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July 10, 2025 35 mins
Upon her return from a family European vacation, Heidi Ganahl laments parking at Denver International Airport - as a suggestion arrives from an unexpected source.

Heidi also leans into Ryan for potential solutions for the Colorado Republican party on potentially winning statewide elections.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Dan Capless and welcome to today's online podcast
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
Hello everyone, this is Heidigan All filling in for Dan
Caplis this lovely Wednesday night.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
It's hot out there.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
It's what one hundred degrees today, pretty toasty, but beautiful,
beautiful Colorado summer day. One of the things that I
noticed when I was traveling abroad was like, the climate
here in Colorado is just different.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
There's not a lot of humidity.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
But no matter how hot it is, it's still pretty
nice out But one of the things that it affords
us to do is really enjoy our outdoors. And tomorrow
I'm actually getting on an airplane again to go to Washington,
DC for a board meeting. I'm on the board of
the American Conservation Coalition. It's called ACC and it is
a really cool organization that helped President Trump put together

(01:01):
a really neat executive order called Make America Beautiful Again.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
And why is this important?

Speaker 2 (01:07):
Well, this is important because one of the things that
Colorado young people care most about is our environment.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
They want clean land, clean air, clean water, and.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Yes, they care about climate change, even conservative young people.
And the Make America Beautiful Act is President Trump's way
of supporting the idea that we are actually the.

Speaker 3 (01:27):
Party of conservation.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
We're the party of Teddy Roosevelt, the original conservation guy,
and we have great ideas on how to make our air, water,
and land cleaner and better protected. And it's not just
all about climate change. It's about making sure that we
support the people who make a living off the land,
the ranchers, the farmers, the great people across the state

(01:53):
of Colorado that have been here for generations and generations,
and making sure that they are part of the conversation
which absolutely has not been happening in Colorado, as evidenced
by the whole wolves conversation and that debacle that's been
the role out of introducing wolves back into our state.
So I'm going to meet with the fellow board members.

(02:13):
Corey Gardner's very involved in this group, so is Chris Wright,
who's now our energy secretary. They've got over eighty thousand
members across the country at college campuses across the United States,
that are involved in ACC, young people that care deeply
about this and are taking the conversation back from the
left about who really cares about the environment.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
Well, I think all young people care about the environment.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
But I think we have better solutions and all of
the above energy approach, using nuclear energy where we can,
and making sure that there's reasonable approaches to conservation of land,
working with our ranchers, our farmers, the folks on the
ground that have been here for generations and generations. So

(02:56):
I think this has to be a really big part
of our strategy. Ward's communicating with young conservatives in Colorado,
with young people in general on college campuses too, So
I would encourage all of you to go check out
the website ACC dot eco. I also just wrote an
article in Rocky Mountain Voice about MABA make America Beautiful Again,

(03:18):
And you can learn a lot more about this movement
by finding that article on R and V Rocky Mountain
Voice dot com. It's I think you just search MABA
or look in the last couple of days it came out,
or look on my social media.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
But it's really really.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Important to meet young people where they are and this
is an issue they care deeply about and you know, Ryan,
I think it's part of this whole approach to bringing
young people into the party.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
We've got to meet.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Them where they are on issues that they care about.
And I think this is a really important one in
Colorado as we enjoy this beautiful state in this beautiful summer.
I think it's got to be a conversation that we
take back from the left.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
What are your thoughts on that?

Speaker 4 (03:57):
I mean, there's got to be a way, right.

Speaker 5 (03:59):
I mean, I think we made headway, and there's just
such a there's so much ground to be made up.
And I thought the campaign that you ran against Jared
Polis was as well as any individual could ron, especially
against someone of his means.

Speaker 4 (04:12):
That was always like, you know.

Speaker 5 (04:13):
The big obstacle was that he was independently wealthy and
could spend his own money on his campaign. And that's
an observation that Dan made many times. But are there
vulnerable candidates? I mean, you can't sit there and tell
me that Michael Bennett is some kind of invincible force.
You know, even Kyle Clark, comrade Kyle, our good friend,

(04:33):
calls him a cicada because he only comes around every
thirteen years to be heard or seen. And that's a
derisive comment in and of itself from a media member
of the left. And he has to me the favorite
because Phil none the Wiser is exactly that refuses.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
To run the Wiser. I have not heard that before.
That's hilarious.

Speaker 5 (04:50):
Dan claims it was in existence like long before I
coined it.

Speaker 4 (04:54):
That's false, that's fake news. But what Phil didn't do
was step up.

Speaker 5 (04:59):
And let's just I'm just objectively offering a Nichols worth
of free advice to Phil Wiser on his campaign if
he's going to run head to head against Bennett, who
has better name recognition, certainly nationally. And Michael Bennett comes
out and says, well, I'm gonna hold onto my Senate seat,
you know, till I'm governor that I could pick my successor.

Speaker 4 (05:15):
He's like, no, no, no, bro, you're gonna run.

Speaker 5 (05:17):
Then you leave the Senate seat behind and then Jared
Paulus fills it and then you focus on the governor's race.
But he doesn't want to do that. Once that was
cake and eat it too. Wiser should have went all
in on that crickets. So you know, got to figure
that Bennett's the favorite.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
I guess yeah, I agree.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
But have you heard and speaking of the environment, talking
about Colorado and conservation, that Ken Salazar is going to
jump in? Who was the previous Department of Interior secretary
correct under Obama?

Speaker 4 (05:43):
Okay, all right, that's a pretty big name.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
Yeah, I've heard rumblings about that. Nothing yet, but I
hear things they're teeing up for him to.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
Take on Michael Bennett and Phil Wiser. Where do you
think that would bring to the race.

Speaker 5 (05:56):
I think that could be a game changer in triangulating
not only the party and the voters within the Democratic Party.
He would participate in the primary, But where does the
money go? Where do the donors go? Are they automatically
going to line up behind Bennett or sell Us?

Speaker 4 (06:10):
Are you knows.

Speaker 5 (06:10):
Well connected in Colorado politics himself? Might he drain some
of that support away from Bennett and make it an
actual race? Because I don't see if it's head to
head basically essentially, what it boils down to Bennett versus
Wise or the field stands a chance?

Speaker 4 (06:23):
But Salas, are you know now you got three in
the race that could change the dynamic a little bit.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
I think well, I mean I think back to our
conversation about who's running on the conservative side. I have
heard and today Colorada Times a Quarter, which I don't
think of as media, they're a Democrat propaganda site, but
they researched and found that Barb Kirkmeyer had registered Kirkmeyer
for governor.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
And I've heard that she's going to jump in, or
she was looking at some polling, but I don't know what.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
If she's looking at polling that says that, wow, we
have a great shot at pulling this off, like I don't.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
I haven't seen that anywhere.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
So I think Barb a great state senator. I think
we've got sixteen people already running. I've heard Bobby Daniel
from the Western Slope is going to jump in.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
We'd love to have some more ladies in the race.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
But this is all going to come down to money,
Monney money. I can't and I wish I hadn't learned
this lesson the hard way, But I learned that I
was naive enough to think I could outwork the money
thirty three million dollars worth compared to our four or
five million dollars.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
But the candidates that I've been talking to, I asked.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Them that question, where are you getting the money to
do this, How are you going to outraise the other
people to win the primary or to win the general.
I haven't heard any good answers to that question. So
that's my biggest worry on the Republican side is that
people are thinking that they can outwork the money, and
I learned that lesson the hard way. It doesn't work
that way. You got to at least stay even with them.

(07:52):
What are your thoughts on that. Have you seen anything
or heard anything that we should feel.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
Differently about that?

Speaker 4 (07:58):
Well?

Speaker 5 (07:58):
I think the blueprint would be similar to the national scene,
and how do Republicans rest back power? We did so
with an independently wealthy billionaire in the form of Donald Trump.

Speaker 4 (08:08):
Even before that, either.

Speaker 5 (08:10):
Bush, Herbert Walker, Bush, or w that's a wealthy family
that was able to kind of use that as a
culgel in politics. We haven't seen really that voice on
our side of the aisle break through in any meaningful way.
I'm trying to think of a state level race too,
not just hear in Colorado, but nationwide where maybe a
populist voice that wasn't wealthy was able to overcome that

(08:33):
enormous obstacle. That is just kind of the unspoken rule
in politics now, which is where the dollars go the
w's And I see that as being, like to your point,
in your race, an insurmountable obstacles. So how do we
overcome that here in Colorado when the resources are already kind
of stacked against us as an advantage for Democrats?

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Yeah, I agree, and I don't have an answer to that.
I'm pretty in tune with all the donors in Colorado
a nationwide now, and I understand their concerns that we just.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
Don't see it. We don't see a path forward here.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
We're rebuilding that, we're doing everything we can to put
the infrastructure in place to make that happen. And I
want to be optimistic, and we need good candidates running,
but they've got to make fundraising a huge priority.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
And they've also been quiet on the issue of.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Election integrity, which is shocking to me because a lot
of the people running for governor have been very loud
and vocal about, oh, the elections are stolen, like we
don't feel comfortable, like our vote matters, and yet they're
not talking about what's going to change to get them elected,
like what's going to happen what work are they doing
to make sure that our vote is counted fairly and
that the elections are like on the up and up.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
I don't hear anybody talking about that.

Speaker 5 (09:49):
And it's another thing too to overcome the inherent media
coverage obstacle in this state in particular as well, and
you see it in the form.

Speaker 4 (09:57):
I think a good.

Speaker 5 (09:58):
Example of how our party was able to get a
very significant win was in the eighth congressional district with
Gabe Evans against Yudira Caravel. And there were a lot
of negative ads as you might recall from the Democratic
Party against Gabe late in that race, and yet he was.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
Still able to pull out a victory.

Speaker 5 (10:13):
I think he might lend himself to being able to
show that roadmap or provide that guidance for somebody to
based on his message, which he was very good at delivering,
the debate performance that he had against you Deira Caravale,
which I thought was a total mismatch, and winning a
seat that was narrowly lost before by the aforementioned Barb Kirkmeyer.
So I think there's an element of strategy that could

(10:33):
be involved here that could be winning. But we're talking
about state wide races, and that's a totally different ballgame,
as you know.

Speaker 4 (10:39):
Yeah, and he.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
Had the NRCC behind him right like they wanted to
play nationally in that race, and same in CD three,
And that makes a huge difference. If you don't have
the RNC or the RGA which is the Governor Association,
or the NRSC which is the Senate which I don't
think the Senate National Senate Committee's going to put any
money into the national in the Senate race here.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
Then that's a big issue.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
That's ten twenty thirty million dollars that you're missing, and
the campaign finance laws make it incredibly difficult to compete
with that without a pack or outside dark money to
make that happen. So I think we've got our candidates
need to start talking about how they're going to raise
the money to be competitive, how they're going to deal
with election integrity, how they're going to deal with the
liberal media, Like how are they going to get their

(11:22):
message out? They're not calling Rocky Mountain Voice and saying, hey,
we need to help, we need to get you guys,
you know, reaching out to a million people, not just
two hundred thousand, you know, I just it's a little discouraging,
and I would say that the candidates who do come
out of the gate and can talk about solutions for
those problems are going to have a better shot at

(11:43):
winning the primary. But we've got a lot more to
talk about on this front, Ryan, I know, I want
to pick your brain on some other things around the
upcoming elections. So this is iiding and all filling in
for Dan Kaplis. We'll be back in just a few
minutes to continue the conversation.

Speaker 4 (12:00):
And now back to the Dan Kapliss Show podcast.

Speaker 6 (12:03):
Sebastian is not the only one who's sick and tired
of taking off your shoes at the airport and seeing
other people's feet. What are we talking about here? We'll
get this, going through airport security.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
Is too much of a hassle.

Speaker 6 (12:16):
Fifty nine percent fifty nine percent a flyer say it
is too much of a hassle. And amongst those who
haven't signed up for TSA prechecks, such as myself, we're
talking over sixty percent of those flyers say going through
airport security is too much of a hassle. But it's
not just that it's a hassle to take off your shoes.
It's also that Americans didn't think it was actually doing anything.

(12:38):
What are we talking about here, taking off shoes at
airport security?

Speaker 4 (12:42):
Very effective security measure?

Speaker 6 (12:44):
Only twenty six percent of Americans said it was a
very effective security measure. And get this, They asked Americans
to rate seven different ways in which the airport was
trying to ensure security. Guess we're taking off your shoes
r In terms of those seven different ways, it ranked
seventh out of seventh when it came to very effective

(13:06):
security measures. Of course, there is a whole question of
whether or not this will impact whether folks like myself
actually sign up for TSA PreCheck. And indeed, when we're
talking about Department of Homeland Security Trusted Traveler programs for
expedited screening, including TSA PreCheck, get this, over forty million
Americans are signed up for it. Will folks actually stay

(13:29):
signed up now that you don't have to take your
shoes off anymore? Well, maybe so, because keep in mind,
you're still going to have to take off your jacket
if you're not signed up for a DHS Trusted Traveler program.

Speaker 4 (13:41):
So I guess the.

Speaker 6 (13:42):
Question is, is taking off your shoes really that much to
go back? To the old ways.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
I guess, oh, Ryan, this is such a pet peeve
of mine.

Speaker 4 (13:52):
Mask flying, I was just flying.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
I'm in a flagon tomorrow, and it's just it's like
the silliest I mean, I get why they did it.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
They were but I read a really funny post or
somebody said the man who unsuccessfully tried to do the
shoe bomb thing irritated, annoyed, and just destroyed people, more
people in the world than any other human being on
the planet. Like he's the most annoying person on the planet.

(14:19):
For the last twenty years, he's made everybody take off
their shoes.

Speaker 5 (14:22):
Well you remember who that was. No, his name was
Richard Reid, and I think it was a flight either
two or from France. And do you know where he's
currently serving his time, No, Florence Supermax.

Speaker 4 (14:32):
Right here in Colorado. Yeah, seriously, true story.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
He needs to be in jail for making all of
us do that for twenty years. That was ridiculous.

Speaker 5 (14:40):
Should be slapped across the face with a shoe every day,
because yeah, that was his action. It happened right around
the same time as nine to eleven. I mean, we're
going back almost twenty five years now. And that's when
we had to start taking off our shoes. I remember distinctly, Heidi,
the only marathon I've ever completed was July two thousand
and one, right before nine to eleven, like not even

(15:02):
two full months before nine to eleven, and I flew
to San Diego, and I remember distinctly just getting on
the plane. Now there's security, but you know, just kind
of walk on through. You get on the plane, you
get off the plane. That was the last time I ever.

Speaker 4 (15:15):
Flew like that.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
Ah, it's just it's so it's such a process now
to fly. And the parking at DA is so bad.
You literally have to park in far reaches of Aurara.

Speaker 4 (15:28):
Get to the air Do you have tsa pre check?

Speaker 3 (15:31):
I do, and I have clear I have everything. Wow,
it doesn't help.

Speaker 4 (15:35):
Well, wait a minute.

Speaker 5 (15:36):
I'll give DIA some credit because we know they get
a lot of criticism. And I heard Mike Johnston, the mayor,
you know how his voice is on the shuttle and
you're going there, we're now the fifth most busy airport
in the world.

Speaker 4 (15:49):
Like that's not great.

Speaker 5 (15:52):
He leaves it hanging, goes can you name the top four?
And he never gives the answer. It's like, well, wait
a minute, what was the answer, Mayor Mike. But I
do like the did some reconstruction on the line for
TSA pre check and clear and how you go in,
and it's pretty streamlined and it's pretty quick, and I
do appreciate that.

Speaker 4 (16:10):
If you say so, I think so.

Speaker 5 (16:13):
I mean better than it was because remember you go
through the rat maze.

Speaker 4 (16:16):
And everybody else. That's true, it's totally separate entrance.

Speaker 5 (16:19):
Now for those of us that and it's that what
is a fifty bucks You pay that in advance, you
get a security clearance check for TSA pre for five years.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
Yes, you actually have to go to the airport and
interview and you have a certain time slot. If you
don't show up, it takes another five months to get in.
It's it's pretty hardcore to get that. But and clear
you pay I think it's what one nine year But
I travel all the time, so it's it's.

Speaker 4 (16:44):
Worth it for me.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
But here's the thing. This goes to a bigger issue.
I don't know if you saw.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
One of the most important Supreme Court decisions I don't
know in my lifetime, was made a couple of days ago,
and it wasn't talked a lot about in the press,
but it goes to bureaucracy, goes to TSA and government employees.
It actually allows Trump administration, the Trump administration to downsize
these agencies and actually lay people.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
Off, which has been a huge issue.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
One of the things that I talked to Will Traigman,
a friend of mine who runs Mountain States Legal Foundation.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
He's a great guy.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
He worked for the Office of Civil Rights under Betsy Devas,
and he said, there's this thing called burrowing in and
you may have heard this, where they the presidents or
the staff, hire all these people and it's almost impossible
to fire them or get rid of them. And so
every new administration that comes in has to make a decision,
especially if they're conservative. They can't downsize because then they're

(17:42):
outnumbered because they can't lay people off, and then they
end up in lawsuits anyway. So they have to add
more people so that they're not outnumbered, which just grows
it and grows it and grows it. So the Supreme
Court actually said a couple days ago that they can
downsize these agencies. It's going to be magic. It's beautiful.
It's a beautiful thing.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
Super excited to see that happen.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
This is Hidi gan All filling in for Dan Caplis
with my friend Ryan Schulling. We'll be back after the break.

Speaker 4 (18:27):
You're listening to the Dankplis Show podcast.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
Oh hello, it's.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
Heidi Ganol filling in for Dan Caplis here with my
friend Ryan.

Speaker 4 (18:36):
Hello.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
Ryan, I got some good text messages with tips I'm
parking at DIA while we were on break. So this
one says, Hi, do you use fine f I n
E parking at da seamless?

Speaker 4 (18:47):
Never heard of it?

Speaker 3 (18:48):
I haven't either, but I'm gonna look it up.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
And then this texture says, I don't recommend parking at
the airport, too many incidents of stolen cars and catalytic converters.
But if you do park, I like Wally park, reserve
your spot ahead of time.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
That's asking a lot from me.

Speaker 4 (19:04):
You know where that text came from.

Speaker 5 (19:05):
No five feet to my left, No of Alexa, beautiful Alexa.

Speaker 4 (19:11):
Yeah, but Alexa like everywhere.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
I'm so bad at planning ahead of time for this stuff,
even the day of. Is there an app or what
do you do?

Speaker 4 (19:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (19:22):
I have?

Speaker 7 (19:23):
I think my husband's use that app. Okay, think there
is an app, but very easy. You tell them what
time your flight leaves and what time you land, and
you just call them when you land and they're there.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
So all right, well that's good news. That's good news.
I will try it.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
I think I'm gonna uber tomorrow, but or actually just
take a car since I'm gonna be on like a
couple of days. But I there's another article in Rocky
Mountain Boye. I want to bring everyone's attention. And like
I said, I've been gone so I haven't paid close
attention to what's going on here, but maybe you have.
Ryan Paulo's just called for a special session in August
because Trump's budget bombshell blew a one billion dollar hole

(20:00):
in Colorado's finances.

Speaker 4 (20:01):
Good.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
Now, when I dug into this, here's what's really going on.
They're blaming it on the bill. But what actually is
going on is that they're requiring through the bill for
people to work, if they're able bodied, to get Medicaid benefits.

Speaker 4 (20:15):
Right.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
So I don't think that's asking too much. No, I
don't think most Americans think that's asking for too much.
But the other thing is they're asking for the states
to make sure that people are eligible for Medicaid benefits
twice a year before we pay out big sums of
money to help, you know, cover them and make sure
that they're not illegally here. And the other reason that

(20:39):
Colorado is going to be in such a hole is
let me pull this up because I want to. I
don't want to mess this up, right, But.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
The bill cuts.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
From ninety percent to a much lower percentage the portion
of costs the federal government will pay for emergency only
Medicaid services for otherwise ineligible non citizens. Oh so they're
still going to pay for some of this for people
who aren't citizens for emergency only services, but it's just
down from ninety percent to fifty percent. So the states

(21:10):
have to decide if they're going to kick in that
extra amount. So again this goes back to the effects
of immigration on our state, on our country, and we
got to take care of our own citizens first.

Speaker 5 (21:21):
Think about the budget shortfall in the city of Denver
too that may Or Mike Johnson is facing, and why
because it is a bottomless pit of a so called
investment in accommodating illegal aliens ahead of our own citizens,
and so they're looking to lay people off to fire people,
to cut staff, to cut parks and wreck, to cut
out of their services provided by the city, all for

(21:42):
what I would say is a boondoggle investment that you
don't get a return on that investment in Roli, so
to speak, you're just kind of paying this out. Nothing's
coming in. The tax base is leaving. So those that
you would like to collect taxes on business owners, restaurant owners,
et cetera, they're fleeing, they're getting out of town. So
that's another problem where you get upside down in all

(22:03):
of this. And then it goes back to the point
that I was discussing with Representative Gabe Evans in an
interview I conducted with him recently, which is, if we're
against waste, fraud and abuse in the big beautiful bill
when it comes to Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security benefits, then
therefore the conclusion you can draw is the Democrats, as
you just kind of pointed out, they support waste, fraud

(22:25):
and abuse and excess of spending that should be cut.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Okay, So how do we get through to the voters
in Colorado that this is what they're voting for, because
obviously I don't think they're conscious of that, or they
just so blindly following the Democrat mantras that they don't
want to know or ignoring it what's going on here.

Speaker 5 (22:43):
I think it's a battle of information, and you know,
people can seek out shows like this one or shows
like mine and Denver and you know, find out what's
really going on that cuts through the clutter and the
white noise. It's being presented to them by the mainstream media,
which is largely just lying to them and packaging it
a certain way. But then again, you've got this kind
of deluge of information for those that are kind of

(23:04):
load to medium information voters. They're not really thinking about it.
They're going about their everyday lives. They're working in their jobs,
they don't have a lot of time to spare, and
they're just being sold this bill of goods and fed
this kind of information, and I don't think they really
get to the heart of the matter as to what's
really going on here. Where's the money going, where is
it coming from, who's it being spent on, who's being

(23:24):
prioritized And it's not the citizens of Denver, and it's
not the citizens of Colorado.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
So Ryan, if you're a candidate running for governor or
attorney general or.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
Treasurer, secretary of state.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
As a Republican, what do you do differently this time
to wake people up?

Speaker 3 (23:42):
Is there anything you can do.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
Differently and pretend you don't have millions and millions of dollars?
How can we approach this differently to give our candidates
a shot without writing them a check for forty fifty
million dollars?

Speaker 5 (23:53):
I think we need an exceptional communicator, somebody that that's
front and center and how they operate, they run their ballgame,
how they present themselves to the average voter, who they
reach out to, what do they use to reach those people?

Speaker 4 (24:07):
And I think a lot of it.

Speaker 5 (24:08):
Unfortunately, because of the numbers game here is they're gonna
have to go behind enemy lines, like do a sit
down with Kyle Clark. I know, I know, I'm aware
of it. Well, I get through to people that might
not otherwise.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
See, you work for Greg Lopez. He got destroyed by
Kyle and they use that clip in every negative ad
against him.

Speaker 4 (24:25):
Yes, yep, that's the risk, that's the risk.

Speaker 5 (24:28):
But I don't know how otherwise you penetrate into these markets,
the Denver Boulder corridor. You know, a rappa Hole County
where I live, has gone from red in two thousand
and four to deep blue now and again. It's a
war of information and if you don't have the money
kind of generate your own momentum in that regard, then
you have to kind of win in Rome do as

(24:49):
the Romans do.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
Are you watching New Jersey at all? And what's going
on with the governor's race there?

Speaker 4 (24:53):
I have not heard a lot.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
It's cool Jack and I always mess up his name,
CITRELLI who he and I texted a lot when we
were running for governor in twenty two.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
He's running again and he's doing a great job. He's
a great communicator. He's just New Jersey through and through.
He's focusing on the right issues.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
And I actually think they have a chance of flipping
things in New Jersey. But here's one thing that's happening
that I think we need in Colorado is all the
rest of the states are kind of seeing this momentum
and this hope in New Jersey and get behind helping him.
And so if we live in a state like Colorado
where we kind of like, I don't know if we
can do anything here, let's help another state flip and

(25:31):
So what if we all get behind texting and calling
and supporting voters in New Jersey and then what if
next election they help us, Like what if we pool
resources like that and get a lot more momentum going
for certain states that actually we do see a glimmer
of hope and we can see the light at the
end of the tunnel. We got to push them over
the finish line, which is actually what we did with

(25:53):
the Road to Red project.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
In the twenty twenty four election.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
We all we got a bunch of women's groups on
Colorado to get together and write handwritten postcards to women
undecided voters in Philadelphia, and we kind of called them
our sister state and we said, let's help there. We
wrote over seven thousand handwritten postcards from women in Colorado,
did this to women in Pennsylvania in Philadelphia who we

(26:19):
knew were on the fence. Turning point gave us information
to say, Okay, these are the women you want to
reach out to. And we played a little role right
in getting Donald Trump elected since Colorado didn't want to
play ball there. But I think we could start to
look at things that way, and maybe that's how we
look at some of the races in Colorado too. We
find races for state legislature or attorney General, secretary of state, whatever.

(26:43):
Pick some races where we have a really good candidate
who's messaging well, and we just focus our energy on winning,
picking off just a couple, you know, a couple of
these tough races. I think that's what happened with Rebecca
Kelt down in Opaso County.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
She only won by three votes, but she won. I
remember that, and everybody around the state was of like,
I like that chick. She's good cheat.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
She ran for Congress before, and she was edgy and
fun and I really enjoyed getting to know her on
the campaign trail when I was running for region.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
I think it was.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
But you know, just maybe looking at some candidates that
are out of the box, that are showing signs of
doing things differently, and maybe they have.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
A great social media following.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
That's why Britta is having Aaron come to the Capitol
Club meeting next week the seventeenth. You should really come
check her out or check follow her on TikTok. It's
Liberty and Logic. I think is her following or her handle.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
She's an unaffiliated.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
Voter, but very conservative, and she knocks it out of
the park on socially. She has a great way of
messaging things and she's shown us the way, and we
got to find bright lights like that to do things
differently in this coming election. All right, Ryan, I've rambled
on a lot in this segment. We're going to come
back and ramble a little bit more with your help

(27:58):
and talk about how we can win in twenty six.
This isol filling in for Dan Capless. We'll see you
after the break.

Speaker 4 (28:04):
And now back to the Dan Kapless Show podcast.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
Ryan, you are so good at catching these songs ramble
on after I was rambling on.

Speaker 4 (28:14):
Yeah, you got it. You're so flooney, very quick.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
All right, This is Hidigan All I filled in for
Jan Capless today. I wanted to finish up by giving
you the correct handle for logic and liberty Logic and
liberty at on TikTok. She has one hundred and forty
thousand followers. She's right here in Colorado. Check her out.
Also check out Isabelle Brown, our own Colorado girl, has
a new platform with Daily Wire.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
Go check her out.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
She's got a new show, articles, a great article on motherhood,
and of course my daughter Torriganol is doing the Mountain
Minute every day in ninety second video. The news of
the day can find out on Rocky Mountain Voice. There's
some young up and comers you can follow and get
the news and get a different perspective.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
Very very important to do.

Speaker 5 (28:55):
I think I think of Tori and that generation when
you brought up the point going into the last break
and how important it is to reach people where they
are and how they listen. For instance, with this radio show,
a lot of people do listen over the air still,
but there are a lot of people that consume media
in different ways now, so they'll listen to the podcast
version of today's program, and so the younger people are
moving in that direction. Similarly, you mentioned TikTok or Instagram

(29:18):
or Facebook or x or any of these other platforms
that had that viral moment.

Speaker 4 (29:22):
And even though.

Speaker 5 (29:24):
Mumbani or Mumdani rather in New York City, he had
a very strong online presence. He's very online, very viral
with videos and things. It doesn't really matter what he
was saying, communist bunk, but people were kind of catching
on to what he picking up what he's putting down.
You know, he's young, he's a good looking guy, he's energetic.
I think you got to have somebody who has that

(29:44):
kind of force of personality, can convey it in a
meaningful way, can connect with people on that level.

Speaker 4 (29:50):
That's not just nuts and bolts.

Speaker 5 (29:52):
Issue was oriented, although I think those are still important,
but you got to get people's attention and how do
you do that? And I think there's just newer that
we got to update ourselves in the Republican Party to
find those new avenues.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
Yeah, to wrap this up, a Yale youth poll was
just done. There's an eighteen point partisan gap between younger
and older members of Generation Z. So voters age twenty
two to twenty nine favored Democrat candidates in the twenty
six mid terms by six point four points, while those
aged eighteen to twenty one favored Republicans by a margin
of almost twelve points.

Speaker 4 (30:25):
Isn't that remarkable?

Speaker 3 (30:26):
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
So we've got to engage those eighteen to twenty one
year olds in a big, big way because they're going
to vote our way, even in Colorado. So that's a
tip for Britet I know she's listening, and for those
of us working to turn this state around. It's eighteen
to twenty one year olds that favor Republicans by a
margin of eleven point seven points. And we do that
on social media by having great fun events, making it

(30:50):
fun to be a conservative again, by talking about conservative
conservation and the environment, like acc dot Eco, the American
Conservation Coalition, eighty thousand members of young people across the country.
There's all kinds of new ways to engage young people.
We've got to stay on top of that. That's the
most important thing I think we can do in the

(31:11):
Republican Party here in Colorado to secure our future here
and to wake people up to vote differently.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
But Ryan, it's been a pleasure being with you today.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
I'm I had a lot of fun talking about all
kinds of things, and thank you for tolerating my jet lag.

Speaker 4 (31:25):
How bad is it?

Speaker 3 (31:27):
It's okay.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
A few times I've said things, I'm like, is that
my mouth connecting.

Speaker 7 (31:31):
To my.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
In fact, somebody texted, don't say see you after the break.

Speaker 5 (31:36):
I'm well, you'll see me. But yeah, that's that's actually
a good point.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
I guess amateur hour here with him.

Speaker 5 (31:42):
No no, no, no, no, just a nitpicking picking of nits.

Speaker 3 (31:45):
That's okay.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
That's how we get better. We nit nitpick, right, But
what are you up to this weekend?

Speaker 1 (31:51):
Ryan?

Speaker 3 (31:51):
You do anything fun?

Speaker 7 (31:52):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (31:52):
Kind of still in search mode.

Speaker 5 (31:54):
There's some music festivals and stuff going around in the area.
I think Long Month's got one going long but yeah,
and I'm not the one throwing it down.

Speaker 4 (32:04):
But yeah. Going with Christian Toto to a rodeo tonight.

Speaker 6 (32:08):
Nice.

Speaker 4 (32:08):
Not in the springs. Yeah, I guess you have roots.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
I do have roots in El Paso County. I'm a
monument garrel. Yeah, okay, we did a little bit of rodeo.
We had a lot of kids at school that were
really into the rodeo because it was black forest and
kind of rural El Paso County. It was a lot
of fun and I think one of my favorite things
is a see you regent was to go to the
stock show and they would let us ride around in
that stagecoach waving to people, and it was perilous, like

(32:37):
the state.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
They go really fast and it almost tipped over a
couple of times.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
But I love going to the stock Show, the rodeo there,
and my kids loved mutton busting.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
You know that that's.

Speaker 5 (32:46):
They're advertising that at this very event, which is the
Pike's Peak or bus. Sounds like there's a lot on
the line rodeo down in the springs, and they mentioned
what you just said, Mutt.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
It's really fun.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
It's like they keep the little kids on sheep. I
hope I'm saying that right, and they just hold on
for dear life and they go racing across until they
fall off and get trampled.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
Sounds dangerous and a child that I know I will live.
I will never name names. Was deepants in front of
the whole by the sheep. Oh no, I know it
was bad.

Speaker 4 (33:17):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
All right, Well, I'm headed to d C. I'll be back.
I'm going to the board meeting for American.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
Conservation Coalition, so we're having a full day board meeting
on Friday and doing some other meetings while i'm there.
And then I'm headed to Saint Louis to see my
father in law, who I love dearly and help him
with some doctor's appointments.

Speaker 5 (33:34):
So I'll be back on You probably already know this.
Then you know where you got to go when you.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
Go to Saint Louis Cardinals game.

Speaker 4 (33:40):
No Ted drews oh I love Ted Drew.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
The custard Is.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
It's probably better than the gelato in Italy, which we
ate so much.

Speaker 4 (33:51):
May I offer another recommendation, Saint Louis. This is where
my grandfather once lived long ago.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
Pappies, I love pap alright, I'm not telling anything rightist
to Pappies.

Speaker 4 (34:01):
Every time we say, you know, with GQ and all that.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
Funny about Saint Louis, they all talk about where they
went to high school.

Speaker 4 (34:09):
They do still.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
Yes, if you meet somebody from Saint Louis, because my
husband's from there, they say, oh, where'd you go to
high school? Or they say, oh, I'm I lived in
so so, I went to Webster Groves.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
And you're like, okay, I don't know anything about.

Speaker 4 (34:21):
Yeah, that's not compute, no.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
No, but it's it's a great town. Saint Louis has
amazing food.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
Our favorite is a place called Ferrados in rock Hill
and they have the very thin pizza.

Speaker 4 (34:33):
Now is rock Hill? I don't know if I can
say this.

Speaker 5 (34:36):
They call it the Hill now and I'm just going
to say, Yogie Barrows from there and Joe Garagiola Hall
of Fame Baseball Players it was called. Now this is
just what it's called tech messenger Daego.

Speaker 3 (34:45):
Hill, Oh jeez, are you are you gonna get candled?

Speaker 5 (34:48):
I think I am. That's what they called it. And
it was like a bunch of Italian restaurants. And you know,
I'm a Serb. I'm a little swarthy person, so I
think I you know, but that's what it was called.

Speaker 4 (34:59):
Are you from the you're with this? Asked Jason about it.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
No, I'll ask Jesus.

Speaker 5 (35:02):
Definitely some Italian restaurants there that you want to They
just call it the Hill.

Speaker 4 (35:05):
Now that's why I got confused. What hill did you say?

Speaker 1 (35:08):
Rock?

Speaker 4 (35:08):
Hill?

Speaker 3 (35:08):
Rocks the name of the neighborhood Rock.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
It's the neighborhood Webster Groves High School or Brentwood High School.

Speaker 4 (35:13):
I asked Jason about what I mentioned there.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
Okay, I will, I will, Okay, Thanks Ryan, thanks for
putting up with me. I really appreciate my time with
you today. We had a lot of great conversation and
have a wonderful week you as well.
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