August 20, 2025 • 34 mins
In the second hour of today's show, George speaks with his own son, Geoff Brauchler, as well as Colorado House Minority Leader Rose Pugliese
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Dan Caples and welcome to today's online podcast
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
Rockler filling in for Dan Caplis. Dan will be back
after he kicks the.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
You know what now to the guys that are trying
to withhold a little bit of justice from Dan's clients.
Until then, you've got me. I am the current and
elected district Attorney for the twenty third Judicial District.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
There's a lot.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Going on in government, even outside of the courts, nothing
that you normally care about, but it turns out we've
got a little bit of a budget kerfuffle going on
up under the Gold Dome. And to help us have
a conversation about what's about to kick off tomorrow, is
the House Minority Leader A Rose by any other name
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would likely be a little bit taller. It's Rose Paglisi Rose.
Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Thanks George, and welcome to your son. That's exciting to
have a student reporter in today.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
He's got some questions ready for you. Rose, so he's
gone through a whole bunch in your past. I made
it up, Rose for purposes of what's coming up tomorrow.
Talk to us about how important what is it going
to take place is and what can folks do not
just to stay aware, but to stay involved in trying
to make sure that the government doesn't dip its hand
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any deeper into our pockets.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
No, absolutely, and thank you for fitting me in today.
I know you guys have a really busy schedule, but
with special sessions starting tomorrow, I think it's really important
that your listeners know that there are ways for them
to get involved. So Special Session starts tomorrow. It is
going to go fast and furious, but Republicans have a
lot of great bills that we can use support. We
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need people to testify. We don't know yet what committees
are going to go to or what time will start
or probably be I'm estimating around eleven thirty, but no
guarantees there. We start Special Session at ten. They'll then
be assigned to committees and then people can testify either
in the capital or remotely online. We will have all
that information on Colorado House republicans dot com website. So
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directing people to go there for current and fast information
and talking points about bills. But basically, you know, the Democrats,
the Speaker said in an Executive Committee meeting, so completely public,
don't let a good crisis go to waste. They're blaming
their misspending and mismanagement of the Colorado budget, which you
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and I know and have followed through the years. On
HR one. I mean, the Joint Budget Committee on June
eighteenth had projections that the state budget was already going
to have a shortfall of seven hundred million, and that
was before HR one was even put into effect. And
then most of what happens, you know, tax flies through
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HR one doesn't even take effect until twenty six, twenty seven.
So this special session is premature. The Democrats are using
it in a partisan fashion, not to help the people
of Colorado, but to use HR one as an excuse
to raise taxes on the hard working people that we
fight to protect.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Is the basis for it being premature.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
And we're talking with House Minority Leader Rose Paglici because
they're trying to avoid doing this in an election year.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
So to be honest with you, I think they want
to they want to bring this as an issue they
want to blame Republicans for Democrat and spending, and I
think they want to start early on it. You know,
I'm not sure that you know, not all the bills
have been introduced. I don't know if there's constitutional amendments
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or referendums coming forward. All of that is possible in
a special session.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
It's possible.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
We haven't seen those bills yet. It's hard because most
of us have who have bills. I have a bill
to protect tabor, the Taxpayer Bill of Rights. You know,
we put our bills online and we were transparent, so
the people have CALLO can see what we're working on.
But not all the bills are online right now, so
it's a little bit hard to tell exactly what their
motivation is. But normally, if there's a budget shortfall, it
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would go through the Joint Budget Committee, whose only job
is to focus on the budget and dealing with issues
like this. So I think it's premature without the Joint
Budget Committee doing network.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
I think I heard you say, and this is a
little bonkers to me. If we're all in this together,
if this is all going to be the process of
some attempted even if it's failed by partisan effort at
addressing these issues, which are clearly the result of the
leadership of the party in power. You don't know what
the bills are yet this thing starts tomorrow. This feels
very Nancy Pelosi, like we got to vote on it
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to find out what's in it.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
When do you get told?
Speaker 3 (04:47):
When do you and the other legislators get told, Hey,
here are the bills we're going to be debating and
voting on.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Well, so we sit in the chamber and we listen
to the bills being introduced and assigned to committee. At
that point the bills will be available for us all
to read together in the moment.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Good lord, so they know.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
I mean that clearly the House leadership on the other
side knows what's going on, and they know what's coming.
Why not invite you into the process before you, guys
cut the ribbon on this special session?
Speaker 4 (05:19):
Well, I mean, I think that would be a great idea.
I mean, there are a lot of budget items that
we could talk about and maybe find some consensus on. Again,
you know, the Joint Budget Committee is a bipartisan committee.
Every bill that comes out of the Joint Budget Committee
must have unanimous approval by all of the members Democrats
and Republicans.
Speaker 6 (05:39):
So why isn't.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
This going through that bipartisan process first? Why aren't the
people who actually understand all the intricacies.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
Of the budget.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Why aren't they the ones that are leading this charge?
I don't know why the governor and the Speaker, other
than they have their own agenda, are the ones who
are leading something that truly should be a Joint Budget
Committee item for them to discuss and work through, and
then if we need a special session to adopt their recommendations,
that's appropriate. But to start with the legislature instead of
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the Joint Budget Committee just is not the typical process.
And I think just leaves to questions about the motivation
about the special session?
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Is part of that rep I mean, is this the
result of disorganization or is this a tactical decision to
deprive the other side of the opportunity to meaningfully scrutinize
these things.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
You know, my very first special session, if I recall correctly,
it was on property tax, and this is exactly how
it started. The Democrats brought their bills, Republicans brought their bills.
All the Republican bills were killed in committee. All the
Democrat builds, not all of them, but the ones that
they wanted move forward, and that was a debacle of
a special session that then resulted in Proposition age age,
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which the people of Colorado, thank you so much, I'll
defeat it. And then we had to go back to
a special session where we did have some bipartisan conversations
and ultimately had bipartisan property tax release. So again we
have seen this story play out before. Legislation is better.
I know you know they're my friends on the conservative
side who say there should be no bipartisan legislation. I
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get you, but the reality is that some of these
issues can be and should be solved in a bipartisan way,
especially when it talks about prioritizing the budget. We don't
have a revenue problem, we have a prioritization problem, and
Republicans should be at the table as we're discussing this
budget and deciding, you know, where the money is going
to help those most vulnerable in our communities. We all
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want to help people, But why aren't we doing it
together now?
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Is this special session time limited or can it turn
into runaway special session?
Speaker 4 (07:46):
I mean, technically there's not a time limit, right, it
cannot go for less than three days. It takes three
days for a bill to get through a process to
become law. But at this point, you know, I get
this question all the time, even for my own members.
How long do you think this is going to be?
There really is no prediction on how long this could be.
What I want to be clear, and you know you,
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George and I have talked about this before. What I
would like to see is that Republicans be able to
represent the voices of their people on the House floor
without being shut down or cut off by the majority.
We don't know what bills are going to come out
of committee. Again, I gave you my prediction, but if
Republican ideas cannot be heard and moved forward into law,
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we should at least have the opportunity on the House
floor without being shut down, without the question being called
or limited debate. We should be able to have our
chance to be able to represent our people on that
House floor. So depending on whether we get shut down
or not will depend on the length of the special session.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
In my opinion, Rose Pli, House Minority Leader, can you
suffer through? One more question from another member of the media.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
His name is Jeff Yes, Jack go for it.
Speaker 7 (09:02):
Yeah, So I turn eighteen next week, and that means
that I'm going to be voting age and actually participate
in a lot of the uh, you know, politics and
government things. But I'm wondering, is there like any way
that we as voters can actively, you know, impact the
situation and help make sure that, you know, something like
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this doesn't happen in the future.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Oh, there's a lot of unpacking that question, Jeff, and
it's such a good question. I'm going to talk about
the short term and then we can kind of talk
a little bit about the long term. But in the
short term, whether you're a voter or not, you have
the ability to come to the People's House and testify
on any bill, whether that's in person or we're now.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Back to the show.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Podcast idea heard make sure that both Democrats and Republicans
know where you're coming from. So that's the short term.
In the long term, there's a lot of change that
needs to happen. I'm hoping for a Colorado one day
for you that is defin more balanced, and we need
to restore balance in Colorado. But there's lots of opportunities
for you to engage on both the short term and
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the long term. And I'm sure, I mean, your dad's
a great I mean he's been a great mentor to me,
and so I'm sure he's a great mentor to you.
There are lots of opportunities for us all to work
about it, work together for a better Colorado.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Great question, great answer, Rose. Jeff showed me the little
hands hearts symbol when.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
You said and tour to him.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
But pretty sure it was a little sarcastic when it
came to dad. Nonetheless, when you guys achieve whatever is
you're going to achieve, I'd love to have you back,
whether it's me or Reams or Capitalists or whomever's going
to fill and love to have you back on to
talk about what took place behind the scenes.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
No, absolutely, I think we need to stay continuously engaged
and updated. Any opportunities, whether it's me or any members
of our leadership or caucus that is able to jump on,
even just for a couple of minutes and give you
all updates and previews would be really great. So thank
you for that opportunity.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Just a reminder, if the help you guys need down
there is from citizens satisfy, Where can people go online?
To figure out what's coming up, when and where or
should they just show up.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
So Colorado House Republicans dot Com will have links to
the bills and you know, obviously where our talking points are.
Ability for people to sign up to testify. If they
can't come down to the capital. If they're here at
the Capitol, obviously you can come to House Minority offices,
whether that's in the Senate or the House, and we'll
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be able to help direct you depending on what your
interest is or what you feel really passionately about.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
So come down to.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
The capital, come visit us. We'll get you where you
need to be.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Still working hard on behalf of all Colorades, trying to
grow us from the mighty nineteen to the mighty sixty five.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Maybe that's too ambitious, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
House Minority Leader Rose Paglisi, thank you so much for
coming on.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Thank you so much, George, Thanks Jeff for your question.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Yeah, thank you, Yeah, talk to you soon. Hey, listen,
we're gonna cut away for a break, love having Rose on.
When we come back, I want you to remember this phrase.
I'm an ag and kind of like where's Waldo. We're
gonna dive into some audio to find out if you
actually hear the phrase I'm an ag.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
It's hard to spot, but we'll do it together. Coming.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
I'm next to George Brockler filling in for Dan Caplis
on the Dan Caplis Show. Filling in for Dan Caplis
in studio with another member of the media. It's from
Rock Media down at the Rock Canyon High School there.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
His name is Jeff b. I know, I'm kind of well.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Hey, great questions. By the way, thanks to Assistant inn
Order Leader Rose POLICI. Coming to give us an update
on what's coming for us starting tomorrow with that special
session under the Gold Dome up north. Jeff, we were
talking off air about something and it's gonna be a
nice lead in here to this Attorney General thing because
I love this story and I love this audio that
we're going to go through together. But it's about integrity
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and one of the things that you're working on in
addition doing the Rock Media stuff and all that is
involved scouting. Yeah, talk about what you're you are like
on the precipice of putting this thing to bed.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
What is it?
Speaker 7 (13:17):
Yeah, So I've been working on trying to get my
Eagle Scout you know, it's the highest rank in scouting.
And I've been scouting since I was six, I think,
so it's been a long time to get here, twelve years.
But I need to, Like, I just finished all of
my Merit badges, I've done my Eagle Scout project. I
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just need to get a couple more signatures and then
I'm done. But I do need to get them quick.
I turn eighteen next Thursday, So that's the like hard
cut off.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Now.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Tell me about that, because what if you're like, oh,
I just forgot to get this thing done before I
turn eighteen, They're probably pretty forgiving about that, and they're like,
that's okay, you can have more time.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
No.
Speaker 7 (13:58):
I mean if it's like even if it's on your birthday,
they're not going to take it.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
They're really strict with it.
Speaker 7 (14:04):
It has to be before you're eighteen, unless you have
an extension, which is super rare.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
A couple things here, Jeff. Since you're turning eighteen, your
dad is very excited. He's no longer legally responsible for you. Remember,
no juvenile options if you get in trouble. That's from
our good friend Alexa, who is texting us from about fifteen.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Feet away, thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
You can do the same thing at five seven seven
three nine. Put Dan in there, but it'll come to
us here in the studio, or you can give us
a call. Of course, we'll take questions at three h
three seven one three eighty two fifty five.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
And that's true, Jeff.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
After a week from tomorrow, the next time you rob
a bank, it's for keeps man. I mean, that is
a that's a legit adult penalty. So I'd encourage you
to discontinue.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Every other time was the slap on the reskue?
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Now, well, if they caught you, Yeah, of course. The
eagle Scout thing. How big of a deal is that
to you? It's a really big deal. I mean, as
I said, it's been twelve years of my life. It's
been most of my developmental age, and.
Speaker 7 (15:00):
It's a you know, really important to me because it's
taken so long to get here, in so much effort
and work, and I'm really proud of everything that I've
done and all the people that have helped me, and
I'm thankful for all of it.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
You had to do an eagle project. Everybody does. It
has to be pre approved. There's some stuff that wanted
what did you do?
Speaker 7 (15:22):
So I, along with all the volunteers, constructed a pathway
at the Colorado Center for the Blind down in Littleton.
So they had like this big kind of like grassy
patch in their back. It's like a former YMCA that
was converted into a school for the blind, and they kind.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Of couldn't use it.
Speaker 7 (15:42):
It was covered in weeds, and I thought it would
be a really good idea to put in a kind
of walking path back there so they can get outside
and enjoy the great outdoors of Colorado, you know, the
three hundred days of sunshine that we get. And it
would also be good with you know, learning how to
use a cane and like walk. I mean, the work
that they do there is incredible. I have a rental
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like disorder myself, but it's nowhere near you know, like blindness.
So I think it's like insane how these people are
able to adapt to their circumstances and kind of grow
to accept their life as a disabled person and still
like grow and exceed all those boundaries. And I think
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it's incredible, and that's why I wanted to do a
project there.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Yeah, that's a pretty impressive, buddy. Why did you have
the path lead right into the middle of the street.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Kidding joking, it does. I'm totally joking. That does not
happen at all.
Speaker 7 (16:39):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
That's pretty fantastic, man, And that took a lot of coordination.
I remember you spent like an entire week just trying
to nail down the logistics of getting gravel, although you
didn't end abusing gravel and the trucks and the this
and the that and all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
That's a heck of an effort for a seventeen year
old kid.
Speaker 7 (16:59):
Yeah. Well, I mean it's all about learning that responsibility
and learning how to do a lot of project management
things like that. And I think it's like definitely probably
the most important part of the whole Eagle Scout process,
at least to me. You know, everyone else has like
different opinions, different things, different views, But I think the
project is the thing that I'll be most proud of,
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Like in thirty years, I can come back and I
can see it and realize that, you know, I spent
all that time working on it. The grand total of
hours including volunteer time was three hundred and thirty two
hours went on that project, buddy.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
That's a lot. Yeah, that's a lot that. Congratulations, man,
I'm so proud of you for doing that. Listen, we're
going to tease this next section here by asking you.
I sent you a link from x slash Twitter to
a video of a Rhode Island Special Assistant Attorney General.
Without getting into the details of it here, I'll.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Ask you a reaction. When we come I'll look at this.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
I'll ask you, you know what, when Ryan does that,
he's signaling George, you must stop talking because we have
a hard out in twenty seconds. We will play this
clip when we come back and get some reaction. Until then,
you're listening to me, George B. Another guy, Jeff Bee,
sitting in the studio right now filling in for the
magnificent Dan Kaplis on the Dankaples show.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Rock Media. It's actually the handle is.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
At RC Rock Media, which is, as Kelly pointed out
during the break, our Rock Media, which is fine. I
like it, It's fantastic. I am set to play some sound here,
but I'm gonna have to ask some intervention here from
Big Ryan because the mouse here.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
You're listening to the show podcast. How to spoil that?
Speaker 3 (18:54):
I think there's a K and a t but the
mouse does not work. Here's what's going on. If you
haven't seen this thing yet, you need to go out
there and google Rhode Island or r I Special Assistant
Attorney General. You can use the name Devin Hogan Flannagan
for this. Here is the story. If I could get
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from you, Ryan, if you could hit oh, Kelly, well
see Kelly, the little mouse flicky thing there when you yeah,
see what I'm saying. It's it's going we can't actually
make the mouse work.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Ryan, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 8 (19:28):
I'm going to come to the rescue. Give me a
number six if you would.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Okay, if I asked you.
Speaker 6 (19:35):
To turn off the body, can you have to turn
it off? And that's your poto.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
She's a lawyer, so she knows, well, that's bullet lawyer stuff.
So that's not true. So we gotta go.
Speaker 6 (19:44):
No it is. That's that's long.
Speaker 9 (19:46):
I'm an aging, I'm an agent.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
Good for you.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
I'll give you. We're going.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
Put your hands off, your.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Children out of here. Like I don't know why.
Speaker 10 (19:59):
Let's we'll break it up into some other stuff.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
It's what you're listening to right there is phenomenal video
And maybe it's because I'm in the game, right and
I think the I'm an a g thing. Let me
set the stage for you since you're not. If you're
driving in your car right now, hopefully you're not on
your phone looking at video. There are two blonde women
who I believe to be under the influence of alcohol.
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That's the only way you can ape like it. Yeah, yeah,
And they are outside of what looks to be a
restaurant and they're on the outside portion and Newport Rhode
Island police have been called to exit them from the property.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
And uh, I think the cops are fans. Fantastic. Jeff.
When you watch this, what were your takeaways to this?
Speaker 7 (21:03):
It was kind of just interesting, mostly because you know,
I'm not in this world except for like, you know,
hearing you talk about things. But it's kind of like
cool to I guess see. Uh, you know, justice taking
place right there. I mean in the video, there's like
you hear a bit from assumedly the manager or the
owner of the restaurant. Uh, and he's just like, man,
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just get them out of here. I don't care if
it's like a trespass. Put him in handcuffs, just get
him out of here. And It's kind of interesting also
because you know, as you yourself are a person in
a position of power like that, you know that it's
kind of a really bad move to try and say
what your position is because it's not going to get
you out of a crime.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Oh my goodness, it's not just a horrible look. And
so here's how it goes down. And Jeff's right, it
was fascinating to watch this thing take place. And if
we're in a place and time, by the way, where
people think they're going to use their position to get
out of accountability under the law or have to listen
to the police.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
This is such a phenomenal video.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
And I think this cop who you never see because
it's his body camp, I think this dude's a superhero
of sorts. He shows up on the scene totally professional.
He encounters these two drunk women who make white privilege
seem like it's in the rear view mirror. This is
white privilege on steroids or something like that. These these
ladies got.
Speaker 8 (22:24):
A question kind of following up, yeah on Jeff with
the g said, what does.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
She think that's going to get her? I'm an ag
I'm an ag.
Speaker 7 (22:32):
Oh.
Speaker 8 (22:32):
Then in that case, no, never mind, carry on like
you were.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
I know.
Speaker 7 (22:37):
Maybe it's it's just like you know, she thinks because
she has like a position of authority in the like
legal area of the government that will get her out of.
Speaker 8 (22:44):
It, she's expecting special treatment, right, Yeah, yeah, she's expecting
special treatment.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
I also think she misjudges her role in the criminal
justice system, which is one of superiority over law enforcement.
And it's not true like she's going to dictate to
them what the law is.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
These men and women, we.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Work together, but they don't answer to me, you know
what I mean. Like we heard Chief Jack Cowley on
and in the four o'clock hour. That dude has a
mission and responsibilities and he's been doing this thing for
thirty years. He's not going to just say, oh well,
George says, God forbid.
Speaker 8 (23:17):
You were pulled over and you were ineborated. I mean,
you would be booked, you would be charged that the
sheriff would have a job to do. And in contrast,
if the sheriff committed a crime, you're the prosecutor, you're the.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
District attorneys, right, you would have to file those charges.
Speaker 8 (23:29):
I mean, there's a certain order of operations here and
is this the clipper. At the beginning, she says, you
had to turn your body camera off?
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Yeah, yeah, that's it. I hope that's the clip.
Speaker 6 (23:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
So, but but here's what you're listening to with these two.
The cops roll up on her. They walk up on her, Hey,
what's going on kind of a thing, and she instantly
tries to legalize them or something, you know what, I mean,
legalise them, And she says, I know that your protocol
is that when a member of the public says to
turn off your body cam, you have to turn it off.
And I don't even know where that comes from, but
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she says it was such confidence, and then tries to
repeat I think the phrase is do we have that clip?
Speaker 6 (24:04):
Right?
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Is that another where she says your protocol is the
early parts before she gets to she's a lawyer, and
she's trying to tell them to turn off the body cam, which,
by the way, was smart on her part because this
bodycm is damning for her.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
I mean, it is embarrassing.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
But she tries to tell them multiple times, you know,
the protocol is, the protocol is the protocols And she's
repeating herself like a drunk wood you know what I mean,
like you just can't seem to wrap your mind around
the event.
Speaker 8 (24:33):
You can only imagine how obnoxious these two were in
the bar. And if she was dropping that line in there,
I'm an a g I can do whatever I want
and like, I'm sorry, I got to say it. White
girl wasted. That's what it is.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
White girl wasted. That white clause no loss. Another one.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
If there was some telling moment early on, it's when
you hear I believe one of the husbands who must
be dominated at home by these two women. The two
husbands us says to the cop, this is a friend
of ours from college. And right away I'm like, oh no,
like this this isn't gonna go well. Drinking girlfriend, drinking
buddies from college never ends well.
Speaker 8 (25:09):
So this clip we got to play it if you
don't mind us. So in this one, she's being dragged
away and she's losing her mind, she's screaming, she's kicking.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
That's the other blonde one. That's why they're non ag
the non age.
Speaker 8 (25:20):
Really well, then this is the one where if you
play the drinking game, like with the song Roxane and
turn on the red light rock Sand and one half
of the bar drinks for Roxanne, and one half of
the bar drinks for turn on the Red Light, and
this one you want to drink half of the audience for.
I'm right here, I'm right here, I'm right here, I'm
right here.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
That's her husband trying to calm her down. And shall
we try a husband if you know what I mean?
Mail the mail off camera is saying, I'm here, babe,
I'm here, babe. It was really Can you play that.
There's probably some things you had to beep up, but
do you have that clip? Yes?
Speaker 8 (25:55):
And let me just say there's not a lot of
y chromosome invauld here.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
We got the license. He's in the No, no, no,
don't set out of here. Get that get back right now.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
A team.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Drink every time she stays down.
Speaker 6 (26:20):
It's so cool.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
That's just so good right here, right here?
Speaker 8 (26:26):
Okay from apart, no, right here, I'm.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Right here, I'm right here. That's something you say good childbirth,
isn't it. I don't know if you say that when
they're getting hooked, you know?
Speaker 11 (26:39):
All right, Okay, I'm right here.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
Please, I'm scared right here.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Prior to being scared, she is just straight up mouthy.
Speaker 12 (26:50):
No fan I'm right here.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
No, no, no, I'm right here.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
I'm right here.
Speaker 12 (26:58):
No, relax, well, I this.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Is Lama's for being arrested. Breeze, freeze, relax. What's going Push?
Speaker 6 (27:09):
Push, You're overreacting, you're adding to overreact.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
You're overreact. You need to settle down, you need to
calm down. That's where you sell everyone.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
And this, by the way, is the Calmas should be
through the rest of the video, which she will never be.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
This calm over and I again.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
We didn't have happened.
Speaker 9 (27:28):
No, no, no, right here, right here, right prease reaction.
Speaker 6 (27:40):
This, I'm not the cor.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
All we're doing is putting her in the back of
an suv.
Speaker 6 (27:53):
The cor in the cart.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
A kid.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
They did the husband or boyfriend of favor man.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Can you imagine driving home with that.
Speaker 8 (28:24):
I'm not overreacting, You're overreacting. I gotta tell you, George,
as a former uber Lyft driver, gotta say I gotta
say it.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
I go downtown.
Speaker 8 (28:30):
I tell you, these people partying drunk women are way
more out of control than drunk dudes. It was just
a rule, and it was just like this.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Well, honestly, in college, you're sort of counting on that
there's that fine line between you know what I mean,
out of control good and you've just lit the fuse
on crazy and she just let her own fuse.
Speaker 11 (28:49):
Man.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
She just wanted from Lippy. Let's do this. Let's cut
away for a break. When we come back.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
There's a couple of the clips I want to pay
play to close this out, just because the I'm an
ag one that could be a career ender, we don't know.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Stick around.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Jeff and George filling in for Dan Caplis on the
Dan Capla Show, still.
Speaker 13 (29:15):
Trying to determine how to punish one of his lawyers
caught on video in an embarrassing arrest in Newport.
Speaker 14 (29:21):
In the video, which is trending and now being played
on cable news, that an assistant Attorney General kept telling
police about her position. Brian Crandle's working the story as
her boss speaks out for the first time, what do
you have to say?
Speaker 13 (29:33):
Brian Well, Dan Patrice Prosecutor Devin Hogan Flanagan repeatedly told
Newport police officers I'm an ag after a restaurant called
the cops wanting her and her friend out. Now, Attorney
General Peter Narona says he has not decided on what
to do with Flanagan, but it will involve he says,
an unpaid suspension. Well Assistant Attorney General Devon Hogan, Flannagan
(29:54):
only made things worse for herself.
Speaker 6 (29:55):
I'm an ad good for you.
Speaker 13 (29:59):
Let's start trying to tell Newport police officers she knew
protocol for body cameras after they tried to get her
to leave from outside a restaurant that.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Wanted flannagain and her friend gone.
Speaker 13 (30:09):
Thursday night, Flannagan's boss Peter and Rona on WPRRO radio
with Jeane Bellison's.
Speaker 12 (30:14):
Look, she's put me in a bad position. She's embarrassed herself, humiliated, herself,
treated the Newport Police department horribly. You know she is
going to take some steps to try to address it.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
And now back to the dan Taplas shows ultimately arrested.
Speaker 13 (30:30):
For trespassing after telling officers nearly a dozen times she's
an Agnrona says, Flannagin owes police and apology, and that
process is underway.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
As for her status.
Speaker 13 (30:45):
At the Attorney General's Office, where she tries cases in
front of the State Supreme Court.
Speaker 11 (30:50):
I have to give it some more thought. But the
excusable behavior and there will be a suspension without pay
here if I retain every sure, So she's not going
to continue, you know, to go on as if nothing happened.
Speaker 13 (31:01):
No answer at Flannagan's home today after someone who answered
her phone number yesterday told me no comment, and Rona
says he met with Flanagan yesterday and had her watch
the video books.
Speaker 12 (31:11):
She humiliated herself and regardless of what happens, you could
be her employment with us. She's going to have a
long time coming back to this. It's just really unfortunate.
Speaker 13 (31:20):
Flannagan makes one hundred and thirteen thousand dollars a year.
She does not yet have a court date on the
trespassing charge, as nothing has been filed in court yet.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
I'm Brian Krandlin WEC ten years.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Jeff and George filling in for Dan caplis my favorite part.
Ryan and Jeff is of course, as she's saying for
the one hundredth time, I am an age and the
cop just slams the door after a like I'm an ach.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
I mean, it was just it was too perfect.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Let's go to the phone lines right now, Gary from Denver,
you're on the Dan CAPLA show with Jeff and George.
Speaker 5 (31:50):
What are you thinking, Gary, I'm thinking I'm Bear Creek
High School class in nineteen seventy one, there before you
was born.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
No, buddy, I believe me. I was.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
I wish that was before I was born. I'm class
of eighty eight. I graduated when I was two. No,
I'm kidding.
Speaker 5 (32:07):
Oh so yeah, okay, Well Gary, what do you got
for Well, I went to Bear Creek. I started Burt
Creek in sixty eight.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
That was before.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
Also, I also share a birthday with your oldest son.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Oh you do fantastic, Well, happy birthday then you just
had one.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
Yeah, and he just turned twenty one.
Speaker 11 (32:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Man, great memory, Gary, that's fantastic.
Speaker 5 (32:30):
I remember hearing you on his when he called in
on his eighteenth birthday.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Oh, buddy, that's a great memory. You're the male Alexa.
Speaker 5 (32:38):
Do you know what happened exactly fifty years to the
day prior to to your son turning eighteen? No, exactly
fifty years prior, huh lest ground combat troops left Vietnam.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Oh wow, what a great what a great fact.
Speaker 5 (32:56):
Yeah, and I was class seventy one, but I didn't graduate.
I finally got my made my parents, broke my parents'
heart by getting kicked out joined the Navy before the
class of seventy one graduated was in in Uh you know.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Yeah, Gary, can I thank you for your service my
man making the decision to join the Navy is or
the military at all at any in any of the services.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
It's fantastic. Thank you for doing that.
Speaker 12 (33:29):
Man.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
I gotta let you go forgive me. Gary, Thank you
for taking us down memory lane. Thank you for all
the memories. By the way, about my son's birthday too. Jeff,
we have just about one minute left. I'd love to
let you sum up your experience so far, your first
time in studio, live on the radio.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
What would you like to say?
Speaker 7 (33:46):
That's all the time that we no, go ahead, Okay,
I've got a good time. I mean, I do a
podcast for Rock Media as a student journalist, and this
is kind of similar to what I do, but it's
you know, much more professional. And it's also great to
be here with you know, such nice people behind the
booth and uh, you know, my dad invited me in.
(34:07):
But you know, it's been really fun and I'm really
glad I came.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
The the ag thing. Lasting comments, any lasting feelings. Having
watched that.
Speaker 7 (34:18):
I know justice will be served, because that is ridiculous.
I don't understand how that can ever happen.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Son. I love you for making time to come on
in here, and a whole bunch of other reasons.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Proud of you for the Eagle Scout.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Hey, listen, I'm going to fill in again one of
these days here, and I promise you we're going to
figure out a way to wrangle Steve Reams. But until
that time, Oh, George Brockler filling in for Dan Cavlis
on The Dankapla Show.
This is Dan Caples and welcome to today's online podcast
edition of The Dan Kaplis Show. Please be sure to
give us a five star rating if you'd be so kind,
and to subscribe, download, and listen to the show every
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
Rockler filling in for Dan Caplis. Dan will be back
after he kicks the.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
You know what now to the guys that are trying
to withhold a little bit of justice from Dan's clients.
Until then, you've got me. I am the current and
elected district Attorney for the twenty third Judicial District.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
There's a lot.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Going on in government, even outside of the courts, nothing
that you normally care about, but it turns out we've
got a little bit of a budget kerfuffle going on
up under the Gold Dome. And to help us have
a conversation about what's about to kick off tomorrow, is
the House Minority Leader A Rose by any other name
(00:53):
would likely be a little bit taller. It's Rose Paglisi Rose.
Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Thanks George, and welcome to your son. That's exciting to
have a student reporter in today.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
He's got some questions ready for you. Rose, so he's
gone through a whole bunch in your past. I made
it up, Rose for purposes of what's coming up tomorrow.
Talk to us about how important what is it going
to take place is and what can folks do not
just to stay aware, but to stay involved in trying
to make sure that the government doesn't dip its hand
(01:26):
any deeper into our pockets.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
No, absolutely, and thank you for fitting me in today.
I know you guys have a really busy schedule, but
with special sessions starting tomorrow, I think it's really important
that your listeners know that there are ways for them
to get involved. So Special Session starts tomorrow. It is
going to go fast and furious, but Republicans have a
lot of great bills that we can use support. We
(01:49):
need people to testify. We don't know yet what committees
are going to go to or what time will start
or probably be I'm estimating around eleven thirty, but no
guarantees there. We start Special Session at ten. They'll then
be assigned to committees and then people can testify either
in the capital or remotely online. We will have all
that information on Colorado House republicans dot com website. So
(02:12):
directing people to go there for current and fast information
and talking points about bills. But basically, you know, the Democrats,
the Speaker said in an Executive Committee meeting, so completely public,
don't let a good crisis go to waste. They're blaming
their misspending and mismanagement of the Colorado budget, which you
(02:34):
and I know and have followed through the years. On
HR one. I mean, the Joint Budget Committee on June
eighteenth had projections that the state budget was already going
to have a shortfall of seven hundred million, and that
was before HR one was even put into effect. And
then most of what happens, you know, tax flies through
(02:54):
HR one doesn't even take effect until twenty six, twenty seven.
So this special session is premature. The Democrats are using
it in a partisan fashion, not to help the people
of Colorado, but to use HR one as an excuse
to raise taxes on the hard working people that we
fight to protect.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Is the basis for it being premature.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
And we're talking with House Minority Leader Rose Paglici because
they're trying to avoid doing this in an election year.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
So to be honest with you, I think they want
to they want to bring this as an issue they
want to blame Republicans for Democrat and spending, and I
think they want to start early on it. You know,
I'm not sure that you know, not all the bills
have been introduced. I don't know if there's constitutional amendments
(03:42):
or referendums coming forward. All of that is possible in
a special session.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
It's possible.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
We haven't seen those bills yet. It's hard because most
of us have who have bills. I have a bill
to protect tabor, the Taxpayer Bill of Rights. You know,
we put our bills online and we were transparent, so
the people have CALLO can see what we're working on.
But not all the bills are online right now, so
it's a little bit hard to tell exactly what their
motivation is. But normally, if there's a budget shortfall, it
(04:10):
would go through the Joint Budget Committee, whose only job
is to focus on the budget and dealing with issues
like this. So I think it's premature without the Joint
Budget Committee doing network.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
I think I heard you say, and this is a
little bonkers to me. If we're all in this together,
if this is all going to be the process of
some attempted even if it's failed by partisan effort at
addressing these issues, which are clearly the result of the
leadership of the party in power. You don't know what
the bills are yet this thing starts tomorrow. This feels
very Nancy Pelosi, like we got to vote on it
(04:44):
to find out what's in it.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
When do you get told?
Speaker 3 (04:47):
When do you and the other legislators get told, Hey,
here are the bills we're going to be debating and
voting on.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Well, so we sit in the chamber and we listen
to the bills being introduced and assigned to committee. At
that point the bills will be available for us all
to read together in the moment.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Good lord, so they know.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
I mean that clearly the House leadership on the other
side knows what's going on, and they know what's coming.
Why not invite you into the process before you, guys
cut the ribbon on this special session?
Speaker 4 (05:19):
Well, I mean, I think that would be a great idea.
I mean, there are a lot of budget items that
we could talk about and maybe find some consensus on. Again,
you know, the Joint Budget Committee is a bipartisan committee.
Every bill that comes out of the Joint Budget Committee
must have unanimous approval by all of the members Democrats
and Republicans.
Speaker 6 (05:39):
So why isn't.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
This going through that bipartisan process first? Why aren't the
people who actually understand all the intricacies.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
Of the budget.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Why aren't they the ones that are leading this charge?
I don't know why the governor and the Speaker, other
than they have their own agenda, are the ones who
are leading something that truly should be a Joint Budget
Committee item for them to discuss and work through, and
then if we need a special session to adopt their recommendations,
that's appropriate. But to start with the legislature instead of
(06:08):
the Joint Budget Committee just is not the typical process.
And I think just leaves to questions about the motivation
about the special session?
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Is part of that rep I mean, is this the
result of disorganization or is this a tactical decision to
deprive the other side of the opportunity to meaningfully scrutinize
these things.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
You know, my very first special session, if I recall correctly,
it was on property tax, and this is exactly how
it started. The Democrats brought their bills, Republicans brought their bills.
All the Republican bills were killed in committee. All the
Democrat builds, not all of them, but the ones that
they wanted move forward, and that was a debacle of
a special session that then resulted in Proposition age age,
(06:51):
which the people of Colorado, thank you so much, I'll
defeat it. And then we had to go back to
a special session where we did have some bipartisan conversations
and ultimately had bipartisan property tax release. So again we
have seen this story play out before. Legislation is better.
I know you know they're my friends on the conservative
side who say there should be no bipartisan legislation. I
(07:13):
get you, but the reality is that some of these
issues can be and should be solved in a bipartisan way,
especially when it talks about prioritizing the budget. We don't
have a revenue problem, we have a prioritization problem, and
Republicans should be at the table as we're discussing this
budget and deciding, you know, where the money is going
to help those most vulnerable in our communities. We all
(07:36):
want to help people, But why aren't we doing it
together now?
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Is this special session time limited or can it turn
into runaway special session?
Speaker 4 (07:46):
I mean, technically there's not a time limit, right, it
cannot go for less than three days. It takes three
days for a bill to get through a process to
become law. But at this point, you know, I get
this question all the time, even for my own members.
How long do you think this is going to be?
There really is no prediction on how long this could be.
What I want to be clear, and you know you,
(08:08):
George and I have talked about this before. What I
would like to see is that Republicans be able to
represent the voices of their people on the House floor
without being shut down or cut off by the majority.
We don't know what bills are going to come out
of committee. Again, I gave you my prediction, but if
Republican ideas cannot be heard and moved forward into law,
(08:32):
we should at least have the opportunity on the House
floor without being shut down, without the question being called
or limited debate. We should be able to have our
chance to be able to represent our people on that
House floor. So depending on whether we get shut down
or not will depend on the length of the special session.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
In my opinion, Rose Pli, House Minority Leader, can you
suffer through? One more question from another member of the media.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
His name is Jeff Yes, Jack go for it.
Speaker 7 (09:02):
Yeah, So I turn eighteen next week, and that means
that I'm going to be voting age and actually participate
in a lot of the uh, you know, politics and
government things. But I'm wondering, is there like any way
that we as voters can actively, you know, impact the
situation and help make sure that, you know, something like
(09:24):
this doesn't happen in the future.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Oh, there's a lot of unpacking that question, Jeff, and
it's such a good question. I'm going to talk about
the short term and then we can kind of talk
a little bit about the long term. But in the
short term, whether you're a voter or not, you have
the ability to come to the People's House and testify
on any bill, whether that's in person or we're now.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Back to the show.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Podcast idea heard make sure that both Democrats and Republicans
know where you're coming from. So that's the short term.
In the long term, there's a lot of change that
needs to happen. I'm hoping for a Colorado one day
for you that is defin more balanced, and we need
to restore balance in Colorado. But there's lots of opportunities
for you to engage on both the short term and
(10:08):
the long term. And I'm sure, I mean, your dad's
a great I mean he's been a great mentor to me,
and so I'm sure he's a great mentor to you.
There are lots of opportunities for us all to work
about it, work together for a better Colorado.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Great question, great answer, Rose. Jeff showed me the little
hands hearts symbol when.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
You said and tour to him.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
But pretty sure it was a little sarcastic when it
came to dad. Nonetheless, when you guys achieve whatever is
you're going to achieve, I'd love to have you back,
whether it's me or Reams or Capitalists or whomever's going
to fill and love to have you back on to
talk about what took place behind the scenes.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
No, absolutely, I think we need to stay continuously engaged
and updated. Any opportunities, whether it's me or any members
of our leadership or caucus that is able to jump on,
even just for a couple of minutes and give you
all updates and previews would be really great. So thank
you for that opportunity.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Just a reminder, if the help you guys need down
there is from citizens satisfy, Where can people go online?
To figure out what's coming up, when and where or
should they just show up.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
So Colorado House Republicans dot Com will have links to
the bills and you know, obviously where our talking points are.
Ability for people to sign up to testify. If they
can't come down to the capital. If they're here at
the Capitol, obviously you can come to House Minority offices,
whether that's in the Senate or the House, and we'll
(11:33):
be able to help direct you depending on what your
interest is or what you feel really passionately about.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
So come down to.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
The capital, come visit us. We'll get you where you
need to be.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Still working hard on behalf of all Colorades, trying to
grow us from the mighty nineteen to the mighty sixty five.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Maybe that's too ambitious, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
House Minority Leader Rose Paglisi, thank you so much for
coming on.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Thank you so much, George, Thanks Jeff for your question.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Yeah, thank you, Yeah, talk to you soon. Hey, listen,
we're gonna cut away for a break, love having Rose on.
When we come back, I want you to remember this phrase.
I'm an ag and kind of like where's Waldo. We're
gonna dive into some audio to find out if you
actually hear the phrase I'm an ag.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
It's hard to spot, but we'll do it together. Coming.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
I'm next to George Brockler filling in for Dan Caplis
on the Dan Caplis Show. Filling in for Dan Caplis
in studio with another member of the media. It's from
Rock Media down at the Rock Canyon High School there.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
His name is Jeff b. I know, I'm kind of well.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Hey, great questions. By the way, thanks to Assistant inn
Order Leader Rose POLICI. Coming to give us an update
on what's coming for us starting tomorrow with that special
session under the Gold Dome up north. Jeff, we were
talking off air about something and it's gonna be a
nice lead in here to this Attorney General thing because
I love this story and I love this audio that
we're going to go through together. But it's about integrity
(13:04):
and one of the things that you're working on in
addition doing the Rock Media stuff and all that is
involved scouting. Yeah, talk about what you're you are like
on the precipice of putting this thing to bed.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
What is it?
Speaker 7 (13:17):
Yeah, So I've been working on trying to get my
Eagle Scout you know, it's the highest rank in scouting.
And I've been scouting since I was six, I think,
so it's been a long time to get here, twelve years.
But I need to, Like, I just finished all of
my Merit badges, I've done my Eagle Scout project. I
(13:38):
just need to get a couple more signatures and then
I'm done. But I do need to get them quick.
I turn eighteen next Thursday, So that's the like hard
cut off.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Now.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Tell me about that, because what if you're like, oh,
I just forgot to get this thing done before I
turn eighteen, They're probably pretty forgiving about that, and they're like,
that's okay, you can have more time.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
No.
Speaker 7 (13:58):
I mean if it's like even if it's on your birthday,
they're not going to take it.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
They're really strict with it.
Speaker 7 (14:04):
It has to be before you're eighteen, unless you have
an extension, which is super rare.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
A couple things here, Jeff. Since you're turning eighteen, your
dad is very excited. He's no longer legally responsible for you. Remember,
no juvenile options if you get in trouble. That's from
our good friend Alexa, who is texting us from about fifteen.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Feet away, thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
You can do the same thing at five seven seven
three nine. Put Dan in there, but it'll come to
us here in the studio, or you can give us
a call. Of course, we'll take questions at three h
three seven one three eighty two fifty five.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
And that's true, Jeff.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
After a week from tomorrow, the next time you rob
a bank, it's for keeps man. I mean, that is
a that's a legit adult penalty. So I'd encourage you
to discontinue.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Every other time was the slap on the reskue?
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Now, well, if they caught you, Yeah, of course. The
eagle Scout thing. How big of a deal is that
to you? It's a really big deal. I mean, as
I said, it's been twelve years of my life. It's
been most of my developmental age, and.
Speaker 7 (15:00):
It's a you know, really important to me because it's
taken so long to get here, in so much effort
and work, and I'm really proud of everything that I've
done and all the people that have helped me, and
I'm thankful for all of it.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
You had to do an eagle project. Everybody does. It
has to be pre approved. There's some stuff that wanted
what did you do?
Speaker 7 (15:22):
So I, along with all the volunteers, constructed a pathway
at the Colorado Center for the Blind down in Littleton.
So they had like this big kind of like grassy
patch in their back. It's like a former YMCA that
was converted into a school for the blind, and they kind.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Of couldn't use it.
Speaker 7 (15:42):
It was covered in weeds, and I thought it would
be a really good idea to put in a kind
of walking path back there so they can get outside
and enjoy the great outdoors of Colorado, you know, the
three hundred days of sunshine that we get. And it
would also be good with you know, learning how to
use a cane and like walk. I mean, the work
that they do there is incredible. I have a rental
(16:06):
like disorder myself, but it's nowhere near you know, like blindness.
So I think it's like insane how these people are
able to adapt to their circumstances and kind of grow
to accept their life as a disabled person and still
like grow and exceed all those boundaries. And I think
(16:26):
it's incredible, and that's why I wanted to do a
project there.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Yeah, that's a pretty impressive, buddy. Why did you have
the path lead right into the middle of the street.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Kidding joking, it does. I'm totally joking. That does not
happen at all.
Speaker 7 (16:39):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
That's pretty fantastic, man, And that took a lot of coordination.
I remember you spent like an entire week just trying
to nail down the logistics of getting gravel, although you
didn't end abusing gravel and the trucks and the this
and the that and all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
That's a heck of an effort for a seventeen year
old kid.
Speaker 7 (16:59):
Yeah. Well, I mean it's all about learning that responsibility
and learning how to do a lot of project management
things like that. And I think it's like definitely probably
the most important part of the whole Eagle Scout process,
at least to me. You know, everyone else has like
different opinions, different things, different views, But I think the
project is the thing that I'll be most proud of,
(17:20):
Like in thirty years, I can come back and I
can see it and realize that, you know, I spent
all that time working on it. The grand total of
hours including volunteer time was three hundred and thirty two
hours went on that project, buddy.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
That's a lot. Yeah, that's a lot that. Congratulations, man,
I'm so proud of you for doing that. Listen, we're
going to tease this next section here by asking you.
I sent you a link from x slash Twitter to
a video of a Rhode Island Special Assistant Attorney General.
Without getting into the details of it here, I'll.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Ask you a reaction. When we come I'll look at this.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
I'll ask you, you know what, when Ryan does that,
he's signaling George, you must stop talking because we have
a hard out in twenty seconds. We will play this
clip when we come back and get some reaction. Until then,
you're listening to me, George B. Another guy, Jeff Bee,
sitting in the studio right now filling in for the
magnificent Dan Kaplis on the Dankaples show.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Rock Media. It's actually the handle is.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
At RC Rock Media, which is, as Kelly pointed out
during the break, our Rock Media, which is fine. I
like it, It's fantastic. I am set to play some sound here,
but I'm gonna have to ask some intervention here from
Big Ryan because the mouse here.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
You're listening to the show podcast. How to spoil that?
Speaker 3 (18:54):
I think there's a K and a t but the
mouse does not work. Here's what's going on. If you
haven't seen this thing yet, you need to go out
there and google Rhode Island or r I Special Assistant
Attorney General. You can use the name Devin Hogan Flannagan
for this. Here is the story. If I could get
(19:14):
from you, Ryan, if you could hit oh, Kelly, well
see Kelly, the little mouse flicky thing there when you yeah,
see what I'm saying. It's it's going we can't actually
make the mouse work.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Ryan, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 8 (19:28):
I'm going to come to the rescue. Give me a
number six if you would.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Okay, if I asked you.
Speaker 6 (19:35):
To turn off the body, can you have to turn
it off? And that's your poto.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
She's a lawyer, so she knows, well, that's bullet lawyer stuff.
So that's not true. So we gotta go.
Speaker 6 (19:44):
No it is. That's that's long.
Speaker 9 (19:46):
I'm an aging, I'm an agent.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
Good for you.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
I'll give you. We're going.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
Put your hands off, your.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Children out of here. Like I don't know why.
Speaker 10 (19:59):
Let's we'll break it up into some other stuff.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
It's what you're listening to right there is phenomenal video
And maybe it's because I'm in the game, right and
I think the I'm an a g thing. Let me
set the stage for you since you're not. If you're
driving in your car right now, hopefully you're not on
your phone looking at video. There are two blonde women
who I believe to be under the influence of alcohol.
(20:43):
That's the only way you can ape like it. Yeah, yeah,
And they are outside of what looks to be a
restaurant and they're on the outside portion and Newport Rhode
Island police have been called to exit them from the property.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
And uh, I think the cops are fans. Fantastic. Jeff.
When you watch this, what were your takeaways to this?
Speaker 7 (21:03):
It was kind of just interesting, mostly because you know,
I'm not in this world except for like, you know,
hearing you talk about things. But it's kind of like
cool to I guess see. Uh, you know, justice taking
place right there. I mean in the video, there's like
you hear a bit from assumedly the manager or the
owner of the restaurant. Uh, and he's just like, man,
(21:25):
just get them out of here. I don't care if
it's like a trespass. Put him in handcuffs, just get
him out of here. And It's kind of interesting also
because you know, as you yourself are a person in
a position of power like that, you know that it's
kind of a really bad move to try and say
what your position is because it's not going to get
you out of a crime.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Oh my goodness, it's not just a horrible look. And
so here's how it goes down. And Jeff's right, it
was fascinating to watch this thing take place. And if
we're in a place and time, by the way, where
people think they're going to use their position to get
out of accountability under the law or have to listen
to the police.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
This is such a phenomenal video.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
And I think this cop who you never see because
it's his body camp, I think this dude's a superhero
of sorts. He shows up on the scene totally professional.
He encounters these two drunk women who make white privilege
seem like it's in the rear view mirror. This is
white privilege on steroids or something like that. These these
ladies got.
Speaker 8 (22:24):
A question kind of following up, yeah on Jeff with
the g said, what does.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
She think that's going to get her? I'm an ag
I'm an ag.
Speaker 7 (22:32):
Oh.
Speaker 8 (22:32):
Then in that case, no, never mind, carry on like
you were.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
I know.
Speaker 7 (22:37):
Maybe it's it's just like you know, she thinks because
she has like a position of authority in the like
legal area of the government that will get her out of.
Speaker 8 (22:44):
It, she's expecting special treatment, right, Yeah, yeah, she's expecting
special treatment.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
I also think she misjudges her role in the criminal
justice system, which is one of superiority over law enforcement.
And it's not true like she's going to dictate to
them what the law is.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
These men and women, we.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Work together, but they don't answer to me, you know
what I mean. Like we heard Chief Jack Cowley on
and in the four o'clock hour. That dude has a
mission and responsibilities and he's been doing this thing for
thirty years. He's not going to just say, oh well,
George says, God forbid.
Speaker 8 (23:17):
You were pulled over and you were ineborated. I mean,
you would be booked, you would be charged that the
sheriff would have a job to do. And in contrast,
if the sheriff committed a crime, you're the prosecutor, you're the.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
District attorneys, right, you would have to file those charges.
Speaker 8 (23:29):
I mean, there's a certain order of operations here and
is this the clipper. At the beginning, she says, you
had to turn your body camera off?
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Yeah, yeah, that's it. I hope that's the clip.
Speaker 6 (23:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
So, but but here's what you're listening to with these two.
The cops roll up on her. They walk up on her, Hey,
what's going on kind of a thing, and she instantly
tries to legalize them or something, you know what, I mean,
legalise them, And she says, I know that your protocol
is that when a member of the public says to
turn off your body cam, you have to turn it off.
And I don't even know where that comes from, but
(23:59):
she says it was such confidence, and then tries to
repeat I think the phrase is do we have that clip?
Speaker 6 (24:04):
Right?
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Is that another where she says your protocol is the
early parts before she gets to she's a lawyer, and
she's trying to tell them to turn off the body cam, which,
by the way, was smart on her part because this
bodycm is damning for her.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
I mean, it is embarrassing.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
But she tries to tell them multiple times, you know,
the protocol is, the protocol is the protocols And she's
repeating herself like a drunk wood you know what I mean,
like you just can't seem to wrap your mind around
the event.
Speaker 8 (24:33):
You can only imagine how obnoxious these two were in
the bar. And if she was dropping that line in there,
I'm an a g I can do whatever I want
and like, I'm sorry, I got to say it. White
girl wasted. That's what it is.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
White girl wasted. That white clause no loss. Another one.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
If there was some telling moment early on, it's when
you hear I believe one of the husbands who must
be dominated at home by these two women. The two
husbands us says to the cop, this is a friend
of ours from college. And right away I'm like, oh no,
like this this isn't gonna go well. Drinking girlfriend, drinking
buddies from college never ends well.
Speaker 8 (25:09):
So this clip we got to play it if you
don't mind us. So in this one, she's being dragged
away and she's losing her mind, she's screaming, she's kicking.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
That's the other blonde one. That's why they're non ag
the non age.
Speaker 8 (25:20):
Really well, then this is the one where if you
play the drinking game, like with the song Roxane and
turn on the red light rock Sand and one half
of the bar drinks for Roxanne, and one half of
the bar drinks for turn on the Red Light, and
this one you want to drink half of the audience for.
I'm right here, I'm right here, I'm right here, I'm
right here.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
That's her husband trying to calm her down. And shall
we try a husband if you know what I mean?
Mail the mail off camera is saying, I'm here, babe,
I'm here, babe. It was really Can you play that.
There's probably some things you had to beep up, but
do you have that clip? Yes?
Speaker 8 (25:55):
And let me just say there's not a lot of
y chromosome invauld here.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
We got the license. He's in the No, no, no,
don't set out of here. Get that get back right now.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
A team.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Drink every time she stays down.
Speaker 6 (26:20):
It's so cool.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
That's just so good right here, right here?
Speaker 8 (26:26):
Okay from apart, no, right here, I'm.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Right here, I'm right here. That's something you say good childbirth,
isn't it. I don't know if you say that when
they're getting hooked, you know?
Speaker 11 (26:39):
All right, Okay, I'm right here.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
Please, I'm scared right here.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Prior to being scared, she is just straight up mouthy.
Speaker 12 (26:50):
No fan I'm right here.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
No, no, no, I'm right here.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
I'm right here.
Speaker 12 (26:58):
No, relax, well, I this.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Is Lama's for being arrested. Breeze, freeze, relax. What's going Push?
Speaker 6 (27:09):
Push, You're overreacting, you're adding to overreact.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
You're overreact. You need to settle down, you need to
calm down. That's where you sell everyone.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
And this, by the way, is the Calmas should be
through the rest of the video, which she will never be.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
This calm over and I again.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
We didn't have happened.
Speaker 9 (27:28):
No, no, no, right here, right here, right prease reaction.
Speaker 6 (27:40):
This, I'm not the cor.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
All we're doing is putting her in the back of
an suv.
Speaker 6 (27:53):
The cor in the cart.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
A kid.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
They did the husband or boyfriend of favor man.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Can you imagine driving home with that.
Speaker 8 (28:24):
I'm not overreacting, You're overreacting. I gotta tell you, George,
as a former uber Lyft driver, gotta say I gotta
say it.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
I go downtown.
Speaker 8 (28:30):
I tell you, these people partying drunk women are way
more out of control than drunk dudes. It was just
a rule, and it was just like this.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Well, honestly, in college, you're sort of counting on that
there's that fine line between you know what I mean,
out of control good and you've just lit the fuse
on crazy and she just let her own fuse.
Speaker 11 (28:49):
Man.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
She just wanted from Lippy. Let's do this. Let's cut
away for a break. When we come back.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
There's a couple of the clips I want to pay
play to close this out, just because the I'm an
ag one that could be a career ender, we don't know.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Stick around.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Jeff and George filling in for Dan Caplis on the
Dan Capla Show, still.
Speaker 13 (29:15):
Trying to determine how to punish one of his lawyers
caught on video in an embarrassing arrest in Newport.
Speaker 14 (29:21):
In the video, which is trending and now being played
on cable news, that an assistant Attorney General kept telling
police about her position. Brian Crandle's working the story as
her boss speaks out for the first time, what do
you have to say?
Speaker 13 (29:33):
Brian Well, Dan Patrice Prosecutor Devin Hogan Flanagan repeatedly told
Newport police officers I'm an ag after a restaurant called
the cops wanting her and her friend out. Now, Attorney
General Peter Narona says he has not decided on what
to do with Flanagan, but it will involve he says,
an unpaid suspension. Well Assistant Attorney General Devon Hogan, Flannagan
(29:54):
only made things worse for herself.
Speaker 6 (29:55):
I'm an ad good for you.
Speaker 13 (29:59):
Let's start trying to tell Newport police officers she knew
protocol for body cameras after they tried to get her
to leave from outside a restaurant that.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Wanted flannagain and her friend gone.
Speaker 13 (30:09):
Thursday night, Flannagan's boss Peter and Rona on WPRRO radio
with Jeane Bellison's.
Speaker 12 (30:14):
Look, she's put me in a bad position. She's embarrassed herself, humiliated, herself,
treated the Newport Police department horribly. You know she is
going to take some steps to try to address it.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
And now back to the dan Taplas shows ultimately arrested.
Speaker 13 (30:30):
For trespassing after telling officers nearly a dozen times she's
an Agnrona says, Flannagin owes police and apology, and that
process is underway.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
As for her status.
Speaker 13 (30:45):
At the Attorney General's Office, where she tries cases in
front of the State Supreme Court.
Speaker 11 (30:50):
I have to give it some more thought. But the
excusable behavior and there will be a suspension without pay
here if I retain every sure, So she's not going
to continue, you know, to go on as if nothing happened.
Speaker 13 (31:01):
No answer at Flannagan's home today after someone who answered
her phone number yesterday told me no comment, and Rona
says he met with Flanagan yesterday and had her watch
the video books.
Speaker 12 (31:11):
She humiliated herself and regardless of what happens, you could
be her employment with us. She's going to have a
long time coming back to this. It's just really unfortunate.
Speaker 13 (31:20):
Flannagan makes one hundred and thirteen thousand dollars a year.
She does not yet have a court date on the
trespassing charge, as nothing has been filed in court yet.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
I'm Brian Krandlin WEC ten years.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Jeff and George filling in for Dan caplis my favorite part.
Ryan and Jeff is of course, as she's saying for
the one hundredth time, I am an age and the
cop just slams the door after a like I'm an ach.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
I mean, it was just it was too perfect.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Let's go to the phone lines right now, Gary from Denver,
you're on the Dan CAPLA show with Jeff and George.
Speaker 5 (31:50):
What are you thinking, Gary, I'm thinking I'm Bear Creek
High School class in nineteen seventy one, there before you
was born.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
No, buddy, I believe me. I was.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
I wish that was before I was born. I'm class
of eighty eight. I graduated when I was two. No,
I'm kidding.
Speaker 5 (32:07):
Oh so yeah, okay, Well Gary, what do you got
for Well, I went to Bear Creek. I started Burt
Creek in sixty eight.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
That was before.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
Also, I also share a birthday with your oldest son.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Oh you do fantastic, Well, happy birthday then you just
had one.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
Yeah, and he just turned twenty one.
Speaker 11 (32:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Man, great memory, Gary, that's fantastic.
Speaker 5 (32:30):
I remember hearing you on his when he called in
on his eighteenth birthday.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Oh, buddy, that's a great memory. You're the male Alexa.
Speaker 5 (32:38):
Do you know what happened exactly fifty years to the
day prior to to your son turning eighteen? No, exactly
fifty years prior, huh lest ground combat troops left Vietnam.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Oh wow, what a great what a great fact.
Speaker 5 (32:56):
Yeah, and I was class seventy one, but I didn't graduate.
I finally got my made my parents, broke my parents'
heart by getting kicked out joined the Navy before the
class of seventy one graduated was in in Uh you know.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Yeah, Gary, can I thank you for your service my
man making the decision to join the Navy is or
the military at all at any in any of the services.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
It's fantastic. Thank you for doing that.
Speaker 12 (33:29):
Man.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
I gotta let you go forgive me. Gary, Thank you
for taking us down memory lane. Thank you for all
the memories. By the way, about my son's birthday too. Jeff,
we have just about one minute left. I'd love to
let you sum up your experience so far, your first
time in studio, live on the radio.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
What would you like to say?
Speaker 7 (33:46):
That's all the time that we no, go ahead, Okay,
I've got a good time. I mean, I do a
podcast for Rock Media as a student journalist, and this
is kind of similar to what I do, but it's
you know, much more professional. And it's also great to
be here with you know, such nice people behind the
booth and uh, you know, my dad invited me in.
(34:07):
But you know, it's been really fun and I'm really
glad I came.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
The the ag thing. Lasting comments, any lasting feelings. Having
watched that.
Speaker 7 (34:18):
I know justice will be served, because that is ridiculous.
I don't understand how that can ever happen.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Son. I love you for making time to come on
in here, and a whole bunch of other reasons.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Proud of you for the Eagle Scout.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Hey, listen, I'm going to fill in again one of
these days here, and I promise you we're going to
figure out a way to wrangle Steve Reams. But until
that time, Oh, George Brockler filling in for Dan Cavlis
on The Dankapla Show.
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