Heidi Ganahl returns from her European vacation just in time to fill in for Dan on Wednesday's show, discussing the short-term and long-term future of the Republican party in Colorado with state chair Brita Horn.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Dan Kapless and welcome to today's online podcast
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
Oh hello everyone, it's Heidi Ganol filling in for Dan Capless.
It's been a little while since I've been in been
busy traveling worldwide.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Ryan, I just got back last night.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
I traveled from Rome, so I'm a bit jet lagged.
If I see anything really silly, just smack me virtually
through the window.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Was it prestige worldwide? Like Stepbrothers?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
I what? I don't remember.
Speaker 5 (00:38):
I don't remember that towards the end, but they did
the music video and stuff.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
No prestige worldwide.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
It didn't feel like prestige because I sat economy between
my two kids who lay it.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
All over me for ten hours, eleven hours. Okay, we
had a great time.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
I'm not complaining.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
First world problems, right, right, right, but we had a
fantastic time. We spent the fourth of July. My husband
surprised us for Christmas, or I think one of the
holidays last year with a cruise we'd left out of
Rome and we went to Greece and Italy and spent
the fourth of July with you know, all people from
all over the world on the cruise ship. It was
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actually really fun. They made a huge deal out of it.
And I had my America sweater on.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
I was going to say that they wish America a
happy birthday.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
They did.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Everybody was super positive, cool, it was refreshing, and we
are Actually one of the stops was the stop was
what city did we stop?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Naples?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
And we decided to go to Capri, Italy, which is
this island, and we start walking around. It's super hot,
but it's beautiful, and all of a sudden, my husband goes, hey,
that was Bezos to just walk by us. I was
like what, And, believe it or not, Jeff Bezos and
his new bride right by with all their security.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
He's short, he's not very tall.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I don't mean to offend anyone, but I was kind
of surprised. I was like, wow, she has big hair.
Though the big hair bakes out for it.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Can I say something else?
Speaker 5 (02:03):
No, I did not see that's not already talks about
what right?
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Yeah, me, don't look at me no, but anyway.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
So of course I'm kind of a I get starstruck sometimes,
so I.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Went running after like, oh my gosh, I gotta get
a picture.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
I did not catch up with them, but we also
found out that Magic Johnson was on like this million
dollar one hundred and fifty million dollar yacht hanging out.
But it was just great fun exploring parts of the
world of my kids. We got to see the Colisseum,
and the most beautiful spot we saw was the the
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the Vatican, Saint Peter's chap It was amazing. You walk
in it, It's just like crazy cool, but so much history,
and it makes you realize how unimportant a lot of
the day to day bs stuff we talk about in
Calorida politics here is when you look at the history
of what happened in Rome two thousand years ago, You're
at the Colisseum, like, yeah, there was a little issue here,
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and you're thinking, wow, we've got we make such a
big deal about what's happening in the day to day
world of politics here in Colorado, and I get caught
up on that.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
But we are going to talk about that.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
We're having Britta Horn as a guest, who's the chair
of the Republican Party here in Colorado at four thirty
five after the break at four thirty. So I'm excited
to talk to Britta. Is there anything you want to specifically.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Ask her about.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
Oh, we did get a reply to your post on
X along these lines. This from Mike saying, quote, I'll
try to be nice here. Who advises the Colorado GOP
on media strategy? So far it's completely s four letter word.
Compare the Colorado gop X post with let's say Governor
of Colorado meaning Jared Polos. Of course, there is a
big difference in messaging just saying well.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Mike, I can answer that because I am one of
the volunteers on the Communications committee, and we just had
our first meeting about I don't know, two weeks ago,
and we are meeting again.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
I think it's tomorrow night.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
But everyone's kind of getting their assignments, figuring out which
team they're on. We've got a social media team that's
going to start ramping up. We have some really talented
people helping. I think Britta has got over forty five
volunteers now on the various committees that are just getting activated.
Because you know, it took a bit of time to
figure out where everything was, what the Loggins were. It
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took a little bit more time than it should have
because there's so much you know, history there.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
If I may on the history.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
Yeah. So under the leadership of our mutual friend, Christy
Burton Brown, and she was once the chair of the party, Yeah,
Colorado gop on, the ex formerly known as Twitter followed
yours truly then suddenly, and I could only imagine why
under the leadership of Dave Williams that was unfollowed.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
What of yours truly?
Speaker 5 (04:47):
So if you would be so kindest to suggest to
Britta that we could be mutual follows again, I.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Think that'll work. Okay, good cravies. What on earth does
Dave have against you?
Speaker 5 (04:57):
Well, I could tell you exactly what the next sust
of it was, and it was my strong support and
believe you share this.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
But I want to speak for you for the log
cabin Republicans, yes.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
And Valdemore Archiletta absolutely, and the entire email fiasco when
it came to God hates flags and we know what
that's referencing from the Westboro Baptist Church.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
You take out the l and there you go.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
And I was pretty strong in my admonition and criticism
of that, and lo and behold, it seemed to coincide
with the timing of what I just described.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Well, I'm with you, Ryan, that was ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Well, we're trying to build a big tent party, right
are we not?
Speaker 3 (05:32):
We are there, you go, we are.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
And Altimore does incredible work. He's one of our warriors.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Oh yeah, he's great.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
And I just I don't understand that take and that
whole situation that just like made me scratch my head, like,
you guys are off the rails, what are you doing here?
But I do think Brita is doing a good job
of trying to listen to a lot of competing factions
right now and figure out what is our strategy, what
is our messaging, how do we bring more people together
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on the Republicans side even so that we can actually
win elections again? And that when you ask Britta what
her mission statement is, it's very simple. It's win elections,
win elections. Can you imagine winning elections again?
Speaker 4 (06:11):
I can imagine it.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
I'd like to realize that dream though, and live it
out in real life.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Well, we're all working very hard.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
The various forty plus volunteers that are just getting going,
just getting committees formed. I'd like to say, and I
think Britta would repeat this, We're trying to be strategic,
not quick or rushed. And I get there's a sense
of urgency, but you also got to do things the
right way, and you got to build incredible teams with
good people who are all very busy and volunteering their
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time and give it a little bit time. I think
you're going to be impressed with what's going to happen.
And I you know, I just I love all the
people that are working on rebuilding this thing and turning
it around, and I just I.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Think it's going to be really cool soon. But I
don't know what.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Is there anything else you want to ask Brita or
concerns that you have Ryan or that you've heard from
other folks.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
I would encourage those in our audience to text those
questions to you at five seven, seven, three nine, or
to call them in.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
They can do that in the next segment as well.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
I think it just builds on what we were just
talking about, which is building that unified front avoiding the
circular firing squad. I mean, we've got a tough enough
on a road to ho here in battling against the
Democrats and elections and such, that we don't need to
be tearing each other down in apart. And I know
you've been not only out of town, you've been out
of the country. But a lot of what's going on
that I've been talking about on my show is sorting
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through these allegations against Representative Ron Weinberg. This is the
sort of thing that, put plain and simple, just helps
the opposition, helps the Democrats knowing that we're fighting amongst ourselves,
so to speak.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
I've I've heard a little bit about it. I've been
had a chance to dig in. But my goodness, if
we all spent the energy that we spend fighting each
other on the other side, fighting the Democrats, right, we
would do so well. And there's an article that I'm
going to ask Britta about that was in I think
it was Politico about the Colorado Way and how the
Democrats are approaching the divisiveness in their own party in
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Colorado and how they're trying to take what they did
here over the last two decades and you know, transport
it to other states across the country. And I learned
a lot from this article, and I think you will
too when we talk about it more with Britta. I'll
talk about a little bit about it after the break,
But it's basic blocking and tackling. But here's the key
message in this article. Jared Poles admits that he doesn't
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talk so much about the moral consequences of a policy
or the values tied to it. He talks about how
it affects their pocketbooks, how it affects voters pocketbooks.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
And that's been a strategy all along. And when you think.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
About the different things that they've gotten through, like he
talks about quote unquote free preschool and some of the
other things that they've offered to the public pair of dollars,
that that's been magical. It's made a big difference. It's
helped them turn the state around. So I would would
say that has to be a big part of our
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messaging around conservative policies in Colorado.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
And we win on all these arguments. We win.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Look what's happening with the economy right now, and look
at the success we're having with turning things around economically.
It's magical. And if we can message that correctly in Colorado,
then shebang, we start winning elections again. So I'm excited
to talk to Bretta. I'm excited to talk to all
of you after this break. This is Heidi Ganal filling
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in for Dan Kaplis, and I look forward to chatting
with you in just a few minutes.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
And now back to the Dan Kapless Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Hello, Hello, it's Wednesday afternoon. This is Heidi Ganal filling
in for Dan Caples with my friend Ryan Shulink. Ryan,
I heard you had quite a show earlier. My mom,
actually I was in a meeting, but she's.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Like to listen to Bryant Shoe right now.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Wow, Mama says, Oh my mom, Susie, she's on it.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
She listens to all of you.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
I appreciate her listening.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Yeah, you're one of her favorites.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
She's one of mine now for sure.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
She said, you had quite the feisty conversation going on
about this whole ron Oh my goodness, Weinberg thing.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Well, I was having a lot of messages fired at
me in real time.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
Natalie Tennant from One Angle and.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
She'll be a guest on my show tomorrow here in
Denver in the two o'clock hour. And then Brandy Bradley
was none too pleased with a statement that was issued
by House Leadership and Rose Puglici and Ty Winner about
the comments she made on My show yesterday regarding allegations
that she had against Ron Weinberg on the House floor
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in the General Assembly and how that was handled, or
to Brandy's point that she made with me, how it
wasn't handled well. House Leadership pushed back on that through
a statement. Under Bradley was not happy that it was
handled through a statement. And then Jacqueline Anderson, one of
the primary accusers of sexual harassment by Ron Weinberg, and
this was all happening actually in back to back years
at LPR in twenty one and twenty two in front
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of her husband no less both times. And her claim, Jacquelines,
is that Ron's wife Carolyn was right there and witnessed
both incidents. So this is kind of tip at the
Iceberg type stuff, but again happening in real time about
what happened and where, and to your mom's point, yeah,
that was that was kind of interesting to deal with
that kind of on a minute by minute basis.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
So what do you think should happen, Who should investigate this,
how should this be handled?
Speaker 3 (11:41):
What's your take.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Well, Ron Weinberg at some point has to make a
public comment. I think you know.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
I talked about that angle of it, kind of the
media pr standpoint, and how Michigan State University bungled the
entire Larry Nasser scandal, an investigation that most people in
our listening audience.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Probably remember there was someone else at Michigan State who
had a scandal like this too.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Who could that be?
Speaker 2 (12:02):
A football coach that was at CEU when I was a.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Regent, mel Tucker.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
Mel Tucker, by the way, I'm so glad you brought
that up. And I would say the same thing to
Dan and I have. You're welcome that we took him
that entire problem that he turned out to be off
of your hands. You're welcome, Heidi, and I'll see you
fans out, Oh my goodness. And then what did that
turn into prime time?
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Good prime it's almost football time?
Speaker 4 (12:29):
Imagine that butterfly effect.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
Though, go back in time and you could probably personally
account for this, as you were one of the regents
that I think at that time, around that time when
melt Tucker. This is as Dan tells it, and Dan
was madder than a wet hen I tell you he
doesn't swear around the air, but he was swearing off
the air. I'm like, WHOA never seen Dan? That's angry.
But mel Tucker spoke, I guess at a dinner that
night yep. And then on a midnight train to Georgia
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or a flight to East Lansing, took off from Michigan
State in the middle of it eye and took that
job right after saying I'm here to build a legacy.
I'm here to build a program at SeeU, telling all
the donors, all the alumni, all the borderach, am I wrong.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
No, you're not wrong. And I was a regent, But
did you witness that? What I just oh my goodness, wow,
crazy town.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
And before that, Mike McIntyre was the coach and he
got accused of not handling a situation. Well, and it happened,
it rolled into a whole Title nine investigations.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
Well there's an entire layer of I don't know if
it's irony or what. But Brenda Tracy was the accuser.
Now they had a little no no, no affair trust whatever.
He was married, not to her. I'm talking about melt
Tucker now. And then she came forward mind you, Brenda
Tracy travels the country going to these universities and professional
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teams counseling them in players about sexual harassment, violence and abuse.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
And she was involved in the previous Title nine investigation
as like I think a specialist or something that came
in to tell us all how it goes down. Oh man,
what a time to be a region that was intense.
I started in twenty seventeen January twenties.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Actually I started.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
The very first thing I did was go to the
Alamobile in late twenty sixteen.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
That was great fun.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
And then was there for all of COVID, for all
the cancel culture, for all.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
The DEI stuff. It was nuts. It was just nuts,
but man, it was.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
It was very interesting to be on the front lines
during that time in higher education. I got to see
where all the bodies are buried and how the sausage
is made.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
And it's not pretty. It's not pretty.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
But higher education is getting called to the carpet right
now and things are going to change a lot.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Did you see that, Linda McMahon.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
The Department of Education is and I'm not sure if
the DJ is involved in this yet, is going after
new and California.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Oh yeah, title nine.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Yeah, on title nine. It's fabulous to see somebody being.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Held to account because I'm feeling a little frustrated on
the whole Epstein thing.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
How are you feeling about that?
Speaker 5 (15:12):
We've dedicated a lot of air time, more than his
last two days about that, colle and I haven't been
shy about criticizing the Trump administration that suddenly there's nothing
to see here. Well, there is something to see here,
and most of ours us are not going to be
hoodwinked into believing otherwise. So yeah, that was frustrating. It
was nice Harmeat Dellan actually have that sound here somewhere
and can get that in a little bit. Announcing this
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lawsuit pursuing legal action against the state of California on
Title nine on the basis that biological males are participating
in girls' high school sports and this is the thing.
Gavin Newsom looked like he was kind of pendulum swinging
to the right on this issue, you know, talking about
with Charlie Kirk and I think Steve Bannon and doing
his own podcast, and I think trying to distance himself
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from the far left, Like no, it is an issue
of fairness and it's not fair. Yet they kept doing
it and he didn't do anything about it, didn't speak out.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
He's the governor of the state.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Gavin Newsom was not upfront about something or.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
Well, well, well you know where he was just at
the last twenty four hours, right South Carolina. Now, why
would he be in South Carolina? I wonder what is
South Carolina? Is that one of the first three primary
states in twenty twenty eighth for the presidential.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Ew did you see that Kamala is thinking about running
for governor of California? Yeah, I could not think there's
not a worse candidate than Gavin Newsom.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
Oh, she's sent for her. She's left for her without
hesitation or reservation. I say she's worse than he is.
And the thing is, the hardest obstacles you have to
overcome is winning the nomination for the Democrat Party. Because
she's gonna win if she gets that. And you know,
this is the problem that is Kamala Harris.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Think about it.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
She's never had to run a really competitive race until
she ran against Donald Trump and lost because she's been
in California. She was on attorney general there and then
was senator and just those.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Muscles were not flex.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
It wasn't like Heidi Ganall and the cauldron debating Jared Poulis,
you know what I mean, Like she never had to
encounter that kind of challenge from the opposite party. It
was just kind of rubber stamp in the state of California.
And look where that got them, and look where that
got her, and.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Look where that's getting us in Colorado.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Oh gosh, yes, Ryan, who do you think is kind
of coming out of the gate on the governor's race
in Colorado?
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Anybody do you see anybody kind Michael Bennett. No, I mean,
like on our.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
Side, Well, I think that was a good impression. Well,
it's it's him. I just channel him, you know.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
I think Greg Lopez has the most name recognition, and he,
of course ran against you in that primary way back when.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
And I've got to say I.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
Was a Hidi Ganal supporter from way back and I
help coax and talk and cajole Kelly Cachera. She voted
for Greg Lopez in the primary, and I'm like, you've
got to give Heidi a chance. And then but then
we met you, I think down there in Sedalia, and
when she met you in person.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
She goes, Okay, I like her.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
Oh, because Kelly for whatever she's predisposed, except for Alexa.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
Here is filling in for Kelly today.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Hey Alex, and we are not going to ask you
how you voted in the governor's race of twenty two.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Well, just she says you. She says you, yeah, thank you. Okay.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
All right, so no front runners yet.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
Like I said, Greg Lopus has the most name recognition,
but it's a wide open field.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
Yeah, all right.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Well, we are going to come back and talk to
Britta Horn and dig in to all the stuff around
the party.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
This is Heidi Ganaal filling in for Dan Capless. See
you after the break.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
You're listening to the Dan Caplis Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Well that's the perfect song to introduce our next guest.
This is Heidi Ganal filling in for Dan Caples. We've
got our favorite fire chief, Britta Horn, who's also the
chair of the Colorado Republican Party.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
On Britta, welcome to the show.
Speaker 6 (18:58):
Hey, hey, Heidi, welcome back back.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Welcome home, thank you, thank you. It's great to be back.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
And I'm getting a lot of questions just overall in
general about what's happening at the GOP and what's going.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
On, what are we doing, how are we going to
win elections?
Speaker 2 (19:15):
And I thought I know the perfect person to bring
on the show who can answer a lot of these questions.
So Britta, first of all, I talked earlier, I don't
know if you heard with Ryan about how we had
somebody asking about the media strategy and I was like, well,
I can answer that because I'm a volunteer on the
communications team and we are working very hard to get organized,
get things set up so that we can really rock
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and roll. But talk a little bit about your strategy
for rebooting this organization and what it looks like to
manage what forty to fifty volunteers to do just that
I appreciate.
Speaker 6 (19:49):
Thank you so much, and thanks for taking that call
because you are part of it. Sarah. Really right, we're
coming up on the one hundred day, you know, and
everybody remembers I did one hundred day plan, and you know,
we're checking all the boxes and we'll be putting that
out soon. But we're already, you know, we're finishing up
with that transition, you know, the transition that was the
trans transition that wasn't the things we had to, you know,
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show everybody member in the first thirty days, the first
sixty days, showing people what you know, what we found.
And then now you're absolutely right, it's time to move forward.
We have got to exactly I did hear you guys
earlier today when I jumped on at the top of
the hour, and you're right it is. You know, our
mission statement is two words, win elections exclamation plate and
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I say that everywhere because that's what we need to do.
The mission has to be that simple. So going forward,
You're absolutely right. So now we are working on that
organizational cachart and I appreciate you saying the forty fifty people,
but you know when I shared that with you, you
guys are you know we talk about all the different
committees that we put together. It's thirteen different committees. We
can talk about them. Yours is one of them, and
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then we also had the five coalitions, and then we're
going to be talking about the regional offices. And I'm
packing a lot. I'm just saying we've been doing this
and are fully functioning. That it's not only the fifty
of you leaders chairs of those committees. You have what
eight people under you right, eight seven eight people, and
the other committees have like four or five people under it.
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So we have over one hundred people working on this,
getting into that formation to move forward and how to
strategically do this and win elections in.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
What four hundred and eighty four days, Yeah, that's the midterms.
And I think for another critical thing that we had
to get through was.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Approval of the budget.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
So talk a little bit about the budget and what
it looks like fundraising wise, what your expectations are.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
You know, you've got to roll up.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Your sleeves and get donors engaged to provide resources to
do all this work too.
Speaker 6 (21:48):
Exactly, And so yes, you're right. We got the budget
passed and it is very aggressive and it's supposed to
be because where we had to go the first thirty
days of finding out where the waste of frog and
abuse was. We had to get that all cleaned up
and shut down costs that we didn't need to have
to start opening up the new ideas, and the new
ideas are different for Colorado. I know that as a
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you know, I worked for President Trump down in New
Mexico in twenty twenty as a regional field director. I
know the job. I know how it works in other states.
And we had to close down an office in Dever
that we didn't need anymore. That was wasted space, wasted time,
and we had to turn around and go out to
the people because all politics is local. So we're going
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out to the regional offices and we're going to be
in the four regions that are absolutely targeted and important
to the RNC and the White House that we retained three, four, five,
and eight. And so we already opened up but had
a soft opening down in Colorado Springs. Found a great place,
great location, great place for everybody'd be there. And we're
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going to start building this out as we get going,
starting with the school boards. It's going probably be folved,
but start getting people involved, and we're getting involved with staffing.
We have to have staffing. We have to have I
love the volunteers and they're all helping and they all
want to be a part of it, but staffing in
all four of those locations, maybe five. I always have
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my promise of maybe we'll get back to Denver, but
we're always got We have to have regional directors and
we have to have staff for them to knock on
doors to make the phone calls to build the community,
to get everybody engaged, get the young Republicans engaged, get
you know, opening up the tent, letting everybody in, getting
the independence back, having them, welcoming them back into the
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Republican Party. And that obviously takes money. And I'm making
all the calls for all the donors, and just yesterday
I had a ton of calls and they're actually saying
we're doing a great job. Keep it up. They're the
kind of calling me badass, and I'm going to take
it well.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
And fundraising is hard for whatever you're doing. But you've
got to have a vision, you've got to have a plan.
And Bert, one of the things we talked a little
bit about is your approach to building out this infrastructure
based on your experience as a chief.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
And I want you to talk a little bit about that.
Speaker 6 (24:07):
Oh you're so sweet. So yeah, this is what I've learned.
We've learned this in all the years and we're going
on emergencies, going on incidences. It's for any type. It's
a system. It's obviously military too, and you can call
fire paramilitary, I don't care. But we still use the
same infinite command system I see s and that's how
you build it out. And you have like a span
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of control is wing more between five and seven and
five is perfect life. You can't run more than five
things at once. And when I looked at all these committees,
not only those standing ones, which are about five of
them in the bi laws. Standing means the ones that
are you know, in the by laws and have certain responsibilities,
you have all these different ones at will, at hoc
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ones that you've got to have. So we had thirteen
actually even figured out in previous administrations of the GOP.
And one person can't men thirteen. So we broke it
down into three different groups. We have leaders of each,
you know, not only every one of those committees, but
then we even have an assistant to the chief for
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every one of those three groups, and then the information
goes to them, and then the information comes up to us,
which is the you know, unified command, those who are
elected and our executive director. And it works perfectly, and
it's working like a dream, and once everybody understands it
and gets it. But I know business people and entrepreneurs
use this as much as well.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Yeah, I agree, and I think I mean, we can
certainly as somebody on the Communications Committee and trying to
help lead that effort. Talk more about what we're up to,
what we're doing, But a lot of us have day
jobs too, or things other things.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
We're working on.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
So we just have to be more more committed to
doing that on a regular basis, and we will as
we get these committees ruling.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Britt One of the.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Things that I'm getting texts about right now is about
the lawsuit around unaffiliated voters, independent voevoters voting in the primaries.
Can you give us an update on what's happening with
the Claremont suit that Kevin Lamberg is leading and when
we'll know if that's going to be an effect for
twenty six or can it be so?
Speaker 6 (26:13):
Yeah, So we looked at it and we've been asking
and we're saying that it's still working on it. They're
working on the process. So you're right, the lawsuits still going.
It needs to go to the Supreme Court and we
just haven't gotten there yet. So they're doing all the
pieces to get there. But at this point when we
are just what is it now fifteen months out from
the election notes twelve thirteen parts, maybe eighteen months, we're
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going to have to in that four hundred plus days.
There's no way that's going to change how we're going
to do twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Okay, so twenty six is going to be the same.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
It's going to be unaffiliated voters getting two ballots and
picking one from the Democrat or Republican party and voting
in the primaries to elect the primary candidates for each
of those parties.
Speaker 6 (26:55):
Correct, exact, exactly. So that is what is important is
everybody knows that we are finally now taking a football
to the football game instead of trying to take a
football to a tennis match. We have to play the
game that we have in front of us.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Yep, I agree. Okay, So.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Twenty six we've got a lot of statewide races. We
have the governor's race, Attorney General, Secretary of state, treasurer.
We've got four congressional seats that are really really important.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
And I know you've spent a.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Lot of time talking to the RNC and the NRCC,
which is the Congressional National Committee, and the S and
r SC, the Senatorial Committee.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
What are you hearing from those guys?
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Are they going to play in Colorado, what's their priority
and how are they going to help you do your
job here, or vice versa.
Speaker 6 (27:41):
You help them debsolutely the same things from the NRC.
They're all on the RNC. Excuse me. They are all
going to make sure that we are playing with us,
on the ground with us and making sure this job
is getting done. So it'll be like you said, will
be funding helping make sure that we get all these offices,
get all the staff, and get moving moving forward and
make sure we hold the line and then win more
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elections because we still have quite event to do at
the State House and the State Senate too.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Yeah, I agree, and I think I keep talking about
how important these four congressional seats are to keeping the
House of Representatives in the hands of conservatives for President
Donald Trump so he can keep going with his agenda.
And we've got two really critical races in Congressional District III,
which is Jeff Hurd, who's freshman congressman from the Western
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Slope and Pueblo.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
And then we've.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Got CD eight, which is Gabe Evans, another freshman congressman
up in the North Metro Denver area.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Doing a very good job.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
They both just voted for the big beautiful bill and
in order to make sure that big beautiful Bill gets executed. Well,
we need to keep them in their seats, and I
think that has got to be a priority for twenty
twenty six, is focusing on those two races and making
sure that those guys get the help that they need.
How can people volunteer if they want to help? Can
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they just go to their county GOP or should they
go to the state GOP?
Speaker 3 (29:04):
How do people get engaged?
Speaker 6 (29:06):
I think whatever is uncomfortable for everybody. If they can't
find you know, go to their county obviously and say
I'm here to help. Well, how can we help You
can't find them on Facebook or their website or wherever
that is, then go to our website that CEO, l
O g OP dot O RG and there's a place
at the bottom, you know, asking questions. You know you
want to you know, help, how you want to help,
(29:28):
Just put any information in there. We will see it. Today.
We definitely are all you know, much more remote now,
which is fine because it's good for us to be
in all the different places and be where the pulse
is and be where all the events are, and we'll
see the information and we'll get you plugged in because
everyone has to figure out how they want to be
helped and how they want to help doing this. We
have so many people that like to do data so
much like to do technology. You know, our our audit group,
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we have a great group of people working on our
audit and they identified to go into the filos that
there were five different post points touch it's for the
audit to make sure we are being transparent and making
sure we're being financially responsible for the money that we
are getting in. And you know, some people want to
do that. So there's as a committee you want to
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be on if there's something you want to help in
your area. We definitely need to do the block and tackling.
We need to be knocking doors, making phone calls and
certainly right now doing it for twenty five. For school Board,
we're already helping out with school Board. I was listening.
I was last night in Larimer County at their county meeting.
It was an ice cream social owner. It was like
forty fifty people there and I was already watching you
(30:33):
know school boy Canada City council mayor candidates. You know
the vacancy that's going to be coming up for arm
A guest that's going on to Arizona, right and so,
like you know, it's just fun to see everybody here
to why so why what? Seventh eight yesterday and they're
already you know, we have candidates already, we.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Got we got to run to a break. But can
you stick around and talk some more after the break?
Speaker 6 (30:56):
Absolutely?
Speaker 3 (30:57):
All right?
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Great, this is how you get all filling in for
Dan kaplan we'll see in just a couple of minutes.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
And now back to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Hello, Hello, it's Wednesday afternoon. This is Heidi Ganal filling
in for Dan Caplis, and we have a guest on
with me right now, my friend Britta Horne, who is
the chair of the Republican Party, a big job in Colorado.
And Britta, I wanted to read you some of the
texts that are coming in so you could respond if
you wanted to. Let me go through a couple and
then you can respond. But once somebody says they don't
(31:29):
give a name, I don't want to follow anybody. I'm
not on any social media, but I want to know
where Britta is making her statements so I can follow along.
It's not on the Colorida GOP website. I would suggest,
and you tell me if you agree, Britta, sign up
on the website, on the Colorado GOP website and you'll
get the newsletter. Is that the best way for people
to hear if they don't want to be on social media?
Speaker 6 (31:48):
Absolutely, the website. There is a question and when you
go to the website and fill it out and just
saying you know whether you want to help join HOLP
do some of the volunteer work or do you want
the newsletter? Absolutely? Shegp dot org org.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
All right, then, Tidy and Ryan and Britta.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
No way in heck will a non Democrat win the
governorship in Colorado. The best bet, still a snowballs chance
is for a libertarian leaning slightly moderate person to run.
Even better if they're an unaffiliating the R. Sit this
one out, I can dream. And then they go on
to say that they supported, they were a delegate in sixteen,
have been pretty involved.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
So what do you have to say about that?
Speaker 6 (32:29):
I mean there, we definitely have already sixteen candidates, and
I hear a couple more coming and we don't pretty primary.
So we have to let it flush itself out. Let
we the people make the decision, and after that we're
going to have a good candidate and Libertarians. You know,
if anybody knows, the Libertarians and the Republicans that do
p the STANTOP have been working together in the past.
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That was how we were able to work on we
even with Gabe Evans, was to be able to not
have any other third party person in there, another third
person to spoil the election, one versus one, party versus party,
and we're able to get Dave Evans across the line.
So we really partner up with the Libertarians on so
many great issues that really support their chair, which is
(33:13):
Hannah Goodman. She and I get along really well. She's
like SIS or sixth generation Colorado and and I'm just
so glad that she's running the party and their party
and we can work together, all right, Britta.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Final comments is, thank you, Brita for bringing fresh strategies
to win in Colorado. The young Republicans, Hispanic Republicans and
unaffiliateds are coming back to the Carr GOP. What is
your strategy on young Republicans? Tell us a little bit
about what you're doing in that world.
Speaker 6 (33:39):
Oh, absolutely, so thank you, And they're right, we are
pulling back that tent. They're opening up the tent, having
a welcome wagon come out saying you all welcome, come
on over. Well, this is the party. We are your family,
we are your community. We're the ones with the common sense.
We're the ones that know what's best for Colorado, and
we just have to win elections. So we're getting there
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with the Young Republicans. So many Young Republicans, I think
they're thirteen, if not fourteen chapters already, and they really
mimic the same strategy and the same structure and the
same model of the state party. So they have other
different chapters in different counties and they all have leadership
and all those pieces. And thirty one of them are
bonus members for our Central Committee. The eight people that
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are a part of our state Central Committee, and they
all voted for us back in March, and we really
appreciate it because they know they're the bridge. They're the Conservatives.
The gen Z are the Conservatives, and they want this
one and having them have this bridge together, they can
come on over and be those regional directors, be those
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organizational people underneath the directors, because we really need more
of them to not only do the work because they're
going to be great and do great work at it.
But also they're are bench the next round, the next cycle,
so we can start putting them in and plugging them in.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
In all the well and exciting news, A young Republican
actually was just elected minority whip.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Is that correct, Carlos, Carlos.
Speaker 6 (35:07):
Balloon, Yes, that was great. You're absolutely right. So there
is betraying us already. And if we love that, I
love that we can't because it can't be this old party.
Then you know, I forgot what the gop.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Hey, Brettan, we are old. I hate to tell you.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
I don't always say that because we're friends and we're
about the same age. But I think we've got We've
got Hunter Rivera leading up in Weld County. We've got
I mean turning point chapters across the state. We're trying
to get even more going. There really is a resurgence
of young people getting involved in the party for to Finally,
I want you to give some tips on how people
can get involved and help you rebuild this movement.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
In the next ten seconds or so, go for it.
Speaker 6 (35:44):
Oh my gosh, thanks for ten seconds. Well, then I'm
going to say, come next Thursday, the twenties on the seventeenth.
We're going to be at Maggiano's at noon eleven o'clock
if you want to talk to me. And we're going
to have an independent person I found on tickcock. Her
name is Logic and Liberty, and she's gonna be speaking
across and saying how else we can open up that
tend open up that way. Have been bringing more people
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and all right, I'm on over Rita.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
We got a run. But thank you so much for joining.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Us, our fellow, our favorite fire chief and colorad a
GOP leader. This is Heidi Ganol filling in for Dan Kaplis.
This is Dan Kapless and welcome to today's online podcast
edition of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to
give us a five star rating if you'd be so kind,
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
Oh hello everyone, it's Heidi Ganol filling in for Dan Capless.
It's been a little while since I've been in been
busy traveling worldwide.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Ryan, I just got back last night.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
I traveled from Rome, so I'm a bit jet lagged.
If I see anything really silly, just smack me virtually
through the window.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Was it prestige worldwide? Like Stepbrothers?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
I what? I don't remember.
Speaker 5 (00:38):
I don't remember that towards the end, but they did
the music video and stuff.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
No prestige worldwide.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
It didn't feel like prestige because I sat economy between
my two kids who lay it.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
All over me for ten hours, eleven hours. Okay, we
had a great time.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
I'm not complaining.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
First world problems, right, right, right, but we had a
fantastic time. We spent the fourth of July. My husband
surprised us for Christmas, or I think one of the
holidays last year with a cruise we'd left out of
Rome and we went to Greece and Italy and spent
the fourth of July with you know, all people from
all over the world on the cruise ship. It was
(01:15):
actually really fun. They made a huge deal out of it.
And I had my America sweater on.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
I was going to say that they wish America a
happy birthday.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
They did.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Everybody was super positive, cool, it was refreshing, and we
are Actually one of the stops was the stop was
what city did we stop?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Naples?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
And we decided to go to Capri, Italy, which is
this island, and we start walking around. It's super hot,
but it's beautiful, and all of a sudden, my husband goes, hey,
that was Bezos to just walk by us. I was
like what, And, believe it or not, Jeff Bezos and
his new bride right by with all their security.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
He's short, he's not very tall.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I don't mean to offend anyone, but I was kind
of surprised. I was like, wow, she has big hair.
Though the big hair bakes out for it.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Can I say something else?
Speaker 5 (02:03):
No, I did not see that's not already talks about
what right?
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Yeah, me, don't look at me no, but anyway.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
So of course I'm kind of a I get starstruck sometimes,
so I.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Went running after like, oh my gosh, I gotta get
a picture.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
I did not catch up with them, but we also
found out that Magic Johnson was on like this million
dollar one hundred and fifty million dollar yacht hanging out.
But it was just great fun exploring parts of the
world of my kids. We got to see the Colisseum,
and the most beautiful spot we saw was the the
(02:39):
the Vatican, Saint Peter's chap It was amazing. You walk
in it, It's just like crazy cool, but so much history,
and it makes you realize how unimportant a lot of
the day to day bs stuff we talk about in
Calorida politics here is when you look at the history
of what happened in Rome two thousand years ago, You're
at the Colisseum, like, yeah, there was a little issue here,
(03:02):
and you're thinking, wow, we've got we make such a
big deal about what's happening in the day to day
world of politics here in Colorado, and I get caught
up on that.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
But we are going to talk about that.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
We're having Britta Horn as a guest, who's the chair
of the Republican Party here in Colorado at four thirty
five after the break at four thirty. So I'm excited
to talk to Britta. Is there anything you want to specifically.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Ask her about.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
Oh, we did get a reply to your post on
X along these lines. This from Mike saying, quote, I'll
try to be nice here. Who advises the Colorado GOP
on media strategy? So far it's completely s four letter word.
Compare the Colorado gop X post with let's say Governor
of Colorado meaning Jared Polos. Of course, there is a
big difference in messaging just saying well.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Mike, I can answer that because I am one of
the volunteers on the Communications committee, and we just had
our first meeting about I don't know, two weeks ago,
and we are meeting again.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
I think it's tomorrow night.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
But everyone's kind of getting their assignments, figuring out which
team they're on. We've got a social media team that's
going to start ramping up. We have some really talented
people helping. I think Britta has got over forty five
volunteers now on the various committees that are just getting activated.
Because you know, it took a bit of time to
figure out where everything was, what the Loggins were. It
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took a little bit more time than it should have
because there's so much you know, history there.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
If I may on the history.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
Yeah. So under the leadership of our mutual friend, Christy
Burton Brown, and she was once the chair of the party, Yeah,
Colorado gop on, the ex formerly known as Twitter followed
yours truly then suddenly, and I could only imagine why
under the leadership of Dave Williams that was unfollowed.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
What of yours truly?
Speaker 5 (04:47):
So if you would be so kindest to suggest to
Britta that we could be mutual follows again, I.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Think that'll work. Okay, good cravies. What on earth does
Dave have against you?
Speaker 5 (04:57):
Well, I could tell you exactly what the next sust
of it was, and it was my strong support and
believe you share this.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
But I want to speak for you for the log
cabin Republicans, yes.
Speaker 5 (05:07):
And Valdemore Archiletta absolutely, and the entire email fiasco when
it came to God hates flags and we know what
that's referencing from the Westboro Baptist Church.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
You take out the l and there you go.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
And I was pretty strong in my admonition and criticism
of that, and lo and behold, it seemed to coincide
with the timing of what I just described.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Well, I'm with you, Ryan, that was ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Well, we're trying to build a big tent party, right
are we not?
Speaker 3 (05:32):
We are there, you go, we are.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
And Altimore does incredible work. He's one of our warriors.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Oh yeah, he's great.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
And I just I don't understand that take and that
whole situation that just like made me scratch my head, like,
you guys are off the rails, what are you doing here?
But I do think Brita is doing a good job
of trying to listen to a lot of competing factions
right now and figure out what is our strategy, what
is our messaging, how do we bring more people together
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on the Republicans side even so that we can actually
win elections again? And that when you ask Britta what
her mission statement is, it's very simple. It's win elections,
win elections. Can you imagine winning elections again?
Speaker 4 (06:11):
I can imagine it.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
I'd like to realize that dream though, and live it
out in real life.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Well, we're all working very hard.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
The various forty plus volunteers that are just getting going,
just getting committees formed. I'd like to say, and I
think Britta would repeat this, We're trying to be strategic,
not quick or rushed. And I get there's a sense
of urgency, but you also got to do things the
right way, and you got to build incredible teams with
good people who are all very busy and volunteering their
(06:41):
time and give it a little bit time. I think
you're going to be impressed with what's going to happen.
And I you know, I just I love all the
people that are working on rebuilding this thing and turning
it around, and I just I.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Think it's going to be really cool soon. But I
don't know what.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Is there anything else you want to ask Brita or
concerns that you have Ryan or that you've heard from
other folks.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
I would encourage those in our audience to text those
questions to you at five seven, seven, three nine, or
to call them in.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
They can do that in the next segment as well.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
I think it just builds on what we were just
talking about, which is building that unified front avoiding the
circular firing squad. I mean, we've got a tough enough
on a road to ho here in battling against the
Democrats and elections and such, that we don't need to
be tearing each other down in apart. And I know
you've been not only out of town, you've been out
of the country. But a lot of what's going on
that I've been talking about on my show is sorting
(07:33):
through these allegations against Representative Ron Weinberg. This is the
sort of thing that, put plain and simple, just helps
the opposition, helps the Democrats knowing that we're fighting amongst ourselves,
so to speak.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
I've I've heard a little bit about it. I've been
had a chance to dig in. But my goodness, if
we all spent the energy that we spend fighting each
other on the other side, fighting the Democrats, right, we
would do so well. And there's an article that I'm
going to ask Britta about that was in I think
it was Politico about the Colorado Way and how the
Democrats are approaching the divisiveness in their own party in
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Colorado and how they're trying to take what they did
here over the last two decades and you know, transport
it to other states across the country. And I learned
a lot from this article, and I think you will
too when we talk about it more with Britta. I'll
talk about a little bit about it after the break,
But it's basic blocking and tackling. But here's the key
message in this article. Jared Poles admits that he doesn't
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talk so much about the moral consequences of a policy
or the values tied to it. He talks about how
it affects their pocketbooks, how it affects voters pocketbooks.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
And that's been a strategy all along. And when you think.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
About the different things that they've gotten through, like he
talks about quote unquote free preschool and some of the
other things that they've offered to the public pair of dollars,
that that's been magical. It's made a big difference. It's
helped them turn the state around. So I would would
say that has to be a big part of our
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messaging around conservative policies in Colorado.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
And we win on all these arguments. We win.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Look what's happening with the economy right now, and look
at the success we're having with turning things around economically.
It's magical. And if we can message that correctly in Colorado,
then shebang, we start winning elections again. So I'm excited
to talk to Bretta. I'm excited to talk to all
of you after this break. This is Heidi Ganal filling
(09:35):
in for Dan Kaplis, and I look forward to chatting
with you in just a few minutes.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
And now back to the Dan Kapless Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Hello, Hello, it's Wednesday afternoon. This is Heidi Ganal filling
in for Dan Caples with my friend Ryan Shulink. Ryan,
I heard you had quite a show earlier. My mom,
actually I was in a meeting, but she's.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Like to listen to Bryant Shoe right now.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Wow, Mama says, Oh my mom, Susie, she's on it.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
She listens to all of you.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
I appreciate her listening.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Yeah, you're one of her favorites.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
She's one of mine now for sure.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
She said, you had quite the feisty conversation going on
about this whole ron Oh my goodness, Weinberg thing.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Well, I was having a lot of messages fired at
me in real time.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
Natalie Tennant from One Angle and.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
She'll be a guest on my show tomorrow here in
Denver in the two o'clock hour. And then Brandy Bradley
was none too pleased with a statement that was issued
by House Leadership and Rose Puglici and Ty Winner about
the comments she made on My show yesterday regarding allegations
that she had against Ron Weinberg on the House floor
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in the General Assembly and how that was handled, or
to Brandy's point that she made with me, how it
wasn't handled well. House Leadership pushed back on that through
a statement. Under Bradley was not happy that it was
handled through a statement. And then Jacqueline Anderson, one of
the primary accusers of sexual harassment by Ron Weinberg, and
this was all happening actually in back to back years
at LPR in twenty one and twenty two in front
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of her husband no less both times. And her claim, Jacquelines,
is that Ron's wife Carolyn was right there and witnessed
both incidents. So this is kind of tip at the
Iceberg type stuff, but again happening in real time about
what happened and where, and to your mom's point, yeah,
that was that was kind of interesting to deal with
that kind of on a minute by minute basis.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
So what do you think should happen, Who should investigate this,
how should this be handled?
Speaker 3 (11:41):
What's your take.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Well, Ron Weinberg at some point has to make a
public comment. I think you know.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
I talked about that angle of it, kind of the
media pr standpoint, and how Michigan State University bungled the
entire Larry Nasser scandal, an investigation that most people in
our listening audience.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Probably remember there was someone else at Michigan State who
had a scandal like this too.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Who could that be?
Speaker 2 (12:02):
A football coach that was at CEU when I was a.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Regent, mel Tucker.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
Mel Tucker, by the way, I'm so glad you brought
that up. And I would say the same thing to
Dan and I have. You're welcome that we took him
that entire problem that he turned out to be off
of your hands. You're welcome, Heidi, and I'll see you
fans out, Oh my goodness. And then what did that
turn into prime time?
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Good prime it's almost football time?
Speaker 4 (12:29):
Imagine that butterfly effect.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
Though, go back in time and you could probably personally
account for this, as you were one of the regents
that I think at that time, around that time when
melt Tucker. This is as Dan tells it, and Dan
was madder than a wet hen I tell you he
doesn't swear around the air, but he was swearing off
the air. I'm like, WHOA never seen Dan? That's angry.
But mel Tucker spoke, I guess at a dinner that
night yep. And then on a midnight train to Georgia
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or a flight to East Lansing, took off from Michigan
State in the middle of it eye and took that
job right after saying I'm here to build a legacy.
I'm here to build a program at SeeU, telling all
the donors, all the alumni, all the borderach, am I wrong.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
No, you're not wrong. And I was a regent, But
did you witness that? What I just oh my goodness, wow,
crazy town.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
And before that, Mike McIntyre was the coach and he
got accused of not handling a situation. Well, and it happened,
it rolled into a whole Title nine investigations.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
Well there's an entire layer of I don't know if
it's irony or what. But Brenda Tracy was the accuser.
Now they had a little no no, no affair trust whatever.
He was married, not to her. I'm talking about melt
Tucker now. And then she came forward mind you, Brenda
Tracy travels the country going to these universities and professional
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teams counseling them in players about sexual harassment, violence and abuse.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
And she was involved in the previous Title nine investigation
as like I think a specialist or something that came
in to tell us all how it goes down. Oh man,
what a time to be a region that was intense.
I started in twenty seventeen January twenties.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Actually I started.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
The very first thing I did was go to the
Alamobile in late twenty sixteen.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
That was great fun.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
And then was there for all of COVID, for all
the cancel culture, for all.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
The DEI stuff. It was nuts. It was just nuts,
but man, it was.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
It was very interesting to be on the front lines
during that time in higher education. I got to see
where all the bodies are buried and how the sausage
is made.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
And it's not pretty. It's not pretty.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
But higher education is getting called to the carpet right
now and things are going to change a lot.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Did you see that, Linda McMahon.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
The Department of Education is and I'm not sure if
the DJ is involved in this yet, is going after
new and California.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Oh yeah, title nine.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Yeah, on title nine. It's fabulous to see somebody being.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Held to account because I'm feeling a little frustrated on
the whole Epstein thing.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
How are you feeling about that?
Speaker 5 (15:12):
We've dedicated a lot of air time, more than his
last two days about that, colle and I haven't been
shy about criticizing the Trump administration that suddenly there's nothing
to see here. Well, there is something to see here,
and most of ours us are not going to be
hoodwinked into believing otherwise. So yeah, that was frustrating. It
was nice Harmeat Dellan actually have that sound here somewhere
and can get that in a little bit. Announcing this
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lawsuit pursuing legal action against the state of California on
Title nine on the basis that biological males are participating
in girls' high school sports and this is the thing.
Gavin Newsom looked like he was kind of pendulum swinging
to the right on this issue, you know, talking about
with Charlie Kirk and I think Steve Bannon and doing
his own podcast, and I think trying to distance himself
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from the far left, Like no, it is an issue
of fairness and it's not fair. Yet they kept doing
it and he didn't do anything about it, didn't speak out.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
He's the governor of the state.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Gavin Newsom was not upfront about something or.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
Well, well, well you know where he was just at
the last twenty four hours, right South Carolina. Now, why
would he be in South Carolina? I wonder what is
South Carolina? Is that one of the first three primary
states in twenty twenty eighth for the presidential.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Ew did you see that Kamala is thinking about running
for governor of California? Yeah, I could not think there's
not a worse candidate than Gavin Newsom.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
Oh, she's sent for her. She's left for her without
hesitation or reservation. I say she's worse than he is.
And the thing is, the hardest obstacles you have to
overcome is winning the nomination for the Democrat Party. Because
she's gonna win if she gets that. And you know,
this is the problem that is Kamala Harris.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Think about it.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
She's never had to run a really competitive race until
she ran against Donald Trump and lost because she's been
in California. She was on attorney general there and then
was senator and just those.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Muscles were not flex.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
It wasn't like Heidi Ganall and the cauldron debating Jared Poulis,
you know what I mean, Like she never had to
encounter that kind of challenge from the opposite party. It
was just kind of rubber stamp in the state of California.
And look where that got them, and look where that
got her, and.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Look where that's getting us in Colorado.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Oh gosh, yes, Ryan, who do you think is kind
of coming out of the gate on the governor's race
in Colorado?
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Anybody do you see anybody kind Michael Bennett. No, I mean,
like on our.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
Side, Well, I think that was a good impression. Well,
it's it's him. I just channel him, you know.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
I think Greg Lopez has the most name recognition, and he,
of course ran against you in that primary way back when.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
And I've got to say I.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
Was a Hidi Ganal supporter from way back and I
help coax and talk and cajole Kelly Cachera. She voted
for Greg Lopez in the primary, and I'm like, you've
got to give Heidi a chance. And then but then
we met you, I think down there in Sedalia, and
when she met you in person.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
She goes, Okay, I like her.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
Oh, because Kelly for whatever she's predisposed, except for Alexa.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
Here is filling in for Kelly today.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Hey Alex, and we are not going to ask you
how you voted in the governor's race of twenty two.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Well, just she says you. She says you, yeah, thank you. Okay.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
All right, so no front runners yet.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
Like I said, Greg Lopus has the most name recognition,
but it's a wide open field.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
Yeah, all right.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Well, we are going to come back and talk to
Britta Horn and dig in to all the stuff around
the party.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
This is Heidi Ganaal filling in for Dan Capless. See
you after the break.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
You're listening to the Dan Caplis Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Well that's the perfect song to introduce our next guest.
This is Heidi Ganal filling in for Dan Caples. We've
got our favorite fire chief, Britta Horn, who's also the
chair of the Colorado Republican Party.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
On Britta, welcome to the show.
Speaker 6 (18:58):
Hey, hey, Heidi, welcome back back.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Welcome home, thank you, thank you. It's great to be back.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
And I'm getting a lot of questions just overall in
general about what's happening at the GOP and what's going.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
On, what are we doing, how are we going to
win elections?
Speaker 2 (19:15):
And I thought I know the perfect person to bring
on the show who can answer a lot of these questions.
So Britta, first of all, I talked earlier, I don't
know if you heard with Ryan about how we had
somebody asking about the media strategy and I was like, well,
I can answer that because I'm a volunteer on the
communications team and we are working very hard to get organized,
get things set up so that we can really rock
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and roll. But talk a little bit about your strategy
for rebooting this organization and what it looks like to
manage what forty to fifty volunteers to do just that
I appreciate.
Speaker 6 (19:49):
Thank you so much, and thanks for taking that call
because you are part of it. Sarah. Really right, we're
coming up on the one hundred day, you know, and
everybody remembers I did one hundred day plan, and you know,
we're checking all the boxes and we'll be putting that
out soon. But we're already, you know, we're finishing up
with that transition, you know, the transition that was the
trans transition that wasn't the things we had to, you know,
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show everybody member in the first thirty days, the first
sixty days, showing people what you know, what we found.
And then now you're absolutely right, it's time to move forward.
We have got to exactly I did hear you guys
earlier today when I jumped on at the top of
the hour, and you're right it is. You know, our
mission statement is two words, win elections exclamation plate and
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I say that everywhere because that's what we need to do.
The mission has to be that simple. So going forward,
You're absolutely right. So now we are working on that
organizational cachart and I appreciate you saying the forty fifty people,
but you know when I shared that with you, you
guys are you know we talk about all the different
committees that we put together. It's thirteen different committees. We
can talk about them. Yours is one of them, and
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then we also had the five coalitions, and then we're
going to be talking about the regional offices. And I'm
packing a lot. I'm just saying we've been doing this
and are fully functioning. That it's not only the fifty
of you leaders chairs of those committees. You have what
eight people under you right, eight seven eight people, and
the other committees have like four or five people under it.
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So we have over one hundred people working on this,
getting into that formation to move forward and how to
strategically do this and win elections in.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
What four hundred and eighty four days, Yeah, that's the midterms.
And I think for another critical thing that we had
to get through was.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Approval of the budget.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
So talk a little bit about the budget and what
it looks like fundraising wise, what your expectations are.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
You know, you've got to roll up.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Your sleeves and get donors engaged to provide resources to
do all this work too.
Speaker 6 (21:48):
Exactly, And so yes, you're right. We got the budget
passed and it is very aggressive and it's supposed to
be because where we had to go the first thirty
days of finding out where the waste of frog and
abuse was. We had to get that all cleaned up
and shut down costs that we didn't need to have
to start opening up the new ideas, and the new
ideas are different for Colorado. I know that as a
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you know, I worked for President Trump down in New
Mexico in twenty twenty as a regional field director. I
know the job. I know how it works in other states.
And we had to close down an office in Dever
that we didn't need anymore. That was wasted space, wasted time,
and we had to turn around and go out to
the people because all politics is local. So we're going
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out to the regional offices and we're going to be
in the four regions that are absolutely targeted and important
to the RNC and the White House that we retained three, four, five,
and eight. And so we already opened up but had
a soft opening down in Colorado Springs. Found a great place,
great location, great place for everybody'd be there. And we're
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going to start building this out as we get going,
starting with the school boards. It's going probably be folved,
but start getting people involved, and we're getting involved with staffing.
We have to have staffing. We have to have I
love the volunteers and they're all helping and they all
want to be a part of it, but staffing in
all four of those locations, maybe five. I always have
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my promise of maybe we'll get back to Denver, but
we're always got We have to have regional directors and
we have to have staff for them to knock on
doors to make the phone calls to build the community,
to get everybody engaged, get the young Republicans engaged, get
you know, opening up the tent, letting everybody in, getting
the independence back, having them, welcoming them back into the
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Republican Party. And that obviously takes money. And I'm making
all the calls for all the donors, and just yesterday
I had a ton of calls and they're actually saying
we're doing a great job. Keep it up. They're the
kind of calling me badass, and I'm going to take
it well.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
And fundraising is hard for whatever you're doing. But you've
got to have a vision, you've got to have a plan.
And Bert, one of the things we talked a little
bit about is your approach to building out this infrastructure
based on your experience as a chief.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
And I want you to talk a little bit about that.
Speaker 6 (24:07):
Oh you're so sweet. So yeah, this is what I've learned.
We've learned this in all the years and we're going
on emergencies, going on incidences. It's for any type. It's
a system. It's obviously military too, and you can call
fire paramilitary, I don't care. But we still use the
same infinite command system I see s and that's how
you build it out. And you have like a span
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of control is wing more between five and seven and
five is perfect life. You can't run more than five
things at once. And when I looked at all these committees,
not only those standing ones, which are about five of
them in the bi laws. Standing means the ones that
are you know, in the by laws and have certain responsibilities,
you have all these different ones at will, at hoc
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ones that you've got to have. So we had thirteen
actually even figured out in previous administrations of the GOP.
And one person can't men thirteen. So we broke it
down into three different groups. We have leaders of each,
you know, not only every one of those committees, but
then we even have an assistant to the chief for
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every one of those three groups, and then the information
goes to them, and then the information comes up to us,
which is the you know, unified command, those who are
elected and our executive director. And it works perfectly, and
it's working like a dream, and once everybody understands it
and gets it. But I know business people and entrepreneurs
use this as much as well.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Yeah, I agree, and I think I mean, we can
certainly as somebody on the Communications Committee and trying to
help lead that effort. Talk more about what we're up to,
what we're doing, But a lot of us have day
jobs too, or things other things.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
We're working on.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
So we just have to be more more committed to
doing that on a regular basis, and we will as
we get these committees ruling.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Britt One of the.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Things that I'm getting texts about right now is about
the lawsuit around unaffiliated voters, independent voevoters voting in the primaries.
Can you give us an update on what's happening with
the Claremont suit that Kevin Lamberg is leading and when
we'll know if that's going to be an effect for
twenty six or can it be so?
Speaker 6 (26:13):
Yeah, So we looked at it and we've been asking
and we're saying that it's still working on it. They're
working on the process. So you're right, the lawsuits still going.
It needs to go to the Supreme Court and we
just haven't gotten there yet. So they're doing all the
pieces to get there. But at this point when we
are just what is it now fifteen months out from
the election notes twelve thirteen parts, maybe eighteen months, we're
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going to have to in that four hundred plus days.
There's no way that's going to change how we're going
to do twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Okay, so twenty six is going to be the same.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
It's going to be unaffiliated voters getting two ballots and
picking one from the Democrat or Republican party and voting
in the primaries to elect the primary candidates for each
of those parties.
Speaker 6 (26:55):
Correct, exact, exactly. So that is what is important is
everybody knows that we are finally now taking a football
to the football game instead of trying to take a
football to a tennis match. We have to play the
game that we have in front of us.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Yep, I agree. Okay, So.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Twenty six we've got a lot of statewide races. We
have the governor's race, Attorney General, Secretary of state, treasurer.
We've got four congressional seats that are really really important.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
And I know you've spent a.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Lot of time talking to the RNC and the NRCC,
which is the Congressional National Committee, and the S and
r SC, the Senatorial Committee.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
What are you hearing from those guys?
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Are they going to play in Colorado, what's their priority
and how are they going to help you do your
job here, or vice versa.
Speaker 6 (27:41):
You help them debsolutely the same things from the NRC.
They're all on the RNC. Excuse me. They are all
going to make sure that we are playing with us,
on the ground with us and making sure this job
is getting done. So it'll be like you said, will
be funding helping make sure that we get all these offices,
get all the staff, and get moving moving forward and
make sure we hold the line and then win more
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elections because we still have quite event to do at
the State House and the State Senate too.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Yeah, I agree, and I think I keep talking about
how important these four congressional seats are to keeping the
House of Representatives in the hands of conservatives for President
Donald Trump so he can keep going with his agenda.
And we've got two really critical races in Congressional District III,
which is Jeff Hurd, who's freshman congressman from the Western
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Slope and Pueblo.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
And then we've.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Got CD eight, which is Gabe Evans, another freshman congressman
up in the North Metro Denver area.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Doing a very good job.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
They both just voted for the big beautiful bill and
in order to make sure that big beautiful Bill gets executed. Well,
we need to keep them in their seats, and I
think that has got to be a priority for twenty
twenty six, is focusing on those two races and making
sure that those guys get the help that they need.
How can people volunteer if they want to help? Can
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they just go to their county GOP or should they
go to the state GOP?
Speaker 3 (29:04):
How do people get engaged?
Speaker 6 (29:06):
I think whatever is uncomfortable for everybody. If they can't
find you know, go to their county obviously and say
I'm here to help. Well, how can we help You
can't find them on Facebook or their website or wherever
that is, then go to our website that CEO, l
O g OP dot O RG and there's a place
at the bottom, you know, asking questions. You know you
want to you know, help, how you want to help,
(29:28):
Just put any information in there. We will see it. Today.
We definitely are all you know, much more remote now,
which is fine because it's good for us to be
in all the different places and be where the pulse
is and be where all the events are, and we'll
see the information and we'll get you plugged in because
everyone has to figure out how they want to be
helped and how they want to help doing this. We
have so many people that like to do data so
much like to do technology. You know, our our audit group,
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we have a great group of people working on our
audit and they identified to go into the filos that
there were five different post points touch it's for the
audit to make sure we are being transparent and making
sure we're being financially responsible for the money that we
are getting in. And you know, some people want to
do that. So there's as a committee you want to
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be on if there's something you want to help in
your area. We definitely need to do the block and tackling.
We need to be knocking doors, making phone calls and
certainly right now doing it for twenty five. For school Board,
we're already helping out with school Board. I was listening.
I was last night in Larimer County at their county meeting.
It was an ice cream social owner. It was like
forty fifty people there and I was already watching you
(30:33):
know school boy Canada City council mayor candidates. You know
the vacancy that's going to be coming up for arm
A guest that's going on to Arizona, right and so,
like you know, it's just fun to see everybody here
to why so why what? Seventh eight yesterday and they're
already you know, we have candidates already, we.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Got we got to run to a break. But can
you stick around and talk some more after the break?
Speaker 6 (30:56):
Absolutely?
Speaker 3 (30:57):
All right?
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Great, this is how you get all filling in for
Dan kaplan we'll see in just a couple of minutes.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
And now back to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Hello, Hello, it's Wednesday afternoon. This is Heidi Ganal filling
in for Dan Caplis, and we have a guest on
with me right now, my friend Britta Horne, who is
the chair of the Republican Party, a big job in Colorado.
And Britta, I wanted to read you some of the
texts that are coming in so you could respond if
you wanted to. Let me go through a couple and
then you can respond. But once somebody says they don't
(31:29):
give a name, I don't want to follow anybody. I'm
not on any social media, but I want to know
where Britta is making her statements so I can follow along.
It's not on the Colorida GOP website. I would suggest,
and you tell me if you agree, Britta, sign up
on the website, on the Colorado GOP website and you'll
get the newsletter. Is that the best way for people
to hear if they don't want to be on social media?
Speaker 6 (31:48):
Absolutely, the website. There is a question and when you
go to the website and fill it out and just
saying you know whether you want to help join HOLP
do some of the volunteer work or do you want
the newsletter? Absolutely? Shegp dot org org.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
All right, then, Tidy and Ryan and Britta.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
No way in heck will a non Democrat win the
governorship in Colorado. The best bet, still a snowballs chance
is for a libertarian leaning slightly moderate person to run.
Even better if they're an unaffiliating the R. Sit this
one out, I can dream. And then they go on
to say that they supported, they were a delegate in sixteen,
have been pretty involved.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
So what do you have to say about that?
Speaker 6 (32:29):
I mean there, we definitely have already sixteen candidates, and
I hear a couple more coming and we don't pretty primary.
So we have to let it flush itself out. Let
we the people make the decision, and after that we're
going to have a good candidate and Libertarians. You know,
if anybody knows, the Libertarians and the Republicans that do
p the STANTOP have been working together in the past.
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That was how we were able to work on we
even with Gabe Evans, was to be able to not
have any other third party person in there, another third
person to spoil the election, one versus one, party versus party,
and we're able to get Dave Evans across the line.
So we really partner up with the Libertarians on so
many great issues that really support their chair, which is
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Hannah Goodman. She and I get along really well. She's
like SIS or sixth generation Colorado and and I'm just
so glad that she's running the party and their party
and we can work together, all right, Britta.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Final comments is, thank you, Brita for bringing fresh strategies
to win in Colorado. The young Republicans, Hispanic Republicans and
unaffiliateds are coming back to the Carr GOP. What is
your strategy on young Republicans? Tell us a little bit
about what you're doing in that world.
Speaker 6 (33:39):
Oh, absolutely, so thank you, And they're right, we are
pulling back that tent. They're opening up the tent, having
a welcome wagon come out saying you all welcome, come
on over. Well, this is the party. We are your family,
we are your community. We're the ones with the common sense.
We're the ones that know what's best for Colorado, and
we just have to win elections. So we're getting there
(33:59):
with the Young Republicans. So many Young Republicans, I think
they're thirteen, if not fourteen chapters already, and they really
mimic the same strategy and the same structure and the
same model of the state party. So they have other
different chapters in different counties and they all have leadership
and all those pieces. And thirty one of them are
bonus members for our Central Committee. The eight people that
(34:23):
are a part of our state Central Committee, and they
all voted for us back in March, and we really
appreciate it because they know they're the bridge. They're the Conservatives.
The gen Z are the Conservatives, and they want this
one and having them have this bridge together, they can
come on over and be those regional directors, be those
(34:44):
organizational people underneath the directors, because we really need more
of them to not only do the work because they're
going to be great and do great work at it.
But also they're are bench the next round, the next cycle,
so we can start putting them in and plugging them in.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
In all the well and exciting news, A young Republican
actually was just elected minority whip.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Is that correct, Carlos, Carlos.
Speaker 6 (35:07):
Balloon, Yes, that was great. You're absolutely right. So there
is betraying us already. And if we love that, I
love that we can't because it can't be this old party.
Then you know, I forgot what the gop.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Hey, Brettan, we are old. I hate to tell you.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
I don't always say that because we're friends and we're
about the same age. But I think we've got We've
got Hunter Rivera leading up in Weld County. We've got
I mean turning point chapters across the state. We're trying
to get even more going. There really is a resurgence
of young people getting involved in the party for to Finally,
I want you to give some tips on how people
can get involved and help you rebuild this movement.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
In the next ten seconds or so, go for it.
Speaker 6 (35:44):
Oh my gosh, thanks for ten seconds. Well, then I'm
going to say, come next Thursday, the twenties on the seventeenth.
We're going to be at Maggiano's at noon eleven o'clock
if you want to talk to me. And we're going
to have an independent person I found on tickcock. Her
name is Logic and Liberty, and she's gonna be speaking
across and saying how else we can open up that
tend open up that way. Have been bringing more people
(36:06):
and all right, I'm on over Rita.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
We got a run. But thank you so much for joining.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Us, our fellow, our favorite fire chief and colorad a
GOP leader. This is Heidi Ganol filling in for Dan Kaplis.
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