February 19, 2025 • 35 mins
In the first hour of today's edition of The Dan Caplis Show, Kristi Burton Brown is filling in for Dan. KBB shares her thoughts on DOGE, what the Democrats are trying to hide by attacking it, and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
Welcome to Dan Taplas Show. I'm Christy Burton Brown in
for Dan today. Get to be with you all.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
And you know, I think there never is.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
An end it seems to how many executive orders President
Trump wants to do. One thing I find particularly interesting
about it is many times conservatives, when they get elected,
believe so much in the system and how we do
things that they don't actually use the four years they
have in their term to get things done. I think
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this is what distinguishes Trump from so many Republican predecessors
as president.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
And even in many ways from his own.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
First term, is he's decided that he's going to use
these last four years he has as president to actually
get things done. I mean, Biden did in innumerable amount
of executive orders on everything under the sun that he.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Wanted to do. And while I believe there's a mix
in how much as.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
A conservative we should believe in the in the system
and operate within it and get things done the right way,
even if the process takes a little bit longer. I
think there's a lot of value to that in some ways.
But on the flip side, I think when we become
the only people committed to process, committed to a system
and doing things the long, slow, drawn out way for
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one thing, sometimes that's just how we have been interpreting
the system, and it's actually not even the only powers
you have. But I think we run then the error
of we get delayed and so many things we try
to do when we have our four years in power,
and the other side just cranks it out one after
the other after the other and changes government in monumental ways.
And then when we get in we kind of like
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slow down what they've done, but don't advance our causes.
And we know that the president actually does have executive authority,
and it's not just to stand on a soapbox and
make speeches. It actually is to make executive orders. Now,
as an attorney myself, I believe in checks and balances
into three branches of government, and there absolutely are some
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things that Congress has the ability to do. Congress has
the purse strings there are appropriations that Congress makes, there's
budget approvals that Congress does, so that one person, as
in the president, isn't solely making all budgetary decisions for
the entire country.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
I think it's a great check in balance.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
We look at the judicial branch and we see that
courts can rein in an executive agency or the president,
or you know, really any part of any branch of
government that's making missteps and taking too much power. So
because I think it's because I believe so much in
the checks and balances in.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
The American system of government and in.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
The three branches, that I think conservatives should feel a
little more free when they are the ones in power
and they are the ones elected to go out and
do things like the system controls itself.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
The checks and balances we've.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Put into our family put in place have worked for
you know, almost two hundred and fifty years, and I
think we can trust in that system to keep us
in line and don't need to be so hesitant to
get things done. So all that to say, that's why
i'm personally, while I don't agree with every single one
of his executive orders, I am very excited to see
a new approach by President Trump to say, you know what,
I'm moving from day one, from the ground up, and
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we're going to build things in the ways that voters
elected him to do. I think that's very, very encouraging.
If you have thoughts about this or anything else we
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five five. I'm Christy Burton Brown here for Dan.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Today.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
One executive order that I think came down today, maybe
it was yesterday. Trump wants to expand funding and coverage
for IBF. I think there's one perspective I saw on
this on Twitter, and yes I do go on Twitter
sometimes to get political news and opinion. I think one
one feedback I saw that I thought it was pretty
interesting is people said, Hey, there's some pro lifers out
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there criticizing him for doing this because a lot of
babies are discarded through the IVF process. But they said,
I think what his actual goal in this is is
to promote the birth of more children, more life in
the United States, and that is a good goal. I
think what he misses and his administration misses is that
there are a lot of tighter actually regulations around IVF
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in Europe even than there are in the United States,
because in the US there are very few regulations as
to how many embryos a doctor can create at one time,
and so you do have clinics creating fifteen twenty embryos,
and no person out there is going to have twenty kids,
and then many of them do get discarded. They get tested,
if they're not exactly perfect, they get thrown away. I
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think if you're a pro life person, you're not going
to agree with that kind of a process. But I
think some pro lifers on Twitter are taking it way
too far by saying everything about IVF is in moral
There's no way a pro life conservative president should be
doing this. I think it should be more balanced. I
do actually think that it would be good for insurance
companies to fund the efforts of families who are trying
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to have children.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
We need more children in the United States.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
But I think a priority should be put to actually
put ethical regulations on IVF, because right now there are
not a good number of ethical regulations on how doctors
do it to not intentionally discard new lives that are
created and to create so many that you know, one
couple is never going to actually give life to that
many children. So anyway, there's there's my thoughts on one
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of his executive orders from today that's getting a whole
lot of attention. Again, you can call it any time
eight five five four zero five eight two five five.
We do know, of course, that Doge is always in
the news with some new cut that should be made,
some new expose on how the federal government is spending
too much taxpayer money on frivolous ventures or ideological pursuits
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by the former administration. What I have found particularly interesting
about all the things that Joje has been exposing is
that this.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Wasn't something that other presidents couldn't have done.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
It actually shows how much could have happened if people
zeroed in, nailed down from day one and said we
always talk as conservatives that one of our main goals
is to save taxpayer's money, to cut wasteful government spending.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
But when we get into the position often.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Well we see the point of using money on our
own goals, and well it's kind of hard to cut.
And what I love that Doge is doing is they
don't get to make the law. They don't get to
actually make the cuts, don't have that power or authority,
but they get to expose what's actually going on. And
I think that exposing of all the waste, the fraud,
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the corruption, and what our taxpayer dollars are going to
is very enlightening to the American people at large and
is going to give conservatives the ability to really go
out and tackle a lot of these things. Some of
it's going to have to be done through Congress, which
makes appropriations rolls of purse strings, but it's going to
give us, in some ways the information we always needed
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to maybe back up and have evidence for the things
that I think a lot of conservatives has always suspected.
I think Rand Paul used to publish this list he
prize still does it of all the wasteful things in
the federal budget and all the crazy studies that were
funded in the United States, all the like pork barrel
things that different senators and representatives wanted for their districts
in order to vote for the bill, which is its
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own big mess.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
But I think Dough has gone even beyond.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
That, and USAID or USA however you call it, just oh,
the crazy amounts of waste there. And again, I think
there's a balanced position to take USAID funds some important
almost like soft power things in the world and gives
the US the ability to do diplomacy, to make negotiations,
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to in some ways control what other countries do. But
hiding behind that purpose has been all of these ideological
fundings of absolutely corrupt, crazy programs, some of which we'll
talk about later in the show today. And so I
think too many people elected politicians in particular are latching
on to the original goal of USAID and saying, well,
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it's important that the US not lose its soft power
in the world. It is diplomatic ability to pressure other
countries through funding to get things done. Okay, we can
believe in the original purpose of a lot of federal
agencies or international programs or national things that the US
government does.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
But if you don't believe that it has been misused.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Over the years and morphed into something that was never
designed to be, then you're not awake and you're not
paying attention. And so I think that's the benefit of
what Doge and Elon Musk and President Trump and his
entire administration are doing right now is saying you know what,
We're not just going to say that we need to cut,
that we need to save taxpayers money, that we need
to expose waste and corruption.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
We're actually going to show you in the.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
News, day after day after day all the ways that
you're money is being misused and abused and misspent by
the federal government. And then hey, if you guys want
this all to you know, we want us to get
rid of it, put pressure on your congressman to get
it done. I think we'll see President Trump continue to
get rid of a lot of the waste we'll spending
through executive orders. I think some of that will be successful,
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but some of it is going to be pushed back
to Congress. And so I think people, if you care
about this, if you're hearing the expose is on the
waste and corruption, you need to contact your congressman and
whoever else at the federal level and say that they
need to make these cuts.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
I'm Christy Burton Brown here on the Dan Kaplis Show.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
You can call in over the break eight five five
four zero five eight two five five. But we'll get
into more detail on what exactly Doge has exposed when
we come back.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
And now back to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast, So
great fan Ryan.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
As always, it rides me of my weekend.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
I was actually down in Calder Springs at Colorado College
at a debates tournament where junior high and high school
students have multiple forms of debate. One form they do
is parliamentary debates, and so they get a resolution on
the spot. They get twenty minutes to prepare a case,
and the debate it for I don't know, forty five minutes,
and so one pretends to be the government and one
pretends to be the leader of the opposition, kind of
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like the British system. And so in the semi final round,
the resolution actually had to do with Citizens United, and
it was whether or not the Supreme Court should overturn.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
The Citizens United decision, which, if you're.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
All involved in campaigns and campaign finance law, you're aware
of that decision. But one of the teams totally focused
on the idea that Citizens United only allowed billionaires to
spend their money in elections. So, you know, I think
that's a misrepresentation of the case, and the team that
made that pitch did not prevail, probably in part because
they didn't really understand the decision a little hard to
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do in a twenty minute research period, but I probably
a good lesson for that team to not necessarily go
to the common arguments for how a case is pitched,
but actually dive deep and see what really happened.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
It only benefits the billionaires.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Bernie Sanders jumping in a moment here.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
You got to wonder, too, Christy, what you just described,
how much of that is a product of indoctrination of
just that's what they've.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Been taught, that's all they know, and that's where their
head goes.
Speaker 6 (11:12):
Well.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
And two, I think this is what I actually helped
coach some of the teams, in partly not the ones
who were in that round.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
But what I try and tell them to do is
is it matters.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
How you research, because I think no matter how you
may or may not be taught in your home or
in your gree club or wherever you go to learn
things at school. Also, depending on how you research on Google,
you can get a whole lot of biased information that
does try to indoctrinate you if you don't know how
to sort between that and say, you know what these
sources are on this side, So I have to take
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what they say, with a grain of salt, still understand
the side, but not just one hundred percent believe it.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
These sources are on this side.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
These are more in the middle and kind of I
think knowing how to do your research will enable you
to get actually quality information instead of one side, you know,
potentially trying to convince you that their way of seeing it,
honest specific Supreme Court case or whatever else is the
only facts involved idea. I just think for life, that's
one thing I want to teach you the kids I
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help coach. But speaking of money, we were talking about
Doge in the last section, and I find it interesting
that Ran, I think I'm right on this that we
have a number of clips from Kevin O'Leary from the
Shark Tank.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Well we do, okay, Well up there, that's perfect. My
son loves Shark Tank.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
He is my like really inventive kid who loves to
come up with ideas. And I think he might want
to have his own business one day. We'll see, you know,
he's eleven right now, so we'll see what he actually
ends up doing. But he loves Shark Tank. And I
find it interesting when you have real business people speak
into politics, because sometimes they can cut through the nonsense
and say, you know what, here's what we're actually doing.
Political sides aside, political speak a side, let's look at
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what's actually getting done. So I do find some of
his advice for Doge a kind of interesting. I'll play
you this clip right now.
Speaker 7 (12:55):
I think the issue is they're not whacking enough. There's
this concept in private equity when you get a bankrupt
company and you go in there, you cut twenty percent
more than your initial read and then you find like
a pool of mercury, the organization jels back together again.
Always cut deeper, harder when there's fat and.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Waste, which is very good advice.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
There's a lot of people out there drying in the
media more, you know, from the other party, liberals saying
that Dough is cutting too deep and going after programs
like USAID that like the America needs for its standing
in the world, and you have a real business ferus
in here saying you know what, Actually, no, they need
to suggest even deeper cuts because if you want to
solve the systemic issues, you actually want to rid government
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of as much corruption as possible, you need to go
deeper than you even think you need to go. And
so I find that to be very interesting advice. He
also talks about a few other things. I think his
recommendation is actually to cut everything. But let's listen in.
Speaker 7 (13:53):
Cut cut, cut, cut, cut.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
More more cutting.
Speaker 7 (13:57):
Believe me, it's gonna work out just great.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Everybody should happy nuclear codes.
Speaker 8 (14:01):
Cut them too, Cut.
Speaker 7 (14:03):
Everything, because if you don't see what they're doing and
they can't show you that they're adding value, you whack.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
All with the extreme questions from the media, Oh, you
want to cut the people with a nuclear code, It's like,
that's right where they go, instead of because anyone suggested that,
come on. But I think there's a propensity among the
media to drive people to fear like, oh my goodness,
this is going to be the end of the world.
It's the worst thing ever, when in reality, is something
that's been a long time coming, cutting the federal government
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from all of its waste and all of it's crazy programs.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
I'm Christy Burton Brown here on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
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There's some other interesting clips today. I believe Trump himself
said that he thinks DOGE has only found one percent
of waste and there's a whole lot more to go.
Speaker 6 (14:57):
How much do you believe, Elana, you've identified and waste
for all abuse corruption now, and how much do you
anticipate you will?
Speaker 9 (15:05):
Sure?
Speaker 10 (15:07):
Well, I think no, because it's so massive. It's this
is huge money, so we found. We're just talking as
hard as they are. They're not going to find some
contract that was crooked, you know, crooked as hell. And
I mean there's going to be so much isn't found,
but what is found. I think he's going to find
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a trinion dollars.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Yeah, I think so, but I think it's a.
Speaker 10 (15:31):
Very small percentage compared to what it is.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Basically, we're just getting started and you've better be buckled
in for the ride where they're going to find a
whole lot more that needs to be cut. What often
happens in politics is you make the first announcements like
we need to cut all these wasteful programs here.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
It is expose it for everyone to see.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Everyone freaks out at first, and then suddenly when people
are given more time and continuing to get information and
see where the waste is. Eventually they're like, you know what,
they get on board, Like, who wants to fund all
of these programs with their own money when many people
are struggling to put food on their own table, to
pay for gas, to get to work, to fund their
own mortgages, and so, you know, I think often there's
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an initial overreaction to oh.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
My goodness, this is changing the way we do business.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
But given some time, when they continue to push on it,
I think more American people will get on board with
it because most Americans are innovative, entrepreneurial, don't like the
government stunting our own ability to run our lives because
they're wasting so much of our money. Like, it really
shouldn't be a partisan issue. It really shouldn't be a
oh if you're a Republican and you want to cut money,
and we've seen Republican presidents who don't cut at all
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and Republican governors in other states who don't cut at
all and in fact spend even more. I'd even say
trumped at some of that in his very first term.
So I'm happy as a conservative, as a fiscal conservative,
to see him switch in this term and say, you know,
what I'm actually gonna be serious about what all Republicans
have consistently promised people but few have delivered, which is
actually cutting wasteful spending. I do think there's this clip.
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I think I can get it in before the break.
It's just funny, repted Lou from California, deflecting on questions
as they always do.
Speaker 11 (17:05):
We have confirmed some of the cuts the Dose team
has been making, and they do include things besides what
we were just discussing, like gender affirming healthcare in Guatemala,
teaching people in Kazakhstan to fight back against internet rolls,
voluntary mail circumcisions, and mozem B creating work opportunities for
young LGBTQI plus people in Serbia. Are these things that
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you think taxpayer money from the US US taxpayer money
should be spent on? And how do you think taxpayers
knew their money was going to these causes?
Speaker 6 (17:34):
So happy to have a discussion on the funding, but
he's really not US AID and what some of these
programs are going to. But what the administration cannot do
is randomly freeze the funding to all these programs that
Congress has already appropriated.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
That's so that's what he wants to focus on, is well,
he doesn't have the power to do this. And notice
that he said I'd be happy to talk about it,
but in the words deflecting, deflecting, No, I don't actually
want to talk about all these wasteful programs that calls
has approved, that Congress has allowed tax er money to
be spent on.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
And that is the real issue.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
So whenever they say a butt, you know that they're
actually refusing to discuss something that's very important.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
I'm Christy Burton Brown here on the Dan Kaplas Show.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Call in over the break eight five five four zero
five eight two five five or text five to seven
seven three nine started with Dan. When we come back,
we're going to see what Margaret Brennan did to Marco Rubio,
pushing him on free speech and the Holocaust.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast, the Dan
Caplas Show.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
I'm Christy Burton Brown in for Dan today.
Speaker 11 (18:40):
Now.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Margaret Brennan from Face the Nation has been able to
interview a number of the high up, high up people
in the Trump administration. Kind of got even more a
little famous for her interview of Jadie Vance, where Actually,
he became even more famous with his answer to her
when she was pushing back on his stance on terror
suspects in the United States. I'm going to play that
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clip just because it really is so good, you know,
And that was a very particular case. It wasn't clear
if he was radicalized when he got here or while
he was living.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
I don't really care, Margaret. I don't want that person
in my country, and I think most Americans agree with me.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
I don't really care.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
I love that this is great. Actually, I don't know
how many of you do this. I will admit I'm
guilty of it. I will look at Jady Vance's responses
on Twitter, just because he talks so differently from any
vice president I've ever seen, and different from Trump too,
Like people thought Trump was different. Trump is more I
don't know, casual, authoritative, and how he talks.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Where's I think Jade Vance.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
He's obviously very very smart, but he'll just throw in
like no dummy, telling people and he talks to them.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
And he's so good at creating memes.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
Case the debate where he did the gym from the
office side, eyed to the camera and that became a
meme and this one. I used it in my everyday
I don't really care Margaret.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Right anything, Yes, exactly, it'll be a classic, I think
for a decade. It's kind of fun for me, like
the millennial I'm just a little bit younger than him,
to see someone in my generation finally in the White
House and just to see how he was always a
generational flavor for lack of a better word, that you'll
see among the different generations when they do rise to
positions of power. I would not claim that Jade Vance
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is my favorite millennial politician.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Actually, there's some ways.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
He handles issues that I just I kind of think
you should be stronger on actually from the social conservative position,
but I think he has impressed a lot of people
with his ability to handle issues, his ability to drive
the point home when reporters think they've got him trapped
and he actually doesn't, so there's a whole or they don't.
So there's a lot of you know, politicians you should
probably take take a lesson from him and how to
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not avoid the questions that reporters are asking, actually confront
them head on, but show the bias in their question,
show what facts they get wrong. And I think That's
what I like that he does is he doesn't avoid questions.
He's like, fine, I'll answer you, and here's the problem
with what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
And he does it in a.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Very intellectual smart way, but in a way but it
still I think goes back to his roots and makes
it understandable for average people as well, which I think
is a skill to be able to do that. So
the reason I brought Margaret Brennan up is because she
recently interviewed MARKA.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Rubio. Let's listen into a bit of that.
Speaker 9 (21:14):
Well, he was standing in a country where free speech
was weaponized to kentuct a genocide, and he met with
the head of a political party that has far right
views and some historic ties to extreme groups. The context
of that was changing the tone of it. And you
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know that that the censorship.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
I disagree with you specifically about the right.
Speaker 8 (21:41):
Now I have to disagree with you now.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
She has a style where she loves to say, you know,
what I'm saying is true, Like she'll give her a
little speech on how she wants to pitch a question
and then say, and you.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Know that's right, Like Rubia's not the only one. She's
done that too.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
And she just loves I think what she sees on
their face that they don't agree with her and that
she's losing the point, and she's like, no, no, no, you
have to agree.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
You know I'm right, and you're actually not right.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
And she's of course trying to make the claim that
the position that a lot of conservatives have on free
speech is dangerous because the Holocaust was caused by free
speech being weaponized in Germany by Adolf Hitler and the
Nazi Party. I don't even know what kind of connection
she's trying to draw there. I think she's way out
in left field. Hitler's problem was not free speech. His
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problem was oppression and corruption and a genocide, and it
is not caused because of free speech. In fact, Germany
cracked down on free speech. So I don't even know
what in the world she's trying to do. Like a
government saying, well, I can have free speech, but you can't.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
It's not actual free speech.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
And that's what the Nazis did, was say, we get
to say whatever we want and you don't get to
So in many times, many times, you know you're losing
when you have to like run to the Nazi examples.
This is something I talked a little bit about. I
helped coach debate with some high school students and junior
high students, and we kind of always teach him, don't
always run to the exacsample of Nazi Germany, like you
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better have a better example to prove your point than that,
because that's all you've got. You may not have a lot,
because this is one of the ultimate examples of evil
in all history of the world.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
And if you have to run there, find a.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Better illustration, because you probably could could talk about the
relation of any single thing you disagree with to the Nazis,
because they did so many wrong things. So anyway, I
just think it's odd that that's where she goes. But
let's listen to Rubio's response. I think he was an
absolutely excellent choice for Secretary of State. He knows how
to be diplomatic. I actually got to meet him. I
(23:34):
will admit that some politicians I have met have disappointed
me when I met them. Maybe I had some image
of them in my mind and you meet them and
you're like, oh, you're not like that image at all.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Maybe that's not fair to say, but Rubio is one
of those.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
When I met him, like he is actually a genuine
person who loves his family, who I think is doing
what he does for the right reasons.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
And I think that comes across in a lot of
his speeches.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
He messes up sometimes, like the infamous water example, but
I think it's because he's a genuine person actually doing
things because he believes.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
In them, not just to get power and authority. So
I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
I'm not saying I have the perfect sense in reading everyone,
but it was really great to meet him and see
that he actually was what he seems to be.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
So let's listen to his response.
Speaker 8 (24:18):
Free speech was not used to conduct a genocide. The
genocide was conducted by an authoritarian Nazi regime that happened
to also be genocidal because they hated Jews, and they
hated minorities, and they hated those that they had a
list of people they hated, but primarily the Jews. There
was no free speech in Nazi Germany. There was none.
There was also no opposition in Nazi Germany. They were
a sole and only party that governed that country. So
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that's not an accurate reflection of history.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
There you go. He gave her a history lesson which
Apparently you would think that after all these years, Americans
actually understand what caused the Holocaust and what it was.
But I have heard that a lot of public schools
don't teach that anymore. So maybe Margaret Brennan went to
one that failed to teach her the actual.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Cause of the Holocaust.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
So blaming it on free speech is one of the
weirdest claims I've ever heard about the cause of the
Holocaust when instead the Secretary of State Marco Rubio had
it right when he said, it's an authoritarian government that
has no pushback. So even for all the people that
try to say, oh, Trump is being authoritarian, there's an
entire political party that can push back on him anytime
they want.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Not just that.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
But with Margaret Brennan, the more I listen to this,
hear it, break it down, think about it, Christy, the
worse it gets. Because if you have any working knowledge,
a morsel of history, and I'm a World War two boff,
I go back, I watch all the documentaries.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
But yeah, even if you just have a cursory.
Speaker 5 (25:29):
Now you know that Joseph Gerbels was the director of
propaganda from the government of Misshaping and redirecting narratives and truth.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
As they saw it, This.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
Was a narrowing of speech that a broadening of free speech.
Ask any Jewish Holocaust survivor or descendants thereof if they
had free speech to speak out against Hitler Gebels, they're
all gearing.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
All of it.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
No, they didn't, and they were putting ghettos, They had
their belongings taken from them, they were shipped to cut
centration camps, and they were exterminated in mass numbers. I'm
failing to see anywhere in that equation where there was
free speech or too much of it for Jewish people
in Germany.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Oh right, or for anyone who wanted to be on
their side. I mean, all the tribunals that the Nazis
had were judges with no juries, by the way, would
decide that people who spoke out and use their free
speech to oppose the Nazis would be executed. I used
to love to read books actually about people who that
happened to young people, high school students, college students like
Sophie and Han Schol for example, who were executed because
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they chose to exercise free speech distributing pamphlets on college
campuses so I do not know what version of history Margaret.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Brennan read, or studied or ever heard of in her life.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
But thankfully the US Secretary of State Marco Rubio was
able to push back and actually give a history lesson
on Face the Nation, which probably will help a whole
lot more young Americans who are not taught real history
about the Holocaust in some schools. So we'll see who
Margaret Brennan on Face the Nation interviews next in the
Trump administration. But so far Jadie Vance has been able to,
(27:04):
you know, shut her down. Marco Rubo has been able
to shut her down, And we will see who's next.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
At what point the CBS just cut its losses. But
we are just absolutely losing any credibility here with her
as the host. I mean, this is a far cry
from the days of Bob Sheefer, you know, and the
establishment kind of journalism. And you can say what you
want about him, but how many more of these do
they have to witness and go, yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
You can't. We can't continue with her as the host
of this thing.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
I mean, I hope not too many. Moore.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
I'm failing to see how anybody could be more ignorant
of history toos in their analysis. I mean, this is
really like rudimentary level stuff and.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
She was horrible well, and go to extremes like she
did with Jadie Vance, tell them they agree with her
and know she's right.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
I like, come on, it just doesn't sell. I don't
get it.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
It just makes her interviewees look smart and put together.
And I'm not sure that the image they're trying to give,
but that's the image they're giving. I'm Christy Brittan Brown.
You're here on the Dan Kaplis Show, Calling or the
Break eight five five four zero five eight two five five.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
And now back to the dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
If you're back on the Dankapla Show, I'm Christy Burton Brown.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
One issue that people have been talking about with the
cuts that Dog is suggesting is whether or not Social Security, Medicare,
Medicaid will be touched. It's a big issue in many
in many ways for older voters in particular who works
their entire life to get Social Security benefits and people
who need Medicare and Medicaid like these are real issues.
So we know why the liberals are attacking that and
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honestly inventing stories about it is because they think this
is how they can get some people on their side
slam down any potential cuts. They're just think you give
every single argument I can possibly get. I don't think
a lot of them are resonating.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
But this is one that could.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
However, in a recent interview, President Trump himself addressed it
and said that these three programs wouldn't be touched with
one exception.
Speaker 10 (29:00):
Social Security won't be touched other than have been brought
or something.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
We're going to find.
Speaker 10 (29:05):
It's going to be strengthened, but won't be touched. Medicare, Medicaid,
None of that stuff is going to be touched.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
Nothing.
Speaker 10 (29:11):
I want you to have to now, if there are
illegal migrants of the system, we're going to get them
out of the system and all of that fraud, but it's.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Not going to be touching. I think he makes a
really important point that in any system that you want
to keep in the government, any system that people actually
do rely on legitimately, you have to look for ways
it is used fraudulently. We saw this in a lot
of the funding that came to states during COVID. A
lot of unemployment benefits that are given to people. There
are so many ways that people gain the system to
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use that in fraudulent ways. A lot of states discovered
that they had paid out a lot of funds that
went overseas in fact, and that didn't even go to
American citizens. And I think when you grow anything to
the size where the federal government is, with so much bureaucracy,
so many layers, so many employees who don't really have
a job to do but are hired to sit there
at home in medicate and supposedly do it anyway, you
(30:02):
are going to have fraud that is missed because you're
not a tightly run, well equipped agency or this big,
large behemoth, than fraud just gets through and escapes. I
mean we see this time and time again with the
federal government and state governments too, who got caught up
in the you know, spending fund or giving funds overseas
to people who if there have been any investigation whatsoever,
(30:22):
we're clearly not American citizens, but oh they're the taxpayer
money went anyway. So I think that's a good point
by Trump that he needs to keep emphasizing every time
there's criticisms of cuts that Dough just suggesting is we
are trying to root out fraud and waste in government spending.
It's one thing to cut taxes, which I very much
believe in. It's another thing to cut regulations, which also
(30:44):
needs to be done. But in addition to doing those things,
there's this whole other area of cutting fraud and waste,
which is a misuse of taxpayer funds. And it doesn't
necessarily equate to a tax cut, but it can equal
government either paying off its debts and that's a better
use of the money being spent, or it could actually
be spent in an actual duty of government, like you know,
(31:06):
paying people who have paid into Social Security. What they're
doing is a real thing the government should actually be doing.
I think it's right that Trump is assuring people that
all the things they're hearing about that getting cut just
really isn't true. Actually had an interesting conversation. I'm on
the State Board of Education now or presenting CD four.
When I was at the meeting in February, I've now
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had two official meetings, one of my fellow board members
came up to me to talk.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Afterwards.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
We had recognized a lot of teachers who had gotten awards,
some nationally recognized teachers. A lot of them had done
a really good job in Colorado schools, really being involved
with students, doing unique things to help them learn, gotten
really good results in their class. Well, these students are
supposed to be given a certain amount of money to
go to DC, and I think some of them get
awards and there's just a program.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
In DC for them.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
And so she was saying to me, She's like, well,
all the things where Trump is supposedly going to cut
the Department of Education, like people are just to pray
that these great teachers aren't going to get the money
they were promised to go to DC. And I told her,
I was like, Okay, there's a huge difference between what's
actually happening and actually being cut and the rhetoric surrounding it,
where the media and liberals in particular are trying to
(32:16):
scare everyone and say all this money that you care about,
all these things you've been promised, you're just gonna wake
up tomorrow and you're not getting all the things that
you paid into. You're not getting all the things that
you were promised. And I told her, I'm like, this
is part of the problem right now, is there's a
lot of rhetoric being created trying to scare people. What
I didn't say is you yourself are scaring people and adding
to this, stop doing it. You're an elected official. Talk
(32:38):
about facts, not rhetoric. I skipped to that part, but
the point remains that that is what's going on, and
I think that's not fair to the American people. It's like,
let's actually discuss as American people, if we believe these
things are fraud, if we believe they're waste, and if
they should be cut. Let's not claim that people are
losing what would be legitimate payments that they are owed
(32:59):
or been promised. No one is actually discussing that other
than people who are inventing stories. So I think that's
an important point. Another thing, Caroline love It. I think
that's how you say her name. My daughter's debate coach.
I'm one of her coaches. But there's another debate coach.
He said that he told my daughter that she reminds
him of Caroline Caroline love It.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
So I was like, oh, right, that's actually a big compliment.
You should you should like that.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
But she spoke about DOGE recently and explained what kind
of authority it has.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
I think this is really important for people to.
Speaker 12 (33:28):
Know DOGE does not have statutory authority. We've been very
clear about that. Again, DOGE is advising these agencies. It's
ultimately up to the discretion of these secretaries to make
these hirings and these firings, and again everybody is working
as one team. You've seen some of the secretaries speak
out about the cuts that they have made and the
way that they are saving American tax payers dollars. Secretary
(33:51):
Rubio talking about the USAID cuts as just one example.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
I think there's another area where people are out there
trying to scare people. Me the go dough just taking
government authority it doesn't have. Elon Musk is running the
government and saying no, like it's actually very clear that
what they are doing is taking no struxtory authority whatsoever
because they don't have it. You can't just grant someone's
statutory authority. A president actually can't do that. He hasn't done,
and he hasn't attempted to do it. Instead, they are
(34:15):
doing the investigation that many of these agencies are not
equipped to do themselves, and they're handing them sort of
on a silver platter and saying, look, here's all the
waste and fraud in your agency?
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Would you like to cut some of this? What do
you think the American people want you to do?
Speaker 2 (34:29):
And so I do think it's more of a cohesive
team that it's coming together under the Trump administration. I mean,
have they even had a month. I don't think they have.
I think it's not even quite been a month in office,
and they're already investigating things for agencies, doing a lot
of the underground work for them to say, if we
want to clean this up, if we want to reform
it and actually serve the American people, here are the
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ways you can.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
You can reform your agency.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
And then some agencies I think that refuse to reform
and can't be reformed. Maybe she's just existed anymore. There's
there's something that also should happen. U's cut some federal agencies.
I'm Christy Burton Brown. You're on the Dan Kapla Show.
When we come back, we have plenty more to talk about.
Trey Goudie talking also about the fourth branch of governments
in an interesting way, something that should also we should
(35:14):
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
Welcome to Dan Taplas Show. I'm Christy Burton Brown in
for Dan today. Get to be with you all.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
And you know, I think there never is.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
An end it seems to how many executive orders President
Trump wants to do. One thing I find particularly interesting
about it is many times conservatives, when they get elected,
believe so much in the system and how we do
things that they don't actually use the four years they
have in their term to get things done. I think
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this is what distinguishes Trump from so many Republican predecessors
as president.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
And even in many ways from his own.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
First term, is he's decided that he's going to use
these last four years he has as president to actually
get things done. I mean, Biden did in innumerable amount
of executive orders on everything under the sun that he.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Wanted to do. And while I believe there's a mix
in how much as.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
A conservative we should believe in the in the system
and operate within it and get things done the right way,
even if the process takes a little bit longer. I
think there's a lot of value to that in some ways.
But on the flip side, I think when we become
the only people committed to process, committed to a system
and doing things the long, slow, drawn out way for
(01:29):
one thing, sometimes that's just how we have been interpreting
the system, and it's actually not even the only powers
you have. But I think we run then the error
of we get delayed and so many things we try
to do when we have our four years in power,
and the other side just cranks it out one after
the other after the other and changes government in monumental ways.
And then when we get in we kind of like
(01:50):
slow down what they've done, but don't advance our causes.
And we know that the president actually does have executive authority,
and it's not just to stand on a soapbox and
make speeches. It actually is to make executive orders. Now,
as an attorney myself, I believe in checks and balances
into three branches of government, and there absolutely are some
(02:14):
things that Congress has the ability to do. Congress has
the purse strings there are appropriations that Congress makes, there's
budget approvals that Congress does, so that one person, as
in the president, isn't solely making all budgetary decisions for
the entire country.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
I think it's a great check in balance.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
We look at the judicial branch and we see that
courts can rein in an executive agency or the president,
or you know, really any part of any branch of
government that's making missteps and taking too much power. So
because I think it's because I believe so much in
the checks and balances in.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
The American system of government and in.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
The three branches, that I think conservatives should feel a
little more free when they are the ones in power
and they are the ones elected to go out and
do things like the system controls itself.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
The checks and balances we've.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Put into our family put in place have worked for
you know, almost two hundred and fifty years, and I
think we can trust in that system to keep us
in line and don't need to be so hesitant to
get things done. So all that to say, that's why
i'm personally, while I don't agree with every single one
of his executive orders, I am very excited to see
a new approach by President Trump to say, you know what,
I'm moving from day one, from the ground up, and
(03:22):
we're going to build things in the ways that voters
elected him to do. I think that's very, very encouraging.
If you have thoughts about this or anything else we
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Speaker 3 (03:41):
Today.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
One executive order that I think came down today, maybe
it was yesterday. Trump wants to expand funding and coverage
for IBF. I think there's one perspective I saw on
this on Twitter, and yes I do go on Twitter
sometimes to get political news and opinion. I think one
one feedback I saw that I thought it was pretty
interesting is people said, Hey, there's some pro lifers out
(04:03):
there criticizing him for doing this because a lot of
babies are discarded through the IVF process. But they said,
I think what his actual goal in this is is
to promote the birth of more children, more life in
the United States, and that is a good goal. I
think what he misses and his administration misses is that
there are a lot of tighter actually regulations around IVF
(04:24):
in Europe even than there are in the United States,
because in the US there are very few regulations as
to how many embryos a doctor can create at one time,
and so you do have clinics creating fifteen twenty embryos,
and no person out there is going to have twenty kids,
and then many of them do get discarded. They get tested,
if they're not exactly perfect, they get thrown away. I
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think if you're a pro life person, you're not going
to agree with that kind of a process. But I
think some pro lifers on Twitter are taking it way
too far by saying everything about IVF is in moral
There's no way a pro life conservative president should be
doing this. I think it should be more balanced. I
do actually think that it would be good for insurance
companies to fund the efforts of families who are trying
(05:05):
to have children.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
We need more children in the United States.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
But I think a priority should be put to actually
put ethical regulations on IVF, because right now there are
not a good number of ethical regulations on how doctors
do it to not intentionally discard new lives that are
created and to create so many that you know, one
couple is never going to actually give life to that
many children. So anyway, there's there's my thoughts on one
(05:31):
of his executive orders from today that's getting a whole
lot of attention. Again, you can call it any time
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We do know, of course, that Doge is always in
the news with some new cut that should be made,
some new expose on how the federal government is spending
too much taxpayer money on frivolous ventures or ideological pursuits
(05:55):
by the former administration. What I have found particularly interesting
about all the things that Joje has been exposing is
that this.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Wasn't something that other presidents couldn't have done.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
It actually shows how much could have happened if people
zeroed in, nailed down from day one and said we
always talk as conservatives that one of our main goals
is to save taxpayer's money, to cut wasteful government spending.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
But when we get into the position often.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Well we see the point of using money on our
own goals, and well it's kind of hard to cut.
And what I love that Doge is doing is they
don't get to make the law. They don't get to
actually make the cuts, don't have that power or authority,
but they get to expose what's actually going on. And
I think that exposing of all the waste, the fraud,
(06:45):
the corruption, and what our taxpayer dollars are going to
is very enlightening to the American people at large and
is going to give conservatives the ability to really go
out and tackle a lot of these things. Some of
it's going to have to be done through Congress, which
makes appropriations rolls of purse strings, but it's going to
give us, in some ways the information we always needed
(07:06):
to maybe back up and have evidence for the things
that I think a lot of conservatives has always suspected.
I think Rand Paul used to publish this list he
prize still does it of all the wasteful things in
the federal budget and all the crazy studies that were
funded in the United States, all the like pork barrel
things that different senators and representatives wanted for their districts
in order to vote for the bill, which is its
(07:27):
own big mess.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
But I think Dough has gone even beyond.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
That, and USAID or USA however you call it, just oh,
the crazy amounts of waste there. And again, I think
there's a balanced position to take USAID funds some important
almost like soft power things in the world and gives
the US the ability to do diplomacy, to make negotiations,
(07:51):
to in some ways control what other countries do. But
hiding behind that purpose has been all of these ideological
fundings of absolutely corrupt, crazy programs, some of which we'll
talk about later in the show today. And so I
think too many people elected politicians in particular are latching
on to the original goal of USAID and saying, well,
(08:13):
it's important that the US not lose its soft power
in the world. It is diplomatic ability to pressure other
countries through funding to get things done. Okay, we can
believe in the original purpose of a lot of federal
agencies or international programs or national things that the US
government does.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
But if you don't believe that it has been misused.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Over the years and morphed into something that was never
designed to be, then you're not awake and you're not
paying attention. And so I think that's the benefit of
what Doge and Elon Musk and President Trump and his
entire administration are doing right now is saying you know what,
We're not just going to say that we need to cut,
that we need to save taxpayers money, that we need
to expose waste and corruption.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
We're actually going to show you in the.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
News, day after day after day all the ways that
you're money is being misused and abused and misspent by
the federal government. And then hey, if you guys want
this all to you know, we want us to get
rid of it, put pressure on your congressman to get
it done. I think we'll see President Trump continue to
get rid of a lot of the waste we'll spending
through executive orders. I think some of that will be successful,
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but some of it is going to be pushed back
to Congress. And so I think people, if you care
about this, if you're hearing the expose is on the
waste and corruption, you need to contact your congressman and
whoever else at the federal level and say that they
need to make these cuts.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
I'm Christy Burton Brown here on the Dan Kaplis Show.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
You can call in over the break eight five five
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into more detail on what exactly Doge has exposed when
we come back.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
And now back to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast, So
great fan Ryan.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
As always, it rides me of my weekend.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
I was actually down in Calder Springs at Colorado College
at a debates tournament where junior high and high school
students have multiple forms of debate. One form they do
is parliamentary debates, and so they get a resolution on
the spot. They get twenty minutes to prepare a case,
and the debate it for I don't know, forty five minutes,
and so one pretends to be the government and one
pretends to be the leader of the opposition, kind of
(10:15):
like the British system. And so in the semi final round,
the resolution actually had to do with Citizens United, and
it was whether or not the Supreme Court should overturn.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
The Citizens United decision, which, if you're.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
All involved in campaigns and campaign finance law, you're aware
of that decision. But one of the teams totally focused
on the idea that Citizens United only allowed billionaires to
spend their money in elections. So, you know, I think
that's a misrepresentation of the case, and the team that
made that pitch did not prevail, probably in part because
they didn't really understand the decision a little hard to
(10:45):
do in a twenty minute research period, but I probably
a good lesson for that team to not necessarily go
to the common arguments for how a case is pitched,
but actually dive deep and see what really happened.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
It only benefits the billionaires.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Bernie Sanders jumping in a moment here.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
You got to wonder, too, Christy, what you just described,
how much of that is a product of indoctrination of
just that's what they've.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Been taught, that's all they know, and that's where their
head goes.
Speaker 6 (11:12):
Well.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
And two, I think this is what I actually helped
coach some of the teams, in partly not the ones
who were in that round.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
But what I try and tell them to do is
is it matters.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
How you research, because I think no matter how you
may or may not be taught in your home or
in your gree club or wherever you go to learn
things at school. Also, depending on how you research on Google,
you can get a whole lot of biased information that
does try to indoctrinate you if you don't know how
to sort between that and say, you know what these
sources are on this side, So I have to take
(11:43):
what they say, with a grain of salt, still understand
the side, but not just one hundred percent believe it.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
These sources are on this side.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
These are more in the middle and kind of I
think knowing how to do your research will enable you
to get actually quality information instead of one side, you know,
potentially trying to convince you that their way of seeing it,
honest specific Supreme Court case or whatever else is the
only facts involved idea. I just think for life, that's
one thing I want to teach you the kids I
(12:09):
help coach. But speaking of money, we were talking about
Doge in the last section, and I find it interesting
that Ran, I think I'm right on this that we
have a number of clips from Kevin O'Leary from the
Shark Tank.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Well we do, okay, Well up there, that's perfect. My
son loves Shark Tank.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
He is my like really inventive kid who loves to
come up with ideas. And I think he might want
to have his own business one day. We'll see, you know,
he's eleven right now, so we'll see what he actually
ends up doing. But he loves Shark Tank. And I
find it interesting when you have real business people speak
into politics, because sometimes they can cut through the nonsense
and say, you know what, here's what we're actually doing.
Political sides aside, political speak a side, let's look at
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what's actually getting done. So I do find some of
his advice for Doge a kind of interesting. I'll play
you this clip right now.
Speaker 7 (12:55):
I think the issue is they're not whacking enough. There's
this concept in private equity when you get a bankrupt
company and you go in there, you cut twenty percent
more than your initial read and then you find like
a pool of mercury, the organization jels back together again.
Always cut deeper, harder when there's fat and.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Waste, which is very good advice.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
There's a lot of people out there drying in the
media more, you know, from the other party, liberals saying
that Dough is cutting too deep and going after programs
like USAID that like the America needs for its standing
in the world, and you have a real business ferus
in here saying you know what, Actually, no, they need
to suggest even deeper cuts because if you want to
solve the systemic issues, you actually want to rid government
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of as much corruption as possible, you need to go
deeper than you even think you need to go. And
so I find that to be very interesting advice. He
also talks about a few other things. I think his
recommendation is actually to cut everything. But let's listen in.
Speaker 7 (13:53):
Cut cut, cut, cut, cut.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
More more cutting.
Speaker 7 (13:57):
Believe me, it's gonna work out just great.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Everybody should happy nuclear codes.
Speaker 8 (14:01):
Cut them too, Cut.
Speaker 7 (14:03):
Everything, because if you don't see what they're doing and
they can't show you that they're adding value, you whack.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
All with the extreme questions from the media, Oh, you
want to cut the people with a nuclear code, It's like,
that's right where they go, instead of because anyone suggested that,
come on. But I think there's a propensity among the
media to drive people to fear like, oh my goodness,
this is going to be the end of the world.
It's the worst thing ever, when in reality, is something
that's been a long time coming, cutting the federal government
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from all of its waste and all of it's crazy programs.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
I'm Christy Burton Brown here on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
If you want to call in anytime, you are welcome
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Text your thoughts to Dan at five seven seven three nine.
There's some other interesting clips today. I believe Trump himself
said that he thinks DOGE has only found one percent
of waste and there's a whole lot more to go.
Speaker 6 (14:57):
How much do you believe, Elana, you've identified and waste
for all abuse corruption now, and how much do you
anticipate you will?
Speaker 9 (15:05):
Sure?
Speaker 10 (15:07):
Well, I think no, because it's so massive. It's this
is huge money, so we found. We're just talking as
hard as they are. They're not going to find some
contract that was crooked, you know, crooked as hell. And
I mean there's going to be so much isn't found,
but what is found. I think he's going to find
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a trinion dollars.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Yeah, I think so, but I think it's a.
Speaker 10 (15:31):
Very small percentage compared to what it is.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Basically, we're just getting started and you've better be buckled
in for the ride where they're going to find a
whole lot more that needs to be cut. What often
happens in politics is you make the first announcements like
we need to cut all these wasteful programs here.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
It is expose it for everyone to see.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Everyone freaks out at first, and then suddenly when people
are given more time and continuing to get information and
see where the waste is. Eventually they're like, you know what,
they get on board, Like, who wants to fund all
of these programs with their own money when many people
are struggling to put food on their own table, to
pay for gas, to get to work, to fund their
own mortgages, and so, you know, I think often there's
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an initial overreaction to oh.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
My goodness, this is changing the way we do business.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
But given some time, when they continue to push on it,
I think more American people will get on board with
it because most Americans are innovative, entrepreneurial, don't like the
government stunting our own ability to run our lives because
they're wasting so much of our money. Like, it really
shouldn't be a partisan issue. It really shouldn't be a
oh if you're a Republican and you want to cut money,
and we've seen Republican presidents who don't cut at all
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and Republican governors in other states who don't cut at
all and in fact spend even more. I'd even say
trumped at some of that in his very first term.
So I'm happy as a conservative, as a fiscal conservative,
to see him switch in this term and say, you know,
what I'm actually gonna be serious about what all Republicans
have consistently promised people but few have delivered, which is
actually cutting wasteful spending. I do think there's this clip.
(16:57):
I think I can get it in before the break.
It's just funny, repted Lou from California, deflecting on questions
as they always do.
Speaker 11 (17:05):
We have confirmed some of the cuts the Dose team
has been making, and they do include things besides what
we were just discussing, like gender affirming healthcare in Guatemala,
teaching people in Kazakhstan to fight back against internet rolls,
voluntary mail circumcisions, and mozem B creating work opportunities for
young LGBTQI plus people in Serbia. Are these things that
(17:25):
you think taxpayer money from the US US taxpayer money
should be spent on? And how do you think taxpayers
knew their money was going to these causes?
Speaker 6 (17:34):
So happy to have a discussion on the funding, but
he's really not US AID and what some of these
programs are going to. But what the administration cannot do
is randomly freeze the funding to all these programs that
Congress has already appropriated.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
That's so that's what he wants to focus on, is well,
he doesn't have the power to do this. And notice
that he said I'd be happy to talk about it,
but in the words deflecting, deflecting, No, I don't actually
want to talk about all these wasteful programs that calls
has approved, that Congress has allowed tax er money to
be spent on.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
And that is the real issue.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
So whenever they say a butt, you know that they're
actually refusing to discuss something that's very important.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
I'm Christy Burton Brown here on the Dan Kaplas Show.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Call in over the break eight five five four zero
five eight two five five or text five to seven
seven three nine started with Dan. When we come back,
we're going to see what Margaret Brennan did to Marco Rubio,
pushing him on free speech and the Holocaust.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast, the Dan
Caplas Show.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
I'm Christy Burton Brown in for Dan today.
Speaker 11 (18:40):
Now.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Margaret Brennan from Face the Nation has been able to
interview a number of the high up, high up people
in the Trump administration. Kind of got even more a
little famous for her interview of Jadie Vance, where Actually,
he became even more famous with his answer to her
when she was pushing back on his stance on terror
suspects in the United States. I'm going to play that
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clip just because it really is so good, you know,
And that was a very particular case. It wasn't clear
if he was radicalized when he got here or while
he was living.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
I don't really care, Margaret. I don't want that person
in my country, and I think most Americans agree with me.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
I don't really care.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
I love that this is great. Actually, I don't know
how many of you do this. I will admit I'm
guilty of it. I will look at Jady Vance's responses
on Twitter, just because he talks so differently from any
vice president I've ever seen, and different from Trump too,
Like people thought Trump was different. Trump is more I
don't know, casual, authoritative, and how he talks.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Where's I think Jade Vance.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
He's obviously very very smart, but he'll just throw in
like no dummy, telling people and he talks to them.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
And he's so good at creating memes.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
Case the debate where he did the gym from the
office side, eyed to the camera and that became a
meme and this one. I used it in my everyday
I don't really care Margaret.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Right anything, Yes, exactly, it'll be a classic, I think
for a decade. It's kind of fun for me, like
the millennial I'm just a little bit younger than him,
to see someone in my generation finally in the White
House and just to see how he was always a
generational flavor for lack of a better word, that you'll
see among the different generations when they do rise to
positions of power. I would not claim that Jade Vance
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is my favorite millennial politician.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Actually, there's some ways.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
He handles issues that I just I kind of think
you should be stronger on actually from the social conservative position,
but I think he has impressed a lot of people
with his ability to handle issues, his ability to drive
the point home when reporters think they've got him trapped
and he actually doesn't, so there's a whole or they don't.
So there's a lot of you know, politicians you should
probably take take a lesson from him and how to
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not avoid the questions that reporters are asking, actually confront
them head on, but show the bias in their question,
show what facts they get wrong. And I think That's
what I like that he does is he doesn't avoid questions.
He's like, fine, I'll answer you, and here's the problem
with what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
And he does it in a.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Very intellectual smart way, but in a way but it
still I think goes back to his roots and makes
it understandable for average people as well, which I think
is a skill to be able to do that. So
the reason I brought Margaret Brennan up is because she
recently interviewed MARKA.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
Rubio. Let's listen into a bit of that.
Speaker 9 (21:14):
Well, he was standing in a country where free speech
was weaponized to kentuct a genocide, and he met with
the head of a political party that has far right
views and some historic ties to extreme groups. The context
of that was changing the tone of it. And you
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know that that the censorship.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
I disagree with you specifically about the right.
Speaker 8 (21:41):
Now I have to disagree with you now.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
She has a style where she loves to say, you know,
what I'm saying is true, Like she'll give her a
little speech on how she wants to pitch a question
and then say, and you.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Know that's right, Like Rubia's not the only one. She's
done that too.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
And she just loves I think what she sees on
their face that they don't agree with her and that
she's losing the point, and she's like, no, no, no, you
have to agree.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
You know I'm right, and you're actually not right.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
And she's of course trying to make the claim that
the position that a lot of conservatives have on free
speech is dangerous because the Holocaust was caused by free
speech being weaponized in Germany by Adolf Hitler and the
Nazi Party. I don't even know what kind of connection
she's trying to draw there. I think she's way out
in left field. Hitler's problem was not free speech. His
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problem was oppression and corruption and a genocide, and it
is not caused because of free speech. In fact, Germany
cracked down on free speech. So I don't even know
what in the world she's trying to do. Like a
government saying, well, I can have free speech, but you can't.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
It's not actual free speech.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
And that's what the Nazis did, was say, we get
to say whatever we want and you don't get to
So in many times, many times, you know you're losing
when you have to like run to the Nazi examples.
This is something I talked a little bit about. I
helped coach debate with some high school students and junior
high students, and we kind of always teach him, don't
always run to the exacsample of Nazi Germany, like you
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better have a better example to prove your point than that,
because that's all you've got. You may not have a lot,
because this is one of the ultimate examples of evil
in all history of the world.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
And if you have to run there, find a.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Better illustration, because you probably could could talk about the
relation of any single thing you disagree with to the Nazis,
because they did so many wrong things. So anyway, I
just think it's odd that that's where she goes. But
let's listen to Rubio's response. I think he was an
absolutely excellent choice for Secretary of State. He knows how
to be diplomatic. I actually got to meet him. I
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will admit that some politicians I have met have disappointed
me when I met them. Maybe I had some image
of them in my mind and you meet them and
you're like, oh, you're not like that image at all.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Maybe that's not fair to say, but Rubio is one
of those.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
When I met him, like he is actually a genuine
person who loves his family, who I think is doing
what he does for the right reasons.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
And I think that comes across in a lot of
his speeches.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
He messes up sometimes, like the infamous water example, but
I think it's because he's a genuine person actually doing
things because he believes.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
In them, not just to get power and authority. So
I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
I'm not saying I have the perfect sense in reading everyone,
but it was really great to meet him and see
that he actually was what he seems to be.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
So let's listen to his response.
Speaker 8 (24:18):
Free speech was not used to conduct a genocide. The
genocide was conducted by an authoritarian Nazi regime that happened
to also be genocidal because they hated Jews, and they
hated minorities, and they hated those that they had a
list of people they hated, but primarily the Jews. There
was no free speech in Nazi Germany. There was none.
There was also no opposition in Nazi Germany. They were
a sole and only party that governed that country. So
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that's not an accurate reflection of history.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
There you go. He gave her a history lesson which
Apparently you would think that after all these years, Americans
actually understand what caused the Holocaust and what it was.
But I have heard that a lot of public schools
don't teach that anymore. So maybe Margaret Brennan went to
one that failed to teach her the actual.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Cause of the Holocaust.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
So blaming it on free speech is one of the
weirdest claims I've ever heard about the cause of the
Holocaust when instead the Secretary of State Marco Rubio had
it right when he said, it's an authoritarian government that
has no pushback. So even for all the people that
try to say, oh, Trump is being authoritarian, there's an
entire political party that can push back on him anytime
they want.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Not just that.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
But with Margaret Brennan, the more I listen to this,
hear it, break it down, think about it, Christy, the
worse it gets. Because if you have any working knowledge,
a morsel of history, and I'm a World War two boff,
I go back, I watch all the documentaries.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
But yeah, even if you just have a cursory.
Speaker 5 (25:29):
Now you know that Joseph Gerbels was the director of
propaganda from the government of Misshaping and redirecting narratives and truth.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
As they saw it, This.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
Was a narrowing of speech that a broadening of free speech.
Ask any Jewish Holocaust survivor or descendants thereof if they
had free speech to speak out against Hitler Gebels, they're
all gearing.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
All of it.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
No, they didn't, and they were putting ghettos, They had
their belongings taken from them, they were shipped to cut
centration camps, and they were exterminated in mass numbers. I'm
failing to see anywhere in that equation where there was
free speech or too much of it for Jewish people
in Germany.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Oh right, or for anyone who wanted to be on
their side. I mean, all the tribunals that the Nazis
had were judges with no juries, by the way, would
decide that people who spoke out and use their free
speech to oppose the Nazis would be executed. I used
to love to read books actually about people who that
happened to young people, high school students, college students like
Sophie and Han Schol for example, who were executed because
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they chose to exercise free speech distributing pamphlets on college
campuses so I do not know what version of history Margaret.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Brennan read, or studied or ever heard of in her life.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
But thankfully the US Secretary of State Marco Rubio was
able to push back and actually give a history lesson
on Face the Nation, which probably will help a whole
lot more young Americans who are not taught real history
about the Holocaust in some schools. So we'll see who
Margaret Brennan on Face the Nation interviews next in the
Trump administration. But so far Jadie Vance has been able to,
(27:04):
you know, shut her down. Marco Rubo has been able
to shut her down, And we will see who's next.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
At what point the CBS just cut its losses. But
we are just absolutely losing any credibility here with her
as the host. I mean, this is a far cry
from the days of Bob Sheefer, you know, and the
establishment kind of journalism. And you can say what you
want about him, but how many more of these do
they have to witness and go, yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
You can't. We can't continue with her as the host
of this thing.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
I mean, I hope not too many. Moore.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
I'm failing to see how anybody could be more ignorant
of history toos in their analysis. I mean, this is
really like rudimentary level stuff and.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
She was horrible well, and go to extremes like she
did with Jadie Vance, tell them they agree with her
and know she's right.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
I like, come on, it just doesn't sell. I don't
get it.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
It just makes her interviewees look smart and put together.
And I'm not sure that the image they're trying to give,
but that's the image they're giving. I'm Christy Brittan Brown.
You're here on the Dan Kaplis Show, Calling or the
Break eight five five four zero five eight two five five.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
And now back to the dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
If you're back on the Dankapla Show, I'm Christy Burton Brown.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
One issue that people have been talking about with the
cuts that Dog is suggesting is whether or not Social Security, Medicare,
Medicaid will be touched. It's a big issue in many
in many ways for older voters in particular who works
their entire life to get Social Security benefits and people
who need Medicare and Medicaid like these are real issues.
So we know why the liberals are attacking that and
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honestly inventing stories about it is because they think this
is how they can get some people on their side
slam down any potential cuts. They're just think you give
every single argument I can possibly get. I don't think
a lot of them are resonating.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
But this is one that could.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
However, in a recent interview, President Trump himself addressed it
and said that these three programs wouldn't be touched with
one exception.
Speaker 10 (29:00):
Social Security won't be touched other than have been brought
or something.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
We're going to find.
Speaker 10 (29:05):
It's going to be strengthened, but won't be touched. Medicare, Medicaid,
None of that stuff is going to be touched.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
Nothing.
Speaker 10 (29:11):
I want you to have to now, if there are
illegal migrants of the system, we're going to get them
out of the system and all of that fraud, but it's.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Not going to be touching. I think he makes a
really important point that in any system that you want
to keep in the government, any system that people actually
do rely on legitimately, you have to look for ways
it is used fraudulently. We saw this in a lot
of the funding that came to states during COVID. A
lot of unemployment benefits that are given to people. There
are so many ways that people gain the system to
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use that in fraudulent ways. A lot of states discovered
that they had paid out a lot of funds that
went overseas in fact, and that didn't even go to
American citizens. And I think when you grow anything to
the size where the federal government is, with so much bureaucracy,
so many layers, so many employees who don't really have
a job to do but are hired to sit there
at home in medicate and supposedly do it anyway, you
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are going to have fraud that is missed because you're
not a tightly run, well equipped agency or this big,
large behemoth, than fraud just gets through and escapes. I
mean we see this time and time again with the
federal government and state governments too, who got caught up
in the you know, spending fund or giving funds overseas
to people who if there have been any investigation whatsoever,
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we're clearly not American citizens, but oh they're the taxpayer
money went anyway. So I think that's a good point
by Trump that he needs to keep emphasizing every time
there's criticisms of cuts that Dough just suggesting is we
are trying to root out fraud and waste in government spending.
It's one thing to cut taxes, which I very much
believe in. It's another thing to cut regulations, which also
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needs to be done. But in addition to doing those things,
there's this whole other area of cutting fraud and waste,
which is a misuse of taxpayer funds. And it doesn't
necessarily equate to a tax cut, but it can equal
government either paying off its debts and that's a better
use of the money being spent, or it could actually
be spent in an actual duty of government, like you know,
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paying people who have paid into Social Security. What they're
doing is a real thing the government should actually be doing.
I think it's right that Trump is assuring people that
all the things they're hearing about that getting cut just
really isn't true. Actually had an interesting conversation. I'm on
the State Board of Education now or presenting CD four.
When I was at the meeting in February, I've now
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had two official meetings, one of my fellow board members
came up to me to talk.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Afterwards.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
We had recognized a lot of teachers who had gotten awards,
some nationally recognized teachers. A lot of them had done
a really good job in Colorado schools, really being involved
with students, doing unique things to help them learn, gotten
really good results in their class. Well, these students are
supposed to be given a certain amount of money to
go to DC, and I think some of them get
awards and there's just a program.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
In DC for them.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
And so she was saying to me, She's like, well,
all the things where Trump is supposedly going to cut
the Department of Education, like people are just to pray
that these great teachers aren't going to get the money
they were promised to go to DC. And I told her,
I was like, Okay, there's a huge difference between what's
actually happening and actually being cut and the rhetoric surrounding it,
where the media and liberals in particular are trying to
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scare everyone and say all this money that you care about,
all these things you've been promised, you're just gonna wake
up tomorrow and you're not getting all the things that
you paid into. You're not getting all the things that
you were promised. And I told her, I'm like, this
is part of the problem right now, is there's a
lot of rhetoric being created trying to scare people. What
I didn't say is you yourself are scaring people and adding
to this, stop doing it. You're an elected official. Talk
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about facts, not rhetoric. I skipped to that part, but
the point remains that that is what's going on, and
I think that's not fair to the American people. It's like,
let's actually discuss as American people, if we believe these
things are fraud, if we believe they're waste, and if
they should be cut. Let's not claim that people are
losing what would be legitimate payments that they are owed
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or been promised. No one is actually discussing that other
than people who are inventing stories. So I think that's
an important point. Another thing, Caroline love It. I think
that's how you say her name. My daughter's debate coach.
I'm one of her coaches. But there's another debate coach.
He said that he told my daughter that she reminds
him of Caroline Caroline love It.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
So I was like, oh, right, that's actually a big compliment.
You should you should like that.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
But she spoke about DOGE recently and explained what kind
of authority it has.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
I think this is really important for people to.
Speaker 12 (33:28):
Know DOGE does not have statutory authority. We've been very
clear about that. Again, DOGE is advising these agencies. It's
ultimately up to the discretion of these secretaries to make
these hirings and these firings, and again everybody is working
as one team. You've seen some of the secretaries speak
out about the cuts that they have made and the
way that they are saving American tax payers dollars. Secretary
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Rubio talking about the USAID cuts as just one example.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
I think there's another area where people are out there
trying to scare people. Me the go dough just taking
government authority it doesn't have. Elon Musk is running the
government and saying no, like it's actually very clear that
what they are doing is taking no struxtory authority whatsoever
because they don't have it. You can't just grant someone's
statutory authority. A president actually can't do that. He hasn't done,
and he hasn't attempted to do it. Instead, they are
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doing the investigation that many of these agencies are not
equipped to do themselves, and they're handing them sort of
on a silver platter and saying, look, here's all the
waste and fraud in your agency?
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Would you like to cut some of this? What do
you think the American people want you to do?
Speaker 2 (34:29):
And so I do think it's more of a cohesive
team that it's coming together under the Trump administration. I mean,
have they even had a month. I don't think they have.
I think it's not even quite been a month in office,
and they're already investigating things for agencies, doing a lot
of the underground work for them to say, if we
want to clean this up, if we want to reform
it and actually serve the American people, here are the
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ways you can.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
You can reform your agency.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
And then some agencies I think that refuse to reform
and can't be reformed. Maybe she's just existed anymore. There's
there's something that also should happen. U's cut some federal agencies.
I'm Christy Burton Brown. You're on the Dan Kapla Show.
When we come back, we have plenty more to talk about.
Trey Goudie talking also about the fourth branch of governments
in an interesting way, something that should also we should
(35:14):
get rid of. You can call in over the break
eight five five four zero five eight two five five
or texture thoughts to Dan at five seven seven three
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