to do better Denver. But
not funny when these women say they're worried abouts and
the Post publishes their name anyway and says, hey, your
partial public figures just for doing your public records requests. Wow,
new term, partial public figures. Never heard that one before,
Probably never hear it again because nobody can say it
with the straight face. How are you a partial public figure?
(11:16):
I ask Alexi, who's one of the toughest Tombrusses. I
know it might be one. How are you a partial
public figure?
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Now?
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Alexa is in here right now. It's like a naked
gun scene, right because we got to or a combination
a naked gun and Monty Python. I think I count
one working limb. She's got this huge neck brace on
straight out of surgery. They didn't take your IV out
and yeah, yeah, so sprainer now and then I whack
(11:44):
her in the head when I pulled the box down
off the shelf. But so Alexa explained to us, Please,
how even conceptually for a million dollars we're in a
game show. How can anybody be a partial public figure
as the Post has now labeled these poor women just
working privately to submit public records requests? How does that
make you a partial public figure?
Speaker 5 (12:06):
I will say that those on the left are have
an incredible capacity to make up new words and redefine words,
and then that helps move the needle. So they just
make up things, and it's like my truth versus the truth.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Like when people figure out abortions really the killing of
an incent human life, it becomes reproductive freedom exactly. Not
so you don't much have freedom for the baby. Seven
and fifty thousand females they kill each hair put. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
Yeah, So when they change words and change meanings, then
people aren't against So yeah, saying it's female reproductive health
much different than saying I'm killing my baby.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
That's when you know you're on the wrong side of
a cause. When you've got to change your name to
be able to keep fighting for that cost, that's what
you here on the wrong side, right. Oh yeah, And
I've never been too hung up on that. What was
his name before Schultz?
Speaker 5 (13:14):
Jared?
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Oh yeah, because his parents what a tremendous success story
they are, and My guess is they disagree with me politically,
but they just like mom and pop built this great
greeting car company, right, that's a great American story. Yep. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
And then he did I believe it was one eight
hundred flowers. Yeah, made a bundle off of that.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
I remember when that was a very awkward moment when
I could no longer endorse him. Yes, and it had
nothing today it was called pro flowers, Yes, pro flowers,
and it had nothing to do with Polis involvement. I
don't think I even knew he was involved, but it
was just heartbreaking. I got this call, I think it
was a call one day from this guy who said
he'd saved up all his money to get these flowers
(13:56):
for this I can't remember super special occasion and they
are dead, and it just broke my heart. I just
couldn't couldn't endorse them. But yeah, so anyway, I digress.
But yeah, no, they're right. They can't win on truth,
so then they have to resort to intimidation and all
(14:17):
this politics of personal destruction and saying, if you don't
agree to tell this lie that that woman is really
a man, then you're going to get banished from civilized society,
all that stuff, right, I think people are sick of that.
I bet this helps do better Denver a lot. I
(14:38):
hope it does.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
You know, I've watched that account for at least two years.
I will say the numbers are up. I would love
to see them even further and if libs of TikTok
and some other national accounts can repost. I just saw
another post. I can't remember the count, but Denver's getting
in the headlines and not going to.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
For all the wrong reasons until football season. I can tell.
I was listening to a spot I'm doing the show
in Denver today and on six pointy ketch W they
had a Dave Logan spot for my law firm, and
it was talking about how we're the official firm of
the Nuggets and Apps. I've never been more excited for
a sports season between Broncos is sending Nuggets Avalanche starting
(15:22):
in September in this town. It's that this could be
like the greatest year ever. Let's help. Yeah, Yeah, lots
to look forward to. Three oh three someone three eight,
two five five the number Dan. If you want to
coke get a job that is a texture probably sums
up the thoughts of many And again, very briefly, why
(15:42):
I disagree with with Polis and the Trump administration now
telling poor people on food stamps they can't use them
for coke is it's it's inconsistent. And any time you're
going to, as a government infringe on freedom, then I
think you have to be very consistent and have a
compelling reason. And that the Polish food stamp program in Colorado,
you can buy ice cream, but you can't get a coke,
(16:06):
so you get it. And there's also the dignity of
the poor, right, assuming folks truly qualify for this, the
poor kid can't have a coke. Yeah. And again, if
the government's just gonna say, hey, only the basics, only
the basics, just the stuff you need to stay alive
when it comes to food, then they're being consistent, right,
But this, there's no consistency there. And does anybody believe
(16:28):
Jared Polis. I do believe in a lot that RFK
Junior is doing. I do believe in his sincerity, but
with Polish opposite end of the spectrum. Does any believe
buddy believe Jared Polis wants to stop with poor people's
coca cola? Yeah? I don't think so. Is it gonna
be able to pry that coke out of your cold
(16:49):
dead hands? There?
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Rhyme, Oh, Charlton Heston action there.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Yeah, I don't know. Do you drink coke? I've talked
about this a little.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
I drink Coke zero, but I haven't bought it. I'm
trying to follow the Dan Caplis model. Been drinking a
lot of iced tea that I make.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Myself water for life, man, water for like an Arnold Palmer. Yeah,
I'm sure it's great. I'm sure all of that's great.
I just don't do it. I just do water.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Okay, that's smart, smart self, just do water.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
And hey, when we come back, Mike o'donald talking about
some really disturbing economic numbers in Colorado.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
After I try this next case, I've got a month
on Jerry trial coming up in September. At a bunch
of trials lately, I'm one of another trial for about
six weeks, maybe two months. I am growing my hair long.
I'm just gonna grow my hair long. Wow, grow the
beard out, Dan, Yeah, just just have kind of a
fun six weeks and then I can shave again for trial,
get a haircut.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Are you going to get the mullet going?
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Never been a big mullet guy. It looks great on
some people, just not me, Just not me, but maybe
on Mike o'donald our next guest, Mike, Welcome back to
the Dane Kaplis Show.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
Thank you so much, Dan, and I do not have
a mloday, but thanks for asking.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Have you ever had a mullet?
Speaker 6 (18:12):
I've never had a mullet.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Ever thought about a mullet.
Speaker 6 (18:15):
Well, I've seen them from a far, but it's never
been something that's been my personal ambition. But you never know.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
No, I get it, I get it, Tomato, Tomato. But Mike,
as so often happens, one of your tweets caught my
attention today, and Mike has this tweet up. Colorado is
in creating jobs. Colorado is creating unemployment accompanied by charts.
So take the ball and run, my friend. What's going
on here?
Speaker 6 (18:42):
Well, you know I've spent most of my working life
in that song you blight actually a Parker. I think
you're having a d get me about getting a job,
But I've mostly work with small businesses in Colorado, So
I study the economy, and it's been more challenging for
small businesses of life. So as I do into the numbers,
you know, nationwide, you know, unemployment started increasing in January
(19:06):
twenty twenty three, when all the stimulus money sort of
ran out. In Colorado, we started four months earlier than that,
so we started seeing an increase in unemployment in August.
And what happened at the federal field and to a
certain extent in Coronado, is that we shored up employment
by creating more government jobs. And so Colorado hasn't really
(19:29):
grown much in January of twenty three, and most of
the job growth in Colorado, which you know, we have
a very small percentage growth compared to the rest of
the nation, but most of the job growth in Colorado
has been in three sectors. It's mostly the government, either
the state government or the local government, although we have
actually added federal government jobs since then. And then it's
(19:53):
also in healthcare, and it's also in restaurants and bars.
So you know, two of the sectors aren't really sustainable
for the future generators of jobs or good jobs in this state.
And I question whether we've probably reached capacity in healthcare
here in the state as well, given our population is
pretty static and perhaps in some cases even declining. So
(20:16):
I just think that in the Great Recession, the last
big recession in Colorado had a very diversified workforce. We
were prepared for that recession even though we did that
was coming. Now we are not. We're heavily concentrated in
a couple of industries that are very, very vulnerable to
a downtown or a slide down to it. So Colorado
(20:37):
is not going to do what it did in two
thousand and eight, two thousand and nine. It's going to
do what it did in two thousand and one, two
thousand and two next time we have a recession, which
may be sooner than many people think.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
How do we get to this point?
Speaker 6 (20:52):
I think it has a lot to do with our
friends and power and policies. I'm sure you've spoken in
the past about that Colorado Chambers from last year or
like this year that says Colorado is a second sixth
most heavily regulated state for businesses in the United States.
So we've increasingly become well, that's entrepreneurial. It's a word
(21:14):
i'd use advisedly. But there's more regulations now than there
ever has been, and it just makes it harder for
most of the employment in the United States. Harford is
for business of license in ten employees, So it's just
harder and harder to have employees in Colorado. We've got
minimum wage lass, we've got paying sick time for part
(21:35):
time people. We've got you know, mandatory retirement plans for
employees with five or one. But there's all sorts of
restrictions that just make it a little more expensive to
put people to be in business. And that's not creating
the jobs at the bottom end of the employment lad
but it's giving you know, unless you want to work
(21:55):
in a bar and a restaurant, which tend to be
well playing and short term anyway, and unless you want
to work in a doctor's office or hospital. Those are
where most of the healthcare jobs are. And that we've
got an explosion of doctor's office summer's around. And other
than that, local government's on fire because I suppose the
property taxes all went up last year and they're wondering
what to do their money. And the state government's been
(22:17):
spending a lot of money and hiring a lot of
people even though we have all these budget issues that
I'm sure you talk about Mike.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Let me ask you this, what would the idea spread
look like? What would the ideal Colorado economy in terms
of jobs look like.
Speaker 6 (22:35):
Well, at at the moment, you know, four out of
every five new jobs in the last thirty months has
been in either government, healthcare, or bars and restaurants. We
proud ourselves on being, you know, a tech company, a
country estate. I should say, we have outdoor industry, we
have tourism. You know, there's just being more diversified, having
(22:57):
a wonderful range of businesses, not all focused on you.
Because in Dinga, for example, is that of a lot
of people in the last and a half years, and
now they're starting to let them all go. And we
might see more of that at the state level potentially,
because these jobs come and go with the whims that
the jobs that are the most resilient in a state
(23:18):
like Colorado are those small employers. The momenttop type businesses
see more entrepreneurial businesses at the bottom end tend off
your employees. Those jobs tend to be very sticky, and
we had a lot of those coming into the Great Recession.
I don't think we have as many of those now as.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
We as we did, Well, what do you say makes
total sense right with all this this you know, lefty
regulation type stuff, if you have a choice as to
where you're going to start your business. Yeah, I mean
that's going to weigh against Colorado.
Speaker 6 (23:53):
Well, when you look at the information about morel the
jobs are being created, again, it's it's it's in this
dates with percentage wise, where's my job here looking at it?
So when you look at where all the jobs are
being created, they are being in states as you probably imagine.
In Texas has sounds like a five point six percent
(24:14):
increase in employment, and that's a big state. And then
you've got Nevada and you haven't forbid the district of Columbia,
which is a pretty study state, but insteads and jobs
of all the politicians drop this spending money all the time.
So it's really you know, even Ida's South Dakota and
applim around out the top five. So we've got stakes
that are a little less as we say, looking wanting
(24:39):
to tell you what's do all the time. Yeah, that's
absolutely our employers and employees to create economic opportunities in
this state.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Well, as always appreciate you coming on how can people
follow you? I know they I can't really describe your
charts while people are driving, or at people crashing into
light pulls all over the but how can people go
look at them for themselves?
Speaker 6 (25:03):
If you can find me easily on x just at
im o donll it's just my handle if that's the
correctlum and I just have a little Patreon page at
emo Donald too, but I'd be happy to share with
any chots. And I just have a big curiosity, so
I'm always going in different directions to try and say, well,
I'm curious to see what happens to You're not to
(25:24):
say that's what I do.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
It's a great way to live. He appreciate the time.
Speaker 6 (25:28):
Thank you very much, appreciating good luck with your trials.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Thank you my phone, appreciate it. Michael Donald kind enough
to join us. And it's one thing that's that's always
driven me crazy is how does the state like Colorado right?
Because we're all lottery winners here. I mean, it's God
created one of the most perfect places anywhere on the planet,
and how do we end up with half as many
(25:51):
Fortune five hundred jobs, maybe even Fortune one hundred jobs
now as Minneapolis Saint Paul, right, I mean, and that's
no knock on them. I mean there they got the advantage.
It can ride the mosquitos to work, right. I mean
those things committed about one hundred pounds. But yeah, how
do we end up with half as many? I mean,
this is a state blessed with so many advantages that
(26:15):
it'll be very very, very very hard for the left
to wreck it completely. But think about how low our
standards have gotten with everything we've been given. Here Morris
expective of those two more has given right, It's biblical.
With everything we've been given, we should be soaring. We
we should be the model for the world, and here
(26:36):
we are fighting for scraps because of leftist rule. You're
on the Dankplas Show.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
And now back to the dan Kaplass Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
So michae o'donald joined us in the last segment. Jimmy
Singenberger earlier great piece in the Denver Gazette about the
post hit job I think is a fair descript and
do Better Denver, So please go out there and support
do Better Denver in every way you can many, many,
many texts about Governor Polos saying the poor people in Colorado,
know coke for you if you're trying to buy it
(27:13):
with food stamps, and why I disagree with him and
with the Trump administration on that. Texter Dan, I really
want to start a small business, but because of the
minimum wage, the math doesn't math for me. I would
need I just can't make a profit. And you know,
this goes to a great point. I was having that
conversation with Mike o'donald about the Colorado job situation right
(27:37):
now and how you know it isn't very healthy, and
he was talking about how all of this regulation is
making it very very hard for people to maintain their
small businesses, which are literally the backbone of the economy.
But it goes to this Texter's point. I think it
also discourages all this regulation. I think it discourages people
(27:57):
from making that big leap, right. I remember when I
made that big leap from working for a law firm
to starting my own law firm, and you're just boy,
it literally it's coming down to every penny. And so
you add on these layers of regulation and cost and difficulty.
I wonder how many people just don't make that don't
make that big step because of all of that great
(28:20):
point Texter, Dan, do you Ryan and Kelly? I didn't
want to say I miss calling into you. Oh man,
it says the reason why I don't call in anymore.
I have stage four lung cancer right and prostate very weak.
Oh man, I'm so sorry to hear that that's from
(28:42):
our friend Eric. Did you guys know that?
Speaker 2 (28:45):
No, I was not aware that Eric was ill. Oh
my lord, that is so sfinitely send our.
Speaker 6 (28:53):
There.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Eric sent this tremendous picture of Eric and Craig Silverman
and me at some kind of event. I think it
was a pro Trump event back in those days, so
I honestly can't remember if there was ever. Yeah, I
think there was a time Craig was pro Trump, but
if that's a long time, I may be misremembering. But
(29:14):
it was such a wonderful picture, memories of great days. Dan,
I could not understand how to reach that person on X.
Please tell us the ex handle. Do you have Mike
O'donald's ex handle, handy, I.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Believe you said m o'donald. I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Yeah, but there are a million of them.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
No, no, no, no, you don't have the one. Okay,
your handle is unique to you.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Dan, there cannot be another at Dan kaplis okay, and
so Mike's is what I believe it's m o'donald, But
I'm applying over.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Here, okay, Okay, No, I know that you are, and
is that legal? Whatever it is?
Speaker 2 (29:46):
No, I don't have any drugs. That's not what I meant.
Oh okay, I'm just being a lot of things.
Speaker 6 (29:49):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
We do have mandatory drug testing, right right? Can you
imagine that's correct?
Speaker 2 (29:57):
M o'donald Alexi verifying Okay.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
If radio had drug testing.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
I'm not on the third floor here anyway.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Yeah, oh no, no am holy cow. Yeah, everybody would
pass right, Dan is so I may vary from floor
to floor. Dan, a couple of points. There are no
tweets anymore posts on X now you still call them tweets.
Sorry about that, texter or sorry about that? So specifically
(30:25):
at do Better Denver hosts an x account. Thank you
for cleaning up my terminology. Whether you are right or wrong, there,
yours sounds better. Dan, say you ask me for some money,
I say what for? You say for something unhealthy for me?
I don't care if it's crack, cocaine or coke. I'm
not giving you the money. Poor health choices should not
be funded by the people. Listen. I understand that rationale
(30:47):
from people who want to say no, if somebody is
getting their food paid for by taxpayers, they can't be
doing unhealthy stuff. I understand the concept because the unhealthy
stuff then leads to increased costs for taxpayers. That logic
makes perfect sense to me. What does not make sense
is to set up a program, a true safety net program,
where you're infringing on freedom without that kind of logic.
(31:11):
Because Polus is now saying, Okay, poor kid, you can
have that coke on food stamps, but you can have
ice cream. No, that makes no sense. All I'm saying is,
if you're going to infringe on freedom, then you have
to have a compelling, consistent reason to do. If that's
all I'm saying. The other thing I'm saying is, does
anybody believe that police wants to stop with the poor
(31:32):
kids coke? Yeah? Yeah, Dan, if another one, if you
want to coke, get a job, Dan. So Polus and
Kennedy are saying the same thing about the coke. But
you give Kennedy a pass and lay into Polis and
start spreading rumors about what you think his intentions are.
You don't even try to hide your bias. No, I
(31:53):
don't even try to hide my logic, and my logic
is irrefutable. You look at the evidence and you can't
question the sincerity of OURFK. Junior on all this. And
I think he's doing a lot of good work. When
it comes to the US food supply, Polis, it's the opposite.
There is nothing. Can anybody give me a single fact
out there that would cause you to believe that he
(32:15):
sincerely cares about these poor kids in their house. This
is the guy out there who's pushing dope on all
of Colorado, of all ages. You know, through these license
plates he makes available and brags about that, glorify dope
and everything else. What have you seen from Polis that
suggests he cares anything about the health of poor kids.
This is a spaismatic political play by him. Make some headlines.
(32:39):
Poor kids can't have pop, but they can have ice cream.
And I'm fine with the poor kids have an ice cream, right.
What I'm not fine with is Polish and these other
lefties keeping poor kids stuck in a cycle of poverty.
And that's what these lefties are doing. You can liberate
these kids. You can liberate all people to prefer reach
(33:00):
their full potential. Just have true school choice. Why do
you think you have a cycle of poverty. The only
reason you have a cycle of poverty is people can't
get the quality education to bust out of it. Why
can't they get the quality education because Jared Polus and
Michael Bennett and John Hick and Looper, they stand in
the schoolhouse store. They stand in your way because they
(33:20):
care more about the money and boots on the ground
from the teachers' union than they do your children in
their future. That's the undeniable reality. And then Polis wants
to cry his crocodile tears about how cokes hurting poor kids.
That's garbage. Can't wait for tomorrow? Well, thank you, Ryan
(33:42):
cand Alexa in for Kelly. Wow, she is so tough. Right,
looks like the neck brace weighs ten pounds when with
surgery this morning. That's impressive. I can't believe Thursday already tomorrow.
Please join us then on the Dankapla Show.
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