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July 10, 2025 35 mins
It feels like eons since Dan was in studio and not in the courtroom, making his return not a moment too soon with so many news items in the headlines. He offers his takes on the Trump administration choosing to conceal identities within the so-called 'Epstein Files' and wades into the choppy waters of multiple sexual harassment allegations against Colorado state representative Ron Weinberg (R-51).
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Dan Kaplis, and welcome to today's online podcast
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in a courtroom, very often lately, and often it's on
Eric Glad you're here three h three someone three eight

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two five five the number text d An five seven
seven three nine. Thank you to the sheriff, Sheriff Steve
Reims and Heidiganol for filling in while I was once
again in court and very grateful for that. Feels like
I've been gone one hundred years and so much happens,
isn't it amazing? I mean compared to maybe even ten
years ago. So much happens in any twenty four to

(00:43):
seven cycle. And why because there is a twenty four
to seven cycle, and everybody competing for power, everybody competing
for whatever it is they want to obtain, whether it's
a good thing or a bad thing.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
You know, everybody's having to.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
Fill that cycle so they keep the edge and the
other guy doesn't get it. So wow, you miss a day,
You miss a lot. Wasn't that like forty years ago?
A Koait thing three h three someone three A two
five five techst d A N five seven.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Seven three nine. Well, start anywhere.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
You want to, because I haven't talked about any of
this on air for three days, and you know, I
want to lead personally with this Epstein thing. I know
we've got some hot stuff locally, so I want to
check in with Ryan on that before we go to Epstein.
But this Epstein thing, it intrigues me. But I think
it's a very important moment we're in and it has

(01:34):
to be handled right for lots of different reasons.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
My good friend Ryan, how you doing last time I
saw you?

Speaker 3 (01:40):
I wasn't Gonnau.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
Yes, yeah, since before the Independence Day holiday for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Crazy that good job not seeing fourth of July.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
Yeah, it's Independence Day. We got to keep that all
we do.

Speaker 4 (01:52):
Yes, Yes, And I was at the Convert Independence Day
parade and my small hometown of Grass Lake is always
really neat.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
To you the honor up there on the flow, No booddy.

Speaker 4 (02:01):
It was my high school baseball teammate and class of
ninety two classmate, Roger Cook, who is the head coach
of the Grasslake Warriors girls softball team, first time ever
state champions.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
Wonderful they should be. That's beautiful.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
Well, hey, let me get your quick take on something
before I go to this Epstein thing, which I'm just
dying to talk about. I've been following in the news
as best I can when you're doing trial prep and
everything else. I've I've been following these accusations, you know,
against state Representative Ron Weinberg. And now did he come

(02:38):
on with you or with or with share for.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
With Heidi over the last few days.

Speaker 4 (02:43):
No, there appears to be a legal barrier, which you'd
be very familiar with, but an adviceive counsel. He has
not come on to do a live interview.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
And I just want to make the point. This isn't
judging the representative one way or the other. But but
that is not a legal barrier in the sense that
he can that's a decision not to right and so
but I just wondered whether he had And so I
understand now if I have the lay of the land right,
You've got a couple of women who've been very active

(03:12):
in GOP circles who are claiming this this inappropriate kind
of conduct, including you know, telling one of the women
with her husband there, I'm gonna blank your wife, right.
And then there's this allegation now from Representative Brandy Bradley
as well, I'll play that sound okay.

Speaker 5 (03:31):
Well, I went to leadership about my own problems with
Representative Weinberger. I wasn't going to air that dirty laundry,
and they told me to file a workplace harassment against him,
and that was the only thing that I could do.
I have plenty more to say. I'm going to wait
and go to those proper channels. But Carolyn Wantberg sat
there and listened to her husband discuss jobs on another
representative that was at the table the last night's session,

(03:53):
and then talked about another representative who was waiting for
marriage to have intimate relations and she wasn't even at
the table. So for Carolyn to sit there and stand
by her man, which he has heard these things come forward,
will I am not going to sit here and let
her go nuclear on me and pretent like I am
the reason for his bad behavior. I will not do it.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Now.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
You've been all over this while I've been off to
I legal stuff. You've been all over this. What's your
take on it.

Speaker 4 (04:20):
Well, the clip prior to that, I think I've loaded
for you might be number one there and that pretty
much tells the entire story.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
Okay from the beginning. Now I thought I just played one.
Are we talking about two?

Speaker 3 (04:36):
Jacqueline? Is that in there?

Speaker 2 (04:38):
Oh? Jacqueline's three?

Speaker 5 (04:39):
Okay, Okay, yep, absolutely he's been inappropriate me and the
people are standing behind them.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
Okay, Well, that was worth listening to.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
Jacqueline Anderson is the name?

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Sorry? Am I a practice a little bit? A little bit.

Speaker 6 (04:50):
When we my husband and I both were a part
of the leadership program of the Rockies. I was class
of twenty one in which Ron was our class president.
My husband is class of twenty t twenty two. So
the two incidents in my victim statement reports were both
at events hosted by LPR. We you know, similar to this. Unfortunately,
it's one of those thingshere. Fortunately, I would say I

(05:12):
wasn't sexually assaulted. It wasn't like he physically did anything
to me, so it wasn't anything I felt like I
could report to the police and have anything done about it.
But similar if you're being harassed at work, you take
it to your HR. So when I heard of some
incidences happening. In twenty twenty two, my husband and I
decided to go forward and deal and speak with LPR leadership,

(05:34):
bring forward to them the attention of what had been happening,
you know, with his harassments, and at that time they
had a zoom call with us and they had told
us that they had decided the disciplinary action for Ron
would be that he would be no longer allowed to
attend any future LPR events. And at that time we
felt that was satisfactory. You know, we could appreciate that

(05:58):
we don't have to be in any spaces with him,
and that's great. So we just kind of moved on
with our lives, you know. Unfortunate that, you know, it
happens that you move on. Even though my husband and
I have stepped out of the political space over the
last few years and just led very quiet lives. I
know a lot of people still in the space who
are still fighting for our freedoms here in Colorado, and

(06:20):
I respect that they do. But when I hear stories
of young girls, young aids who are being harassed and
afraid to come forward. And then when I had found
out that he was running for whip, I said enough
is enough, and sometimes we just need to go ahead
and be bold and step forward and speak our truth
and say this is what happened, and hope that people

(06:40):
will feel safe and coming forward and telling their stories.
And I got to tell you, there are people in
our dms with information about their experience on the house
floor and the offices, and they're very scared to come forward,
and we're trying to help them, you know, be able
to do that in a safe space. But I'm tired
of hearing how how you know at the end of

(07:02):
the day, Listen, there's definitely a culture of burying harassment
in politics, and I'm just not willing to be complicit
in that anymore. And so that's why I came forward
with my statement two.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
Or three someone three eight two five five the number
text d A N five seven seven three nine. If
you have any take on that, you know, I'll let
me know. I hope the representative does join us at
some point.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
Well.

Speaker 4 (07:23):
Quick addendum, So I was talking about this earlier today
with Natalie Tenant, founder of Never Surrender. As this continues
to unfold and Representative Weinberg texted Sheriff Steve Reims, who
was talking about this to begin the week, and he
denies the assertion that you just heard from Jaqueline Anderson
that he was banned or barred or not welcome at
LPR events. Now that may be a matter of semantics,

(07:46):
but that was my understanding, and that's what Jacqueline said,
and that was the resolution to her and her husband's
satisfaction that that action was taken.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
Ron Weinberg denies that that's the case.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
So you know, subplot, everybody Steve, right, everybody talks to Steve.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
Yeah, he's a trusted source. That's a wonderful thing to
be right. Yeah, okay, man a great integrity and yeah,
quick note for context those who aren't familiar with it,
I think most people are leadership program of the Rockies
is awesome. But I was just sitting here thinking the
last time I was at one of their annual dinners
at the Broad Mart and it's just a great, great
force for good in Colorado. But I don't remember it

(08:28):
being so wild. I know it was a great event
and really liked it and loved going with my wife.
Had a chance to sit next to Laura Ingram at
one of the dinners.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Yeah, well that's kind of cool. Yeah, I had a
great chat.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
But yeah, anyway, so if you have a take on
all that, I'd be very interesting to see where it lands.
And again, hope the representative will will join us at
some point three or three someone three eight two five
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H Dan and Ryan. If someone said I'm going to

(09:03):
blank your wife, couldn't that be perceived as a threat
of rape, therefore illegal, especially if it was said twice. See,
I can't respond to that question because if somebody said
that about my wife, there'd be nothing left to discuss, right, Yeah,
that they would have taken their last breath and I'd
be in a.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Jail cell somewhere. So accurate, yeah, fair, Yeah, yeah, so wow,
some of these we can't read. I thought this was
a family show.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
It's tough with this topic.

Speaker 4 (09:35):
Yeah, yeah, I mean you heard I had to bleep
out something, Representative Bradley said, Yeah, based on the characterization
of something she heard Ron Weinberg say, at least according
to her.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
Yeah, I don't think you bleeped it very well, you
don't think I did. I think we all heard that. Well, yeah,
you heard that, I mean and did. There's no FCC
thing here because you, I mean, you don't have to
bleep that you were doing it to respect the sensitivities
of our audience. Correct, Yeah, referring to certain acts acts, Yes, yeah,
I think we all got the gist of it. Unless

(10:07):
there are other acts identified by two initials two letters.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
Yeah, yeah, we're going off the rails.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
But it is the perfect time to come back and
talk about Epstein because this thing is really important and
it just.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Goes back to the point, no human endeavor is perfect. Right.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
We have a presidency right now that that is going
as well or better than any presidency in my young lifetime,
and yet it's never going to be perfect. But this
Epstein thing, it's got to be fixed. Here on the
Dan Capla Show.

Speaker 7 (10:43):
And now back to the Dan Taplas Show podcast, I.

Speaker 8 (10:46):
Talked to President Trump man and man eye to eye
on Saint Patrick's Day about this and the Kennedy files
and the King files. It was all one conversation and
he said, and I agree. There are a lot of
names associated with Epstein had nothing to do with Epstein's conduct.
They maybe had lunch with him, or maybe had some
correspondence for one thing or another. If that name gets out,

(11:10):
those people are destroyed because it's not going to be
any context. Media doesn't care about context.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
So you can't do that.

Speaker 8 (11:18):
You can't destroy human beings by putting out the files,
whatever they may be. But you're certainly can have Attorney
General BONDI. So this is what we know, and you
know we're going to protect the innocent and he's a
heinous individual.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
Yes, So what do you do? What should the process
be here? And it doesn't that the administration has been
great on a whole lot of stuff, right, but this
one they have mishandled. So how do you straighten that
out at this point? Because a few things are obviously true.
One is that the public needs to know, they have

(11:54):
a right to know about all bad actors associated with
Jeffrey Epstein and innocent people who may have had contact
with them, but there's no evidence whatsoever that they were supporting, advancing, promoting,
engaged in any kind of crime. Well, those people need

(12:14):
to be protected. That's the American way, innocent until proven guilty.
But this approach of just saying, hey, this is old news,
we're not talking about it anymore.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
To me, that's not acceptable.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
And I don't know whether or not the American people
are going to accept it, because I haven't seen maybe
you have, Ryan, Again, I've been tied up in legal stuff,
but I haven't seen any good polling on whether the
American people in general are concerned about this, it's hurting
the president, etc. So I don't know whether it's going
to become a political problem for the administration. I'm just
talking about right and wrong, and right is what I

(12:49):
just said.

Speaker 4 (12:50):
Well, I would venture and I could be going on
a limb here, but I don't know that I am
based on the reactions we've seen from so many on
the right side of the political spectrum, and you have
to believe that those on the left are going to
be opportunistic and wanting to attack the president this issue,
that this might be the one issue the Trump administration
has stumbled upon. We're on the wrong side of an
eighty twenty issue, or I think upwards of eighty percent

(13:12):
of Americans want the truth released, exposed, revealed, whatever you
want to say about it about Jeffrey Epstein.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
And who his clients were.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
Yeah, it's very important to America that that happened on
so many different levels, and one of those is just
confidence in the system, right, just so important?

Speaker 2 (13:32):
But what process?

Speaker 1 (13:33):
Because right now it would have to be a politically
created process. There's no legal process for that. So how
do you carve that out politically? What would you like
to see let's start with this three oh three seven
three eight two five five text dam five seven seven
three nine. What would you like to see President Trump
do now with this? How should he go about handling this?

(13:55):
I have some ideas on it, but yeah, it's not
acceptable to just say no this this thing is going
to go away now. In terms of Democrats, Ryan, I
haven't seen any major Democrats getting on Trump on this.
Is that because they suspect that a number of major
Democrats were partaking of the criminal activity.

Speaker 4 (14:17):
It's a valid question right there too, Bill Clinton chief
among them.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
Yeah yeah, So.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
Have any prominent Democrats while I was in court, any
prominent Democrats out there bashing Trump on Epstein?

Speaker 3 (14:30):
I haven't seen that. Maybe our listeners have.

Speaker 4 (14:32):
I have seen elements of the left, let's say, people
that are have a presence on X oh yeah, yeah,
you know, kind of taking those political but like I said,
they're opportunistic shots. It's an area of weakness for Trump.
So of course, they're going to try to exploit it.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
Yeah, that's why I'm surprised, because obviously the left has
been shameless when it comes to falsely accusing President Trump
over the years, right, I mean, falsely accused of treason,
et cetera.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
They've been shameless.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
So the fact that they've been and either totally quiet
or relatively quiet on the Epstein thing tells me they
want no part of that issue again, probably because they
suspect major Democrats were committing crimes involving Epstein three or three,
someone three to eight, two five, five texts, dam five, seventh,
seventh or nineth one of the great texts of the year.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
These are the kind of textures we need. Dan I
joined later. Are you the guest host for Steven Heidi today? Beautifully?

Speaker 2 (15:26):
Don got it? Yeah? Is that coming from management? Might be? Yeah, Yeah,
couldn't blame him.

Speaker 4 (15:31):
It's kind of like remember the later years of Johnny Carson,
Like in the early nineties before he went off the air,
and Bette Midler was his final guest and Jay Leno
would fill in like four days of the week, and
Johnny would just kind of show up for one of
the shows.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
Why do you think Bette Midler was the final guest.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
I don't know she's saying to him, though, I remember that.

Speaker 4 (15:48):
Yeah, yeah, okay, but all right, what about your run
of trials?

Speaker 3 (15:53):
Here? Dan, are you done yet? Are you through the gauntlet?

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (15:55):
Man got a month on trial start September second, But
I won't have any more now between now and then,
So except for an occasional day here and there, God willing, right,
Chris Berman, we're all day to day. Yeah, I would
expect to be on air every day now until that
next trial starts September second. Very good, but that'll be
a month. Yeah, that'll be a month.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
So yeah, we better get these all stars lined up now.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
Katie bar the door.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
Yes, yes, Where does that expression come from?

Speaker 3 (16:24):
I think it's Canadian? I don't know.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
You know, it's one of those things that intrigues me
and nobody else. Every time we get a singe like that,
I'm always wondering what is the origin of that? Sometimes
it's obvious, and what appears obvious is wrong. So Epstein,
how do we go about doing this right? There's no
way through the legal system right now to be able
to get this balance struck where we need the truth

(16:46):
who else was involved in these heinous, demonic, illegal activities
while protecting the innocent. And if you disagree with the premise,
if you think that, hey, it doesn't matter if somebody
dealt with Epstein, it doesn't matter if it was on
something related this, this, that that all of it has
to be exposed and let them defend themselves. I'm not
from that school, you know. I'm from the school of

(17:08):
fundamental fairness, the golden rule. Treat the other guy or
gale the way you want to be treated. And so
the people who did wrong in connection with Epstein, they've
got to be out it. It's not acceptable that that
just be buried at this point, no matter where it leads. Well,
but the innocent people they need to be protected because
you know how it is when when it comes to
a false allegation or implication of any sexual impropriety, you know,

(17:32):
you get the death penalty before you get the hearing,
and you get the execution before you.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
Get the trial.

Speaker 4 (17:36):
And what do you make of Alan Dershowitz, one time
attorney for Jeffrey Epstein.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
We have that sound too, where he's like, no, release
it all.

Speaker 4 (17:43):
I was unfairly implicated, and I know it'll be exculpatory
for me.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Yes. Yes. The amazing thing is I actually plan to
play that at least one of them is somebody who
was accused.

Speaker 9 (17:55):
Others are accusers, and the judges have said if somebody
calls themselves act a victim, we're not going to give
any information about them.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
But they may not be victims, they may be perpetrators.
So we don't have information about false accusers.

Speaker 9 (18:10):
And we know there have been many false accusers who
have accused innocent people from money, and those records are
being deliberately, wilfully suppressed and they shouldn't be suppressed. If
the accusation is allowed out, so should the material that
diminishes the credibility of the accuser.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yeah, so I've got an idea. I want to kick
it around with you when I come back.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
We've got a lot of ground to cover, including a
very sad, unfortunate that I told you so. Remember when
we all talked about polish in the left pushing this
under this green you know, ideology, pushing this insane you
know lane filtering in Colorado.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
We'll get to that too on the Dan Kaplas Show.

Speaker 7 (18:53):
You're listening to the Dan Kapliss Show podcast.

Speaker 10 (18:57):
The Door, I'd say we're forty years of broken dreams.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
You're on your way.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
I appreciate that, Katie about the door thing, but that's
very suspect.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
Music really suspect.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
Doesn't it. I mean, does that just age everybody twenty years?
Is it not real? No?

Speaker 1 (19:14):
But you know what I mean, it just isn't good. No,
that's not on you. You're just looking for Katie Barbee.
Not only that, Kelly has an answer for us.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
Not where it came from, beautiful, I do so.

Speaker 11 (19:27):
It says it's likely originates from a traditional Scottish ballad
and a legend about Catherine Douglas, a lady and waiting
to the Scottish Queen. The legend tells of Catherine Douglas
famously barricading a door with her arm to protect King
James the first from assassins. According to The New York Times, must.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
Have been weak assassins.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
Yeah, what are you saying about, Katie?

Speaker 2 (19:52):
If if one person's arm and then I'm glad it worked.
I assume it worked. I hope it worked.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
Yeah, all right, Speaking of w which is there going
to be any formal commemoration of the miracle.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
At Butler.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
Oh, what do you mean, like the coming up on
that No, no, no, but we're coming up on the anniversary.
I don't think it should be ignored. No, I mean,
I think everybody can agree. It's one of the most
important events in American political history when you stop and
think about, truly the miraculous way that Trump's life was saved,

(20:31):
his immediate heroic response, which revealed character in a way
that really nothing else can a heroic response that that
day sealed his second term, which has enormous positive consequences
for America in the world, And that what would have
happened to this country if God forbid the assassin, whether

(20:56):
sent by Iran or a lone wolf or whatever, if
that assassin had succeeded. Now, let me throw that out
there for you three or three someone three eight two
five five texts d A N five seven seven three nine.
As you know, I personally believe that there was divine
intervention in that Butler field. I can't prove it, can't
be certain of it. That's just my belief. I, you know,

(21:16):
hope to someday. No, but one way or the other,
what do you think America looks like today, if God forbid,
that assassin had succeeded, which the assassin was within a
millisecond of doing one slight had turned away. Now, what
would the world look like today? What would America look

(21:37):
like today? What would American politics look like today? What
would have happened from that day forward? Short term back
in July and August of twenty four, three or three
someone three eight two five five texts d an five
seven seven, three nine, And thank god America didn't have
to live through that horror and the President was spared.

(22:00):
All right, Epstein's stuff, here's my take on it. If
you weren't with us earlier, there's no legal remedy, right,
There's not going to be any court process that just
gets the full truth out there. So it's going to
have to be done through the administration. And you've got
to protect the innocent right.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
It would just be.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
Fundamentally wrong, morally wrong to just ruin a bunch of
people because they had some innocent, non criminal contacts with Epstein.
But it cannot be acceptable to just let it go.
The guy was obviously a monster, there were obviously others involved,
and the world needs to know and above all, Americans

(22:41):
need to know that there's not going to be a
cover up. Huge problem with the Democrats, right, and a
big reason they lost to us. People don't want to
be an in a republic. They don't want two different justice systems.
They want the same one for everybody, equal treatment under
the law.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
So here's here's what.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
I suggest, and then I want to get your taken
on what some of the names should be. If you
agree with my approach, is there needs to be at
this point the administration has control of those files, still
less tact within the law, but it has control of
the files. There should be there should be a group
put together, doesn't have to be a big group, the

(23:19):
smaller the better.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
There should be a group put together.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
Of highly respected, highly respected former law enforcement officials. And
I have no problem at all with that group being
all GOP because we just know the left at this point.
They just have no regard for the law and fairness
or anything like that, and they would try to hyper
politicize and distort and lie about the process. So I

(23:46):
have no problem with all of these people being Republicans,
but they have to be people with a law enforcement background,
no politicians, and they have to be respected and trustworthy
to then review all of the files and determined what
can be released under the law and what should be released,
balancing that fairness scale of not destroying the innocent. And

(24:11):
then there needs to be a short fuse, my friend,
there needs to be a short leash, a very tight
time frame for a report to be issued, because you
know what I mean. You do complex things in your job.
Everybody does. I do complex things in my legal work.
If you put your mind to it, an awful lot
can be done in a hurry, and America deserves answers soon.

(24:31):
So that's what I think the approach should be. If
you agree, then I'd love to get I'd love to
get your take on who those people should be. And
I'm envisioning two or three. Once it gets too big,
it gets too long, it gets too unwieldy, just coordinating schedules,
it's unworkable.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
But who do you think those folks should be?

Speaker 1 (24:49):
If you've got a better idea, let me know if
you think God should just be allowed to drop, But
love tod that conversation because I would strongly disagree. Let's
go to beautiful Colorado Springs. I was down there, well, first,
I was down there for uh Court this week and
then I went back today to visit clients and it
is a beautiful place.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
Kevin. You're on the Dame Caplas. You're welcome. How you doing, Dan,
I'm living the dream? How about you?

Speaker 12 (25:14):
Just another damn parent. So in reference to your question
about what would happen if you know the assassin you
know got you know, would have killed Donald Trump, I
truly believe that that would have been the end of
the Democratic Party. I think there would have been some minor,

(25:34):
a little some skirmishes across the cities and stuff like that,
and but yeah, it would have been the total annihilation
of the Democratic Party. Well, I mean he wasn't I mean,
he wasn't a Trump. He he was anti Trump either.
Guess what. Guess what party is the Democrats? And you know,

(25:59):
the Democrats probably would have probably had a PRS like,
oh no, we had nothing to do with it. But
you know, the America's not dumb. They they they're not stupid.
They could see clearly what's going on.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
Yeah, Kevin, but Americans are fair and you know, for example,
Americans didn't conclude and I very much respected the GOP
for not going there. You know that this monster, you know,
who killed those people up in Minnesota. Even though the
monster cited Tim Wallas as his inspiration, the Republicans didn't
go there because the guy was obviously a nut.

Speaker 12 (26:30):
I don't think first, yeah, and I don't think you know,
and yeah, you're you're you're correct the Republicans, you know,
but it would have been it would have been a
slow diminish of the Republican Party, I'm sorry, the Democratic Party.
And I mean it would have it would have happened
over time, you know, I mean slowly, you know, you

(26:51):
with these cities probably switching, you know, and stuff like that.
That's just again, that's just one man's opinion.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
Yeah, no, I appreciate it, Kevin, And thank you for
the call. Man.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
I appreciate it. That's exactly what I'm asking for us.
I just want to get people's take on this.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
You know.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
I think if God forbid that it happened, I think
it just causes such immediate deep rupture in America, such anger,
such fury, and I think, you know, if my belief
proves to be correct that it was divine intervention, I
think one of the reasons for that divine intervention would

(27:26):
be to spare this country, which.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
Is the hope of the world.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
To spare this country that kind of toxic bitter, deep
deep deep anger and division that would have come. I mean,
you could see it that day, right, You could see
it on the ground in Butler, where there was immediately
this anger. And you know, there is such a thing
as righteous anger. And sometimes the lack of anger speaks

(27:53):
poorly of somebody. Sometimes the lack of anger speaks well
of somebody. If somebody doesn't have right anger when they should,
there's something wrong with their conscience.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
They don't care enough.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
And you saw that righteous anger on the scene immediately
in Butler, and imagine how that would have gripped the nation.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
And so I do.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
Think it's and I think again divine intervention, But that
this nation was spared that the political fallout, I think, yeah, boy,
it is scary to think about what that would have
been listening as I'd said before, that right for a
long time, Kamala Harris was never going to get elected president.
That just wasn't going to happen. I understand that came

(28:34):
after Butler, but she wasn't going to get elected president.
Would it have changed what the Democrats did? Thank God,
we don't have to know, right, all we know is
and Ryan.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
I think it.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
Strongly supports I know we have to pop this break.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
I think it strongly supports, you know, my divine intervention
theory that so many good things have happened for America
and the world because President Trump survived against all odds.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
You're on the Dan Capitlas Show.

Speaker 7 (29:03):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.

Speaker 13 (29:06):
So DJ to me should step up to the plate
and just go to the court. Step one, go to
the court, petition the court to unseal all the evidence
and then let people make their mind up, let people
weigh and measure what's there, make their mind. The only
way you can do is release. So it's not going
to go away. I don't think this thing's gonna wait.
And I've told folks this is not going to go away.
You've got to release everything. Just release it all.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Well, whether it's going to go away or not, it shouldn't.
It shouldn't.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
I think it's very important to American confidence in the
justice system that everybody who was involved in criminal activities
with Epstein be identified. And that's the challenge, right, I mean,
Steve Bannon's approach of just put every record out there
and let America decide personally, I think would be fundamentally

(29:57):
unfair to people who had innocent contacts with Epstein. And
in America, we pride ourselves on innocent until proven guilty
and on protecting the innocent, and I think we need
to be true to our values and practice the Golden
rule and come up with the process where there can

(30:17):
be a review done. What I suggested earlier was that
you come up with two or three, no more than that,
highly respected former law enforcement folks. I'm fine with them
all being Republican because Democrats would you know, the active
ones would lie and politicize it, and just go through
everything and strike a balance, strike a balance. And it's

(30:40):
not that when you release a name, it's an indictment
and you're saying we have convicted that person, etc. But
you just have to strike a balance where it would
be fair or unfair to release a name. What about
everybody who went to the island with Epstein? Seems to
me that's fair. And then if somebody went to the
island with Epstein said they didn't know any of that

(31:01):
stuff was going on, then they can make their case
to the public. You know, if you've got somebody else
who just had a business meeting with Epstein, do you
ruin their life over that? Yeh see, I'd love your
taking all that. I just think it cannot be allowed
to just go away. But there has to be a
fair process. Three all three someone three eight two five
five takes d an five seven seven three nine. Hey,

(31:23):
a lot coming up in the five o'clock hour as well.
I do want to get to this. And it's as
sad I told you so. But we could all see
it coming, right, We talked about it at the time
where you've got and it's just this hallmark of this
this radical Democratic party now where they just don't have respect,
They really don't for the inherent dignity of each human life.
And it takes a whole lot of forms, starting with

(31:45):
mass killing before birth, but but you know, the unnecessary
killing of a lot of people after birth, and that
includes this changing our laws when it comes to oh yeah,
if you're on a bicycle under these circumstances, you can
run a stuff. So what what are they thinking? Motorcycles?
Oh yeah, no, in the interest of green ideology, motorcycles. Yeah,

(32:06):
you can lane filter, which means when other traffic stopped,
you know, you can go down the center line well
other lanes, but but oh no, if traffic's moving, you
can't do it. When anybody with a brain knew once
you pass that law, you were going to get full
lane splitting where motorcycles were going to be going right
down the lane between traffic, you know, splitting that lane

(32:28):
between traffic, you know, when traffic was moving, and traffic
was moving full speed. Ryan, I don't even need to
get into the examples, right, everybody listening hasn't. But just
this morning, driving back from meeting in the Springs, I
had it happened twice. And one of those times I
was in the express lane and coming back up here
from Colorado Springs and the bike was splitting the lane

(32:51):
between me and the left hand lane of normal traffic.
And he must have been going one hundred and ten
at least at least And everybody listening can tell a
bunch of similar stories from probably the last week or two.
So here's the nine news package on the Here.

Speaker 14 (33:10):
This morning, troopers are targeting reckless motorcyclists on our roadways.
Colorid State Patrol says that eleven fatal crashes involving motorcyclists
in June prodded them to conduct the special operation and
as a.

Speaker 5 (33:20):
Porter, Corny un is joining us live right now from
C four seventy near Morrison and Corny.

Speaker 8 (33:25):
Over the weekend, officer stop dozens of people, one of
which was caught on camera going more than one hundred
miles per hour.

Speaker 10 (33:31):
Yes, that's right, Corey and Jordan. Colorado State Patrol troopers
and Jefferson County sheriff officers. Our deputies work together this
weekend to stop forty five vehicles over this holiday weekend.
Twenty five of them where motorcycles, and one of those
motorcyclists was going one hundred and twenty miles per hour
here along C.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
Four seventy.

Speaker 10 (33:51):
Take a look. This is that motorcyclist that we're talking about.
An aerial view of this chase. According to CSP, because
of significant risk of the public safety, troopers on the
ground did not go after the rider. Instead, they used
the aircraft to track the motorcyclist, who was also seen
using the right shoulder to pass cars and was also
spotted weaving through multiple lanes of traffic. Eventually, officers caught

(34:14):
up to the rider. Once he parked at a business
in Golden troopers arrested that motorcyclist for felony eluding the.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
Aircraft provides us the ability to kind of sit.

Speaker 1 (34:23):
Yeah, and this story goes on from there. But similar
to the story we played last week, et cetera, we
all know that since the Left put this lane filtering
law into effect, that we have much much more lanes
splitting going on and motorcyclists driving at full speed and
moving traffic between lanes of cars, trucks, et cetera.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
So what do you think should happen here? Personally?

Speaker 1 (34:48):
I think that not only does that lane filtering law
need to be reversed, I think some very tough laws
have to be passed absolutely prohibiting this and cracking down
on it.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
Now.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
Listen, I used to ride before a bad wreck, and
we've had plenty of people who have made the point
about the safety value of true lane filtering. But I
think we can do that while getting rid of this madness.
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