August 5, 2025 • 36 mins
HHS secretary Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. and Secretary of Agriculture Brooke Rollins announce a Trump administration plan to prevent the use of SNAP benefits (food stamps) for 'sugary drinks' like Coca-Cola - including here in Colorado.
SNAPDan argues this is an infringement on the dignity of low-income Americans, who should be free to obtain whatever grocery items they choose. Ryan spotlights the libertarian argument of a slippery slope in terms of government intervention on where one draws the line between 'healthy' and 'unhealthy' foods - and how are those defined?
SNAPDan argues this is an infringement on the dignity of low-income Americans, who should be free to obtain whatever grocery items they choose. Ryan spotlights the libertarian argument of a slippery slope in terms of government intervention on where one draws the line between 'healthy' and 'unhealthy' foods - and how are those defined?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast
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is freedom right, and Polis tries to pull off this
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big fib that he's all about freedom, and we know
it's the opposite, right. I guess in his world you're
free to do whatever he wants you to do. But
beyond that, good luck now. But this issue, to me
is one of the most interesting to come around in
a long long time. And I give you the Denver
Post version of the story, which essentially boils down to
this that Polus says you can no longer use food
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stamps food stamps in Colorado for Coca Cola or any
other pop and he's united with RFK Junior on this.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
And what do you think? Who do you think is
right and wrong?
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Here?
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Three or three seven, three eight two five five the
number tags d A N five seven seven three nine.
I think that Polus is wrong. I think that Trump
administration is wrong on this h and just so revealing
about Polus, right, and I think I know what's going
on with the Trump administration because this, to me is
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obviously contrary, you know, basic conservative principles, basic principles of freedom,
and so it's very much consistent with the real Jared Polis,
who pretends to be all about freedom, but he's exactly
the opposite.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
So, yeah, love to get your take.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Three or three someone three eight two five five the
number should poor color oddents be able to spend food
stamps on Coca Cola? Three or three someone three eight
two five five TEGs d a N five seven seven
three nine. We've got a lot more going on than
that today. But to me, that that issue is so
telling in so many different ways. Also a lot of
fun sound on it. As you know, Gayleen Maxwell has
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now been transed heard from one prison facility to the other.
The President saying that he was not aware of that
transfer until he heard about it in the media, and
I believe him when he says that. I think that
DOJ is probably being very careful with that, and so
I think it's just consistent with what we've been talking
about all along, right, which is that DJ is probably
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going to make a deal with her that's why they've
spent so much time together. And if she can give
him enough good stuff on enough other child rapists, then
she's going to get her sentence eliminated or cuts significantly.
How do you feel about that, mister Fung Text d
A N five, seven, seventh through nine. If you don't
get the mister Fung reference, I know you do, right, Ryan,
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that did.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Not go over your very large and all the best
ways had no, no, no no.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
The oj Simpson trial, Oh yeah right, Barry Shack cross examining,
Barry Chah, the lab guy Fung, What about that, mister Fung?
Speaker 3 (03:00):
What is the real time in your life done?
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Wild?
Speaker 1 (03:03):
You know the most surreal part of that trial. And
there were a lot of amazing moments in that trial.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Star Jones was your girlfriend?
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Oh no, that was? She never was, but that her
effort to be was not in that trial.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
That was in Rodney king Amy's.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Cow And for people not familiar with Star Jones, just
a wonderful human and a brilliant, brilliant woman. And she
had been a prosecutor if I remember righting, maybe back
in Brooklyn, and then she caught on talented legal analyst.
She caught on and she was doing the national stuff
for NBC I think it was, and I was doing
the Rodney King trial for Channel four in the CBS
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owned stations.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Anyway, long story short, I had met Star Jones when
I was covering Tyson. I was covering Tyson for Channel
four and I can't remember the network that it was
affiliated with at the time, but I was doing a
lot of network stuff, Channel four, everything else. Entyson met
Star at Tyson and she took a liking to me,
as surprising as that may seem to some, but no,
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we never dated. But you're sitting there, Okay, you're sitting
there in the Rodney King trot. This is a big deal.
Not that Tyson wasn't, but this is a big deal
for the country. You're sitting there in the federal courtroom.
And there has been so much jocking for a very
long time as to who gets to be in the
courtroom Rodney King testifies, and I had, I had done
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everything humanly possible to win a seat in the courtroom
during that testimony.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
I want it. We're sitting there during the testimony, and
then let's just say, Star chose that moment.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
To start making her advances.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Yeah, it was just a surreal scene. But I never was.
I never was.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
That's that's what made well, thank you, But fortunately one
person decided that it was. And you just need that one, right,
as long as it's the right one, you just need
that one. But anyway, yes, so I don't know how
we got off on all that three three A two
five five the number text d A N five seven
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seven three nine. Where did that come from? Kelly put
the phone call on the air. She really is, well,
that person does not sound happy. Is that somebody we
should be talking to right now?
Speaker 3 (05:21):
I don't know. You've had some interesting calls later.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Yeah, yeah, it's so anyway, I'll get to the rest
of that story eventually, or maybe not if we're lucky.
But I do want to talk about about whether this
deal should be made, this deal that I think is
brewing in the Epstein matter, and how many how many
other child rapists would she have to be able to
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help convict to make it worth cutting or eliminating her sentence?
So we will talk about that and then really interesting
stuff here now with this socialist many people say communists,
I think they're probably right. Who's about become the mayor
of New York and this beautiful thing we all hoped
would unfold where he would become the face of the
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Democratic Party and Democrats now going out of their way
to make him the face. But let's start local with
Governor Polis saying no cake for you, no cake for you,
poor people. Governor Polus cutting off Coca Cola and other
pop for people on foodstack.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
I thought he was a libertarian.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
He said, what has he ever done that would nothing?
Suggest nothing?
Speaker 1 (06:28):
I mean, you're right about what he says, right, yeah, yeah,
but Dan I fully support says a texture allowing Democrats
to continue poisoning their children's food supply with petroleum and
high fruit toast corn syrup. I'm not saying pop's good
for you. I haven't had a pop in I wouldn't
even say pop. Even my dad didn't say pop. He
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said a coke or a PEPSI pop would have been
like one hundred years ago. But I haven't had like
a Coca colaon in forty years. What yeah, why that
stuff's terrible for you.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
But that was a choice of mine.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
And my view is, listen, if somebody is a poor
person who qualifies for food.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Stamps, and you know, all these little kids.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Right, all these little kids want to pop, and that
little kid wants a Coca cola or something, and the
parent wants him to have the coca cola. Should the
government be towing him they can't have the coca cola?
Speaker 4 (07:21):
Well, here's my libertarian bent on it that I thought
Jared Polas should have if he's a libertarian, which is okay,
you start with sugary drinks.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
But then, right, where's the line.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Right, it's the ultimate slippery slope. There you go, high fruit, toast,
corn syrup, slippery. Right, it's the ultimate slippery slope.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
But that's what Polish wants, right, that's what he's obviously
a big government guy. He wants big government control. Yeah,
as long as the big government's him. But yeah, that's
that's what he wants.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
I want to pause for a moment. So you don't
drink a lot of booze. You rarely drink a beer,
You don't drink pop at all for forty years. What
do you drink? Water? Just water, only water.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
A lot of water.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
You look healthy?
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Well, thank you, my good skin, I think thank you
for that.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
And skin is like our biggest organ right, that's right,
that's what Kevin and Lakewood wants to hear you're on
the Dan Kapla show.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Welcome Kevin.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
Hey, thanks for having major So I my family was
on food stamps from my food stamps when I was
a young kid growing up, and uh, you know, we
were we were blessed to have those. But my question,
and I'm not saying that it's not right or wrong
what Polish is doing, but what are the name of
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what is the name of those stamps?
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Were they call it snap? Now?
Speaker 5 (08:38):
Well you call them food?
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Oh, I see where you're going.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Okay, thought you're trying to get me on a technicality,
but but obviously that includes beverages, et cetera, stuff they
sell in the grocery store, right, I mean, we've been
very fortunate.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Not to have to be on food stamps.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
But I assume you can just go buy whatever's in
the store, not alcohol. I'm not saying you should be
able to get at alcohol, but.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
Well I'm not a big fan of polis regardless.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
So yeah, well that's a good judgment.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
Yeah, thanks for taking my goal.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Thanks Kevin, Thanks for making your call.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Yeah, you know, and one of the things that shapes
me on this first it's the freedom principle, right, And
if you're sitting there thinking, well, wait a second, you know,
people shouldn't be on food stamps or if they're buying pop,
then do they really need to be on food stamps?
What I'd say is listen, any kind of work requirement, etc.
That can be reasonably built into the food stamp program
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that isn't already there I'm all for.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
I'm just talking about.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Now, you've got a person who who legitimately qualifies, you know,
they're so down on their luck economically, they legitimately qualify.
Why should their kid be deprived? I mean I think
back to, like, you know, our son Joe. He was
our first child before Caroline, and one of the coolest
things in life. Everybody still tells the story is the
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first time Grandpa was going to babysit them. You know,
Joe worked them first verst pepsicola and it was just
like a big moment in life. So you're telling me
that a poor kid shouldn't shouldn't get to try pepsi
or kogae.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
That just bothers me.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
And what bothers me most of all is just the
whole precedent of Okay, now, now, government's going to tell
you what you can eat, you cannot eat, et cetera.
And I understand the point that these are people on
some government benefits, but still.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
That seems to me like overreach and a very very
slippery slope.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
But that's where Jared Polus wants to go. Unfortunately, the
Trump administration going there with him. Do you think the
Trump administration RFK Junior leading the church on this is wrong?
Speaker 2 (10:35):
You're on the Dan Capla Show.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
And now back to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
I like to teach the world to say thing with me, beautiful, Ryan,
How old do you think that at is.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Forty years it's older than me.
Speaker 7 (11:05):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Oh wow, it's fifty four years old. That was recorded
in nineteen seventy one.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
But the point is creatness has lags, right, Oh yeah,
you come up with something that's really good.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
This was going to be around forever.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
This is an important plot point in Device in mad Men,
I believe toward the end of that series with Don
Draper coming up with that, and that's an iconic Yeah,
like you said, fifty four years later, you know it
when you hear it, it sticks with you. And that
launched a derivative campaign. If you heard it, that's the
real thing. Ain't nothing like the real thing? Baby, you know,
Coke was the real thing that was in the eighties,
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and that followed that.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Yeah, but that was more time limited, right, because that
was kind of the eighties.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yeah, and that's this time.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
And I'll bet you everybody listening can think of times
in their life when they've just had that absolutely brilliant moment,
whether it's something they thought of, something they created, something
they did right, and you just said wow, and that
that is going to outlive me. Yeah, So no cool stuff.
And we're talking about that because Jared Polis, governor Freedom
Right self identified, it's truly the opposite of that. But
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Governor Polis, no cake for you poor kids. Governor Polis
now saying you can't use your food stamps on sugary drinks,
So no Coca Cola for the poor kids. Trump administration
to my utter dismay, but I get it, I mean
I get how it happened. Politically, it's the wrong outcome
in my opinion. Trump administration, through Secretary Kennedy, says.
Speaker 8 (12:35):
This about four hundred and five million dollars a day
on snap and about ten percent is going to sugary
drinks and between and if you add candies to that,
it's about thirteen to seventeen percent. And we all believe
in free choice. We live in a democracy. People can
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make their own trust about what they're going to buy
and what they're not going to buy. If you want
to buy a sugary soda, you ought to be able
to do that because a US taxpayers should not pay
for it.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
The US taxpayers should not.
Speaker 8 (13:09):
Be paying to feed kids foods the forest, kids in
our country with foods that are going to give them diabetes,
and then my agency ends up through Medicaid and medicare
paying for those injuries. Oh, we're going to put an
end to that, and we're doing it step by step,
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state by state.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
But here's one of the many things I don't get.
You hear that same argument from Polish, right, Yeah, not
with taxpayer dollars. We're not going to pay to do
these things that are bad for kids. Polis is leading
the charge to use taxpayer dollars to kill children, leading
the charge to use taxpayer dollars to dismember children before birth.
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So where do you think this is really coming from?
For Polis it's a political maneuver trying to position himself
in a certain lane, but it certainly isn't freedom. And
I get the concern. I think this is one of
those relatively close call issues where you can get good
arguments on both sides. But my point is, yeah, it's
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in these really tough issues where the commitment to freedom
shows through the commitment to freedom for everybody. Okay, if
you don't think a person should qualify for food stamps,
that's a fair conversation.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
I have.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
What should those qualifications be? Are the work requirements strict enough?
But once they do, once society is saying, okay, this person,
because of their dire circumstances, they qualify to have the
rest of us support them. And I don't see what
business we have micromanaging their lives like that unless you're
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going to say, okay, now that the whole purpose of
the food stamp program is given just enough, just enough
to keep the heart ticking brain waves to stop them
from dying in the street. If if that's how the
programs can be set up, then that's one thing, But
that's not how the program's set up. When you now
reach in and micromanage, oh, they happen to be poor,
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So now we're going to micromanage them.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
I just don't like that.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
Well, I'm going to do it on this road a
little bit further. When you were a kid, Dan, did
your mom make you guys kool aid?
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Yeah, yeah, what's in kool aid? Sugar? Well, can have sugar.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
My mom's fudge the greatest thing in the world.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
But you can't have that. This is where I'm going.
Where do you draw the line?
Speaker 4 (15:27):
And then there's all the semolina pasta that's made with wheat,
and there's that it makes your body create sugars. If
you eat too much of that, you might get diabetes.
You're gonna ban pasta as a staple.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
I love. I love what MAHA's doing. I love the
whole overall.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
I love for a whole approach to healthier foods, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
And people use the europe example.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
It's true, right, yeah, I mean over in Europe, those
people they're drinking, they're smoking, they're doing all this, they're
doing all this stuff, and they're living a lot longer
and healthier, right, And I think a lot of it
has to do it. They don't have the junk and
the food. But I'm all for it in terms of
research education, you know, putting these limits on manufacturers. But
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I'm not for saying the poor people, Oh, okay, the
rich kid gets coked, but you don't well.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
And Kyle Clark mentions this in his bite, and it's
kind of a throwaway line, but I want to focus
on it, which is one hundred percent. Juice products are
not banned except they're loaded with sugars. They're natural sugars,
but they're sugars. Nevertheless, No, that's right. I mean, there's
sugar in milk. You only want to be in milk
when kids are gonna do that.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
But there's there's also a dignity thing here too, right, right, right,
a dignity thing, And I understand the argument over who
should be on food stamps and who shouldn't listen to
another big irony of this, right, it's Polis and the Democrats,
who are the party of fighting for scraps. I mean,
they're the party that hold almost all these poor people back,
you know, because they opposed true school choice.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
So you get all.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
These people who don't get an equal opportunity to compete
because they don't have an equal opportunity I need a
great education.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Democrats love that.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
They want a whole bunch of people fighting for scraps
because they understand once people start to make more than
sixty thousand dollars, a majority are going to vote Republican.
So they want to keep people down. They want to
keep people on food stamps. But my lord, if you're
going to keep people on food stamps through your policies,
then let them have a little dignity. What the other
kids can have a coke, but they can't have a
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coke Now, Ironically, when you talk about coke grind, you're
talking about Polis, who is, as far as I can see,
the biggest promoter of dope, the biggest promoter of dope
in Colorado, knowing the harm dope is going to do
for kids. I had to spend money out of my
own pocket. You remember that I had to spend money
out of my own pocket to buy up a license
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plate that he wanted every little kid in Colorado to
be looking at, because you know how he was auctioning
off these license plates so we could get national attention.
And they glorify marijuana use. And I'm saying, this is
a governor who wants to green light. He wants to
encourage marijuana use for kids bye by glorifying it through
license plates issued by the state. What was that plate
I bought? Do you remember? I'll look it up during
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the break. I think it said dabbing or something like that.
And so this governor, who seems to have this obsession
with green lighting for kids dope, is now saying a
poor kid can't have a pop. What do you think
is really going on there? And we will play Kyle
Clark's take on this, mostly because it agrees with mine.
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text d A N five seven seven three nine.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
You're on the Dan Kapitlas Show.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
King Polas No cake for you poor kids? Yeah, can't spend.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Food stamps anymore on pop if you're poor?
Speaker 1 (18:47):
And uh RFK Junior and I separate that from the
administration and listen as I go to the phone line.
So we'll start with Joe and Pueblo. I'm really really
happy RFK Junior endorsed Trump. I think it was important
and I'm happy in the administration. I think that Trump
is going down this road. I think he's going down
this road because hey, he owes RFK Junior. He's going
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to give him some latitude. And this is a big thing.
And I know RFK Junior is well intentioned here. Don't
have any doubts about that. This to me is just
a freedom issue, a freedom line. Joe and Peblo, you're
on the dan Kaplis.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
You'll welcome, Hi, Dan. I think you're looking at this wrong.
Let me explain. You know, food stamps really is a
program where you're enslaved to the state. It's just one
more program where you're already enslaved to the state by
them giving you money, giving you food whatever. I mean.
The Bible says if a man doesn't work, neither should
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he eat. Would you say God's being too tough on that?
Speaker 7 (19:49):
Well?
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Was God?
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Let's say talking about a single mom with multiple kids
who's now her partner has left, and so the only
way she can feed these kids right now and still
raise them because they're young, is is through food stamps.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Do you think God saying no to that?
Speaker 6 (20:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (20:11):
I do.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Okay, thanks for being direct, But I think the Bible, Yeah,
I think the Bible is very clear on on standards.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
What about that.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Go ahead, Sorry, Joe, I just got very excited because
I thought of a Bible quote to respond with.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Right about what about when I was hungry? You gave
me to eat?
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Whatsoever you do to the least of my brothers, didn't
you do unto me? When did we ever.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
See you hungry?
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Lord?
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Well, you saw this person hungry.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
Yeah, but Jesus didn't go around promoting socialism.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Oh, you're right about.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
That, You know he didn't.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
You're right about that.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
Programs are or socialism. Would you let your children eat
all these sugary drinks? Or why would we have a
separate standard for someone who's on the government doll.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Well, that's a fair question, As I said earlier, my friend,
in part, it's because no, it's not a regular part
of their diet. But have we let our kids when
there were little kids and everything else? Now they make
their own decisions. Have we let them have a Coca Cola?
You bet we have. Yeah, And I understand some other
really good parents maybe I've never let their kid have
a coke.
Speaker 5 (21:27):
I think you make the standard high enough and tough
enough to encourage them to get off.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Well, hey, I'm with you on that, my friend, and
I don't claim to be an expert on what the
work requirements, etc.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
I'm with you on that, and I'm with you on listen.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
I used to be a Democrat, right, and then I
became a conservative and found out that I was in
the seminary and so I'm like a lot of people
listening to this show. My drive is to help the weakened, defenseless,
you know, to help the poor, et cetera. And I
found out that the conservative approach is a hell of
a lot better for that than the lefty approach because
it actually.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
And then you are right. You always have to ask
the question too, are you enabling or are you helping
someone move on to something better?
Speaker 2 (22:07):
That's the port question.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
That's That's one of the reasons I'm a Republican to
your point, Joe, because the left wants people depending on government,
They want people fighting for scraps, they want to keep
them poor. Because once people make sixty grand or more,
a majority vote Republican.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
You know, I want people to thrive. You want people
to thrive.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
And and you know, I used to be I used
to be a victim. I used to think like a
Democrat years ago, and you know, I was constantly victimized
of the worlds against me. But when you find out
that the mindset needs to change from that to I
am victorious, I can do whatever act I live in
a free country, then you start to expand and you
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become more prosperous, right, you know.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
All I'm saying is along the way, if somebody's ended
up in a situation where they really need food stamps,
I'm saying, give them a little dignity, and if the
parent wants their kid to have a coke, let them
have a coke.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
But Joe, you're a great call.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Thank you for that manner, and I know probably ninety
nine percent of the audience agrees with you and not me.
And someday, when we have more time, I want to
go to Joe's broader point about how wait a second,
My view of Jesus is that he was not here
pushing socialism in any way, shape or form, quite the
polar complete opposite, and that the point was, yeah, as individuals,
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you know, as Archbishop Shepew has always said, as as individuals,
we will be judged based on how we help the poor,
whether we live the life of the poor, and so
that is a core thing for Christians is you know,
we better walk the talk and helping the poor, and
that's an individual thing.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Now.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
I don't believe that that teaching of Christ is inconsistent
with in a society that operates like ours on a
large scale, et cetera. When you have somebody desperately in need,
and as a practical matter, you can't just sit and
wait there and hope that some individual finds them, figures
out their need, and feeds them that day. I don't
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think it's socialism to then have a government safety net. Now,
obviously the modern Democratic Party wants true socialism, and that's
the opposite of christ teaching. Tracy and Longmont, you're on
the Dan Caplish, welcome.
Speaker 7 (24:17):
Hey, Dan. I had two comments with being He brought
up the scripture. I gotta tell you a verse out
of Jeremiah. It says, seek ye first the welfare of
the people, and all these things shall be added unto you,
you know. And so and here's the song I got
for you. I like mine with lettuce and tomato, has
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fifty seven and French fried potato.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Jimmy, we missed Jimmy, don't we Ah?
Speaker 9 (24:45):
Yeah, yeah, I'll tell you what so so look, they're
gonna take they're gonna take the potato chips away from people.
What they gonna do, Go buy a five pound No, no,
they're gonna buy a five pound pack of you know,
a bag of potato. They get some hydrogenated vegetable all.
I mean, you got a sack of potato chips anyway.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Yeah, No, I'm with you, my friend.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
It two very very very slippery slope there at once.
And if you just joined us, thank you. Jared Poulos
has now said poor people in Colorado and food stamps,
no coke for you. Now, you can't have Coca cola,
you can't have any kind of pop like that.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
RFK Junior.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
You know he's pushing that through the administration as well.
They're hand in hand on this. I just think they
are wrong.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
What do you think?
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Three or three seven one, three eight two five five
texts DA and five seven seven three nine. And you know,
I understand, and I think it's fascinating and Joe and
Peblo a great caller and everything else. And my point
isn't to sit here and trade Bible versus on that.
But but I mean it all comes back to for Christians.
Christian perspective, right, I mean, the greatest commandment is is
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what I mean. It comes back to, you know, love
God with all your heart, your mind, your soul, and
love your neighbor as yourself.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
And so the idea big government is now going to.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Say, oh, you're you're so poor you qualify for food stamps,
but your kid can have a Coca Cola that that
rich kid can. To me, that's big government overreach and
a dangerous president. Or Linda in Canyon City, hopefully not
in Canyon City, but living in the area, you're on
the Dane capitalist, She'll welcome. Hello Dan.
Speaker 10 (26:20):
Yeah, I'm I live in Canyon City, but not.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
You're free to leaf.
Speaker 10 (26:28):
Yes, I'm free to come and go as I please. Yeah.
The thing is SNAP stands for Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
And you know I was.
Speaker 10 (26:46):
Before I was diagnosed with some of my mental health problems.
I have PTSD and I'm also on the autism spectrum.
So I went through thirty one jobs in twelve years.
And and I at one point I did qualify to
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get on food stamps for a little while, which I was,
you know, I felt, you know, I only got like
twelve dollars and being on the spectrum. I have this
hyper sense of justice, and it used to make me
angry to see people buy and junk with their stamps
when I could barely afford you know, I only had
fresh fruits and vegetables at the beginning of the month
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when I got my food stamps. So that made you know,
like I said, my hypersense of justice. It wouldn't make
me kind of angry seeing people buy and junk with
their food stamps, because it is you know, I only
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got the good food, you know, because food banks mostly
just carry processed food, you know, canned foods and things
like that. And when I needed the you know, the
fresh fruits and vegetables, that's all, you know, I would
use the food stamps to get that, right right.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Oh yeah, Well, so I.
Speaker 10 (28:14):
Felt like, you know, if the government is giving that subsidy,
they can I think they can dictate a little bit
what you should be able to get.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Well or Linda.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
And it's so great to have it from your perspective
because you were in that really hard situation you are
on food stamps. So thank you for that. I mean,
it's it's great to haveage from your perspective. And for
those who just joined us. Thank you when we come back.
More callers text. But I'll also play some sound from
Kyle Clark at KUSA and I understand. Probably the best
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argument that I'm wrong here is the fact that Kyle
Clark agrees with me.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
But we'll play that sound as well.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
The big issue Governor pol is now saying poor people
in food stamps, no, no, no coke for you, you
can't buy coke with that, and RFK Junior agreeing with that.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
You're on the Dan Capla Show.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
And now back to the Dan Kapla Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Wow, cokes had some good ad agencies over the years.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Yeah, Wow jingles that just stick with you.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Yeah, and obviously they have the money to spend a
drill them into your brain. Right, But we're talking about
Governor Polis saying if you're poor, no coke for you.
Speaker 7 (29:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
On food stamps, forget it no longer with Jared Pola,
say he pushes pot on the whole population. Right, Why
do you think he wanted all this glorification of marijuana
stuff on license plates in Colorado? I mean he's the
guy who greenlighted that pun intended. Yeah, and he knows
he's going to have kids looking at all these messages,
the official imperature of the state literally on these license plates,
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glorifying dope.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
And he knows kids are going to look at that.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
So he's perfectly happy to have kids in Colorado raised
in a dope culture, glorifying dope. But a poor parent
wants their kid to have a coke like the rich
kid down the block. No, sorry, three at three someone
three eight, two five five the number N. I fully
respect the fact I may be the only person involved
in this conversation right now who feels this way, but
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I do, and I think it's an important freedom issue.
And you start talking about government overreach and the slippery
slope here. Sure, pop's obviously bad for you, but so
many other things are too, right that you can buy
with the food stamp program. So once you say okay,
it's okay for polists to say, no, poor person, you
can't have that coke, Well, where do you stop? I mean,
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how much of the stuff that you can buy with
food stamps is actually good for you.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Let's go to marry in Eerie. You're on the Dan capitalist.
She'll welcome Mary.
Speaker 7 (30:58):
Hi.
Speaker 11 (30:59):
So we've been down the slippery slope a long long time.
Speaker 9 (31:02):
Ago.
Speaker 11 (31:03):
But I am totally in your camp. First of all,
as a Republican, aren't we the party of parents have
the right to choose and are smart enough to take
care of their own children. So why would we allow
the government to tell us that we can't buy a
can of poplins no while for our children.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Amen.
Speaker 11 (31:21):
So that's where I go down on it, and I
think that you're right. I think that President Trump is
jumping on the RFK bandwagon to show his support and
thank him. And let's remember that RFK comes from a
long line of a democratic family, so he still has
some of that innates that they know better than what
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parents do to take care of their children.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Hey, appreciate the call of Mary and great to find
somebody who agrees with me. That's wonderful. My quick note
on RFK is I think with RFK, I mean it's
probably ninety five percent since here.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
And you're right.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
I mean there are lefties and lefty mindset and all that.
But when I look at this guy and I look
at his life and all of that stuff, now, I
think he just sincerely wants to help people. Now, you
cannot mesh that with his pro abortion views. Other than
he wanted to be able to remain in the Democratic
Party because you have so many folks who are otherwise
just great humans who make that decision that they're going
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to support legalized abortion on demand to labor and delivery.
They're going to support that and in order to have
power in the Democratic Party. And unfortunately, I think he
made that decision. But otherwise I think he's just very
sincere about all that. I'm just bringing it back to
the freedom point here. Three or three seOne, three eight,
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two five five of the number Dan. At Costco, I
once saw two ladies load a flatbed card full of
sodas and they paid with two EBT cards. I think
the suggestion there is maybe there was a big party
or something like that.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Yeah, that kind of abuse.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
We're all going to be on the same page, right
And I don't know the particulars of the food stamp program,
if it needs tougher requirements or work requirements or whatever.
That that's a legitimate separate argument. But once you find
somebody is poor enough they need to be on poor
stamps at food stamps, but why offend.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Their dignity like that?
Speaker 1 (33:12):
And why create that dangerous precedent Dan, The more junk
you eat, the fetter you get, the fetter you get,
the lazier you get, the less work you're going to do.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
I saw lady one time buying.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Steaks and chicken because food stamps wouldn't cover dog food,
and she would cook it.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
For her dog.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Wow. Wow.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
I was in a restaurant the other day. The guy
got a hamburger and just put it on the ground
for his dog.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Have you seen that hat?
Speaker 3 (33:38):
That's a very kind dog on her.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
And I was having a Philly cheese steak. This was
great moment, delicious. The dog left the hamburger and came
over tried to get my Philly cheese steaks.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
So that's when I knew. I knew I'd made the
right choice.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
He knew you'd be a better owner, Dan, Any endorsements
of Governor of Colorado, Greg Lopez is all over the state.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
I follow him on Facebook.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
I think it's a little early for endorsements in that primary,
but we enjoy Greg and love having him on the show,
that's for sure.
Speaker 7 (34:07):
Dan.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
You know if they can buy candy and chips with
snap money. I don't think you can buy candy. I
don't know about chips.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
That's the thing though, why why should you be able
to buy chips if you can't buy candy and pop?
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Do chips have nutritional value? What nutritional value?
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Hole, slippery slope.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Let me give you twenty seconds of Kyle Clark and
then go back to the phone lines.
Speaker 12 (34:27):
Democratic Governor Jared Polis is once again finding common ground
with the Trump administration, making sure that poor kids don't
buy soda.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
With food benefits.
Speaker 12 (34:35):
Yes, he is a self proclaimed libertarian, and the Republican
administration preaches against government medaling in people's lives. But man,
there is something about a low income kid cracking open
a PEPSI bought with snap that just stems their beans.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Now that I say pop, it's like only one hundred
euro people say pop only two hundred talking about only two.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Hundred euro dample say steams.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Might be sure upper Midwestern or we say pop there.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
I never did when I lived there. It was always
a coke.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
No, that's what they say in like Texas call everything.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
But now in Colorado you have to be careful saying
coke because now that we're the state of drugs.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Yeah, yeah, okay, here's what we're going to do. Lines
of Jams.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Here's my promise to you that as soon as we
get out of this news break, I'm going straight to
the phone lines. Everybody on the lines now, you will
get on air in that first segment. So again, if
you just joined us saying you, we're going to talk
about Governor Polis, no cake for you poor kids. Only
the rich kids get a pop so food stamp program
in Colorado. No longer can you buy a coke. And
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unfortunately the Trump administration with them. I think it's Trump
just throwing a bone to RFK Junior, but Trump administration
with him on this, So right or wrong? Three oh
three seven one three eight two five five text d
A N five seven seven three nine You're on the
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is freedom right, and Polis tries to pull off this
(00:20):
big fib that he's all about freedom, and we know
it's the opposite, right. I guess in his world you're
free to do whatever he wants you to do. But
beyond that, good luck now. But this issue, to me
is one of the most interesting to come around in
a long long time. And I give you the Denver
Post version of the story, which essentially boils down to
this that Polus says you can no longer use food
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stamps food stamps in Colorado for Coca Cola or any
other pop and he's united with RFK Junior on this.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
And what do you think? Who do you think is
right and wrong?
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Here?
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Three or three seven, three eight two five five the
number tags d A N five seven seven three nine.
I think that Polus is wrong. I think that Trump
administration is wrong on this h and just so revealing
about Polus, right, and I think I know what's going
on with the Trump administration because this, to me is
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obviously contrary, you know, basic conservative principles, basic principles of freedom,
and so it's very much consistent with the real Jared Polis,
who pretends to be all about freedom, but he's exactly
the opposite.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
So, yeah, love to get your take.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Three or three someone three eight two five five the
number should poor color oddents be able to spend food
stamps on Coca Cola? Three or three someone three eight
two five five TEGs d a N five seven seven
three nine. We've got a lot more going on than
that today. But to me, that that issue is so
telling in so many different ways. Also a lot of
fun sound on it. As you know, Gayleen Maxwell has
(01:59):
now been transed heard from one prison facility to the other.
The President saying that he was not aware of that
transfer until he heard about it in the media, and
I believe him when he says that. I think that
DOJ is probably being very careful with that, and so
I think it's just consistent with what we've been talking
about all along, right, which is that DJ is probably
(02:21):
going to make a deal with her that's why they've
spent so much time together. And if she can give
him enough good stuff on enough other child rapists, then
she's going to get her sentence eliminated or cuts significantly.
How do you feel about that, mister Fung Text d
A N five, seven, seventh through nine. If you don't
get the mister Fung reference, I know you do, right, Ryan,
(02:42):
that did.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Not go over your very large and all the best
ways had no, no, no no.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
The oj Simpson trial, Oh yeah right, Barry Shack cross examining,
Barry Chah, the lab guy Fung, What about that, mister Fung?
Speaker 3 (03:00):
What is the real time in your life done?
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Wild?
Speaker 1 (03:03):
You know the most surreal part of that trial. And
there were a lot of amazing moments in that trial.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Star Jones was your girlfriend?
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Oh no, that was? She never was, but that her
effort to be was not in that trial.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
That was in Rodney king Amy's.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Cow And for people not familiar with Star Jones, just
a wonderful human and a brilliant, brilliant woman. And she
had been a prosecutor if I remember righting, maybe back
in Brooklyn, and then she caught on talented legal analyst.
She caught on and she was doing the national stuff
for NBC I think it was, and I was doing
the Rodney King trial for Channel four in the CBS
(03:42):
owned stations.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Anyway, long story short, I had met Star Jones when
I was covering Tyson. I was covering Tyson for Channel
four and I can't remember the network that it was
affiliated with at the time, but I was doing a
lot of network stuff, Channel four, everything else. Entyson met
Star at Tyson and she took a liking to me,
as surprising as that may seem to some, but no,
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we never dated. But you're sitting there, Okay, you're sitting
there in the Rodney King trot. This is a big deal.
Not that Tyson wasn't, but this is a big deal
for the country. You're sitting there in the federal courtroom.
And there has been so much jocking for a very
long time as to who gets to be in the
courtroom Rodney King testifies, and I had, I had done
(04:27):
everything humanly possible to win a seat in the courtroom
during that testimony.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
I want it. We're sitting there during the testimony, and
then let's just say, Star chose that moment.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
To start making her advances.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Yeah, it was just a surreal scene. But I never was.
I never was.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
That's that's what made well, thank you, But fortunately one
person decided that it was. And you just need that one, right,
as long as it's the right one, you just need
that one. But anyway, yes, so I don't know how
we got off on all that three three A two
five five the number text d A N five seven
(05:07):
seven three nine. Where did that come from? Kelly put
the phone call on the air. She really is, well,
that person does not sound happy. Is that somebody we
should be talking to right now?
Speaker 3 (05:21):
I don't know. You've had some interesting calls later.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Yeah, yeah, it's so anyway, I'll get to the rest
of that story eventually, or maybe not if we're lucky.
But I do want to talk about about whether this
deal should be made, this deal that I think is
brewing in the Epstein matter, and how many how many
other child rapists would she have to be able to
(05:44):
help convict to make it worth cutting or eliminating her sentence?
So we will talk about that and then really interesting
stuff here now with this socialist many people say communists,
I think they're probably right. Who's about become the mayor
of New York and this beautiful thing we all hoped
would unfold where he would become the face of the
(06:05):
Democratic Party and Democrats now going out of their way
to make him the face. But let's start local with
Governor Polis saying no cake for you, no cake for you,
poor people. Governor Polus cutting off Coca Cola and other
pop for people on foodstack.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
I thought he was a libertarian.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
He said, what has he ever done that would nothing?
Suggest nothing?
Speaker 1 (06:28):
I mean, you're right about what he says, right, yeah, yeah,
but Dan I fully support says a texture allowing Democrats
to continue poisoning their children's food supply with petroleum and
high fruit toast corn syrup. I'm not saying pop's good
for you. I haven't had a pop in I wouldn't
even say pop. Even my dad didn't say pop. He
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said a coke or a PEPSI pop would have been
like one hundred years ago. But I haven't had like
a Coca colaon in forty years. What yeah, why that
stuff's terrible for you.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
But that was a choice of mine.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
And my view is, listen, if somebody is a poor
person who qualifies for food.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Stamps, and you know, all these little kids.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Right, all these little kids want to pop, and that
little kid wants a Coca cola or something, and the
parent wants him to have the coca cola. Should the
government be towing him they can't have the coca cola?
Speaker 4 (07:21):
Well, here's my libertarian bent on it that I thought
Jared Polas should have if he's a libertarian, which is okay,
you start with sugary drinks.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
But then, right, where's the line.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Right, it's the ultimate slippery slope. There you go, high fruit, toast,
corn syrup, slippery. Right, it's the ultimate slippery slope.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
But that's what Polish wants, right, that's what he's obviously
a big government guy. He wants big government control. Yeah,
as long as the big government's him. But yeah, that's
that's what he wants.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
I want to pause for a moment. So you don't
drink a lot of booze. You rarely drink a beer,
You don't drink pop at all for forty years. What
do you drink? Water? Just water, only water.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
A lot of water.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
You look healthy?
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Well, thank you, my good skin, I think thank you
for that.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
And skin is like our biggest organ right, that's right,
that's what Kevin and Lakewood wants to hear you're on
the Dan Kapla show.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Welcome Kevin.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
Hey, thanks for having major So I my family was
on food stamps from my food stamps when I was
a young kid growing up, and uh, you know, we
were we were blessed to have those. But my question,
and I'm not saying that it's not right or wrong
what Polish is doing, but what are the name of
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what is the name of those stamps?
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Were they call it snap? Now?
Speaker 5 (08:38):
Well you call them food?
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Oh, I see where you're going.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Okay, thought you're trying to get me on a technicality,
but but obviously that includes beverages, et cetera, stuff they
sell in the grocery store, right, I mean, we've been
very fortunate.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Not to have to be on food stamps.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
But I assume you can just go buy whatever's in
the store, not alcohol. I'm not saying you should be
able to get at alcohol, but.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
Well I'm not a big fan of polis regardless.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
So yeah, well that's a good judgment.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
Yeah, thanks for taking my goal.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Thanks Kevin, Thanks for making your call.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Yeah, you know, and one of the things that shapes
me on this first it's the freedom principle, right, And
if you're sitting there thinking, well, wait a second, you know,
people shouldn't be on food stamps or if they're buying pop,
then do they really need to be on food stamps?
What I'd say is listen, any kind of work requirement, etc.
That can be reasonably built into the food stamp program
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that isn't already there I'm all for.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
I'm just talking about.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Now, you've got a person who who legitimately qualifies, you know,
they're so down on their luck economically, they legitimately qualify.
Why should their kid be deprived? I mean I think
back to, like, you know, our son Joe. He was
our first child before Caroline, and one of the coolest
things in life. Everybody still tells the story is the
(09:54):
first time Grandpa was going to babysit them. You know,
Joe worked them first verst pepsicola and it was just
like a big moment in life. So you're telling me
that a poor kid shouldn't shouldn't get to try pepsi
or kogae.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
That just bothers me.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
And what bothers me most of all is just the
whole precedent of Okay, now, now, government's going to tell
you what you can eat, you cannot eat, et cetera.
And I understand the point that these are people on
some government benefits, but still.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
That seems to me like overreach and a very very
slippery slope.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
But that's where Jared Polus wants to go. Unfortunately, the
Trump administration going there with him. Do you think the
Trump administration RFK Junior leading the church on this is wrong?
Speaker 2 (10:35):
You're on the Dan Capla Show.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
And now back to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
I like to teach the world to say thing with me, beautiful, Ryan,
How old do you think that at is.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Forty years it's older than me.
Speaker 7 (11:05):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Oh wow, it's fifty four years old. That was recorded
in nineteen seventy one.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
But the point is creatness has lags, right, Oh yeah,
you come up with something that's really good.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
This was going to be around forever.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
This is an important plot point in Device in mad Men,
I believe toward the end of that series with Don
Draper coming up with that, and that's an iconic Yeah,
like you said, fifty four years later, you know it
when you hear it, it sticks with you. And that
launched a derivative campaign. If you heard it, that's the
real thing. Ain't nothing like the real thing? Baby, you know,
Coke was the real thing that was in the eighties,
(11:41):
and that followed that.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Yeah, but that was more time limited, right, because that
was kind of the eighties.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yeah, and that's this time.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
And I'll bet you everybody listening can think of times
in their life when they've just had that absolutely brilliant moment,
whether it's something they thought of, something they created, something
they did right, and you just said wow, and that
that is going to outlive me. Yeah, So no cool stuff.
And we're talking about that because Jared Polis, governor Freedom
Right self identified, it's truly the opposite of that. But
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Governor Polis, no cake for you poor kids. Governor Polis
now saying you can't use your food stamps on sugary drinks,
So no Coca Cola for the poor kids. Trump administration
to my utter dismay, but I get it, I mean
I get how it happened. Politically, it's the wrong outcome
in my opinion. Trump administration, through Secretary Kennedy, says.
Speaker 8 (12:35):
This about four hundred and five million dollars a day
on snap and about ten percent is going to sugary
drinks and between and if you add candies to that,
it's about thirteen to seventeen percent. And we all believe
in free choice. We live in a democracy. People can
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make their own trust about what they're going to buy
and what they're not going to buy. If you want
to buy a sugary soda, you ought to be able
to do that because a US taxpayers should not pay
for it.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
The US taxpayers should not.
Speaker 8 (13:09):
Be paying to feed kids foods the forest, kids in
our country with foods that are going to give them diabetes,
and then my agency ends up through Medicaid and medicare
paying for those injuries. Oh, we're going to put an
end to that, and we're doing it step by step,
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state by state.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
But here's one of the many things I don't get.
You hear that same argument from Polish, right, Yeah, not
with taxpayer dollars. We're not going to pay to do
these things that are bad for kids. Polis is leading
the charge to use taxpayer dollars to kill children, leading
the charge to use taxpayer dollars to dismember children before birth.
(13:56):
So where do you think this is really coming from?
For Polis it's a political maneuver trying to position himself
in a certain lane, but it certainly isn't freedom. And
I get the concern. I think this is one of
those relatively close call issues where you can get good
arguments on both sides. But my point is, yeah, it's
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in these really tough issues where the commitment to freedom
shows through the commitment to freedom for everybody. Okay, if
you don't think a person should qualify for food stamps,
that's a fair conversation.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
I have.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
What should those qualifications be? Are the work requirements strict enough?
But once they do, once society is saying, okay, this person,
because of their dire circumstances, they qualify to have the
rest of us support them. And I don't see what
business we have micromanaging their lives like that unless you're
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going to say, okay, now that the whole purpose of
the food stamp program is given just enough, just enough
to keep the heart ticking brain waves to stop them
from dying in the street. If if that's how the
programs can be set up, then that's one thing, But
that's not how the program's set up. When you now
reach in and micromanage, oh, they happen to be poor,
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So now we're going to micromanage them.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
I just don't like that.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
Well, I'm going to do it on this road a
little bit further. When you were a kid, Dan, did
your mom make you guys kool aid?
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Yeah, yeah, what's in kool aid? Sugar? Well, can have sugar.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
My mom's fudge the greatest thing in the world.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
But you can't have that. This is where I'm going.
Where do you draw the line?
Speaker 4 (15:27):
And then there's all the semolina pasta that's made with wheat,
and there's that it makes your body create sugars. If
you eat too much of that, you might get diabetes.
You're gonna ban pasta as a staple.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
I love. I love what MAHA's doing. I love the
whole overall.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
I love for a whole approach to healthier foods, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
And people use the europe example.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
It's true, right, yeah, I mean over in Europe, those
people they're drinking, they're smoking, they're doing all this, they're
doing all this stuff, and they're living a lot longer
and healthier, right, And I think a lot of it
has to do it. They don't have the junk and
the food. But I'm all for it in terms of
research education, you know, putting these limits on manufacturers. But
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I'm not for saying the poor people, Oh, okay, the
rich kid gets coked, but you don't well.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
And Kyle Clark mentions this in his bite, and it's
kind of a throwaway line, but I want to focus
on it, which is one hundred percent. Juice products are
not banned except they're loaded with sugars. They're natural sugars,
but they're sugars. Nevertheless, No, that's right. I mean, there's
sugar in milk. You only want to be in milk
when kids are gonna do that.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
But there's there's also a dignity thing here too, right, right, right,
a dignity thing, And I understand the argument over who
should be on food stamps and who shouldn't listen to
another big irony of this, right, it's Polis and the Democrats,
who are the party of fighting for scraps. I mean,
they're the party that hold almost all these poor people back,
you know, because they opposed true school choice.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
So you get all.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
These people who don't get an equal opportunity to compete
because they don't have an equal opportunity I need a
great education.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Democrats love that.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
They want a whole bunch of people fighting for scraps
because they understand once people start to make more than
sixty thousand dollars, a majority are going to vote Republican.
So they want to keep people down. They want to
keep people on food stamps. But my lord, if you're
going to keep people on food stamps through your policies,
then let them have a little dignity. What the other
kids can have a coke, but they can't have a
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coke Now, Ironically, when you talk about coke grind, you're
talking about Polis, who is, as far as I can see,
the biggest promoter of dope, the biggest promoter of dope
in Colorado, knowing the harm dope is going to do
for kids. I had to spend money out of my
own pocket. You remember that I had to spend money
out of my own pocket to buy up a license
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plate that he wanted every little kid in Colorado to
be looking at, because you know how he was auctioning
off these license plates so we could get national attention.
And they glorify marijuana use. And I'm saying, this is
a governor who wants to green light. He wants to
encourage marijuana use for kids bye by glorifying it through
license plates issued by the state. What was that plate
I bought? Do you remember? I'll look it up during
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the break. I think it said dabbing or something like that.
And so this governor, who seems to have this obsession
with green lighting for kids dope, is now saying a
poor kid can't have a pop. What do you think
is really going on there? And we will play Kyle
Clark's take on this, mostly because it agrees with mine.
Three or three seven one three eight two five five
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text d A N five seven seven three nine.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
You're on the Dan Kapitlas Show.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
King Polas No cake for you poor kids? Yeah, can't spend.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Food stamps anymore on pop if you're poor?
Speaker 1 (18:47):
And uh RFK Junior and I separate that from the
administration and listen as I go to the phone line.
So we'll start with Joe and Pueblo. I'm really really
happy RFK Junior endorsed Trump. I think it was important
and I'm happy in the administration. I think that Trump
is going down this road. I think he's going down
this road because hey, he owes RFK Junior. He's going
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to give him some latitude. And this is a big thing.
And I know RFK Junior is well intentioned here. Don't
have any doubts about that. This to me is just
a freedom issue, a freedom line. Joe and Peblo, you're
on the dan Kaplis.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
You'll welcome, Hi, Dan. I think you're looking at this wrong.
Let me explain. You know, food stamps really is a
program where you're enslaved to the state. It's just one
more program where you're already enslaved to the state by
them giving you money, giving you food whatever. I mean.
The Bible says if a man doesn't work, neither should
(19:45):
he eat. Would you say God's being too tough on that?
Speaker 7 (19:49):
Well?
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Was God?
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Let's say talking about a single mom with multiple kids
who's now her partner has left, and so the only
way she can feed these kids right now and still
raise them because they're young, is is through food stamps.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Do you think God saying no to that?
Speaker 6 (20:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (20:11):
I do.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Okay, thanks for being direct, But I think the Bible, Yeah,
I think the Bible is very clear on on standards.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
What about that.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Go ahead, Sorry, Joe, I just got very excited because
I thought of a Bible quote to respond with.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Right about what about when I was hungry? You gave
me to eat?
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Whatsoever you do to the least of my brothers, didn't
you do unto me? When did we ever.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
See you hungry?
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Lord?
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Well, you saw this person hungry.
Speaker 5 (20:46):
Yeah, but Jesus didn't go around promoting socialism.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Oh, you're right about.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
That, You know he didn't.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
You're right about that.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
Programs are or socialism. Would you let your children eat
all these sugary drinks? Or why would we have a
separate standard for someone who's on the government doll.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Well, that's a fair question, As I said earlier, my friend,
in part, it's because no, it's not a regular part
of their diet. But have we let our kids when
there were little kids and everything else? Now they make
their own decisions. Have we let them have a Coca Cola?
You bet we have. Yeah, And I understand some other
really good parents maybe I've never let their kid have
a coke.
Speaker 5 (21:27):
I think you make the standard high enough and tough
enough to encourage them to get off.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Well, hey, I'm with you on that, my friend, and
I don't claim to be an expert on what the
work requirements, etc.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
I'm with you on that, and I'm with you on listen.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
I used to be a Democrat, right, and then I
became a conservative and found out that I was in
the seminary and so I'm like a lot of people
listening to this show. My drive is to help the weakened, defenseless,
you know, to help the poor, et cetera. And I
found out that the conservative approach is a hell of
a lot better for that than the lefty approach because
it actually.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
And then you are right. You always have to ask
the question too, are you enabling or are you helping
someone move on to something better?
Speaker 2 (22:07):
That's the port question.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
That's That's one of the reasons I'm a Republican to
your point, Joe, because the left wants people depending on government,
They want people fighting for scraps, they want to keep
them poor. Because once people make sixty grand or more,
a majority vote Republican.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
You know, I want people to thrive. You want people
to thrive.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
And and you know, I used to be I used
to be a victim. I used to think like a
Democrat years ago, and you know, I was constantly victimized
of the worlds against me. But when you find out
that the mindset needs to change from that to I
am victorious, I can do whatever act I live in
a free country, then you start to expand and you
(22:47):
become more prosperous, right, you know.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
All I'm saying is along the way, if somebody's ended
up in a situation where they really need food stamps,
I'm saying, give them a little dignity, and if the
parent wants their kid to have a coke, let them
have a coke.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
But Joe, you're a great call.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Thank you for that manner, and I know probably ninety
nine percent of the audience agrees with you and not me.
And someday, when we have more time, I want to
go to Joe's broader point about how wait a second,
My view of Jesus is that he was not here
pushing socialism in any way, shape or form, quite the
polar complete opposite, and that the point was, yeah, as individuals,
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you know, as Archbishop Shepew has always said, as as individuals,
we will be judged based on how we help the poor,
whether we live the life of the poor, and so
that is a core thing for Christians is you know,
we better walk the talk and helping the poor, and
that's an individual thing.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Now.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
I don't believe that that teaching of Christ is inconsistent
with in a society that operates like ours on a
large scale, et cetera. When you have somebody desperately in need,
and as a practical matter, you can't just sit and
wait there and hope that some individual finds them, figures
out their need, and feeds them that day. I don't
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think it's socialism to then have a government safety net. Now,
obviously the modern Democratic Party wants true socialism, and that's
the opposite of christ teaching. Tracy and Longmont, you're on
the Dan Caplish, welcome.
Speaker 7 (24:17):
Hey, Dan. I had two comments with being He brought
up the scripture. I gotta tell you a verse out
of Jeremiah. It says, seek ye first the welfare of
the people, and all these things shall be added unto you,
you know. And so and here's the song I got
for you. I like mine with lettuce and tomato, has
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fifty seven and French fried potato.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Jimmy, we missed Jimmy, don't we Ah?
Speaker 9 (24:45):
Yeah, yeah, I'll tell you what so so look, they're
gonna take they're gonna take the potato chips away from people.
What they gonna do, Go buy a five pound No, no,
they're gonna buy a five pound pack of you know,
a bag of potato. They get some hydrogenated vegetable all.
I mean, you got a sack of potato chips anyway.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Yeah, No, I'm with you, my friend.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
It two very very very slippery slope there at once.
And if you just joined us, thank you. Jared Poulos
has now said poor people in Colorado and food stamps,
no coke for you. Now, you can't have Coca cola,
you can't have any kind of pop like that.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
RFK Junior.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
You know he's pushing that through the administration as well.
They're hand in hand on this. I just think they
are wrong.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
What do you think?
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Three or three seven one, three eight two five five
texts DA and five seven seven three nine. And you know,
I understand, and I think it's fascinating and Joe and
Peblo a great caller and everything else. And my point
isn't to sit here and trade Bible versus on that.
But but I mean it all comes back to for Christians.
Christian perspective, right, I mean, the greatest commandment is is
(25:50):
what I mean. It comes back to, you know, love
God with all your heart, your mind, your soul, and
love your neighbor as yourself.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
And so the idea big government is now going to.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Say, oh, you're you're so poor you qualify for food stamps,
but your kid can have a Coca Cola that that
rich kid can. To me, that's big government overreach and
a dangerous president. Or Linda in Canyon City, hopefully not
in Canyon City, but living in the area, you're on
the Dane capitalist, She'll welcome. Hello Dan.
Speaker 10 (26:20):
Yeah, I'm I live in Canyon City, but not.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
You're free to leaf.
Speaker 10 (26:28):
Yes, I'm free to come and go as I please. Yeah.
The thing is SNAP stands for Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
And you know I was.
Speaker 10 (26:46):
Before I was diagnosed with some of my mental health problems.
I have PTSD and I'm also on the autism spectrum.
So I went through thirty one jobs in twelve years.
And and I at one point I did qualify to
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get on food stamps for a little while, which I was,
you know, I felt, you know, I only got like
twelve dollars and being on the spectrum. I have this
hyper sense of justice, and it used to make me
angry to see people buy and junk with their stamps
when I could barely afford you know, I only had
fresh fruits and vegetables at the beginning of the month
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when I got my food stamps. So that made you know,
like I said, my hypersense of justice. It wouldn't make
me kind of angry seeing people buy and junk with
their food stamps, because it is you know, I only
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got the good food, you know, because food banks mostly
just carry processed food, you know, canned foods and things
like that. And when I needed the you know, the
fresh fruits and vegetables, that's all, you know, I would
use the food stamps to get that, right right.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Oh yeah, Well, so I.
Speaker 10 (28:14):
Felt like, you know, if the government is giving that subsidy,
they can I think they can dictate a little bit
what you should be able to get.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Well or Linda.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
And it's so great to have it from your perspective
because you were in that really hard situation you are
on food stamps. So thank you for that. I mean,
it's it's great to haveage from your perspective. And for
those who just joined us. Thank you when we come back.
More callers text. But I'll also play some sound from
Kyle Clark at KUSA and I understand. Probably the best
(28:48):
argument that I'm wrong here is the fact that Kyle
Clark agrees with me.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
But we'll play that sound as well.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
The big issue Governor pol is now saying poor people
in food stamps, no, no, no coke for you, you
can't buy coke with that, and RFK Junior agreeing with that.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
You're on the Dan Capla Show.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
And now back to the Dan Kapla Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Wow, cokes had some good ad agencies over the years.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Yeah, Wow jingles that just stick with you.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Yeah, and obviously they have the money to spend a
drill them into your brain. Right, But we're talking about
Governor Polis saying if you're poor, no coke for you.
Speaker 7 (29:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
On food stamps, forget it no longer with Jared Pola,
say he pushes pot on the whole population. Right, Why
do you think he wanted all this glorification of marijuana
stuff on license plates in Colorado? I mean he's the
guy who greenlighted that pun intended. Yeah, and he knows
he's going to have kids looking at all these messages,
the official imperature of the state literally on these license plates,
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glorifying dope.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
And he knows kids are going to look at that.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
So he's perfectly happy to have kids in Colorado raised
in a dope culture, glorifying dope. But a poor parent
wants their kid to have a coke like the rich
kid down the block. No, sorry, three at three someone
three eight, two five five the number N. I fully
respect the fact I may be the only person involved
in this conversation right now who feels this way, but
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I do, and I think it's an important freedom issue.
And you start talking about government overreach and the slippery
slope here. Sure, pop's obviously bad for you, but so
many other things are too, right that you can buy
with the food stamp program. So once you say okay,
it's okay for polists to say, no, poor person, you
can't have that coke, Well, where do you stop? I mean,
(30:47):
how much of the stuff that you can buy with
food stamps is actually good for you.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Let's go to marry in Eerie. You're on the Dan capitalist.
She'll welcome Mary.
Speaker 7 (30:58):
Hi.
Speaker 11 (30:59):
So we've been down the slippery slope a long long time.
Speaker 9 (31:02):
Ago.
Speaker 11 (31:03):
But I am totally in your camp. First of all,
as a Republican, aren't we the party of parents have
the right to choose and are smart enough to take
care of their own children. So why would we allow
the government to tell us that we can't buy a
can of poplins no while for our children.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Amen.
Speaker 11 (31:21):
So that's where I go down on it, and I
think that you're right. I think that President Trump is
jumping on the RFK bandwagon to show his support and
thank him. And let's remember that RFK comes from a
long line of a democratic family, so he still has
some of that innates that they know better than what
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parents do to take care of their children.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Hey, appreciate the call of Mary and great to find
somebody who agrees with me. That's wonderful. My quick note
on RFK is I think with RFK, I mean it's
probably ninety five percent since here.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
And you're right.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
I mean there are lefties and lefty mindset and all that.
But when I look at this guy and I look
at his life and all of that stuff, now, I
think he just sincerely wants to help people. Now, you
cannot mesh that with his pro abortion views. Other than
he wanted to be able to remain in the Democratic
Party because you have so many folks who are otherwise
just great humans who make that decision that they're going
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to support legalized abortion on demand to labor and delivery.
They're going to support that and in order to have
power in the Democratic Party. And unfortunately, I think he
made that decision. But otherwise I think he's just very
sincere about all that. I'm just bringing it back to
the freedom point here. Three or three seOne, three eight,
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two five five of the number Dan. At Costco, I
once saw two ladies load a flatbed card full of
sodas and they paid with two EBT cards. I think
the suggestion there is maybe there was a big party
or something like that.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Yeah, that kind of abuse.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
We're all going to be on the same page, right
And I don't know the particulars of the food stamp program,
if it needs tougher requirements or work requirements or whatever.
That that's a legitimate separate argument. But once you find
somebody is poor enough they need to be on poor
stamps at food stamps, but why offend.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Their dignity like that?
Speaker 1 (33:12):
And why create that dangerous precedent Dan, The more junk
you eat, the fetter you get, the fetter you get,
the lazier you get, the less work you're going to do.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
I saw lady one time buying.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Steaks and chicken because food stamps wouldn't cover dog food,
and she would cook it.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
For her dog.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Wow. Wow.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
I was in a restaurant the other day. The guy
got a hamburger and just put it on the ground
for his dog.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Have you seen that hat?
Speaker 3 (33:38):
That's a very kind dog on her.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
And I was having a Philly cheese steak. This was
great moment, delicious. The dog left the hamburger and came
over tried to get my Philly cheese steaks.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
So that's when I knew. I knew I'd made the
right choice.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
He knew you'd be a better owner, Dan, Any endorsements
of Governor of Colorado, Greg Lopez is all over the state.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
I follow him on Facebook.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
I think it's a little early for endorsements in that primary,
but we enjoy Greg and love having him on the show,
that's for sure.
Speaker 7 (34:07):
Dan.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
You know if they can buy candy and chips with
snap money. I don't think you can buy candy. I
don't know about chips.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
That's the thing though, why why should you be able
to buy chips if you can't buy candy and pop?
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Do chips have nutritional value? What nutritional value?
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Hole, slippery slope.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Let me give you twenty seconds of Kyle Clark and
then go back to the phone lines.
Speaker 12 (34:27):
Democratic Governor Jared Polis is once again finding common ground
with the Trump administration, making sure that poor kids don't
buy soda.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
With food benefits.
Speaker 12 (34:35):
Yes, he is a self proclaimed libertarian, and the Republican
administration preaches against government medaling in people's lives. But man,
there is something about a low income kid cracking open
a PEPSI bought with snap that just stems their beans.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Now that I say pop, it's like only one hundred
euro people say pop only two hundred talking about only two.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Hundred euro dample say steams.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
Might be sure upper Midwestern or we say pop there.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
I never did when I lived there. It was always
a coke.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
No, that's what they say in like Texas call everything.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
But now in Colorado you have to be careful saying
coke because now that we're the state of drugs.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Yeah, yeah, okay, here's what we're going to do. Lines
of Jams.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Here's my promise to you that as soon as we
get out of this news break, I'm going straight to
the phone lines. Everybody on the lines now, you will
get on air in that first segment. So again, if
you just joined us saying you, we're going to talk
about Governor Polis, no cake for you poor kids. Only
the rich kids get a pop so food stamp program
in Colorado. No longer can you buy a coke. And
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unfortunately the Trump administration with them. I think it's Trump
just throwing a bone to RFK Junior, but Trump administration
with him on this, So right or wrong? Three oh
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