Jon Caldara, president of the Independence Institute, joins Dan to discuss his latest op-ed for The Gazette: First safe and clean, then a new stadium. The issue at hand is whether to build, and how to fund, a new stadium for the Denver Broncos.
Rep. Jeff Hurd (R, CO-3) has introduced a bill to protect Pope Leo XIV's U.S. citizenship amid legal questions tied to his role as pope and head of state. The Holy Sovereignty Protection Act would bar revoking citizenship from any American elected pope.
CatholicVote on X: "Rep. Jeff Hurd (R-CO) has introduced a bill to protect Pope Leo XIV’s U.S. citizenship amid legal questions tied to his role as pope and head of state. The Holy Sovereignty Protection Act would bar revoking citizenship from any American elected pope. https://t.co/8xY4vYBEam" / X
Rep. Jeff Hurd (R, CO-3) has introduced a bill to protect Pope Leo XIV's U.S. citizenship amid legal questions tied to his role as pope and head of state. The Holy Sovereignty Protection Act would bar revoking citizenship from any American elected pope.
CatholicVote on X: "Rep. Jeff Hurd (R-CO) has introduced a bill to protect Pope Leo XIV’s U.S. citizenship amid legal questions tied to his role as pope and head of state. The Holy Sovereignty Protection Act would bar revoking citizenship from any American elected pope. https://t.co/8xY4vYBEam" / X
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
Is it the American way for taxpayers to fund football stadiums?
We're going to talk about that with John Keldera, President
of the Independence Institute, host of The Devil's Advocate with
John Keldera. John, welcome back to the Dan Caplis Show.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Dan, good to be here.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Thank you well, thank you for your piece. You know, John,
if you're new to John KELDERA has this tremendous blend
of intellect and humor that is really unique in the marketplace.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
And I think it's intellected immaturity. But thank you for
the compliment.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Well, and the immaturity can be part of the humor, right,
but it's always feigned immaturity and it makes it even
more fun. But let me throw creativity in there as well,
because this is a really creative concept you've come up
with for public funding if any of a new stadium. So,
my friend, please take the floor and run and tell
people about your idea.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I cannot believe it has been less than twenty five
years when we had this big hullabaloo of whether or
not we should buy the Denver Broncos a tax funded
stadium when we already had one. And now that we
have new ownership and the bonds are paid off for
the for the my high stadium whatever it's called, this week,
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it's time to buy him a new one. And I'm thinking,
good god, you know, this is not a core function
of government to give gifts to football monopolies. But here's
the reality. They're going to wait until there's a winning
season or two, something that's very hopeful, maybe high into
the playoffs, and then they're going to come in with
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what they did last time, we need a new stadium.
Here's the plan. They're going to have all the guys
from all the chambers of commerce and all the other
crony experts showing us study after a study that once
this thing opens, you know, every dollar we spend is
gonna give us three thousand dollars worth of return. It'll
pay for itself. You know, after the first game, it's
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gonna be incredible, and all the usual crapple, but here's
the reality. As much as I would like the people
of the Denver metro area to go, excuse me, billionaires,
buy your own stadiums. You know this is this is
not a core function. Fix our roads. That's a governmental function.
Entertainment not a governmental function. The reality is, and you
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know it too, Dan, this crazed football town, this sports town,
will buy them a new stadium. It's part of the
infrastructure en VID. They'll be this alluded to threat that
if you know, if we don't want them, you know
some you know, Omaha is gonna take them. There's gonna
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be the threat. They won't say it. They're gonna say, oh,
we hope to stay here. We have a rich history
in Denver. You know, we really want to. We're gonna
do everything we can to stay here. But without a stadium,
we can't guarantee it. And we're gonna say yes. The
taxpayers are gonna say yes because we'll get played. And
I'm thinking, if we're gonna get played like this, shouldn't
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we demand something in return? Isn't now the time for
football fans and taxpayers to say, all right, we will
give you a new stadium if X is completed, you know,
and I see this this game that's missed all the
time with school taxes. Reading levels stink, math level stink.
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Because they need more money, so they ask for more money.
And we don't make a conditional on anything. We never say,
all right, we'll approve the mill levey and we'll give
you a little bit upfront. But if in two years
test scores don't hit this level that we all agree on,
you're not going to get the next tranche of money.
(04:06):
You know, there should be something, There should be an
if then when it comes to when it comes to
this stuff, and so with a stadium. It sure seems
to me that the biggest problem in Denver right now
is that it's how to put it, it sucks. Denver
is ugly, It is littered, it is dangerous. It's full
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of fens andyl addicts and street people and they're vomiting
and you're indignating and defecating on the street. People are
losing their cars, people don't want to go downtown. Businesses
are going out of business because we're not enforcing the laws.
So how about this, how about And I know this
is unlikely to happen because it takes taxpayer organization and
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we're diffused interest and therefore we don't organize. How about
if we say listen, Denver bron Goes. You are now
in control. It is no longer the city government's city.
But you have the leverage. You have the leverage to
make the city do what they should do. So if
you get the city to clean up the litter, to
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enforce the laws, to get all the street people off
the street, to get crime levels down to this whatever
predetermined level, to get the shantytowns gone, and we can
see it by this level before the election, we will
give you your new stadium. But if we don't, Denver Broncos,
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we're not gonna give it to you. And you have
a beautiful stadium here that his own. It's not even
twenty five years old. It's barely old enough to drink.
It is still a young stadium. And compared to Rockies
Stadium Course Field, which I think is just a beautiful
field which will look more beautiful in fifty years, Denver
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Broncos Stadium was built to be torn down the minute
the last bond payment was made so that everybody could
make money off of taxpayers again. And if we're gonna
get ripped off like this, Let's get a clean city
out of it. That's all I'm saying. Let's yeah, is
clean the city first, Broncos first, first, Denver gets clean,
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then the football team.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I don't love that that would work in a bumper sticker.
John keldare our guest. You can see that piece in
the casette.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
See.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I love your creative thinking, right because I mean, we
all know that's not actually gonna happen, but it's worth
thinking about, right that that Hey, wait a second, there
should be some kind of trade off here, not necessarily
on the part of the Broncos, because you only vote
for this thing if you trust in this ownership group
and that you know they're going to do the things
they need to do in order to put a winning
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product on the field, et cetera.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
But just to leverage the city.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
But it's got to be more than just winning, Dan,
It's got to be if you we're going to have
a stadium, we want to go to the stadium and
feel like we're not going to get stabbed. We want
to park our car near the stadium and believe it's
going to be there when we get back. We want
to hang out after the game and before the game
and not feel like we're going to step on a
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human person while they're passed out on the on the street.
And so you know what bothers me about this is
that the I'm going to say blackmail, which is too
strong of a word, but the blackmail goes only in
one direction. You give us a new stadium. Otherwise the
Broncos are going to leave. That's the implicit. They will
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never put it just like that, but that's the threat.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
And how about, my friend, you're right, you're at your
steak eater.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Oh my god, is other food?
Speaker 2 (07:44):
I will I will take on your premise there, my friend,
I will bet you stake of your choosing because I
know your great taste.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
That the Broncos don't do that.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Here, and I know it's been done every other stadium
project in the history of America.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
I'll that you.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
We don't hear that here. But you're underline point remains
the same. You know, just your leveraged the city to
clean things up.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
For clarity, Dan, you're telling me you don't think the
Broncos are going to hold moving the team out of
Denver as a implicit, not an explicit, but an implicit threat.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Correct, I think this will be the first time in
the history of America team ownership does not do.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
That, but does tea Team ownership doesn't have to do it.
That's not the way that works. It is their proxies.
It's the guys on sports radio, it's the columnists, and
then it's the occasional editorial that does it. For So
the threat will be on, you know, unless unless the
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Bronco ownership group says, even if we lose this election
for a new stadium, we promise you we're not going anywhere.
And I don't think we're going to hear that. Do
you think they're going to say that, good question that
I'll put a steak of your choice on. Okay, and
you know what, I'm willing to go there. Wow, willing
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to go there.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
And I understand, John, history is on your side.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Every other ownership group in America has done what you
are predicting will be done here.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
I get it. I just have a hunch that this
ownership group is not going to do that.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
And by the way, I do agree these these are
exceptional people. I think the Walton family is a stand
up group of people. I've I've met the senior Walton
just wants a passing. And you know they they do
love this team, they do love the city. But you
know what, if they love this city, they too want
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it cleaned up. Oh they too want the litter gone,
the graffiti. I mean, these are measurable things. The graffiti
is measurable, litter is measurable, street people measurable. Crime certainly measurable.
These are all measurable things that we can say. If
these things go down to this level, then we Broncos
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because Mike, Mike Johnson's not going to listen to me.
Buddy is going to listen to the brons.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Should Yeah, oh you're right about that.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
And my final thought in the last few seconds, Sean,
is that I think they're going to build their own
little city there around this stadium, and it's going to
be a little utopia that they're going to run beautifully,
and it's going to look like all the great things
you describe, and they'll use private security to do it
in addition to the great men and women of DPD.
(10:35):
And I think they're going to build a beautiful thing there.
But love your creativity, love the idea, and appreciate you
spending time Dan.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Thank you so much. I really appreciate it, Thank you,
my friend.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
That is.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
And John, what's the best way for people to follow
you in the non creepy way?
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Now I'm on all the social media. Just go to
thinkfreedom dot org, get on our email list thinkfreedom dot
org and you can you can sign up for my
newsletter there.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Beautiful, Thank you my friend, appreciate that. And uh, cal Ryan,
John Kildera really is you know, he really is kind
of a Colorado treasure. And I put that in quotes
because David cof Copol had said that once in a piece.
But John really is kind of a Colorado treasure. Just
(11:24):
a force of nature and h and.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
A unique asset. And leave the et on there. You're
on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
And now back to the Dan Kapla Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Was his space visible? I mean, do they they have
any idea at this point who he is?
Speaker 3 (11:43):
They do not know who he is.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
They know he is a male, possibly white. He's wearing sunglasses,
he appears to have a mustache. And that picture has
been distributed to every police officer in New York City, particularly,
has been sent to the phones of the search teams
inside that building because whenever they encounter a group of people,
(12:08):
the first thing they have to figure out is is
that individual among these people hiding among victims or pretending
to be an office worker, because one thing you don't
want to have happen is to have this kind of
Gordon where you're trying to evacuate.
Speaker 6 (12:21):
You ran, Thank you, Ryan, And then Aaron Burnett repeats
it later on in that call.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Really she does.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Yeah, but it's possibly not anybody.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
You looked at that picture, yeah.
Speaker 6 (12:32):
Which was on the screen at the time that comment
was being made by John Miller.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Yeah, I mean the picture looked and we were watching
in real time, looked identical like Reggie Jackson, right, and
it was not Reggie Jackson obviously God, but yes, yes,
but it Remember naked gun was a naked gun too
that had Reggie Jackson in it.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Yeah, he was the he turn into a robot murderer.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
But my only point being the reflection on CNN, right,
the fact that this killer was black is no reflection
on any race whatsoever. We're just talking about accuracy in
broadcasting and in a position in a situation where where
it could have public safety implications, right, because you may
have somebody in that building watching CNN. Yeah, it's just crazy.
(13:17):
But what's really crazy? And if you just joined us,
thank you. You have a lot of different topics going please
jump in on any of them, but one of them
is and you know, if you've been kind enough to
listen to this show, I've been hammering on this for years,
how the Left hates guns more than it loves innocent
human life, and so the Left opposes having good guys
(13:38):
and good gales with guns there to save the innocent
when the monsters show up, and we see that in
our schools all the time. Drives me crazy that the
Left is willing to leave these children to their mass
murderers rather than put good guys and girls with guns
in there.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
And same thing. Look at New York. I read this
piece earlier. I won't read it in depth this time.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
But the security guard in this building, this is a
building that houses the NFL, and the security guard, who,
by all accounts is this wonderful forty six year old
man with young kids, happens to be African American security
guard unarmed. This is a New York Times version of
the story. Yeah, security guard unarmed and had to duck
(14:25):
behind a security desk to take cover because he was unarmed,
and then the monster shot him anyway, Yeah, crazy, crazy, crazy,
But we all know the reality, right that the monsters
who are going to commit these kind of crime, school shootings, etc.
They don't care about the laws against murders, so they're
not going to care about our gun loss.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
And we've got one big question. Are we going to
stand up and fight back? Are we going to be
there to protect the innocent or are we just going
to let him kill all they can. It's that simple,
And time after time after time the Left says they
get to kill all they can. How does that make
any sense? It doesn't.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
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text d A N five seven seven three or nine.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Thank you to John Caldera ahead of the Independence Institute,
who joined us to talk about his piece in the
Gazette last weekend saying, wait a second, if there's going
to be taxpayer funding of a new Broncos stadium in part,
then the Broncos need to lean on the city to
clean up the city. You know, there needs to be
some kind of deal struck here. So good creative thinking
by John. We got a stake. You heard it. Right, Ryan,
(15:34):
We've got the tape and and uh.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
And you know, I understand the odds are John's going
to win this bet, but I believe that I am.
And my bet is that the Broncos are never going
to threaten to leave in order to get tax payer help.
They may not even ask for tax pair help. Now, John,
being the very smart guy, he is maneuvered this into
an even more favorable.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Bet for himself.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
And and I I've committed to the ownership group affirmatively
stating that they are not going to leave regardless of
the outcome of the vote. And I think that is
what we'll hear. I'm not even sure they're going to
ask for taxpayer money.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
I think that we have won.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
The lottery in terms of ownership, and this Denver Bronco
ownership is different, you know, obviously the wealthiest ownership in
the league, but very high end and very fan oriented,
very winning oriented. And here's the key, right Ryan, very
legacy oriented, very legacy oriented. And once you get to
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the point, and everybody knows this from their own life,
once you get to the point where somebody is driven
by something other than another zero or two or ten
in their bank account, and they have resources, and they're
in a position to make something good happen. Once they
start making it happen, you know, for the right reason,
you know, to serve other people and or for their legacy,
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that's where a lot of really good things can happen
in hurry. I think that's the situation we're in with
this Bronco ownership group.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
I think we're going to see it play out that
way with the stadium. We'll find out together, right, And
if I turn out to be wrong, my guess is
somebody's gonna remind me on this very show, and you'll
make sure they do that right.
Speaker 6 (17:17):
It won't be just me, though, because the bet you have,
it'll be John Caldera.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Well I'd love just getting together with John and eating
some beef. But I have a hunch I'm gonna win
that bet, Texter says Dan John, is it right. I've
heard rumblings the Broncos are threatening to leave because of drugs,
crime and the homeless problem.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Now I know why. I do not believe that is
the case at all.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
What I do think we're going to see, and I
mentioned to John, is I think we're going to see
the Broncos build their own little city around this new stadium,
and it's gonna be kind of a utopia where you
aren't going to see this crime on the streets. It's
going to be clean. It's going to be the place
in Denver everybody wants to go. They'll use are off
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duty Denver's finest, they'll use their own private security. I
think they're going to build their own kind of close
to perfect as you can get city.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
What would that city need to look like?
Speaker 4 (18:13):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Congressman Jeff hurt kind enough to join us. Now, this
is a this is a bill I can get behind. Congressman,
you're introducing the Holy Sovereignty Protection Act to safeguard citizenship
for American popes. Congressmen, welcome back to the Dan Caplis Show.
Speaker 7 (18:32):
Dan, it's great to be with you again.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Now, Congressman, I've never asked you. Do you happen to
be Catholic?
Speaker 7 (18:39):
I am, yes, I'm Kethuics. At one point, actually, Dan,
I was planning to be a priest, hostanding to be
a seminary and until I met my now wife. So
you never know where God is going to lead in
and where life is going.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
To take you. Man, that is so true.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
I was in a seminary my high school years. Ironically, really,
I was in Quickly South Prep seminary, which was probably
I'm guessing three or four miles from where.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Now Pope Leo was living at the time.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
And he went to high school seminary the same time
I did, but he didn't go to my seminary close
to his parish. He instead went out of state, So
obviously a good move on his.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Part, right for sure.
Speaker 7 (19:19):
Well, and you never know, maybe your past cross at
a retreat or something like that.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Boy, you never know. But that's interesting. So you were
thinking of being a priest until you met your wife,
that's right.
Speaker 7 (19:31):
And now we have five kids, so it's you know,
I thought I had a vocation of priestig but turns
out I had a vocation in varied life. So and
now you know my cruise trajectory. And before I went
to Congress, Stan, I was an energy lawyer, so you
know I went my cruserajectory went from priest to lawyer.
It's a member of Congress. I'm not sure what the
trajectory looks like. It's if it's going up or down.
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But it's where life brought me. And it's an honor
to serve the people that they're in congressional district, in
such an awesome, wonderful district in this the greatest country
on earth.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Yeah, and there are so many different kinds of vocations, right,
Rix and Thomas on the show once and that he
was at the Vatican. I don't know if they were
in Saint Peter's, but he was. I think the Pope
was praying, and then he looked up and he saw
Rick and he said, you're a very important man. And
(20:25):
Rick said, no, I'm just a us senter and he said, no,
you have eight kids, right, and yeah, he said you're
a very important man.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
And so all different kinds of vocations, but.
Speaker 7 (20:35):
You're right, And the vocation to the parenthood is most honorable,
and it is indeed one of the most important ones
for sure, and it certainly is a blessing for me
and for my life to be parents to such wonderful children.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
And then I'm sure the Pope's grateful for this one.
The Holy Sovereignty Protection Act.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
So what does that do, Congressman.
Speaker 7 (20:57):
So it's a simple bill, Dan, that would make sure
that and an American becomes pope like Pope the other fourteenth,
he doesn't lose the citizenship or face unnecessary tax issues.
And I introduced it to protect religious freedom and make
sure that our laws don't punish someone for answering a
call to faith.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Wow, well it makes perfect sense to me. But if
you would explain to folks why it's even necessary.
Speaker 7 (21:20):
True, Well, right now, under law, when an individual becomes pope,
they are the head of a sovereign state, the Holy See,
the Vatican, and under American law, it's not necessarily it's
necessarily clear what will happen to their citizenship in America.
So this legislation ensures the pres that the Pope won't
lose his citizenship automatically simply because he becomes pope. And
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the other thing that it does is it ensures that
he doesn't have to pay taxes simply because you know that,
we don't want the US government imputing the assets of
the Vatican to this individual and hitting the pope with
a gigantic tax bill.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
So it's two pieces.
Speaker 7 (21:56):
One is, you know, protecting that religious sovereignty and the
religious freedom, and the other is just making sure that
there aren't unnecessarily unnecessary and unintended tax consequences. So and
it's definitely something I hadn't ever thought of. I will
tell you, Dan, and you probably know this as a
Catholic as well. I never dreamed that we would have
an American pope, but we have one now, and I
think this legislation is the right legislation for this historic event.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Well, I'm glad you're doing. I'm sure most people are
asking how did this come to be? Were you approached
by the Vaticans?
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Somebody there? Is this an idea got inspiration in the
middle of the night.
Speaker 7 (22:31):
Well, it was something that my staff and I talked about.
It was, you know, I actually was asked by the
Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, to go to Rome
for the Pope's first inaugural Mass, and so I was
honored to be part of that congressional delegation that was there.
And so during that time I felt like it was
something that was important to recognize. In talking with my
staff about it, we thought this would be a good
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bill that would ensure that no American has to choose
between their citizenship and their faith.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
A holy spirit inspired bill, possibly, I mean and for
those not familiar with the Catholic teaching, I know some
other Christian teaching. We believe very very deeply the Holy
Spirit is real and the Holy Spirit influences and so
know this is cool. Now, are you getting a lot
of support? Is this going to be a problem.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
No?
Speaker 7 (23:20):
I think the support I've gotten is great, including from
folks that I've known. You know, I went to Notre
Dame and I've got lots of Catholic circles and friends
that I know, And I've gotten a lot of positive
feedback from priests and religious and others, and you know,
they recognize that religious freedom is a core zone of
our constitution and it doesn't end at our borders or
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when someone takes on a global role in service to
their faith and to the church. And so I've gotten
a lot of positive feedback on this in this bill,
and the press has been very positive and a lot
of interviews, and I'm excited about getting some momentum and
moving forward in the legislative process.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
No.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
I love it because ideologically, as you say, with religious freedom,
that makes perfect sense. And then as a practical matter,
I think it's good for the United States way beyond
Catholics and Catholicism. To have an American pope, so great stuff.
It must feel strange to have a bill that everybody likes.
Speaker 7 (24:16):
That's right. Yeah, it's one of many bills that I'm running,
and some are are more controversial than others, but this
is certainly one that has gotten a lot of positive attention,
and I'm grateful for that.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Well, glad you're doing it. Hey, appreciate the time.
Speaker 7 (24:28):
Today, absolutely, Dan, it's great to talk to you. You
take care and God blessed. We'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Thank you. That's Congressman Jeff Hurd. Meat.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
I think people like that, Ryan. People like it when
there's something fresh and it's not the usual, you know,
political stuff, and it makes sense and it's practical.
Speaker 6 (24:45):
And yeah, little did you know you've had that in
common with Representative herd.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
That, Yeah, I did not know. I did not know
that he didn't either, and well.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
That he was doing perhaps becoming a priest, like you are.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Right, right, right right, And you know when I was
high school years planning to be a priest, I was
absolutely planning to be a priest. And then I was
blessed to get the Evans Scholarship. Then Caddy Shack Scholarship
they give to golf caddies. And my intent was always
to go back to the seminary after my time at CEU,
but probably not a big SeeU to the seminary pipeline,
(25:19):
though I've met a number of priests who or see
U students. But I think I told you maybe when
you're over at the house for dinner. I think I
told you that that before I met Amy, because I'm
in my mid thirties. Then I was thinking very seriously
of going back. You know, if I didn't meet just
(25:39):
you know, my soulmates, I wasn't the right person I
was supposed to marriage.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
So what you're saying is Amy was the last temptation
of Dan.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
I think there's too negative a cast on that.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
I don't my friend, I say no.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
I think I think it is that God led me
to my soulmates. Yes, the way I would look at it,
I mean, not to get soppy or anything, but yeah,
I was at thirty five, thirty six, I can't remember,
and I remember saying at one point, okay, God, I
promise send me, send me the right woman to marry,
and I won't screw it up. And he did and
(26:18):
I didn't, so good job, Dan. Yeah, well anyway, but yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
It's wild to think if I had not met her,
I may very well have gone back to the priesthood.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
I'm not saying they would have taken me, but I
would have.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Tried butterfly effect. Man.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Yeah, it's funny how that works, isn't it. Yeah? Yeah,
you think I would have been a good priest.
Speaker 6 (26:40):
You would have been awesome because you have a good
sense of humor, which I think all good priests do,
and you would have worked that in and made the
homilies real interesting in that way.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
So yeah, I think you would have been a very
adept at it.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Yeah, and my uncle, the priest, does a good role model.
Did I tell you?
Speaker 2 (26:56):
I called him one day and he answers the phone
and he's whispering, and I I go, father Roger, what's up?
Speaker 1 (27:02):
And he says, I'm in a confession. He says, I said,
I told him it was God.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
But that's the phenomena, all right?
Speaker 1 (27:15):
All right?
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Three oh three someone three eight two five five the
number talking about a whole lot of things, including if
the Broncos asked for public funding of the stadium, Are
you good with that?
Speaker 1 (27:23):
You're on the Dan Caplas Show.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Man, you are good at that, right, Yeah?
Speaker 3 (27:33):
I had that one teat up. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
I didn't ask for an angel, but I did ask
for my soulmate for.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
The pretty cool to marry Potato Potato.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
I think, yeah, yeah, no, that's right, good point text
or nice brag today? What did I brag about your wife?
Hopefully I had. I had a note here to brag
before the end of the show because I didn't get
one end today. Oh come on, so what was it?
Speaker 3 (28:00):
It was about Amy, as you should.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
That is brag if I'm saying great things about her. Yeah,
that's a me brag.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
No, No, that's just a brag. It's good.
Speaker 6 (28:11):
I think it's a it's warranted. I thought you could
a propos thank you. Yeah, oh yeah, a proposal. I
thought you could only brag about yourself. Well that would
be Now there's certain types of bragging in what they
might be alleging, which is not the case. A humble
brag where you kind of bring something up and yourself
sound like you know what.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
You know, if you're going to brag, just do it,
Just do it. Yeah, yeah, at least when I virtue signal?
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Don't we have to? We recorded a virtue signal alert.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Right, didn't It's somewhere in the archives.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
We got to dust it off. Okay, get back to
using it again. Yeah, okay, well, thank you.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Text. We should be a little more specific, Dan, I
assume the plan would be to tear down the current
stadium when the new one is ready. But do we
have to?
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Could we pull the plug on the new stadium for
the women's soccer team, maybe get a few really big
games so the Rapids played there, promote rugby, play DPS
games there to invigorate their athletics, have even more concerts
in town. And on interesting question, when this new stadium
gets built, and it will and I will predict right now.
And this is not pollyannish pie in the sky. This
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is grounded in reality. It is going to be the
greatest physical thing to ever happen in Colorado. It is
going to be mark my words, this isn't just gonna
be a new Bronco stadium. This is going to be
a mini city that's gonna be as close to a
utopia as.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
You can imagine. You're gonna have your apartments.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
You're gonna have your condos, You're gonna have your stores,
You're gonna have your grocery store, You're gonna have all
this stuff. You're gonna have the stadium with the retractable
roof in the middle of it. But the stadium is
gonna house plenty of other things as well, and it's
gonna be incredibly safe. The whole area is. And what
do you think they'll name Broncoville. I mean, it's gonna
be incredibly safe and clean. And you know, that's just
(30:03):
the way this ownership group operates at a very very
high level, and they're very into legacy in a positive way.
That's a great thing, you know, when it's not about
you know, how many zeros in the bank account and
every extra dollar. It's about you know, contributing and building
this legacy and being remembered for great things. That's when
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a lot of great things happen. So what do you
think this city within the city is going to be named?
Speaker 6 (30:29):
Oh man, that's a great question, and we should crowdsource
that to our Texters.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
We should. Yeah, we should d a N five seven,
seven thirty nine. And next good idea I have, I'll
bring up earlier than the last minute of the show,
But yeah, what what would you name this new city?
Speaker 3 (30:44):
So?
Speaker 2 (30:45):
And then on the issue that triggered this today, which
is John Kildare's great piece in the gazette about hey,
make a deal with the city in exchange for taxpayer funding.
I'm not at all sure the Broncos they're even going
to ask for it, and don't be shocked if they don't. Now,
every other ownership group has that I can think of,
and if they do, that's fine too, but don't be
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shocked if they don't.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Yeah, so what would you name it?
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Well, I don't know. I mean the top of my head.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
But what I like. What I like is that this
city within a city, this city that's going to be
kind of a mini utopia as much as any human
endeavor can be.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
That you could have an echo effect on the city
as a whole, because once you see what it can
be like, then maybe they'll be more demand from the
people of Denver for the rest of Denver to be
like that. And the only thing stopping it right is
our lefty politicians.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Yeah, I love it. They're going to create this real
world example right in the heart of Denver of what
it can look like.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Yeah, it's going to be fun to watch under So
what are you looking forward to tomorrow? Ryan, you have
your own great show two to four, and then this
show follows that.
Speaker 6 (32:06):
Yeah, you'll know this name, Grover Norquist. He's the president
of the Americans for Tax re Forming. To talk to
him about what the one big, Beautiful Bill means for
all of us as taxpayers. And then also AI in
the classroom, how much is too much? And do you
need some from no Ma, he's the co founder of Numerid,
sort of go inside the classroom talking about that. I
(32:26):
know as a substitute teacher in the early two thousands
in Virginia, it was just kind of leaning into the
big cell phone boom, just before there were smartphones and
I collected phones at the door those kids that had
and there weren't many there are now, And it should
have been a.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Policy all a lote.
Speaker 6 (32:41):
No kid should have a cell phone on their person
in a classroom.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Oh my book, so true.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
But the AI thing, Yeah, I mean, you know our
son Joe, as you know, he just finished up his
summer job in d C.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
He's about to start his third year in law school.
And just talking to him.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
I mean this AI stuff and the stuff he's working
on this summer and the stuff that's come in and
everything else.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
I think I think it was Elon Musk who said.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
It right that every kid out there right now should
be spending all of their free time on AI.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Now. I still think they should be doing sports and
going to church and.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Everything else first, but but yeah, I mean, it is
already so transformative.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
It's the way of the future and the present.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Really, yeah, And I'm trying to get I can't stay
ahead of it. If I was getting ahead of it,
that would have been three years ago. But I'm doing
everything I can right now to just try to get
caught up and then ahead on AI, because I don't
think most of us, with our busy lives right now,
have any grasp whatsoever on how transformative it's going to be.
It's going to be so transformative. We need a better
(33:46):
word than transformative. What is a better word than transformative? Hmm, revolutionary?
Speaker 1 (33:53):
There it is, Yeah, it's it's going to be.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
It is an AI revolution.
Speaker 6 (33:58):
I think I've heard it called that too, because it
will change the face of everything we do and how
we do.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
It well and you know, we've got a thousand different
ways we can look at this, but one starting with Okay,
what does that mean right now? If your kid's coming
to you, or you are a kid and you're thinking
about your future career path.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
What does that mean?
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Well, you got to be looking at what AI cannot replace, right,
And I think we're going to see and I'm trying
to look for some investments, etc.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
That feed off of this, because it's nice to, you know,
do well by doing good.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
But I think we're going to see an explosion in
the trades, right, Just an explosion in the trades, and
all of society benefits from that. And those are jobs.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
I mean, AI will enhance the performance, but can't replace
those jobs.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
So Ryan, great job, Kelly, you as well. Thanks to
John Caldera, Congressman Jeff Hurd for joining us. Please join
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
Is it the American way for taxpayers to fund football stadiums?
We're going to talk about that with John Keldera, President
of the Independence Institute, host of The Devil's Advocate with
John Keldera. John, welcome back to the Dan Caplis Show.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Dan, good to be here.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Thank you well, thank you for your piece. You know, John,
if you're new to John KELDERA has this tremendous blend
of intellect and humor that is really unique in the marketplace.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
And I think it's intellected immaturity. But thank you for
the compliment.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Well, and the immaturity can be part of the humor, right,
but it's always feigned immaturity and it makes it even
more fun. But let me throw creativity in there as well,
because this is a really creative concept you've come up
with for public funding if any of a new stadium. So,
my friend, please take the floor and run and tell
people about your idea.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I cannot believe it has been less than twenty five
years when we had this big hullabaloo of whether or
not we should buy the Denver Broncos a tax funded
stadium when we already had one. And now that we
have new ownership and the bonds are paid off for
the for the my high stadium whatever it's called, this week,
(01:29):
it's time to buy him a new one. And I'm thinking,
good god, you know, this is not a core function
of government to give gifts to football monopolies. But here's
the reality. They're going to wait until there's a winning
season or two, something that's very hopeful, maybe high into
the playoffs, and then they're going to come in with
(01:51):
what they did last time, we need a new stadium.
Here's the plan. They're going to have all the guys
from all the chambers of commerce and all the other
crony experts showing us study after a study that once
this thing opens, you know, every dollar we spend is
gonna give us three thousand dollars worth of return. It'll
pay for itself. You know, after the first game, it's
(02:13):
gonna be incredible, and all the usual crapple, but here's
the reality. As much as I would like the people
of the Denver metro area to go, excuse me, billionaires,
buy your own stadiums. You know this is this is
not a core function. Fix our roads. That's a governmental function.
Entertainment not a governmental function. The reality is, and you
(02:35):
know it too, Dan, this crazed football town, this sports town,
will buy them a new stadium. It's part of the
infrastructure en VID. They'll be this alluded to threat that
if you know, if we don't want them, you know
some you know, Omaha is gonna take them. There's gonna
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be the threat. They won't say it. They're gonna say, oh,
we hope to stay here. We have a rich history
in Denver. You know, we really want to. We're gonna
do everything we can to stay here. But without a stadium,
we can't guarantee it. And we're gonna say yes. The
taxpayers are gonna say yes because we'll get played. And
I'm thinking, if we're gonna get played like this, shouldn't
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we demand something in return? Isn't now the time for
football fans and taxpayers to say, all right, we will
give you a new stadium if X is completed, you know,
and I see this this game that's missed all the
time with school taxes. Reading levels stink, math level stink.
(03:45):
Because they need more money, so they ask for more money.
And we don't make a conditional on anything. We never say,
all right, we'll approve the mill levey and we'll give
you a little bit upfront. But if in two years
test scores don't hit this level that we all agree on,
you're not going to get the next tranche of money.
(04:06):
You know, there should be something, There should be an
if then when it comes to when it comes to
this stuff, and so with a stadium. It sure seems
to me that the biggest problem in Denver right now
is that it's how to put it, it sucks. Denver
is ugly, It is littered, it is dangerous. It's full
(04:27):
of fens andyl addicts and street people and they're vomiting
and you're indignating and defecating on the street. People are
losing their cars, people don't want to go downtown. Businesses
are going out of business because we're not enforcing the laws.
So how about this, how about And I know this
is unlikely to happen because it takes taxpayer organization and
(04:49):
we're diffused interest and therefore we don't organize. How about
if we say listen, Denver bron Goes. You are now
in control. It is no longer the city government's city.
But you have the leverage. You have the leverage to
make the city do what they should do. So if
you get the city to clean up the litter, to
(05:12):
enforce the laws, to get all the street people off
the street, to get crime levels down to this whatever
predetermined level, to get the shantytowns gone, and we can
see it by this level before the election, we will
give you your new stadium. But if we don't, Denver Broncos,
(05:35):
we're not gonna give it to you. And you have
a beautiful stadium here that his own. It's not even
twenty five years old. It's barely old enough to drink.
It is still a young stadium. And compared to Rockies
Stadium Course Field, which I think is just a beautiful
field which will look more beautiful in fifty years, Denver
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Broncos Stadium was built to be torn down the minute
the last bond payment was made so that everybody could
make money off of taxpayers again. And if we're gonna
get ripped off like this, Let's get a clean city
out of it. That's all I'm saying. Let's yeah, is
clean the city first, Broncos first, first, Denver gets clean,
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then the football team.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I don't love that that would work in a bumper sticker.
John keldare our guest. You can see that piece in
the casette.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
See.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I love your creative thinking, right because I mean, we
all know that's not actually gonna happen, but it's worth
thinking about, right that that Hey, wait a second, there
should be some kind of trade off here, not necessarily
on the part of the Broncos, because you only vote
for this thing if you trust in this ownership group
and that you know they're going to do the things
they need to do in order to put a winning
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product on the field, et cetera.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
But just to leverage the city.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
But it's got to be more than just winning, Dan,
It's got to be if you we're going to have
a stadium, we want to go to the stadium and
feel like we're not going to get stabbed. We want
to park our car near the stadium and believe it's
going to be there when we get back. We want
to hang out after the game and before the game
and not feel like we're going to step on a
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human person while they're passed out on the on the street.
And so you know what bothers me about this is
that the I'm going to say blackmail, which is too
strong of a word, but the blackmail goes only in
one direction. You give us a new stadium. Otherwise the
Broncos are going to leave. That's the implicit. They will
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never put it just like that, but that's the threat.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
And how about, my friend, you're right, you're at your
steak eater.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Oh my god, is other food?
Speaker 2 (07:44):
I will I will take on your premise there, my friend,
I will bet you stake of your choosing because I
know your great taste.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
That the Broncos don't do that.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Here, and I know it's been done every other stadium
project in the history of America.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
I'll that you.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
We don't hear that here. But you're underline point remains
the same. You know, just your leveraged the city to
clean things up.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
For clarity, Dan, you're telling me you don't think the
Broncos are going to hold moving the team out of
Denver as a implicit, not an explicit, but an implicit threat.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Correct, I think this will be the first time in
the history of America team ownership does not do.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
That, but does tea Team ownership doesn't have to do it.
That's not the way that works. It is their proxies.
It's the guys on sports radio, it's the columnists, and
then it's the occasional editorial that does it. For So
the threat will be on, you know, unless unless the
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Bronco ownership group says, even if we lose this election
for a new stadium, we promise you we're not going anywhere.
And I don't think we're going to hear that. Do
you think they're going to say that, good question that
I'll put a steak of your choice on. Okay, and
you know what, I'm willing to go there. Wow, willing
(09:10):
to go there.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
And I understand, John, history is on your side.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Every other ownership group in America has done what you
are predicting will be done here.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
I get it. I just have a hunch that this
ownership group is not going to do that.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
And by the way, I do agree these these are
exceptional people. I think the Walton family is a stand
up group of people. I've I've met the senior Walton
just wants a passing. And you know they they do
love this team, they do love the city. But you
know what, if they love this city, they too want
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it cleaned up. Oh they too want the litter gone,
the graffiti. I mean, these are measurable things. The graffiti
is measurable, litter is measurable, street people measurable. Crime certainly measurable.
These are all measurable things that we can say. If
these things go down to this level, then we Broncos
(10:08):
because Mike, Mike Johnson's not going to listen to me.
Buddy is going to listen to the brons.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Should Yeah, oh you're right about that.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
And my final thought in the last few seconds, Sean,
is that I think they're going to build their own
little city there around this stadium, and it's going to
be a little utopia that they're going to run beautifully,
and it's going to look like all the great things
you describe, and they'll use private security to do it
in addition to the great men and women of DPD.
(10:35):
And I think they're going to build a beautiful thing there.
But love your creativity, love the idea, and appreciate you
spending time Dan.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Thank you so much. I really appreciate it, Thank you,
my friend.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
That is.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
And John, what's the best way for people to follow
you in the non creepy way?
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Now I'm on all the social media. Just go to
thinkfreedom dot org, get on our email list thinkfreedom dot
org and you can you can sign up for my
newsletter there.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Beautiful, Thank you my friend, appreciate that. And uh, cal Ryan,
John Kildera really is you know, he really is kind
of a Colorado treasure. And I put that in quotes
because David cof Copol had said that once in a piece.
But John really is kind of a Colorado treasure. Just
(11:24):
a force of nature and h and.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
A unique asset. And leave the et on there. You're
on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
And now back to the Dan Kapla Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Was his space visible? I mean, do they they have
any idea at this point who he is?
Speaker 3 (11:43):
They do not know who he is.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
They know he is a male, possibly white. He's wearing sunglasses,
he appears to have a mustache. And that picture has
been distributed to every police officer in New York City, particularly,
has been sent to the phones of the search teams
inside that building because whenever they encounter a group of people,
(12:08):
the first thing they have to figure out is is
that individual among these people hiding among victims or pretending
to be an office worker, because one thing you don't
want to have happen is to have this kind of
Gordon where you're trying to evacuate.
Speaker 6 (12:21):
You ran, Thank you, Ryan, And then Aaron Burnett repeats
it later on in that call.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Really she does.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Yeah, but it's possibly not anybody.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
You looked at that picture, yeah.
Speaker 6 (12:32):
Which was on the screen at the time that comment
was being made by John Miller.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Yeah, I mean the picture looked and we were watching
in real time, looked identical like Reggie Jackson, right, and
it was not Reggie Jackson obviously God, but yes, yes,
but it Remember naked gun was a naked gun too
that had Reggie Jackson in it.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Yeah, he was the he turn into a robot murderer.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
But my only point being the reflection on CNN, right,
the fact that this killer was black is no reflection
on any race whatsoever. We're just talking about accuracy in
broadcasting and in a position in a situation where where
it could have public safety implications, right, because you may
have somebody in that building watching CNN. Yeah, it's just crazy.
(13:17):
But what's really crazy? And if you just joined us,
thank you. You have a lot of different topics going please
jump in on any of them, but one of them
is and you know, if you've been kind enough to
listen to this show, I've been hammering on this for years,
how the Left hates guns more than it loves innocent
human life, and so the Left opposes having good guys
(13:38):
and good gales with guns there to save the innocent
when the monsters show up, and we see that in
our schools all the time. Drives me crazy that the
Left is willing to leave these children to their mass
murderers rather than put good guys and girls with guns
in there.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
And same thing. Look at New York. I read this
piece earlier. I won't read it in depth this time.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
But the security guard in this building, this is a
building that houses the NFL, and the security guard, who,
by all accounts is this wonderful forty six year old
man with young kids, happens to be African American security
guard unarmed. This is a New York Times version of
the story. Yeah, security guard unarmed and had to duck
(14:25):
behind a security desk to take cover because he was unarmed,
and then the monster shot him anyway, Yeah, crazy, crazy, crazy,
But we all know the reality, right that the monsters
who are going to commit these kind of crime, school shootings, etc.
They don't care about the laws against murders, so they're
not going to care about our gun loss.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
And we've got one big question. Are we going to
stand up and fight back? Are we going to be
there to protect the innocent or are we just going
to let him kill all they can. It's that simple,
And time after time after time the Left says they
get to kill all they can. How does that make
any sense? It doesn't.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Three all three seven one three eight two five five
text d A N five seven seven three or nine.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Thank you to John Caldera ahead of the Independence Institute,
who joined us to talk about his piece in the
Gazette last weekend saying, wait a second, if there's going
to be taxpayer funding of a new Broncos stadium in part,
then the Broncos need to lean on the city to
clean up the city. You know, there needs to be
some kind of deal struck here. So good creative thinking
by John. We got a stake. You heard it. Right, Ryan,
(15:34):
We've got the tape and and uh.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
And you know, I understand the odds are John's going
to win this bet, but I believe that I am.
And my bet is that the Broncos are never going
to threaten to leave in order to get tax payer help.
They may not even ask for tax pair help. Now, John,
being the very smart guy, he is maneuvered this into
an even more favorable.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Bet for himself.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
And and I I've committed to the ownership group affirmatively
stating that they are not going to leave regardless of
the outcome of the vote. And I think that is
what we'll hear. I'm not even sure they're going to
ask for taxpayer money.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
I think that we have won.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
The lottery in terms of ownership, and this Denver Bronco
ownership is different, you know, obviously the wealthiest ownership in
the league, but very high end and very fan oriented,
very winning oriented. And here's the key, right Ryan, very
legacy oriented, very legacy oriented. And once you get to
(16:38):
the point, and everybody knows this from their own life,
once you get to the point where somebody is driven
by something other than another zero or two or ten
in their bank account, and they have resources, and they're
in a position to make something good happen. Once they
start making it happen, you know, for the right reason,
you know, to serve other people and or for their legacy,
(16:58):
that's where a lot of really good things can happen
in hurry. I think that's the situation we're in with
this Bronco ownership group.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
I think we're going to see it play out that
way with the stadium. We'll find out together, right, And
if I turn out to be wrong, my guess is
somebody's gonna remind me on this very show, and you'll
make sure they do that right.
Speaker 6 (17:17):
It won't be just me, though, because the bet you have,
it'll be John Caldera.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Well I'd love just getting together with John and eating
some beef. But I have a hunch I'm gonna win
that bet, Texter says Dan John, is it right. I've
heard rumblings the Broncos are threatening to leave because of drugs,
crime and the homeless problem.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Now I know why. I do not believe that is
the case at all.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
What I do think we're going to see, and I
mentioned to John, is I think we're going to see
the Broncos build their own little city around this new stadium,
and it's gonna be kind of a utopia where you
aren't going to see this crime on the streets. It's
going to be clean. It's going to be the place
in Denver everybody wants to go. They'll use are off
(18:00):
duty Denver's finest, they'll use their own private security. I
think they're going to build their own kind of close
to perfect as you can get city.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
What would that city need to look like?
Speaker 4 (18:13):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Congressman Jeff hurt kind enough to join us. Now, this
is a this is a bill I can get behind. Congressman,
you're introducing the Holy Sovereignty Protection Act to safeguard citizenship
for American popes. Congressmen, welcome back to the Dan Caplis Show.
Speaker 7 (18:32):
Dan, it's great to be with you again.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Now, Congressman, I've never asked you. Do you happen to
be Catholic?
Speaker 7 (18:39):
I am, yes, I'm Kethuics. At one point, actually, Dan,
I was planning to be a priest, hostanding to be
a seminary and until I met my now wife. So
you never know where God is going to lead in
and where life is going.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
To take you. Man, that is so true.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
I was in a seminary my high school years. Ironically, really,
I was in Quickly South Prep seminary, which was probably
I'm guessing three or four miles from where.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Now Pope Leo was living at the time.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
And he went to high school seminary the same time
I did, but he didn't go to my seminary close
to his parish. He instead went out of state, So
obviously a good move on his.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Part, right for sure.
Speaker 7 (19:19):
Well, and you never know, maybe your past cross at
a retreat or something like that.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Boy, you never know. But that's interesting. So you were
thinking of being a priest until you met your wife,
that's right.
Speaker 7 (19:31):
And now we have five kids, so it's you know,
I thought I had a vocation of priestig but turns
out I had a vocation in varied life. So and
now you know my cruise trajectory. And before I went
to Congress, Stan, I was an energy lawyer, so you
know I went my cruserajectory went from priest to lawyer.
It's a member of Congress. I'm not sure what the
trajectory looks like. It's if it's going up or down.
(19:52):
But it's where life brought me. And it's an honor
to serve the people that they're in congressional district, in
such an awesome, wonderful district in this the greatest country
on earth.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Yeah, and there are so many different kinds of vocations, right,
Rix and Thomas on the show once and that he
was at the Vatican. I don't know if they were
in Saint Peter's, but he was. I think the Pope
was praying, and then he looked up and he saw
Rick and he said, you're a very important man. And
(20:25):
Rick said, no, I'm just a us senter and he said, no,
you have eight kids, right, and yeah, he said you're
a very important man.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
And so all different kinds of vocations, but.
Speaker 7 (20:35):
You're right, And the vocation to the parenthood is most honorable,
and it is indeed one of the most important ones
for sure, and it certainly is a blessing for me
and for my life to be parents to such wonderful children.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
And then I'm sure the Pope's grateful for this one.
The Holy Sovereignty Protection Act.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
So what does that do, Congressman.
Speaker 7 (20:57):
So it's a simple bill, Dan, that would make sure
that and an American becomes pope like Pope the other fourteenth,
he doesn't lose the citizenship or face unnecessary tax issues.
And I introduced it to protect religious freedom and make
sure that our laws don't punish someone for answering a
call to faith.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Wow, well it makes perfect sense to me. But if
you would explain to folks why it's even necessary.
Speaker 7 (21:20):
True, Well, right now, under law, when an individual becomes pope,
they are the head of a sovereign state, the Holy See,
the Vatican, and under American law, it's not necessarily it's
necessarily clear what will happen to their citizenship in America.
So this legislation ensures the pres that the Pope won't
lose his citizenship automatically simply because he becomes pope. And
(21:41):
the other thing that it does is it ensures that
he doesn't have to pay taxes simply because you know that,
we don't want the US government imputing the assets of
the Vatican to this individual and hitting the pope with
a gigantic tax bill.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
So it's two pieces.
Speaker 7 (21:56):
One is, you know, protecting that religious sovereignty and the
religious freedom, and the other is just making sure that
there aren't unnecessarily unnecessary and unintended tax consequences. So and
it's definitely something I hadn't ever thought of. I will
tell you, Dan, and you probably know this as a
Catholic as well. I never dreamed that we would have
an American pope, but we have one now, and I
think this legislation is the right legislation for this historic event.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
Well, I'm glad you're doing. I'm sure most people are
asking how did this come to be? Were you approached
by the Vaticans?
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Somebody there? Is this an idea got inspiration in the
middle of the night.
Speaker 7 (22:31):
Well, it was something that my staff and I talked about.
It was, you know, I actually was asked by the
Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, to go to Rome
for the Pope's first inaugural Mass, and so I was
honored to be part of that congressional delegation that was there.
And so during that time I felt like it was
something that was important to recognize. In talking with my
staff about it, we thought this would be a good
(22:53):
bill that would ensure that no American has to choose
between their citizenship and their faith.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
A holy spirit inspired bill, possibly, I mean and for
those not familiar with the Catholic teaching, I know some
other Christian teaching. We believe very very deeply the Holy
Spirit is real and the Holy Spirit influences and so
know this is cool. Now, are you getting a lot
of support? Is this going to be a problem.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
No?
Speaker 7 (23:20):
I think the support I've gotten is great, including from
folks that I've known. You know, I went to Notre
Dame and I've got lots of Catholic circles and friends
that I know, And I've gotten a lot of positive
feedback from priests and religious and others, and you know,
they recognize that religious freedom is a core zone of
our constitution and it doesn't end at our borders or
(23:41):
when someone takes on a global role in service to
their faith and to the church. And so I've gotten
a lot of positive feedback on this in this bill,
and the press has been very positive and a lot
of interviews, and I'm excited about getting some momentum and
moving forward in the legislative process.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
No.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
I love it because ideologically, as you say, with religious freedom,
that makes perfect sense. And then as a practical matter,
I think it's good for the United States way beyond
Catholics and Catholicism. To have an American pope, so great stuff.
It must feel strange to have a bill that everybody likes.
Speaker 7 (24:16):
That's right. Yeah, it's one of many bills that I'm running,
and some are are more controversial than others, but this
is certainly one that has gotten a lot of positive attention,
and I'm grateful for that.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Well, glad you're doing it. Hey, appreciate the time.
Speaker 7 (24:28):
Today, absolutely, Dan, it's great to talk to you. You
take care and God blessed. We'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Thank you. That's Congressman Jeff Hurd. Meat.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
I think people like that, Ryan. People like it when
there's something fresh and it's not the usual, you know,
political stuff, and it makes sense and it's practical.
Speaker 6 (24:45):
And yeah, little did you know you've had that in
common with Representative herd.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
That, Yeah, I did not know. I did not know
that he didn't either, and well.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
That he was doing perhaps becoming a priest, like you are.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Right, right, right right, And you know when I was
high school years planning to be a priest, I was
absolutely planning to be a priest. And then I was
blessed to get the Evans Scholarship. Then Caddy Shack Scholarship
they give to golf caddies. And my intent was always
to go back to the seminary after my time at CEU,
but probably not a big SeeU to the seminary pipeline,
(25:19):
though I've met a number of priests who or see
U students. But I think I told you maybe when
you're over at the house for dinner. I think I
told you that that before I met Amy, because I'm
in my mid thirties. Then I was thinking very seriously
of going back. You know, if I didn't meet just
(25:39):
you know, my soulmates, I wasn't the right person I
was supposed to marriage.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
So what you're saying is Amy was the last temptation
of Dan.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
I think there's too negative a cast on that.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
I don't my friend, I say no.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
I think I think it is that God led me
to my soulmates. Yes, the way I would look at it,
I mean, not to get soppy or anything, but yeah,
I was at thirty five, thirty six, I can't remember,
and I remember saying at one point, okay, God, I
promise send me, send me the right woman to marry,
and I won't screw it up. And he did and
(26:18):
I didn't, so good job, Dan. Yeah, well anyway, but yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
It's wild to think if I had not met her,
I may very well have gone back to the priesthood.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
I'm not saying they would have taken me, but I
would have.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Tried butterfly effect. Man.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Yeah, it's funny how that works, isn't it. Yeah? Yeah,
you think I would have been a good priest.
Speaker 6 (26:40):
You would have been awesome because you have a good
sense of humor, which I think all good priests do,
and you would have worked that in and made the
homilies real interesting in that way.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
So yeah, I think you would have been a very
adept at it.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Yeah, and my uncle, the priest, does a good role model.
Did I tell you?
Speaker 2 (26:56):
I called him one day and he answers the phone
and he's whispering, and I I go, father Roger, what's up?
Speaker 1 (27:02):
And he says, I'm in a confession. He says, I said,
I told him it was God.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
But that's the phenomena, all right?
Speaker 1 (27:15):
All right?
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Three oh three someone three eight two five five the
number talking about a whole lot of things, including if
the Broncos asked for public funding of the stadium, Are
you good with that?
Speaker 1 (27:23):
You're on the Dan Caplas Show.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Man, you are good at that, right, Yeah?
Speaker 3 (27:33):
I had that one teat up. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
I didn't ask for an angel, but I did ask
for my soulmate for.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
The pretty cool to marry Potato Potato.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
I think, yeah, yeah, no, that's right, good point text
or nice brag today? What did I brag about your wife?
Hopefully I had. I had a note here to brag
before the end of the show because I didn't get
one end today. Oh come on, so what was it?
Speaker 3 (28:00):
It was about Amy, as you should.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
That is brag if I'm saying great things about her. Yeah,
that's a me brag.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
No, No, that's just a brag. It's good.
Speaker 6 (28:11):
I think it's a it's warranted. I thought you could
a propos thank you. Yeah, oh yeah, a proposal. I
thought you could only brag about yourself. Well that would
be Now there's certain types of bragging in what they
might be alleging, which is not the case. A humble
brag where you kind of bring something up and yourself
sound like you know what.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
You know, if you're going to brag, just do it,
Just do it. Yeah, yeah, at least when I virtue signal?
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Don't we have to? We recorded a virtue signal alert.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Right, didn't It's somewhere in the archives.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
We got to dust it off. Okay, get back to
using it again. Yeah, okay, well, thank you.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Text. We should be a little more specific, Dan, I
assume the plan would be to tear down the current
stadium when the new one is ready. But do we
have to?
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Could we pull the plug on the new stadium for
the women's soccer team, maybe get a few really big
games so the Rapids played there, promote rugby, play DPS
games there to invigorate their athletics, have even more concerts
in town. And on interesting question, when this new stadium
gets built, and it will and I will predict right now.
And this is not pollyannish pie in the sky. This
(29:18):
is grounded in reality. It is going to be the
greatest physical thing to ever happen in Colorado. It is
going to be mark my words, this isn't just gonna
be a new Bronco stadium. This is going to be
a mini city that's gonna be as close to a
utopia as.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
You can imagine. You're gonna have your apartments.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
You're gonna have your condos, You're gonna have your stores,
You're gonna have your grocery store, You're gonna have all
this stuff. You're gonna have the stadium with the retractable
roof in the middle of it. But the stadium is
gonna house plenty of other things as well, and it's
gonna be incredibly safe. The whole area is. And what
do you think they'll name Broncoville. I mean, it's gonna
be incredibly safe and clean. And you know, that's just
(30:03):
the way this ownership group operates at a very very
high level, and they're very into legacy in a positive way.
That's a great thing, you know, when it's not about
you know, how many zeros in the bank account and
every extra dollar. It's about you know, contributing and building
this legacy and being remembered for great things. That's when
(30:24):
a lot of great things happen. So what do you
think this city within the city is going to be named?
Speaker 6 (30:29):
Oh man, that's a great question, and we should crowdsource
that to our Texters.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
We should. Yeah, we should d a N five seven,
seven thirty nine. And next good idea I have, I'll
bring up earlier than the last minute of the show,
But yeah, what what would you name this new city?
Speaker 3 (30:44):
So?
Speaker 2 (30:45):
And then on the issue that triggered this today, which
is John Kildare's great piece in the gazette about hey,
make a deal with the city in exchange for taxpayer funding.
I'm not at all sure the Broncos they're even going
to ask for it, and don't be shocked if they don't. Now,
every other ownership group has that I can think of,
and if they do, that's fine too, but don't be
(31:06):
shocked if they don't.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Yeah, so what would you name it?
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Well, I don't know. I mean the top of my head.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
But what I like. What I like is that this
city within a city, this city that's going to be
kind of a mini utopia as much as any human
endeavor can be.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
That you could have an echo effect on the city
as a whole, because once you see what it can
be like, then maybe they'll be more demand from the
people of Denver for the rest of Denver to be
like that. And the only thing stopping it right is
our lefty politicians.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Yeah, I love it. They're going to create this real
world example right in the heart of Denver of what
it can look like.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Yeah, it's going to be fun to watch under So
what are you looking forward to tomorrow? Ryan, you have
your own great show two to four, and then this
show follows that.
Speaker 6 (32:06):
Yeah, you'll know this name, Grover Norquist. He's the president
of the Americans for Tax re Forming. To talk to
him about what the one big, Beautiful Bill means for
all of us as taxpayers. And then also AI in
the classroom, how much is too much? And do you
need some from no Ma, he's the co founder of Numerid,
sort of go inside the classroom talking about that. I
(32:26):
know as a substitute teacher in the early two thousands
in Virginia, it was just kind of leaning into the
big cell phone boom, just before there were smartphones and
I collected phones at the door those kids that had
and there weren't many there are now, And it should
have been a.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Policy all a lote.
Speaker 6 (32:41):
No kid should have a cell phone on their person
in a classroom.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Oh my book, so true.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
But the AI thing, Yeah, I mean, you know our
son Joe, as you know, he just finished up his
summer job in d C.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
He's about to start his third year in law school.
And just talking to him.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
I mean this AI stuff and the stuff he's working
on this summer and the stuff that's come in and
everything else.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
I think I think it was Elon Musk who said.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
It right that every kid out there right now should
be spending all of their free time on AI.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Now. I still think they should be doing sports and
going to church and.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Everything else first, but but yeah, I mean, it is
already so transformative.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
It's the way of the future and the present.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Really, yeah, And I'm trying to get I can't stay
ahead of it. If I was getting ahead of it,
that would have been three years ago. But I'm doing
everything I can right now to just try to get
caught up and then ahead on AI, because I don't
think most of us, with our busy lives right now,
have any grasp whatsoever on how transformative it's going to be.
It's going to be so transformative. We need a better
(33:46):
word than transformative. What is a better word than transformative? Hmm, revolutionary?
Speaker 1 (33:53):
There it is, Yeah, it's it's going to be.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
It is an AI revolution.
Speaker 6 (33:58):
I think I've heard it called that too, because it
will change the face of everything we do and how
we do.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
It well and you know, we've got a thousand different
ways we can look at this, but one starting with Okay,
what does that mean right now? If your kid's coming
to you, or you are a kid and you're thinking
about your future career path.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
What does that mean?
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Well, you got to be looking at what AI cannot replace, right,
And I think we're going to see and I'm trying
to look for some investments, etc.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
That feed off of this, because it's nice to, you know,
do well by doing good.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
But I think we're going to see an explosion in
the trades, right, Just an explosion in the trades, and
all of society benefits from that. And those are jobs.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
I mean, AI will enhance the performance, but can't replace
those jobs.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
So Ryan, great job, Kelly, you as well. Thanks to
John Caldera, Congressman Jeff Hurd for joining us. Please join
us tomorrow at four on The Dan Kaplis Show.
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