April 30, 2025 • 34 mins
In second hour of today's show, Dan is joined by District Attorney George Brauchler to talk about an important conviction Brauchler just secured. Dan also discusses the mineral deal between the United States and Ukraine.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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So glad you're here, excuse me and appreciate all our
great callers and textures as well. There's two things we're
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talking about right now if you want to join in.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
One is is.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Very good news the US Ukraine Minerals deal. That is
a powerful message to putin right since the US now
has that security interest in Ukraine, and the US made
it clear as part of announcing that deal that this
should push putin to piece. The other is talking about
a trucker who would have killed our daughter, absolutely would
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have killed our daughter if she had gone when the
light turned green. We we now have the video and
we can see that that light was a solid green
facing our daughter, a solid green. And she said for
at least a couple of seconds, if not longer, before
that trucker roared through the intersection. And so we talk
about it all the time at the house. Don't go
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when the light turn screens, so many people are running
red lights.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
You have to stay, you have to look. She said.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
She felt her guardian angels. She just felt she had
to wait, and he comes roaring through. She thinks, at
sixty seventy eighty miles an hour.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Or so, we've got it. George Brockler kind enough to
join us.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
So, GEORGI, yeah, we've been talking about that, not just
been telling everybody that I'm going to ask their help
and finding this trucker and then acting within the bounds
of the law, pursuing all possible legal remedies, but above
all make sure that they get this driver off the road.
But you just had tremendous success, which I was so
happy to see prosecuting as flat out murder in MVA case.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Can you fill people in on that?
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Yeah, yeah, this was a good one. Back on August
the fourth, it was a Sunday, the last day of
the Douglas County Fair last year. A family, the Anderson
So Lieutenant Colonel Islet for the Air Force, his wife
and four kids, ages eleven, eighty four and twenty months,
had pulled into a seven eleven off of Plumb Creek,
which is what you take to get to the Douglas
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County Fair and they were going to get popsicles. And
Dad gets out, starts fueling up the car. We've all
been there, I'm sure, looking in the cars, four kids.
Wife gets out of the car to go into the
seven eleven to get the popsicles. And what they don't
know is that some other guy, our defendant in this case,
who is depressed and down on life, his wife had
left him, she was having an affair on him. He
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drank himself out of alcohol, which included two bud lights
and a pint of fireball whiskey, pours himself into a
lifted twenty seventeen Chevy Silverado and plunges himself downhill on
Plumb Creek, makes a weird left cut across five lanes
of traffic, makes a bee line for the gas station,
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ends up dropping the accelerator to about ninety eight percent
almost all the way to the floor, ends up hitting
that car at about forty five miles an hour. The
car slams into Dad, takes off his leg below the knee,
throws him about fifteen feet and causes him massive and
lethal head trauma, and he ends up dying. And you
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know there are charges on the books that apply. And
I listened to, by the way, to that arrowing story
Dan that you told at the beginning of the four
o'clock hour, and I thought I'd be homicidal, Do you.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (03:28):
Like I want to go out, you want to find
someone and beat them and then go sit in front
of a jury and go, let me tell you why
I beat him.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
You know what I mean? Because yeah, I'm pretty sure dury.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Nullification applies to those cases. But so we didn't go
with just vehicular homicide. In fact, I ended up dismissing
that charge before trial because it's such a weak charge.
In Colorado. Vehicular homicide DUI causing a death is a
non mandatory that means a probation eligible four to twelve
years in DOC, and with the crazy math that DOC employees,
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a guy who gets maxed at twelve years will likely
be paroled out of jail or to concre in three
three and a half SNEX, that didn't make sense.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
So office ended up.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Charging him with extreme indifference murders and the tempted extreme
and difference murder for the kids. And the jury saw
it that way too, And now this guy is going
to on July the third, be sentenced to somewhere around
life plus up to two hundred and thirty years in
the Department of Corrections.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Man, what great work by you.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
And it's a kind of saying and your team that
makes that community safer, right because it has to it
has to. It just it makes headlines people understand because
as you say, George, right now, I mean, the laws
are so weak.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
And if you could explain to folks.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
When you talk about vehicular homicide having that non mandatory
jail time, I mean, vehicular homicide's a pretty serious charge.
You can't just go in and get vehicular homicide because
somebody has I'll call in their system and made a
small mistake.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
No, you can't. It's there's two kinds. There's reckless in
dui and the problem in future jurors ought to know
this too. When you see a charge with the word
homicide in it, at the criminal level, it is a
probation eligible charge. The only mandatory prison charges include words
like murder, assault and.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
But nobody knows that. So you know, when we ended
up going to the jury, the defense attorney offered something
called a lesser non included offense that means, hey, this
is a charge that could fit the facts as they've
come out, and he offered a criminally negligent homicide. And
that freaked me out a bit because I thought, man,
a jury could sit there and think murder. This doesn't
feel like murder. Homicide criminally negligent. It sounds like that's
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a one to three year non mandatorydoc sentence. That means
that this guy gets maxed out, they walk him out
the jail, probably within the months he gets turned around
at the Denver Regional Diagnostics Center. So he left me
with a little pit in my stomach there. But the
jury saw the aggravators and including the fact this guy
had two priors. That way, if I'm going to apply
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that aggressive logic then to what you've described. Look, this
isn't a guy who just happened to miss a stop
sign or miss a red light, and they're charges for
that failure to obey of traffic control device. That is
a ridiculously small traffic infraction with no consequences. Let's say he,
god forbid, he hurts and kills someone that's careless driving
resulting in death, That in and of itself is only
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up to a year and not even mandatory year in jail.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Well, we just saw that in Jeff go right, in
that case. It's been in the news so much with
the trucker who spelled all that pipe. The guy had
been deported so many times, spelled all that pipe on
the highway, killed Scott Miller, injured others and what did
they charge him without, Jeff go And I know you
may not be able to comment on that, but it
was that right, careless causing death and he was going
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to be out in.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Less than a year, which is a small charge. And
if you'll remember this, Dan, there was an effort in
the legislature this session within the last few weeks to
make at least an F six a sist only not
mandatory present of someone who drives and kills a pedestrian
or a bicyclist or something in careless driving resulting in death,
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and the legislature in a party line vote killed it.
The Dems don't want it. We're in an environment where,
in my opinion, prosecutors have to look at conduct like
the one you described, like we saw in the case
that we did, and evaluate it from the standpoint of
its level of how outrageous it is. And could you,
in God forbid, a situation where this trucker blows to
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an interception and kills one, could you make an argument
for something more than careless with death? And I think
you clearly could. Whether there's alcohol on board or not,
the size of the truck, the speed, the visibility, the
traffic that he can see on the road, all of
these things, an aggressive prosecutor could say, I think I
have an argument for someone who does not value use
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human life. And that's how you get it to that
next level.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Clearly, Well, I'll tell you you and your team did
a great service to public safety. But I think also
it has to support the morale of first responders, right
because they're out there dealing with this carnage, they're on
the scene, they have those images in their head.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
They have to.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Literally pick up the pieces, and it has to encourage
them that DA has their back and is saying no,
we're going to max this. And then to the family.
Obviously I can't even imagine their grief, but it has
to be some measure. There's never closures, you know, right,
but there has to be some measure of comfort and
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peace that comes with knowing that you guys went out
and that a jury did the right thing and you
got everything possible.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
That's true on the victim side. Every victim is different,
but there's there's some weird association and it's not unpredictable,
an association between the level that a killer is held
at this weird way of did the community value my
husbands for or the father and that's not true, but
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that's where it is. So getting that murder conviction does
provide a great deal of comfort. And really, let me
tell youus about the cast Rock Police department who did this.
I've never seen this in thirty years of doing this.
These guys would come in and testify, leave the witness
stand and sit in the courtroom for the rest of
the day and keep coming.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Back to the rest of the poles. Was packed with the.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Cops that investigated this case, because that's how much it
impacted them. And I was like, this is amazing.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
That is so cool to hear.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
And everything I've seen from that department in our cases
has been really impressive. But that they would come back
and sit and watch and what a powerful message that sends.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Well, great job, George. This is a kind of think,
This is a kind of prosecution. That really makes a difference.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Well, I hope you catch that dude. When you when
you described where it was, I was only bummed it
wasn't south the county line.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Yeah, no I didn't. I appreciate that, my friend. But
we will get them. We will get them, and I'll
let everybody know about it. But thanks for your time today,
of course, you take care of that is George Brockler.
Really important conviction there. Hey, welcome back to our phone
lines Texters as well, and hopefully.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
You can help me catch this guy here on the
Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
A great conversation with George Brockler. Really important conviction they
won out in Douglas on a murder charge against a
duy driver, a horrific killing at a gas station. And
that's the kind of conviction that will help make the
community safeer Texters. Exploding, Dan and Fort Collins and we
will keep an eye out for that. Semi triple exclamation
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point thumbs up. Thank you so much for that. And
I have to tell you, Ryan, I was up in
court and Fort Collins this morning and that just has
to be one of the great cities.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
In America, and I'm not going to go on and
on about it. We have other stuff to talk about.
But I've got to tell.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
You I was just sitting up there saying, well, why
doesn't everybody live here?
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Right? I mean, it's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
The courthouse is absolutely magnificent. And then I walk about
a block from the courthouse because you know how I
like to have breakfast at Snooze. They've got a Snooze
up there in Fort Collins. It was a third Snooze
opened original manager still there. I walk about a block
or two from the courthouse, there's a Snooze. It's this
beautiful kind of old style main street and it's just like.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
This has to be one of the great places in America.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Before I go back to the phone lines, if you
just joined us, and want to give you a little
sense to what we're talking about here, because it is
one of the most important things in life to you
right now, and that is for you and everybody you love.
It may be the greatest danger that you and your
family are facing, unless your police, fire, military, etc. Is
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from reckless truckers. And obviously we have a lot of
great truckers, they're heroes. The reckless truckers are a menace
and an extreme danger to you, and that number is growing.
And so what I'm talking about right now is we
have the photo.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Now we have the video.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Our daughter was sitting there, driving great as she always does,
sitting at a red light, and then the light turned green,
and she did not go. As we talk, not every night,
but we talk as I've sat on air at home
at the dinner table, about do not go when the
light turns green. So many drug drivers, so many reckless
drivers blow in red lights. You cannot go when the
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light turns green. You have to look. So she did
not go, and she said she kind of felt her
guardian angel, and she waited, and she said she waited
two or three seconds, and then this huge eighteen wheeler
with a big flatbed a hauling material roars through the
red light. Now, she says, she thought it was at
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sixty seventy eighty miles an hour, but it roars right
through a solid red So the bottom line is this,
for everybody listening right now, the most precious thing in
the world to you is your children. And if our
wonderful daughter had simply driven forward when the light turned green,
she would be dead. That's the undeniable reality. And I'm
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going to find this trucker no matter what it takes,
and I will act within the bounds of the law.
I will never act outside the law, but I will
maximize everything possible within the bounds of the law. Not
out of retribution or anger or vengeance, though I feel
all of that, as you would after you saw this photo.
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But we got to save other people. I literally, thank God.
It's a miracle she's still with us. But we got
to save other people. And I know one thing from
handling these semi cases for decades here and elsewhere, this
ain't going to be a one off. Somebody driving an
eighteen wheeler down Bellevue at high speed through solid red
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in the middle of the day, that's not going to
be a one off. So gotta find this guy. Just
just gotta protect other people. And as a father, I
gotta find this guy. Linda and Lakewood, you're on the
Dan Kaplis Show.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Welcome, Oh, welcome. Thanks.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
I just would to let you know what happened to me.
By the grace of God, I was coming out of
the Denver Federal Center at lunchtime and these teenagers key
boned my nineteen seventy two car, and I just got
a bruise.
Speaker 6 (14:30):
Sigh, thank God.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Good good. What kind of caray? Was seventy two?
Speaker 6 (14:34):
One?
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Since I'm seventy five.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Oh but you said in nineteen seventy two car, what
kind of carrion?
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Well, I was twenty two.
Speaker 6 (14:41):
I was in Chevy Chavelle.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Wallabou okay, okay, and then.
Speaker 6 (14:45):
I came out.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
They hit me, and ever since then, nineteen seventy two,
that card. It was in nineteen seventy four when I
got hit. I looked before at the red light three
times before I go across the street.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Amen's sister, and thank you for that. And if somebody
behind you, Hanks, well you can live with that. Which
you can't live with is getting tee bone by a semi.
So do not go when the light turns red. You've
got to look both ways. And Dan speaking of Fort
Collins Main Street, USA, and Disneyland was modeled after Fort Collins.
See that would make sense to me because as I
was walking out of court and down that street today,
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I thought, Wow, this is cool. I feel like I'm
back in time in a very cool way.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
I've just yeah, I don't understand why everybody doesn't live
in four colins. What kind of.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Equipment was on the truck and what color is the equipment?
Our friend Steve Reams wrote me back because I sent
the photo to Steve just as a friend. He said,
looks to be hauling some kind of bags of aggregate
at the front of his trailer. And it's a it's
a particularly large cab, but it's a sleeper in a
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particularly large one, red with white lettering on the side.
The problem is the quality of the video is so
poor that you can clearly see the semi. You can
clearly see the green light that our daughter had, solid
green as the semi is entering the intersection, but you can't.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Make out the words on the side.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
So I've got a former FBI guy doing his thing
to try to clear up that type and identify it
that way, Tom and me, you're on the Dan Kaplis Show.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Welcome.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Hi Dan.
Speaker 7 (16:29):
I'm really glad. Caroline's okay everything. You know, you're a
great driving instructor. I told my daughters to always scout
the intersection before you go through green light. Yeah, so
my other so, my broader question to you is, I mean,
what is there any that that thing sounds like that
trucker dude was on his phone, is what that sounds like?
I was almost killed by a fat X driver that way,
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And you know what what what laws or legislation as
any is afoot?
Speaker 4 (16:59):
Do you know?
Speaker 7 (17:00):
Stop this texting? And it just got to stop.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Man, Well they Democrats just killed it. George Brockler was
on the show a few minutes ago talking about it.
There was a bipartisan effort to try to strengthen these
laws to at least have a felony charge for some
of this horrible traffic stuff, and the Democrats killed it.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
So, like George was.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Talking about right now, people would think, Okay, careless resulting
in death, that would be a very serious thing. You
go to jail for a long time. No, No, it's
so pathetically weak. A careless resulting in death And you
just saw a trucker get it from the jeffco DA
after spilled all that pipe on the highway. Full disclosure,
I'm involved in that case as a lawyer, and i'd
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depose that trucker in jail a few weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
But no, that's.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Pathetically We carries less than a year in jail. Tom,
You're welcome to hang man, I got to hit this brake.
We're going to come back, continue this conversation. But also
very important deal today between the US and Ukraine should
send a powerful message to Satan on Earth and hopefully
help speed up the end of that meat grinder war
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here on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
You're listening to the Dan Kapliss Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
It's so interesting who the Democrats are choosing to champion
these days, right, like the quote Maryland Man Jessee. The
latest on that Ryan, The administration just released a second
protective order that had been issued there or filed for,
and I believe issued where a woman had accused him
of kicking, slapping, shoving, mental injury of a child, and
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detaining against will, among other acts of abuse. Hey, we're
talking about a few different things this afternoon. One very
near and dear to you and to your family and
all of your loved ones, because I assume that you drive,
and we're talking about reckless truckers and what we need
to do about him because these state's laws are so soft,
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and you see the carnage just mounting mountain. And I
always try to throw in disclaimer or qualifier. I should
call it simply out of fairness. And that is that
there are a lot of great truckers and it's a
hard job in their heroes, and obviously the wheels of
society would stop turning without them. But I'm just telling you,
as a guy who does this kind of law, that
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the number of reckless truckers is growing and you and
your family are in danger in a big way every
single day. And that's a prelude to this, and that
is we have the video. Now we have the photo.
Our daughter had told us she was stopped at a
light and when the light turned green, she did not go.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
And we talk about that at home.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
A bunch don't go in the light turns green, so
many reckless drivers. But she said she just felt felt
like it was her guardian angel something telling her not
to go. Said the light was green for at least
a couple of seconds, and then this semi she told us,
just came roaring through from left to right, from east
to west down Bellevue and and if she had gone,
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she would have been killed, she told us.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
So we went on the.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Hunt and we now have video and you can see
and she described, you can't make it, you can't calculate
the speed off the video without the accident recon getting involved,
and we will get him involved. But she estimated it
like sixty to eighty and I would absolutely believe it
given what we can First, she tell us the truth. Second,
what we can see on that video, which is her
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light is a solid green as a semi begins to
enter the intersection. So that means, given light sequencing that
some I would have had a hard read for a
while before it roared through that intersection. So think about it,
and I've got to think about it as a father,
and it's got me this combination of grateful and and
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what's the word that's appropriate on a family show, grateful
and furious beyond imagination. And it's a weird coming, right
because I feel grateful all the time, but I've never
felt grateful. At the same time, I felt absolutely furious.
And so I'm going to find this guy, no matter
what it takes. I'm going to find this guy and
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to operate within the bounds of the law, do everything
within the law. But for everybody's safety, And as a father,
got to find this guy and make sure he can't
hurt anybody else, and they'll all be done within the law.
I'm not talking about anything extra judicial. Let me go
back to the phone lines here. Let's talk too about
Tom and Mead Colorado. You're on the Dan Kaplis show.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Welcome.
Speaker 7 (21:35):
Yeah, so, Dan, as we're discussing earlier, I think the
laws are way too leanient in Colorado for texting and driving.
I would also say that I think it is far
more dangerous to text and drive than it is to
drink and drive, only because your eyes are off the road.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Well, my friend, the way I describe it to jury
in cases like that is they're driving blindfolded. Anybody who's
texting and driving has made a decision to put on
a blindfold and drive that vehicle anyway. It's the same
as if they had walked out into the middle of
that traffic lane and they they beeping.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
At you, tom.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
Light.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Oh no, but I met the horn in the background. Yeah,
so what, I'm what, Oh, that's what happened. Okay, so,
but it's the same. I'm curious, Wow while we talk.
Speaker 7 (22:33):
Okay, I'm hands free, okay.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Okay, good good, I'm glad.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
And he's sitting there texting in front of you.
Speaker 7 (22:41):
Yeah, there's they're worse than the people at the gym.
I go to the gym and they're sitting on the machine, and.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
It's ridiculously to appreciate the calm.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Uh you gotta laugh at your cry.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
But but yeah, that's how I explain it to jury's
and and people agree. It's like driving blindfolded. When somebody's
texting and driving. It's like somebody just walking out in
the middle of the lane of traffic and firing a
an automatic weapon down the roadway. I mean, it is
that reckless. But our laws are so pathetic, and the
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Democrats just killed a bill that would have made them
at least a little more just. So why do you
think the Democrats want to protect reckless drivers? I'd love
your thoughts on that. Three or three seven three eight
two five five text d A N five seven seven
three nine Jay and Denver, you're on the Dane.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Capitalist sh'll welcome.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Hi.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
Can you hear me?
Speaker 2 (23:34):
I can hear you now? Trademark?
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Good?
Speaker 6 (23:37):
So, I well, I said, Denver, But I really live
in Arvada. So it was just yesterday my pastor and
his wife and his wife was driving was turning at
the light at Wadsworth in fifty eighth.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Yeah, and.
Speaker 6 (23:57):
So they're turning and they get through the intersection and
here comes this car. She can see it in her
rear view mirror, went through the red light, didn't even
see her, but she saw him and changed lanes, reel
fast and avoided, you know, a rear end. It was, man,
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really scary. It scared her end. It scared the driver
because he realized what he had done and started going
real slow.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Yeah, man, Jay, appreciate the car. You know what's crazy, man,
is there are so many drug drivers. And I understand
we've got a lot of reckless drivers who aren't on drugs,
but there are.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Because they don't think there's any enforcement. And don't blame
law enforcement for that.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Law enforcements out there doing everything they can, you know,
blaming the people who aren't funding them, the people who
aren't supporting them, et cetera. But you got a lot
of these crazies who think they won't get caught no
matter what they do.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
But then you have so many more drivers on drugs.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
In my experience, in my law practice, because we handle
these horrible crashes, so many more drivers on drugs. And Ryan,
this is so deeply disturbing. It used to be the
drug driving cases, right, They would normally be at night,
Now we see them twenty four to seven.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
That's what George is saying.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
So many drug driving cases, not drunk, but drugged, like
it's seven.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
In the morning, eight in the morning.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
And then obviously you can get drunk driving all the
time too, but so many of these early morning drug
driving cases. You just have so many people in Colorado
right now who are just using drugs all the time,
and then you can see the effect on the roadway.
Let's go to dab in Denver. You're on the dan
Kapla show.
Speaker 8 (25:38):
Welcome, Hello, thank you. I would like to suggest everyone
put a Saint Christopher metal in their car, maybe two
as a patron saying of safe driving. I just wanted
to refer to the Denver University basketball player who has
the famous I don't know if he's still playing for
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the Denver Nuggets brother who plowed through an intersection a
light and killed this woman.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
She was doing a wonderful woman.
Speaker 8 (26:14):
Yes, now what, I live in that neighborhood and I
use that street frequently and I often think I should
look it up. I bet he's out of jail or
never even went to jail and it just breaks my heart.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Yeah, that was such a horrific case. Ironically that happened
below our daughter's apartment window. Just horrific. Thank you for
that called dab. But it just comes back to in general,
and people have no idea, right and I guarantee you
have no idea how weak and soft our traffic laws are,
even when it comes to killers. And there's so much
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harm done that still leaves the victim alive and carved
up and crippled and all these other horrible things, and
our laws are so soft. That has got to change. Clearly,
the Democrats aren't going to do it. They just killed
a bill with the legislature that had bipartisan support.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
But what do you think?
Speaker 1 (27:10):
And we've got to pop this break, but I'd love
your take on the other side. Why do you think
the Democrats killed a bill that would have toughened the
traffic laws for people who kill? Why do you think
they killed that bill?
Speaker 2 (27:22):
You're on the Dankapla Show.
Speaker 5 (27:31):
And now back to the dan Kaplass Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Glad you're here.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Good news the US and Ukraine signing a minerals deal
in the administration issue. In a statement with that today.
This is a message to Putin. He needs to make peace.
The US and Ukraine are aligned, they have this common
economic interest, and that's powerful because Putin is satan and
there should not be American boots on the ground. And
this cannot be an endless war. And Biden's weakness unfortunately
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opened the door to it. And then just mating unlimited
amounts of money with no plan for success. And you know,
the real horror of Ukraine is first obviously Putin and
is rapid and pellaging of that nation, but also that
Europe wouldn't stand up for Ukraine because I told you
on day one, anybody could see it. Putin was going
to succeed in Ukraine unless Europe made it clear they
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would put boots.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
On the ground.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
That was the only thing that was going to stop
Putin's march. And Europe refused to do that. You got
all kinds of talk, and you got some money, but Putin.
You know, evil doesn't mean dumb. It just means there's
intelligence being misused for evil purposes. And Putin's as evil
as it comes. And then Putin could see, yeah, he
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can do the math. If Europe isn't willing to put
boots on the ground, He's going to be able to
overwhelm Ukraine, and unfortunately, evil Putin is going to gain
some territory through this invasion. And that's sick. And don't
blame Trump. That's not on Trump, that's on Biden and
the left. I'm just trying to stop the carnage. But
I am hoping and expecting that this deal now with
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Ukraine sends a powerful message to Putin because Trump, it's
always been piece through strength, and Putin at this point
has not come to the table in good faith. And
he's got to know just from watching Trump that if
he doesn't do it soon, well Trump's going to find
other ways to make life difficult for Putin. Three h
three someone three eight two five five the number, Text
(29:27):
d An five seven seven three nine Text Dan, Glad
your daughter's safe. There needs to be a crackdown on speeding,
reckless tall getting truckers on our highway.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Stephen Lyttleton, Well, that.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Is very, very true, and it is a matter of fundamental,
urgent matter of public safety that that happened, and that
it happened beyond the trucking industry as well. You got
to start with the trucking industry, because that's sixty seventy
eighty thousand pounds, right, and polist did so much to
undermine safety in this state. When Kim Kardashian whispers in
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his ears and then he gives that enormous break, defies,
the judge defies, the jury defies, the prosecutor gives that
enormous break to the trucker who knew, who knew his
truck was unsafe, his breaks, it overheatd.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Even got out and got back in anyway.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
And then you get all these people, this big fireball,
all these people killed on our highway on I seventy
and police cuts this guy a break to make Kim
Kardashian happy. That did so much to undermine safety here
because guess what, the trucking industry nationwide. And I spend
a lot of time on those cases. I was doing
a deposition on one of those cases yesterday. Spent a
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lot of time on those cases. And I know the
good ones, the good companies, the good drivers, they're heroes.
But the bad ones, and that number is growing, they
are a clear and present danger to everybody. And they talk,
they talk around the nation. I mean, hey, you don't
think truckers know. You don't think truckers know which city
and states are absolutely going to hammer them if they're
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unsafe there, and which cities.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
And states are going to give him a pat on
the back.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
And say, oh, it'll be better next time. Yeah, they know,
they know. Three or three someone three eight, two, five,
five the number.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Young Ryan. We have not had much of a chance
to talk today.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
What words of wisdom did you share on your Grade
two to four show in the Denver market each afternoon
at six thirty kh W Denver.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Well.
Speaker 5 (31:19):
I was just talking about how the media I really
focused in on this sit down interview between Terry Moran
of ABCDUS and Donald Trump, and just how masterful Trump's
performance was.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Its just arresting control of that exchange man. And it
doesn't it It shows you not only his strength ran
that he would sit down with these journalists are obviously
out to get him, but his mental acuity and how
he handles him.
Speaker 9 (31:47):
Anything Vladimir Putin wants piece, I think he does. Yes,
I think it does. I think people's a reigning missiles.
Speaker 8 (31:54):
I think he.
Speaker 9 (31:54):
Really his his dream was to take over the whole country.
I think because of me, She's not going to do that.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Do you trust me?
Speaker 4 (32:04):
I think?
Speaker 9 (32:04):
Do you trust him? I don't trust you. I don't
trust I don't trust a lot of people. I don't
trust you. Look at you. You come in all shooting
for bear. You're so happy to do the interview. I am.
Can you start hitting me with fake questions? He saw
telling me that a guy whose hand isscovered the tattoo
doesn't have the tattoo. You know, I mean, you're being dishonest.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
And there is so much great sound off that a
text her Dear Dan, our motorcycle Training Institute instructor, would say,
when your light turns green, it simply means the light
bulb works. Never proceed until you see all traffic stop.
It has saved my life a few times. Thank you, Texter.
We talk about that on the show all the time.
Do not go when the light turns green? You got
to look both ways. You have so many reckless drivers
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now blowing red lights. And which brings me back to
how I started the show today. So our beloved, amazing
daughter is stopped at a red light and the light
turns green.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
She doesn't go. And she said it was at.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Least a couple of seconds felt like her guardian angel.
But it was at least a couple of seconds. And
we talk about this all the time and home, but
she said no, it felt like her guardian angel.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
She does not go.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Then all of a sudden, a semi full eighteen wheeler
fully loaded, roars through the intersection, blows through a solid
red right in front of her. She says, sixty seventy
eighty miles an hour.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Well, we've got the tape.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Now we got the video, and it is a solid
green for her as that trucker comes roaring into the intersection,
so it had to be solid red with the light cycle,
it had to be solid red for seconds before he
sped through that intersection. So if she had gone when
the light turned green, she wouldn't be here. She would
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have been dead. So I am going to find him.
I'm going to find him. It's all going to be
done within the law and no behavior outside the bounds
of the law.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
But as a.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Father and just for public safety, we got to find
this guy. So be asking for your help with that.
If the former FBI guy I work with through our
law practice, if he can't decipher the writing because there
is dot a setter on the side, but the video
the image is blurred, so it's hard to make out the.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Letters and numbers.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
If we can't decipher it that way, I'm going to
release the photo and video and ask for your help
and offer some kind of reward. Ryan, thank you, my
friend for everything. Kelly a nice haircut too. Kelly, you're
the best.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Please join us tomorrow on The Dankaplo Show.
This is Dan Kaplis and welcome to today's online podcast
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So glad you're here, excuse me and appreciate all our
great callers and textures as well. There's two things we're
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talking about right now if you want to join in.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
One is is.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Very good news the US Ukraine Minerals deal. That is
a powerful message to putin right since the US now
has that security interest in Ukraine, and the US made
it clear as part of announcing that deal that this
should push putin to piece. The other is talking about
a trucker who would have killed our daughter, absolutely would
(00:47):
have killed our daughter if she had gone when the
light turned green. We we now have the video and
we can see that that light was a solid green
facing our daughter, a solid green. And she said for
at least a couple of seconds, if not longer, before
that trucker roared through the intersection. And so we talk
about it all the time at the house. Don't go
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when the light turn screens, so many people are running
red lights.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
You have to stay, you have to look. She said.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
She felt her guardian angels. She just felt she had
to wait, and he comes roaring through. She thinks, at
sixty seventy eighty miles an hour.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Or so, we've got it. George Brockler kind enough to
join us.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
So, GEORGI, yeah, we've been talking about that, not just
been telling everybody that I'm going to ask their help
and finding this trucker and then acting within the bounds
of the law, pursuing all possible legal remedies, but above
all make sure that they get this driver off the road.
But you just had tremendous success, which I was so
happy to see prosecuting as flat out murder in MVA case.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Can you fill people in on that?
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Yeah, yeah, this was a good one. Back on August
the fourth, it was a Sunday, the last day of
the Douglas County Fair last year. A family, the Anderson
So Lieutenant Colonel Islet for the Air Force, his wife
and four kids, ages eleven, eighty four and twenty months,
had pulled into a seven eleven off of Plumb Creek,
which is what you take to get to the Douglas
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County Fair and they were going to get popsicles. And
Dad gets out, starts fueling up the car. We've all
been there, I'm sure, looking in the cars, four kids.
Wife gets out of the car to go into the
seven eleven to get the popsicles. And what they don't
know is that some other guy, our defendant in this case,
who is depressed and down on life, his wife had
left him, she was having an affair on him. He
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drank himself out of alcohol, which included two bud lights
and a pint of fireball whiskey, pours himself into a
lifted twenty seventeen Chevy Silverado and plunges himself downhill on
Plumb Creek, makes a weird left cut across five lanes
of traffic, makes a bee line for the gas station,
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ends up dropping the accelerator to about ninety eight percent
almost all the way to the floor, ends up hitting
that car at about forty five miles an hour. The
car slams into Dad, takes off his leg below the knee,
throws him about fifteen feet and causes him massive and
lethal head trauma, and he ends up dying. And you
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know there are charges on the books that apply. And
I listened to, by the way, to that arrowing story
Dan that you told at the beginning of the four
o'clock hour, and I thought I'd be homicidal, Do you.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (03:28):
Like I want to go out, you want to find
someone and beat them and then go sit in front
of a jury and go, let me tell you why
I beat him.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
You know what I mean? Because yeah, I'm pretty sure dury.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Nullification applies to those cases. But so we didn't go
with just vehicular homicide. In fact, I ended up dismissing
that charge before trial because it's such a weak charge.
In Colorado. Vehicular homicide DUI causing a death is a
non mandatory that means a probation eligible four to twelve
years in DOC, and with the crazy math that DOC employees,
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a guy who gets maxed at twelve years will likely
be paroled out of jail or to concre in three
three and a half SNEX, that didn't make sense.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
So office ended up.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Charging him with extreme indifference murders and the tempted extreme
and difference murder for the kids. And the jury saw
it that way too, And now this guy is going
to on July the third, be sentenced to somewhere around
life plus up to two hundred and thirty years in
the Department of Corrections.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Man, what great work by you.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
And it's a kind of saying and your team that
makes that community safer, right because it has to it
has to. It just it makes headlines people understand because
as you say, George, right now, I mean, the laws
are so weak.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
And if you could explain to folks.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
When you talk about vehicular homicide having that non mandatory
jail time, I mean, vehicular homicide's a pretty serious charge.
You can't just go in and get vehicular homicide because
somebody has I'll call in their system and made a
small mistake.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
No, you can't. It's there's two kinds. There's reckless in
dui and the problem in future jurors ought to know
this too. When you see a charge with the word
homicide in it, at the criminal level, it is a
probation eligible charge. The only mandatory prison charges include words
like murder, assault and.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
But nobody knows that. So you know, when we ended
up going to the jury, the defense attorney offered something
called a lesser non included offense that means, hey, this
is a charge that could fit the facts as they've
come out, and he offered a criminally negligent homicide. And
that freaked me out a bit because I thought, man,
a jury could sit there and think murder. This doesn't
feel like murder. Homicide criminally negligent. It sounds like that's
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a one to three year non mandatorydoc sentence. That means
that this guy gets maxed out, they walk him out
the jail, probably within the months he gets turned around
at the Denver Regional Diagnostics Center. So he left me
with a little pit in my stomach there. But the
jury saw the aggravators and including the fact this guy
had two priors. That way, if I'm going to apply
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that aggressive logic then to what you've described. Look, this
isn't a guy who just happened to miss a stop
sign or miss a red light, and they're charges for
that failure to obey of traffic control device. That is
a ridiculously small traffic infraction with no consequences. Let's say he,
god forbid, he hurts and kills someone that's careless driving
resulting in death, That in and of itself is only
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up to a year and not even mandatory year in jail.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Well, we just saw that in Jeff go right, in
that case. It's been in the news so much with
the trucker who spelled all that pipe. The guy had
been deported so many times, spelled all that pipe on
the highway, killed Scott Miller, injured others and what did
they charge him without, Jeff go And I know you
may not be able to comment on that, but it
was that right, careless causing death and he was going
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to be out in.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Less than a year, which is a small charge. And
if you'll remember this, Dan, there was an effort in
the legislature this session within the last few weeks to
make at least an F six a sist only not
mandatory present of someone who drives and kills a pedestrian
or a bicyclist or something in careless driving resulting in death,
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and the legislature in a party line vote killed it.
The Dems don't want it. We're in an environment where,
in my opinion, prosecutors have to look at conduct like
the one you described, like we saw in the case
that we did, and evaluate it from the standpoint of
its level of how outrageous it is. And could you,
in God forbid, a situation where this trucker blows to
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an interception and kills one, could you make an argument
for something more than careless with death? And I think
you clearly could. Whether there's alcohol on board or not,
the size of the truck, the speed, the visibility, the
traffic that he can see on the road, all of
these things, an aggressive prosecutor could say, I think I
have an argument for someone who does not value use
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human life. And that's how you get it to that
next level.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Clearly, Well, I'll tell you you and your team did
a great service to public safety. But I think also
it has to support the morale of first responders, right
because they're out there dealing with this carnage, they're on
the scene, they have those images in their head.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
They have to.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Literally pick up the pieces, and it has to encourage
them that DA has their back and is saying no,
we're going to max this. And then to the family.
Obviously I can't even imagine their grief, but it has
to be some measure. There's never closures, you know, right,
but there has to be some measure of comfort and
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peace that comes with knowing that you guys went out
and that a jury did the right thing and you
got everything possible.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
That's true on the victim side. Every victim is different,
but there's there's some weird association and it's not unpredictable,
an association between the level that a killer is held
at this weird way of did the community value my
husbands for or the father and that's not true, but
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that's where it is. So getting that murder conviction does
provide a great deal of comfort. And really, let me
tell youus about the cast Rock Police department who did this.
I've never seen this in thirty years of doing this.
These guys would come in and testify, leave the witness
stand and sit in the courtroom for the rest of
the day and keep coming.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Back to the rest of the poles. Was packed with the.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Cops that investigated this case, because that's how much it
impacted them. And I was like, this is amazing.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
That is so cool to hear.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
And everything I've seen from that department in our cases
has been really impressive. But that they would come back
and sit and watch and what a powerful message that sends.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Well, great job, George. This is a kind of think,
This is a kind of prosecution. That really makes a difference.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Well, I hope you catch that dude. When you when
you described where it was, I was only bummed it
wasn't south the county line.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Yeah, no I didn't. I appreciate that, my friend. But
we will get them. We will get them, and I'll
let everybody know about it. But thanks for your time today,
of course, you take care of that is George Brockler.
Really important conviction there. Hey, welcome back to our phone
lines Texters as well, and hopefully.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
You can help me catch this guy here on the
Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
A great conversation with George Brockler. Really important conviction they
won out in Douglas on a murder charge against a
duy driver, a horrific killing at a gas station. And
that's the kind of conviction that will help make the
community safeer Texters. Exploding, Dan and Fort Collins and we
will keep an eye out for that. Semi triple exclamation
(10:49):
point thumbs up. Thank you so much for that. And
I have to tell you, Ryan, I was up in
court and Fort Collins this morning and that just has
to be one of the great cities.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
In America, and I'm not going to go on and
on about it. We have other stuff to talk about.
But I've got to tell.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
You I was just sitting up there saying, well, why
doesn't everybody live here?
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Right? I mean, it's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
The courthouse is absolutely magnificent. And then I walk about
a block from the courthouse because you know how I
like to have breakfast at Snooze. They've got a Snooze
up there in Fort Collins. It was a third Snooze
opened original manager still there. I walk about a block
or two from the courthouse, there's a Snooze. It's this
beautiful kind of old style main street and it's just like.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
This has to be one of the great places in America.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Before I go back to the phone lines, if you
just joined us, and want to give you a little
sense to what we're talking about here, because it is
one of the most important things in life to you
right now, and that is for you and everybody you love.
It may be the greatest danger that you and your
family are facing, unless your police, fire, military, etc. Is
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from reckless truckers. And obviously we have a lot of
great truckers, they're heroes. The reckless truckers are a menace
and an extreme danger to you, and that number is growing.
And so what I'm talking about right now is we
have the photo.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Now we have the video.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Our daughter was sitting there, driving great as she always does,
sitting at a red light, and then the light turned green,
and she did not go. As we talk, not every night,
but we talk as I've sat on air at home
at the dinner table, about do not go when the
light turns green. So many drug drivers, so many reckless
drivers blow in red lights. You cannot go when the
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light turns green. You have to look. So she did
not go, and she said she kind of felt her
guardian angel, and she waited, and she said she waited
two or three seconds, and then this huge eighteen wheeler
with a big flatbed a hauling material roars through the
red light. Now, she says, she thought it was at
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sixty seventy eighty miles an hour, but it roars right
through a solid red So the bottom line is this,
for everybody listening right now, the most precious thing in
the world to you is your children. And if our
wonderful daughter had simply driven forward when the light turned green,
she would be dead. That's the undeniable reality. And I'm
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going to find this trucker no matter what it takes,
and I will act within the bounds of the law.
I will never act outside the law, but I will
maximize everything possible within the bounds of the law. Not
out of retribution or anger or vengeance, though I feel
all of that, as you would after you saw this photo.
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But we got to save other people. I literally, thank God.
It's a miracle she's still with us. But we got
to save other people. And I know one thing from
handling these semi cases for decades here and elsewhere, this
ain't going to be a one off. Somebody driving an
eighteen wheeler down Bellevue at high speed through solid red
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in the middle of the day, that's not going to
be a one off. So gotta find this guy. Just
just gotta protect other people. And as a father, I
gotta find this guy. Linda and Lakewood, you're on the
Dan Kaplis Show.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Welcome, Oh, welcome. Thanks.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
I just would to let you know what happened to me.
By the grace of God, I was coming out of
the Denver Federal Center at lunchtime and these teenagers key
boned my nineteen seventy two car, and I just got
a bruise.
Speaker 6 (14:30):
Sigh, thank God.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Good good. What kind of caray? Was seventy two?
Speaker 6 (14:34):
One?
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Since I'm seventy five.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Oh but you said in nineteen seventy two car, what
kind of carrion?
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Well, I was twenty two.
Speaker 6 (14:41):
I was in Chevy Chavelle.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Wallabou okay, okay, and then.
Speaker 6 (14:45):
I came out.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
They hit me, and ever since then, nineteen seventy two,
that card. It was in nineteen seventy four when I
got hit. I looked before at the red light three
times before I go across the street.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Amen's sister, and thank you for that. And if somebody
behind you, Hanks, well you can live with that. Which
you can't live with is getting tee bone by a semi.
So do not go when the light turns red. You've
got to look both ways. And Dan speaking of Fort
Collins Main Street, USA, and Disneyland was modeled after Fort Collins.
See that would make sense to me because as I
was walking out of court and down that street today,
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I thought, Wow, this is cool. I feel like I'm
back in time in a very cool way.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
I've just yeah, I don't understand why everybody doesn't live
in four colins. What kind of.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Equipment was on the truck and what color is the equipment?
Our friend Steve Reams wrote me back because I sent
the photo to Steve just as a friend. He said,
looks to be hauling some kind of bags of aggregate
at the front of his trailer. And it's a it's
a particularly large cab, but it's a sleeper in a
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particularly large one, red with white lettering on the side.
The problem is the quality of the video is so
poor that you can clearly see the semi. You can
clearly see the green light that our daughter had, solid
green as the semi is entering the intersection, but you can't.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Make out the words on the side.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
So I've got a former FBI guy doing his thing
to try to clear up that type and identify it
that way, Tom and me, you're on the Dan Kaplis Show.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Welcome.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Hi Dan.
Speaker 7 (16:29):
I'm really glad. Caroline's okay everything. You know, you're a
great driving instructor. I told my daughters to always scout
the intersection before you go through green light. Yeah, so
my other so, my broader question to you is, I mean,
what is there any that that thing sounds like that
trucker dude was on his phone, is what that sounds like?
I was almost killed by a fat X driver that way,
(16:53):
And you know what what what laws or legislation as
any is afoot?
Speaker 4 (16:59):
Do you know?
Speaker 7 (17:00):
Stop this texting? And it just got to stop.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Man, Well they Democrats just killed it. George Brockler was
on the show a few minutes ago talking about it.
There was a bipartisan effort to try to strengthen these
laws to at least have a felony charge for some
of this horrible traffic stuff, and the Democrats killed it.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
So, like George was.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Talking about right now, people would think, Okay, careless resulting
in death, that would be a very serious thing. You
go to jail for a long time. No, No, it's
so pathetically weak. A careless resulting in death And you
just saw a trucker get it from the jeffco DA
after spilled all that pipe on the highway. Full disclosure,
I'm involved in that case as a lawyer, and i'd
(17:40):
depose that trucker in jail a few weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
But no, that's.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Pathetically We carries less than a year in jail. Tom,
You're welcome to hang man, I got to hit this brake.
We're going to come back, continue this conversation. But also
very important deal today between the US and Ukraine should
send a powerful message to Satan on Earth and hopefully
help speed up the end of that meat grinder war
(18:04):
here on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
You're listening to the Dan Kapliss Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
It's so interesting who the Democrats are choosing to champion
these days, right, like the quote Maryland Man Jessee. The
latest on that Ryan, The administration just released a second
protective order that had been issued there or filed for,
and I believe issued where a woman had accused him
of kicking, slapping, shoving, mental injury of a child, and
(18:37):
detaining against will, among other acts of abuse. Hey, we're
talking about a few different things this afternoon. One very
near and dear to you and to your family and
all of your loved ones, because I assume that you drive,
and we're talking about reckless truckers and what we need
to do about him because these state's laws are so soft,
(18:58):
and you see the carnage just mounting mountain. And I
always try to throw in disclaimer or qualifier. I should
call it simply out of fairness. And that is that
there are a lot of great truckers and it's a
hard job in their heroes, and obviously the wheels of
society would stop turning without them. But I'm just telling you,
as a guy who does this kind of law, that
(19:20):
the number of reckless truckers is growing and you and
your family are in danger in a big way every
single day. And that's a prelude to this, and that
is we have the video. Now we have the photo.
Our daughter had told us she was stopped at a
light and when the light turned green, she did not go.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
And we talk about that at home.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
A bunch don't go in the light turns green, so
many reckless drivers. But she said she just felt felt
like it was her guardian angel something telling her not
to go. Said the light was green for at least
a couple of seconds, and then this semi she told us,
just came roaring through from left to right, from east
to west down Bellevue and and if she had gone,
(20:01):
she would have been killed, she told us.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
So we went on the.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Hunt and we now have video and you can see
and she described, you can't make it, you can't calculate
the speed off the video without the accident recon getting involved,
and we will get him involved. But she estimated it
like sixty to eighty and I would absolutely believe it
given what we can First, she tell us the truth. Second,
what we can see on that video, which is her
(20:27):
light is a solid green as a semi begins to
enter the intersection. So that means, given light sequencing that
some I would have had a hard read for a
while before it roared through that intersection. So think about it,
and I've got to think about it as a father,
and it's got me this combination of grateful and and
(20:50):
what's the word that's appropriate on a family show, grateful
and furious beyond imagination. And it's a weird coming, right
because I feel grateful all the time, but I've never
felt grateful. At the same time, I felt absolutely furious.
And so I'm going to find this guy, no matter
what it takes. I'm going to find this guy and
(21:12):
to operate within the bounds of the law, do everything
within the law. But for everybody's safety, And as a father,
got to find this guy and make sure he can't
hurt anybody else, and they'll all be done within the law.
I'm not talking about anything extra judicial. Let me go
back to the phone lines here. Let's talk too about
Tom and Mead Colorado. You're on the Dan Kaplis show.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Welcome.
Speaker 7 (21:35):
Yeah, so, Dan, as we're discussing earlier, I think the
laws are way too leanient in Colorado for texting and driving.
I would also say that I think it is far
more dangerous to text and drive than it is to
drink and drive, only because your eyes are off the road.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Well, my friend, the way I describe it to jury
in cases like that is they're driving blindfolded. Anybody who's
texting and driving has made a decision to put on
a blindfold and drive that vehicle anyway. It's the same
as if they had walked out into the middle of
that traffic lane and they they beeping.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
At you, tom.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
Light.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Oh no, but I met the horn in the background. Yeah,
so what, I'm what, Oh, that's what happened. Okay, so,
but it's the same. I'm curious, Wow while we talk.
Speaker 7 (22:33):
Okay, I'm hands free, okay.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Okay, good good, I'm glad.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
And he's sitting there texting in front of you.
Speaker 7 (22:41):
Yeah, there's they're worse than the people at the gym.
I go to the gym and they're sitting on the machine, and.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
It's ridiculously to appreciate the calm.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Uh you gotta laugh at your cry.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
But but yeah, that's how I explain it to jury's
and and people agree. It's like driving blindfolded. When somebody's
texting and driving. It's like somebody just walking out in
the middle of the lane of traffic and firing a
an automatic weapon down the roadway. I mean, it is
that reckless. But our laws are so pathetic, and the
(23:13):
Democrats just killed a bill that would have made them
at least a little more just. So why do you
think the Democrats want to protect reckless drivers? I'd love
your thoughts on that. Three or three seven three eight
two five five text d A N five seven seven
three nine Jay and Denver, you're on the Dane.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Capitalist sh'll welcome.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Hi.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
Can you hear me?
Speaker 2 (23:34):
I can hear you now? Trademark?
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Good?
Speaker 6 (23:37):
So, I well, I said, Denver, But I really live
in Arvada. So it was just yesterday my pastor and
his wife and his wife was driving was turning at
the light at Wadsworth in fifty eighth.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Yeah, and.
Speaker 6 (23:57):
So they're turning and they get through the intersection and
here comes this car. She can see it in her
rear view mirror, went through the red light, didn't even
see her, but she saw him and changed lanes, reel
fast and avoided, you know, a rear end. It was, man,
(24:19):
really scary. It scared her end. It scared the driver
because he realized what he had done and started going
real slow.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Yeah, man, Jay, appreciate the car. You know what's crazy, man,
is there are so many drug drivers. And I understand
we've got a lot of reckless drivers who aren't on drugs,
but there are.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Because they don't think there's any enforcement. And don't blame
law enforcement for that.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Law enforcements out there doing everything they can, you know,
blaming the people who aren't funding them, the people who
aren't supporting them, et cetera. But you got a lot
of these crazies who think they won't get caught no
matter what they do.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
But then you have so many more drivers on drugs.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
In my experience, in my law practice, because we handle
these horrible crashes, so many more drivers on drugs. And Ryan,
this is so deeply disturbing. It used to be the
drug driving cases, right, They would normally be at night,
Now we see them twenty four to seven.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
That's what George is saying.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
So many drug driving cases, not drunk, but drugged, like
it's seven.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
In the morning, eight in the morning.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
And then obviously you can get drunk driving all the
time too, but so many of these early morning drug
driving cases. You just have so many people in Colorado
right now who are just using drugs all the time,
and then you can see the effect on the roadway.
Let's go to dab in Denver. You're on the dan
Kapla show.
Speaker 8 (25:38):
Welcome, Hello, thank you. I would like to suggest everyone
put a Saint Christopher metal in their car, maybe two
as a patron saying of safe driving. I just wanted
to refer to the Denver University basketball player who has
the famous I don't know if he's still playing for
(26:01):
the Denver Nuggets brother who plowed through an intersection a
light and killed this woman.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
She was doing a wonderful woman.
Speaker 8 (26:14):
Yes, now what, I live in that neighborhood and I
use that street frequently and I often think I should
look it up. I bet he's out of jail or
never even went to jail and it just breaks my heart.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Yeah, that was such a horrific case. Ironically that happened
below our daughter's apartment window. Just horrific. Thank you for
that called dab. But it just comes back to in general,
and people have no idea, right and I guarantee you
have no idea how weak and soft our traffic laws are,
even when it comes to killers. And there's so much
(26:51):
harm done that still leaves the victim alive and carved
up and crippled and all these other horrible things, and
our laws are so soft. That has got to change. Clearly,
the Democrats aren't going to do it. They just killed
a bill with the legislature that had bipartisan support.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
But what do you think?
Speaker 1 (27:10):
And we've got to pop this break, but I'd love
your take on the other side. Why do you think
the Democrats killed a bill that would have toughened the
traffic laws for people who kill? Why do you think
they killed that bill?
Speaker 2 (27:22):
You're on the Dankapla Show.
Speaker 5 (27:31):
And now back to the dan Kaplass Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Glad you're here.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Good news the US and Ukraine signing a minerals deal
in the administration issue. In a statement with that today.
This is a message to Putin. He needs to make peace.
The US and Ukraine are aligned, they have this common
economic interest, and that's powerful because Putin is satan and
there should not be American boots on the ground. And
this cannot be an endless war. And Biden's weakness unfortunately
(27:58):
opened the door to it. And then just mating unlimited
amounts of money with no plan for success. And you know,
the real horror of Ukraine is first obviously Putin and
is rapid and pellaging of that nation, but also that
Europe wouldn't stand up for Ukraine because I told you
on day one, anybody could see it. Putin was going
to succeed in Ukraine unless Europe made it clear they
(28:21):
would put boots.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
On the ground.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
That was the only thing that was going to stop
Putin's march. And Europe refused to do that. You got
all kinds of talk, and you got some money, but Putin.
You know, evil doesn't mean dumb. It just means there's
intelligence being misused for evil purposes. And Putin's as evil
as it comes. And then Putin could see, yeah, he
(28:43):
can do the math. If Europe isn't willing to put
boots on the ground, He's going to be able to
overwhelm Ukraine, and unfortunately, evil Putin is going to gain
some territory through this invasion. And that's sick. And don't
blame Trump. That's not on Trump, that's on Biden and
the left. I'm just trying to stop the carnage. But
I am hoping and expecting that this deal now with
(29:06):
Ukraine sends a powerful message to Putin because Trump, it's
always been piece through strength, and Putin at this point
has not come to the table in good faith. And
he's got to know just from watching Trump that if
he doesn't do it soon, well Trump's going to find
other ways to make life difficult for Putin. Three h
three someone three eight two five five the number, Text
(29:27):
d An five seven seven three nine Text Dan, Glad
your daughter's safe. There needs to be a crackdown on speeding,
reckless tall getting truckers on our highway.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Stephen Lyttleton, Well, that.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Is very, very true, and it is a matter of fundamental,
urgent matter of public safety that that happened, and that
it happened beyond the trucking industry as well. You got
to start with the trucking industry, because that's sixty seventy
eighty thousand pounds, right, and polist did so much to
undermine safety in this state. When Kim Kardashian whispers in
(29:59):
his ears and then he gives that enormous break, defies,
the judge defies, the jury defies, the prosecutor gives that
enormous break to the trucker who knew, who knew his
truck was unsafe, his breaks, it overheatd.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Even got out and got back in anyway.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
And then you get all these people, this big fireball,
all these people killed on our highway on I seventy
and police cuts this guy a break to make Kim
Kardashian happy. That did so much to undermine safety here
because guess what, the trucking industry nationwide. And I spend
a lot of time on those cases. I was doing
a deposition on one of those cases yesterday. Spent a
(30:35):
lot of time on those cases. And I know the
good ones, the good companies, the good drivers, they're heroes.
But the bad ones, and that number is growing, they
are a clear and present danger to everybody. And they talk,
they talk around the nation. I mean, hey, you don't
think truckers know. You don't think truckers know which city
and states are absolutely going to hammer them if they're
(30:57):
unsafe there, and which cities.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
And states are going to give him a pat on
the back.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
And say, oh, it'll be better next time. Yeah, they know,
they know. Three or three someone three eight, two, five,
five the number.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Young Ryan. We have not had much of a chance
to talk today.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
What words of wisdom did you share on your Grade
two to four show in the Denver market each afternoon
at six thirty kh W Denver.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Well.
Speaker 5 (31:19):
I was just talking about how the media I really
focused in on this sit down interview between Terry Moran
of ABCDUS and Donald Trump, and just how masterful Trump's
performance was.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
Its just arresting control of that exchange man. And it
doesn't it It shows you not only his strength ran
that he would sit down with these journalists are obviously
out to get him, but his mental acuity and how
he handles him.
Speaker 9 (31:47):
Anything Vladimir Putin wants piece, I think he does. Yes,
I think it does. I think people's a reigning missiles.
Speaker 8 (31:54):
I think he.
Speaker 9 (31:54):
Really his his dream was to take over the whole country.
I think because of me, She's not going to do that.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Do you trust me?
Speaker 4 (32:04):
I think?
Speaker 9 (32:04):
Do you trust him? I don't trust you. I don't
trust I don't trust a lot of people. I don't
trust you. Look at you. You come in all shooting
for bear. You're so happy to do the interview. I am.
Can you start hitting me with fake questions? He saw
telling me that a guy whose hand isscovered the tattoo
doesn't have the tattoo. You know, I mean, you're being dishonest.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
And there is so much great sound off that a
text her Dear Dan, our motorcycle Training Institute instructor, would say,
when your light turns green, it simply means the light
bulb works. Never proceed until you see all traffic stop.
It has saved my life a few times. Thank you, Texter.
We talk about that on the show all the time.
Do not go when the light turns green? You got
to look both ways. You have so many reckless drivers
(32:45):
now blowing red lights. And which brings me back to
how I started the show today. So our beloved, amazing
daughter is stopped at a red light and the light
turns green.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
She doesn't go. And she said it was at.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Least a couple of seconds felt like her guardian angel.
But it was at least a couple of seconds. And
we talk about this all the time and home, but
she said no, it felt like her guardian angel.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
She does not go.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
Then all of a sudden, a semi full eighteen wheeler
fully loaded, roars through the intersection, blows through a solid
red right in front of her. She says, sixty seventy
eighty miles an hour.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Well, we've got the tape.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Now we got the video, and it is a solid
green for her as that trucker comes roaring into the intersection,
so it had to be solid red with the light cycle,
it had to be solid red for seconds before he
sped through that intersection. So if she had gone when
the light turned green, she wouldn't be here. She would
(33:44):
have been dead. So I am going to find him.
I'm going to find him. It's all going to be
done within the law and no behavior outside the bounds
of the law.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
But as a.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Father and just for public safety, we got to find
this guy. So be asking for your help with that.
If the former FBI guy I work with through our
law practice, if he can't decipher the writing because there
is dot a setter on the side, but the video
the image is blurred, so it's hard to make out the.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Letters and numbers.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
If we can't decipher it that way, I'm going to
release the photo and video and ask for your help
and offer some kind of reward. Ryan, thank you, my
friend for everything. Kelly a nice haircut too. Kelly, you're
the best.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Please join us tomorrow on The Dankaplo Show.
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