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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
Welcome to Dan Caplis Show.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
I'm Christy Burton Brown in for Dan tonight, Thanks for joining.
At five thirty pm tonight, there will be a vigil
for Charlie Kirk at CSU, one of the colleges he
was scheduled to speak at on his tour that was
going on when he was murdered. So we'll actually be
checking in at the beginning of next hour with a
KOA reporter who will tell us what it's like on
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the ground there, what to expect. You can also follow
for updates online and I think some people are going
to be airing it live as well, if that's something
you want to see or take part in. TPUSA announcing
They decided yesterday, but I think they announced it today
that Erica Kirk, Charlie Kirk's widow, would be taking over
as the CEO and chair of the board for Churning
(01:01):
Point USA.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Part of that letter says quote.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
All of us at turning Point USA have a special
role in carrying Charlie Kirk's bantle and completing his vision
of bringing us all closer to our Lord and fostering
a prosperous country for generations to come. As Charlie always said,
we have a country to save. We will not surrender
or neil before evil. We will carry on the attempt
to destroy Charlie's work will become our chance to make
it more powerful and enduring than ever before. And that's
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from a letter from tpusa's board announcing Erica Kirk as
the new CEO and chairman of the board. Lots of
discussion about free speech, hate speech, cancel culture and like
over the last few days some of the effects coming
out from Charlie Kirk's assassination, the most recent one of course,
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being Jimmy Kimmels absolutely ridiculous, not whatsoever funny comment on
his show. We'll be talking about that quite a bit tonight.
I'll play some clips different reactions from it. Many in
the media or on the left saying, oh my goodness,
this is the government forcing him out, with ABC and
Disney canceling his show or suspending it. I think is
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the word that's being used right now. We'll see what
the permanent effect of that is. Barack Obama even going
so far as to literally say, this is the government
doing it to him simply because the FCC chairman had
made a comment about them looking into some sort of
consequence for networks when these kind of things are allowed
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to air on their stations. But I think that if
you really look at the evidence, you really like what
went on. That's a huge stretch to say that the
government forced to ABC, Disney, Next Star, any of those
to suspend the Jimmy Kimmel show. It was another GOP
leader at the national level said that Kimmel instead was
a victim of the free market. I wouldn't call him
a victim at all, but I'd say it's definitely a
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consequence of the free market.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
When you can read the room and.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
You can't see what the response of people around the
nation is to a very violent act, the murder of
someone who's I think quite a bit more popular than
people expected, and who literally stood for free speech, sharing
his faith, sharing his convictions, but also letting people on
the other side of the aisle talk too and debate
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with him. I mean, you even had major sports teams
in the NFL and MLB recognize him during their games,
which is not actually all that typical if a figure
is seen as being solely on one side of the
political aisle, but when they stand for something much larger,
a very American value like our faith, our families, and
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free speech. I think this is why you see the big,
big reaction coming out of Charlie Kirk dying, and you
see the free market saying to people like Jimmy Kimble, no,
that's actually not okay to spread lies like that, that's
actually not okay, hey, to think you are being funny
and use it as an excuse to basically mock someone's assassination.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
And so these.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Networks, instead of listening to the typical voice inside the.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Liberal media, they're they're like, well, all right.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
I think we should probably listen to the majority of people,
like our viewers. As someone else said today, conservatives watch
TV too, and they're not going to be happy with
someone just blatantly lying like that to me.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Was saying on TV.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
It was the nature of the lie that it was
such a casual lie KBB and the implication of the lie,
which is because his theory was, and it was incorrect,
it was false, it was fake news.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Already known to be fault. Yeah, because the.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Shooter would have ostensibly been from the same political side
as Charlie, then so.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
What, he's dead, No big deal.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
He didn't even treat it with the humanity that you
would expect. Imagine if you will, had this happened during
the eighties with Johnny Carson, during the nineties with Jay Leno,
would they have been so cavalier and crass and referring
to this and go, hey, one of theirs did it,
So no big deal.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
I just can't. I can't even imagine David Letterman doing that.
Speaker 6 (05:09):
No.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
I mean, if you just look from a humanitarian perspective,
like as a human being, assassinations, murders, prevalent crime doesn't
really have a place in a comedy show, not unless
you're going to take a moment of seriousness and actually
discuss it for what it is.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
There's the meme KBB of we used to be a
proper country. But I remember, distinctly, I'm a bit older
than you, and I think even you remember this at
your age, that there was a time when everyone outside
of a very tiny lunatic fringe would come together at
a time like this and condemn an assassination, say, you
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know what, that's not right, there's no justification for it.
We hear it from like John Fetterman, But now he's
become kind of I think within his own party, the minority,
that we'll call it right out and.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
Say no, we can't have that here.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
How many lunatic TikTok videos, Instagram posts? Facebook? I dropped
a lot of people from Facebook, by the way, over
the last week on x Just this morbid, ghoulish response
to the assassination of a young man, a father, a husband,
no humanity whatsoever, no souls whatsoever. This is what's really
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got me creeped out about the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Christy, Right, No, I think some of those responses are
very very disturbing and indicative of the culture. And I'd say,
in many ways, what some of these young people are
taught in school or exposed to in school. Sometimes it
doesn't always come from the professors. Sometimes it comes from
peers that are around them.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
But in high.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
School, in college, I mean, I think people parents should
be very concerned about the kind of culture they may
be exposing their children to, because a lot of those
TikTok and other social media posts are from people that
age now on the flip side, I've also seen a
lot of really helpful things, I think on social media
and from what happens after Charlie Kirk was assassinated, you
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saw so many people I would say it's more people
in the middle rather than people on the left.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
People are like, I don't.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Really know where I am politically, like some of them
directly saying, hey, I heard really bad things about Charlie Kirk,
but since I saw this happen, I'm going to go
look into him.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
And they specifically said, wow.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
The narrative the left has pushed about him, that he's racist,
he's homophobic, that he's anti women, all these things aren't
true when you watch his videos in context, as in
not one statement. I mean, some people were even found
to be quoting statements where he was quoting someone and
responding to a bad statement, and so these people were saying, wow,
when I really watched the whole video, when I saw
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his response to people he did disagree with, for example,
gay people for example, he'd be like, hey, I don't
I'm a Christian, I don't agree with your lifestyle. But
I welcome you to the conservative movement. You should join us,
be part of us. I'm glad you're here. And I think,
you know, there were a lot of people who went
and looked him up after this happened and realized that
he was a different, different kind of persda than I
think was represented. And i'd say especially in his later years.
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I think early on there maybe were some clips of
him perhaps saying some things that I probably wouldn't have
ordered it that way or it's not.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Really how I talk.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
But he also started this when he was like seventeen
eighteen years old, and now him at thirty one. The
last few years, you know, he got married, he had kids.
I think he became even more grounded in how he
expressed his opinions, being a really model example for I
think young conservative people, and then also really granted in
his faith and sharing it.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
And that's another thing that I.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Saw all over social media is these same people kind
of in the middle saying, you know what, after watching
his videos and just being horrified by the way he
was murdered, I think I'm going to read my Bible,
I'm going to go to church.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
I've not seen that kind of result.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
From people being either killed, assassinated almost dissassinated like in
the case of President Trump, or other violence like that.
That's an uncommon response. And so I think as much
as there's horrifying responses from people on the far left,
there's also some really good, encouraging responses from especially young
people in the middle of the aisle. And I think
that is something that Erica Kirk, she leaves CPUSA forward,
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and so many other people I think will be able
to really capitalize on and find these people who are
searching for something and point them in the right direction.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
And this is.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
All a product of people that are doing their own research.
Like you just said in five, I'm going to find
out what Charlie Kirk is really out about. And when
people do that and dedicate the time and effort, then
they realize that Charlie was a good human. But the
problem is, Christy, a lot of people have cursory knowledge,
if that of Charlie, or they trust a Jimmy Kimmel
to tell them the truth.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
And I'm seeing all these posts.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
Stolic the shooter was a groper, he was far right,
he was maga, he was a gun lover. It wasn't
on the left, and there's these fake narratives out there
because the left wants to absolve themselves of any blame, shame,
fault responsibility in this when let's face it, a lot
of this stems back to rhetoric that.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
Has been beaten into the skulls of these.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
People on the left and the echo chambers that Charlie
Kirk was a fascist for a Nazi right exactly. And
when people believe that.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Right, then they think they should do something.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
They're going to act upon it.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Yeah, we'll talk a lot more about this on the show.
You also can call in three zero three seven one,
three eight two five five or texture thoughts to Dan
at five seven seven three nine. I'm Christy Burton Brown.
You're on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
And now back to the Dan Kamplas Show podcast.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
We've been talking about Charlie Kirk and the cancel lashead
of Jimmy Kimmel. I think that may be what our
caller wants to talk about. Ken from Pueblo, Welcome to
the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 7 (10:34):
Hi, I was just thinking that, you know, everything is
the government telling ABC or whoever it is, that they
have to fire him. I don't think that's even in
in this universe. No, Camel's show was already being.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Canceled, it was already losing ratings.
Speaker 7 (10:52):
Soever's in charge but perfect out to fire him and
save them money money.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Yeah No, I think it's a great pointing.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Yeah, and two people are acknowledging that actually that he
was already like going down in the ratings, he was
already losing viewership. I think it's just more convenient for
people to say, Oh, the big, bad, scary government came
in and ordered them to do it, and it's not
really accurate.
Speaker 7 (11:20):
Yeah, well, thank you for that. My point of view,
it was it wasn't the government, it was straight up capitalism.
He's costing us of millions of dollars a year or
a month. Let's let's just get rid of him now
that he's given us a perfect out.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Yeah. No, I think you're right ken him. No, we can't,
it's absolutely not.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
I mean, the TV station doesn't owe you any First
Amendment rights, only the government does.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
Such a great point. Christy, you know the law of this.
I know the broadcasting side of this.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
The FCC applies to over the air channels that can
be radio, that can be television, it's not, for instance,
a news network like CNN or Fox News. In this instance,
they have FCC compliant rules, regulations, laws, standards, et cetera.
And they an obligation to their shareholders, their audience. And
if two of their distributors, this wasn't just one, this
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was Next Star, it was Sinclair or saying, you know what,
We're done with this crap. We've been doing this for
ten years. It's white noise. At this point, he gets
terrible ratings, We're just not going to air the shows. Well,
as Ken just stated, that speaks volumes, and now Disney
ABC has to make a calculation.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
Is Jimmy Kimmel worth it?
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Well, he's not exactly Dave Chappelle, who drove about those
trying to cancel him on Netflix. You know the employees
of Netflix and Netflix the corporate the office has told
them to pound sand that Dave Chappelle makes a lot
more money for us than you do.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
And that's exactly right what Ken said. It is capitalism
at work.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
If Jimmy Kimmel got great ratings, that might be one
thing he doesn't. The government isn't punishing Jimmy Kimmel for
free speech. His employer's firing him. He can go start
a podcast. He's not getting prosecuted. You have a right
to free speech, you don't have a right to a
private sector job.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Exactly.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Well, Thanks Ryan, Thanks Ken, thanks for calling it all right.
I'm Christy Burton Brown. You're on the Dan Kapitlo Show.
You also can call an inserior thoughts three three seven, one,
three eight two five five or text them to Dan
at five seven, seven three nine. I'm actually gonna go
ahead and play you a clip of exactly what Jimmy Kimmel.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Said in case you don't live in this universe and
you missed it.
Speaker 8 (13:25):
We had some new lows over the weekend with the
Maggie Gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered
Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and
everything they can to score political points from it.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
That is what he said, literally, indicating the complete conspiracy
theory that has been debunked since pretty much the day
it was claimed that the kid who shot Charlie Kirk
was somehow on the same side. I mean, and Ryan,
I know you remember this. I don't recall which station
the person was on, but.
Speaker 9 (13:55):
They're like, oh, maybe it was one of his uh,
you know, the people on his side firing a shot
in celebration, Like that was the first accusation out there
that was just absolutely garbage.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
I'm pretty sure that person got suspended or fired as well.
And then it just continued this like slow boiling thread
of people saying, ooh, maybe he really was a Magas
supporter in disguise, maybe he's really conservative, Like no, you
don't assassinate someone you agree with, clearly not not what happens.
And so for Jimmy Kimmel to think that was funny
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in any way, And I actually don't think he presented
as a joke. I think he presented it as something
he actually wanted to claim and say, and I think
that is part of the reason that he got basically fired,
suspended as the word right now, but his show is
being taken off of the air, and I don't think.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
It's going to come back. Let's see, I'm gonna play
this other clip Steven Smith.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Basically it also talks about there's so many people are
responding to this and talking about it on air yesterday
and today, but here we go.
Speaker 10 (14:50):
The only thing that I would say as it pertains
to Jimmy Kimmel, was where was the joke? Because you're
a late night host and obviously that has a comedic
attachment attachment to it.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
Where was the joke?
Speaker 10 (15:00):
Obviously it wasn't anything funny about that exactly.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
And I think it's about time that more people point
that out and find that what the liberal media likes
to say is just.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Unacceptable, Like, no, that's not what we want to hear.
It's not what people want to hear.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
Tuning in and Steven A is so right there, and
it leads to the question that we must ask ourselves,
which is why So Jimmy Kimmel, all of that is canned.
It is written for him. He's got writers, he signs
off on the script and they introduced the bit, and
he leads with that that, hey, it wasn't one of ours,
it was one of theirs. Why lead with that? What
was the point and purpose of that? What was the
motivation of that?
Speaker 3 (15:33):
KBB Well, and I think it's to continue to spread
deception and lies about what's actually happening, which I find
very unfortunate. Like whenever it is a white man or
a white young.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Man who shoots up at school.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
The media, you know all about you know, his gender,
his race, his beliefs, if he's in neo Nazi, they
talk about that, and I think you should say, what
kind of person is committing these kinds of mass shootings
and crimes?
Speaker 2 (15:57):
I absolutely think that.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
But anytime it's, you know, someone associated with a transgender movement,
and this shooter had a transgender partner, they try and
cover it. They try and well, maybe that's really not
who it was, maybe that's really not why they did it.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
It's like, if we want.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
To be honest about who is committing some of the
violent crime, mass shootings, assassinations in the US, we need
to talk about who it actually is, regardless of which
side of the aisle they are on, who they are.
But when it happens to be anyone associated with transgender people,
they try and cover it and hide it and act
like it's not real. And I think that is a
giant problem. We have some more callers calling in, so
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I'm gonna go to the phone line. So about two
minutes until the next break, So, David, welcome to the
Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 11 (16:39):
Thank BB, thank you for the time.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Yeah, the mainstream.
Speaker 11 (16:46):
Media, legacy media, we need to do for them what
they've done to us. Not not physically, but you basically
need to not support them. You know, I'm glad that
the left has come out there. They want to cat
Disney now and people are possibly regarding right Kimmel, you know,
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people speaking in Congress, blah blah blah. It's on a
different talk show earlier today. Long story short. They asked
when did this start?
Speaker 2 (17:17):
I say started about.
Speaker 11 (17:18):
Ten eleven years ago. I wonder what coincided then with
the endless attacks of.
Speaker 7 (17:23):
People call them names.
Speaker 11 (17:27):
So Kimmel has no right, but it's a bigger problem.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
I would agree with you.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
I think when we see this on you know, some
of the biggest hosts or reporters saying these kinds of things,
it is a symptom of the culture and what is
acceptable and what they think their audience is going to
be okay with. And then I'm just happy to see
that the audience actually, you know, there's a blowback in
this case, and the free market I think did its
work and stations were like, yeah, this is not what
our viewers want to see, and they shut it down.
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But you're so right, David, it is a bigger problem
than just the people on to me.
Speaker 11 (18:00):
Christy, I guess the action needs to be we have
to take action as all these pop ships talk talk
talk all.
Speaker 12 (18:07):
Day long and ask question.
Speaker 11 (18:10):
A different question is regarding the state of Colorado.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Yeah, yes, so I actually have to take a break.
It's you're gonna get the music star play right now.
If you want to stay on for the break or
you want to call back, we can definitely talk about Colorado.
Uh so let's do that. David, all right, I'm Christy
Verton Brown. You're on the Dan Kapla Show. We do
have people on the phone lines, but you also can
call in three oh three seven one three eight, two
five five.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Getting a lot of texts as well.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Send your thoughts on Jimmy Kimmel, Charlie Kirk, free cbe
Chase speech, all those things to five seven, seven, three nine.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Start it with Dan here on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
And you can indeed call in three oh three seven,
one three eight.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Two five five.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
I'm gonna get to some text questions after I finish
talking to our callers. Both of them were very patient
to wait through the break, so David, you're back on
the Dan Kapla show.
Speaker 13 (19:08):
So Christy regarding Colorado, Yeah, I want to touch on
our elections in the past thirteen years we've had but
they considered the gold standard.
Speaker 11 (19:19):
Do you believe it's.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
The gold standard with Jenna Grizsold running the elections?
Speaker 3 (19:23):
No, I do not, and I think you know, we've
seen that through multiple mistakes, mistakes that she's made, you know,
releasing passwords where people could get them online, which of
course they claim was an accident. But no, I don't
think with her in charge, it's the gold standard at all.
Speaker 11 (19:40):
And I don't think it's just her. It's deeper than that.
So just like President Trump is encouraged and a lot
of people are running from this and we can't run
in stay to color we need to do something. No machines,
no mail in ballots, and we need to declayers long overdue.
Our elections are extremely important. We should make it a holiday,
(20:02):
a national holiday on election day, one day voting. And
you know, if you look back at the history for
all the years we've been doing mail in balloty, I
think it's fine. There's a disgusting trend of the same
number of people voting and they want to gas likeness
and yes, d they were talking briefly about the independence.
(20:25):
They always vote sixty forty well, I think, Christy, you
know why they vote sixty forty Well, they're not voting.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
And so I'll give you a few thoughts on this because,
as you may know, I was the state chairman of
the Republican Party, and so I think there's a few
thoughts here. First, absolutely, I agree election day should be
a holiday, get people out to vote, hundred percent agree.
I also I prefer in person voting too. I think
the most responsible people show up and vote, the ones
who've done their research, the ones who really know what
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they want to vote for.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
So I like that you have to actually put in
work if you're going to go vote, show up in person.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
I still think absentee voting should be a thing because
some people are sick, some people out of the country,
and you shouldn't lose your right to vote.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
I think part of the problem was changing from mail in.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
Right exactly.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Problem yeah no, and most people don't have a problem
with that, but probably with mail in voting and changing
it in Colorado is insanely popular and because it was
passed on the ballot, you would also have to reverse
logistachers never get to reverse it.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
You'd have to reverse it on the ballot. Is insanely popular.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Unfortunately, too many people like their convenience more than they.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Like election security.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
So I think we have to deal with the system
we have and say how do we make it more secure,
rather than actually thinking we're going to persuade people to
not do mail in voting in Colorado, it is too popular.
I've seen polling. I don't think we're getting rid of it.
Speaker 11 (21:44):
I actually can with twenty twenty one and the county. Yeah,
so I understand the convenience of people, but also saw.
Speaker 13 (21:57):
Corrupt.
Speaker 12 (21:58):
I'm not pointing anyone out, just saying in general. So
I think I, like you said, you made a good
point for regarding it. We voted for it supposedly and
on the ballot, but it's.
Speaker 11 (22:10):
Convenient, but we got we got to get rid of
fraudule voting going on, because there are people that are
there casting ballots for through that machine that don't actually
cast those.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Out well, you know, and yeah, and David, you bring
up a lot of great points. I'm gonna have to
go to another caller in just a second. But I
do I appreciate you calling in, and I do want
to say I think there absolutely are ways that we
can make the system more secure. For example, again Jenna
Griswold sending out like voter registration cards to people who
aren't even in the country, like as citizens, and then oh, whoops,
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now we got to pull that back and tell them
they can't vote. Like there's just too much in the
system that people don't trust that could absolutely be fixed.
So thank you for bringing more attention to David. Appreciate
you calling in. All right, I'm going to go to
Ryan from Littleton. Thank you for waiting, and welcome to
the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 14 (22:59):
Thanks. I'm going to turn to get to my point
as quickly as possible here, but I just want to
kind of paint a little picture here that and you've
seen it. Everybody's seen it. You know, we've been we've
been doing this now for the last ten years that
the left has been extremely effective and calling their political
opponents rivals, I mean Nazis, you know, be humanizing their rivals.
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And you know, I think something really just kind of
changed after this assassination of Charlie Kirk, and that is
you know, not even the gunman himself, but the outright
jubilant celebration that we've seen from so many people on
the left. I mean, for anybody who thought that maybe
it was localized or that Democrats didn't really feel that
(23:47):
way in large numbers, I think you're wrong. There's probably
a lot of people that were celebrating in private and
just never posted anything stupid on social media.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
But you know, it comes.
Speaker 14 (23:59):
Down to me at this point, I know where I
stand with these people, and they would like to see
the same for me, because I'll never subscribe to the
leftist narrative. I will always oppose it to my dying day,
and so for that reason, I'm sorry, but I fully
want McCarthy is in two point zero. You don't get
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to intimidate us and try to make us scared. And
a lot of leftists are at this time are saying
we need Republicans to be scared, so they're too scared
to speak in public, there's too scared to come to
our universities, and my mind, that is the literal definition
of terrorism. So with that said, hey, it's the same
people we're going to be going after this. The first
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McCarthys in days. It may not have been necessarily ethical
in some people's eyes, but in my mind, we have
to have a clear winner come out of this, and
I supported one hundred percent. I want doors kicked down.
I am not playing. That's where I'm at.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Well, and Ryan, thanks for sharing your perspective.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
I think you know what this has done is it
has taken a lot of regular people who happen to
be conservative and it has scared them because if you
watch Charlie Kirk's videos, you saw that he's not this
caricature the left has.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Painted of him.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
He is a normal guy with a family who talked
about normal conservative positions and they murdered him for it.
And so I do think I've heard a lot of
people saying that at least part of what you're saying,
not necessarily the McCarthy ism part, but just the part about, hey,
they're killing people who believe exactly like me, and that's
not okay. We've got to do something to change it.
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And I think it is. You know, you can always
talk about the political solutions or what can potentially happen
over there, but I also think you have to look at, like,
on an issue like this, when it is so deep
in the culture. Charlie Kirk actually said something that I
think is interesting. He said, spiritual problems manifest themselves into
cultural problems that then become political problems.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
And so I think, you know, I love.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Talk about politics, I work in politics, but will you
trace it back like there are huge cultural issues, huge
spiritual issues that I think our nation has to contend
with if we're really going to solve this. So thanks
Ryan for calling in and sharing your thoughts. All right,
you're on the Dan Kapla show. I'm Christy Burton Brown.
You also can call in three zero three seven one
three eight two five five or text your thoughts to
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five seven seven three nine.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
I want to get to a couple of questions.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
I got over text someone asking if we would please
talk about the actual ratings of the main late night
talk shows. Everyone's referencing it but not giving any actual numbers.
And this is of course, goes to Jimmy Kimmel being suspended,
taken off.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
The air, and a caller earlier said, I don't buy that.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
This was because of FCC pushing on it. I don't
buy this with government interference. His ratings were already dropping
the networks wanted an excuse to get him off the
air because he wasn't doing well well.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
I'll read something from the New York Post. Here. Here's
what they say, and this is a quote.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Jimmy Kimmel's late night show was bleeding viewers before Disney
owned ABC pulled the plug and suspended him for his
comments on Charlie Kirk's assassination. Nielsen data showed sharp summer
declines in a year long slide that leaves him trailing
late night rivals such as Fox News Greg Gutfield and
CP star Kevin or Sorry, Stephen Colbert. According to monthly
Nielsen figures, Jimmy Kimmel Live dropped to just one point
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one million total voter viewers in August twenty twenty five,
down forty three percent from January's one point nine to
five million. His August household rating of zero point three
five marked the weakest showing of the year. So little
information on Yes, absolutely that's true. His ratings were tanking
before this, and then I think the networks just saw
like this kind of blatant lies, like he wasn't joking,
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He wasn't, you know, you know, hinting at something that
maybe was a fact. It was a proven false lie
that he told. And so I think the network saw
that wasn't gonna be popular among people. And I'll close
with this before going to a break. Another Textra tried
to explain his joke and said, not everybody's going to
agree with joke is funny, and.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Sometimes jokes bomb.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Yeah, sometimes they do bomb, and they get you kicked
off the air, as they should. So Chrissy Burton Brown,
you're on the Dan Kaplis Show. We'll keep talking when
we come back.
Speaker 5 (28:03):
And now back to the Dan Kamplass Show podcast.
Speaker 6 (28:12):
We're active them about fifteen campuses and we're growing very
very quickly. And keep in mind this is not just
a flash and the PAN movement. We're going to become
an institution to give them the power and the confidence
to stand.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
Up and let their voice be heard.
Speaker 6 (28:23):
I started this organization when I was eighteen years old.
I decided not to go to college. I didn't get
in my dream school, which was the United Military Academy
at West Point. I have this idea to galvanize and
motivate the future youth of this country around a core
set of ideas, not just political parties. Or politicians, and
the ideas are really America is the greatest country in
the history of the world. Constitution is the greatest political
document ever written in free enterprise, the most sured way
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to let people out of poverty and create prosperity for all.
Those are the three big ideas, and I think that's
something that can win. We as Christians are to go
into the public arena to correct error with truth. So
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I go to college campuses and there's a lot of error.
We're all sinners, we are all living error. I'm far
more interested in what God wants of me than what
I want from God.
Speaker 15 (29:14):
I have to say this without getting emotional, but I'm
very proud of my husband, and I know many of
you are too. You have worked so hard, and I
know a lot of you have seen. Obviously, his video
is on TikTok and all the stuff he does on campus,
but no one gets to see him from my angle
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except for myself and our children.
Speaker 11 (29:42):
Of all.
Speaker 15 (29:45):
And the sacrifice is that he made this year.
Speaker 7 (29:50):
He's amazing.
Speaker 6 (29:51):
I'm very bladed, and I would not have been able
to do any of it without Erica.
Speaker 5 (29:55):
And that's the real truth. I'll tell you what.
Speaker 6 (29:59):
You are here as a grassroots response to the top
down revolution happening in this country. I want our Turning
Point USA students to receive around of applause. These are
the freedom fighters of America.
Speaker 7 (30:14):
And the media said the Turning Point could never run
a ground game.
Speaker 5 (30:17):
They weren't experienced, They didn't know Charlie Ray, this.
Speaker 6 (30:21):
Is the greatest generational realignment since Woodstock. This generation is
the most conservative generation that we have seen and well
over fifty years, and the numbers show it. What young
people especially are screaming at is they say, give me
a structure that I can live my life by, and
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especially with young men, more challenging of them, more saying
you know what, honestly.
Speaker 7 (30:46):
I'm not going to talk down to you.
Speaker 6 (30:47):
Stop being a boy and become a man.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
You want to learn what that means.
Speaker 6 (30:51):
Come the church and I'll tell you what it means
to become a man, because we have the greatest story
ever told. What can I do to save the country?
You answer that question every sing because you are doing
the work to save this beautiful republic. You are doing
something that is bigger than you.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
If everything completely goes away, how do you want to
be remembered?
Speaker 5 (31:14):
I want to be remembered for courage from my faith.
That would be the most important thing. The most important
thing is my faith, my liv.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
That is the tribute from Turning Point USA that they
put out today about Charlie Kirk, and I think it's
pretty cool that that is one of the main clips
being constantly played about him, is that he wants to.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Be remembered for courage for his faith.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
And I think I mentioned this to another caller who
called in in the last break. This is a quote
from Charlie Kirk saying spiritual problems manifest into cultural problems
that then become political problems. And I think this is
something he talked about a lot more in his last years,
probably the last I want to say, around three years
or so. He talked so much about, Yes, focus on
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the political things. It got to fight for free speech,
he wanted to get Donald Trump elected, close the border,
do all these common sense policies or things that he
believe would advance the nation politically, and so many of
us agreed, of course, But let's trace it back. Let's
take several steps back and say, Okay, what are we
also doing about reforming and changing the culture and building
the family and helping young people understand that having a
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family and raising your kids and staying married is one
of the best things you can do to raise up
at the next good generation, and then take it back
even further and say, Okay, how do we counter these
spiritual problems that we certainly see all over Colorado is
one of the least churched states in the nation, where
where people just don't understand their identity anymore. They don't
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know who created them and why they're here and what
their purpose is. And when you have a group of people,
a generation that is indoctrinated and especially college by a
lot of liberal professors who encourage.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Them that they have no identity, that they were not.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Created by a higher power, and that you know, they
can create any reason they want, a selfish reason to
be here. They can manufacture their own identity. They lack meaning,
they lack purpose, and I do think that is one
of the reasons we see a prevalence toward violence in
our society among young people is they don't know why
they're here or what they're doing here. And I think
this is something that if you listen to a lot
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of Charlie Kirk's messaging he fought against, and he tried
to bring that meaning, that spiritual rootedness into people's lives.
And I think that's just really something that we do
need to bring back if we really want to reform
America and the culture of violence that's going on so
much is it is deeper than just political answers.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
And I say this as someone who absolutely love politics
and works in it every day.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
But the culture and the spiritual problems that our nation
has absolutely needs to be addressed as well. I think
another point that it seems like Glenn Beck would agree with,
since he gave the golden microphone into Charlie Kirk's spot
after he died. The question some people are asking is
will Charlie Kirk end up being like the Russia Limbos
of this generation? So many people, I would say closer
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to my age, including Charlie Kirk himself, listened to Rush
Limbaugh all the time, learned about politics, learned what to do.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
We're inspired to go out and make a difference.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
And I think so many people in just a little
bit older than my kids, high school, college age kids
right now, find that same inspiration in Charlie Kirk. I
was actually pleasantly surprised to hear I coach debate. Now
I'm the head coach for a debate team and I
have a new assistant coach this year. I was the
assistant coach last year. He's from our club. He won
second and nationals himself last year, so really, really good debater.
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We were talking about Charlie Kirk and he said, in
my senior year of high school, I blocked all videos
on my YouTube account except for Charlie Kirk. That is
all I listened to. And he's the one that inspired
me to get out here learn how to communicate so
that I could share my.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Beliefs real quick.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
We need that if Rush Limbaugh had only lived as
long as Charlie Cook Kirk at thirty one, he would
have perished in nineteen eighty two.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
Oh my goodness, before I was even born. That's crazy.
All right, you're on the Dan Kaploch Show on Christy
Burton Brown.
Speaker 14 (34:59):
We come back.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
We're going to talk to the ko reported near Bender
about the Charlie Kirk CD vidil in four call