February 25, 2025 • 35 mins
Allison Browner provides final insights on Dan's questions regarding the exploding child grooming scandal story at Columbine High School.
Jeff Crank (R-CO 5) provides an update on the latest before the 119th U.S. Congress, including efforts to pass President Trump's desired 'big, beautiful bill.'
Jeff Crank (R-CO 5) provides an update on the latest before the 119th U.S. Congress, including efforts to pass President Trump's desired 'big, beautiful bill.'
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
We've all got to fight together on this one across
party lines. Everybody in the state should want the same
thing here, the full truth and for this to never
happen again. And the mother who says that her young
fifteen year old daughter, star student, star athlete was targeted
by a female teacher at Columbine, groomed by that teacher
for years, more than twenty thousand texts, and you're hearing
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much more about the story today from Alison Brown or
the mother of the child will join us next Monday
in studio. Before we go back to Allison, let's go
to the phone lines talk with Joanne tells us she's
a retired teacher from the Jeffco School District.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Joanne, Welcome to The Dan Caplis Show.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Hey, jan this just makes my stomach learn because this
is not what education is about. It's not what I
was about when I was teaching in Jetco. I retired
four years ago, and I like to say I got
out when I couldn't take it anymore.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
What do you mean by that?
Speaker 4 (01:20):
The wokeism that was coming in that was, you know,
encouraging the transgender ideology, the thing that we had to
be more sensitive about students' feelings rather than about them
knowing content, about holding students accountable for content knowledge. And
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I saw it as this was the slippery slopes that
I was not willing to die on.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
And did you see inappropriate things happening between teaching and students?
Speaker 4 (02:03):
I personally did not. I found out later after I
retired that there were some things that happened after I retired,
and they made minor headlines in Colorado, but really nothing
beyond that.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Yeah, in this business, and Alison Browner's with us, we're
going to jump back to that and get and keep
going through the timeline of trying to have a student
declared homeless so she could move in with another student,
and then the principal telling the parents that this teacher
had been helping students navigate their sexuality.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Had you heard of it? What's that?
Speaker 4 (02:52):
No? No, I would have been all over that. I
worked with a special population and I worked with speech
language pathologists, and it's like, no, this is totally inappropriate.
And all I can say is that principle is probably
is inexperienced and just kind of go with the flow,
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go along to you know, not make waves. But yeah, no,
my four kids graduated from COLUMNNE and I will tell
you this, when Frank DeAngelis was principal. Oh yeah, this
death would not absolutely happen. Red flags all along on
the way. And I was a mandatory reporter, as every
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teacher is a mandatory reporter, and for them to sweep
this under the carpet, it makes me sick.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Yeah, and did you witness any grooming when you were there,
because here we're hearing these reports of twenty more than
twenty thousand texts between the teacher and this young girl.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
I did not witness groomy. But then again, my high
school was pretty much forthcoming, and yeah, ran the straight
and narrow until I found out after I retired that
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something's happened because of let me say personnel, children were
involved because they were students.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Wow, well I just I mean, I think anybody listening
to this story cannot imagine how all these people still
have their jobs everybody's wondering why why haven't we seen
any criminal prosecutions? Again, innocent until proven guilty, but it's
mind blowing, and well, thank you, thank you for your
service as a teacher, and thanks for the call today.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
Thank you, And I know it. There is no reason.
And the red flag the first road flat should have
been why is the speech language pathologist having anything to
do with a four point zero plus student when they're
not on their paceload, Because in my experience, the speech
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language pathologists have a full paceload. They have to worry
about their own students. How did she have time to
outside her realm to seek the student out?
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Yeah, no, great, great question. Thank you for that.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
And that brings us right back to Alison Browner. If
you've just joined us, thank you. Allison started with us
at about four point thirty six. You can hear that
first part on the podcast. And she is a parent
in that school district as well with their own concerns,
but a former private investigator and has done a deep
dive into the sheriff's reports on this and some other documents.
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So we've been reviewing the timeline with her and I
won't repeat that here. We may loop back and summarize
a couple of points. But Ellison, we were at the
point in the story when we went to that news
break where you had already described how you have this
fifteen year old girl, star student, star athlete from this great,
very solid, stable home. The mother involved at school had
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another child at the school, and then all of a sudden,
this female teacher is taking an interest in this star
fifteen year old more than twenty thousand text The teacher
who is texting the student tens of thousands of times,
is then going to a speech pathologist working with her
to try to have the target student declared homeless so
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she could be pulled out of the great home she's
in and put in with this other teacher. And then
we're getting to the point of the story where the
parents and the mother will be with me in studio
next Monday, then go to meet with the principal.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Can you pick it up from there, Allison.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
Yeah, So the principal, excuse me, the parents started having suspicions,
as we've already discussed, and they actually meet with Jeff Coach,
Sheriff's deputies, who get all of the information and let
them know that currently at that point. They didn't have
anything actionable right at that second, but they told the
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parents to meet with school administration immediately. And keep in mind,
going back in the timeline, the mother has already found
some documentation that the daughter and this teacher is in
a relationship, and she has already contacted the teacher and
said stop texting my daughter, leave my daughter alone. And
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in the Jeff Coach Sheriff's report, it does indicate that
all of these school officials were aware that the mother
texted the predator teacher, and yet nobody asked any questions
about that. They didn't say, what is going on and
why is this mom texting this teacher?
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Well, wait a second, at this point, did everybody, including
law enforcement know about the what is it? Twenty four
thousand texts?
Speaker 5 (08:04):
So this is a little bit before law enforcement was involved. Okay,
but you know, the teachers, if I guess, I'm trying
to put myself in a principal principal's hat and principal shoes,
and if one of my teachers gets a text from
a parent saying, don't talk to my daughter anymore, that's
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going to raise red flags for.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Me, right thousand percent.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
But at this point had the principle also been aware
that they were trying to have the student declared homeless,
this student.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Who had a home.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
So what we know is that the principle was given,
at his request, bi weekly updates, So twice a week
from the beginning of April, he was given updates. We
I am not aware and I don't know for certain
whether or not he knew that they were filling out
this paperwork, but he knew that they were so concer
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concerned about this minor child that there was discussions going
on about she shouldn't be in her home. So I
have not sais done what exactly exactly? And again keep
in mind, you know, the counselor while she's referring this
child to the community liaison for this paperwork, she also
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has the younger sibling as one of her students, and
she does not pull that younger sibling in at any
point and say, hey, what's going on at home?
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Well, isn't the reason for that because she knew, well
that wasn't a problem at home.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
That would be my guess.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Yeah, And and I mean if you just joined us,
Alison detailed for us earlier that the people filling out
these forms to try to have this star student and
athlete declared homeless so she could move in with the teacher.
At the same time, this other teacher who's targeted the
fifteen year oldest center twenty thousand texts. They never call
the parents, They never talked to the parents, they never
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call protective services. Right, So, if they really thought this
child had an unstable home life, don't you think they
would have done that? I mean, was this all just
one big plan to make this target student more accessible
to the teacher wantedor.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
It certainly seems like it. I don't know any other explanation,
And that would be to.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Be one of the sickest things in Colorado history, in
the history of education in Colorado. And when you think
about this courageous mom who has spoken out, and then
people like you and Lindsay dot Cow and all of
those who have fought to make this public, how many
of these horrible situations, how they're out there where the
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student doesn't have that, where the student doesn't have somebody
to stand up for them and try to make it
public and fight for them and try to get the
child back from the predator teacher.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
And that's what we're really concerned about and that for
the mom and the family, they don't want this to
happen to another child, right, And I know you know
the last caller there was some political statements in there,
and just for full transparency, I am a left leaning
independent and I support LGBTQ plus rights, but I think
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you can have LGBTQ plus rights without taking the rights
of parents away. And that's what's an issue a lot
of these cases.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Well, hell yes, And if this was an LGBTQ thing,
that then what you've got here If and I have
no idea if this young girl who is targeted is
that or not, But if she was, then you've got
abuse of an LGBTQ person, an LGBTQ minor. So this
is something all colorad and should be able to unite on.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Can you stay one more segment, Alison? Yes, want to
come back in detail.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
What happens then when the parents meet with the principal
and how was the principal still there? And why haven't
we heard anything from the DA here on the Dan
Kapla Show.
Speaker 6 (12:05):
And now back to the Dan Kapla Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Every Colorado needs to be insisting on answers here the
full truth on the table. What happened at Columbine. Everything
I've heard must never be allowed to happen again. Alison Brown,
are with us drilling down the mother of the student,
who has now told the New York Post her child
was groomed at Columbine by a teacher center more than
twenty four thousand texts and then quote unquote, she took
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her The mother will join us next Monday in studio.
Allison's done some deep dive research into publicly available reports, etc.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
So, Allison, we're at the point in the.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Story now where the parents are a meeting with the
principal at Columbine, Scott Christy, Is that correct?
Speaker 3 (12:47):
That's correct? What happens in that meeting?
Speaker 5 (12:50):
So in that meeting, the principal reportedly tells the parents that, again,
as you mentioned earlier, this particular teacher takes a special
interest in helping students navigate their sexuality, and obviously the
parents took issue with that.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Can we stop there for a second. So you've got
a principle telling the parents that the teacher takes an
interest in helping students navigate their sexuality. And this is
the teacher now who has texted the student more than
twenty thousand times and is working with another teacher to
get the student declared homeless.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Correct, it's hard, yeah, it's hard to even process this.
Please go ahead.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
So then, you know, the parents start asking questions. They
want to know what exactly the principal knew, and he acknowledges,
according to the jeff Coe Sheriff's report, that he was
aware that their minor child was not happy with her
home life, and the parents asked him, well, then why
didn't you call us? Why didn't you notify us? Right,
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And he did have an answer. He reportedly replied, that's
a good question.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
And then but he does hef to assuming knows the
answer right, right, right. I don't know him personally, but
I'm sure he's not an idiot. He's done some things
I can't even fathom, according to these reports, but he's
certainly an intelligent person.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
He must know the answer to that question.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
And then you know, they also ask whether it's acceptable,
because by this time they are aware they have found
the paperwork declaring their child who's not homeless, declaring their
child homeless, and so they ask Principal Christy, you know,
is it acceptable for a student to move in with
a teacher, because keep in mind, this particular student did
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not move in with a predatory teacher first. She first
moved in with a speech pathologist. So that adds a
whole layer of complexity to the story because had that
not happen, maybe she never would have gotten to the
predators teacher. So they asked the principal and said, is
it acceptable for a student to move in with the
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teacher while still enrolled? And he reportedly stated yes, this
teacher has done it before with another homeless student.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Oh my lord.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
They confirmed it with their legal team, to which the
mother replied, but my child is not homeless.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Right, and it's I just sit here thinking, as a parent,
your absolute worst nightmare, other than having your child pass away,
is having somebody take your student, take your child. Yeah,
so you've got your telling me you've got these people
in official capacities at Columbine sitting around talking about how
to take this child away from the parent.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
And again, my report that you have reviewed is based
on the Jeff Coch Sheriff's narrative.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Right right now, I understand you weren't there and I
wasn't there, and innocent until proven guilty in all of that.
But the facts I understand you to be reporting from
from the sheriff's workup is that there was an official
at Columbine who signed this form saying this child was
homeless when this child was not homeless. School had never
spoken to the parents about this. She had a brother
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in the school, She's a star student and athlete, right,
I mean, that's how.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
This came down. That's all correct.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
So it was in the sorry and the teacher you've
described as the predatory teacher had been involved in trying
to get this child declared homeless so she could be
moved out of her home, away from her parents and
put in this other teacher's home.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Exactly.
Speaker 7 (16:31):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
Yep, and Dan, you should know I personally emailed the
Attorney General's office. I was so infuriated with this case
and am so angry about this. I personally emailed several
people within the Attorney General's office, including those that are
in charge of his state services area. And I did
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receive a response, so they are aware of this case.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
And the momster response. They asked if.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
We wanted to have a phone call, and I asked
for a meeting, and we have not since heard.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
And that one you would think a while ago, what
could be more important in their inbox right than this? Right?
Because you've got, first of all, this precious child who's
been a victim of all this. Then you have her
wonderful parents and family who have for now at least
lost their child. And then you have the obvious question
of how.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Many more are there?
Speaker 2 (17:25):
I mean, if it wasn't for people like this courageous
mom and Lindsay, Dad Coow and you and others, we
wouldn't know about this story.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
How many more are there out there?
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Because don't predators normally pray on the most vulnerable who
don't have anybody to cry out to and nobody will
ever hear them scream?
Speaker 3 (17:43):
How many more are there?
Speaker 5 (17:46):
Sadly, I think we're afraid there are many more.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Yeah, Okay, great job on this, Ellison. I hope we
can talk again soon. And as you know, the mother
of the child will be with us in studio next Monday,
so let's stay in touch on this. Thank you for
your great work, Thanks for thank you. Wow, We're going
to stay all over this and when we come back,
Congressman Jeff Crank will join us, and hey, we'll get
his take.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
On President Trump.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Now talking about selling these gold cards five million dollars
to get legal status in the US.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
You're on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 6 (18:25):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplas Show. Podcast.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Got to crank it up.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Put so much pressure on everybody in charge that they
have to make the full truth known about what happened
to this student at Columbine. Ellison Browner joined us starting
at four thirty six. Say, if you get a chance
to listen to the podcast and get the latest update
the mother of the student twenty four thousand texts from
this teacher toward this young student before she then disappears
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with the teacher. The mother will join us in the
studio next Monday. Let's go to the VIP line and
welcome Jeff Krank. Great new congressman from Colorado. CD five
joins us on the Dan Kaplo Show.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Congressman, how you doing.
Speaker 7 (19:05):
I'm doing great, Dan. How are you well good?
Speaker 3 (19:07):
How do you like it?
Speaker 7 (19:09):
I love it? I love it? And you're going to
hear one of the trains passing by as I'm walking
back from the capital from a vote. We tried to
have a vote on the budget resolution, and I think
we're still working on a couple of Republicans to make
sure that they vote to support President Trump on the
budget resolution.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Now, you know, normally bills, as you know, have certain numbers.
We talked about HB this and that. But this one
is the big beautiful bill, right, this is the one
we're talking about.
Speaker 7 (19:38):
The one big beautiful bill. That's the one we're talking about.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Will be a lot more beautiful when it's passed. Is
it going to get passed?
Speaker 7 (19:46):
I think we're going to get there. You know, I
suspect we're maybe one or two members away from getting
it done. And you know, I'm the kind of person
that I decided early I'm going to support the president
on this a perfect It's not a perfect budget resolution.
Nothing here is perfect. You don't get to decide if
you're one of four hundred and thirty five. You don't
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get decided for everybody. It's the legislative body. As you know, Dan,
I'm on board. I think most of the Republicans in
Colorado are on board, and we just got to get
it done.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Congressman Jeff Cranker guests, now, does it how does it
work there?
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Jeff?
Speaker 2 (20:21):
I mean, it seems like on every one of these
big bills, you get like two or three Republicans who
are the holdouts, and then they're in all the headlines
for two or three days.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
And how does that work?
Speaker 2 (20:35):
How is it decided, you know, who's going to be
the holdout this time?
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Who's eventually going to come around? I mean? And is
there a price to be paid for that?
Speaker 7 (20:45):
Well, you hope there's a price to be paid for it.
I mean, you know, most I think most members try
to just be principles and try and understand the bigness
of the moment, you know, where we are right now
as a country, and understanding that it does to be
the same holdouts every time. It's the same four or
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five people. And I'll be honest with you, it's very frustrating,
I think when you know, again, I've only been here,
you know, for two months, But it's frustrating when you're
trying to do the right thing, trying to stick with
the president, and then you've got other people who, you know,
this seems like they are always trying to get that
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little extra bit of ink so that they can go
back to their district and say, oh, look kind of
either fold or they hold out.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
So yeah, well and your best bet at this point
is the bill will get passed.
Speaker 7 (21:40):
It will. I think it will. I think we'll get
it past here. Now, this is just the start of
the reconciliation process, right, so once this passes, the real
hard work then begins. And and you know, we got
a long way to go, but hopefully the President uses
his political capital, you know, to make sure that Republicans
stick with us.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Well, he's got a lot of that. He's got a
lot of that.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
And so once he gets it through the House, right
where you guys have what right now, maybe a one
member majority.
Speaker 7 (22:10):
Two member majority, yep, we can lose basically, could lose two.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
And then what are the prospects as you get into
the Senate, into this crazy reconciliation process, and how long
is that likely to take?
Speaker 7 (22:23):
Well, we'd like to have the whole thing done, you know, certainly,
certainly by May. I think, you know, the time is ticking.
I think the original goal is to have it all
done by April, you know, through the reconciliation process, completely done,
but you know, might slip into May. But we've got
to get it done soon. I mean, those tax cuts
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that you know are expiring, you know, we want people
we want the economy to roar, and we want it
to do it right away. We don't want to wait
and you know, have it take effect you know maybe
next year, late next year. We want it right away.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
So yeah, and we talked so much about the big
beautiful bill, but not what's in it so often.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
So what are the highlights?
Speaker 7 (23:07):
Well, I mean, all this thing does right now the
Budget Resolution does is it says, you know, it says
that the Ways and Means Committee is going to go
and extend the tax cuts that we're going to you know,
go find money in The Natural Resources Committee, for instance,
has to go find almost a trillion dollars nine hundred
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billion dollars. Now they're likely to do that by going
and you know, figuring out how to drill for oil
and natural gas on public land leases and things like that.
So it sets the sets us up as a country
to be able to go out and really reprioritize you know,
obviously we'd be spending more money on border security, on
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so many of these things, and it will increase defense
spending by about one hundred billion dollars.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Let me do a hard turn for a second.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Congressman Jeff crank Our guest, I don't know if you've
even seen this story. This afternoon, President Trump to offer him,
quoting Bloomberg, gold card visas for five million to the rich,
and that's Bloomberg spent on it. But as I understand
the President's proposal, it would be five million dollars to
get legal status in the US, and the intent would
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be to attract wealthy job creators while raising money for
the country.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Your take on that, well.
Speaker 7 (24:34):
I don't know. I mean, I guess it's fun for
us for a starting point, right for us to talk
about that, And you know, I don't know, I don't
know how I would react to that. I guess I just,
you know, just having heard it today, we can talk
about it. It's it's kind of like people I get
asked about birthright citizenship and I said, look, at least
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the President is throwing it out there and talking about it,
and I think that's a good thing, right.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
And Congressman, you know where I think people maybe misunderstand
the discussion on birthright citizenship because I ran into this
at the dinner table myself, is that when we talk
about and I don't know where you come down on this,
as I view it, just legally. I think there is
no chance whatsoever that the drafters intended that there be
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automatic citizenship to somebody born in the country of folks
here illegally. I mean, no matter what somebody thinks the
policy should be, I don't think there's any credible argument
that that's what the drafters intended. But I think where
the confusion arises is, Okay, I come home and we're
having dinner, and one of my family members was aghast
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because they thought I was saying that everybody who had
been made an American citizen to this point based on
birthright would lose their citizenship. And I'm not suggesting that
at all. I'm just suggesting we'd be honest about the
law and about the fact the intent never was to
create this automatic birthright citizenship and then move forward from there,
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but not revoke citizenship for everybody who already has it.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Right.
Speaker 7 (26:13):
Yeah, I totally agree that, like sort of, that's probably
a very good way to do it right and moving forward.
This is what was intended, right, and we just haven't
even had that discussion. So yeah, I think it's great that,
you know, President Trump has brought this up as an
issue and we're you know, we're working to, you know,
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work through that, and it's gonna have to work its
way through the course. This is an issue that's really
never been decided, and I think it's high time that
it is.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
And one of the things I really like about President
Trump is just the fresh thinking.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Okay. I mean this whole idea of.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Selling legal status for five million, two wealthy people who
then will be job creators. Here, it's a fresh idea,
right And now as I dive into it, maybe I
find something I don't like, But I just like the
fact he has these fresh ideas. And when a fresh
idea then hits, it can change a lot of things
in a hurry.
Speaker 7 (27:12):
Right, Yeah, it sure can, It sure can. And that's
that's one of the refreshing things I think right about
the President and what he's done over the last month.
I mean, he's shaken the system to a poor and
people don't like that. I understand. Change is uncomfortable, especially
when you know sort of violent change, you know, when
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it was the sort of violent shape the system, which
is which is what President Trump is doing right now.
But it's good. I think it's good for us to
figure that out. And by the way, let me just
tell you, Dan, this is how life of a member
of Congress goes. I left the floor, I called you,
walk back to my office. I walk in and they said,
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go back to the floor. You're going to bumb out
on the budget resolution. So get them we figured it out,
and I thought a few minutes, but they probably did
figure it out. My hope is that we will have
the votes to pass it tonight.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Well, I sure hope.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
So.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Hey, always great to talk to you. Of course, always
an open door here, So look forward to the next one.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Dan.
Speaker 7 (28:13):
I really appreciate you, thanks for all you do, and
anytime I can come on and talk with you, I'd
love to do it.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Thanks, Congressman, look forward to it. You take care, sir.
That's Congressman Jeff crank. Hey, when we come back, we
have a lot to talk about, right eight five five
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Speaker 3 (28:35):
You're on the Dan Kaplas Show.
Speaker 6 (28:37):
And now back to the Dan Taplas Show podcast.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Cover.
Speaker 8 (28:41):
Tony Egers of Wisconsin just tried to erase mothers institive.
Using the word mother. He crossed out mother and put
persons who are inseminated persons who can be insuminated, or
person who gave first, parent who gave first anything but
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say mother woman. Those are words he can't say because
the woke won't let him. Folk won't let us define
what a woman is. A biological female with a uterus
and two ovaries who gives birth to a child.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Only a woman can.
Speaker 8 (29:24):
That's a female. That's what I am. I'm a mom,
a mom of five kids in Wisconsin, and Governor Evers,
you are not going to erase me, and you are
not going to race all the moms in Wisconsin. You
are not going to erase women. We're not going to
let you.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
You know, I think America are enough of America is
starting to understand that the modern left, the modern Democratic Party,
is one big war on girls and women in so
many different ways. Before birth, right where their sacred cow
is this insane policy where you have what at least
six seven hundred thousand females a year killed before they're born,
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and then after that, the war on safe spaces for
girls and women, the war on sports for girls and women.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
You know, girls and women now I mean motherhood.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Obviously, it's one of the most impressive, grandest proudest things
in world history, and now it's being reduced to inseminated
person can't even say mother. I mean, there are just
so many ways it's a war on women. And I
think that's one of the reasons you start to see
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voters peeling off from the Democratic Party because as a
former Democrat, I can tell you so much of that
was voting based on habits, So much of that was
voting based on the negative stereotype of the GOP. So
much of that was based on maybe some good things
the Democratic Party did in the past, but the modern
Democratic Party, more and more people are getting hip to it.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
I think more and more women are.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Getting hip that it's one big war on girls and women.
Where is the respect for girls and women? I mean,
look at what's happening in Colorado, and this issue at
Columbine that we're spending so much time on is completely nonpartisan, bipartisan,
but we're always going to be honest and we cannot
ignore the fact we have a true crisis in Colorado
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when it comes to teachers sexually abusing students. And it's
a very small percentage, right, and the vast majority of
teachers are fantastic, but it's still a crisis, and yet
police ignores it, and Wiser ignores it. And you know
where's the DA in jeffco on this Columbine thing. We
cannot escape the reality that the Democratic Party is totally
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in bed with the teachers' union.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
And does that.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Explain why are democratically elected governor and attorney general. It
just seems so disinterested in this crisis we have of students,
many many, many of them female, being sexually preyed upon
by teachers. This should be a front and center crisis.
But the Democrats in control in Colorado.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Yeah, the irony right that they are obviously in bed
with the teachers' union, and you just have to believe
that is why they're not jumping on this. Here's an example, right,
Can you imagine? And I'm so grateful and proud to
be Catholic and we had this horrible thing happen in
our church where one of the worst things imaginable. You
had some priests who were sexually abusing children. That's straight
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out of hell. It's one of the worst things imaginable.
It's no reflection on priesthood as a whole. It was
a relatively small number, but even one is way too
much evil. Can you imagine replace the numbers right now
that we see in Colorado of students sexually abused by teachers.
Imagine if that was priest. You can bet Wiser and
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Polists they would be front and center every day. It
would be the number one crisis in the state. They'd
be pulling out every stop legally to absolutely make this
the centerpiece of everybody's attention. But because it's teachers and
police and Wiser in bed with the teachers' union, you
don't hear a peep from them one way or the other.
(33:16):
No matter who the purp is, it's evil and it's wrong. Now,
the Catholic Church got a grip on that horror, right,
but we don't have a grip yet on the horror
of the sexual abuse of children by some teachers because
the party in power won't deal with it because it's
their sacred Kyle.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
The teachers' union, that's sick. That's sick.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
But this Columbine story, it crosses all party lines. And
this is not left or right, it's right or wrong,
and all good people should come together to demand the truth.
And if you're new to the story, please four thirty
six Alison Browner joined us and we got into a
deep dive discussion of it. You can pick it off
the podcast. And then the mother of this child, fifteen
(33:59):
year old girl targeted by a female teacher over twenty
thousand texts. The female teacher goes to another teacher, and
then all of a sudden, official Columbine certifies this fifteen
year old who's being preyed upon is homeless when she
comes from a great supportive home, so they can move
her out of the home. And then the day she graduates,
she moves away with the teacher and now the parents
(34:22):
desperately trying to get her back. This should never happen
again in a Colorado school. So the mother of that
student victim, the mother who's fought so courageously, will join
us in studio next Monday. Ryan, thanks your great work
today as always, Kelly, you as well, and we'll keep
up the fight on this. We just want the truth,
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whole truth, nothing but the truth. We want it on
the table and then make sure this never happens again.
Thanks your time. Join me tomorrow on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
We've all got to fight together on this one across
party lines. Everybody in the state should want the same
thing here, the full truth and for this to never
happen again. And the mother who says that her young
fifteen year old daughter, star student, star athlete was targeted
by a female teacher at Columbine, groomed by that teacher
for years, more than twenty thousand texts, and you're hearing
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much more about the story today from Alison Brown or
the mother of the child will join us next Monday
in studio. Before we go back to Allison, let's go
to the phone lines talk with Joanne tells us she's
a retired teacher from the Jeffco School District.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Joanne, Welcome to The Dan Caplis Show.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Hey, jan this just makes my stomach learn because this
is not what education is about. It's not what I
was about when I was teaching in Jetco. I retired
four years ago, and I like to say I got
out when I couldn't take it anymore.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
What do you mean by that?
Speaker 4 (01:20):
The wokeism that was coming in that was, you know,
encouraging the transgender ideology, the thing that we had to
be more sensitive about students' feelings rather than about them
knowing content, about holding students accountable for content knowledge. And
(01:49):
I saw it as this was the slippery slopes that
I was not willing to die on.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
And did you see inappropriate things happening between teaching and students?
Speaker 4 (02:03):
I personally did not. I found out later after I
retired that there were some things that happened after I retired,
and they made minor headlines in Colorado, but really nothing
beyond that.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Yeah, in this business, and Alison Browner's with us, we're
going to jump back to that and get and keep
going through the timeline of trying to have a student
declared homeless so she could move in with another student,
and then the principal telling the parents that this teacher
had been helping students navigate their sexuality.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Had you heard of it? What's that?
Speaker 4 (02:52):
No? No, I would have been all over that. I
worked with a special population and I worked with speech
language pathologists, and it's like, no, this is totally inappropriate.
And all I can say is that principle is probably
is inexperienced and just kind of go with the flow,
(03:16):
go along to you know, not make waves. But yeah, no,
my four kids graduated from COLUMNNE and I will tell
you this, when Frank DeAngelis was principal. Oh yeah, this
death would not absolutely happen. Red flags all along on
the way. And I was a mandatory reporter, as every
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teacher is a mandatory reporter, and for them to sweep
this under the carpet, it makes me sick.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Yeah, and did you witness any grooming when you were there,
because here we're hearing these reports of twenty more than
twenty thousand texts between the teacher and this young girl.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
I did not witness groomy. But then again, my high
school was pretty much forthcoming, and yeah, ran the straight
and narrow until I found out after I retired that
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something's happened because of let me say personnel, children were
involved because they were students.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Wow, well I just I mean, I think anybody listening
to this story cannot imagine how all these people still
have their jobs everybody's wondering why why haven't we seen
any criminal prosecutions? Again, innocent until proven guilty, but it's
mind blowing, and well, thank you, thank you for your
service as a teacher, and thanks for the call today.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
Thank you, And I know it. There is no reason.
And the red flag the first road flat should have
been why is the speech language pathologist having anything to
do with a four point zero plus student when they're
not on their paceload, Because in my experience, the speech
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language pathologists have a full paceload. They have to worry
about their own students. How did she have time to
outside her realm to seek the student out?
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Yeah, no, great, great question. Thank you for that.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
And that brings us right back to Alison Browner. If
you've just joined us, thank you. Allison started with us
at about four point thirty six. You can hear that
first part on the podcast. And she is a parent
in that school district as well with their own concerns,
but a former private investigator and has done a deep
dive into the sheriff's reports on this and some other documents.
(05:55):
So we've been reviewing the timeline with her and I
won't repeat that here. We may loop back and summarize
a couple of points. But Ellison, we were at the
point in the story when we went to that news
break where you had already described how you have this
fifteen year old girl, star student, star athlete from this great,
very solid, stable home. The mother involved at school had
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another child at the school, and then all of a sudden,
this female teacher is taking an interest in this star
fifteen year old more than twenty thousand text The teacher
who is texting the student tens of thousands of times,
is then going to a speech pathologist working with her
to try to have the target student declared homeless so
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she could be pulled out of the great home she's
in and put in with this other teacher. And then
we're getting to the point of the story where the
parents and the mother will be with me in studio
next Monday, then go to meet with the principal.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Can you pick it up from there, Allison.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
Yeah, So the principal, excuse me, the parents started having suspicions,
as we've already discussed, and they actually meet with Jeff Coach,
Sheriff's deputies, who get all of the information and let
them know that currently at that point. They didn't have
anything actionable right at that second, but they told the
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parents to meet with school administration immediately. And keep in mind,
going back in the timeline, the mother has already found
some documentation that the daughter and this teacher is in
a relationship, and she has already contacted the teacher and
said stop texting my daughter, leave my daughter alone. And
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in the Jeff Coach Sheriff's report, it does indicate that
all of these school officials were aware that the mother
texted the predator teacher, and yet nobody asked any questions
about that. They didn't say, what is going on and
why is this mom texting this teacher?
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Well, wait a second, at this point, did everybody, including
law enforcement know about the what is it? Twenty four
thousand texts?
Speaker 5 (08:04):
So this is a little bit before law enforcement was involved. Okay,
but you know, the teachers, if I guess, I'm trying
to put myself in a principal principal's hat and principal shoes,
and if one of my teachers gets a text from
a parent saying, don't talk to my daughter anymore, that's
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going to raise red flags for.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Me, right thousand percent.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
But at this point had the principle also been aware
that they were trying to have the student declared homeless,
this student.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Who had a home.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
So what we know is that the principle was given,
at his request, bi weekly updates, So twice a week
from the beginning of April, he was given updates. We
I am not aware and I don't know for certain
whether or not he knew that they were filling out
this paperwork, but he knew that they were so concer
(09:00):
concerned about this minor child that there was discussions going
on about she shouldn't be in her home. So I
have not sais done what exactly exactly? And again keep
in mind, you know, the counselor while she's referring this
child to the community liaison for this paperwork, she also
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has the younger sibling as one of her students, and
she does not pull that younger sibling in at any
point and say, hey, what's going on at home?
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Well, isn't the reason for that because she knew, well
that wasn't a problem at home.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
That would be my guess.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Yeah, And and I mean if you just joined us,
Alison detailed for us earlier that the people filling out
these forms to try to have this star student and
athlete declared homeless so she could move in with the teacher.
At the same time, this other teacher who's targeted the
fifteen year oldest center twenty thousand texts. They never call
the parents, They never talked to the parents, they never
(10:01):
call protective services. Right, So, if they really thought this
child had an unstable home life, don't you think they
would have done that? I mean, was this all just
one big plan to make this target student more accessible
to the teacher wantedor.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
It certainly seems like it. I don't know any other explanation,
And that would be to.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Be one of the sickest things in Colorado history, in
the history of education in Colorado. And when you think
about this courageous mom who has spoken out, and then
people like you and Lindsay dot Cow and all of
those who have fought to make this public, how many
of these horrible situations, how they're out there where the
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student doesn't have that, where the student doesn't have somebody
to stand up for them and try to make it
public and fight for them and try to get the
child back from the predator teacher.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
And that's what we're really concerned about and that for
the mom and the family, they don't want this to
happen to another child, right, And I know you know
the last caller there was some political statements in there,
and just for full transparency, I am a left leaning
independent and I support LGBTQ plus rights, but I think
(11:19):
you can have LGBTQ plus rights without taking the rights
of parents away. And that's what's an issue a lot
of these cases.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Well, hell yes, And if this was an LGBTQ thing,
that then what you've got here If and I have
no idea if this young girl who is targeted is
that or not, But if she was, then you've got
abuse of an LGBTQ person, an LGBTQ minor. So this
is something all colorad and should be able to unite on.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Can you stay one more segment, Alison? Yes, want to
come back in detail.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
What happens then when the parents meet with the principal
and how was the principal still there? And why haven't
we heard anything from the DA here on the Dan
Kapla Show.
Speaker 6 (12:05):
And now back to the Dan Kapla Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Every Colorado needs to be insisting on answers here the
full truth on the table. What happened at Columbine. Everything
I've heard must never be allowed to happen again. Alison Brown,
are with us drilling down the mother of the student,
who has now told the New York Post her child
was groomed at Columbine by a teacher center more than
twenty four thousand texts and then quote unquote, she took
(12:29):
her The mother will join us next Monday in studio.
Allison's done some deep dive research into publicly available reports, etc.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
So, Allison, we're at the point in the.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Story now where the parents are a meeting with the
principal at Columbine, Scott Christy, Is that correct?
Speaker 3 (12:47):
That's correct? What happens in that meeting?
Speaker 5 (12:50):
So in that meeting, the principal reportedly tells the parents that, again,
as you mentioned earlier, this particular teacher takes a special
interest in helping students navigate their sexuality, and obviously the
parents took issue with that.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Can we stop there for a second. So you've got
a principle telling the parents that the teacher takes an
interest in helping students navigate their sexuality. And this is
the teacher now who has texted the student more than
twenty thousand times and is working with another teacher to
get the student declared homeless.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Correct, it's hard, yeah, it's hard to even process this.
Please go ahead.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
So then, you know, the parents start asking questions. They
want to know what exactly the principal knew, and he acknowledges,
according to the jeff Coe Sheriff's report, that he was
aware that their minor child was not happy with her
home life, and the parents asked him, well, then why
didn't you call us? Why didn't you notify us? Right,
(13:59):
And he did have an answer. He reportedly replied, that's
a good question.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
And then but he does hef to assuming knows the
answer right, right, right. I don't know him personally, but
I'm sure he's not an idiot. He's done some things
I can't even fathom, according to these reports, but he's
certainly an intelligent person.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
He must know the answer to that question.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
And then you know, they also ask whether it's acceptable,
because by this time they are aware they have found
the paperwork declaring their child who's not homeless, declaring their
child homeless, and so they ask Principal Christy, you know,
is it acceptable for a student to move in with
a teacher, because keep in mind, this particular student did
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not move in with a predatory teacher first. She first
moved in with a speech pathologist. So that adds a
whole layer of complexity to the story because had that
not happen, maybe she never would have gotten to the
predators teacher. So they asked the principal and said, is
it acceptable for a student to move in with the
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teacher while still enrolled? And he reportedly stated yes, this
teacher has done it before with another homeless student.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Oh my lord.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
They confirmed it with their legal team, to which the
mother replied, but my child is not homeless.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Right, and it's I just sit here thinking, as a parent,
your absolute worst nightmare, other than having your child pass away,
is having somebody take your student, take your child. Yeah,
so you've got your telling me you've got these people
in official capacities at Columbine sitting around talking about how
to take this child away from the parent.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
And again, my report that you have reviewed is based
on the Jeff Coch Sheriff's narrative.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Right right now, I understand you weren't there and I
wasn't there, and innocent until proven guilty in all of that.
But the facts I understand you to be reporting from
from the sheriff's workup is that there was an official
at Columbine who signed this form saying this child was
homeless when this child was not homeless. School had never
spoken to the parents about this. She had a brother
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in the school, She's a star student and athlete, right,
I mean, that's how.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
This came down. That's all correct.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
So it was in the sorry and the teacher you've
described as the predatory teacher had been involved in trying
to get this child declared homeless so she could be
moved out of her home, away from her parents and
put in this other teacher's home.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Exactly.
Speaker 7 (16:31):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
Yep, and Dan, you should know I personally emailed the
Attorney General's office. I was so infuriated with this case
and am so angry about this. I personally emailed several
people within the Attorney General's office, including those that are
in charge of his state services area. And I did
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receive a response, so they are aware of this case.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
And the momster response. They asked if.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
We wanted to have a phone call, and I asked
for a meeting, and we have not since heard.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
And that one you would think a while ago, what
could be more important in their inbox right than this? Right?
Because you've got, first of all, this precious child who's
been a victim of all this. Then you have her
wonderful parents and family who have for now at least
lost their child. And then you have the obvious question
of how.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
Many more are there?
Speaker 2 (17:25):
I mean, if it wasn't for people like this courageous
mom and Lindsay, Dad Coow and you and others, we
wouldn't know about this story.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
How many more are there out there?
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Because don't predators normally pray on the most vulnerable who
don't have anybody to cry out to and nobody will
ever hear them scream?
Speaker 3 (17:43):
How many more are there?
Speaker 5 (17:46):
Sadly, I think we're afraid there are many more.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Yeah, Okay, great job on this, Ellison. I hope we
can talk again soon. And as you know, the mother
of the child will be with us in studio next Monday,
so let's stay in touch on this. Thank you for
your great work, Thanks for thank you. Wow, We're going
to stay all over this and when we come back,
Congressman Jeff Crank will join us, and hey, we'll get
his take.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
On President Trump.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Now talking about selling these gold cards five million dollars
to get legal status in the US.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
You're on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 6 (18:25):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplas Show. Podcast.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Got to crank it up.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Put so much pressure on everybody in charge that they
have to make the full truth known about what happened
to this student at Columbine. Ellison Browner joined us starting
at four thirty six. Say, if you get a chance
to listen to the podcast and get the latest update
the mother of the student twenty four thousand texts from
this teacher toward this young student before she then disappears
(18:52):
with the teacher. The mother will join us in the
studio next Monday. Let's go to the VIP line and
welcome Jeff Krank. Great new congressman from Colorado. CD five
joins us on the Dan Kaplo Show.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Congressman, how you doing.
Speaker 7 (19:05):
I'm doing great, Dan. How are you well good?
Speaker 3 (19:07):
How do you like it?
Speaker 7 (19:09):
I love it? I love it? And you're going to
hear one of the trains passing by as I'm walking
back from the capital from a vote. We tried to
have a vote on the budget resolution, and I think
we're still working on a couple of Republicans to make
sure that they vote to support President Trump on the
budget resolution.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Now, you know, normally bills, as you know, have certain numbers.
We talked about HB this and that. But this one
is the big beautiful bill, right, this is the one
we're talking about.
Speaker 7 (19:38):
The one big beautiful bill. That's the one we're talking about.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Will be a lot more beautiful when it's passed. Is
it going to get passed?
Speaker 7 (19:46):
I think we're going to get there. You know, I
suspect we're maybe one or two members away from getting
it done. And you know, I'm the kind of person
that I decided early I'm going to support the president
on this a perfect It's not a perfect budget resolution.
Nothing here is perfect. You don't get to decide if
you're one of four hundred and thirty five. You don't
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get decided for everybody. It's the legislative body. As you know, Dan,
I'm on board. I think most of the Republicans in
Colorado are on board, and we just got to get
it done.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Congressman Jeff Cranker guests, now, does it how does it
work there?
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Jeff?
Speaker 2 (20:21):
I mean, it seems like on every one of these
big bills, you get like two or three Republicans who
are the holdouts, and then they're in all the headlines
for two or three days.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
And how does that work?
Speaker 2 (20:35):
How is it decided, you know, who's going to be
the holdout this time?
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Who's eventually going to come around? I mean? And is
there a price to be paid for that?
Speaker 7 (20:45):
Well, you hope there's a price to be paid for it.
I mean, you know, most I think most members try
to just be principles and try and understand the bigness
of the moment, you know, where we are right now
as a country, and understanding that it does to be
the same holdouts every time. It's the same four or
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five people. And I'll be honest with you, it's very frustrating,
I think when you know, again, I've only been here,
you know, for two months, But it's frustrating when you're
trying to do the right thing, trying to stick with
the president, and then you've got other people who, you know,
this seems like they are always trying to get that
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little extra bit of ink so that they can go
back to their district and say, oh, look kind of
either fold or they hold out.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
So yeah, well and your best bet at this point
is the bill will get passed.
Speaker 7 (21:40):
It will. I think it will. I think we'll get
it past here. Now, this is just the start of
the reconciliation process, right, so once this passes, the real
hard work then begins. And and you know, we got
a long way to go, but hopefully the President uses
his political capital, you know, to make sure that Republicans
stick with us.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Well, he's got a lot of that. He's got a
lot of that.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
And so once he gets it through the House, right
where you guys have what right now, maybe a one
member majority.
Speaker 7 (22:10):
Two member majority, yep, we can lose basically, could lose two.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
And then what are the prospects as you get into
the Senate, into this crazy reconciliation process, and how long
is that likely to take?
Speaker 7 (22:23):
Well, we'd like to have the whole thing done, you know, certainly,
certainly by May. I think, you know, the time is ticking.
I think the original goal is to have it all
done by April, you know, through the reconciliation process, completely done,
but you know, might slip into May. But we've got
to get it done soon. I mean, those tax cuts
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that you know are expiring, you know, we want people
we want the economy to roar, and we want it
to do it right away. We don't want to wait
and you know, have it take effect you know maybe
next year, late next year. We want it right away.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
So yeah, and we talked so much about the big
beautiful bill, but not what's in it so often.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
So what are the highlights?
Speaker 7 (23:07):
Well, I mean, all this thing does right now the
Budget Resolution does is it says, you know, it says
that the Ways and Means Committee is going to go
and extend the tax cuts that we're going to you know,
go find money in The Natural Resources Committee, for instance,
has to go find almost a trillion dollars nine hundred
(23:29):
billion dollars. Now they're likely to do that by going
and you know, figuring out how to drill for oil
and natural gas on public land leases and things like that.
So it sets the sets us up as a country
to be able to go out and really reprioritize you know,
obviously we'd be spending more money on border security, on
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so many of these things, and it will increase defense
spending by about one hundred billion dollars.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Let me do a hard turn for a second.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Congressman Jeff crank Our guest, I don't know if you've
even seen this story. This afternoon, President Trump to offer him,
quoting Bloomberg, gold card visas for five million to the rich,
and that's Bloomberg spent on it. But as I understand
the President's proposal, it would be five million dollars to
get legal status in the US, and the intent would
(24:24):
be to attract wealthy job creators while raising money for
the country.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Your take on that, well.
Speaker 7 (24:34):
I don't know. I mean, I guess it's fun for
us for a starting point, right for us to talk
about that, And you know, I don't know, I don't
know how I would react to that. I guess I just,
you know, just having heard it today, we can talk
about it. It's it's kind of like people I get
asked about birthright citizenship and I said, look, at least
(24:55):
the President is throwing it out there and talking about it,
and I think that's a good thing, right.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
And Congressman, you know where I think people maybe misunderstand
the discussion on birthright citizenship because I ran into this
at the dinner table myself, is that when we talk
about and I don't know where you come down on this,
as I view it, just legally. I think there is
no chance whatsoever that the drafters intended that there be
(25:23):
automatic citizenship to somebody born in the country of folks
here illegally. I mean, no matter what somebody thinks the
policy should be, I don't think there's any credible argument
that that's what the drafters intended. But I think where
the confusion arises is, Okay, I come home and we're
having dinner, and one of my family members was aghast
(25:45):
because they thought I was saying that everybody who had
been made an American citizen to this point based on
birthright would lose their citizenship. And I'm not suggesting that
at all. I'm just suggesting we'd be honest about the
law and about the fact the intent never was to
create this automatic birthright citizenship and then move forward from there,
(26:07):
but not revoke citizenship for everybody who already has it.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Right.
Speaker 7 (26:13):
Yeah, I totally agree that, like sort of, that's probably
a very good way to do it right and moving forward.
This is what was intended, right, and we just haven't
even had that discussion. So yeah, I think it's great that,
you know, President Trump has brought this up as an
issue and we're you know, we're working to, you know,
(26:36):
work through that, and it's gonna have to work its
way through the course. This is an issue that's really
never been decided, and I think it's high time that
it is.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
And one of the things I really like about President
Trump is just the fresh thinking.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Okay. I mean this whole idea of.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Selling legal status for five million, two wealthy people who
then will be job creators. Here, it's a fresh idea,
right And now as I dive into it, maybe I
find something I don't like, But I just like the
fact he has these fresh ideas. And when a fresh
idea then hits, it can change a lot of things
in a hurry.
Speaker 7 (27:12):
Right, Yeah, it sure can, It sure can. And that's
that's one of the refreshing things I think right about
the President and what he's done over the last month.
I mean, he's shaken the system to a poor and
people don't like that. I understand. Change is uncomfortable, especially
when you know sort of violent change, you know, when
(27:33):
it was the sort of violent shape the system, which
is which is what President Trump is doing right now.
But it's good. I think it's good for us to
figure that out. And by the way, let me just
tell you, Dan, this is how life of a member
of Congress goes. I left the floor, I called you,
walk back to my office. I walk in and they said,
(27:53):
go back to the floor. You're going to bumb out
on the budget resolution. So get them we figured it out,
and I thought a few minutes, but they probably did
figure it out. My hope is that we will have
the votes to pass it tonight.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Well, I sure hope.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
So.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Hey, always great to talk to you. Of course, always
an open door here, So look forward to the next one.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
Dan.
Speaker 7 (28:13):
I really appreciate you, thanks for all you do, and
anytime I can come on and talk with you, I'd
love to do it.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Thanks, Congressman, look forward to it. You take care, sir.
That's Congressman Jeff crank. Hey, when we come back, we
have a lot to talk about, right eight five five
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Speaker 3 (28:35):
You're on the Dan Kaplas Show.
Speaker 6 (28:37):
And now back to the Dan Taplas Show podcast.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Cover.
Speaker 8 (28:41):
Tony Egers of Wisconsin just tried to erase mothers institive.
Using the word mother. He crossed out mother and put
persons who are inseminated persons who can be insuminated, or
person who gave first, parent who gave first anything but
(29:01):
say mother woman. Those are words he can't say because
the woke won't let him. Folk won't let us define
what a woman is. A biological female with a uterus
and two ovaries who gives birth to a child.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Only a woman can.
Speaker 8 (29:24):
That's a female. That's what I am. I'm a mom,
a mom of five kids in Wisconsin, and Governor Evers,
you are not going to erase me, and you are
not going to race all the moms in Wisconsin. You
are not going to erase women. We're not going to
let you.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
You know, I think America are enough of America is
starting to understand that the modern left, the modern Democratic Party,
is one big war on girls and women in so
many different ways. Before birth, right where their sacred cow
is this insane policy where you have what at least
six seven hundred thousand females a year killed before they're born,
(30:08):
and then after that, the war on safe spaces for
girls and women, the war on sports for girls and women.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
You know, girls and women now I mean motherhood.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Obviously, it's one of the most impressive, grandest proudest things
in world history, and now it's being reduced to inseminated
person can't even say mother. I mean, there are just
so many ways it's a war on women. And I
think that's one of the reasons you start to see
(30:38):
voters peeling off from the Democratic Party because as a
former Democrat, I can tell you so much of that
was voting based on habits, So much of that was
voting based on the negative stereotype of the GOP. So
much of that was based on maybe some good things
the Democratic Party did in the past, but the modern
Democratic Party, more and more people are getting hip to it.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
I think more and more women are.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Getting hip that it's one big war on girls and women.
Where is the respect for girls and women? I mean,
look at what's happening in Colorado, and this issue at
Columbine that we're spending so much time on is completely nonpartisan, bipartisan,
but we're always going to be honest and we cannot
ignore the fact we have a true crisis in Colorado
(31:23):
when it comes to teachers sexually abusing students. And it's
a very small percentage, right, and the vast majority of
teachers are fantastic, but it's still a crisis, and yet
police ignores it, and Wiser ignores it. And you know
where's the DA in jeffco on this Columbine thing. We
cannot escape the reality that the Democratic Party is totally
(31:45):
in bed with the teachers' union.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
And does that.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Explain why are democratically elected governor and attorney general. It
just seems so disinterested in this crisis we have of students,
many many, many of them female, being sexually preyed upon
by teachers. This should be a front and center crisis.
But the Democrats in control in Colorado.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Yeah, the irony right that they are obviously in bed
with the teachers' union, and you just have to believe
that is why they're not jumping on this. Here's an example, right,
Can you imagine? And I'm so grateful and proud to
be Catholic and we had this horrible thing happen in
our church where one of the worst things imaginable. You
had some priests who were sexually abusing children. That's straight
(32:33):
out of hell. It's one of the worst things imaginable.
It's no reflection on priesthood as a whole. It was
a relatively small number, but even one is way too
much evil. Can you imagine replace the numbers right now
that we see in Colorado of students sexually abused by teachers.
Imagine if that was priest. You can bet Wiser and
(32:54):
Polists they would be front and center every day. It
would be the number one crisis in the state. They'd
be pulling out every stop legally to absolutely make this
the centerpiece of everybody's attention. But because it's teachers and
police and Wiser in bed with the teachers' union, you
don't hear a peep from them one way or the other.
(33:16):
No matter who the purp is, it's evil and it's wrong. Now,
the Catholic Church got a grip on that horror, right,
but we don't have a grip yet on the horror
of the sexual abuse of children by some teachers because
the party in power won't deal with it because it's
their sacred Kyle.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
The teachers' union, that's sick. That's sick.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
But this Columbine story, it crosses all party lines. And
this is not left or right, it's right or wrong,
and all good people should come together to demand the truth.
And if you're new to the story, please four thirty
six Alison Browner joined us and we got into a
deep dive discussion of it. You can pick it off
the podcast. And then the mother of this child, fifteen
(33:59):
year old girl targeted by a female teacher over twenty
thousand texts. The female teacher goes to another teacher, and
then all of a sudden, official Columbine certifies this fifteen
year old who's being preyed upon is homeless when she
comes from a great supportive home, so they can move
her out of the home. And then the day she graduates,
she moves away with the teacher and now the parents
(34:22):
desperately trying to get her back. This should never happen
again in a Colorado school. So the mother of that
student victim, the mother who's fought so courageously, will join
us in studio next Monday. Ryan, thanks your great work
today as always, Kelly, you as well, and we'll keep
up the fight on this. We just want the truth,
(34:45):
whole truth, nothing but the truth. We want it on
the table and then make sure this never happens again.
Thanks your time. Join me tomorrow on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
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