January 7, 2026 • 35 mins
Kelsey Reinhardt, President and CEO of CatholicVote joins Dan to discuss President Trump's recent comments on the Hyde Amendment, potentially opening the door to further federal funding for abortions nationwide.
Kelsey was appointed to the role of President and CEO of CatholicVote in 2025. She joined the organization asHead of Media and Evangelization in 2024, bringing with her a rich background integrating deeptheological insight, global advocacy, and mission-driven media leadership.
Born and raised in Gillette, Wyoming, Kelsey attended the University of Notre Dame on a fullbasketball scholarship and graduated in just three years.After that, she set off on a rich and varied career path that began with the role of LegislativeAssistant for the Office of Government Liaison for the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops,where she worked on immigration and refugee-related issues. Her journey then led her to parishand educational ministry and a rewarding opportunity to serve as a missionary in Nigeria.
Sensing a call to consecrated life, Kelsey spent nearly a decade with the Dominican Sisters ofSt. Cecilia, deepening her faith and eventually discerning a different vocation before professingfinal vows.
After religious life, Kelsey held senior roles at EWTN News, where she helped launch the firstArabic-language Catholic news agency in Iraq for persecuted Christians and simultaneously ledfive international news agencies in six languages. She also served as Interim Executive Directorof Catholic News Agency.
Kelsey holds a B.A. in Theology from Notre Dame and an M.A. in Theology from AugustineInstitute–both magna cum laude. She and her husband, Matt, married in 2023.
https://catholicvote.org/author/kelseyreinhardt
Michael Allen, 4th District Attorney, joins Dan to discuss his campaign launch for Colorado Attorney General, set to presumably take on current Democrat Secretary of State Jena Griswold.
4th District Attorney Michael Allen files candidacy for state AG - Colorado Springs Gazette
Kelsey was appointed to the role of President and CEO of CatholicVote in 2025. She joined the organization asHead of Media and Evangelization in 2024, bringing with her a rich background integrating deeptheological insight, global advocacy, and mission-driven media leadership.
Born and raised in Gillette, Wyoming, Kelsey attended the University of Notre Dame on a fullbasketball scholarship and graduated in just three years.After that, she set off on a rich and varied career path that began with the role of LegislativeAssistant for the Office of Government Liaison for the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops,where she worked on immigration and refugee-related issues. Her journey then led her to parishand educational ministry and a rewarding opportunity to serve as a missionary in Nigeria.
Sensing a call to consecrated life, Kelsey spent nearly a decade with the Dominican Sisters ofSt. Cecilia, deepening her faith and eventually discerning a different vocation before professingfinal vows.
After religious life, Kelsey held senior roles at EWTN News, where she helped launch the firstArabic-language Catholic news agency in Iraq for persecuted Christians and simultaneously ledfive international news agencies in six languages. She also served as Interim Executive Directorof Catholic News Agency.
Kelsey holds a B.A. in Theology from Notre Dame and an M.A. in Theology from AugustineInstitute–both magna cum laude. She and her husband, Matt, married in 2023.
https://catholicvote.org/author/kelseyreinhardt
Michael Allen, 4th District Attorney, joins Dan to discuss his campaign launch for Colorado Attorney General, set to presumably take on current Democrat Secretary of State Jena Griswold.
4th District Attorney Michael Allen files candidacy for state AG - Colorado Springs Gazette
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
Yeah, this death in Minnesota, this is what the left
has wanted. This is what the left has been encouraging.
This has been.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Enticed by the left. Think about it.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Think about it here in Colorado, Mayor Mike Johnston coming
out and talking about tens of thousands of Denver rights
taking to the street to stop Ice and Johnston talking
about using Denver police, sending him out to the county
line to combat federal law enforcement just trying to enforce
federal immigration law. So we've seen it in Colorado. We've
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seen this extraordinarily dangerous, hateful language, you know, from so
many on the left toward federal law enforcement, including Ice.
And so that's what leads to what you get in
Minnesota today, which is a lady ironically from Colorado at
one point to Rene Good, thirty seven years old according
to published reports, and her mother is now confirmed it
(01:08):
that she lost her life, but from the.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Video publicly available.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Of course, you and I don't have access to the
internal law enforcement investigations or maybe other angles, but from
everything publicly available, it appears to be a woman who
defied lawful orders of ICE, driving away from ICE after
ICE contacted her at her vehicle, and then driving straight
toward an ICE agent who then appears to have been hit.
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President Trump says he was hit and is in the hospital.
Appears to have been hit, and then he opened fire
in self defense. So you know that the very sad
situation in Minnesota. It's it's sad because it's so unnecessary.
But the Left doesn't have regard for human life. The left,
anybody think the left has any real regard for her life,
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certainly doesn't have any regard for the life of law enforcement,
doesn't have any regard for the life of the victims
of those here illegally who've then committed rape, murder, etc.
And of course that's a small percentage of the folks
here I legally, but it's still a whole bunch of
rape and murder victims who never should have been rape
and murder victims. Do you think the Left has any
(02:19):
concern for those victims?
Speaker 3 (02:20):
No? No, So this is what the left encourages.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Whether it's here in Colorado, it's in Minnesota, it's across
the country. It's part of this whole effort I've talked
with you about before, and this No Kings, this big
nationwide No Kings protest, was, as I pointed out at
the time, just part of a dry run to get
out mass numbers of people for when they really have
to and their whole plan on the left, and that
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includes here in Colorado, is to be able to be
the new rebels, the new Confederates, to defy federal law
when they don't want to follow federal law. And that
has been their play around the country. And they're just
absolutely outraged that the Feds Trump would dare to actually
enforce federal law. So it's a very serious, bigger issue
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in this nation. I feel horribly for this woman's family
because they've lost a daughter. That's the fault to the left,
it's not the fault of law enforcement. I feel horribly
for the Ice agent who had to fire those shots
to protect himself, And for anybody who suggests at this
point now play some sound for you where you'll hear this.
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I believe, my personal opinion very corrupt and morally bankrupt.
Tim Wallas, governor of Minnesota, where you hear him suggesting
this was a bad shoot, I'm paraphrasing, and Walls under
the guise of calling for Colm I believe, actually trying
to stir up more trouble.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
And there are some.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Riotous type behavior going on right now in Minnesota that
we'll continue to follow. But what we have in the
end here is open and shut. I mean there's not
even from the publicly available video, there's not even a
question about whether this was a legal shoot. It is
so clearly from what we can see right now, a
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legal shoot.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
So prayers for everybody involved.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
The left has pedaled violence for as long as I
can remember, right, I mean, I was a target of
it at CEU, you know when the left tried to
stir up violence against me and then eventually did. And
it's just it's what they do because they can't win
the argument on the facts and reason and common morality,
(04:36):
so they have to use violence as a tool in
many different forms.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
But do you see what we have happening right now?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Three oh three seven, one, three eight two five five
the number techs d an five seven seven three and
I'd love to get your thoughts on this. We'll be
talking about it throughout the show because we expect there
to be developments throughout the show. Is Minnesota hopefully does
not go down down the road toward more mass violence.
But they've got this really vile, venomous, hateful mayor up
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there who just stokes the flames and is stoking the
flames right now. Will play some sound from him reportedly
telling the police to back off as large demonstrations gather.
And we've seen this act before in Minnesota. Write following
the death of George Floyd, and you talk about the
contrast here because you go back to what I view
(05:30):
as the killing of George Floyd, and I understand the
case made by those in defense of the officer, and
I respect that. My opinion from everything I've seen is
that that officer committed a crime and George Floyd.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Lost his life as a result.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
But a black and white difference from everything we can
see right now between the death of George Floyd and
the death of this woman from Colorado, Rene Good today,
because it appears to me the law enforcement officer, the
ice agent had no choice and had to act in
self defense and even if he did have a choice,
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it's still it appears to me a one hundred percent
legal shoot. So we'll talk about that throughout the show.
Is things developed, heads up that we're gonna have Kelsey
Reinhart with us. She's the president and CEO of Catholic
Vote and that organization is a big deal. Excuse me,
and Kelsey will be with us at four twenty to
talk about a major development since yesterday when President Trump
(06:29):
told Congressional Republicans that have to be quote flexible on
the High Amendment, and that isn't going to happen. I
mean that the High Amendment is non negotiable, the High Amendment,
which prevents federal funding of abortion except under very very
very limited circumstances. So Kelsey Rehinehart will be here to
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talk about that and what the President's referring to and
where that is likely to end up.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
But one quick spoiler.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Alert, unless you want the Republicans to lose fifty sixty
seventy seats in the midterms, it don't mess with the
High Amendment because I'll tell you right now, if this
Republican administration was to alter the High Amendment so that
we had federal funding of abortion beyond what we have today.
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Republicans can get wiped out in the midterms that there
are so many people who are mainly sometimes only voting
for Republicans because they are pro life, and an absolute
core of the pro life position is nobody, nobody should
have to fund the killing of innocent human life out
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of their pocket involuntarily. It shouldn't be allowed voluntarily, but
involuntarily forcing Americans to pay out of their pocket.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
For the killing of innicent human life.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
No, the Republicans would get wiped out in They're going
to lose in the midterms anyway. But there's a big
difference between you know, all of a sudden being in
a five six seven seat minority to all of a
sudden being in a thirty or forty seat minority. Three
or three seOne three eight, two, five five takes da
N five seven seven.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Three nine.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I want to introduce you to guy, if you haven't
met him already or heard him talk. A guy named
Michael Allen, really good DA out of El Paso County.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
He'll be with us at four thirty six.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Michael Allen is going to be taking on presumably Jenna
Griswold in the Attorney General's race, and I'm grateful to
Michael for joining us because he has a real chance
to win. He has a real chance to win. First,
he's a very good candidate. But we've seen a lot
of really good GOP candidates lose in the current state
of Colorado. But Michael Allen's a really good candidate. And
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Jenna Griswold is whack. I mean, any honest person is
going to admit.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
She's just whack.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
And well, Coloradin's really want her as their chief law
enforcement officer, I don't think so. So that's a real
chance for the GOP to win a statewide race. I
want you to meet Michael at four thirty six and
then think about supporting his campaign.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Vince Bizdick, the.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Editor of the Denver Gazette, will be with us at
five oh six because that had this tremendous editorial on
something we've talked about before. But they they're so thorough
at the Gazette. They did such a great job of
documenting it, this homeless industrial complex as they label it
in Denver. Now you have a lot of well intentioned
people doing a lot of good work to help homeless people.
(09:34):
But then you have the political enterprise that complex and
the gazette documents. How you know the Democrats are feeding
money to different interest group cronies, etc. Under the guise
of this fight against homelessness. All of that coming up
here on the Dan Capla Show.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
Let the money go in a healthcare account or however
you do it. Let the money go directly to the people. Now,
you have to be a little flexible on hide. You
know that you gotta be a little flexible. You gotta
work something, you gotta use ingenuity, you gotta work. We're
(10:19):
all big fans of everything, but you gotta be flexy.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
You have to have flexibility n some things you don't
have to be flexible on some things you should not
be flexible, and in the amendment is one of those. Hey,
nobody better to talk to about this than Kelsey Reinhardt.
She is the president and CEO of Catholic Vote. Catholic
Vote is a very very big deal on the national scene,
including the national political scene, and Kelsey has one of
(10:44):
the most interesting stories you'll ever hear. We don't have
time today to get into the whole thing, but former
guard for the Notre Dame women's basketball team where she
got her theology degree. And then, as I understand it, Kelsey,
you were a member of the Dominican Sisters of Saint
Cecilia and then went on to positions with the Catholic bishops,
(11:04):
et cetera. Like, does that mean you were a full
scale none like the kind of nunness who set me
straight in grade school?
Speaker 6 (11:13):
Indeed, yes, the one who smile, who pray rosaries and
set children streat in grade school.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Oh, I thank god, Wow, what a story. You write
a book and I will buy it. I mean, I
tell everybody who listened, Sister and Felice, thank God for her.
She was a God send in my life, though I
did not think it at the time as she was
beating me with that plastic ketchup bottle.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
But I need that. I needed that. So hey, thanks
for being here.
Speaker 6 (11:42):
Thank you, thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Yeah, and so please, if you would, Kelsey, tell for
those who don't know, folks, what the High Amendment is
and what the position of Catholic vote is on whether.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
There should be any flexibility with that.
Speaker 6 (11:58):
Sure, the High Amendment, it was developed in nineteen seventy
six in order to prevent millions of Americans and taxpayers
from subsidizing a practice abortion that they believe to be
morally wrong. And it has prevented the government from becoming
a main provider of abortions and money going towards that.
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It's really helped us keep the guardrails on our spending
so that it reflects a basic moral consensus. And that's
exactly why we, a Catholice, felt like it was just
impossible for us to be flexible on the High Amendment.
It's simply the fact that Americans should not be compelled
to fund abortions with their tax dollars. There's no opt
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out provision for that except for the High Amendment, which
is why it's enjoyed bipartisan support for five decades.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Right, And I haven't seen the latest polling on it,
And at a certain point the polling wouldn't even matter,
because right is right and wrong is wrong. But I
think gets always enjoyed strong support across party lines.
Speaker 6 (13:04):
Yes, and that's one of the remarkable things about this.
Henry Hyde, who was the Institution in the Senate, really
cobbled together this consensus bipartisan and since it's been enacted,
two point six million lives have been saved, according to
the Charlotte Lazier Institute. So it really is effective. And
there were some loopholes of the Biden Agency, the Biden
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administration instituted to kind of work around it, but it
has enjoyed bipartisan support since the beginning.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
And that's one of my big concerns.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
If it was a Republican administration which now loosened the
High Amendment, you know that the horrible precedent that would
say and I have to believe that you take one
brick out of that wall, the whole wall would soon crumble.
So what is Catholic vote going to do? What can
other people do at this point too? And I'm just
speaking for myself, but I think Trump has been historically
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great for the pro life movement, historically great for America
in the world.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
But this is a really big deal.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
So what can people do to try to stop the
President and the GOP from refining the High Amendment?
Speaker 5 (14:17):
Right?
Speaker 6 (14:18):
Well, I, you know, Dan, I almost think that what
we have done in the last twenty four hours by
making known to our representatives our views on this has
already in fact changed the position of the White House.
The Press secretary today, Caroline Levitt, said the president did
not change the administration's policy, and you know, she added
(14:41):
that Trump's comments were about flexibility were directed to both
Republicans and Democrats, kind of trying to spend it in
such a way as to say, oh, it should be
the Democrats who compromise on this way by passing the
High Amendment. So that's quite a statement coming twenty four
hours later. And then Speaker Mike Johnson just said, you know,
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flat out, we are not going to change the standard
that we've been using for taxpayer funding for abortion. I'm
just not going to allow that to happen. So I
think a consistent campaign of pressure, making known to your
public officials how you feel about this, voicing on social media,
you know, all of the all of the channels that
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you can use to say that this is not about inflexibility,
it's about the trust of the pro life voters, and
it's about moral consistency. And I think those will be
really effective with this administration.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Looks like it has been already.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Kelsey Reinhard, our guest president and CEO of Catholic Vote,
how can people support Catholic voter learn more about it
if they're thinking of supporting it.
Speaker 6 (15:51):
Yeah, Catholic vote dot org. Visit our website. We do
great work putting out policy and h and new story
so that people can say, you know, you can be
an informed citizen in four minutes or less by signing
up to our daily email newsletter that gives you all
the news that you need to read in one sitting.
(16:12):
So tastvote dot org. You can support us and sign
up for our newsletter, The Loop.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
And I've got to tell you The Loop is awesome.
I read it every day. I use the help with showprep.
But thirty second story if you don't mind, Kelsey, because
one of my most powerful memories as a kid, and
as we sit here today is my mom, you know,
mother of five South Side of Chicago. Yeah, I consider
her a founder of the pro life movement, though you
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wouldn't find her listed in any you know stories or
anything like that. But vivid memory of just after row passing,
trying to get a grassroots group together basement of Holy
Cross Hospital on the South Side of Chicago, and picturing
my mom and Henry Hyde the only two who showed up.
My mom and Henry Hyde just huddle together in the
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basement of the hospital, talking about, Hey, what do we do?
Speaker 3 (17:04):
What do we do to.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Try to fight this and protect kids? And to me
that you know, if Norman Rockwell was there, he would
have painted that, because I'm sure that was happening all
over America, just people getting together in twos and threes
and tens trying to figure out how to fight back.
And they eventually won, right, they eventually got row overturns.
So just a vivid image for me. But I appreciate
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everything you and Catholic Vote are doing and appreciate your
time today.
Speaker 6 (17:32):
Thank you so much. We will not give up the
fight for life until every baby in the room is
protected and afforded those same human rights that each of
us deserve. So well. Appreciate the chance to talk with
you today.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Dan, It's the civil rights issue of our lifetime. So
thank you for taking the lead. And catch you next time.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Okay, thank you.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
That is Kelsey Reinhert doing a great job as president
and CEO of Catholic Votes. So good to hear that
the administration and is listening and understanding, maybe more so
than it did before the magnitude of the importance of
the High Amendment on multiple levels, a bottom line being
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that it has literally saved millions of lives. And so
I expect that we are not going to see any
flexibility when it comes to the High Amendment.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
And that is a good thing.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Hey, when we come back, this is exciting a Republican
with a real chance to win statewide office and the
Attorney general's office on top of that, he's the DA
in Opaso County right now. His expected opponent is Jenna
griswol He's going to be an excellent candidate. She is
clearly whack. No disrespect intended, she is whack. So Michael
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Ellen next on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
That's perfect ryme.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Why do you have the feeling we're going to be
hearing that walk up after Michael Allen is elected Attorney
General from the state of Colorado. That would be a
beautiful thing. Michael, welcome back to the Dan Kapli Show.
Speaker 7 (19:23):
Thank you for having me. Dan, I really appreciate the
opportunity to chat with you today.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Well, you know, this is a big deal.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
I mean, we sit here right now with a lot
of people thinking a Republican cannot win statewide in Colorado,
and yet we look at this attorney general's race and
we've got you, who I think would be a very
very strong candidate, and we'll get into that. And then
we have Jenna Griswold. And this isn't meant as a
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pejorative or playground or anything like that, but she's just
flat whack. And I think the people of Colorado get that.
I mean, you could look at some other Democrats out
there and say, hey, I disagree with them ideologically and
this and that, but you know, they're really competent legal
professionals who would be competent attorney generals. I don't know
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a handful of people in Colorado who would look at
Jenna Griswold and say.
Speaker 7 (20:16):
That, Yeah, I don't disagree with what you're saying there.
You know, the other side of the coin, though, with this,
is that she's ready to boatload of money already prior
to me getting the race. So we're still going to
have our work cut out for us. It's not going
to be a walk in the park. And I know
you're not saying that. You know, we have at one
a state wide Republican hasn't won statewide and what over
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a decade now, So we're going to have to work
really hard to get this across the line and make
that message stick.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Yeah, and I get the concern about the money, Michael
Allen our gas the I'll pass the DA. I get
the concern about the money. But when's the last time
you drank new coke? And how much did they spend
marketing new coke? But yeah, no, but he wanted to
it because it was bad. But I understand easy for
me to laugh off. I'm not the candidate. You're the
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guy out there putting your neck on the line and
doing all the hard work. But I just think that
when it comes to the Attorney General's office, when it
comes to law and law enforcement things like that, I
think Coloraden's are going to think about that race.
Speaker 7 (21:21):
I sure hope you're right. I mean, what we've seen
over the last decade is statewide government has been dominated
by Democrats, and when you have that imbalance of power,
you start to get some laws that have been pretty wacky,
you know, decriminalizing dangerous drugs like fentanyl, making it hard
to go after motor vehicle theft offenders that kind of thing.
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And those things have both a human impact, so they're
obviously impacting the people that are affected by the crimes themselves,
but there's a huge economic impact too that we can't discount.
And you know, the common sensus and to put out
a report not too long back, maybe in the last
month or so, talking about the impact of crime on
our economic well being in Colorado, so you know, we've
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got to address that. And to get somebody into the
Attorney General's office that brings common sense back to the job,
I think would be a huge improvement.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Well, and you obviously would do that, but for the
folks who don't know you yet, please just give him a.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Little bit of a bile.
Speaker 7 (22:22):
Yeah, absolutely, thanks.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Colorado native.
Speaker 7 (22:25):
I grew up in the North and West metro area
in Thornton and Arvada. Graduated Neravada West, and then joined
the Navy straight out of high school and did aviation
electronics technician work for eight years. I worked on F
eighteen radar, most recently on both USS Carl Vincent and
then came back met my wife and in fact, she's
(22:46):
wondering why I'm talking to you today, Dan, because it's
our thirty first wedding anniversary today.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Oh man, we've been married thirty one two. When did
you guys get married when in ninety four?
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (22:57):
January today, January seventh, wow wow yeah wow. So anyway,
that's on the side, So come back. Met my beautiful wife, Heidi.
Went to college up in Greeley at the University of
Northern Colorado. And there's a story I'll share at some
other time about why I decided to go to law school.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
But did that?
Speaker 7 (23:18):
Went to Kansas for law school, And it's kind of
a funny thing too. I went to law school thinking
I would do something with water alotter natural resources, being
a Colorado kid and knowing how valuable water is here
in the West, so was thinking I was going to
go that direction. And I got an internship in a
DIA's offstin Johnson County, Kansas. And I've been in prosecution
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ever since, over twenty years. Now. What do you like
about it about prosecution?
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (23:46):
Yeah, you know, the thing for me that I just
always go back to is being in a courtroom standing
up for victims who can't stand up for themselves and
getting them a sense of justice and finality, and but
you know, holding their offender accountable. That's something that you know,
just standing or talking about it with you, you know,
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just warms me up inside too. And there's nothing like
that in law, I don't think, and probably similar to
what you do. You know, when you get a big
verdict like you did out in Glenwood Springs and you're
standing up for something right and doing something for people
that can't do it for themselves, that's a rewarding job
to do.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Yeah, no, thank you for mentioning that. Yeah, it's as
fulfilling as it gets.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
And I would imagine because as you know, I'm partners
with John Kellner, who you know is DA Interrupto and
Douglas and and so John has talked about how fulfilling
it is when when you can do that for victims
of a crime. And I think Michael, that's Michael Allen,
our guest he's running for DA against presumably it'll be
(24:51):
Jenni gris Well. I just think that is such a
stark contrast as you get into this Attorney General's race,
and it's it's what Colorado. I mean Colorado. I think
Colorado's across party lines. How was a Democrat for years?
You know, you want a strong law enforcement officer in
the Attorney General's office, and there's just nobody who could
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look at Jenna Griswold that way.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
So I love that contrast.
Speaker 7 (25:19):
Yeah, I did too. And I actually don't think she's
ever done anything in her courtroom to the best of
my knowledge, and I can't imagine turning over the power
of the influence of the Attorney General's office to an
attorney that hasn't actually done the work. And that's the
start contrast between her and my record. For sure. I've been,
like I said, in prosecution for twenty years, handled every
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type of case you can possibly handled. We've enacted some
things down here in the Fort Judicial that are very
unique and have really turned the tide on some of
these high profile crime trends that we've seen, like motor
vehicle theft. You know, we've led the country in motor
vehicle theft. We started the first program in the state
where we paired up a prosecutor and an investigator with
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local law enforcement to go after those cases. In twenty
twenty four, we had over five thousand motor vehicle theft cases.
In twenty twenty five. Towards the end of the year,
we were sitting at just under fifteen hundred.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Wow.
Speaker 7 (26:15):
So when you put resources towards specific crimes and you
know how to investigate and then prosecute those cases, you
can have a big impact. We've done it down here.
It's unique, and you know, I think Colorado is ready
for a different idea on how we handle the Attorney
General's office.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
In my opinion, well, it's ready for people to enforce
the law.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
I mean when you just had an attorney general says well,
and I'm paraphrase, and maybe the third or fourth stolen
car in three months will put them.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Away at Oh my lord.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
But then again, I mean you talk about the contrast
with Jenna Griswold, and on top of nobody thinking she's
a true law enforcement kind of attorney, she's hyper partisan.
I don't think people want that in the Attorney General
Gneral's office.
Speaker 7 (27:01):
I think I think Coloradin's are tired of the hyper
parties and activity from their elected politicians. I think we've
seen that out of the Attorney General's office over the
last several months. We've certainly seen it out of the
Secretary of State's office during Jenni Griswolf's tenure there, and
I think Coloradens are sick of that. I think they
want somebody in office that is going to serve the
best interests of the people of Colorado, and that's certainly
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what I intend to do as the Attorney General.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Michael.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
I am betting there are a lot of people listening
right now who are really excited because it's been a
long time since Republicans looked at a race and thought,
you know what, we really can win that race, and
this would be a big one. So where can folks
learn more about you and then support you if they
want to.
Speaker 7 (27:45):
Yeah, So we're we're going to have our web page
up in the next day or so and it'll be
Michael Allen or Colorado dot com and that's m I
C H A E L A L L E N.
And then for f O R Colorado that should be
up and live here in the next day or so.
And then we're actually doing the official kickoff this coming Monday.
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And you know what I'm excited about with that is
that I'm going to be able to see a lot
of really good friends, including John Kellner is going to
come down and spend you with us. George Brocker is
planning to be down here, and frankly, both of those
people made really strong ag candidates when they ran in
their respective races.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Amen.
Speaker 7 (28:25):
And it's good to have the support and the perspective
that they provide to Amen.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
And I just think that you're another very strong candidate,
but at an ideal time against an opponent who really
is beatable.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
So I'll certainly make a contribution. I hope other folks
do as well.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
And let's try to do a regular thing on the show.
And of course we'll invite Jenna Griswolth.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
That'd be a whot. But we'll do a regular thing
on the show and introduce you to the entire audience
over time.
Speaker 7 (28:54):
That sounds great, Dan, I appreciate that. I appreciate your
pledge of support and doing what we can to maybe
start to turn the tide little bit here in Colorado.
I think it's high time that we do that.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Now, the most important question, what are you guys doing
for your thirty first anniversary.
Speaker 7 (29:09):
We're going to go have a nice dinner at a
quiet restaurant and probably reminisce about all the different things
we've experienced over the last thirty one years.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
And I've got to work on my math because you've
been thirty one.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
This is thirty two now.
Speaker 7 (29:23):
Right, No, no, no, today's thirty one.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Yeah, thirty yes, thirty one.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Okay, yeah, yeah, just don't tell sister and Felice. I
botch that, But I won't know. What is What is
the best romantic restaurant in Colorado Springs?
Speaker 7 (29:38):
Oh there's a bunch.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
You know. JW.
Speaker 7 (29:41):
Roth he owned the Amphitheater down here. He just opened
up a really nice restaurant. We're going to try a
Cowboys Star tonight, but you know the broblem. We're actually
just opened up the Pen Road here again recently, and
I'm sure you're familiar with that.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Yeah, that's where we spent our twentieth. Yeah, that's where
we spent our twentieth. It's a great play. So Michael,
really glad that you're diving into this race. You'd make
a great attorney general and looking forward to that day.
Appreciate the time today.
Speaker 7 (30:08):
Yeah, thanks Dan, and God bless you you two.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
That is Michael Allen hopefully seem to be the Colorado
Attorney General.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
You're on the Dan Capla Show.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 8 (30:22):
We've dreaded this moment since the early stages of this
ICE presence in Minneapolis. Not only is this a concern
that we've had internally, we've been talking about it. They
are not here to cause safety in this city. What
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they are doing is not to provide safety in America.
What they are doing is causing chaos and distrust. They're
ripping families apart, They're sowing chaos on our streets and
in this case quite literally killing people. So they are
(31:03):
already trying to spin this as an action of self defense.
Having seen the video of myself, I want to tell
everybody directly that is both. This was an agent recklessly
using power that resulted in somebody dying getting killed.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Boy, that's I think called projection by the psychologists and psychiatrist.
That is the venomous mayor of Minneapolis, Jacob Frye.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
And he opens with this lie.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
That we've been dreading a moment like this. He has
been creating a moment like this, with this ongoing hatred
and venom directed at Ice. He and Tim Walls both
what did they expect would happen that they would cause
these people in this happens to be a woman named
(32:01):
Renee Good who was killed today as she drove act
and apparently hit an ICE agent according to the President,
but a woman who at one point was from Colorado,
Colorado Springs area. I believe Renee Good thirty seven years old.
So what do Tim Walls and Jacob Fry expects going
to happen? And Mike Johnston and the rest of these
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people on the left when they talk about our law
enforcement brothers and sisters in Ice in this example, when
they talk about them as the enemy, as the invaders,
as Mike Johnston did in Denver, talked about, Hey, if
we get National Guard in from other states, they're invaders.
I'm paraphrasing Mike Johnston talking about getting tens of thousands
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of Denver rights into the streets to oppose law enforcement,
federal law enforcement because he doesn't like their policies, and
talking about sending Denver police out to the county line
to fight their law enforcement brothers, to stop their federal
law enforcement brothers. What do those lefties think is going
to happen? Yeah, You're going to get some deranged wing
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nuts out there, you know, endangering federal law enforcement and
getting themselves shot, which is what happened. It appears in
Minneapolis today. So if you get a chance to look
at that video, make sure you see the different angles
because the video that's publicly available on you and I
both know that there's so much more information than publicly
(33:29):
available video.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
But from all the publicly available video.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
I've seen, you know this is a case where, without question,
this was a legally justified shoot. When somebody has been
ordered to stop by law enforcement and then they choose
to drive at law enforcement toward law enforcement, whether they
hit them or not, they should expect to get shot.
(33:55):
And it's sad, it's said anytime human life is lost.
But I'm also very sad for this ice officer because
it's a big deal to have to shoot somebody, and
when somebody who has been told to stop is to
find that order and then driving suddenly towards you, Yeah,
that there is no way in the world, based on
the video we've seen, that anybody would be able to
(34:18):
legitimately claim that that was an illegal shoot. Now, obviously
the mayor of Minneapolis doesn't care about whether he's being
accurate or honest or fair, or talking about things in
illegally appropriate manner. He obviously doesn't care about any of that.
You know, he's got his own agenda, and it's this
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far left, hateful venom that is going to get more
people killed.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
So when a guy talks like.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
That, you know that the hear the maryor of Minneapolis.
Do you think he wants riots tonight or doesn't want
riots tonight? I know, the question kind of answers itself.
So we'll keep an eye on that and hopefully there
will not be those riots. But but obviously the Mayor
of Minneapolis is doing whatever he can to promote that.
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Speaker 3 (35:12):
Hey, after the break, we'll have Vince Bisdeck with us.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
And he's doing a great job as editor of the
Denver Gazette, and they have they're always so well researched
and documented, and he has and that the Gazette has
an editorial out on the homeless industrial complex of the Democrats.
It's fascinating, it's accurate. I think it's something you'll find
very very interesting and useful. Vince Bizdeck next on The
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
Yeah, this death in Minnesota, this is what the left
has wanted. This is what the left has been encouraging.
This has been.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Enticed by the left. Think about it.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Think about it here in Colorado, Mayor Mike Johnston coming
out and talking about tens of thousands of Denver rights
taking to the street to stop Ice and Johnston talking
about using Denver police, sending him out to the county
line to combat federal law enforcement just trying to enforce
federal immigration law. So we've seen it in Colorado. We've
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seen this extraordinarily dangerous, hateful language, you know, from so
many on the left toward federal law enforcement, including Ice.
And so that's what leads to what you get in
Minnesota today, which is a lady ironically from Colorado at
one point to Rene Good, thirty seven years old according
to published reports, and her mother is now confirmed it
(01:08):
that she lost her life, but from the.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Video publicly available.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Of course, you and I don't have access to the
internal law enforcement investigations or maybe other angles, but from
everything publicly available, it appears to be a woman who
defied lawful orders of ICE, driving away from ICE after
ICE contacted her at her vehicle, and then driving straight
toward an ICE agent who then appears to have been hit.
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President Trump says he was hit and is in the hospital.
Appears to have been hit, and then he opened fire
in self defense. So you know that the very sad
situation in Minnesota. It's it's sad because it's so unnecessary.
But the Left doesn't have regard for human life. The left,
anybody think the left has any real regard for her life,
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certainly doesn't have any regard for the life of law enforcement,
doesn't have any regard for the life of the victims
of those here illegally who've then committed rape, murder, etc.
And of course that's a small percentage of the folks
here I legally, but it's still a whole bunch of
rape and murder victims who never should have been rape
and murder victims. Do you think the Left has any
(02:19):
concern for those victims?
Speaker 3 (02:20):
No? No, So this is what the left encourages.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Whether it's here in Colorado, it's in Minnesota, it's across
the country. It's part of this whole effort I've talked
with you about before, and this No Kings, this big
nationwide No Kings protest, was, as I pointed out at
the time, just part of a dry run to get
out mass numbers of people for when they really have
to and their whole plan on the left, and that
(02:46):
includes here in Colorado, is to be able to be
the new rebels, the new Confederates, to defy federal law
when they don't want to follow federal law. And that
has been their play around the country. And they're just
absolutely outraged that the Feds Trump would dare to actually
enforce federal law. So it's a very serious, bigger issue
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in this nation. I feel horribly for this woman's family
because they've lost a daughter. That's the fault to the left,
it's not the fault of law enforcement. I feel horribly
for the Ice agent who had to fire those shots
to protect himself, And for anybody who suggests at this
point now play some sound for you where you'll hear this.
(03:30):
I believe, my personal opinion very corrupt and morally bankrupt.
Tim Wallas, governor of Minnesota, where you hear him suggesting
this was a bad shoot, I'm paraphrasing, and Walls under
the guise of calling for Colm I believe, actually trying
to stir up more trouble.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
And there are some.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Riotous type behavior going on right now in Minnesota that
we'll continue to follow. But what we have in the
end here is open and shut. I mean there's not
even from the publicly available video, there's not even a
question about whether this was a legal shoot. It is
so clearly from what we can see right now, a
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legal shoot.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
So prayers for everybody involved.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
The left has pedaled violence for as long as I
can remember, right, I mean, I was a target of
it at CEU, you know when the left tried to
stir up violence against me and then eventually did. And
it's just it's what they do because they can't win
the argument on the facts and reason and common morality,
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so they have to use violence as a tool in
many different forms.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
But do you see what we have happening right now?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
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I'd love to get your thoughts on this. We'll be
talking about it throughout the show because we expect there
to be developments throughout the show. Is Minnesota hopefully does
not go down down the road toward more mass violence.
But they've got this really vile, venomous, hateful mayor up
(05:09):
there who just stokes the flames and is stoking the
flames right now. Will play some sound from him reportedly
telling the police to back off as large demonstrations gather.
And we've seen this act before in Minnesota. Write following
the death of George Floyd, and you talk about the
contrast here because you go back to what I view
(05:30):
as the killing of George Floyd, and I understand the
case made by those in defense of the officer, and
I respect that. My opinion from everything I've seen is
that that officer committed a crime and George Floyd.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Lost his life as a result.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
But a black and white difference from everything we can
see right now between the death of George Floyd and
the death of this woman from Colorado, Rene Good today,
because it appears to me the law enforcement officer, the
ice agent had no choice and had to act in
self defense and even if he did have a choice,
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it's still it appears to me a one hundred percent
legal shoot. So we'll talk about that throughout the show.
Is things developed, heads up that we're gonna have Kelsey
Reinhart with us. She's the president and CEO of Catholic
Vote and that organization is a big deal. Excuse me,
and Kelsey will be with us at four twenty to
talk about a major development since yesterday when President Trump
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told Congressional Republicans that have to be quote flexible on
the High Amendment, and that isn't going to happen. I
mean that the High Amendment is non negotiable, the High Amendment,
which prevents federal funding of abortion except under very very
very limited circumstances. So Kelsey Rehinehart will be here to
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talk about that and what the President's referring to and
where that is likely to end up.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
But one quick spoiler.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Alert, unless you want the Republicans to lose fifty sixty
seventy seats in the midterms, it don't mess with the
High Amendment because I'll tell you right now, if this
Republican administration was to alter the High Amendment so that
we had federal funding of abortion beyond what we have today.
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Republicans can get wiped out in the midterms that there
are so many people who are mainly sometimes only voting
for Republicans because they are pro life, and an absolute
core of the pro life position is nobody, nobody should
have to fund the killing of innocent human life out
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of their pocket involuntarily. It shouldn't be allowed voluntarily, but
involuntarily forcing Americans to pay out of their pocket.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
For the killing of innicent human life.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
No, the Republicans would get wiped out in They're going
to lose in the midterms anyway. But there's a big
difference between you know, all of a sudden being in
a five six seven seat minority to all of a
sudden being in a thirty or forty seat minority. Three
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Speaker 3 (08:15):
Three nine.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I want to introduce you to guy, if you haven't
met him already or heard him talk. A guy named
Michael Allen, really good DA out of El Paso County.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
He'll be with us at four thirty six.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Michael Allen is going to be taking on presumably Jenna
Griswold in the Attorney General's race, and I'm grateful to
Michael for joining us because he has a real chance
to win. He has a real chance to win. First,
he's a very good candidate. But we've seen a lot
of really good GOP candidates lose in the current state
of Colorado. But Michael Allen's a really good candidate. And
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Jenna Griswold is whack. I mean, any honest person is
going to admit.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
She's just whack.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
And well, Coloradin's really want her as their chief law
enforcement officer, I don't think so. So that's a real
chance for the GOP to win a statewide race. I
want you to meet Michael at four thirty six and
then think about supporting his campaign.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Vince Bizdick, the.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Editor of the Denver Gazette, will be with us at
five oh six because that had this tremendous editorial on
something we've talked about before. But they they're so thorough
at the Gazette. They did such a great job of
documenting it, this homeless industrial complex as they label it
in Denver. Now you have a lot of well intentioned
people doing a lot of good work to help homeless people.
(09:34):
But then you have the political enterprise that complex and
the gazette documents. How you know the Democrats are feeding
money to different interest group cronies, etc. Under the guise
of this fight against homelessness. All of that coming up
here on the Dan Capla Show.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
Let the money go in a healthcare account or however
you do it. Let the money go directly to the people. Now,
you have to be a little flexible on hide. You
know that you gotta be a little flexible. You gotta
work something, you gotta use ingenuity, you gotta work. We're
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all big fans of everything, but you gotta be flexy.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
You have to have flexibility n some things you don't
have to be flexible on some things you should not
be flexible, and in the amendment is one of those. Hey,
nobody better to talk to about this than Kelsey Reinhardt.
She is the president and CEO of Catholic Vote. Catholic
Vote is a very very big deal on the national scene,
including the national political scene, and Kelsey has one of
(10:44):
the most interesting stories you'll ever hear. We don't have
time today to get into the whole thing, but former
guard for the Notre Dame women's basketball team where she
got her theology degree. And then, as I understand it, Kelsey,
you were a member of the Dominican Sisters of Saint
Cecilia and then went on to positions with the Catholic bishops,
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et cetera. Like, does that mean you were a full
scale none like the kind of nunness who set me
straight in grade school?
Speaker 6 (11:13):
Indeed, yes, the one who smile, who pray rosaries and
set children streat in grade school.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Oh, I thank god, Wow, what a story. You write
a book and I will buy it. I mean, I
tell everybody who listened, Sister and Felice, thank God for her.
She was a God send in my life, though I
did not think it at the time as she was
beating me with that plastic ketchup bottle.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
But I need that. I needed that. So hey, thanks
for being here.
Speaker 6 (11:42):
Thank you, thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Yeah, and so please, if you would, Kelsey, tell for
those who don't know, folks, what the High Amendment is
and what the position of Catholic vote is on whether.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
There should be any flexibility with that.
Speaker 6 (11:58):
Sure, the High Amendment, it was developed in nineteen seventy
six in order to prevent millions of Americans and taxpayers
from subsidizing a practice abortion that they believe to be
morally wrong. And it has prevented the government from becoming
a main provider of abortions and money going towards that.
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It's really helped us keep the guardrails on our spending
so that it reflects a basic moral consensus. And that's
exactly why we, a Catholice, felt like it was just
impossible for us to be flexible on the High Amendment.
It's simply the fact that Americans should not be compelled
to fund abortions with their tax dollars. There's no opt
(12:43):
out provision for that except for the High Amendment, which
is why it's enjoyed bipartisan support for five decades.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Right, And I haven't seen the latest polling on it,
And at a certain point the polling wouldn't even matter,
because right is right and wrong is wrong. But I
think gets always enjoyed strong support across party lines.
Speaker 6 (13:04):
Yes, and that's one of the remarkable things about this.
Henry Hyde, who was the Institution in the Senate, really
cobbled together this consensus bipartisan and since it's been enacted,
two point six million lives have been saved, according to
the Charlotte Lazier Institute. So it really is effective. And
there were some loopholes of the Biden Agency, the Biden
(13:29):
administration instituted to kind of work around it, but it
has enjoyed bipartisan support since the beginning.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
And that's one of my big concerns.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
If it was a Republican administration which now loosened the
High Amendment, you know that the horrible precedent that would
say and I have to believe that you take one
brick out of that wall, the whole wall would soon crumble.
So what is Catholic vote going to do? What can
other people do at this point too? And I'm just
speaking for myself, but I think Trump has been historically
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great for the pro life movement, historically great for America
in the world.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
But this is a really big deal.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
So what can people do to try to stop the
President and the GOP from refining the High Amendment?
Speaker 5 (14:17):
Right?
Speaker 6 (14:18):
Well, I, you know, Dan, I almost think that what
we have done in the last twenty four hours by
making known to our representatives our views on this has
already in fact changed the position of the White House.
The Press secretary today, Caroline Levitt, said the president did
not change the administration's policy, and you know, she added
(14:41):
that Trump's comments were about flexibility were directed to both
Republicans and Democrats, kind of trying to spend it in
such a way as to say, oh, it should be
the Democrats who compromise on this way by passing the
High Amendment. So that's quite a statement coming twenty four
hours later. And then Speaker Mike Johnson just said, you know,
(15:04):
flat out, we are not going to change the standard
that we've been using for taxpayer funding for abortion. I'm
just not going to allow that to happen. So I
think a consistent campaign of pressure, making known to your
public officials how you feel about this, voicing on social media,
you know, all of the all of the channels that
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you can use to say that this is not about inflexibility,
it's about the trust of the pro life voters, and
it's about moral consistency. And I think those will be
really effective with this administration.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Looks like it has been already.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Kelsey Reinhard, our guest president and CEO of Catholic Vote,
how can people support Catholic voter learn more about it
if they're thinking of supporting it.
Speaker 6 (15:51):
Yeah, Catholic vote dot org. Visit our website. We do
great work putting out policy and h and new story
so that people can say, you know, you can be
an informed citizen in four minutes or less by signing
up to our daily email newsletter that gives you all
the news that you need to read in one sitting.
(16:12):
So tastvote dot org. You can support us and sign
up for our newsletter, The Loop.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
And I've got to tell you The Loop is awesome.
I read it every day. I use the help with showprep.
But thirty second story if you don't mind, Kelsey, because
one of my most powerful memories as a kid, and
as we sit here today is my mom, you know,
mother of five South Side of Chicago. Yeah, I consider
her a founder of the pro life movement, though you
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wouldn't find her listed in any you know stories or
anything like that. But vivid memory of just after row passing,
trying to get a grassroots group together basement of Holy
Cross Hospital on the South Side of Chicago, and picturing
my mom and Henry Hyde the only two who showed up.
My mom and Henry Hyde just huddle together in the
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basement of the hospital, talking about, Hey, what do we do?
Speaker 3 (17:04):
What do we do to.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Try to fight this and protect kids? And to me
that you know, if Norman Rockwell was there, he would
have painted that, because I'm sure that was happening all
over America, just people getting together in twos and threes
and tens trying to figure out how to fight back.
And they eventually won, right, they eventually got row overturns.
So just a vivid image for me. But I appreciate
(17:27):
everything you and Catholic Vote are doing and appreciate your
time today.
Speaker 6 (17:32):
Thank you so much. We will not give up the
fight for life until every baby in the room is
protected and afforded those same human rights that each of
us deserve. So well. Appreciate the chance to talk with
you today.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Dan, It's the civil rights issue of our lifetime. So
thank you for taking the lead. And catch you next time.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Okay, thank you.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
That is Kelsey Reinhert doing a great job as president
and CEO of Catholic Votes. So good to hear that
the administration and is listening and understanding, maybe more so
than it did before the magnitude of the importance of
the High Amendment on multiple levels, a bottom line being
(18:13):
that it has literally saved millions of lives. And so
I expect that we are not going to see any
flexibility when it comes to the High Amendment.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
And that is a good thing.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Hey, when we come back, this is exciting a Republican
with a real chance to win statewide office and the
Attorney general's office on top of that, he's the DA
in Opaso County right now. His expected opponent is Jenna
griswol He's going to be an excellent candidate. She is
clearly whack. No disrespect intended, she is whack. So Michael
(18:49):
Ellen next on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
That's perfect ryme.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Why do you have the feeling we're going to be
hearing that walk up after Michael Allen is elected Attorney
General from the state of Colorado. That would be a
beautiful thing. Michael, welcome back to the Dan Kapli Show.
Speaker 7 (19:23):
Thank you for having me. Dan, I really appreciate the
opportunity to chat with you today.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Well, you know, this is a big deal.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
I mean, we sit here right now with a lot
of people thinking a Republican cannot win statewide in Colorado,
and yet we look at this attorney general's race and
we've got you, who I think would be a very
very strong candidate, and we'll get into that. And then
we have Jenna Griswold. And this isn't meant as a
(19:50):
pejorative or playground or anything like that, but she's just
flat whack. And I think the people of Colorado get that.
I mean, you could look at some other Democrats out
there and say, hey, I disagree with them ideologically and
this and that, but you know, they're really competent legal
professionals who would be competent attorney generals. I don't know
(20:13):
a handful of people in Colorado who would look at
Jenna Griswold and say.
Speaker 7 (20:16):
That, Yeah, I don't disagree with what you're saying there.
You know, the other side of the coin, though, with this,
is that she's ready to boatload of money already prior
to me getting the race. So we're still going to
have our work cut out for us. It's not going
to be a walk in the park. And I know
you're not saying that. You know, we have at one
a state wide Republican hasn't won statewide and what over
(20:39):
a decade now, So we're going to have to work
really hard to get this across the line and make
that message stick.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Yeah, and I get the concern about the money, Michael
Allen our gas the I'll pass the DA. I get
the concern about the money. But when's the last time
you drank new coke? And how much did they spend
marketing new coke? But yeah, no, but he wanted to
it because it was bad. But I understand easy for
me to laugh off. I'm not the candidate. You're the
(21:06):
guy out there putting your neck on the line and
doing all the hard work. But I just think that
when it comes to the Attorney General's office, when it
comes to law and law enforcement things like that, I
think Coloraden's are going to think about that race.
Speaker 7 (21:21):
I sure hope you're right. I mean, what we've seen
over the last decade is statewide government has been dominated
by Democrats, and when you have that imbalance of power,
you start to get some laws that have been pretty wacky,
you know, decriminalizing dangerous drugs like fentanyl, making it hard
to go after motor vehicle theft offenders that kind of thing.
(21:43):
And those things have both a human impact, so they're
obviously impacting the people that are affected by the crimes themselves,
but there's a huge economic impact too that we can't discount.
And you know, the common sensus and to put out
a report not too long back, maybe in the last
month or so, talking about the impact of crime on
our economic well being in Colorado, so you know, we've
(22:05):
got to address that. And to get somebody into the
Attorney General's office that brings common sense back to the job,
I think would be a huge improvement.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Well, and you obviously would do that, but for the
folks who don't know you yet, please just give him a.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Little bit of a bile.
Speaker 7 (22:22):
Yeah, absolutely, thanks.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Colorado native.
Speaker 7 (22:25):
I grew up in the North and West metro area
in Thornton and Arvada. Graduated Neravada West, and then joined
the Navy straight out of high school and did aviation
electronics technician work for eight years. I worked on F
eighteen radar, most recently on both USS Carl Vincent and
then came back met my wife and in fact, she's
(22:46):
wondering why I'm talking to you today, Dan, because it's
our thirty first wedding anniversary today.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Oh man, we've been married thirty one two. When did
you guys get married when in ninety four?
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (22:57):
January today, January seventh, wow wow yeah wow. So anyway,
that's on the side, So come back. Met my beautiful wife, Heidi.
Went to college up in Greeley at the University of
Northern Colorado. And there's a story I'll share at some
other time about why I decided to go to law school.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
But did that?
Speaker 7 (23:18):
Went to Kansas for law school, And it's kind of
a funny thing too. I went to law school thinking
I would do something with water alotter natural resources, being
a Colorado kid and knowing how valuable water is here
in the West, so was thinking I was going to
go that direction. And I got an internship in a
DIA's offstin Johnson County, Kansas. And I've been in prosecution
(23:39):
ever since, over twenty years. Now. What do you like
about it about prosecution?
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (23:46):
Yeah, you know, the thing for me that I just
always go back to is being in a courtroom standing
up for victims who can't stand up for themselves and
getting them a sense of justice and finality, and but
you know, holding their offender accountable. That's something that you know,
just standing or talking about it with you, you know,
(24:07):
just warms me up inside too. And there's nothing like
that in law, I don't think, and probably similar to
what you do. You know, when you get a big
verdict like you did out in Glenwood Springs and you're
standing up for something right and doing something for people
that can't do it for themselves, that's a rewarding job
to do.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Yeah, no, thank you for mentioning that. Yeah, it's as
fulfilling as it gets.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
And I would imagine because as you know, I'm partners
with John Kellner, who you know is DA Interrupto and
Douglas and and so John has talked about how fulfilling
it is when when you can do that for victims
of a crime. And I think Michael, that's Michael Allen,
our guest he's running for DA against presumably it'll be
(24:51):
Jenni gris Well. I just think that is such a
stark contrast as you get into this Attorney General's race,
and it's it's what Colorado. I mean Colorado. I think
Colorado's across party lines. How was a Democrat for years?
You know, you want a strong law enforcement officer in
the Attorney General's office, and there's just nobody who could
(25:13):
look at Jenna Griswold that way.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
So I love that contrast.
Speaker 7 (25:19):
Yeah, I did too. And I actually don't think she's
ever done anything in her courtroom to the best of
my knowledge, and I can't imagine turning over the power
of the influence of the Attorney General's office to an
attorney that hasn't actually done the work. And that's the
start contrast between her and my record. For sure. I've been,
like I said, in prosecution for twenty years, handled every
(25:41):
type of case you can possibly handled. We've enacted some
things down here in the Fort Judicial that are very
unique and have really turned the tide on some of
these high profile crime trends that we've seen, like motor
vehicle theft. You know, we've led the country in motor
vehicle theft. We started the first program in the state
where we paired up a prosecutor and an investigator with
(26:04):
local law enforcement to go after those cases. In twenty
twenty four, we had over five thousand motor vehicle theft cases.
In twenty twenty five. Towards the end of the year,
we were sitting at just under fifteen hundred.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Wow.
Speaker 7 (26:15):
So when you put resources towards specific crimes and you
know how to investigate and then prosecute those cases, you
can have a big impact. We've done it down here.
It's unique, and you know, I think Colorado is ready
for a different idea on how we handle the Attorney
General's office.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
In my opinion, well, it's ready for people to enforce
the law.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
I mean when you just had an attorney general says well,
and I'm paraphrase, and maybe the third or fourth stolen
car in three months will put them.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Away at Oh my lord.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
But then again, I mean you talk about the contrast
with Jenna Griswold, and on top of nobody thinking she's
a true law enforcement kind of attorney, she's hyper partisan.
I don't think people want that in the Attorney General
Gneral's office.
Speaker 7 (27:01):
I think I think Coloradin's are tired of the hyper
parties and activity from their elected politicians. I think we've
seen that out of the Attorney General's office over the
last several months. We've certainly seen it out of the
Secretary of State's office during Jenni Griswolf's tenure there, and
I think Coloradens are sick of that. I think they
want somebody in office that is going to serve the
best interests of the people of Colorado, and that's certainly
(27:24):
what I intend to do as the Attorney General.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Michael.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
I am betting there are a lot of people listening
right now who are really excited because it's been a
long time since Republicans looked at a race and thought,
you know what, we really can win that race, and
this would be a big one. So where can folks
learn more about you and then support you if they
want to.
Speaker 7 (27:45):
Yeah, So we're we're going to have our web page
up in the next day or so and it'll be
Michael Allen or Colorado dot com and that's m I
C H A E L A L L E N.
And then for f O R Colorado that should be
up and live here in the next day or so.
And then we're actually doing the official kickoff this coming Monday.
(28:06):
And you know what I'm excited about with that is
that I'm going to be able to see a lot
of really good friends, including John Kellner is going to
come down and spend you with us. George Brocker is
planning to be down here, and frankly, both of those
people made really strong ag candidates when they ran in
their respective races.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Amen.
Speaker 7 (28:25):
And it's good to have the support and the perspective
that they provide to Amen.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
And I just think that you're another very strong candidate,
but at an ideal time against an opponent who really
is beatable.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
So I'll certainly make a contribution. I hope other folks
do as well.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
And let's try to do a regular thing on the show.
And of course we'll invite Jenna Griswolth.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
That'd be a whot. But we'll do a regular thing
on the show and introduce you to the entire audience
over time.
Speaker 7 (28:54):
That sounds great, Dan, I appreciate that. I appreciate your
pledge of support and doing what we can to maybe
start to turn the tide little bit here in Colorado.
I think it's high time that we do that.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Now, the most important question, what are you guys doing
for your thirty first anniversary.
Speaker 7 (29:09):
We're going to go have a nice dinner at a
quiet restaurant and probably reminisce about all the different things
we've experienced over the last thirty one years.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
And I've got to work on my math because you've
been thirty one.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
This is thirty two now.
Speaker 7 (29:23):
Right, No, no, no, today's thirty one.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Yeah, thirty yes, thirty one.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Okay, yeah, yeah, just don't tell sister and Felice. I
botch that, But I won't know. What is What is
the best romantic restaurant in Colorado Springs?
Speaker 7 (29:38):
Oh there's a bunch.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
You know. JW.
Speaker 7 (29:41):
Roth he owned the Amphitheater down here. He just opened
up a really nice restaurant. We're going to try a
Cowboys Star tonight, but you know the broblem. We're actually
just opened up the Pen Road here again recently, and
I'm sure you're familiar with that.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Yeah, that's where we spent our twentieth. Yeah, that's where
we spent our twentieth. It's a great play. So Michael,
really glad that you're diving into this race. You'd make
a great attorney general and looking forward to that day.
Appreciate the time today.
Speaker 7 (30:08):
Yeah, thanks Dan, and God bless you you two.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
That is Michael Allen hopefully seem to be the Colorado
Attorney General.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
You're on the Dan Capla Show.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 8 (30:22):
We've dreaded this moment since the early stages of this
ICE presence in Minneapolis. Not only is this a concern
that we've had internally, we've been talking about it. They
are not here to cause safety in this city. What
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they are doing is not to provide safety in America.
What they are doing is causing chaos and distrust. They're
ripping families apart, They're sowing chaos on our streets and
in this case quite literally killing people. So they are
(31:03):
already trying to spin this as an action of self defense.
Having seen the video of myself, I want to tell
everybody directly that is both. This was an agent recklessly
using power that resulted in somebody dying getting killed.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Boy, that's I think called projection by the psychologists and psychiatrist.
That is the venomous mayor of Minneapolis, Jacob Frye.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
And he opens with this lie.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
That we've been dreading a moment like this. He has
been creating a moment like this, with this ongoing hatred
and venom directed at Ice. He and Tim Walls both
what did they expect would happen that they would cause
these people in this happens to be a woman named
(32:01):
Renee Good who was killed today as she drove act
and apparently hit an ICE agent according to the President,
but a woman who at one point was from Colorado,
Colorado Springs area. I believe Renee Good thirty seven years old.
So what do Tim Walls and Jacob Fry expects going
to happen? And Mike Johnston and the rest of these
(32:22):
people on the left when they talk about our law
enforcement brothers and sisters in Ice in this example, when
they talk about them as the enemy, as the invaders,
as Mike Johnston did in Denver, talked about, Hey, if
we get National Guard in from other states, they're invaders.
I'm paraphrasing Mike Johnston talking about getting tens of thousands
(32:44):
of Denver rights into the streets to oppose law enforcement,
federal law enforcement because he doesn't like their policies, and
talking about sending Denver police out to the county line
to fight their law enforcement brothers, to stop their federal
law enforcement brothers. What do those lefties think is going
to happen? Yeah, You're going to get some deranged wing
(33:09):
nuts out there, you know, endangering federal law enforcement and
getting themselves shot, which is what happened. It appears in
Minneapolis today. So if you get a chance to look
at that video, make sure you see the different angles
because the video that's publicly available on you and I
both know that there's so much more information than publicly
(33:29):
available video.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
But from all the publicly available video.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
I've seen, you know this is a case where, without question,
this was a legally justified shoot. When somebody has been
ordered to stop by law enforcement and then they choose
to drive at law enforcement toward law enforcement, whether they
hit them or not, they should expect to get shot.
(33:55):
And it's sad, it's said anytime human life is lost.
But I'm also very sad for this ice officer because
it's a big deal to have to shoot somebody, and
when somebody who has been told to stop is to
find that order and then driving suddenly towards you, Yeah,
that there is no way in the world, based on
the video we've seen, that anybody would be able to
(34:18):
legitimately claim that that was an illegal shoot. Now, obviously
the mayor of Minneapolis doesn't care about whether he's being
accurate or honest or fair, or talking about things in
illegally appropriate manner. He obviously doesn't care about any of that.
You know, he's got his own agenda, and it's this
(34:40):
far left, hateful venom that is going to get more
people killed.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
So when a guy talks like.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
That, you know that the hear the maryor of Minneapolis.
Do you think he wants riots tonight or doesn't want
riots tonight? I know, the question kind of answers itself.
So we'll keep an eye on that and hopefully there
will not be those riots. But but obviously the Mayor
of Minneapolis is doing whatever he can to promote that.
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Three at three seOne three eight two five five the
number text d A N five seven seven three nine.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Hey, after the break, we'll have Vince Bisdeck with us.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
And he's doing a great job as editor of the
Denver Gazette, and they have they're always so well researched
and documented, and he has and that the Gazette has
an editorial out on the homeless industrial complex of the Democrats.
It's fascinating, it's accurate. I think it's something you'll find
very very interesting and useful. Vince Bizdeck next on The
(35:39):
Dan Kapla Show.
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