May 13, 2025 • 35 mins
In the first hour of today's edition of the show, Dan Caplis talks with Gordon Chang about the threat China poses to the United States of America.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast edition
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in the Mid East Today, we have some amazing sound
be interesting to see if you agree or disagree with
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the foreign policy pronouncements, but bold leadership to say the least.
Speaking of bold, let's go to the VIP line and
welcome Gordon G.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Chang.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
That's how you follow him on acts at Gordon G.
Chang and he is author of Plan Red, China's project
to destroy America, the coming collapse of China and China
is going to war, so the perfect guy to talk
to you about who's winning this trade war between the
US and China, particularly after at least the framework of
a deal over the weekend. Gordon, Welcome to the Dan
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Capla Show.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Well, thank you so much, Dan, Well grateful for your time.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
So let's start with that. Who's winning the trade war
right now between the US and China.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
We don't know, first of all, on the trade arrangements
that were announced on Monday. The Chinese clearly got the
better of the deal. Now, a lot of people are
saying that Trump gaved in. I don't think so. I
think Trump purposefully let the Chinese off the hook because,
as the President said on Monday, his tariffs were causing
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factories to close in China and a lot of distress,
and he didn't want to see that. And by implication,
he said he wanted to have a good relationship in
order to have a great deal that would benefit both
the Chinese and American publics. So I think Trump purposefully
gave the Chinese a lot of what they needed to
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get through the next three months. Now, this was a
big concession because during the next three months, these Chinese
factories are going to be shipping for Christmas. So we'll
see if the Chinese reciprocate.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
And then what do you think the President's move will
be If they don't.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I would love to know, because it is unlikely after
the end of three months that the Chinese will agree
to what President Trump has said. That is a total
reset of the relationship in China opening up its economy
to American goods. We've wanted that for centuries. We thought
we got it in two thousand and one when China
joined the World Trade Organization. The Chinese have violated their commitments,
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and China's violated It's one trade deal with President Trump.
That was the one in January twenty twenty, the so
called Phase one trade deal. So we're going against a
lot of history here. But if anybody can do it,
president Trump can. But this is obviously critical. And at
the end of the ninety days, if the Chinese don't
come to terms, and I hope that President Trump actually
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hits them with tariffs, if he doesn't do it, then
I'm very concerned that what looks like a temporary arrangement
is becoming perm.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
And what did President Trump give China in this temporary arrangement.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
What he did was he took off the remedies that
we have for China's intellectual property theft as well as
for its predatory trade practices, and that is one hundred
and forty five percent tariffs. Now, the Chinese also dropped
their tariffs, but the mutual arrangement helps China's exporters much
more than ours, because it was our tariffs that were
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preventing the Chinese from selling to American consumers. But it
wasn't the Chinese tariffs that are preventing Americans from selling
to China. What's preventing us from selling to China are
the non tariff barriers, and those remain in place during
this for ninety day period.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Gordon Chang our guest, Gordon g Chang at Gordon g
Chang and X. Now, how much of this do you
think was driven You mentioned the pipeline and upcoming I mean,
it's weird, isn't it to talk about the upcoming Christmas season?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
But how much of this was driven by needing.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
To make sure there are stocked shelves in America come
the holiday season and prices under control.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Yeah, those are the two things that people have talked
about as the reasons why Trump paid. One of them
is empty shelves and the other's inflation. I think Trump
was probably more influenced by the shelves argument because he
had the retailers over, he talked to them, and apparently
they convinced him that they were going to be shortages.
But I don't think he was really concerned about inflation.
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And in fact, we saw the inflation number one yesterday,
which was below expectations, which shows that Trump's policies economic
policies are working, which shows that the fears that people
have on the East Coast, you know, New York and Washington,
that probably just sort of exaggerated. So I'm not sure
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that Trump was really moved by all of that. But
I think he was more concerned because we heard what
he said from the White House yesterday, you know, I
think he was more concerned about coming to a deal.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Did President Trump get any significant concessions as part of
this deal, anything significant on fentanyl.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
For example, I don't think so. I'm sure the Chinese
will say something. I'm sure it'll sound significant. Yeah, but
let's remember the campaign has made a promise on fatanyl
to President Biden in twenty twenty three, to President Trump
in twenty eighteen, and to President Obama in twenty sixteen,
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and the fatanyel problem has only gotten worse. Right, So yes,
they'll talk a lot about it, but no, I don't
think we're going to see any real progress.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
So bringing us back to, you know, the starting point,
what is what is a Communist Party of China's long
term mission?
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Here?
Speaker 1 (05:46):
It sounds like it remains unchanged, and long term mission
is to undermine the United States continue the chemical weapons
attack in the form of fentanyl and to surpass the
US as the world's global superpower.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Is that fair?
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Yeah? And I don't have any problem with any country
that wants to surpass ups. Every country should want to
be number one. Well, we got a problem with our
China's tactics. First of all, they want to take down
the international system and replace it with worldwide Chinese rule.
And they're actually killing Americans with fentanyl, had with COVID.
So I have a problem with what they're doing, not
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what they're trying to do.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Great point again, Non Gordon, chang our guests.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
So in our last minute, Gordon, if you are sitting
down with the President right now and President was going
to do whatever you wanted him to do with regard
to China.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
What would that be.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
I would say to him that he needs to have
a candid talk with the American people because Si Jumping
is preparing to go to war, and I say to him,
we need to get our factories out of China. And
the other thing I'd say is he's having a great
job in the Middle East. Today was a fantastic day
for America. Why do you say that, because first of all,
he is recreating his accomplishments of the first term with
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getting together a great relationship with Saudi Arabia. He's giving
Syria a chance to move out of terrorism and the
horrific regime of Assad with their new president who wants
to make Syria look like America, with American business. I
think that's a terrific approach. And so therefore let's give
the guy in Syria a chance.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
And Gordon, what would you say to the folks who say, well,
wait a second, what about the human rights abuses in
Saudi Arabia, Syria, etc.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
You know what President Trump said, and that is that
it's not our job to police human rights and give
them our sense of what should be done, except in
extreme circumstances, where you have in China genocide that does
rise to the level of international concern. But Saudi Arabia
is moving in the right direction on all fronts. And
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in Syria you have a new government which is led
by now led by a former militant, but a guy
who really wants to bring Syria in from the cult.
So these are good things. We're looking at the general direction.
And by the way, when we focus on the murder
of one individual, Jamal Kashogi by the Saudis in twenty eighteen.
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We basically opened up the Middle East to Chinese and
Russian and Iranian influence in a way that that led
to many more deaths.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
And let me ask you, is Syria the treatment of Christians?
I mean, I think we've recently seen mass slaughter or
large scale killing, torture, etc.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Is that getting better?
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Do you expect at this point that to stop? Or
is that going to be an ongoing persecution in Syria?
Speaker 3 (08:46):
President Shara has talked about religious freedom, about guaranteeing those
lives of Christians and Jews and Drews in his country
religious minorities, all three of them, and I believe that
he is serious about it. We will find out he
has a terrible time trying to exert his governance throughout
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all of Assyria because he's now got Turkey trying to
break it apart, and all sorts of things in Iran,
with all sorts of mision making. But I do believe
that he does understand that religious freedom is an essential
part of his remaking Syria in an image that the
world will accept.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
My last question, toughest one, which of your books is
your favorite, plain red China's project to destroy America, the
coming collapse of China or China is going to war.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
My favorite is what I write on Twitter every day because.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
It is up to date.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Okay, great answer. Hey, Gordon, appreciate the time.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Thank you well, thank you so much. I appreciate the time.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
You take care of That is Gordon g Chang. Check
him out on X Hey when we come back. A
smoking hot sound from the President in the Mid East.
You heard Gordon referring to that A second to go
certainly bold, certainly bold, new public foreign policy approach and
just as always at the president, fascinating and funny.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
You're on the Dan Capla Show.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
A deal with Iran. If I can make a deal
with Iran, I'll be very happy.
Speaker 7 (10:28):
If we're going to make your region and the world's
a safer place. But if Iran's leadership rejects this solid
branch and continues to attack their neighbors, then we will
have no choice but to inflict massive maximum pressure drive
Iranian oil exports.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
To zero like I did before. You know that they
were a.
Speaker 7 (10:51):
Virtually bankrupt country because of what I did. They had
no money for terror, they had no money for Hamas
or Hezbola, and take all action required to stop the
regime from ever having a nuclear weapon.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
Iran will never have a nuclear weapon.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Piece through strength.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Really some compelling sound out of Saudi Arabia today and
some amazing images as well. Three H three someone three
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on anything that interests you at all. We love variety
here textures as well. Dan excellent interview with Gordon Chang.
Just wish it lasted longer, Thank you. Yeah, I'd love
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to have Gordon Chang as a regular Can we arrange that, guys?
Speaker 8 (11:37):
Oh yeah, we always on good terms with the person
that matters most Lydia Chang, Orgon's wife.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Hmmm.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
I was going to ask if there's any relation, but yeah,
get our regular dose of vitamin g ah. So yeah,
we'll see where it goes from there. And again, now
you know, Gordon Chang very supportive of President Trump, but
just thinks that China gained a lot in this deal
over the weekend and the US did not. But Gordon
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optimistic that long term Trump has a plan there, so
we will find out together. Markets are liking what's happening now,
and I think again it's all consistent with the point
that this never was about Trump instituting very large tariffs
to play out over the next five to ten years,
et cetera. It was about getting negotiating leverage to try
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to level the playing field significantly more than it is
right now. Gordon's saying that hasn't worked with China yet,
and we'll see where that goes. Three or three someone
three eight, two five five the number. Let's go back
to the Mid East for a second, because some very
compelling stuff from the President's to president today. Let me
give you a taste of that and picture of the setting. Okay,
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you're in Saudi Arabia. Picture this, you know, very ornate,
high tech room. I assume it was a modified ballroom,
you know, with the with the cutting edge technology and
electronic screens. You have a version of the American flag
and then the Saudi flag as well that the crown
prints you know, downfront and center, and the President addressing
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obviously Saudi Arabia, but the entire Mid East. And I'll
play a few of these back to back before our eyes.
Speaker 7 (13:15):
A new generation of leaders is transcending the ancient conflicts
of tired divisions of the past and forging a future
where the Middle East is defined by commerce not chaos,
where it exports technology not terrorism, and where people of
different nations, religions, and creeds are building cities together, not
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bombing each other out of existence.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
We don't want that.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
And you know, it seems to be a fair amount
of truth and what the President's saying. Obviously you still
have support for terrorism in certain of these countries in
the mid East, etc. But there does appear to be
very tangible progress, and.
Speaker 7 (13:54):
It's crucial for the wider world to note this great
transformation has not come from Western intervention noless or flying
people and beautiful planes giving you lectures on how to
live and how to govern your own affairs. Now, the
leaming marvels of Riad and Abu Dhabi were not created
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by the so called nation builders, neocons or liberal nonprofits
like those who spent trillions and trillions of dollars failing
to develop Kabal Baghdad so many other cities.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Yeah, boy, powerful point, powerful point made by the president there,
And what do you believe his endgame is here.
Speaker 7 (14:41):
Instead, the birth of a modern Middle East has been
brought by the people of the region themselves, the people
that are right here, the people that have lived here
all their lives, developing your own sovereign countries, pursuing your
own unique visions and charting your own destinies and your
own way.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
It's really incredible what you've done.
Speaker 7 (15:03):
In the end, the so called nation builders wrecked far
more nations than they built, and the interventionalists were intervening
in complex societies that they did not even understand themselves.
They told you how to do it, but they had
no idea how to do it themselves. Peace, prosperity, and
progress ultimately came not from a radical rejection of your heritage,
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but rather from embracing your national traditions and embracing that
same heritage that you love so dearly.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
And obviously the comments very well received in Saudi Arabian
and I'm sure across the Mid East. And again, where
do you think ultimately the president wants to take all
of this.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
I mean it starts with peace.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Right Obviously, there's a big prosperity piece because there were
many high dollar investment deals announced as part of today,
and I'm sure there will be each and everyday investment
deals in the US.
Speaker 7 (16:00):
Yet I'm here today not merely to condemn the past
chaos of Iran's leaders, but to offer them a new path,
and a much better path, toward a far better.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
And more hopeful future.
Speaker 7 (16:12):
As I've shown repeatedly, I am willing to end past
conflicts and forge new partnerships for a better and more
stable world, even of our differences may be very profound,
which obviously they are in the case of Iran. I
have never believed in having permanent enemies.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
I am different than a lot of people think.
Speaker 7 (16:33):
I don't like permanent enemies, but sometimes you need enemies
to do the job, and you have to do it right.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
Enemies get you motivated.
Speaker 7 (16:42):
In fact, some of the closest friends of the United
States of America nations we fought wars against in generations pasts,
and now they're our friends and our allies.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
See.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
I think this is an absolutely brilliant part of the
overall plant right, which is to isolate the Ranian leadership,
come to the Mid East and say, hey, wait a second,
you know we want to work together, make everybody prosper.
All the comments you just heard about all of these
peaceful and prosperous alternatives to to terrorism, bombing, et cetera.
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But but everybody's got to get together. Everybody's got to
get together and help me do what has to be
done with Iran because they cannot have a nuclear weapon.
So I think that's a you know, he's got his
priority straight right. You cannot let Aron get a nuclear weapon.
And then we'll get into some more of the specific
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comments about Iran and then some of the wildest sound.
I mean, I talk about symbolism closing the comments today
with YMCA in the heart of Saudi Arabia, you.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Have a tremendous future. Thank you very much, and please
pay my respects to your father.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
I can.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
I thought that was dubbed over at first.
Speaker 6 (18:07):
The Saudi seemed to be enjoying it too.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
I thought, he's up there on stage at the Goohn friends,
YMC is played only President Trump. So I want to
get your reaction to all that. We'll have some more
of that hot take sound out of there. A lot
more we need to talk about today, and I do
want to address a topic that transcends sports, and it's
you know, Colorado Rockies have become a national story right now,
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obviously because of the extent of the losing, but I
think it gives rise to a really important issue and
even bigger issue that I want to a bound Sophia.
I'm anxious to get your take on, you know, because
my view of things is that that ownership of a
professional sports team, no matter what the team is, is
part of a public trust and not just a business operation.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
You're on the Dan Kapla shelf.
Speaker 6 (19:04):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 7 (19:08):
Believe it is God's job to sit in judgment, my
job to defend America and to promote the fundamental interest
of stability, prosperity, and peace.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
That's what I really want to do.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Yeah, very very bold foreign policy announced today by President
Trump in the Mid East, And as we were talking
about in the last segment, we'll get you some more
of this really compelling sound. You know, the overall framework
makes perfect sense, right, which is, Hey, what is the
biggest threat right now? What is the biggest threat right
now to world peace? What is the biggest threat right
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now to America? It's a nuclear Iran. And so I
think President Trump very focused on, you know, isolating Iran
within the Mid East as well. And can you just
imagine can you imagine a world, a world with the
evil Iranian regime overthrown and the people of Iran liberated,
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right because they've been hostages too for how many years now, right,
I remember being an Airbeck and you weren't born then yet,
right like two thousand and nine or so, the people
of Iran in the streets crying Obama, save us, Obama
save us, and he turned his back on the people
of Iran. And so this type of approach from President
Trump to isolate that evil Iranian leadership. Yeah, let's hope
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that that works, because wow, how great that would be
for the people of Iran. But certainly the people of
our great Ali Israel, the entire Mid East America itself.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
And I know that's a lot to say.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
The greatest threat in the world right now is a
nuclear Iran. When we're looking at some true demons, like
right out of health demons when you talk about putin right,
Kim Jong un, etc. Ji, though he looks more Panda like,
is clearly Communist Party of China evil, but Iran and
Iran getting a nuclear weapon when they've made it very
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clear what they do with it. Yeah, I think is
right to be very focused on that, but very compelling
stuff today in the Mid East. Anxious to get your
take on the underlying policy. You just earned a big
part of it there, which is that it's not America's
job to judge. And you know, he's referring to some
pretty serious stuff there, right. I mean, you're you're talking
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about a country in Saudi Arabia that's doing a lot
of good things, but still doing a lot of things,
you know, cutting people's heads off and treatment of women,
et cetera. And then of course as you move throughout
the Mid East. But I think there's going to be
an awful lot of support in America, you know, for
that pronunciation from President Trump, but would like to get
your reaction to it.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Three or three someone three eight.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
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three nine, and a couple of texts on that. Dan
feels like Trump is trying to implement his long term legacy,
no question about I don't think there's any question that. Certainly,
since the time he was saved in that Butler field,
my personal belief I know from reading it's as well,
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but he in America to a very significant extent, saved,
you know, in that Butler field, I think President Trump
has been laser focused on making the most of every
second and of leaving that long term legacy, even if
it means short term pain for him. Right because this
tariff play, I mean, he was cruising. He could have
done the sugar high thing for four years, left even
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more dead for people down the road, but he did
something that was going to be painful for him short
term because he believes it's best for the US long term.
And so no, I think you're absolutely right about that.
But a big part of that is going to be, okay,
who his successor is, because as many great things as
he's accomplishing and can accomplish during this four year term,
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we know what happens after the midterms, right, certainly not
in his commander in chief role, but in other respects.
Attention then turns to his successor, to the twenty eighth cycle.
And so for Trump's legacy to truly be cemented, because
so much of this right now is e os. Right,
these these executive orders he's going to have, he's going
to have to have at least one hopefully two successors
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totally you know, same approach. Another sixteen years after these
four is probably what it's going to take to really
cement it. And that would include the courts, that would
include policy, that would include you know, getting Republican majorities
that could take a lot of this great EO stuff
and turn it into legislation. So that's where you start
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to get to the successor issue. And that's one of
the cool things for the GOP right is just the
enormous amount of talent on that bench. And then you
compare it to the Democrats. But even if the Democrats
had a healthy bench and right now they've just got
like rotted wood legs on that bench, it's nothing. You
know that the GOP an abundance of riches. But you know,
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is it going to be Jadvans, Is it going to
be Marco Rubio? Is it going to be one of
a number of other really talented folks. So a lot
to be excited about. There no guarantees, but a lot
to be excited about. Alexa says, how amazing as dj
t ben the last few days he has accomplished.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Multiple incredible feats. So alexis fired up.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Guys and Hey, the guy is certainly off to the
fastest start of any president in our lifetimes, right. Can
anybody think of somebody who had a quicker jump start?
Speaker 6 (24:21):
Here?
Speaker 1 (24:21):
And I just keep coming back to did he really
end the speech in Saudi Arabia? Obviously this Saudis knew
this was coming. I assume they're controlling the audio system there.
But ending with Ymca Ryan, when you first heard.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
That, did you think that had been dubbed?
Speaker 8 (24:40):
I wasn't sure because the audio quality, like you said,
it was very good. I think they just kind of
took that channel. They went off of the Trump Mike
fee and it was.
Speaker 6 (24:49):
What was going on?
Speaker 8 (24:49):
No, I confirmed it and the Crown Friends goes up there,
looks like he's having a good time, shakes President Trump's hand.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
Multiple sources and have a momendous truth.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Thank you, hymcre and please pay my respects to your father.
Speaker 6 (25:02):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
Never quite pictured that, ridd You know.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Now he did not do the day the crowd, Prince
MBS didn't.
Speaker 8 (25:16):
If MBS would have done the Trump dance, that would
have been amazing.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
I had to see it up down and what.
Speaker 8 (25:27):
A contrast the intro they played God Bless the USA
by Lee Greenwood.
Speaker 6 (25:32):
The Saudis, including the Crown Prince, were all standing.
Speaker 8 (25:34):
I mean, Dan, just envision the contrast of the respects
shown to Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Dan.
Speaker 8 (25:40):
They wheeled in immobile McDonald's truck for Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
And with Biden MBS, didn't meet him on the tarmac,
didn't shake his hand, gave him the fist bump, you know,
sent a secretary out to you. Yeah, obviously right. And
it is peace through strength. It's peace and the fascinating
thing to watch is and no honest person could deny this.
Trump is sharper than ever mentally, He's just sharper than
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ever mentally. I really do think that you can't even
call it a well, I guess it's a very very
very very near death experience in that Butler field. It
crystallized something. So lots to talk about this afternoon. We'll
get you some more of that sound because it is.
It is so fascinating. Was it was a major moment
in the presidency, not just another speech on the road somewhere,
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but one thing I want to interject into the conversation
and kick it around as we cover other topics.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
And I do want to get to.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
This trial of Sean Combs that's going on.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Out in la as well, but locally locally, and we're
not a sports show. We talk about a lot during
the breaks, and we're stunningly accurate, especially for not being
a sports show. But that aside, there are some things
that transcend sports, and this business with the Colorado Rockies now,
which has become a national story. Wall Street Journal did
a big piece the other day because I mean, honestly, Ryan,
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they could take Kelly, you, me, and let's grab six
random people out of the newsroom.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
It would be hard.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
For us to do worse than the Rockies current record
of seven and thirty four, right, But it does focus
the attention, I think, on this broader issue of when
it comes to sports ownership, and I don't just limit
this to the Rockies. When it comes to sports ownership,
is it a public trust the way I view it?
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Or you know, should it just be viewed as hey,
another business and as long as it's turning over cash
for the owner, etc. It can't fault to them if
they just hold on to it. To me, it seems
so obvious that it's a public trust, no matter what
the team, no matter what the place because it's not
like every other business or service, you know, it's something
that extends deep into the history and tradition of that
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city in many cases of that state. And it also
almost everywhere playing a facility that tags bearers are paid for.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
So and I apply that.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
To the Rockies as well.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
I do view it as a public trust, and I
do think because there's only one that can deliver it
for you, right, I mean, in this example, the Rockies,
it could be any sports team. You can't say I
don't like what that ownership group is doing. So instead
of watching the Colorado Rockies this weekend, I'm going to
go go watch you know, the Colorado Zombies.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
You can't do that. There's only one and so to me,
there's only one, and there's.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Only one lifetime that we all have, right, and there's
only one very short period when kids are young, And
so I think there is a public trust involved in
doing everything reasonably possible to make sure that those kids,
you know, during that brief amount of time when they're young,
that they have the chance to experience, you know, a
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pennant race or a highly competitive team. In this example, baseball,
there's a special excitement that goes with that, and I
remember our kids were blessed with that when they were young, and.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
I can remember the kids out back.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
We still have the paint I think on the driveway,
you know, painting brooms purple because the Rockies we're going
to sweep a playoff series.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
I think it was against was it Arizona?
Speaker 1 (29:15):
But in any case, you know, just those kind of
memories and days, and there's no guarantee you're going to
get that, even if ownership is doing everything he can
to win. But I think that public trust piece. I
think that a community is entitled to at least that
that realistic possibility, and so I do believe that the
ownership of these sports teams should be viewed as more
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of a public trust.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
And I would love to get your take on that.
Three or three someone three eight.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Two, five, five takes d an five seven, seven, three nine.
Speaker 6 (29:53):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 9 (29:56):
All rumors and innuendos, all of those are on the table.
It's doing a hell of a good job here. I
give him one hundred out of one hundred, but we're
not finished yet. And by the way, if you want
the index of the market, we have recovered everything since
April third.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
And then some so listen, keep going. But China is
a special situation.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
When we get that deal done.
Speaker 9 (30:20):
It'll become the hallmark for all the other countries. And
I think where we're going is a ten and ten
reciprocal on everybody.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Call it a vat tax.
Speaker 9 (30:29):
That's really what's going on here, consumption tax in America.
But you can't sell that to Congress, so you'd call
it a tariff.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Kevin O'Leary a very optimistic, confident and positive about the
initial deal to ninety day deal that was done over
the weekend.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Gordon Chang, who strongly supports.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
The President in his approach to China in many different ways,
joined us to start the show. You can pull that
off the podcast, and he thought that at this point
that China had walked away with what it wanted from
that deal, but he thinks the president's positioning for the future.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Hey, we got a lot of different things going.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
We played some hot sound from Saudi Arabia today, the
President appearing there, and some really bold foreign policy.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
I think it's very clear this.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Is and we need a nifty name for it, Ryan,
but this is the Trump doctrine going forward in the
mid East, and we heard today the Trump doctrine in full.
I expect it's going to be very well received in
the US. But we will see a cornerstone of that
is Trump saying that he wants to let God do
the judging when it comes to people's behavior, and he
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just wants to protect America's interests.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
So we'll get back to that hot take.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Sound in a second.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
We've thrown in some discussion of the Colorado Rockies as
part of a broader conversation of Wait a second, is
sports team ownership not legally I'm not talking about that.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
I'm talking about the right and wrong piece.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Is that really a public trust and it should be
treated as such because obviously the Rockies at this point,
it's just a tremendous disadvantage to kids who only have
that short window where their kids and that opportunity to
go out and you know, see you winning baseball team
and be in the hunt every year and all that
good stuff. Jack in Cheyenne, you're on the dan Kaplas show.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Welcome.
Speaker 10 (32:14):
And that's an interesting subject. In the early fifties, are
parents my dad who take the other dads in the
neighborhood would always take us to the Yankee Stadium where
the Yankees would play against the underdogs, the Brooklyn Dodgers,
And then they went and all of a sudden they
were in Los Angeles, and he felt like we were
cheated on. Back then, it was very upsetting, but in
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a legal sense, I don't think there's a violation of it.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
No, I'm.
Speaker 10 (32:40):
I mean we missed, we missed the buck Dodgers. When
they left, we felt like we were abandoned.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Yeah, And then you get to this kind of related
issue of when a team is just completely non competitive
and you have no chance to win.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Now, I say that as a guy. My dad hardest
working man ever.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
You know, he'd get off he'd work four to twelve
Chicago Police to get up in the morning. We'd be
out at Wrigley Field at seven in the morning, waiting
in line for the bleacher seats. And I don't know
that the Cubs won a game the entire time we
ever went. You know, they actually did. They got hot
in sixty nine for a while before they broke everybody's hearts.
But you know, it was a family news together, family togetherness.
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So I think an argument can be made that you
can still have those great experiences.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
In bond even if the team is.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Completely non competitive. I just think that that in this
day and age, when you've got gazillionaires lined up from
here to the Jack Shay estate in Cheyenne, right, and
there are gazillionaires lined up to buy this team, I
just think that the public trust should tip it toward, Hey,
you're competing with the Dodgers, you're competing with San Francisco,
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et cetera. You're gonna have to spend a gazillion each
year to compete. I think it should lean toward letting
one of those ownership groups that doesn't care if they
lose money own the team.
Speaker 10 (33:57):
What do you think, Jack, I identify with what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
It's an emotional sub Oh yeah no.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
And I've never thank you, Jack. I've never suggested at
all any kind of legal issue.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
I'm the first guy to say it is an absolutely
wonderful experience to go out to course field, no matter
how bad the team is. Train and we still have
our season tickets and they are not free, but we
love them, our staff loves them, our clients love them.
Maybe it's a great place to go and spend a
summer evening if you had competitive baseball.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
You remember those days, Ryan, There's there's nothing like it.
Speaker 6 (34:32):
Oh seven, and Clint hurdles back, you know it was
bench coach. He's part of the mix there. But I
got a very important question for you.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Doing that team back.
Speaker 6 (34:40):
You're a Southsider, Yeah, like the pulpe.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
Yeah, he's a White Sox fan.
Speaker 6 (34:44):
Why what are you doing going to.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
We're both My dad worked for to twelve and Socks
always played at night and Cubs played during the day.
Speaker 6 (34:50):
But true, okay, he talked us to both.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
I mean we probably went to probably sixty percent cub
We went to a lot of games, sixty percent Cubs,
forty percent Sock.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
But it's not like the Socks where ever winning.
Speaker 6 (35:03):
No, the go go Socks.
Speaker 8 (35:04):
But you remember the black Cat curse nineteen sixty nine,
you were a young guy.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
Oh, my dad was at the Billy Goat game. Yeah, right,
the Cups, the Billy Goat game.
Speaker 6 (35:11):
Right, there's the other one, the Billy Goat curse. All
kinds of curses broken in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Yeah, are those.
Speaker 6 (35:16):
Some of your fondest memories? They'll go into a ball game.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
As your dad, Well, I think everybody listening to the show, right,
Oh yeah, yeah, I think. And whether it was a
baseball game, a football game, yeah, I can't remember it
being with my dad and the bleachers at Wrigley Field
watching Gal Sayers run. I mean yeah, but those memories, right,
because you're stepping out of everyday life and you just
have that time together and yeah, there's just something so
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special about it. And that's why you know, our kids
had the thrill of that run the Rockies head back
in their World season. I just want the kids. I
want the kids in
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Colorado and the surrounding area to have that thrill
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be interesting to see if you agree or disagree with
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the foreign policy pronouncements, but bold leadership to say the least.
Speaking of bold, let's go to the VIP line and
welcome Gordon G.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Chang.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
That's how you follow him on acts at Gordon G.
Chang and he is author of Plan Red, China's project
to destroy America, the coming collapse of China and China
is going to war, so the perfect guy to talk
to you about who's winning this trade war between the
US and China, particularly after at least the framework of
a deal over the weekend. Gordon, Welcome to the Dan
(00:54):
Capla Show.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Well, thank you so much, Dan, Well grateful for your time.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
So let's start with that. Who's winning the trade war
right now between the US and China.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
We don't know, first of all, on the trade arrangements
that were announced on Monday. The Chinese clearly got the
better of the deal. Now, a lot of people are
saying that Trump gaved in. I don't think so. I
think Trump purposefully let the Chinese off the hook because,
as the President said on Monday, his tariffs were causing
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factories to close in China and a lot of distress,
and he didn't want to see that. And by implication,
he said he wanted to have a good relationship in
order to have a great deal that would benefit both
the Chinese and American publics. So I think Trump purposefully
gave the Chinese a lot of what they needed to
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get through the next three months. Now, this was a
big concession because during the next three months, these Chinese
factories are going to be shipping for Christmas. So we'll
see if the Chinese reciprocate.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
And then what do you think the President's move will
be If they don't.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I would love to know, because it is unlikely after
the end of three months that the Chinese will agree
to what President Trump has said. That is a total
reset of the relationship in China opening up its economy
to American goods. We've wanted that for centuries. We thought
we got it in two thousand and one when China
joined the World Trade Organization. The Chinese have violated their commitments,
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and China's violated It's one trade deal with President Trump.
That was the one in January twenty twenty, the so
called Phase one trade deal. So we're going against a
lot of history here. But if anybody can do it,
president Trump can. But this is obviously critical. And at
the end of the ninety days, if the Chinese don't
come to terms, and I hope that President Trump actually
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hits them with tariffs, if he doesn't do it, then
I'm very concerned that what looks like a temporary arrangement
is becoming perm.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
And what did President Trump give China in this temporary arrangement.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
What he did was he took off the remedies that
we have for China's intellectual property theft as well as
for its predatory trade practices, and that is one hundred
and forty five percent tariffs. Now, the Chinese also dropped
their tariffs, but the mutual arrangement helps China's exporters much
more than ours, because it was our tariffs that were
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preventing the Chinese from selling to American consumers. But it
wasn't the Chinese tariffs that are preventing Americans from selling
to China. What's preventing us from selling to China are
the non tariff barriers, and those remain in place during
this for ninety day period.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Gordon Chang our guest, Gordon g Chang at Gordon g
Chang and X. Now, how much of this do you
think was driven You mentioned the pipeline and upcoming I mean,
it's weird, isn't it to talk about the upcoming Christmas season?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
But how much of this was driven by needing.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
To make sure there are stocked shelves in America come
the holiday season and prices under control.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Yeah, those are the two things that people have talked
about as the reasons why Trump paid. One of them
is empty shelves and the other's inflation. I think Trump
was probably more influenced by the shelves argument because he
had the retailers over, he talked to them, and apparently
they convinced him that they were going to be shortages.
But I don't think he was really concerned about inflation.
(04:27):
And in fact, we saw the inflation number one yesterday,
which was below expectations, which shows that Trump's policies economic
policies are working, which shows that the fears that people
have on the East Coast, you know, New York and Washington,
that probably just sort of exaggerated. So I'm not sure
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that Trump was really moved by all of that. But
I think he was more concerned because we heard what
he said from the White House yesterday, you know, I
think he was more concerned about coming to a deal.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Did President Trump get any significant concessions as part of
this deal, anything significant on fentanyl.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
For example, I don't think so. I'm sure the Chinese
will say something. I'm sure it'll sound significant. Yeah, but
let's remember the campaign has made a promise on fatanyl
to President Biden in twenty twenty three, to President Trump
in twenty eighteen, and to President Obama in twenty sixteen,
(05:30):
and the fatanyel problem has only gotten worse. Right, So yes,
they'll talk a lot about it, but no, I don't
think we're going to see any real progress.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
So bringing us back to, you know, the starting point,
what is what is a Communist Party of China's long
term mission?
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Here?
Speaker 1 (05:46):
It sounds like it remains unchanged, and long term mission
is to undermine the United States continue the chemical weapons
attack in the form of fentanyl and to surpass the
US as the world's global superpower.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Is that fair?
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Yeah? And I don't have any problem with any country
that wants to surpass ups. Every country should want to
be number one. Well, we got a problem with our
China's tactics. First of all, they want to take down
the international system and replace it with worldwide Chinese rule.
And they're actually killing Americans with fentanyl, had with COVID.
So I have a problem with what they're doing, not
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what they're trying to do.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Great point again, Non Gordon, chang our guests.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
So in our last minute, Gordon, if you are sitting
down with the President right now and President was going
to do whatever you wanted him to do with regard
to China.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
What would that be.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
I would say to him that he needs to have
a candid talk with the American people because Si Jumping
is preparing to go to war, and I say to him,
we need to get our factories out of China. And
the other thing I'd say is he's having a great
job in the Middle East. Today was a fantastic day
for America. Why do you say that, because first of all,
he is recreating his accomplishments of the first term with
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getting together a great relationship with Saudi Arabia. He's giving
Syria a chance to move out of terrorism and the
horrific regime of Assad with their new president who wants
to make Syria look like America, with American business. I
think that's a terrific approach. And so therefore let's give
the guy in Syria a chance.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
And Gordon, what would you say to the folks who say, well,
wait a second, what about the human rights abuses in
Saudi Arabia, Syria, etc.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
You know what President Trump said, and that is that
it's not our job to police human rights and give
them our sense of what should be done, except in
extreme circumstances, where you have in China genocide that does
rise to the level of international concern. But Saudi Arabia
is moving in the right direction on all fronts. And
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in Syria you have a new government which is led
by now led by a former militant, but a guy
who really wants to bring Syria in from the cult.
So these are good things. We're looking at the general direction.
And by the way, when we focus on the murder
of one individual, Jamal Kashogi by the Saudis in twenty eighteen.
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We basically opened up the Middle East to Chinese and
Russian and Iranian influence in a way that that led
to many more deaths.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
And let me ask you, is Syria the treatment of Christians?
I mean, I think we've recently seen mass slaughter or
large scale killing, torture, etc.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Is that getting better?
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Do you expect at this point that to stop? Or
is that going to be an ongoing persecution in Syria?
Speaker 3 (08:46):
President Shara has talked about religious freedom, about guaranteeing those
lives of Christians and Jews and Drews in his country
religious minorities, all three of them, and I believe that
he is serious about it. We will find out he
has a terrible time trying to exert his governance throughout
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all of Assyria because he's now got Turkey trying to
break it apart, and all sorts of things in Iran,
with all sorts of mision making. But I do believe
that he does understand that religious freedom is an essential
part of his remaking Syria in an image that the
world will accept.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
My last question, toughest one, which of your books is
your favorite, plain red China's project to destroy America, the
coming collapse of China or China is going to war.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
My favorite is what I write on Twitter every day because.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
It is up to date.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
Okay, great answer. Hey, Gordon, appreciate the time.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Thank you well, thank you so much. I appreciate the time.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
You take care of That is Gordon g Chang. Check
him out on X Hey when we come back. A
smoking hot sound from the President in the Mid East.
You heard Gordon referring to that A second to go
certainly bold, certainly bold, new public foreign policy approach and
just as always at the president, fascinating and funny.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
You're on the Dan Capla Show.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
A deal with Iran. If I can make a deal
with Iran, I'll be very happy.
Speaker 7 (10:28):
If we're going to make your region and the world's
a safer place. But if Iran's leadership rejects this solid
branch and continues to attack their neighbors, then we will
have no choice but to inflict massive maximum pressure drive
Iranian oil exports.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
To zero like I did before. You know that they
were a.
Speaker 7 (10:51):
Virtually bankrupt country because of what I did. They had
no money for terror, they had no money for Hamas
or Hezbola, and take all action required to stop the
regime from ever having a nuclear weapon.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
Iran will never have a nuclear weapon.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Piece through strength.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Really some compelling sound out of Saudi Arabia today and
some amazing images as well. Three H three someone three
eight two five five of the number text d A
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on anything that interests you at all. We love variety
here textures as well. Dan excellent interview with Gordon Chang.
Just wish it lasted longer, Thank you. Yeah, I'd love
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to have Gordon Chang as a regular Can we arrange that, guys?
Speaker 8 (11:37):
Oh yeah, we always on good terms with the person
that matters most Lydia Chang, Orgon's wife.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Hmmm.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
I was going to ask if there's any relation, but yeah,
get our regular dose of vitamin g ah. So yeah,
we'll see where it goes from there. And again, now
you know, Gordon Chang very supportive of President Trump, but
just thinks that China gained a lot in this deal
over the weekend and the US did not. But Gordon
(12:04):
optimistic that long term Trump has a plan there, so
we will find out together. Markets are liking what's happening now,
and I think again it's all consistent with the point
that this never was about Trump instituting very large tariffs
to play out over the next five to ten years,
et cetera. It was about getting negotiating leverage to try
(12:25):
to level the playing field significantly more than it is
right now. Gordon's saying that hasn't worked with China yet,
and we'll see where that goes. Three or three someone
three eight, two five five the number. Let's go back
to the Mid East for a second, because some very
compelling stuff from the President's to president today. Let me
give you a taste of that and picture of the setting. Okay,
(12:47):
you're in Saudi Arabia. Picture this, you know, very ornate,
high tech room. I assume it was a modified ballroom,
you know, with the with the cutting edge technology and
electronic screens. You have a version of the American flag
and then the Saudi flag as well that the crown
prints you know, downfront and center, and the President addressing
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obviously Saudi Arabia, but the entire Mid East. And I'll
play a few of these back to back before our eyes.
Speaker 7 (13:15):
A new generation of leaders is transcending the ancient conflicts
of tired divisions of the past and forging a future
where the Middle East is defined by commerce not chaos,
where it exports technology not terrorism, and where people of
different nations, religions, and creeds are building cities together, not
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bombing each other out of existence.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
We don't want that.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
And you know, it seems to be a fair amount
of truth and what the President's saying. Obviously you still
have support for terrorism in certain of these countries in
the mid East, etc. But there does appear to be
very tangible progress, and.
Speaker 7 (13:54):
It's crucial for the wider world to note this great
transformation has not come from Western intervention noless or flying
people and beautiful planes giving you lectures on how to
live and how to govern your own affairs. Now, the
leaming marvels of Riad and Abu Dhabi were not created
(14:16):
by the so called nation builders, neocons or liberal nonprofits
like those who spent trillions and trillions of dollars failing
to develop Kabal Baghdad so many other cities.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Yeah, boy, powerful point, powerful point made by the president there,
And what do you believe his endgame is here.
Speaker 7 (14:41):
Instead, the birth of a modern Middle East has been
brought by the people of the region themselves, the people
that are right here, the people that have lived here
all their lives, developing your own sovereign countries, pursuing your
own unique visions and charting your own destinies and your
own way.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
It's really incredible what you've done.
Speaker 7 (15:03):
In the end, the so called nation builders wrecked far
more nations than they built, and the interventionalists were intervening
in complex societies that they did not even understand themselves.
They told you how to do it, but they had
no idea how to do it themselves. Peace, prosperity, and
progress ultimately came not from a radical rejection of your heritage,
(15:28):
but rather from embracing your national traditions and embracing that
same heritage that you love so dearly.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
And obviously the comments very well received in Saudi Arabian
and I'm sure across the Mid East. And again, where
do you think ultimately the president wants to take all
of this.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
I mean it starts with peace.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Right Obviously, there's a big prosperity piece because there were
many high dollar investment deals announced as part of today,
and I'm sure there will be each and everyday investment
deals in the US.
Speaker 7 (16:00):
Yet I'm here today not merely to condemn the past
chaos of Iran's leaders, but to offer them a new path,
and a much better path, toward a far better.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
And more hopeful future.
Speaker 7 (16:12):
As I've shown repeatedly, I am willing to end past
conflicts and forge new partnerships for a better and more
stable world, even of our differences may be very profound,
which obviously they are in the case of Iran. I
have never believed in having permanent enemies.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
I am different than a lot of people think.
Speaker 7 (16:33):
I don't like permanent enemies, but sometimes you need enemies
to do the job, and you have to do it right.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
Enemies get you motivated.
Speaker 7 (16:42):
In fact, some of the closest friends of the United
States of America nations we fought wars against in generations pasts,
and now they're our friends and our allies.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
See.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
I think this is an absolutely brilliant part of the
overall plant right, which is to isolate the Ranian leadership,
come to the Mid East and say, hey, wait a second,
you know we want to work together, make everybody prosper.
All the comments you just heard about all of these
peaceful and prosperous alternatives to to terrorism, bombing, et cetera.
(17:16):
But but everybody's got to get together. Everybody's got to
get together and help me do what has to be
done with Iran because they cannot have a nuclear weapon.
So I think that's a you know, he's got his
priority straight right. You cannot let Aron get a nuclear weapon.
And then we'll get into some more of the specific
(17:38):
comments about Iran and then some of the wildest sound.
I mean, I talk about symbolism closing the comments today
with YMCA in the heart of Saudi Arabia, you.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Have a tremendous future. Thank you very much, and please
pay my respects to your father.
Speaker 5 (17:55):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
I can.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
I thought that was dubbed over at first.
Speaker 6 (18:07):
The Saudi seemed to be enjoying it too.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
I thought, he's up there on stage at the Goohn friends,
YMC is played only President Trump. So I want to
get your reaction to all that. We'll have some more
of that hot take sound out of there. A lot
more we need to talk about today, and I do
want to address a topic that transcends sports, and it's
you know, Colorado Rockies have become a national story right now,
(18:35):
obviously because of the extent of the losing, but I
think it gives rise to a really important issue and
even bigger issue that I want to a bound Sophia.
I'm anxious to get your take on, you know, because
my view of things is that that ownership of a
professional sports team, no matter what the team is, is
part of a public trust and not just a business operation.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
You're on the Dan Kapla shelf.
Speaker 6 (19:04):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 7 (19:08):
Believe it is God's job to sit in judgment, my
job to defend America and to promote the fundamental interest
of stability, prosperity, and peace.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
That's what I really want to do.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Yeah, very very bold foreign policy announced today by President
Trump in the Mid East, And as we were talking
about in the last segment, we'll get you some more
of this really compelling sound. You know, the overall framework
makes perfect sense, right, which is, Hey, what is the
biggest threat right now? What is the biggest threat right
now to world peace? What is the biggest threat right
(19:42):
now to America? It's a nuclear Iran. And so I
think President Trump very focused on, you know, isolating Iran
within the Mid East as well. And can you just
imagine can you imagine a world, a world with the
evil Iranian regime overthrown and the people of Iran liberated,
(20:04):
right because they've been hostages too for how many years now, right,
I remember being an Airbeck and you weren't born then yet,
right like two thousand and nine or so, the people
of Iran in the streets crying Obama, save us, Obama
save us, and he turned his back on the people
of Iran. And so this type of approach from President
Trump to isolate that evil Iranian leadership. Yeah, let's hope
(20:27):
that that works, because wow, how great that would be
for the people of Iran. But certainly the people of
our great Ali Israel, the entire Mid East America itself.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
And I know that's a lot to say.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
The greatest threat in the world right now is a
nuclear Iran. When we're looking at some true demons, like
right out of health demons when you talk about putin right,
Kim Jong un, etc. Ji, though he looks more Panda like,
is clearly Communist Party of China evil, but Iran and
Iran getting a nuclear weapon when they've made it very
(20:58):
clear what they do with it. Yeah, I think is
right to be very focused on that, but very compelling
stuff today in the Mid East. Anxious to get your
take on the underlying policy. You just earned a big
part of it there, which is that it's not America's
job to judge. And you know, he's referring to some
pretty serious stuff there, right. I mean, you're you're talking
(21:18):
about a country in Saudi Arabia that's doing a lot
of good things, but still doing a lot of things,
you know, cutting people's heads off and treatment of women,
et cetera. And then of course as you move throughout
the Mid East. But I think there's going to be
an awful lot of support in America, you know, for
that pronunciation from President Trump, but would like to get
your reaction to it.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Three or three someone three eight.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Two five five texts d A N five seven seven,
three nine, and a couple of texts on that. Dan
feels like Trump is trying to implement his long term legacy,
no question about I don't think there's any question that. Certainly,
since the time he was saved in that Butler field,
my personal belief I know from reading it's as well,
(22:01):
but he in America to a very significant extent, saved,
you know, in that Butler field, I think President Trump
has been laser focused on making the most of every
second and of leaving that long term legacy, even if
it means short term pain for him. Right because this
tariff play, I mean, he was cruising. He could have
done the sugar high thing for four years, left even
(22:22):
more dead for people down the road, but he did
something that was going to be painful for him short
term because he believes it's best for the US long term.
And so no, I think you're absolutely right about that.
But a big part of that is going to be, okay,
who his successor is, because as many great things as
he's accomplishing and can accomplish during this four year term,
(22:43):
we know what happens after the midterms, right, certainly not
in his commander in chief role, but in other respects.
Attention then turns to his successor, to the twenty eighth cycle.
And so for Trump's legacy to truly be cemented, because
so much of this right now is e os. Right,
these these executive orders he's going to have, he's going
to have to have at least one hopefully two successors
(23:07):
totally you know, same approach. Another sixteen years after these
four is probably what it's going to take to really
cement it. And that would include the courts, that would
include policy, that would include you know, getting Republican majorities
that could take a lot of this great EO stuff
and turn it into legislation. So that's where you start
(23:27):
to get to the successor issue. And that's one of
the cool things for the GOP right is just the
enormous amount of talent on that bench. And then you
compare it to the Democrats. But even if the Democrats
had a healthy bench and right now they've just got
like rotted wood legs on that bench, it's nothing. You
know that the GOP an abundance of riches. But you know,
(23:50):
is it going to be Jadvans, Is it going to
be Marco Rubio? Is it going to be one of
a number of other really talented folks. So a lot
to be excited about. There no guarantees, but a lot
to be excited about. Alexa says, how amazing as dj
t ben the last few days he has accomplished.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Multiple incredible feats. So alexis fired up.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Guys and Hey, the guy is certainly off to the
fastest start of any president in our lifetimes, right. Can
anybody think of somebody who had a quicker jump start?
Speaker 6 (24:21):
Here?
Speaker 1 (24:21):
And I just keep coming back to did he really
end the speech in Saudi Arabia? Obviously this Saudis knew
this was coming. I assume they're controlling the audio system there.
But ending with Ymca Ryan, when you first heard.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
That, did you think that had been dubbed?
Speaker 8 (24:40):
I wasn't sure because the audio quality, like you said,
it was very good. I think they just kind of
took that channel. They went off of the Trump Mike
fee and it was.
Speaker 6 (24:49):
What was going on?
Speaker 8 (24:49):
No, I confirmed it and the Crown Friends goes up there,
looks like he's having a good time, shakes President Trump's hand.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
Multiple sources and have a momendous truth.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Thank you, hymcre and please pay my respects to your father.
Speaker 6 (25:02):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
Never quite pictured that, ridd You know.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Now he did not do the day the crowd, Prince
MBS didn't.
Speaker 8 (25:16):
If MBS would have done the Trump dance, that would
have been amazing.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
I had to see it up down and what.
Speaker 8 (25:27):
A contrast the intro they played God Bless the USA
by Lee Greenwood.
Speaker 6 (25:32):
The Saudis, including the Crown Prince, were all standing.
Speaker 8 (25:34):
I mean, Dan, just envision the contrast of the respects
shown to Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Dan.
Speaker 8 (25:40):
They wheeled in immobile McDonald's truck for Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
And with Biden MBS, didn't meet him on the tarmac,
didn't shake his hand, gave him the fist bump, you know,
sent a secretary out to you. Yeah, obviously right. And
it is peace through strength. It's peace and the fascinating
thing to watch is and no honest person could deny this.
Trump is sharper than ever mentally, He's just sharper than
(26:06):
ever mentally. I really do think that you can't even
call it a well, I guess it's a very very
very very near death experience in that Butler field. It
crystallized something. So lots to talk about this afternoon. We'll
get you some more of that sound because it is.
It is so fascinating. Was it was a major moment
in the presidency, not just another speech on the road somewhere,
(26:29):
but one thing I want to interject into the conversation
and kick it around as we cover other topics.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
And I do want to get to.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
This trial of Sean Combs that's going on.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Out in la as well, but locally locally, and we're
not a sports show. We talk about a lot during
the breaks, and we're stunningly accurate, especially for not being
a sports show. But that aside, there are some things
that transcend sports, and this business with the Colorado Rockies now,
which has become a national story. Wall Street Journal did
a big piece the other day because I mean, honestly, Ryan,
(27:04):
they could take Kelly, you, me, and let's grab six
random people out of the newsroom.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
It would be hard.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
For us to do worse than the Rockies current record
of seven and thirty four, right, But it does focus
the attention, I think, on this broader issue of when
it comes to sports ownership, and I don't just limit
this to the Rockies. When it comes to sports ownership,
is it a public trust the way I view it?
(27:30):
Or you know, should it just be viewed as hey,
another business and as long as it's turning over cash
for the owner, etc. It can't fault to them if
they just hold on to it. To me, it seems
so obvious that it's a public trust, no matter what
the team, no matter what the place because it's not
like every other business or service, you know, it's something
that extends deep into the history and tradition of that
(27:53):
city in many cases of that state. And it also
almost everywhere playing a facility that tags bearers are paid for.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
So and I apply that.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
To the Rockies as well.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
I do view it as a public trust, and I
do think because there's only one that can deliver it
for you, right, I mean, in this example, the Rockies,
it could be any sports team. You can't say I
don't like what that ownership group is doing. So instead
of watching the Colorado Rockies this weekend, I'm going to
go go watch you know, the Colorado Zombies.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
You can't do that. There's only one and so to me,
there's only one, and there's.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Only one lifetime that we all have, right, and there's
only one very short period when kids are young, And
so I think there is a public trust involved in
doing everything reasonably possible to make sure that those kids,
you know, during that brief amount of time when they're young,
that they have the chance to experience, you know, a
(28:53):
pennant race or a highly competitive team. In this example, baseball,
there's a special excitement that goes with that, and I
remember our kids were blessed with that when they were young, and.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
I can remember the kids out back.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
We still have the paint I think on the driveway,
you know, painting brooms purple because the Rockies we're going
to sweep a playoff series.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
I think it was against was it Arizona?
Speaker 1 (29:15):
But in any case, you know, just those kind of
memories and days, and there's no guarantee you're going to
get that, even if ownership is doing everything he can
to win. But I think that public trust piece. I
think that a community is entitled to at least that
that realistic possibility, and so I do believe that the
ownership of these sports teams should be viewed as more
(29:37):
of a public trust.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
And I would love to get your take on that.
Three or three someone three eight.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Two, five, five takes d an five seven, seven, three nine.
Speaker 6 (29:53):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 9 (29:56):
All rumors and innuendos, all of those are on the table.
It's doing a hell of a good job here. I
give him one hundred out of one hundred, but we're
not finished yet. And by the way, if you want
the index of the market, we have recovered everything since
April third.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
And then some so listen, keep going. But China is
a special situation.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
When we get that deal done.
Speaker 9 (30:20):
It'll become the hallmark for all the other countries. And
I think where we're going is a ten and ten
reciprocal on everybody.
Speaker 4 (30:27):
Call it a vat tax.
Speaker 9 (30:29):
That's really what's going on here, consumption tax in America.
But you can't sell that to Congress, so you'd call
it a tariff.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Kevin O'Leary a very optimistic, confident and positive about the
initial deal to ninety day deal that was done over
the weekend.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Gordon Chang, who strongly supports.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
The President in his approach to China in many different ways,
joined us to start the show. You can pull that
off the podcast, and he thought that at this point
that China had walked away with what it wanted from
that deal, but he thinks the president's positioning for the future.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Hey, we got a lot of different things going.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
We played some hot sound from Saudi Arabia today, the
President appearing there, and some really bold foreign policy.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
I think it's very clear this.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Is and we need a nifty name for it, Ryan,
but this is the Trump doctrine going forward in the
mid East, and we heard today the Trump doctrine in full.
I expect it's going to be very well received in
the US. But we will see a cornerstone of that
is Trump saying that he wants to let God do
the judging when it comes to people's behavior, and he
(31:33):
just wants to protect America's interests.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
So we'll get back to that hot take.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Sound in a second.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
We've thrown in some discussion of the Colorado Rockies as
part of a broader conversation of Wait a second, is
sports team ownership not legally I'm not talking about that.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
I'm talking about the right and wrong piece.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Is that really a public trust and it should be
treated as such because obviously the Rockies at this point,
it's just a tremendous disadvantage to kids who only have
that short window where their kids and that opportunity to
go out and you know, see you winning baseball team
and be in the hunt every year and all that
good stuff. Jack in Cheyenne, you're on the dan Kaplas show.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Welcome.
Speaker 10 (32:14):
And that's an interesting subject. In the early fifties, are
parents my dad who take the other dads in the
neighborhood would always take us to the Yankee Stadium where
the Yankees would play against the underdogs, the Brooklyn Dodgers,
And then they went and all of a sudden they
were in Los Angeles, and he felt like we were
cheated on. Back then, it was very upsetting, but in
(32:34):
a legal sense, I don't think there's a violation of it.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
No, I'm.
Speaker 10 (32:40):
I mean we missed, we missed the buck Dodgers. When
they left, we felt like we were abandoned.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Yeah, And then you get to this kind of related
issue of when a team is just completely non competitive
and you have no chance to win.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Now, I say that as a guy. My dad hardest
working man ever.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
You know, he'd get off he'd work four to twelve
Chicago Police to get up in the morning. We'd be
out at Wrigley Field at seven in the morning, waiting
in line for the bleacher seats. And I don't know
that the Cubs won a game the entire time we
ever went. You know, they actually did. They got hot
in sixty nine for a while before they broke everybody's hearts.
But you know, it was a family news together, family togetherness.
(33:17):
So I think an argument can be made that you
can still have those great experiences.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
In bond even if the team is.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Completely non competitive. I just think that that in this
day and age, when you've got gazillionaires lined up from
here to the Jack Shay estate in Cheyenne, right, and
there are gazillionaires lined up to buy this team, I
just think that the public trust should tip it toward, Hey,
you're competing with the Dodgers, you're competing with San Francisco,
(33:43):
et cetera. You're gonna have to spend a gazillion each
year to compete. I think it should lean toward letting
one of those ownership groups that doesn't care if they
lose money own the team.
Speaker 10 (33:57):
What do you think, Jack, I identify with what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
It's an emotional sub Oh yeah no.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
And I've never thank you, Jack. I've never suggested at
all any kind of legal issue.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
I'm the first guy to say it is an absolutely
wonderful experience to go out to course field, no matter
how bad the team is. Train and we still have
our season tickets and they are not free, but we
love them, our staff loves them, our clients love them.
Maybe it's a great place to go and spend a
summer evening if you had competitive baseball.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
You remember those days, Ryan, There's there's nothing like it.
Speaker 6 (34:32):
Oh seven, and Clint hurdles back, you know it was
bench coach. He's part of the mix there. But I
got a very important question for you.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Doing that team back.
Speaker 6 (34:40):
You're a Southsider, Yeah, like the pulpe.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
Yeah, he's a White Sox fan.
Speaker 6 (34:44):
Why what are you doing going to.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
We're both My dad worked for to twelve and Socks
always played at night and Cubs played during the day.
Speaker 6 (34:50):
But true, okay, he talked us to both.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
I mean we probably went to probably sixty percent cub
We went to a lot of games, sixty percent Cubs,
forty percent Sock.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
But it's not like the Socks where ever winning.
Speaker 6 (35:03):
No, the go go Socks.
Speaker 8 (35:04):
But you remember the black Cat curse nineteen sixty nine,
you were a young guy.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
Oh, my dad was at the Billy Goat game. Yeah, right,
the Cups, the Billy Goat game.
Speaker 6 (35:11):
Right, there's the other one, the Billy Goat curse. All
kinds of curses broken in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Yeah, are those.
Speaker 6 (35:16):
Some of your fondest memories? They'll go into a ball game.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
As your dad, Well, I think everybody listening to the show, right,
Oh yeah, yeah, I think. And whether it was a
baseball game, a football game, yeah, I can't remember it
being with my dad and the bleachers at Wrigley Field
watching Gal Sayers run. I mean yeah, but those memories, right,
because you're stepping out of everyday life and you just
have that time together and yeah, there's just something so
(35:40):
special about it. And that's why you know, our kids
had the thrill of that run the Rockies head back
in their World season. I just want the kids. I
want the kids in
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Colorado and the surrounding area to have that thrill
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