George Brauchler fills in for Dan, breaks down policy positions of 2026 Colorado governor candidates
December 16, 2025 • 34 mins
George Brauchler, 23rd district attorney fills in for Dan and provides his legal perspective on various policy positions posted by Democrat and Republican candidates in the 2026 race for governor in Colorado.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
Well, happy Tuesday to you. It is December the sixteenth.
You've only got nine days until Christmas. My name's George Brockler.
I'm the district attorney for the fight in twenty third
Judicial District, encompassing Douglas, Elbert, and Lincoln Counties.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
You know it better as the safe place.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
If you're driving between Denver and Colorado Springs, that's probably
where your stress is at its lowest as you go
up and down I twenty five. Listen, you only have
nine days left to get your stuff under the tree.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
But it's worse than that.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
If you're like me, you got inundated with emails today
from different vendors saying you got to get your stuff
in the mail right now.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
You've got If you don't do it today, that's it.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
It's over.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
You're going to get it after Christmas. I really don't
know how bad that is.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I don't know the answer to that I do remember
thinking at one point Black Friday's kind of the kickoff,
I'll get it all done, And of course I've not
gotten it all done. I really have no sense of
what I've purchased, what I wanted to purchase, none of
that stuff. Listen, I'm gonna be with you for all
two hours to day until six o'clock. I am the
criminal justice guy. We do talk about stuff like that.
(01:19):
I'll tell you what I want to do.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
And we got a guest coming on at the top
of the fifth of the of the five o'clock hour,
I guess that's the fifth o'clock hour, and.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
That is to talk to you about some of these
gubernatorial candidates. Now, I had had this idea for a
while now, and that is Look, we're starting to see
pretty much. I think all the candidates that are going
to get any sort of play, they've already come out.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Now.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
It would be not uncommon or impossible for someone to
jump in in January or February, but they'd have to
have some good name ID, they'd have to have a
little dollar or an ability to raise it to get in.
But right now we have a good sense of who's
in the field for sure. On the Democrat's side, and
it comes down to just Bennett Wiser and then on
the Republican side, and those are the six folks that
(02:07):
were invited to go do this great debate thing.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Man, I wish I could be here for this thing.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
And I'll be real candid with you about why I
can't go. And I wanted to go and hang out
with Mandy and Ryan and Steve and Steve and do
all this, but it's a drill weekend for me.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
And I take.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Very seriously the idea that when I put on the uniform,
I just can't really get into the politics stuff. It
just doesn't feel like the right thing to do. So
I was bummed about that. I wish there was a way.
In fact, I was kind of counting on Victor Mark saying, hey, no,
I'll do it. If you move it a week or two,
then I'd have been there. I'd have been sitting there
eating popcorn with the rest of you guys watching this thing.
(02:43):
I wish I could go to that event. So what
I did was I sat down, I went through all
the websites of the major candidates. I'm gonna call major candidate,
so I'm not dismissing anyone. There's probably a bunch of
people I don't know who could be great candidates, and
you're welcome to call the show and let us know
your thoughts on that. Once I memorize the number three
h three seven one three eighty two fifty five.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Is that right? Did I just nail that? I think
you stuck the landing like Kerrie Strug in the Olympic game. Well,
that's wonderful.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
And there's text messages. Yeah, and the text message number
is we're seven five seven seven three nine. Send him
Dan five seven seven three nine. If you kick off
the text with Dan and George is awesome. You don't
have to put in that last part. But it'll get
to me and I'll read those texts. But this is
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my point. I went through all their websites, and they
all have websites, and I went through and saw, look
what are they saying about public safety? And you'll be
surprised about what they're saying and not saying. I'll give
you a real quick example. Greg Lopez has really nothing
about public safety at all on his and it's not
(03:52):
really an issues page. It's sort of a priorities page.
And I've known Greg for a long time. He's an
Elbert guy, twenty third JD guy. He's great, but he
has really nothing on there. He talks about funding law enforcement.
That's it, and it's just it's a burb. It's not
even like a whole sentence or a paragraph. And then
you fast forward all the way to Victor Marks, where
I want to spend a little bit of time talking
about because Ryan had this epic interview earlier today with
(04:14):
him that replayed right before Dan Show here, and that
is he has a ton of detail in his plan
and we'll go through some of that stuff at some point.
I want to really talk about everybody's but I'll be
honest with you. I started going through some of that
plan and looking up the statutory citations and whatnot. They
are not what he says they are. Now, I don't
(04:36):
know why that is. I'm pretty sure he didn't draft
this thing. But whoever he's hired to flesh out his
public safety policies with all of these statutory citations, I
don't know if they were drunk, I don't know. I
don't know if it was Ai, Like he just asked
AI what to do for a public safety policy thing?
But there's a lot that's wrong here, and we'll go
(04:59):
through some of that stuff, but it runs the gamut.
Right Then there's Wiser, there's Bennett, and I want to
talk about those things, and I really wanted to have
an exciting conversation with you.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
I still do about public safety.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
But I'm at an event last night for a guy
named Nate marsh Now Nate is a Republican dude running
in I think it's HD forty three House District forty
three that is the only elected office, not a.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
School board one because that's non partisan, the.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Only elected office in Douglas County that is currently occupied
by a Democrat, and it's by a guy named Bob Marshall.
And Nate had an event last night at the Highlands
Ranch Senior Center where he kind of helped kick off
his campaign.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
It was I think he'd kicked it off a little bit.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Before I had the opportunity to go there, talk for him,
listen to him, and he's going to be on at
the top of the five o'clock hour. But at that event,
I end up talking to a super smart politico guy,
and I'm super excited to talk about public safety today
and I want to talk about what the candidates have done,
and he says, look, a be honest with you, George, Uh,
(06:01):
it's not in the top ten of issues for voters
that we have pulled over the last few months.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
And I could.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
I was like, that's not possible, because Colorado's a dumpster
fire of public safety. I mean, the numbers are ridiculous
and we're the third, you know, worst or least safe.
Maybe we're the same, I mean these are and I
feel a little bit myopically focused on it because this
is my day gig. This is what we do, right like,
we fight for public safety and justice on an ongoing,
everyday basis. So to hear that it's not even in
(06:31):
the top ten, I said, well, what are the top
like three issues? And he said affordability, affordability, affordability, and
then a bunch of other things after that, and I
thought that can't be. So what I'm really interested to
know at three zero three seven one, three eighty two
fifty five is it is public safety an issue? And
if so, what are you looking for from a candidate
(06:52):
for this? And we'll continue to talk about these things.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
I want to.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Though when we get back, and I should have asked Ryan,
because I'm not the consummate professional that I should be.
I should have asked the veteran Ryan. We have like
a break at fifteen ish.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
Fifteen ish and forty five ish, but you better get
out by twenty nine to thirty or.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Santa is going to be mad at you. Okay, Now
that's the hard one. That's right at the top of
the hour, fifty eighth thirty. No no euphemisms there, that's
just a hard break.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Take it to this time. I'm slowing down.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Fu'll tie Carols. But look what I want to do
before we take our first break, though, is I want
to tease kind of this next segment because Ryan had
a very good interview with a candidate for governor who
I've seen a poll where he has some good numbers.
They're not great, They're not insurmountable good numbers. I think
a lot of people don't know who this guy is,
(07:42):
but he seems to have better name ID than a lot.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Of the other candidates.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
And he is not going to be at this debate
thing that Steve Wells and Steve Reams, Ryan and Mandy
are all participating in. And so I was anxious to
listen to the interview, And there's this one one clip
in particular that I wanted to tease you with because
in responding to Ryan's questions.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
About the debate, this is what he said.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
This debate was set up by Steve Wells and Sheriff
Steve Rings with a month notice exactly, So it would
have been December tenth, preparing for January tenth.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
You already had some events schedule. Correct.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
How far in advance would you require notice in order
to participate in a debate.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Well, it just depends on my schedule and what I
have going. Look, I'm going to debate when I want
and who I want period. WHOA I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
That caught me by surprise when I heard that, Like
that is the talk of someone who isn't just supremely confident.
That is someone who's talking like this is our race
to lose, and I'm going to do the things that
I think are best for my campaign, independent of whether
or not they please the voters or the Party faithful
or whomever it is. Is certainly an interesting thing. What
(09:01):
did you hear there? And we'll come back and play
a couple of their clips, But I'm anxious to know
what you think about the public safety thing three or
three seven one three eighty two fifty five. Is it
a big deal for you? And if it's a big deal,
is it a big deal that you would consider in
deciding which gubernatorial candidate to support come next June, because
that's the primary.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
We'll talk about November later.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Until that time when we come back from this break,
it's George Brockler filling in for the great one, Dan
Caplis right here on the Dan Capla Show.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
And now back to the Dan Caplis Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
George Brocker filling in for Dan Caplas. You got me
till six o'clock. Happy to be on with you are
text line five seven seven three nine full of texts already.
You can also give us a call three or three
seven one three eighty two fifty five if you want
to be part of the conversation. I heard, by the
way yesterday Ryan, the conversation you had with Dan about
(09:54):
Dan asked, look, am I like the last show that
does any phone calls from listeners, and you said, well,
you're about to be show number two here in the
morning following in that model.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
I love that too, Man, that is a big, big deal.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
In fact, if I couldn't engage listeners either, talking is
the best on the phone, it would make this job
more boring, do you know what I mean? Like you
just want to have that back and forth and share
some ideas.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
Well, you used to occupy mornings over on that other
station over there, not too far from here, and that
was a big part of your show then, right.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
It was?
Speaker 3 (10:30):
I listen. I thrive on the interaction.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
I don't feel comfortable listening to myself talk, which a
lot of people say that's crazy, but I'm telling you,
whether it's the career field I've chosen, which is talking
to jury's or the public or the radio, or I
much rather have a conversation with someone than just sort
of pontificate from back here and then find out later
on that someone had an opinion they didn't want to
(10:53):
share with me.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
I'd just much rather have that. I couldn't agree more.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
I like the interaction live of having callers on the air.
The texts are great, too, and I think in a
lot of ways those tend to be more convenient for listeners.
They can just fire a text and beyond their merry
way and on our end we can plug them in
as we go at our discretion with a call. It
is dedicated times, so at that time live in real time.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
You know you're having that engagement with a listener.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
But there's no other medium that really allows for that,
you know, podcasts format, television, yes.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
And it's unique to talk radio. Well.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
And look, if we're talking puer safety here, and I
imagine a good number of listeners are in the car
right now, on their way from work to some other place.
Maybe they've got a body in the trunk. No one knows,
but it's easier and safer to bluetooth call this thing
in rather than work your thumbs on the phone while
you're texting into five seven seven three nine. Having said that,
we've already got some text here. Look who the cat
(11:48):
dragged in? Orgey in the house. That's our good buddy Alexa.
Oh boy, George exclamation points. Also very night, very nice
missing a bromance date with Sheriff Reems. Lol, that would
be an awesome opportunity, by the way, to be up there.
George is awesome, and so is his son Trey. How
is his wheelchair working for him? That's from Bert wheelchair
(12:11):
is great. In fact, he had upgraded from one to
the other the other one kind of got one out.
For those who don't know, my son's in a wheelchair,
he's got muscular dystriviee. But he's kicking butt up at CSU.
In fact, he's going to graduate a semester early night.
I know, believe me, I know, I graduated a semester
e lait.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
What on purpose? If so?
Speaker 2 (12:32):
There is okay, okay, he's studying something bio bunch of science.
Ye words in it, and I think medical something is
in there, but I can't remember. Maybe George B should
run for Attorney General because Griswold is an ept krupt.
Don't listen to these folks. They are full of blank
and some stuff. Public safety is important.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
I agree with that, I do. I mean, that's been
my career field.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
First off, I can't run for AG and it's not
there's no legal impediment to it for those of you.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
The thing it's really.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Because I am not convinced Colorado is yet ready to vote.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Something other than the D or the R on the name.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
In no way do I believe that people voted for
Phil Wiser or four Shared Polis or four Jenna Grizswold.
They voted against the Republicans on the ballot. I believe that,
and I'm not sure that that's changed yet. And so
what that means is I just can't go through the
rest of whatever I have left of life. Having lost
to both Wiser and Griswold in that same lifetime.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
There's no recovery from that, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (13:38):
That's I feel like I couldn't look my friends in
the face anymore, my family, I'd have to move to
some other place.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
I'd have to change my name, would definitely need therapy,
and that would be a lot to process.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Well.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
I still have a.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Facial tick when people bring up the Wiser thing, I
go back to a Herbert Lohm kind of thing with
the eye twitch and all that other stuff. Here's one
I didn't realize you were currently in the military. Please
give us a brief outline of your service. My son's
a Marine corporal, thank you, and my daughter's wyoming Guard PFC.
You raised some patriots, sir. I'm a former combat engineer
sergeant bless you man. I'm at the tail end of
(14:12):
a long career and uniform I am currently our senior
colonel in the Colorado National Guard. And I mean that
in all the gray hair ways, you can imagine my
runway runs out at the end of May where I
will be. I will be retired, whether I want to
or not. It's called an mr D date. I just
don't have any runway left. Could not figure out a
way to get promoted to general.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
But that's okay.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
I mean, that's not everybody gets to be a colonel.
So I'm happy with where I ended up. And I
got my commissioner out of ROTC at CU Boulder, and
then a bunch of other things in between, including a
small stint in Iraq doing some stuff and other things.
Here's one, George, You're not as good as my beard.
Bro still awesome. Lo ol, cheers, that's probably true. Another
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one awesome, doctor Brockler. Or maybe Ryan wants to chime in.
Can you convince me that Victor Marx is not Dan Mays? Yeah,
not literally, but he's starting to give me the same
feeling Mays did at about this point before the election. Ryan,
you know what that brings us right back to this thing.
(15:18):
You got to sit down say hey, by the way,
I don't know if you ever described this on the show,
the time that you had him in the studio. But
I got a description of what the studio look like
like right now. If someone could see in here, it's
me sitting in this room. If I'm ever on with
Dan or Steve Reams or something, it's one other person.
You're back there behind the glass rocking all the important stuff.
What was it like when you did the Marx interview?
(15:40):
It was passionate, it was intense.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
He was sitting directly in that chair to your left,
as it were, and he had his whole entourage with him.
Describe that. What do you mean by entouri way? His
wife Eileen was there sitting in the corner where I'm
pointing right now, if you can look. And then Roger Hudson,
his communications directory. He had some video technicians as well,
a lot of people in attendance there that joined him
(16:02):
for the appearances.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
This is not a huge room either, so when I
heard there was like seven ish people in here. And
Roger's a friend. I've known Roger Hudson for a long
long time. Goodfellah lives out where in the area where
I do. I like him, But it sounds like it
was packed in here. Did you feel ever at all?
I'm asking a question.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
I already know the answer.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
You do you ever feel Ryan intimidated by the number
of people that were in here.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
No, it's not my first rodeo, and you know, whether
it was sports or anything else, I'm kind of used
to people that might have a group with them, and
you know, he wanted to document it, and I think
this is for the purposes of his campaign, which makes sense.
They're going to publish the video and put it on
his website, maybe use clips from it. So I'm just
glad he agreed to be in studio too. It was
a very frank exchange. I think listeners probably gained a
(16:49):
lot from it, and I'm interested to hear what they thought.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
I'm interested as well, and then we'll get to the
public safety stuff too with some of these other candidates.
I don't know this guy, but what intrigues me about
him is people I like him, like Lauren Bobert, like
Heidi Ganal and I just haven't had a chance to
really get to know this guy or talk to him.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
But listen when we come back, love to hear from you.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Five seven, seven, three nine three zero three seven one
three eighty two to fifty five.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
George Brocklay on the Dan Kaplas Show.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
You're listening to the Dan Kapliss Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
George Brockler fill it in for Dan Caplas right here
on the mighty six thirty k how we've got calls.
You can join them three zero three seven one three
eighty two fifty five.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
You can text us too.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
We're getting a lot of texts today, five seven, seven
three nine. Just those five numbers five seven, seven three nine.
Let's go right to the videotape. And actually it's John Incentennial. John,
you're on six thirty KHW with George Brockler on the
Dankpla Show.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
What do you think?
Speaker 6 (17:59):
HI have a lot of respect for you, George and
Joy listening say you, thank you. I got Alard on
my phone at three twenty two this afternoon, and I
know there's so much scamming and whatnot on the phone,
but this one kind of concerned me a little bit,
says breaking dam is close to passing Bill two twenty
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seven using retirement funds to play for unemployment benefits to
illegals be heard call now and there's a phone number
eighty five five four one zero thirty four eighteen. I
was wondering if you were aware of any such thing
as it as.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
I'm not one.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
I don't think it's true for a couple of reasons.
Here in the state of Colorado, the Dems aren't in
session right, so, like, there's no state legislature to pass
a law that could be signed and go into effects,
So I'm dubious of that. And the Dems don't control
anything in WA Washington, d c. Except sometimes the narrative,
but they don't They're not in a position to pass that.
Unemployment is a peculiarly state run thing, So I think
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this isn't so much a scam as is trying to
drive you to call them and see if you can't
participate in a poll or give them information where you
can become a person they pester for donations or something
like that.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
But it doesn't sound legit to me.
Speaker 6 (19:24):
I didn't think so. And you know, I don't call
numbers unless I know what they are.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
So you mean like three or three seven one, three
eighty two fifty five? You called that one? You nailed that.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Hey, what do you think of this? What do you
think of all of this public safety stuff? How big
a deal is that to you? As you start to
consider next year's gubernatorial race.
Speaker 6 (19:47):
It's major. I'm retired law enforcement, so I back the
throw law enforcement. Uh candidate?
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Okay, good?
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Who do you like out of the field, by the way.
Speaker 6 (20:04):
Uh, To be real honest with you, I need to
kind of look at it. I know a couple of
people I don't like.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Yeah, who don't you like? And why? Oh?
Speaker 6 (20:16):
I don't like?
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Yes, sir either?
Speaker 6 (20:19):
Well any of the Democrats. I just sound very in
trusted the ones for the Republicans. I'm really enjoying listening
to the interviews that you guys are having. Oh, I
think thank your other shows have so Yeah, I'm Jael
listening for the best.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
John, thank you for the call, my man, I really
do appreciate this. John's line is open three or three seven,
three eighty two fifty five calling us from way down
south in Pueblo or David.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Do you call Pueblo or Peblo or Pieblo? How do
you call it?
Speaker 7 (20:55):
People say it both ways. It's really Pueblo.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Okay, Pueblo, man, how are you doing? Thanks for in
what are your thoughts?
Speaker 7 (21:02):
I'm good and I'm the gentleman of Texas saying I
don't run for attorney general for two races. But George,
I'd see a bigger problem in the state, and I
keep on the on the van wagging the drum for it,
and that is are elect Did you really lose both times?
Speaker 3 (21:21):
I did?
Speaker 2 (21:21):
I when I ran in twenty eighteen, Man, I don't
have any doubts. I lost, And listen, I'm proud of
what we accomplished to this day, and we're talking now
it's seven years later. No Republican running for a state
constitutional office has ever gotten more votes than I have.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
I'm proud of that. But we still lost.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
And given every other election that cycle and sort of
how it shook out, including the ones where we elected
you know, Lauren Bolbert by a good number and and
all these other I do feel like it was legit.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
I just haven't seen anything that tells me otherwise.
Speaker 7 (21:52):
So, George, I listened to another patriot in the state.
He's got positives and negatives, but I like him a lot,
and I've met him and bot him. A gentleman named Joel.
I'm pretty sure he recuaced you on one of his
recent podcasts.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
I know Joe, and I've known Joe for a long
long time, and I know that Joe. He was he
was a supporter for sure, and he is convinced that
I won that race. I just haven't seen anything that
tells me that.
Speaker 7 (22:21):
The reason why I say that is I personally canvas
after twenty twenty in Opaso County with a group of people,
a large group of people, and we weren't really trying
to prove with disproven and we were just trying to
verify the legitimate votes via affiday that signed. And I
will say that there was probably about a ten percent
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air raid out there that we did found either except
the ballots. The people that didn't do it. I didn't
complete the ballot, and it wasn't by party. Of course,
there are the people that were rude, but there was
a group of people that just come get it on
their own, headed by a guy named Sean Smith. You
(23:03):
know him as well, No, I don't know him. But
our election in Colorado with that machine in the mail
in ballot, it's it is not accurate because Dan's one
of Dan's biggest issues and abortion, and you know, I'm
sent with Daniel Allen personally. But what I'm gonna say
(23:25):
about that is, do you really believe sixteen or seventy
percent of Colorado voted literally to have abortion upsel. Basically,
they're on the table alive.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
I don't think that's how it was framed. And if
I'm being candid man, I don't think that every voter
that casts a ballot has read the whole ballot, read
the language, read the blue book. I don't believe that.
I mean, the way our system is set up, David,
is that you and I can be the most educated
voters in Colorado and our votes get canceled out by
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someone who has a ballot sitting on their counter in
an apartment complex in Denver. When a canvasser comes by
and says, hey, can I help you vote that thing?
I'll go take it in for you. That wipes out
you and me. I think that happens way more than
we know.
Speaker 7 (24:14):
Well, I can tell you that an example on Springs
of Past the county where and addressed that there was
not in there, I got thirty ballots. So there's there's
a lot of rooms for corruption out there. Part of
the deal with the registration well and the way the
blue books another very corrupt process too.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
We read what they write, if you read what they write.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
But I'm not just not sure many people do it,
And David, I have my own concerns about carpet bombing
the state with ballots and just counting on the.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Fact that we think that we're going to either eyeball
or use.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Some sort of a signature catching software to protect ourselves
from fraud. I have my own concerns about that. But
having said that, man, I need to see fraud. I
can't have someone say could have happened. I got a
see it, and I haven't seen.
Speaker 7 (25:01):
It so far, so I got I got one of
the thoughts.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Yes.
Speaker 7 (25:06):
So today it's a really nice lady out of the
Mid East coast who does a nice show. She's a mom,
caught kids, and she said that right now, resident and
Biden is having trouble is getting funds for his library,
a presidential library or residential library. He has like no
contributors eighty one million voters. That's a dollar twenty five
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from every body. We could come up with a hundred
he needs, but he hadn't gotten a dime. So can
we start a fundraising for him?
Speaker 2 (25:41):
I look at this point, and I don't want to
be too disrespectful. I'm pretty sure we could just take
him to any building anywhere and tell him here's your library.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
And he's likely to believe it. And then we've saved ourselves.
Speaker 7 (25:53):
And I leave our governor. I leave our governor a
message every day on a lot of topics. Tina Peters
should not be in jail, but on that note, I
leave him a message. And today my message was, you know,
I told me what I just said to you, basically, yeah,
say you're kind of wealthy. Why don't you give him
the hundred millions?
Speaker 2 (26:13):
He's got hundreds of millions of bucks. Hey, David, thank
you for the phone call man. And I really do
appreciate the people that call in and encourage me to run.
It's it's flattering that people think I could do that job,
or at least I wouldn't be as bad at it
as other people running quick thing on the Tina Peters thing,
it's hard for me to comment on the sentence because
in light of what and Dan has done such a
great job highlighting this, in light of what you know
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Polus has done with other people in terms of commuting
their sentences, cutting them short, all this other stuff, it's
really hard to reconcile nine years for that conduct.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
But I'm telling you looking at that case, and I followed.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
That case as much as I could given my schedule,
knowing the DA in Mason County, and I know that dude,
he's been a colleague, knowing how the system works and
knowing what she did.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
And she's guilty.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
She's just guilty, whether or not it requires nine years
of prison to make the point and to punish her
as something else.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
But I don't have concerns about that. I don't think
the fix was in. I don't think it was a setup.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
I don't think she was denied the ability to present
evidence that would have been presented in any other courtroom
in the state of Colorado, whether it was a Democrat
or Republican in place. We can talk more about who
the judge is and stuff, But that's a tough one
for me. Should she be in jail, that's someone else's
kind of a thing. But should she be convicted, Yes,
she should be convicted, that's my opinion. But listen, why
don't we come back. I want to take more of
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your calls. I appreciate John and David. Their lines were
open three zero three seven one three eighty two fifty five.
Some more texts coming in at five seven, seven, three nine,
Ryan had an incredible interview with an Italian lady running
for the fourth CD. That's a text that came in
right here. Ryan was starting to shake his head. I
think at one point I heard her say, ab On Nunza, I.
Speaker 5 (27:54):
Liked about watching known As Together, that Netflix film starring
Vince Vaughan, and about the lasagna that I made. I
sent her a photo and she said it's not true
Italian because there wasn't sauce everywhere.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Like I'll go all over the walls, in the oven.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
And the pan and everything.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Just good to have you on. Listen.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
When we come back, we're going to get to more
of your text and calls. I want to start tearing
apart some of this public safety stuff by these gubernatorial candidates.
You'll be surprised I was as to what they're going
to say. George Brockler filling in for Dan Caplis on
The Dan Caplas Show.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
And now back to the Dankaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
George Brockler filling in for Dan Caplas.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
You got me for the whole next hour and the
remaining six or so minutes that we have until I
get kicked off the ear this hour. Our text line,
of course five seven seven three nine five seven seven
three nine. You got to start it off with Dan,
followed by dang George would be good looking, and then
whatever else you want to put on after that, and
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then of course the phone number three oh three seven
one three eighty two fifty five. I want to start
having more detailed conversations about these gubernatorial candidates and their
public safety platforms, because, as you know, public safety in
Colorado's an issue and we kind of suck. And I
don't mean the law enforcers don't suck. I love our
men and women in blue. Prosecutors at least in our
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jurisdiction are doing everything they can to make sure that
people are being held accountable. And we're getting prevention through
a deterrence as well as the other Hugham kind of
policies that are forced on us by the state.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
But what have other candidates said?
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Now you should know and I said this already, Greg
Lopez virtually nothing on his website at all about public
safety in terms of the priorities.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Talked about funding law enforcement. That's about it.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Well, we're going to go to Jason mikeel now I
know Jason Great Sheriff out of Teller County.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
What's that? Oh, we don't need Jason on right now. Now,
we'll get to Nate Marshare in a minute.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
But Jason Michel from Taylor County, great sheriff and really
a guy who has been courageous in the tip of
the spear on trying to figure out a way to
reduce crime in his community by being a place where
ICE can operate to get rid of the criminal element
who happens to be here illegally. There are laws that
are passed because of Sheriff Michael. I mean, the dude's
a legit leader. But this is what he's got on
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his website out of public safety and crime. There's been
a considerable erosion of public safety and an exponential increase
in crime in Colorado that must be addressed quickly and effectively. Okay,
in terms of the specific stuff, there's no specifics on here.
Now do I believe that Jason Michel understands what policies
could be put in place to make I do, Maybe
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more than anybody else on the ballot. He just doesn't
list them here. He says the focus the administration will
be on the safety of our residents, not on policies
which excuse criminal behavior, decriminalized crime, great legal drug use,
legal immigration, human trafficking must no longer be taught.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Agreed, agreed, agreed. But nothing on here is a specific
in terms.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Of a policy. And that's okay. I just found it
interesting because we see we run the gamut here. Then
there's Mark Basley. He's a state center from Douglas County.
Big fan obviously of Mark in our legislature. I've known
him for a long long.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Time, going way back to even maybe before he was
the chair of the Doug Co GOP.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
He too, has just sort of this restoring rule of
law a paragraph. It's just a paragraph. He says, will
fully fund law enforcement. He talks about crime festering under
soft policies, but nothing really specific. In fact, more specifics
about fighting wildfires than in fighting crime.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
And it makes me wonder does that matter?
Speaker 2 (31:28):
And is that something that is a reflection of the
fact that these guys are seeing polls that show that
for most Colorado voters, crime is not in the top
couple issues. Affordability tends to be. I don't know, But
how about this man you go to Barb Kirkmeyer's website.
She doesn't have written policy on it, but she does
have about a minute and a half minute and forty
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seconds of her talking about crime. Barb's been always a
great support in the legislature for the things that prosecutors
have asked of her at law enforcements asked her.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
She's always been great at doing those things. I think
she gets it too.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
In fact, there's probably nobody that understands the inner workings
of state government and certainly the budget. Nobody on the ballot,
and I'm talking Wiser and Bennett as well knows it
as well as barbar Kirkmeyer.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
But it's this video and you'd have to go and
watch that. I can't play that whole thing here.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Now, now, let's just before we get to mister Marx,
who I don't know, let's get to the Democrat side
of things. If it's any indication, Michael Bennett has no
reference at all, none, zero, to crime or public safety,
not a single thing, not really a word about it.
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In fact, he talks about a bunch of the other
things that you can imagine a Democrat for a governor
would be talking about. But it makes sense to some
of these things because I imagine it's all pole driven.
But this is what he's got his priorities. Affordability, affordable
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homes for every family. My god, there's a lot of
fundraising things. Education as a gateway to good paying jobs,
keeping Colorado kids safe online. Maybe that's his homage to safety,
building opportunity for Colorado, clean air of course, affordable energy
of course, and then standing up for Colorado, which is
also a theme of Big Phil.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Who's the Attorney General?
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Now listen, I've got the two that have the most
comments on her, the most detail in terms of a
public safety plan. Our Big Phil Wiser, our attorney general,
And Big Victor Marx, who I don't know, I've never met.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
And frankly, I don't know if he's big. I just
is he big Ryan? Is he a big guy? I
don't believe. So who's that Victor Marx? What are you big?
Define he's a six foot tall like he's Okay, he's
taller than me.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
He's taller than me.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
I'm five to ten, Okay, husky dude, fit dude, I
just don't know. Pretty fit, looks pretty good for his age.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
Ok.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
We're going to go through their two policies that they've
laid out on their gubernatorial websites. Spoiler alert Man Victor's
is full of citations to things in the law that
don't exist or don't say what he says they do,
and spoiler alert, Phil's got a bunch of things on
here that have nothing to do with accountability. Stick around, though,
three or three seven two fifty five five seven seven
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three nine.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
George Brockler on The Dan Kapla Show
This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
Well, happy Tuesday to you. It is December the sixteenth.
You've only got nine days until Christmas. My name's George Brockler.
I'm the district attorney for the fight in twenty third
Judicial District, encompassing Douglas, Elbert, and Lincoln Counties.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
You know it better as the safe place.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
If you're driving between Denver and Colorado Springs, that's probably
where your stress is at its lowest as you go
up and down I twenty five. Listen, you only have
nine days left to get your stuff under the tree.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
But it's worse than that.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
If you're like me, you got inundated with emails today
from different vendors saying you got to get your stuff
in the mail right now.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
You've got If you don't do it today, that's it.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
It's over.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
You're going to get it after Christmas. I really don't
know how bad that is.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I don't know the answer to that I do remember
thinking at one point Black Friday's kind of the kickoff,
I'll get it all done, And of course I've not
gotten it all done. I really have no sense of
what I've purchased, what I wanted to purchase, none of
that stuff. Listen, I'm gonna be with you for all
two hours to day until six o'clock. I am the
criminal justice guy. We do talk about stuff like that.
(01:19):
I'll tell you what I want to do.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
And we got a guest coming on at the top
of the fifth of the of the five o'clock hour,
I guess that's the fifth o'clock hour, and.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
That is to talk to you about some of these
gubernatorial candidates. Now, I had had this idea for a
while now, and that is Look, we're starting to see
pretty much. I think all the candidates that are going
to get any sort of play, they've already come out.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Now.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
It would be not uncommon or impossible for someone to
jump in in January or February, but they'd have to
have some good name ID, they'd have to have a
little dollar or an ability to raise it to get in.
But right now we have a good sense of who's
in the field for sure. On the Democrat's side, and
it comes down to just Bennett Wiser and then on
the Republican side, and those are the six folks that
(02:07):
were invited to go do this great debate thing.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Man, I wish I could be here for this thing.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
And I'll be real candid with you about why I
can't go. And I wanted to go and hang out
with Mandy and Ryan and Steve and Steve and do
all this, but it's a drill weekend for me.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
And I take.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Very seriously the idea that when I put on the uniform,
I just can't really get into the politics stuff. It
just doesn't feel like the right thing to do. So
I was bummed about that. I wish there was a way.
In fact, I was kind of counting on Victor Mark saying, hey, no,
I'll do it. If you move it a week or two,
then I'd have been there. I'd have been sitting there
eating popcorn with the rest of you guys watching this thing.
(02:43):
I wish I could go to that event. So what
I did was I sat down, I went through all
the websites of the major candidates. I'm gonna call major candidate,
so I'm not dismissing anyone. There's probably a bunch of
people I don't know who could be great candidates, and
you're welcome to call the show and let us know
your thoughts on that. Once I memorize the number three
h three seven one three eighty two fifty five.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Is that right? Did I just nail that? I think
you stuck the landing like Kerrie Strug in the Olympic game. Well,
that's wonderful.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
And there's text messages. Yeah, and the text message number
is we're seven five seven seven three nine. Send him
Dan five seven seven three nine. If you kick off
the text with Dan and George is awesome. You don't
have to put in that last part. But it'll get
to me and I'll read those texts. But this is
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my point. I went through all their websites, and they
all have websites, and I went through and saw, look
what are they saying about public safety? And you'll be
surprised about what they're saying and not saying. I'll give
you a real quick example. Greg Lopez has really nothing
about public safety at all on his and it's not
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really an issues page. It's sort of a priorities page.
And I've known Greg for a long time. He's an
Elbert guy, twenty third JD guy. He's great, but he
has really nothing on there. He talks about funding law enforcement.
That's it, and it's just it's a burb. It's not
even like a whole sentence or a paragraph. And then
you fast forward all the way to Victor Marks, where
I want to spend a little bit of time talking
about because Ryan had this epic interview earlier today with
(04:14):
him that replayed right before Dan Show here, and that
is he has a ton of detail in his plan
and we'll go through some of that stuff at some point.
I want to really talk about everybody's but I'll be
honest with you. I started going through some of that
plan and looking up the statutory citations and whatnot. They
are not what he says they are. Now, I don't
(04:36):
know why that is. I'm pretty sure he didn't draft
this thing. But whoever he's hired to flesh out his
public safety policies with all of these statutory citations, I
don't know if they were drunk, I don't know. I
don't know if it was Ai, Like he just asked
AI what to do for a public safety policy thing?
But there's a lot that's wrong here, and we'll go
(04:59):
through some of that stuff, but it runs the gamut.
Right Then there's Wiser, there's Bennett, and I want to
talk about those things, and I really wanted to have
an exciting conversation with you.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
I still do about public safety.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
But I'm at an event last night for a guy
named Nate marsh Now Nate is a Republican dude running
in I think it's HD forty three House District forty
three that is the only elected office, not a.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
School board one because that's non partisan, the.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Only elected office in Douglas County that is currently occupied
by a Democrat, and it's by a guy named Bob Marshall.
And Nate had an event last night at the Highlands
Ranch Senior Center where he kind of helped kick off
his campaign.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
It was I think he'd kicked it off a little bit.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Before I had the opportunity to go there, talk for him,
listen to him, and he's going to be on at
the top of the five o'clock hour. But at that event,
I end up talking to a super smart politico guy,
and I'm super excited to talk about public safety today
and I want to talk about what the candidates have done,
and he says, look, a be honest with you, George, Uh,
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it's not in the top ten of issues for voters
that we have pulled over the last few months.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
And I could.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
I was like, that's not possible, because Colorado's a dumpster
fire of public safety. I mean, the numbers are ridiculous
and we're the third, you know, worst or least safe.
Maybe we're the same, I mean these are and I
feel a little bit myopically focused on it because this
is my day gig. This is what we do, right like,
we fight for public safety and justice on an ongoing,
everyday basis. So to hear that it's not even in
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the top ten, I said, well, what are the top
like three issues? And he said affordability, affordability, affordability, and
then a bunch of other things after that, and I
thought that can't be. So what I'm really interested to
know at three zero three seven one, three eighty two
fifty five is it is public safety an issue? And
if so, what are you looking for from a candidate
(06:52):
for this? And we'll continue to talk about these things.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
I want to.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Though when we get back, and I should have asked Ryan,
because I'm not the consummate professional that I should be.
I should have asked the veteran Ryan. We have like
a break at fifteen ish.
Speaker 5 (07:07):
Fifteen ish and forty five ish, but you better get
out by twenty nine to thirty or.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Santa is going to be mad at you. Okay, Now
that's the hard one. That's right at the top of
the hour, fifty eighth thirty. No no euphemisms there, that's
just a hard break.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Take it to this time. I'm slowing down.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Fu'll tie Carols. But look what I want to do
before we take our first break, though, is I want
to tease kind of this next segment because Ryan had
a very good interview with a candidate for governor who
I've seen a poll where he has some good numbers.
They're not great, They're not insurmountable good numbers. I think
a lot of people don't know who this guy is,
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but he seems to have better name ID than a lot.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Of the other candidates.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
And he is not going to be at this debate
thing that Steve Wells and Steve Reams, Ryan and Mandy
are all participating in. And so I was anxious to
listen to the interview, And there's this one one clip
in particular that I wanted to tease you with because
in responding to Ryan's questions.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
About the debate, this is what he said.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
This debate was set up by Steve Wells and Sheriff
Steve Rings with a month notice exactly, So it would
have been December tenth, preparing for January tenth.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
You already had some events schedule. Correct.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
How far in advance would you require notice in order
to participate in a debate.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Well, it just depends on my schedule and what I
have going. Look, I'm going to debate when I want
and who I want period. WHOA I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
That caught me by surprise when I heard that, Like
that is the talk of someone who isn't just supremely confident.
That is someone who's talking like this is our race
to lose, and I'm going to do the things that
I think are best for my campaign, independent of whether
or not they please the voters or the Party faithful
or whomever it is. Is certainly an interesting thing. What
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did you hear there? And we'll come back and play
a couple of their clips, But I'm anxious to know
what you think about the public safety thing three or
three seven one three eighty two fifty five. Is it
a big deal for you? And if it's a big deal,
is it a big deal that you would consider in
deciding which gubernatorial candidate to support come next June, because
that's the primary.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
We'll talk about November later.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Until that time when we come back from this break,
it's George Brockler filling in for the great one, Dan
Caplis right here on the Dan Capla Show.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
And now back to the Dan Caplis Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
George Brocker filling in for Dan Caplas. You got me
till six o'clock. Happy to be on with you are
text line five seven seven three nine full of texts already.
You can also give us a call three or three
seven one three eighty two fifty five if you want
to be part of the conversation. I heard, by the
way yesterday Ryan, the conversation you had with Dan about
(09:54):
Dan asked, look, am I like the last show that
does any phone calls from listeners, and you said, well,
you're about to be show number two here in the
morning following in that model.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
I love that too, Man, that is a big, big deal.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
In fact, if I couldn't engage listeners either, talking is
the best on the phone, it would make this job
more boring, do you know what I mean? Like you
just want to have that back and forth and share
some ideas.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
Well, you used to occupy mornings over on that other
station over there, not too far from here, and that
was a big part of your show then, right.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
It was?
Speaker 3 (10:30):
I listen. I thrive on the interaction.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
I don't feel comfortable listening to myself talk, which a
lot of people say that's crazy, but I'm telling you,
whether it's the career field I've chosen, which is talking
to jury's or the public or the radio, or I
much rather have a conversation with someone than just sort
of pontificate from back here and then find out later
on that someone had an opinion they didn't want to
(10:53):
share with me.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
I'd just much rather have that. I couldn't agree more.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
I like the interaction live of having callers on the air.
The texts are great, too, and I think in a
lot of ways those tend to be more convenient for listeners.
They can just fire a text and beyond their merry
way and on our end we can plug them in
as we go at our discretion with a call. It
is dedicated times, so at that time live in real time.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
You know you're having that engagement with a listener.
Speaker 5 (11:20):
But there's no other medium that really allows for that,
you know, podcasts format, television, yes.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
And it's unique to talk radio. Well.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
And look, if we're talking puer safety here, and I
imagine a good number of listeners are in the car
right now, on their way from work to some other place.
Maybe they've got a body in the trunk. No one knows,
but it's easier and safer to bluetooth call this thing
in rather than work your thumbs on the phone while
you're texting into five seven seven three nine. Having said that,
we've already got some text here. Look who the cat
(11:48):
dragged in? Orgey in the house. That's our good buddy Alexa.
Oh boy, George exclamation points. Also very night, very nice
missing a bromance date with Sheriff Reems. Lol, that would
be an awesome opportunity, by the way, to be up there.
George is awesome, and so is his son Trey. How
is his wheelchair working for him? That's from Bert wheelchair
(12:11):
is great. In fact, he had upgraded from one to
the other the other one kind of got one out.
For those who don't know, my son's in a wheelchair,
he's got muscular dystriviee. But he's kicking butt up at CSU.
In fact, he's going to graduate a semester early night.
I know, believe me, I know, I graduated a semester
e lait.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
What on purpose? If so?
Speaker 2 (12:32):
There is okay, okay, he's studying something bio bunch of science.
Ye words in it, and I think medical something is
in there, but I can't remember. Maybe George B should
run for Attorney General because Griswold is an ept krupt.
Don't listen to these folks. They are full of blank
and some stuff. Public safety is important.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
I agree with that, I do. I mean, that's been
my career field.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
First off, I can't run for AG and it's not
there's no legal impediment to it for those of you.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
The thing it's really.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Because I am not convinced Colorado is yet ready to vote.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Something other than the D or the R on the name.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
In no way do I believe that people voted for
Phil Wiser or four Shared Polis or four Jenna Grizswold.
They voted against the Republicans on the ballot. I believe that,
and I'm not sure that that's changed yet. And so
what that means is I just can't go through the
rest of whatever I have left of life. Having lost
to both Wiser and Griswold in that same lifetime.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
There's no recovery from that, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (13:38):
That's I feel like I couldn't look my friends in
the face anymore, my family, I'd have to move to
some other place.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
I'd have to change my name, would definitely need therapy,
and that would be a lot to process.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Well.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
I still have a.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Facial tick when people bring up the Wiser thing, I
go back to a Herbert Lohm kind of thing with
the eye twitch and all that other stuff. Here's one
I didn't realize you were currently in the military. Please
give us a brief outline of your service. My son's
a Marine corporal, thank you, and my daughter's wyoming Guard PFC.
You raised some patriots, sir. I'm a former combat engineer
sergeant bless you man. I'm at the tail end of
(14:12):
a long career and uniform I am currently our senior
colonel in the Colorado National Guard. And I mean that
in all the gray hair ways, you can imagine my
runway runs out at the end of May where I
will be. I will be retired, whether I want to
or not. It's called an mr D date. I just
don't have any runway left. Could not figure out a
way to get promoted to general.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
But that's okay.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
I mean, that's not everybody gets to be a colonel.
So I'm happy with where I ended up. And I
got my commissioner out of ROTC at CU Boulder, and
then a bunch of other things in between, including a
small stint in Iraq doing some stuff and other things.
Here's one, George, You're not as good as my beard.
Bro still awesome. Lo ol, cheers, that's probably true. Another
(14:57):
one awesome, doctor Brockler. Or maybe Ryan wants to chime in.
Can you convince me that Victor Marx is not Dan Mays? Yeah,
not literally, but he's starting to give me the same
feeling Mays did at about this point before the election. Ryan,
you know what that brings us right back to this thing.
(15:18):
You got to sit down say hey, by the way,
I don't know if you ever described this on the show,
the time that you had him in the studio. But
I got a description of what the studio look like
like right now. If someone could see in here, it's
me sitting in this room. If I'm ever on with
Dan or Steve Reams or something, it's one other person.
You're back there behind the glass rocking all the important stuff.
What was it like when you did the Marx interview?
(15:40):
It was passionate, it was intense.
Speaker 5 (15:42):
He was sitting directly in that chair to your left,
as it were, and he had his whole entourage with him.
Describe that. What do you mean by entouri way? His
wife Eileen was there sitting in the corner where I'm
pointing right now, if you can look. And then Roger Hudson,
his communications directory. He had some video technicians as well,
a lot of people in attendance there that joined him
(16:02):
for the appearances.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
This is not a huge room either, so when I
heard there was like seven ish people in here. And
Roger's a friend. I've known Roger Hudson for a long
long time. Goodfellah lives out where in the area where
I do. I like him, But it sounds like it
was packed in here. Did you feel ever at all?
I'm asking a question.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
I already know the answer.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
You do you ever feel Ryan intimidated by the number
of people that were in here.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
No, it's not my first rodeo, and you know, whether
it was sports or anything else, I'm kind of used
to people that might have a group with them, and
you know, he wanted to document it, and I think
this is for the purposes of his campaign, which makes sense.
They're going to publish the video and put it on
his website, maybe use clips from it. So I'm just
glad he agreed to be in studio too. It was
a very frank exchange. I think listeners probably gained a
(16:49):
lot from it, and I'm interested to hear what they thought.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
I'm interested as well, and then we'll get to the
public safety stuff too with some of these other candidates.
I don't know this guy, but what intrigues me about
him is people I like him, like Lauren Bobert, like
Heidi Ganal and I just haven't had a chance to
really get to know this guy or talk to him.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
But listen when we come back, love to hear from you.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Five seven, seven, three nine three zero three seven one
three eighty two to fifty five.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
George Brocklay on the Dan Kaplas Show.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
You're listening to the Dan Kapliss Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
George Brockler fill it in for Dan Caplas right here
on the mighty six thirty k how we've got calls.
You can join them three zero three seven one three
eighty two fifty five.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
You can text us too.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
We're getting a lot of texts today, five seven, seven
three nine. Just those five numbers five seven, seven three nine.
Let's go right to the videotape. And actually it's John Incentennial. John,
you're on six thirty KHW with George Brockler on the
Dankpla Show.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
What do you think?
Speaker 6 (17:59):
HI have a lot of respect for you, George and
Joy listening say you, thank you. I got Alard on
my phone at three twenty two this afternoon, and I
know there's so much scamming and whatnot on the phone,
but this one kind of concerned me a little bit,
says breaking dam is close to passing Bill two twenty
(18:22):
seven using retirement funds to play for unemployment benefits to
illegals be heard call now and there's a phone number
eighty five five four one zero thirty four eighteen. I
was wondering if you were aware of any such thing
as it as.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
I'm not one.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
I don't think it's true for a couple of reasons.
Here in the state of Colorado, the Dems aren't in
session right, so, like, there's no state legislature to pass
a law that could be signed and go into effects,
So I'm dubious of that. And the Dems don't control
anything in WA Washington, d c. Except sometimes the narrative,
but they don't They're not in a position to pass that.
Unemployment is a peculiarly state run thing, So I think
(19:09):
this isn't so much a scam as is trying to
drive you to call them and see if you can't
participate in a poll or give them information where you
can become a person they pester for donations or something
like that.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
But it doesn't sound legit to me.
Speaker 6 (19:24):
I didn't think so. And you know, I don't call
numbers unless I know what they are.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
So you mean like three or three seven one, three
eighty two fifty five? You called that one? You nailed that.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Hey, what do you think of this? What do you
think of all of this public safety stuff? How big
a deal is that to you? As you start to
consider next year's gubernatorial race.
Speaker 6 (19:47):
It's major. I'm retired law enforcement, so I back the
throw law enforcement. Uh candidate?
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Okay, good?
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Who do you like out of the field, by the way.
Speaker 6 (20:04):
Uh, To be real honest with you, I need to
kind of look at it. I know a couple of
people I don't like.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
Yeah, who don't you like? And why? Oh?
Speaker 6 (20:16):
I don't like?
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Yes, sir either?
Speaker 6 (20:19):
Well any of the Democrats. I just sound very in
trusted the ones for the Republicans. I'm really enjoying listening
to the interviews that you guys are having. Oh, I
think thank your other shows have so Yeah, I'm Jael
listening for the best.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
John, thank you for the call, my man, I really
do appreciate this. John's line is open three or three seven,
three eighty two fifty five calling us from way down
south in Pueblo or David.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Do you call Pueblo or Peblo or Pieblo? How do
you call it?
Speaker 7 (20:55):
People say it both ways. It's really Pueblo.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Okay, Pueblo, man, how are you doing? Thanks for in
what are your thoughts?
Speaker 7 (21:02):
I'm good and I'm the gentleman of Texas saying I
don't run for attorney general for two races. But George,
I'd see a bigger problem in the state, and I
keep on the on the van wagging the drum for it,
and that is are elect Did you really lose both times?
Speaker 3 (21:21):
I did?
Speaker 2 (21:21):
I when I ran in twenty eighteen, Man, I don't
have any doubts. I lost, And listen, I'm proud of
what we accomplished to this day, and we're talking now
it's seven years later. No Republican running for a state
constitutional office has ever gotten more votes than I have.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
I'm proud of that. But we still lost.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
And given every other election that cycle and sort of
how it shook out, including the ones where we elected
you know, Lauren Bolbert by a good number and and
all these other I do feel like it was legit.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
I just haven't seen anything that tells me otherwise.
Speaker 7 (21:52):
So, George, I listened to another patriot in the state.
He's got positives and negatives, but I like him a lot,
and I've met him and bot him. A gentleman named Joel.
I'm pretty sure he recuaced you on one of his
recent podcasts.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
I know Joe, and I've known Joe for a long
long time, and I know that Joe. He was he
was a supporter for sure, and he is convinced that
I won that race. I just haven't seen anything that
tells me that.
Speaker 7 (22:21):
The reason why I say that is I personally canvas
after twenty twenty in Opaso County with a group of people,
a large group of people, and we weren't really trying
to prove with disproven and we were just trying to
verify the legitimate votes via affiday that signed. And I
will say that there was probably about a ten percent
(22:43):
air raid out there that we did found either except
the ballots. The people that didn't do it. I didn't
complete the ballot, and it wasn't by party. Of course,
there are the people that were rude, but there was
a group of people that just come get it on
their own, headed by a guy named Sean Smith. You
(23:03):
know him as well, No, I don't know him. But
our election in Colorado with that machine in the mail
in ballot, it's it is not accurate because Dan's one
of Dan's biggest issues and abortion, and you know, I'm
sent with Daniel Allen personally. But what I'm gonna say
(23:25):
about that is, do you really believe sixteen or seventy
percent of Colorado voted literally to have abortion upsel. Basically,
they're on the table alive.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
I don't think that's how it was framed. And if
I'm being candid man, I don't think that every voter
that casts a ballot has read the whole ballot, read
the language, read the blue book. I don't believe that.
I mean, the way our system is set up, David,
is that you and I can be the most educated
voters in Colorado and our votes get canceled out by
(23:58):
someone who has a ballot sitting on their counter in
an apartment complex in Denver. When a canvasser comes by
and says, hey, can I help you vote that thing?
I'll go take it in for you. That wipes out
you and me. I think that happens way more than
we know.
Speaker 7 (24:14):
Well, I can tell you that an example on Springs
of Past the county where and addressed that there was
not in there, I got thirty ballots. So there's there's
a lot of rooms for corruption out there. Part of
the deal with the registration well and the way the
blue books another very corrupt process too.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
We read what they write, if you read what they write.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
But I'm not just not sure many people do it,
And David, I have my own concerns about carpet bombing
the state with ballots and just counting on the.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Fact that we think that we're going to either eyeball
or use.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Some sort of a signature catching software to protect ourselves
from fraud. I have my own concerns about that. But
having said that, man, I need to see fraud. I
can't have someone say could have happened. I got a
see it, and I haven't seen.
Speaker 7 (25:01):
It so far, so I got I got one of
the thoughts.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Yes.
Speaker 7 (25:06):
So today it's a really nice lady out of the
Mid East coast who does a nice show. She's a mom,
caught kids, and she said that right now, resident and
Biden is having trouble is getting funds for his library,
a presidential library or residential library. He has like no
contributors eighty one million voters. That's a dollar twenty five
(25:31):
from every body. We could come up with a hundred
he needs, but he hadn't gotten a dime. So can
we start a fundraising for him?
Speaker 2 (25:41):
I look at this point, and I don't want to
be too disrespectful. I'm pretty sure we could just take
him to any building anywhere and tell him here's your library.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
And he's likely to believe it. And then we've saved ourselves.
Speaker 7 (25:53):
And I leave our governor. I leave our governor a
message every day on a lot of topics. Tina Peters
should not be in jail, but on that note, I
leave him a message. And today my message was, you know,
I told me what I just said to you, basically, yeah,
say you're kind of wealthy. Why don't you give him
the hundred millions?
Speaker 2 (26:13):
He's got hundreds of millions of bucks. Hey, David, thank
you for the phone call man. And I really do
appreciate the people that call in and encourage me to run.
It's it's flattering that people think I could do that job,
or at least I wouldn't be as bad at it
as other people running quick thing on the Tina Peters thing,
it's hard for me to comment on the sentence because
in light of what and Dan has done such a
great job highlighting this, in light of what you know
(26:36):
Polus has done with other people in terms of commuting
their sentences, cutting them short, all this other stuff, it's
really hard to reconcile nine years for that conduct.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
But I'm telling you looking at that case, and I followed.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
That case as much as I could given my schedule,
knowing the DA in Mason County, and I know that dude,
he's been a colleague, knowing how the system works and
knowing what she did.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
And she's guilty.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
She's just guilty, whether or not it requires nine years
of prison to make the point and to punish her
as something else.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
But I don't have concerns about that. I don't think
the fix was in. I don't think it was a setup.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
I don't think she was denied the ability to present
evidence that would have been presented in any other courtroom
in the state of Colorado, whether it was a Democrat
or Republican in place. We can talk more about who
the judge is and stuff, But that's a tough one
for me. Should she be in jail, that's someone else's
kind of a thing. But should she be convicted, Yes,
she should be convicted, that's my opinion. But listen, why
don't we come back. I want to take more of
(27:33):
your calls. I appreciate John and David. Their lines were
open three zero three seven one three eighty two fifty five.
Some more texts coming in at five seven, seven, three nine,
Ryan had an incredible interview with an Italian lady running
for the fourth CD. That's a text that came in
right here. Ryan was starting to shake his head. I
think at one point I heard her say, ab On Nunza, I.
Speaker 5 (27:54):
Liked about watching known As Together, that Netflix film starring
Vince Vaughan, and about the lasagna that I made. I
sent her a photo and she said it's not true
Italian because there wasn't sauce everywhere.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Like I'll go all over the walls, in the oven.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
And the pan and everything.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Just good to have you on. Listen.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
When we come back, we're going to get to more
of your text and calls. I want to start tearing
apart some of this public safety stuff by these gubernatorial candidates.
You'll be surprised I was as to what they're going
to say. George Brockler filling in for Dan Caplis on
The Dan Caplas Show.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
And now back to the Dankaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
George Brockler filling in for Dan Caplas.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
You got me for the whole next hour and the
remaining six or so minutes that we have until I
get kicked off the ear this hour. Our text line,
of course five seven seven three nine five seven seven
three nine. You got to start it off with Dan,
followed by dang George would be good looking, and then
whatever else you want to put on after that, and
(28:50):
then of course the phone number three oh three seven
one three eighty two fifty five. I want to start
having more detailed conversations about these gubernatorial candidates and their
public safety platforms, because, as you know, public safety in
Colorado's an issue and we kind of suck. And I
don't mean the law enforcers don't suck. I love our
men and women in blue. Prosecutors at least in our
(29:12):
jurisdiction are doing everything they can to make sure that
people are being held accountable. And we're getting prevention through
a deterrence as well as the other Hugham kind of
policies that are forced on us by the state.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
But what have other candidates said?
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Now you should know and I said this already, Greg
Lopez virtually nothing on his website at all about public
safety in terms of the priorities.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Talked about funding law enforcement. That's about it.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Well, we're going to go to Jason mikeel now I
know Jason Great Sheriff out of Teller County.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
What's that? Oh, we don't need Jason on right now. Now,
we'll get to Nate Marshare in a minute.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
But Jason Michel from Taylor County, great sheriff and really
a guy who has been courageous in the tip of
the spear on trying to figure out a way to
reduce crime in his community by being a place where
ICE can operate to get rid of the criminal element
who happens to be here illegally. There are laws that
are passed because of Sheriff Michael. I mean, the dude's
a legit leader. But this is what he's got on
(30:08):
his website out of public safety and crime. There's been
a considerable erosion of public safety and an exponential increase
in crime in Colorado that must be addressed quickly and effectively. Okay,
in terms of the specific stuff, there's no specifics on here.
Now do I believe that Jason Michel understands what policies
could be put in place to make I do, Maybe
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more than anybody else on the ballot. He just doesn't
list them here. He says the focus the administration will
be on the safety of our residents, not on policies
which excuse criminal behavior, decriminalized crime, great legal drug use,
legal immigration, human trafficking must no longer be taught.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Agreed, agreed, agreed. But nothing on here is a specific
in terms.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Of a policy. And that's okay. I just found it
interesting because we see we run the gamut here. Then
there's Mark Basley. He's a state center from Douglas County.
Big fan obviously of Mark in our legislature. I've known
him for a long long.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Time, going way back to even maybe before he was
the chair of the Doug Co GOP.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
He too, has just sort of this restoring rule of
law a paragraph. It's just a paragraph. He says, will
fully fund law enforcement. He talks about crime festering under
soft policies, but nothing really specific. In fact, more specifics
about fighting wildfires than in fighting crime.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
And it makes me wonder does that matter?
Speaker 2 (31:28):
And is that something that is a reflection of the
fact that these guys are seeing polls that show that
for most Colorado voters, crime is not in the top
couple issues. Affordability tends to be. I don't know, But
how about this man you go to Barb Kirkmeyer's website.
She doesn't have written policy on it, but she does
have about a minute and a half minute and forty
(31:49):
seconds of her talking about crime. Barb's been always a
great support in the legislature for the things that prosecutors
have asked of her at law enforcements asked her.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
She's always been great at doing those things. I think
she gets it too.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
In fact, there's probably nobody that understands the inner workings
of state government and certainly the budget. Nobody on the ballot,
and I'm talking Wiser and Bennett as well knows it
as well as barbar Kirkmeyer.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
But it's this video and you'd have to go and
watch that. I can't play that whole thing here.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Now, now, let's just before we get to mister Marx,
who I don't know, let's get to the Democrat side
of things. If it's any indication, Michael Bennett has no
reference at all, none, zero, to crime or public safety,
not a single thing, not really a word about it.
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In fact, he talks about a bunch of the other
things that you can imagine a Democrat for a governor
would be talking about. But it makes sense to some
of these things because I imagine it's all pole driven.
But this is what he's got his priorities. Affordability, affordable
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homes for every family. My god, there's a lot of
fundraising things. Education as a gateway to good paying jobs,
keeping Colorado kids safe online. Maybe that's his homage to safety,
building opportunity for Colorado, clean air of course, affordable energy
of course, and then standing up for Colorado, which is
also a theme of Big Phil.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Who's the Attorney General?
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Now listen, I've got the two that have the most
comments on her, the most detail in terms of a
public safety plan. Our Big Phil Wiser, our attorney general,
And Big Victor Marx, who I don't know, I've never met.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
And frankly, I don't know if he's big. I just
is he big Ryan? Is he a big guy? I
don't believe. So who's that Victor Marx? What are you big?
Define he's a six foot tall like he's Okay, he's
taller than me.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
He's taller than me.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
I'm five to ten, Okay, husky dude, fit dude, I
just don't know. Pretty fit, looks pretty good for his age.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
Ok.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
We're going to go through their two policies that they've
laid out on their gubernatorial websites. Spoiler alert Man Victor's
is full of citations to things in the law that
don't exist or don't say what he says they do,
and spoiler alert, Phil's got a bunch of things on
here that have nothing to do with accountability. Stick around, though,
three or three seven two fifty five five seven seven
(34:18):
three nine.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
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