Dan sticks around for one more segment past 1am in Switzerland, then hands back off to Heidi Ganhal in her debut appearance in a hosting role.
Heidi and Ryan discuss the unintentional comedy of Kamala Harris as the presumptive Democrat nominee, but Heidi cautions against overconfidence and stresses everyone must do the work necessary to help get Donald Trump across the finish line as the winner.
Heidi and Ryan discuss the unintentional comedy of Kamala Harris as the presumptive Democrat nominee, but Heidi cautions against overconfidence and stresses everyone must do the work necessary to help get Donald Trump across the finish line as the winner.
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This is Dan Caples and welcome totoday's online podcast edition of The Dan Caplis
Show. Please be sure to giveus a five star rating if you'd be
so kind, and to subscribe,download and listen to the show every single
day on your favorite podcast platform.Let's get one thing straight right out of
the gate. Okay, I amnot here to say I told you so.
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I'm actually here to have a secondhoneymoon with my wife. We've been
married thirty years. It's one inthe morning where I am. We're our
week away to celebrate our thirtieth anniversary, and Heidi ganall kind enough to fill
in this week and also kind enoughto allow me to join in during this
moment of history. And it's whata moment it is, Heidi. I
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mean, my lord, think aboutthe situation we're in, and you know,
I've been predicting it for a yearand a half that Joe Biden would
be throwing overboard. That that wasn'ta tough prediction to make, but look
at where it leaves America and thenwhere it leaves America. On the heels
of this attempt to assassinate the leadingcandidate for president and the Biden administration obviously
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leaving President Trump woefully unprotected and nowstonewalling Congress as it tries to get more
information on that. On the verysame day where there are very legitimate president
questions as to whether we have atall a functional president, his letter saying
that he's no longer the nominee seekingthe nomination isn't even written on White House
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stationary and apparently reportedly has a digitalsignature. You know what in hades is
going on? So just a verycrazy, chaotic, scary kind of moment
for America right now. And then, you know, I am convinced,
and Heidi, tell me if there'sany flaw in this logic. I think
there's one thing we can be absolutelysure of, as sure as we could
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be a year and a half ago, that Biden would not be the nominee,
and that is Joe Biden wants KamalaHarris to lose. And if Kamala
Harris is not the Demina, ifit's Michelle Obama or Hillary Clinton or somebody
else, he wants them to lose. Two, Joe Biden wants Barack Obama
and all the people who just ranhim out of a second term. He
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wants them to be proven wrong.He wants Biden wants to be proven right.
Is there any doubt Heidi? Hewants the Democrat candidate to lose.
And I think endorsing Kamala Harris wasa big step in that direction. I
agree, Dan, And I wouldask also, what is the endgame for
Biden? Is he going to stayas president or is he going to resign?
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I think that's the next step inthis questioning, because where is Joe
Biden right now? And when ishe going to appear on camera? Who's
running the country right now? Whywas Joe Biden removed at the end of
the day after saying he would neverleave, like literally the morning the morning
this happened, he said he wasnot going anywhere and his campaign said that.
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So what happened to change that?And where is he? And who
is running our country? Yeah?Yeah, And you think about the obvious,
clear and present danger to our nationalsecurity of having Biden at best,
in this extraordinarily weakened and cognitively deficientstate. But now with this added layer
of mystery and this weird letter andeverything else. You know, enemies certainly,
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and Lord knows Americas some of themost evil enemies in world. History
enemies. Certainly at this point seeAmerica as as leaderless because constitutionally we only
have one commander in chief and thatperson is nowhere to be found right now.
So an amazing time. But we'relooking ahead this afternoon. Glad you're
with us, Hidig and all againtaking the show. I'll be gone after
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this segment because again it's like oneoh eight in the morning here and Heidi,
tomorrow morning at eight am, weare on our way up to what
they call the top of Europe.They say it's the highest mountaintop in Europe.
I don't think it is. Ithink that's I think that's some sort
of tourism fabrication here. But we'llbe up there early in the morning.
So thank you for taking the showtoday, but focusing on what comes next.
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You tell me something you know JaredPolus, Well, you had the
courage to take him on. Youwhooped them in every debate. So why
does Polus, who's so obviously anglingright now for some kind of role in
a Harris administration if there is one, and maybe even holds out delusions of
being a VP, why did hetweet out a congratulatory message to her that
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included an emoji of a coconut anda palm tree when she's being mocked,
Ryan, can you tee that up? I think it's twenty one she's being
roundly mocked for her infamous coconut treeriff. Ryan, Can you play that?
Do you think you just fell outof a coconut tree? You exists
in the context of all in whichyou live and what came before you.
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Now, Heidi, why did Lesdo that? Perhaps because he's not angling
to be vice president. Perhaps he'sbeen angling to be the presidential candidate instead.
I don't know. I mean,he has done so many weird tweets
lately, and half the time I'mlike, is I well, he says
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he hasn't tried that, but Idon't know. There's something odd going on
with him. But he is soarrogant, Dan. You know this.
He believes he can do anything,and I do think he's absolutely running in
twenty twenty eight. So whatever anglehe's going to take right now is just
teeing him up to be the presidentialnominee at that point, which I think
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is laughable after what he's done toour beautiful state. And I will be
his number one The pitbull going afterhim his number one agitator. If he
decides to do that and display forthe world how terrible he's run Colorado,
I'm happy to play that role.Wow. Well, I've got to tell
you, I don't how, giventhe identity politics framework of the Democratic Party,
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how openly mocking Kamala Harris with thecoconut and palm tree emoji gets him
anywhere. So that's why I don'tbelieve that's what he was attempting to do.
I think, in his own stilted, weird kind of way, he
thought he was being funny or something. But again, you have actually debated
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him, and you defeated him ineach of those debates, So I thought,
you know, I've got to deferto your insight on that. Well,
thanks Dan. I do think you'reright. He thinks he's very funny.
He thinks he's very emotionally intelligent.And that's how I was able to
kind of catch him off guard insome of the debates because we knew that
about him. We knew that washis achilles heel. And so I think
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you're right. I think I don'tthink he's intentionally mocking or I think he's
being cutesy but at the end ofthe day, he wants power, he
wants control. He doesn't give ahoot about Kamala Harris or her winning the
presidency, and he's going to angleto do whatever is advantageous for him in
his political future. But Dan,I think with Kamala Harris, I think
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we have to be a little bitcareful. I don't think we should be
critical of her for kind of thecomments that she's made or the ridiculous things
that she's done, as much aswe should be critical for her policy.
I mean she, oh, yeah, raised money for a bail fund for
rioters in the BLM days in twentytwenty, she was in charge of the
border and handling the border. Well, look how well that's gone. I
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think we've got to stay pretty disciplined. And Trump should too, on just
beating her up on the issues andthe policies and how she's run the country
or helped run the country as vicepresident. Yeah, and I get what
you're saying, because I do thinkit's very important to show the American people
how crazy far left she is,you know, because I think the only
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way Biden was able to never beTrump a COVID. But b Biden was
able to pull off this con thathe was some kind of moderate, and
he had that facade right, youknow, uh, you know, lunch
pail Joe garbage and all that phoniness. But with Kamala Harris, you know,
obviously she grew up in hard,hard, far far left California politics
and and then she moved further leftfrom there. So there is so much
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to work with on the policy frontthat America isn't even aware of yet.
On the other hand, heidi,as long as it's done respectfully and in
a way that's that's not honestly misinterpreted. I do think it's fair game to
point out that she's not a heavyweightand and that she doesn't have the gravitas
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for this job, and that ourenemies across the world will not take her
seriously. I think it has tobe done just the right way, you
know. I President Trump has hisown unique way of branding people and exposing
that, so I would expect bothto be in play going forward. I
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think it's going to be wild andif you'll allow me, because I know
we're up against a heard break andthen I'm going to turn it over to
you, and you're tremendously capable hands. But just a couple of quick points,
if you don't mind that, I'dlike to get out there. Obviously
saw this coming a long time ago, right that that Biden would not be
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the nominating I've been saying for along time it's going to get tougher for
Trump now because Biden was as closeto a layup as you're going to get,
since he wasn't functional, and Trumpwas beating him so soundly to begin
with. So yeah, I fullyexpect we're going to see a spike in
the polls, some not all,And in some polls Kamala Harris will go
ahead, et cetera. And andyou know, it might be good for
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all of us not to be overconfident, and everybody works harder and does
more for President Trump. But butbut I think in the end, boy,
Heidi, they've got a nominee whodid not get a single vote.
She did not get a single votefor president primary process right for president.
We all know this, this istrue. If there had been an open
primary, well, she wouldn't bethe DEM nominee. I don't think there's
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anybody who believes she would be theDEM nominee. So you compare that with
that and the lack of credibility theDems now have because they were all part
of covering up, you know,Biden's incapacity. They were all part of
covering that up. I think it'sgoing to cost them credibility with a lot
of people in the middle. Icome back to its President Trump's to lose
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after his heroic reaction to the assassinationattempt. I think it's going to be
very, very hard to beat him. But that's my quick take. And
again, Heidi, thank you forfilling in and doing the show. I
know we're going to do a bitmore tomorrow and I'll look forward to that.
Well. Thanks Dan. You know, I do believe that President Trump
has a handle on this, likeI trust him to know how to approach
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the issues with Kamala and to goafter her in the right way. So
I'm certainly not an expert there.I just want there's so much material to
go after her on, and soI think I think we've just got to
be measured about it, and youknow, not turn off suburban women and
kind of go after things that couldbe thought of as sexist or you know,
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I don't know. I just havethis fear about that. No,
and I think you're right in mylast fifteen seconds. You know, I
think jd. Vance can go afterharder than Trump. Trump has this elevated
status now following his heroism, andI hope they figure that mix out.
Well, I'm sure they will.Back in a flash, Hidigan All filling
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in for Dan Caplis on the DanCapitlis Show and now back to the Dan
Taplas Show podcast. But if youwant to run for president, you've got
to make your case to voters,and make your case to voters. That's
what President Trump did, even thoughhe would have already been the president,
even though he was by far themost popular person in the Republican Party,
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he ran for the Republican presidential nomination. He faced some good competition, and
he made his case to voters theidea of selecting the Democrat Party's nominee.
Because George Soros and Barack Obama anda couple of elite Democrats got in a
smoke filled room and decided to throwJoe Biden overboard. That is not how
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it works. That is a threatto democracy, not the Republican Party,
which is fighting for democracy every singleday, fighting for democracy. You know,
we're at such an odd, odd, terrible place in history. Nine
days ago, Donald Trump was nearlykilled by a gunman on live TV.
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Yesterday, the President, who hasnot been seen in almost a week,
quit his reelection bid with a poston Twitter X. And the media is
pretending like nothing's going on, andthe Democrats are pretending like they are all
about democracy still. Now. Thatwas Jadie Vance, our new vice president
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candidate, and I just got backfrom the RNC a few nights ago,
got to see his speech. Itwas awesome and the crowd loved it.
They were fully, fully supportive ofjd Vance as the vice president pick.
That happened a couple days into theconvention and we got to know the family
a bit better through some speeches.His beautiful wife got up Usha and introduced
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him and talked about their family andwhat she loved about Jadie Vance. I
do think jd Vance is going toscare the Democrats a bit. I mean
if they take out Donald Trump,not literally, I mean hopefully that doesn't
happen ever again that there's an attempton his life, but if they try
and take out Donald Trump somehow asthe president, they've got Jade Vance to
deal with, and that's I mean, that's hardcore. JD is serious.
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He's serious. He got attacked theother day for anti woke language, and
he took it as a badge ofhonor and tweeted out how proud he was
that they were saying that about him. It'll be really interesting to see who
Kamala Harris chooses as her vice presidentpick. I just saw some information on
X that Mark Kelly in Arizona isone of the top contenders. Also Jos
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Shapiro in Pennsylvania. Jared Poulis wouldlike to think he is. I don't
think he has a chance, especiallywhen he kind of I don't know,
he messed up a little bit withthat tweet with the coconut emoji. I
think, Ryan, what do youthink that was wild? He's been doing
some weird stuff on there lately,hasn't he. Yes, I mean some
of the stuff. You don't knowif he's really, like, if he's
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mocking us, or if he's serious. And so you got to kind of
be careful how you react to it. You got to let things play out
a little bit. But I aboutthe one where you said my smart friends
with high IQ's don't use Twitter xcrazy. That was crazy, And here
Elon bought Twitter. One of thesmartest men on the planet. I think
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I'm hoping and I'm thinking that shemight go with Mark Kelly, the astronaut
in Arizona. I'm going to tellyou what that reminds me of, almost
exactly Tim Kin with Hillary Clinton,meaning it doesn't move the needle at all.
They think it does because he's awhite guy from a swing state,
but really isn't going to do herany good. And I don't see anyone
else, Hidi, maybe you canspeak to this. Having run in a
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campaign, I think highly up interms of respect of Governor Josh Shapiro Pennsylvania.
I think he's a real up andcomer. And if i'm him or
I'm an advisor to him, likeyou don't go anywhere near that radioactive waste
site, We'll wait for twenty twentyeight. What do you think? I
agree? And here's the thing.I was helping a scholarships for the last
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year with their school choice movement.They're an incredible nonprofit and one thing that
we were really disappointed in was whenhe was elected governor. In the election,
he had said that he was goingto go all in on school choice,
right, I remember that, andthen he renigged. He totally changed
his position and disappointed so many familiesand children accost across the state of Pennsylvania.
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So I hope that if he isthe vice president candidate, that people
take that to the bank. Andthen there's the whole They have this identity
politics matrix, Heidi, that theyreally got to twist themselves in a pretzel
to navigate because okay, if theychoose Shapiro, well, guess what,
he's Jewish, and that's not goingto play in Dearborn or Minneapolis. And
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now they got to worry are theygoing to lose Michigan or Minnesota because they've
got to run the table in theupper Midwest their Heidi, the Democrats,
the way the map is now,with Trump picking up Nevada and you would
presume North Carolina, Georgia, Arizona, they've got to win every one of
these three Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin. So what is the solution to that
puzzle for them? I don't know, But we had such an incredible convention
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in Milwaukee and Wisconsin that I don'tthink Wassconsin's going to walk away from that
thinking, Oh, the Republicans don'tknow what they're doing. The people there
were so kind, amazing, andthis is really cool. Ryan. They
brought in police officers and sheriffs andstate patrolman from all over the country.
So we actually got to hang outwith seven or eight state patrolman from Colorado
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that we're there helping to protect us. But you know, that convention was
like once in a lifetime. Itwas so energetic, and you know,
honestly, we've got forty six daysuntil North Carolina starts early voting. That's
the first state. Forty six daysfor Kamala Harris to build her brand,
to get a vice president candidate,to build his brand or her brand,
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whatever she picks, and to reallygo up against Donald Trump, who has
so much momentum right now, somuch momentum. But here's the thing,
We've got to keep on it.We can't let our guards down. The
media is already trying to put theassassination attempt behind us, So we've got
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to keep on it. You hearme, Republicans, And I'm going to
tell you how to do that afterthe next break. This is Heidi Ganal
filling in for Dan Kaplis. We'llsee you in just a minute. You're
listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcastJourney, one of my favorite bands.
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I'm an eighties kid, but sothis is Heidi Ganal. I am filling
in for Dan Kaplis, who's celebratinghis thirtieth wedding anniversary in Switzerland. Hope
Dan and Amy have a wonderful timethere. You know, I am blessed
to have a great friend named GregoryCarlson. He is the parliamentarian for the
state GOP, but he also wason the rules committee at the Republican National
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Convention. Gregory, welcome to theshow. Thank you so much, Heidi.
It's great to be here with you. And what a crazy news cycle
it's been in the last few days, I know. And we were both
at the RNC, staying up latelate at night with the whole Colorado crew
talk tucking and kind of digesting theactivities of the day. And we come
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back and all heck breaks loose.Basically, Biden decides he's stepping out of
the race. Kamala Harris is thecandidate now, and so many people are
saying, how the heck do theydo this logistically? How do they do
this? And I've been asked thatover and over again, and I'm like,
I know just the man for thejob. For the conversation, So,
Gregory, you know more about therules and procedures when it comes to
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politics than anybody else I know.So I'd like to ask you first.
There's two scenarios. One is thatBiden drops out as president and then Kamala
becomes president. How does that work? But the first issue I want you
to talk about is how on earthdo they replace Biden as the candidate at
the convention and keep a tight gripon everything so that it doesn't get out
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of control. What does that looklike? Well, it's a great question,
and I want you to know I'vespent several hours out of curiosity pouring
over the rules of the Democrat NationalCommittee, because oftentimes these vacancy rules are
overlooked until they're really needed. AndI think a little history will help explain
what I think the leaders of theDemocrat Party are going to do. In
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nineteen twenty four, it took onehundred and three rounds of voting at a
convention to get John Davis over thefinish line, who was then totally defeated
by President Calvin Coolidge. A littlebit more recently, in nineteen eighty,
Jimmy Carter was challenged by Senator TedKennedy to try to get delegates. The
effort failed and Carter was stomped byRonald Reagan, who became president. And
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of course, in nineteen sixty eight, you had President Lyndon Johnson, he
exited because Vietnam. Hubert Humphrey isvice president, didn't really compete. Bobby
Kennedy, who had been assassinated,had some delegates. Humphrey head delegates.
You Kane McCarthy had delegates, andas everybody knows, that were competing flights
and it all turned to chaos andends up losing that election as well.
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Bottom line is you're probably seeing atheme. When there's a divided convention,
it tends to not go well forthat candidate. And so that's why you're
seeing Vice President Karala Harris probably pullingall nighters, locking as many delegates as
she can, and according to theAssociated Press, she's about halfway there,
just over one thousand pledged delegates.Because the thing is now that President Biden
is out of the race. Thosepeople are free to vote for who they
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want to. And I think it'sgoing to have a couple of rules I
can share it with you that Ithink will make this it's not over yet,
it might make this very interesting.Okay, So one of the interesting
things we noted today was that previousPresident Obama has not endorsed Kamala. Now,
Pelosi did come out and do it. I don't know about Jeffreys and
Schuber maybe you've heard by now,but he called for an open convention.
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So what does that mean? Whatdoes that look like? Well, it's
really interesting because the Democrat Party isa lot less of a grassroots party than
the Republican Party because almost a fifthof their delegates are super delegates, meaning
there because of their position either incong or somewhere else in the party,
whereas the Republicans have far fewer superdelegates, which I think is interesting. However,
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the super delegates are not allowed tovote until the second ballots, so
on the first ballot, only pledgeddelegates can vote, but now they have
nobody that they're pledged to. Andhere's the rule. It takes three hundred
signatures from delegates to get a newcandidate on the ballot, which is not
an impossible threshold. So if youget three hundred delegates and fifty no more
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than fifty can come from one state, you could potentially see a challenge to
Kamala Harris in the roll call.One other thing I think is worth interesting
is worth pointing out, is thatup until this point you've seen seven hundred
thousand Democrat voters votes uncommitted. Rememberback in Michigan and in some of these
states where the voters are unhappy withlike, for example, the war between
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Israel and Hamas, and they're nothappy with how the administration is handling that.
So you're seeing big sweeps of voterssay that they're not supportive of the
current ticket. It will be interestingto see how I think you're going to
see some conversations with some delegates comingup saying, Hey, you know what,
I'm actually not going to vote forthis. I'm now free to vote
how I want. Three hundred isthe magic number to make a serious new
candidate come along. Got it?Okay? So back to the other scenario.
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There are reports that President Biden isvery very ill and that he may
be stepping down. It's the Twitter'sthe wild West. Like I said before,
we don't know until we know.But if that happens, what happens
next? And I mean logistically,does that change the DNC? I don't
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believe. So what will be interestingis because it is a much bigger problem
for the candidate to drop out afterthe convention because then you're starting to run
into state deadlines about whether or notyou're going to be on the ballots.
But technically President Biden is not thenominee yet because they haven't had their convention,
even though he's the incumbent. Whatwill be really interesting to see,
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and so for the listeners out there, what will be really interesting to see
is if they continue to have thisAugust virtual vote, because if they push
to try to have this August virtualvote, what that signifies is they want
They're doing this because of a kerfufflein Ohio. But bottom line is if
they continue with this virtual vote,it's going to be to try to get
Kamala Harris as the nominee so thattheir convention can just be one big celebration
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of her. However, if theypush the electronic vote, it could be
signs that there's some trouble brewing andthat there might be some delegates upset about
some of President Biden's policies who mightbe looking for some protest votes and some
protest candidates to look forward, becauseagain, all the delegates are now uncommitted,
and as you know, it canbe even though they've been nominated,
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the DNC rules are pretty lax,and they now that they're they're uncommitted.
I think, you know, everybody'sgoing to try to get unity real quickly,
but there's enough time between now andthe convention. I think there's still
can a chance for something interesting tohappen with the convention. Got it,
Greg? What was your favorite Whowas your favorite speaker at the RNC who
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really made an impact on you?You know, that World War two veteran
was just incredible, But to behonest, the ones that made me the
most emotional was whenever the friends andfamily of the soldiers who died in Afghanistan
or the people who've lost ones atSentinel. Those are really impactful because the
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theme was you're hearing speeches from trueeveryday Americans and that couldn't have been more
appropriate, you know, And thoseare the ones that really got to me
were because you know, it wasnice to hear all the speeches from all
the elected officials, of course,but I really noticed there was an effort
for everyday Americans to speak at theconvention, and they had some of the
most emotional impact. I thought,yeah, I agree with you. Sergeant
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William Peckrel I believe was his name, and my favorite line from him was
if Donald Trump is the nominee,or you know, once he's the nominee,
if he becomes elected president, Iwill re enlist. And here's this
ninety eight year old, incredible veteranfrom World War Two saying you'll re enlist.
I thought that was so cute.I also really enjoyed seeing Kai Trump,
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Donald Trump Junior's daughter get up andtalk about her grandpa and tell the
stories. I think that was reallyreally cool. I agree, I agree.
It was an amazing convention. Ilearned a lot, and just to
go back to the DNC for amoment. I believe the leaders of the
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DNC will make a big mistake ifthey try to change the rules to force
everybody to vote for Kamala Harris insome way. It was only recently that
the super was twenty eighteen, whenthe super delegates were no longer allowed to
vote on the first ballots. AndI could be wrong, but I believe
that Bernie Sanders had a role inthat because they're trying to make the party
more grassroots. If they tried toto really change their rules to accommodate this
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change, I think it will backfireon them and you might see more and
more delegates protesting, and so'll befascinating to watch. The thing to keep
an eye on is that August rollcall vote virtual to see if that happens
or not, or what that lookslike. What's the date of that?
Do you know? Greg, Ido not know. I think it's around
the seventeenth. I could be wrong, but it's around around that data I
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think. Well, Greg Gray Carlson, thank you so much for all you
do for Colorado. You're a warriorout on the front lines and really appreciate
your input and have you educate uson how this is going to work.
This is Heidi Ganal filling in forDan Kaplis. We're going to take a
quick break and come back and talkmore about all things politics and now back
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to the Dan Tapliss Show podcast.You stated earlier Secret Service is not political.
Is that correct? Yes, Okay, would you say leaking your opening
statement to punch Fall News, Politico'sPlaybook, and Washington Post several hours before
you sent it to this committee asbeing political? Yes or no? I
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have no idea how my statement gotout. Well, that's bullshit. Representative
Nancy Mace from South Carolina. Shewas a big hit at the RNC too,
But she says it all, doesn'tshe. It feels like so much
of what we're dealing with is justthat I won't say it. Well,
will you make of her? She'skind of evolved. I would say,
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from what I would consider to bea moderate Republican that was pretty wishy,
washy, middle of the road.Suddenly she's like, you know, Mel
Gibson, brave heart, fears proTrump, maga. Right. I think
if you saw me at the RNC, you might say the same thing.
Right. We said a good time, Oh my gosh, we're just fired
up. But you know, weneed people to be brave right now,
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right, and we've got to getpeople to be more courageous about speaking out.
It was like at the convention andit was this kind of cool theme
that they were giving people permission tosay. I didn't used to support Trump.
I didn't used to like him,but I do now. Whether it
was Amber Rose who did an incrediblespeech, I know there's lots of mixed
feelings about her being up there,and then Jade Vance, he was not
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a fan of Trump in the beginningand now he's all in. There was
just one after the other after theother like that, and I truly think
they were giving people the green lightto say it's cool now to like Trump.
And that's how it felt well forme being from Michigan to see Sean
O'Brien, the Teamsters President there ata Republican convention. I mean, it
just defied all the old stereotypes aboutthe Republican Party. And that was across
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the board. Heidie, you werethere, the pop culture, the Hulk,
Hogan, the Kid Rock. Itwas fun. It made it look
like it was fun to be aRepublican. It was fun to be a
Republican. And I've been saying thatmy whole campaign. I know, you
remember, like, we've got tomake it fun to be a Republican again.
And that's one of my goals inColorado and with Rocky Mountain Voice,
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is to get people engaged, notjust online because it is. It's an
online, unabashably center right conservative newsplatform. But it's also about building community
and getting out there and hosting funrallies and events and getting people together to
have conversation. And that's one ofthe most important things I think we can
shift in Colorado to get the conservativemovement going again. Well, you will
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have this to contend with at theDemocratic National Convention coming up in just under
a month. I think this mightbe fun. I'll stop the madness.
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You're going to give our listeners aheadache. She's such a loon. Oh
my gosh, oh wow, Wow. That was so I got inspired when
I saw her do that sit downinterview. This from a few years ago
now with O'Donnell. What's her firstname? She does the CBS News.
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Yeah, I know who you're talkingabout, kimber Kelly O'Donnell. But anyway,
they're gonna shot at us anyway.So she it's on sixty minutes and
she just does this uncomfortable laugh atthe most inappropriate, inopportune times, and
it's this lack of credibility that itgoes to, and it syncopated. It
matched up perfectly. That is theend of the nineteen eighty nine Batman scene
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where Jack Nicholson is the joker,falls from the top of the building and
he's got that laughing kind of toyon his lapel and it keeps laughing even
after he's dead, And it waslike perfectly synced up and really freaking me
out. It should freak you out. Can you imagine her as our president,
oh, being at the un ortalking to a world leader and just
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breaking out in that laugh. Well, Heidi, and again you mentioned this
earlier. I think you're right,and Mandy's right. We don't want to
make this look like a misogynist,sexist attack. But she is not a
serious person. I mean, regardlessof gender. You watch her, she's
like a caricature. She's like VeepJulia Luis Japhas, She's that character.
He's not a serious person. She'snot really deep in terms of knowledge or
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intellect. She's got that laugh thatjust comes out and you can't just picture
it if you're a middle of theroad voter. Can I picture her at
a summit, head to head negotiatingwith Vladimir Putin or Kim Jong un or
Jijenping. You can see Donald Trumpdoing it, because he did it and
he'll do it again. I mean, I feel strongly that he's going to
take charge of these fires burning allover our world pretty quick. And I
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know his speech got mixed reviews becauseit was long, but to be there
and wait five days to hear fromhim, it was actually kind of cool.
It was like a conversation with thecrowd. It felt very comfortable.
It was like a back and forth, and it was really effective for the
delegates there, the fifty thousand peoplethat were in the audience to have that
conversation with him and to hear whathe wants to do, how he wants
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to approach his next term. ButI'll tell you what, Ryan, I
want to finish up by telling people, this is go time, Like,
you can't get complacent, you can'tget over confident. We've all got to
go all in to win this electionin the fall. And there's a couple
of ways you can do that.Obviously, you can get engaged by knocking
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on doors, making phone calls,text messages, sending postcards. That's another
thing you can do from the couch. There's a really easy app, turning
Point Action tpee action app. It'sfree, it's got all the voter data
rolled into it. You can doit from your couch. It's really really
easy to use, so you cando that where you can get involved in
your church. Lots of the churchesare creating church impact teams and getting a
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little bit more political. I wouldstrongly suggest you talk to your pastor about
that, have him read Letter tothe American Church. And then finally,
be bold, speak out, digout that maga hat that make America great
again had put it on. Bebrave, take the flack, and know
that it is now cool to bea Republican again. This is Heidiknal tapping
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out for Dan Kaplis. We'll seeit tomorrow.
This is Dan Caples and welcome totoday's online podcast edition of The Dan Caplis
Show. Please be sure to giveus a five star rating if you'd be
so kind, and to subscribe,download and listen to the show every single
day on your favorite podcast platform.Let's get one thing straight right out of
the gate. Okay, I amnot here to say I told you so.
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I'm actually here to have a secondhoneymoon with my wife. We've been
married thirty years. It's one inthe morning where I am. We're our
week away to celebrate our thirtieth anniversary, and Heidi ganall kind enough to fill
in this week and also kind enoughto allow me to join in during this
moment of history. And it's whata moment it is, Heidi. I
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mean, my lord, think aboutthe situation we're in, and you know,
I've been predicting it for a yearand a half that Joe Biden would
be throwing overboard. That that wasn'ta tough prediction to make, but look
at where it leaves America and thenwhere it leaves America. On the heels
of this attempt to assassinate the leadingcandidate for president and the Biden administration obviously
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leaving President Trump woefully unprotected and nowstonewalling Congress as it tries to get more
information on that. On the verysame day where there are very legitimate president
questions as to whether we have atall a functional president, his letter saying
that he's no longer the nominee seekingthe nomination isn't even written on White House
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stationary and apparently reportedly has a digitalsignature. You know what in hades is
going on? So just a verycrazy, chaotic, scary kind of moment
for America right now. And then, you know, I am convinced,
and Heidi, tell me if there'sany flaw in this logic. I think
there's one thing we can be absolutelysure of, as sure as we could
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be a year and a half ago, that Biden would not be the nominee,
and that is Joe Biden wants KamalaHarris to lose. And if Kamala
Harris is not the Demina, ifit's Michelle Obama or Hillary Clinton or somebody
else, he wants them to lose. Two, Joe Biden wants Barack Obama
and all the people who just ranhim out of a second term. He
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wants them to be proven wrong.He wants Biden wants to be proven right.
Is there any doubt Heidi? Hewants the Democrat candidate to lose.
And I think endorsing Kamala Harris wasa big step in that direction. I
agree, Dan, And I wouldask also, what is the endgame for
Biden? Is he going to stayas president or is he going to resign?
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I think that's the next step inthis questioning, because where is Joe
Biden right now? And when ishe going to appear on camera? Who's
running the country right now? Whywas Joe Biden removed at the end of
the day after saying he would neverleave, like literally the morning the morning
this happened, he said he wasnot going anywhere and his campaign said that.
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So what happened to change that?And where is he? And who
is running our country? Yeah?Yeah, And you think about the obvious,
clear and present danger to our nationalsecurity of having Biden at best,
in this extraordinarily weakened and cognitively deficientstate. But now with this added layer
of mystery and this weird letter andeverything else. You know, enemies certainly,
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and Lord knows Americas some of themost evil enemies in world. History
enemies. Certainly at this point seeAmerica as as leaderless because constitutionally we only
have one commander in chief and thatperson is nowhere to be found right now.
So an amazing time. But we'relooking ahead this afternoon. Glad you're
with us, Hidig and all againtaking the show. I'll be gone after
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this segment because again it's like oneoh eight in the morning here and Heidi,
tomorrow morning at eight am, weare on our way up to what
they call the top of Europe.They say it's the highest mountaintop in Europe.
I don't think it is. Ithink that's I think that's some sort
of tourism fabrication here. But we'llbe up there early in the morning.
So thank you for taking the showtoday, but focusing on what comes next.
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You tell me something you know JaredPolus, Well, you had the
courage to take him on. Youwhooped them in every debate. So why
does Polus, who's so obviously anglingright now for some kind of role in
a Harris administration if there is one, and maybe even holds out delusions of
being a VP, why did hetweet out a congratulatory message to her that
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included an emoji of a coconut anda palm tree when she's being mocked,
Ryan, can you tee that up? I think it's twenty one she's being
roundly mocked for her infamous coconut treeriff. Ryan, Can you play that?
Do you think you just fell outof a coconut tree? You exists
in the context of all in whichyou live and what came before you.
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Now, Heidi, why did Lesdo that? Perhaps because he's not angling
to be vice president. Perhaps he'sbeen angling to be the presidential candidate instead.
I don't know. I mean,he has done so many weird tweets
lately, and half the time I'mlike, is I well, he says
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he hasn't tried that, but Idon't know. There's something odd going on
with him. But he is soarrogant, Dan. You know this.
He believes he can do anything,and I do think he's absolutely running in
twenty twenty eight. So whatever anglehe's going to take right now is just
teeing him up to be the presidentialnominee at that point, which I think
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is laughable after what he's done toour beautiful state. And I will be
his number one The pitbull going afterhim his number one agitator. If he
decides to do that and display forthe world how terrible he's run Colorado,
I'm happy to play that role.Wow. Well, I've got to tell
you, I don't how, giventhe identity politics framework of the Democratic Party,
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how openly mocking Kamala Harris with thecoconut and palm tree emoji gets him
anywhere. So that's why I don'tbelieve that's what he was attempting to do.
I think, in his own stilted, weird kind of way, he
thought he was being funny or something. But again, you have actually debated
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him, and you defeated him ineach of those debates, So I thought,
you know, I've got to deferto your insight on that. Well,
thanks Dan. I do think you'reright. He thinks he's very funny.
He thinks he's very emotionally intelligent.And that's how I was able to
kind of catch him off guard insome of the debates because we knew that
about him. We knew that washis achilles heel. And so I think
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you're right. I think I don'tthink he's intentionally mocking or I think he's
being cutesy but at the end ofthe day, he wants power, he
wants control. He doesn't give ahoot about Kamala Harris or her winning the
presidency, and he's going to angleto do whatever is advantageous for him in
his political future. But Dan,I think with Kamala Harris, I think
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we have to be a little bitcareful. I don't think we should be
critical of her for kind of thecomments that she's made or the ridiculous things
that she's done, as much aswe should be critical for her policy.
I mean she, oh, yeah, raised money for a bail fund for
rioters in the BLM days in twentytwenty, she was in charge of the
border and handling the border. Well, look how well that's gone. I
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think we've got to stay pretty disciplined. And Trump should too, on just
beating her up on the issues andthe policies and how she's run the country
or helped run the country as vicepresident. Yeah, and I get what
you're saying, because I do thinkit's very important to show the American people
how crazy far left she is,you know, because I think the only
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way Biden was able to never beTrump a COVID. But b Biden was
able to pull off this con thathe was some kind of moderate, and
he had that facade right, youknow, uh, you know, lunch
pail Joe garbage and all that phoniness. But with Kamala Harris, you know,
obviously she grew up in hard,hard, far far left California politics
and and then she moved further leftfrom there. So there is so much
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to work with on the policy frontthat America isn't even aware of yet.
On the other hand, heidi,as long as it's done respectfully and in
a way that's that's not honestly misinterpreted. I do think it's fair game to
point out that she's not a heavyweightand and that she doesn't have the gravitas
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for this job, and that ourenemies across the world will not take her
seriously. I think it has tobe done just the right way, you
know. I President Trump has hisown unique way of branding people and exposing
that, so I would expect bothto be in play going forward. I
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think it's going to be wild andif you'll allow me, because I know
we're up against a heard break andthen I'm going to turn it over to
you, and you're tremendously capable hands. But just a couple of quick points,
if you don't mind that, I'dlike to get out there. Obviously
saw this coming a long time ago, right that that Biden would not be
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the nominating I've been saying for along time it's going to get tougher for
Trump now because Biden was as closeto a layup as you're going to get,
since he wasn't functional, and Trumpwas beating him so soundly to begin
with. So yeah, I fullyexpect we're going to see a spike in
the polls, some not all,And in some polls Kamala Harris will go
ahead, et cetera. And andyou know, it might be good for
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all of us not to be overconfident, and everybody works harder and does
more for President Trump. But butbut I think in the end, boy,
Heidi, they've got a nominee whodid not get a single vote.
She did not get a single votefor president primary process right for president.
We all know this, this istrue. If there had been an open
primary, well, she wouldn't bethe DEM nominee. I don't think there's
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anybody who believes she would be theDEM nominee. So you compare that with
that and the lack of credibility theDems now have because they were all part
of covering up, you know,Biden's incapacity. They were all part of
covering that up. I think it'sgoing to cost them credibility with a lot
of people in the middle. Icome back to its President Trump's to lose
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after his heroic reaction to the assassinationattempt. I think it's going to be
very, very hard to beat him. But that's my quick take. And
again, Heidi, thank you forfilling in and doing the show. I
know we're going to do a bitmore tomorrow and I'll look forward to that.
Well. Thanks Dan. You know, I do believe that President Trump
has a handle on this, likeI trust him to know how to approach
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the issues with Kamala and to goafter her in the right way. So
I'm certainly not an expert there.I just want there's so much material to
go after her on, and soI think I think we've just got to
be measured about it, and youknow, not turn off suburban women and
kind of go after things that couldbe thought of as sexist or you know,
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I don't know. I just havethis fear about that. No,
and I think you're right in mylast fifteen seconds. You know, I
think jd. Vance can go afterharder than Trump. Trump has this elevated
status now following his heroism, andI hope they figure that mix out.
Well, I'm sure they will.Back in a flash, Hidigan All filling
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in for Dan Caplis on the DanCapitlis Show and now back to the Dan
Taplas Show podcast. But if youwant to run for president, you've got
to make your case to voters,and make your case to voters. That's
what President Trump did, even thoughhe would have already been the president,
even though he was by far themost popular person in the Republican Party,
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he ran for the Republican presidential nomination. He faced some good competition, and
he made his case to voters theidea of selecting the Democrat Party's nominee.
Because George Soros and Barack Obama anda couple of elite Democrats got in a
smoke filled room and decided to throwJoe Biden overboard. That is not how
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it works. That is a threatto democracy, not the Republican Party,
which is fighting for democracy every singleday, fighting for democracy. You know,
we're at such an odd, odd, terrible place in history. Nine
days ago, Donald Trump was nearlykilled by a gunman on live TV.
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Yesterday, the President, who hasnot been seen in almost a week,
quit his reelection bid with a poston Twitter X. And the media is
pretending like nothing's going on, andthe Democrats are pretending like they are all
about democracy still. Now. Thatwas Jadie Vance, our new vice president
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candidate, and I just got backfrom the RNC a few nights ago,
got to see his speech. Itwas awesome and the crowd loved it.
They were fully, fully supportive ofjd Vance as the vice president pick.
That happened a couple days into theconvention and we got to know the family
a bit better through some speeches.His beautiful wife got up Usha and introduced
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him and talked about their family andwhat she loved about Jadie Vance. I
do think jd Vance is going toscare the Democrats a bit. I mean
if they take out Donald Trump,not literally, I mean hopefully that doesn't
happen ever again that there's an attempton his life, but if they try
and take out Donald Trump somehow asthe president, they've got Jade Vance to
deal with, and that's I mean, that's hardcore. JD is serious.
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He's serious. He got attacked theother day for anti woke language, and
he took it as a badge ofhonor and tweeted out how proud he was
that they were saying that about him. It'll be really interesting to see who
Kamala Harris chooses as her vice presidentpick. I just saw some information on
X that Mark Kelly in Arizona isone of the top contenders. Also Jos
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Shapiro in Pennsylvania. Jared Poulis wouldlike to think he is. I don't
think he has a chance, especiallywhen he kind of I don't know,
he messed up a little bit withthat tweet with the coconut emoji. I
think, Ryan, what do youthink that was wild? He's been doing
some weird stuff on there lately,hasn't he. Yes, I mean some
of the stuff. You don't knowif he's really, like, if he's
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mocking us, or if he's serious. And so you got to kind of
be careful how you react to it. You got to let things play out
a little bit. But I aboutthe one where you said my smart friends
with high IQ's don't use Twitter xcrazy. That was crazy, And here
Elon bought Twitter. One of thesmartest men on the planet. I think
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I'm hoping and I'm thinking that shemight go with Mark Kelly, the astronaut
in Arizona. I'm going to tellyou what that reminds me of, almost
exactly Tim Kin with Hillary Clinton,meaning it doesn't move the needle at all.
They think it does because he's awhite guy from a swing state,
but really isn't going to do herany good. And I don't see anyone
else, Hidi, maybe you canspeak to this. Having run in a
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campaign, I think highly up interms of respect of Governor Josh Shapiro Pennsylvania.
I think he's a real up andcomer. And if i'm him or
I'm an advisor to him, likeyou don't go anywhere near that radioactive waste
site, We'll wait for twenty twentyeight. What do you think? I
agree? And here's the thing.I was helping a scholarships for the last
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year with their school choice movement.They're an incredible nonprofit and one thing that
we were really disappointed in was whenhe was elected governor. In the election,
he had said that he was goingto go all in on school choice,
right, I remember that, andthen he renigged. He totally changed
his position and disappointed so many familiesand children accost across the state of Pennsylvania.
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So I hope that if he isthe vice president candidate, that people
take that to the bank. Andthen there's the whole They have this identity
politics matrix, Heidi, that theyreally got to twist themselves in a pretzel
to navigate because okay, if theychoose Shapiro, well, guess what,
he's Jewish, and that's not goingto play in Dearborn or Minneapolis. And
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now they got to worry are theygoing to lose Michigan or Minnesota because they've
got to run the table in theupper Midwest their Heidi, the Democrats,
the way the map is now,with Trump picking up Nevada and you would
presume North Carolina, Georgia, Arizona, they've got to win every one of
these three Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin. So what is the solution to that
puzzle for them? I don't know, But we had such an incredible convention
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in Milwaukee and Wisconsin that I don'tthink Wassconsin's going to walk away from that
thinking, Oh, the Republicans don'tknow what they're doing. The people there
were so kind, amazing, andthis is really cool. Ryan. They
brought in police officers and sheriffs andstate patrolman from all over the country.
So we actually got to hang outwith seven or eight state patrolman from Colorado
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that we're there helping to protect us. But you know, that convention was
like once in a lifetime. Itwas so energetic, and you know,
honestly, we've got forty six daysuntil North Carolina starts early voting. That's
the first state. Forty six daysfor Kamala Harris to build her brand,
to get a vice president candidate,to build his brand or her brand,
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whatever she picks, and to reallygo up against Donald Trump, who has
so much momentum right now, somuch momentum. But here's the thing,
We've got to keep on it.We can't let our guards down. The
media is already trying to put theassassination attempt behind us, So we've got
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to keep on it. You hearme, Republicans, And I'm going to
tell you how to do that afterthe next break. This is Heidi Ganal
filling in for Dan Kaplis. We'llsee you in just a minute. You're
listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcastJourney, one of my favorite bands.
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I'm an eighties kid, but sothis is Heidi Ganal. I am filling
in for Dan Kaplis, who's celebratinghis thirtieth wedding anniversary in Switzerland. Hope
Dan and Amy have a wonderful timethere. You know, I am blessed
to have a great friend named GregoryCarlson. He is the parliamentarian for the
state GOP, but he also wason the rules committee at the Republican National
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Convention. Gregory, welcome to theshow. Thank you so much, Heidi.
It's great to be here with you. And what a crazy news cycle
it's been in the last few days, I know. And we were both
at the RNC, staying up latelate at night with the whole Colorado crew
talk tucking and kind of digesting theactivities of the day. And we come
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back and all heck breaks loose.Basically, Biden decides he's stepping out of
the race. Kamala Harris is thecandidate now, and so many people are
saying, how the heck do theydo this logistically? How do they do
this? And I've been asked thatover and over again, and I'm like,
I know just the man for thejob. For the conversation, So,
Gregory, you know more about therules and procedures when it comes to
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politics than anybody else I know.So I'd like to ask you first.
There's two scenarios. One is thatBiden drops out as president and then Kamala
becomes president. How does that work? But the first issue I want you
to talk about is how on earthdo they replace Biden as the candidate at
the convention and keep a tight gripon everything so that it doesn't get out
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of control. What does that looklike? Well, it's a great question,
and I want you to know I'vespent several hours out of curiosity pouring
over the rules of the Democrat NationalCommittee, because oftentimes these vacancy rules are
overlooked until they're really needed. AndI think a little history will help explain
what I think the leaders of theDemocrat Party are going to do. In
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nineteen twenty four, it took onehundred and three rounds of voting at a
convention to get John Davis over thefinish line, who was then totally defeated
by President Calvin Coolidge. A littlebit more recently, in nineteen eighty,
Jimmy Carter was challenged by Senator TedKennedy to try to get delegates. The
effort failed and Carter was stomped byRonald Reagan, who became president. And
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of course, in nineteen sixty eight, you had President Lyndon Johnson, he
exited because Vietnam. Hubert Humphrey isvice president, didn't really compete. Bobby
Kennedy, who had been assassinated,had some delegates. Humphrey head delegates.
You Kane McCarthy had delegates, andas everybody knows, that were competing flights
and it all turned to chaos andends up losing that election as well.
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Bottom line is you're probably seeing atheme. When there's a divided convention,
it tends to not go well forthat candidate. And so that's why you're
seeing Vice President Karala Harris probably pullingall nighters, locking as many delegates as
she can, and according to theAssociated Press, she's about halfway there,
just over one thousand pledged delegates.Because the thing is now that President Biden
is out of the race. Thosepeople are free to vote for who they
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want to. And I think it'sgoing to have a couple of rules I
can share it with you that Ithink will make this it's not over yet,
it might make this very interesting.Okay, So one of the interesting
things we noted today was that previousPresident Obama has not endorsed Kamala. Now,
Pelosi did come out and do it. I don't know about Jeffreys and
Schuber maybe you've heard by now,but he called for an open convention.
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So what does that mean? Whatdoes that look like? Well, it's
really interesting because the Democrat Party isa lot less of a grassroots party than
the Republican Party because almost a fifthof their delegates are super delegates, meaning
there because of their position either incong or somewhere else in the party,
whereas the Republicans have far fewer superdelegates, which I think is interesting. However,
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the super delegates are not allowed tovote until the second ballots, so
on the first ballot, only pledgeddelegates can vote, but now they have
nobody that they're pledged to. Andhere's the rule. It takes three hundred
signatures from delegates to get a newcandidate on the ballot, which is not
an impossible threshold. So if youget three hundred delegates and fifty no more
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than fifty can come from one state, you could potentially see a challenge to
Kamala Harris in the roll call.One other thing I think is worth interesting
is worth pointing out, is thatup until this point you've seen seven hundred
thousand Democrat voters votes uncommitted. Rememberback in Michigan and in some of these
states where the voters are unhappy withlike, for example, the war between
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Israel and Hamas, and they're nothappy with how the administration is handling that.
So you're seeing big sweeps of voterssay that they're not supportive of the
current ticket. It will be interestingto see how I think you're going to
see some conversations with some delegates comingup saying, Hey, you know what,
I'm actually not going to vote forthis. I'm now free to vote
how I want. Three hundred isthe magic number to make a serious new
candidate come along. Got it?Okay? So back to the other scenario.
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There are reports that President Biden isvery very ill and that he may
be stepping down. It's the Twitter'sthe wild West. Like I said before,
we don't know until we know.But if that happens, what happens
next? And I mean logistically,does that change the DNC? I don't
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believe. So what will be interestingis because it is a much bigger problem
for the candidate to drop out afterthe convention because then you're starting to run
into state deadlines about whether or notyou're going to be on the ballots.
But technically President Biden is not thenominee yet because they haven't had their convention,
even though he's the incumbent. Whatwill be really interesting to see,
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and so for the listeners out there, what will be really interesting to see
is if they continue to have thisAugust virtual vote, because if they push
to try to have this August virtualvote, what that signifies is they want
They're doing this because of a kerfufflein Ohio. But bottom line is if
they continue with this virtual vote,it's going to be to try to get
Kamala Harris as the nominee so thattheir convention can just be one big celebration
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of her. However, if theypush the electronic vote, it could be
signs that there's some trouble brewing andthat there might be some delegates upset about
some of President Biden's policies who mightbe looking for some protest votes and some
protest candidates to look forward, becauseagain, all the delegates are now uncommitted,
and as you know, it canbe even though they've been nominated,
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the DNC rules are pretty lax,and they now that they're they're uncommitted.
I think, you know, everybody'sgoing to try to get unity real quickly,
but there's enough time between now andthe convention. I think there's still
can a chance for something interesting tohappen with the convention. Got it,
Greg? What was your favorite Whowas your favorite speaker at the RNC who
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really made an impact on you?You know, that World War two veteran
was just incredible, But to behonest, the ones that made me the
most emotional was whenever the friends andfamily of the soldiers who died in Afghanistan
or the people who've lost ones atSentinel. Those are really impactful because the
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theme was you're hearing speeches from trueeveryday Americans and that couldn't have been more
appropriate, you know, And thoseare the ones that really got to me
were because you know, it wasnice to hear all the speeches from all
the elected officials, of course,but I really noticed there was an effort
for everyday Americans to speak at theconvention, and they had some of the
most emotional impact. I thought,yeah, I agree with you. Sergeant
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William Peckrel I believe was his name, and my favorite line from him was
if Donald Trump is the nominee,or you know, once he's the nominee,
if he becomes elected president, Iwill re enlist. And here's this
ninety eight year old, incredible veteranfrom World War Two saying you'll re enlist.
I thought that was so cute.I also really enjoyed seeing Kai Trump,
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Donald Trump Junior's daughter get up andtalk about her grandpa and tell the
stories. I think that was reallyreally cool. I agree, I agree.
It was an amazing convention. Ilearned a lot, and just to
go back to the DNC for amoment. I believe the leaders of the
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DNC will make a big mistake ifthey try to change the rules to force
everybody to vote for Kamala Harris insome way. It was only recently that
the super was twenty eighteen, whenthe super delegates were no longer allowed to
vote on the first ballots. AndI could be wrong, but I believe
that Bernie Sanders had a role inthat because they're trying to make the party
more grassroots. If they tried toto really change their rules to accommodate this
(27:03):
change, I think it will backfireon them and you might see more and
more delegates protesting, and so'll befascinating to watch. The thing to keep
an eye on is that August rollcall vote virtual to see if that happens
or not, or what that lookslike. What's the date of that?
Do you know? Greg, Ido not know. I think it's around
the seventeenth. I could be wrong, but it's around around that data I
(27:23):
think. Well, Greg Gray Carlson, thank you so much for all you
do for Colorado. You're a warriorout on the front lines and really appreciate
your input and have you educate uson how this is going to work.
This is Heidi Ganal filling in forDan Kaplis. We're going to take a
quick break and come back and talkmore about all things politics and now back
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to the Dan Tapliss Show podcast.You stated earlier Secret Service is not political.
Is that correct? Yes, Okay, would you say leaking your opening
statement to punch Fall News, Politico'sPlaybook, and Washington Post several hours before
you sent it to this committee asbeing political? Yes or no? I
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have no idea how my statement gotout. Well, that's bullshit. Representative
Nancy Mace from South Carolina. Shewas a big hit at the RNC too,
But she says it all, doesn'tshe. It feels like so much
of what we're dealing with is justthat I won't say it. Well,
will you make of her? She'skind of evolved. I would say,
(28:30):
from what I would consider to bea moderate Republican that was pretty wishy,
washy, middle of the road.Suddenly she's like, you know, Mel
Gibson, brave heart, fears proTrump, maga. Right. I think
if you saw me at the RNC, you might say the same thing.
Right. We said a good time, Oh my gosh, we're just fired
up. But you know, weneed people to be brave right now,
(28:52):
right, and we've got to getpeople to be more courageous about speaking out.
It was like at the convention andit was this kind of cool theme
that they were giving people permission tosay. I didn't used to support Trump.
I didn't used to like him,but I do now. Whether it
was Amber Rose who did an incrediblespeech, I know there's lots of mixed
feelings about her being up there,and then Jade Vance, he was not
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a fan of Trump in the beginningand now he's all in. There was
just one after the other after theother like that, and I truly think
they were giving people the green lightto say it's cool now to like Trump.
And that's how it felt well forme being from Michigan to see Sean
O'Brien, the Teamsters President there ata Republican convention. I mean, it
just defied all the old stereotypes aboutthe Republican Party. And that was across
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the board. Heidie, you werethere, the pop culture, the Hulk,
Hogan, the Kid Rock. Itwas fun. It made it look
like it was fun to be aRepublican. It was fun to be a
Republican. And I've been saying thatmy whole campaign. I know, you
remember, like, we've got tomake it fun to be a Republican again.
And that's one of my goals inColorado and with Rocky Mountain Voice,
(30:03):
is to get people engaged, notjust online because it is. It's an
online, unabashably center right conservative newsplatform. But it's also about building community
and getting out there and hosting funrallies and events and getting people together to
have conversation. And that's one ofthe most important things I think we can
shift in Colorado to get the conservativemovement going again. Well, you will
(30:29):
have this to contend with at theDemocratic National Convention coming up in just under
a month. I think this mightbe fun. I'll stop the madness.
(31:02):
You're going to give our listeners aheadache. She's such a loon. Oh
my gosh, oh wow, Wow. That was so I got inspired when
I saw her do that sit downinterview. This from a few years ago
now with O'Donnell. What's her firstname? She does the CBS News.
(31:26):
Yeah, I know who you're talkingabout, kimber Kelly O'Donnell. But anyway,
they're gonna shot at us anyway.So she it's on sixty minutes and
she just does this uncomfortable laugh atthe most inappropriate, inopportune times, and
it's this lack of credibility that itgoes to, and it syncopated. It
matched up perfectly. That is theend of the nineteen eighty nine Batman scene
(31:48):
where Jack Nicholson is the joker,falls from the top of the building and
he's got that laughing kind of toyon his lapel and it keeps laughing even
after he's dead, And it waslike perfectly synced up and really freaking me
out. It should freak you out. Can you imagine her as our president,
oh, being at the un ortalking to a world leader and just
(32:12):
breaking out in that laugh. Well, Heidi, and again you mentioned this
earlier. I think you're right,and Mandy's right. We don't want to
make this look like a misogynist,sexist attack. But she is not a
serious person. I mean, regardlessof gender. You watch her, she's
like a caricature. She's like VeepJulia Luis Japhas, She's that character.
He's not a serious person. She'snot really deep in terms of knowledge or
(32:35):
intellect. She's got that laugh thatjust comes out and you can't just picture
it if you're a middle of theroad voter. Can I picture her at
a summit, head to head negotiatingwith Vladimir Putin or Kim Jong un or
Jijenping. You can see Donald Trumpdoing it, because he did it and
he'll do it again. I mean, I feel strongly that he's going to
take charge of these fires burning allover our world pretty quick. And I
(33:00):
know his speech got mixed reviews becauseit was long, but to be there
and wait five days to hear fromhim, it was actually kind of cool.
It was like a conversation with thecrowd. It felt very comfortable.
It was like a back and forth, and it was really effective for the
delegates there, the fifty thousand peoplethat were in the audience to have that
conversation with him and to hear whathe wants to do, how he wants
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to approach his next term. ButI'll tell you what, Ryan, I
want to finish up by telling people, this is go time, Like,
you can't get complacent, you can'tget over confident. We've all got to
go all in to win this electionin the fall. And there's a couple
of ways you can do that.Obviously, you can get engaged by knocking
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on doors, making phone calls,text messages, sending postcards. That's another
thing you can do from the couch. There's a really easy app, turning
Point Action tpee action app. It'sfree, it's got all the voter data
rolled into it. You can doit from your couch. It's really really
easy to use, so you cando that where you can get involved in
your church. Lots of the churchesare creating church impact teams and getting a
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little bit more political. I wouldstrongly suggest you talk to your pastor about
that, have him read Letter tothe American Church. And then finally,
be bold, speak out, digout that maga hat that make America great
again had put it on. Bebrave, take the flack, and know
that it is now cool to bea Republican again. This is Heidiknal tapping
(34:28):
out for Dan Kaplis. We'll seeit tomorrow.
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